Anyone who thinks this film is too mature for kids must not have seen Hocus Pocus reference 'virgins' about 100x, and ritual killing. Society has become so desensitized, yet US kids movies have gotten infantalized in the last 20 years to an alarming degree. It's weird!
Times were different back then when no one had to complain about literally EVERYTHING to the point of killing any hope of an IP remaining in the limelight
@@Cruddy129 Yeah, social media definitely has its downside. This movie doesn't even push the boundary though. Oh no, she drew abs on a cartoon, the horror! Actual 13 year olds would do a lot worse. 🤣 Anyway, I'm glad this movie wasn't afraid to take a step away from the status quo. I miss stuff like this, it reminded me a bit of the 90s movie Now and Then.
I mean they didn't linger on those moments that long, if anything you look at this film and they pause on periods, pads, and unnecessary emotional moments that drag the film. Hocus Pocus had the context that witches did dark magic so no shit about the virgin dark aspect its to build suspense at whats at stake which it did a better job than this movie failed miserably at. What was at stake in this movie? I'm being serious unless there is an example of an accident that shows what happens when the red panda isn't sated there just isn't enough for me to give frankly a damn about.
There's also been a lot of criticism of this film from pearl-clutching parents who are scandalized that a movie about a 13 year old girl includes topics that actual 13 year old girls deal with.
All the hate I saw was adults complaining about how this film covers the topic of puberty and people thought that was inappropriate… what??? It’s puberty, kids really need to know that stuff, this is the dumbest reason to complain. I mean, I guess parents have the right to completely shelter their children. IMO puberty should never be seen as inappropriate, I got mine when I was 9 and I thought I was dying and I thought there was something wrong with me, that’s exactly why this film is important. I don’t want anyone to hide in their room and cry for hours or feel like they’re feeling gross ways like I did. I felt ugly and I hated my body I thought all eyes were on me and I felt absolutely disgusted with myself. Because no one ever told me that everything I was going through was normal. Children should never feel that way.
@Aderyn I haven't seen this film yet, but given what I keep hearing I stupidly thought Western animation had finally started making content aimed primarily at teens... Then I remembered I live in America where such content is frowned upon regardless of political affiliation or belief system...
@@DemonicRemption it’s like that here in the UK too. We’re just so judgmental and look for why something’s bad instead of what makes it good. It makes me so sad to see people complain about what makes this film so special.
Something interesting I noticed with the two latest movies by Disney and Pixar(Encanto & Turning Red) is that they both deal with intergenerational trauma. They do it in different ways and are surrounded by different cultures, but they do it well and in a way that doesn't take away from the surface level plot that kids will enjoy.
I loved this movie. I found myself laughing out loud which is RARE for me during a film. It was charming as well. People are just miserable. No reason for this film to receive hate.
@@Mr.Gizzmo i don't think we watched the same movie since that literally wasn't the point at all. it was about puberty and embracing yourself as who you are instead of acting as another person and being miserable - as well as overcoming generational trauma.
Some people just don't wanna admit that this is what early teenagers do. As a 14 year old, I relate a lot with this film. I gotta admit, I was unsure about this film when I first saw the trailer but then when I watched it, I love it! It has everything about growing up and stuff, especially relationships changing with parents. It almost made me teard up because it reminded me of me and my mom, especially the ending.
i love how people are trying to pretend that Pixar has never experimented with animation. whether is be art style or technical stuff. If Pixar kept doing the same thing over and over again. im sure people would complain about that as well.
Just like in The Incredibles You save someone's life, you'll get sued by stupid people If you don't, you will be called heartless It really never is a win-lose situation, always a lose-lose situation
Right! Most of their stories before the mid-2010s centered non-human characters, and when human characters were the focus, they’re often more stylized than attempting hyperrealism
I think a lot of people didnt like the fact it talked about periods even know they are normal. they also say it's too sexual to be in a PG film. it's not.
Honestly, as a guy, I thought that was hilarious. I don't see how it's "sexual". The only parts of the movie I didn't like were some of the cringe worthy, boy crazy moments
Like honestly, if it shows up more that would be good because it would make girls who enter teenage years a lot more comfortable. It is DEFINITELY a good thing.
people: Pixar just makes the same movies, get something diferent Pixar: *makes onward (another underated gem btw) and turning red* people: ew thats not you pixar:
That so true and Disney doesn’t get hate on ANY Movies! Pixar deserves more respect then Disney. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had an augment with Disney themselves for not being respected equally
I really enjoyed this movie, since I could really emphasise with the character and the experiences they went through. It was very fun and enjoyable and I felt so much 2nd hand embarrassment.
Smarty pants would probably agree because he's seen miraculous ladybug and most likely some of the scenes in the show that make you wanna flee, it legit triggers your fight or flight mode
Its basically how the average Chinese citizen thinks they can do whatever they want yet they look brainwashed because of their government being a tiger parent by watching their every action and over dramatizing aspects they don't like.
Hate? What hate? I’m a guy and I could relate with this film better than any other animated film out there. Growing up in 2003, this film nailed that era especially with the attitude and boy bands. Also the animation for Turning Red is top notch and completely different compared to other Pixar films. I’ve never laughed so hard at a cartoon in my life.
@@Adriloves03 I honestly couldn't make it past the first 20 minutes or so- when they started using the red panda to make money for their tickets. Admittedly, I'm a guy, so I can't relate to the main character, but I also feel like the Dad was just wallpaper up to that point. Again, that fits the theme (mother-daughter conflict) but it was just a miss for me.
I can't help but feel like the art style criticism boils down to 'the girls look like actual 13 year olds and are hard to sexualize'. Other crit I've seen is just blatant racism (complaining about seeing hijabi in background characters? A realistically diverse friend group is pandering??) Turning Red was a refreshing change of pace and I dig the fond accuracy of our burgeoning cringe years during the early 2000's. And yea, I am absolutely getting gutpunched with nostalgia for the playlists they put out for each of the girls on Spotify! On top of that, this film was way better Asian representation than say Raya was, and it didn't feel like it was done as a Disney checklist either. A genuine look at Asian diaspora generational struggles, imagine that.
@@contentm3893 it's like when they advertised 'first gay Disney character' for BatB live action or 'First SE Asian princess' for Raya when the representation was vague and surface-level at best, but they still hype it up despite half-assing just to say they did something progressive
the way people are describing the diversity of the film as “pandering” bugs me so much. i looked at mei’s friend group and saw my friend group in middle school. i was pretty much one of the only white kids, my best friends were filipino, chinese, indian, japanese, black, etc. and i was a jewish kid like miriam! i guess it depends where you live, but mei’s friend group definitely isn’t unrealistic, especially for being set in toronto
@@contentm3893 Was Luca, another Pixar movie, art style basic and not very good? Turning Red and Luca have effectively the same animation and art style, yet I don't see people bitching about that.
@@contentm3893 what do you want, a hyper realistic CARTOON movie? It’s still a Pixar movie at the end of day and it’s supposed to be cartoony. Just cause it’s targeted towards tweens and teens doesn’t mean it should be the most realistic looking movie you could ever watch.
@@contentm3893 Brave and Turning Red are completely different movies. They don’t have to keep the same look from one movie to another. The themes of the two movies are nothing similar either, so comparing the two art styles is ridiculous. Times change and as long as people like you exist, studio’s will hesitate to expand and experiment with different things just to please nostalgia-nazi’s
The hate feels way overblown, I thought the goofy action fit well with the 13 year old in the 2000s storytelling. The animation style especially in the face reminded me of Aardman animations, and I think that style helped it feel more childlike. The only thing I wished they had elaborated on was why the mother's panda was kaiju sized.
I've seen some theories that the size of the panda is proportional to the amount of suppressed emotions // bottled up feelings she never addressed in a healthy way
The only thing that i didnt like about this film came from my own second hand embarrassment. Like sitting their watching Ming go embarrassing her child by airing her personal journal and being an absolute helicopter was hard to watch.
tbh I think this is a valid reason to personally dislike the film regardless of what one thinks of its quality. Sometimes good things can be hard to watch.
Easy to answer that question: There's a trend in media for males having a gross distaste for anything centering female narratives (The character designs were pretty close to Luca so I have no idea why someone would be confused by that)
@@Slipperyslab you still give no examples of what people say and the platforms they are on. There is clearly more people talking about "the hate" than they are actually people hating
"A story about teenage girls? Which mentions periods?! Good lord, it's the end of the world." Yes, many critics have a nice layer of misogyny and it's showing.... I loved turning red, though I'm not sure I was ready for the way Disney decided to focus on intergenerational trauma in the last couple of months......
Reason: Karen parents, critic incorrectly calling this movie “horny” Idiots thinking the movie is problematic, and “grooming” children, and to “destroy the nuclear family” Those quotes are actual quotes from people, and of course people are acting like the message is to be rebellious and “the movie is trying to teach kids that being rebellious is cool” < this quote isn’t entirely accurate, but it gets the same idea The real message is more about kids growing up, and needing their parents less, and that parents don’t always know better, even if they care about you(and they do)
A lot of moms seem to fail to see the aspect that the movie is also about a mother trying to protect her child but failing pretty badly. Seen a lot of mom comments saying they think the movie is teaching kids to be rebellious because of a boy band. This isn't the case because if you think your child is gonna get money by who knows how and sneak out to a concert you're probably doing something wrong as a parent. Other points I've seen complaining about is the periods talk as if that's the whole movie? It's a natural thing as is puberty in general. The movie isn't your educational video you watch in school, it portrays a moment where a mother sort of overreacts, caringly, to the fact that her daughter may have gotten her period. Some people think it's disgusting this was even mentioned in the movie but what other options is there for a mother to react that way? Probably none.
I can see the validity of the complaints. These kids are 13 and look like literal kids. It's telling that the other mothers largely put limits on their kids, too, so the whole "you can't go to the concert" is not an unreasonable boundary to set. They are too young to go to a concert without parental or adult supervision (and it would be unreasonable to force the parents to go along, given the ticket costs), and yet in the end, parental protection is considered bad.
@@demonkitty_toebeans I don't know about that. What if the kids *don't* learn how to lie effectively? It's entirely possible if you are too strict on your kids, they will be obedient, but won't know how to do anything for themselves or even want anything for themselves. Not that it's better, but I don't think every child of a controlling parent learns to lie to get away from them.
@@nangbaby what it means is if you restrict your kids too much they will end up doing the things you don't want without telling you, my mom did. You are looking into it to deep
I loved it so so much. Like this was it. This film got what it was like to be a 13 year old girl. And it was so much fun and so cute and hilarious that I genuinely cannot understand why other people straight up hate it but I’ve never been much of a movie critic in the first place.
@@gavinvanvalkenburg8210 speak for yourself. Your teenage experience is not universal and just because you don’t relate doesn’t make it a bad movie. I’d make the distinction that it’s not ‘basic’ rather a simple lighthearted movie. Edit: wrong your
I think the movie was amazing. At first I thought the art style might not be for me, but when it’s actually animated and not just odd stills, it looks pretty great. It had good characters, humor, and story. And I won’t even lie, the ending honestly hit me and had me crying. It’s not for everyone, sure, but it’s still a great movie.
I ended up loving this film so much more than I had anticipated. One of the biggest criticisms I keep seeing is that it is not appropriate for children because of references to menstruation, rebellion against parents, etc. They've missed one of the film's strongest messages that was aimed at them and not their kids, that children are not possessions for their parents to mold and shape as they see fit. Parents certainly need to serve as guides and protectors but they also need to encourage and support their children; otherwise you become a monster. I've yet to see anyone explain to me how Encanto is perfectly fine (Abuela's harsh expectations for her family literally destroys their home) but Turning Red (Ming Lee's strict insistence on who her daughter is leads to her becoming a Kaiju and wrecking Toronto) isn't?
Its funny how people will complain about companies making sequels and remakes of older movies and want them to start making original stories again. Then companies do make original stories and those same people start complaining.
I adored this movie! I'm a white cis hetero guy too! But I've lived in Asia now for like 15 years, and teach middle school students with these sorts of parents and expectations and cultural influence and this movie was SO DEAD ON. I saw all my students represented and that made me love it. I also laughed out loud until I peed a little. I also had friends growing up who were children of first gen immigrants and saw these struggles from that angle as well. Pixar has made my favorite movies in my life, and this one topped them all. I love that the parents and mom weren't shown as tyrants, but given nuance and shown to act out of a place of love. It's so easy to go overboard with the Tiger Mother trope, but I thought they did it very well here.
I really liked the movie. I felt like it capture the awkwardness of being a preteen. In my opinion I feel like people tend to hate things market to teenage girl.
I thought this movie was pretty alright. I just don't really get how people are getting the message wrong. Like it's not that rebelling against your parents is a good thing, and that you shouldn't listen to them. The message is that parents need to loosen the reigns a little. Hell, if Mei's mother WASN'T a tiger mom, Mei wouldn't be rebelling in the first place. The other message being that you should embrace all parts of yourself, ie: Mai finally being honest with her mother.
Exactly, if you want I might get some quotes from a video from a guy who doesn’t deserve his channel, he said the movie is to “destroy the nuclear family” and people are saying it’s propaganda to give them more power and control, and the comment section said “it’s all downhill from here”
rebellion can happen regardless of how the child is parented, it isn't unheard of for children raised in overly permissive households to crave boundaries and stability, there are people who become more conservative/traditional in retaliation to how they were raised. Every kid is different.
@@mirsolis4992 It kind of has everything to do with how they were raised? If you allow your kid to try new things AND still support them/have boundaries then they wouldn't feel the need to rebel. Besides, everyone I've known personally who started rebelling against their parents had parents who were either exactly like Mei's mother, or were the type who were more interested in being their kid's friend. But even then the type of rebellion was a lot different. The ones with strict parents tended to be the type to sneak out, drink, and not do their schoolwork. They also tended to be the types who because they were never allowed to actually be responsible for themselves, were irresponsible as hell. Ie: they types who couldn't manage their money. Also they tended to not really know how to think for themselves because they never got the chance to, and they tended to be pretty selfish. The kids with parents who had no rules also grew up to be irresponsible and did a lot of the stuff kids with tiger parents did, but there was also the added fact that they tended to just be massive assholes who didn't really care about anything in their life, and had no semblance of what they wanted to do with their life, as if they just didn't have any hobbies.
@@bluebird1914 Now drinking underaged, sneaking out after curfew and truancy is just pointless, strict parent or not. Everything Mei has done has had a point
I enjoyed it! I loved this one and Luca - they're actually now some of my favourites. Then again, I really enjoy the 'slow' cinema moments in animation too, films that don't necessarily have much of a villain or billions of plot strings (Kiki's delivery service for eg has no villain - just a coming of age, sweet movie). And I guess with these stories being less about overcoming a villain, and more introspective, they work well for that light-hearted 'feel good' movie style. Pixar are making films about kids just being kids, as flawed as they can be. And, it's wonderful to see.
exactly. when luca came out i used to get furious when people wouldnt stop complaining saying it was bad because it had no plot and nothing happened, and a movie about a kid wanting a vespa wasnt worth the time. i mean seriously???? thats just stupid
Watching this film does somewhat remind me of myself when i was younger dealing with strict parents and being a cringy kid. The story was pretty simple and I do like the animation i can get it why people don’t like it but it is what it is.
I find it interesting that this new stylistic choice wasn't a problem when they used it on Luca. Also, it's frustrating to know that people were all about a certain "Pixar" style now, after 25 years of knowing that 75% of the reason I eat these things up is because they're the only movie studio that actively tries to push for original stories. Sure, there are sequels, but they're all follow up to films with some of the most unique stories out there. Bonus they're absolutely gorgeous to look at, no mater where they decide to go visually.
From what I’ve heard, a lot of people are upset that this is advertised as a “kids” movie…When I hear “coming of age film” I think of a young teen. I’ve been reading a lot about how there are scenes that are a little much for young kids, and make the parents uncomfortable.
Meanwhile in my country the most popular animated movies literally features murders, drugs, attempted killings by actual ways used IRL, and the main character locked up in a mental asylum just before the third act. And lots and lots of swearing and inuendos. And the kids here love it, only the few Karens here have issues with it. Turning Red is really tame by comparison though it does almost feel like it could be from here with its language and casual mentioning of stuff like periods, crushes, or implied hormones and desires. I'm really glad that Pixar actually tries normalising these topics in this movie!
@@drdewott9154 right like focus on that, give that a bunch of rotten tomatoes instead of a movie about something educating because 'thats inappropriate for my child' ☠️
i loved this movie! but i think a lot of those who criticize it as you mentioned in the video is also due to the fact that pixar's previous movies were usually non-humans given humanization. those deliberate choices allowed general audiences to relate to aspects of the films bc the films themselves were casting wider nets. so when a movie that's focusing on an unapologetically 13 year old girl in the early 2000s who comes from a family of color, suddenly all the white audience members are "disconnected" from the film and thus mentally disengage with the story. it really shows a lot about their privilege of being considered the "default" in cinema (like casting white actors or designing white characters), so the moment a big animation studio creates a movie with a specific audience in mind, suddenly it's "a bad movie." and that's really unfair for the team behind this movie, bc even if i can't "see myself" in this film, i felt the movie had strong enough characters for me to empathize with them and desiring to see how their story ended. (oof sorry for the long comment)
@@insertunoroginalnamehere6189 (technically none of encanto's characters are White, they just have varying skin tones from Light to Dark) i mean yes, but also encanto isn't Pixar, encanto is Disney. Disney has had plenty of human protagonist films in the past, as opposed to Pixar having more non-human protags. as the video here mentioned, there seems to be this higher expectation from Pixar, but if this movie was produced by any other studio people would say "wow, this movie is great for a [insert studio] movie!"
It gave me a lot of Ghibli Studio vibe, it's why I enjoyed it. There have been a lot of coming-of age-movies in those films but not many talks about actually ''growing up'' and touching the subject of puberty. It is a good way to bring out their confidence in a fun way.
Let me suggest you watch Only Yesterday by the other genius man at Studio Ghibli, Isao Takahata. The main character is a woman close to her 30s who remembers moments of her puberty and there is a period-panic moment. It was released in... 1991
There should not be any elitism from a fandom who is so gung ho for a studio that made Cars. Yes, Pixar has some incredible work under their belt, but I’m totally on board for Pixar utilizing different art styles.
While I love the art style of Turning Red, I can understand why *some* people may be complaining about it. Though there are a number of people on the internet going overboard by saying the film is garbage, I can see people saying the film looks bad because they’re so used to Pixar’s usual style that a drastic change like this may seem wrong because it visually feels like tonal whiplash. It’s not so much that they’re blinded by nostalgia but more-so that having to deal with extreme changes like this completely yeets them out of their comfort zone that their gut reaction is to think it’s wrong. I felt the same way with the human characters in Pokémon Scarlet & Violet because they look so realistic and clash with the art style/character designs of the previous pokémon games.
I literally watch this with my little sister and I found nothing wrong with it people claiming to be homophobic racist, degrading... I just don't see it at this point people are looking for something to get angry at I LIKE THE MOVIE THO 7/10 😂
I have to admit that I really enjoyed the movie. It was weird and really out there, and that's what I liked about it. I really enjoy when animated projects that don't shy away from family problems, teenage drama or social issues. The characters, animation and voice acting were all done very well. They did a good job of showing how scary changing and growing up can be, but it happens for a reason. But like any other Disney movie, the problem is mostly resolved to quickly. Forgiving and moving on is important, but its not easy (like they make it seem in their movies). Ming did the exact same thing to Mei that her mother did to her - and she didn't see that? If nothing is ever going to be good enough, you shouldn't push a child to be perfect. Healing can happen...but it takes time. (Ming shouldn't need to apologize. She may have given her mother that scar, but it was Wu's controlling and overbearing nature that caused such an act.) People may call the portrayal of Chinese culture in this movie racist or stereotypical; but it isn't if its all fact. Most families of Asian cultures are very controlling and pass that toxic quirk to their children. Parents shouldn't push their desires onto their children, because than the children never get to live their own lives. If your kids rebel, its most likely because you're refusing to listen to them. If there's a sequel, I seriously hope that Disney doesn't tone down the problems and issues of growing up.
Spoilers.... I kind of disagree with the whole idea of Ming not needing to apologize; heck, that was one of the better parts of the film. Even if her mom "pushed" her into it, it was Ming who lost control. Her panda is something she has to accept responsibility for. Even if it was foisted upon her, Ming was the monster and scarred her mother for life. That's why I hated why the resolution was to simply seal the panda away for her. None of the other pandas were that size or that malevolent, but given that sweeping the problem under the rug didn't work, that would be a sign that maybe forcing her to put the panda in a box isn't a good long-term solution. It would have been nicer if Mei had been able to start teaching Ming control the panda and maybe make it more manageable, giving a sense of intergenerational healing.
@@nangbaby I think that may be why hers was sealed in a tomagotchi. It allows her to get used to it Inna more controlled setting that doesn't topple buildings. Idk I just think that may be a sign she'll get used to it, and understand it- but who knows, I don't think this movie will get a sequel, that'd be odd. I think Mei is already pretty good with her panda already so I'm not sure if anyone needs to train her in the first place, if anything she's fit to be the mentor lol
I really liked this film. Recently it seems like studios are focusing on smaller scale stories, and that's fine. I'd say if Encanto is a 9, Turning Red is a 7.8 I can't think of anything they could have changed, I found the "cringe moments" were also cute and heartwarming, and it made me admit that I was actually pretty normal for a middle schooler all along.
Honestly as a teenage lgbtq person with an extremely conservative mother who I'm terrified of disappointing or angering, I actually quite related to this film. Especially when it came to her mom eventually accepting her even if reluctantly. That at the end of the day, no matter how much they fight, they love each other and yet Mei also isn't painted as the bad guy for rebelling or going against her parents (more like her mom)... in fact... they normalized it. This was a film I legitimately needed and I'm also glad that Mei's friends didn't take a long time to forgive her, I understand them being upset, but I understood Mei's fear of losing her mom in that scene so much. It's a scenario where you feel so powerless, you don't want to shift the blame but there's only so much she can do to other kids.. if she decided it was Mei's fault. Who knows the measures she would've taken. I know this wasn't about lgbtq+ but mentally, this is the message I needed to hear.
This is inside out except instead of her being a white american/canadian she is asian literally focuses on tiger parents being the worst thing which ironically are the reason that the stereotype that asians have better grades.
@@crowmaster9652 huh one of the few times I actually check my notifications on time but I'm aware what the plot is about. Anyway. I'm not sure what you're explaining as my original comment was me talking about how *one* of the messages of the film has helped me even though it wasn't directed to me or the lgbtq community? Are you trying to make sure this isn't an Encanto where lgbtq people pushed their headcanons and side eyed the main plot which is about generational trauma (which god damn)? Or are you trying to critique the plot? I don't understand the message you're trying to send
@@willop6591 tiger parents are worse than the parents from inside out whose decisions based on job promotion impeded a young child's mental state. Basically the same problem difference is Riley actually learned something where as Mei Lee followed the stereotype and nothing actually changed
@@crowmaster9652 erm... I suppose I can see how you'd get that type of message however what type of lesson would you have liked Mei Lee to learn? Because a good part of the film is how she's terrified of getting out of her mother's good graces, then later on she starts letting herself risk upsetting her mom to do the things she wants to do. Granted a lesson on safety about going to a concert as four, alone, thirteen years old girls (especially one who can turn into a panda without meaning to but for other reasons as well) would've been good. The first thing I mentioned is what I took the lesson which Mei learned from all of this
"Why is this film getting so much hate?" Because of stupid people mindlessly following pretentious dweebs who proclaim to be actual critics who state that this movie sucks?
The first time I saw the trailers I was put off a lot by the fact that they tried to show how "cool" and "streetwise" the main character was trying to be. I thought that it was just going to be a cringy film about superficial u.s. teenage feelings and drama, which didn't resonate with me, since I'm from a completely different culture. It is only thanks to the spoilers that I am starting to think that it might be a bit more enjoyable than I originally thought and am slowly starting to consider watching it.
This Movie was a Painful Reminder on how Puberty was when we were 13 During Middle school growth spurts, Voice cracks, hair in........unknown areas muscle cramps.....yeah....
I love when Mei and her friends hug and there's this visible release of tension. And again when Ming and her mother embrace and reconcile. I've heard this film get compared to Encanto a lot, and honestly, I think the way Turning Red portrayed relief and acceptance was handled a little better than the "typical" happy ending of Encanto.
I really enjoyed the movie, I felt the characterrs were really well written, granted they were really goofy at times but that just added to my enjoyment of them Anyone who says this is a bad movie, while I respect your decision and know we all have different opinions, I'm gonna have to majorly disagree with you This movie sits as one of the best movies I've ever seen. Me personally I'd rank it among Spiderman into the Spider verse. Yes it's not as good but to me I see it as being on that level and if not fairly close.
Every movie is predictable. Specifics aside every story follows a similar plot line. Take DCOMs for example no matter what the story is it'll always play out the same, especially if it's a trilogy with romance.
@@DaeyVisionnot everything is predictable because not everything is the same genre, has the same thing that it wants to tell, it also depends on the writers to make something not predictable, which a lot of times there is something you can't predict
I was at Disney Yesterday and they had some turning red merch at my resort. I watched it the day before we left (Friday) i asked my mom if i could get a turning red shirt, and she said no because other people think the movie was bad. I honestly liked this movie and i dont understand why people dont like it.
Someone made a good point. It’s a tween movie. My daughter and I loved this movie. Many of my friends said their sons hated it. I get that they can’t relate so they dislike the film.
Not relating doesnt mean you should hate it. If we always had that mindset humanity would be way worse than it is now. Them declining to have an open mind means they have other issues to deal with and clear bias.
@@Google_remote no one is obligated to enjoy a film. Many entertainment products are made to cater to specific niches (while others cater to broad appeal). Easy examples are horror films, not everyone can stomach them especially if they are gory. The other most obvious example is something with a lot of fanservice or wish fulfillment. It makes perfect sense for a woman to not enjoy a film where a schlubby male lead is fawned over by buxom and scantily clad vixens. While she can understand why a man would enjoy a film like that it is reasonable for her to not relate to the lead and reasonable for her to not enjoy that sort of content. I personally do not watch fan service anime for instance, I am not the target audience.
@@Google_remote At what point did we discuss public figures? Even in the context of public figures we would be foolish to expect them to be moral exemplars all of the time. It is fine to not like the film, big deal.
@@mirsolis4992 Yeah it is, but the way he explained it in the video is like the movie is nothing but boring and unrealistic. It would be nice if he acknowledged the plot.
I loved it! I was impressed by the art style they chose, and the overall setting of 2002 Toronto. Plus, the movie's boyband is a nod to both Backstreet Boys and NSYNC which 90s kids can appreciate!
It's a character driven, zero villian, creative passion story. That's... The foundation of Pixar... And the animation style was introduced in Luca, it's their new thing and finally sets them apart from Disney which ya know, was an issue for awhile. What the heck. And honestly, it's one of my favourite Pixar movies. The cringe is part of its authenticity and if you keep an open mind past the introduction it gets really really good. I love the aesthetic, the lively animation, the personality, the storytelling and depth. It stands, imo, amongst some of the big Pixar movies. Maybe it doesn't have the memorable scenes that make you cry like Up, or the unique story like Toy Story, or gay sea monsters (Luca is gay, you can't convince me otherwise) but it has its own merits and those are plentiful and significant. I think people just hate teenage girls and hate change, and Pixar is changing and this movie is unapologetically about a teen girl so... But people should pull their head in cause those are stupid reasons to hate a movie. You don't have to like it but liking it isn't bad either.
I don’t understand why people hate on it so much tbh, it’s literally about a girl growing up and accepting her self. It goes deeper then that with the generational trauma. I found the movie really relatable and many other kids did too, I get not liking the movie but down right calling it a bad film is not true. I’d say it’s just as good as the other films and it had a bigger impact on me then soul did since it was something I could relate to. Ofc that’s how I felt about the movie but I still think it had an impact on other kids too, so maybe adults should stop hating on a movie and keep their opinions to themselves.
people need to understand that pixar can't make sequels forever. we can't have toy story 17 and cars 19. sooner or later they need to make new franchises. i love turning red. it's actually my favorite pixar movie now.
I think this movie is stunning, from visuals to writing to characters, everything is so thought out and loved it’s insane. You can tell the crew worked really hard on this film. Also I think it’s pretty accurate, when I was 13 I acted like this, maybe I was more angsty but I mean nobody wants to watch a depressed teen get shot down for 2 hours. Anyways.. I love this movie
you're opinion is worth it. don't make spot-on opinions and then let the audience say they are trash and that it's OK. I mean, can't say nobody's opinion matters, but you made a spot on point about how everyone ELSE'S opinions are being hilariously harsh. Don't see where I can disagree. It's funny. For films, it's: "Stay the same, I love nostalgia, or ur trash.", and with gaming it's, "Keep adding new, gigantic, amazing updates every day (that are a whole lot of work but we don't care, we don't develop so we guess it's EASY) or ur old news and boring and garbage and we, the Internet, will TEAR YOU TO SHREDS!!!"
lol it’s not a bad film! it’s absolutely a genuine film with a story to tell and a few casts that i’d love to see again! Encanto and Turning Red are my two favorite films in the past 10 years.
I really doubted this movie. In the beginning I thought it wasn’t gonna be as good but actually WATCHING it and after saying: “damn son, that was pretty good.”
If people don't let Pixar or other studios experiment then, we will continue to be stuck in an endless cycle of remakes and sequels. I prefer a lot of the sequels Pixar has made over Turning Red but I prefer creativity to spread and experimented with even if the best results are not made. We need to support quality original efforts by Pixar and other studios!!!!!!!
Another common criticism is that people couldn't relate to the movie because it's way too niche, and apparently only asian teen girls can enjoy it. But, like, i'm an adult white man and i loved the hell out of this movie. I've never seen a more accurate depiction of teenagers in a movie. I loved all the cringe because it was intentional and meant to add realism to the characters, and the movie has some great messages and an emotional core, just like any other great pixar film.
I really liked the film, it wasn't a masterpiece but it was very good. I was a bit disapointed at the end. I think Ming should have keept her panda and learn to deal with it
i don’t think it’s bad, i just think that they spelled out the message a little bit too much and idk it just like to have more room for theorizing. i can definitely understand why so many ppl like it. it’s not bad just not my favorite either
the fact that this movie gets so much hate is due to a couple things but mostly misogyny. E.g. 'ew periods' and 'i do not feel related to this film' reviews from 30 something male "critics" (dudes whose career in film never took off so now they just talk shit about other people's work). The other part is just parents who realized they are pieces of shit but refuse to acknowledge it. Prove me wrong.
I’m going to be watching this movie tonight because it looks so good! I’m probably going to get cancelled for this but I liked Hotel Transylvania 4 and it got a lot of hate but was overall a 7/10 for me could’ve been better but was good
@@jojieanimations2887 I actually really liked it,It got a few laughs out me and was overall a great film! The Red Panda origin is fascinating! I’d definitely recommend to those who haven’t watched it yet!
It'd be silly to get cancelled for liking a movie... Unless it was legitimately disturbing. But this isn't! I'm happy you liked it, haven't watched it yet.
They say woke and sjw polluted film making, ignoring the fact that conservative are no different. The only thing that is stagnant and didn't change is what is dead.
"Turning Red teaches kids to rebel and disobey their parents!!1!!" BRUH AS IF MULAN DIDN'T DO THE SAME THING! Mulan's father was supposed to be drafted in the war but due to his physical health, Mulan couldn't accept that. So she rebels against EVERYONE (especially since it takes place during a time in which women weren't allowed to participate in wars) by posing as a man and joins the war BEHIND HER PARENT'S BACK! Lmao the double standards
As a weird kid growing up, it felt so nice to have that kind of representation. I really related to Mei as a character and about her strive to live up to her parents expectations of her, whist also not holding any resentment against her mom.
I ADORED this movie!! I get that the plot about a group of squealy teen girls and their interests may not be for everyone, just like CARS wasn't for me because I couldn't care less about cars. But for myself I found it super relatable, funny, wonderfully weird and just plain FUN! So many movies take themselves so seriously, this one was just a pure good time! Just what I needed to have a laugh and some joy after two years of ongoing bad news and coronavirus.
Reading the comment I feel like the only girl who didn't see the period as a big deal. It was "hey mum this is red, I think I had my first period", end of the story. Really, it needs to be talked more because I don't get why it is treated as a taboo.
I’m kinda laughing at the “reasons” they think it’s bad, like oh so if a film has a female main character it’s “feminist” alright that totally makes sense
i hated it because mei and her friends were super cringe, like all the personalities sucked so bad, but the choker and she had and how at the end how she becomes a furry or niko whatever, it made me wanna die
so many boys in movies are super-uber cringe but girls don't say anything because they have been taught to hide their pandas. Super heroes are pretty lame and the costumes are geeky.
I absolutely loved Turning Red! ❤ Saw it for the first time last night (3/21/2022) last night and I just watched it again. I don't see anything wrong with it and I'm glad Pixar is making films like this now with relatable storylines for children about real life issues they face.
i think the hate either comes from parents annoyed at the fact that the movie includes topics of puberty and for some reason they are absolutely appauled by that, or from random people online who either havent watched it,or don't have strong opinions on it and just want to piggyback on the hate.
A good reason why I hate this film is because its message is very cryptic and so specific to female teenagers. This film had a chance to reach female teeangers and also broaden its audiences for everyone. For a good example, a message could be like being yourself, freedom, whatever. Mei could've learned who she truly is, and what her panda side really means to herself. Instead she literally profits out of it just to visit a boy band. Mei's consequences feels so underwhelming and both overwhelming in this film, like at the start she gets all of these weird embarrassments and stuff. For example her at school from her mother, or her mother again going to the store clerk to confront him, those felt so out of line, like she got shat on from the beginning, but then by the second half of the film, she's not deserving the consequences she needs. For example sneaking behind her mother's back, lying, and more. This film's execution should've been better imo, and could've reached a broader audience, which Pixar is very good at, but this film felt too specific which made a general audience dislike it. Puberty imo should be talked about a bit more often than usual, and should be more normalized. This just felt too specific for a company that makes films G rated, this felt more into the teenager zone and doesn't feel like something Pixar would bravely try doing, but good for them. The movie in general is a good idea, and I'd say it doesn't deserve as much hate as it does, it just needs to be improved to reach a broader audience imo. Also the animation hate is so stupid, I personally like the cartoony style and quirky type they're trying to do, people are just now trying to find excuses why they hate the film. If you like the movie, good for you! :D This movie is great, and you should like it. I personally do not like it because this film is overly specific imo. Thanks for reading.
It was a pretty great movie up until the "getting rid of the panda" part. The morals are feel jumbled and it doesn't teach an end moral. What does the panda even stand for, after 1 hour and 30 minutes of Period references, Emotions, Puberty? It feels like a film where the main character's bad actions are excused. Meimei, in panda form, quite literally gave a boy gigantic gashes going down his face, arms, and tore through his shirt, probably scratching his chest as well. She then goes on to run away to a concert, which in real life, is DANGEROUS. As a woman in college, 13 year old children do NOT have a clue about what happens to 13 year old girls who run away unaccounted for and unsupervised at concerts or raves. "I'm 13, mom!" What lesson does this teach? What's the point of this film? At the end, it doesn't hold morals for anyone of any age. It's a movie just to exist, which essentially places it on Spongebob's level. Yes, it's a film for kids/teens growing up that, for once, **isn't** about homecoming, prom, highschool valley girl drama, or anything inappropriate. That's good, and it's great, but above all, it teaches this: 1) Despite assaulting a bully and giving him permanent scars (they were erased 10 minutes later in the film, however, that's not how it is realistically) it's ok to keep your panda, even if it's a danger to other people. 1.5) The panda was not linked directly to "Repressing emotions" or "Repressing yourself." Everyone else in the family was normal, and functioned fine without the use of it, even in the end scene. Therefore, she should still be held accountable. 2) You can lash out and physically lunge at kids your age, and you can lie to your parents long term instead of having a healthy sit down about things that the parent do that upset the child. 3) When you don't get what you want, lie and do it behind your parent's back. Do step 4. 4) You can run away to a secret concert unsupervised and yell at your parents when they give you consequences for it. 5) Magic will happen, and instead of having a huge family fight, everyone will cry and make up about it instead of remembering the child's actions. Realistically, she could have been kidnapped, she could have gone to jail or juvenile for assault, her parents could have been sued. Possibly even kicked out of school, but this isn't about reality. It's about teaching kids the world's only about them, and there's no one else to consider when you lash out, lie, and run away.
What movie DOES do strict parents and demonstrates the consequences of Children running away? Finding Nemo. It shows the flaws in the parent, but also, the child. The child was lost, scared, confused, and that's the reality. Nemo could have died in a fish tank, died in captivity, essentially kidnapped, eaten, anything. Marlin regretted his actions the whole movie. There was growth, there was real substance, there was trust, and there were realistic consequences that children can understand. You know one character in Finding Nemo, that had giant, lifelong gashes on him? Gill. His life was permanently debilitated because of it, and the scars never disappeared or magically healed. There were consequences for a character that were long lasting, even before the film started. That is how you place realism in a movie. That these things last forever. Finding Nemo was everything that Turning Red lacked, and that's why we are comparing it. The animation quality and "Whimsical factor" both went up, while the actual writing dropped like an anchor in the sea.
The panda is the passion that women have but are forced to hide so society and family can be the world we know today. If women did not hide/ignore their wild side the world would be more passionate and loving~
@@ladycanada35 So the passion comes out when a teen girl is embarrassed during class? It just seems like they couldn't figure out what the Panda stood for, and it changes every 20 minutes.
Turning Red made me laugh so much that it brought me joy which is rare for me to be happy with a great movie like this. People hating on this movie are just too inconsiderate that they compare this to real life like come on people, *IT'S A KIDS MOVIE.* I mean, I'm an adult and I enjoyed the movie, I understood the lore of the red panda, I enjoyed the characters and it's story. It shouldn't receive hate for what it speaks out for because it's the truth for early teens, it should be getting all the love in the world for all of the greatness that it's become. 😔 Maybe it's just me. Anyways, Turning Red's estimated DVD release date is on June 17th, 2022 everyone.
I personally found the movie ok. A good 6/10. It’s simple and straight to the point although some stuff doesn’t need to be there or doesn’t make sense. For example,what was the point of the grocery clerk scene with the mom? You already knew that she was overprotecting, it only comes up twice which are both jokes and stuff like that. The movie has a different style than most Pixar films although I do like the style if you don’t pause the movie. You are correct that if this came out on illumination this would be perfection.
I think that scene was actually pretty great, because not only was it the same level of cringe/horror as I felt watching the main character squeeze through a tiny gate and cut her back open in Ready or Not, it set up things for the kids at school to tease Meilin about, so that there was a buildup of feelings before she snapped
Ppl need to stop freaking out over media that‘s targeting young girls. The idea that a film can be made for little girls breaking the heads of grown up idiots really is baffling to me. This just shows that we need more movies for girls because the lack of that is making people act really insane. This is a sign that there really is a serious lack of big picture media made for little girls and that is a serious problem. When a movie depicting the lives of young girls is breaking people‘s brains, then we still got a lot of work to do for society to respect women and girls in our society.
I haven't felt this much excitement for an animated film since Spider-Verse. While Turning Red is not quite on that level of Spider-Verse, it's personality makes up for it big time.
animation is becoming more mature each year adult familys need to understand its not a baby medium anymore as it once was back durin the 60s its for all ages this movie has more goin for it than people cant see. turning reds cast & characters has a beautiful diverse cast 😊
I actually really liked this film! it was sooo cute looking, the storyline was pretty relatable with my parents and letting go, and it was super funny. I don’t think Pixar has dropped the ball on good movies since the good dinosaur, people just hating.
I can't help but wonder if people would still hate the movie if it was about a 13-year-old BOY and his relationship with his father and the final conflict taking place at say, a baseball game instead of a girl and her mother and the final conflict taking place at a boy band concert. People tend to get weird talking about what 13-year-old girls have to deal with during puberty, ie periods, and a lot of people LOVE hating on things marketed to teenage girls, ie boy bands. This movie was quite accurate at portraying a 13-year-old girl, thinking she's grown up, her friends and obsessions being her life, trying to find her own identity outside of her family, and the changes that come from being a girl going through puberty. And maybe if this movie existed when I was 13, maybe I would've felt less shame at having periods. It was just something that wasn't talked about and was considered shameful to talk about even though they're totally normal. Anyway, I think people complain that it's not Pixar enough because they don't want to admit that they're uncomfortable with a movie that deals with girls going through puberty, even though the main themes are something a lot of people could relate to.
I really loved this film. I hope they turn it into a series so we can see Mel grow more alongside the Panda. I know Pixar dosent normally branch out their movies into sequels or series. But I can picture different episodes having Mei deal with more things that kids growing up have to deal with. Like hygiene, crushes, rebellion against authority, new interests in life, etc.
I liked the art and the premise; what bothered me was the resolution. I'll need to see it again to really figure out my thoughts more fully, but on first watch this felt shallow in kind of the same way _Grease_ feels shallow. Two people are in conflict; one changes to suit the other, while the other just doubles down and gets their way. That hurts because that's not how healthy conflict resolution works - even if one person is _more right,_ there are always things we can learn from the other "side." And the movie did a good job of showing us the flaws in both perspectives, but then the ending just decided to side 100% with Mei and decide that her mother was just out of control and that Mei was right about everything.
Thank you for encapsulating precisely one of the biggest problems with this film. It leans too hard into "Mei is right and you need to let go" while ignoring how this girl got off scott free for making some horrible decisions and, yet, at the same time undercutting its own message by saying "you can choose to keep the panda or to lose the panda and both are equally valid" even though bottling it in is what caused the third act to happen. Basically, Mei got her way and no one really learned. Heck, at least Teen Wolf had Scott Howard learn he couldn't use "the wolf" to find happiness and that movie is 35 years old.
Ofc its my opinion, but me and my mom didnt like it bc we thought it was a little boring, i thought the ending was good, (almost broke me to tears tbh bc of how i saw it, i think i would have cried if i was up in my room) anyway like yk the end where mei is in the bamboo forest? i liked that part alot, from there till the end, bc some of the things she said in the bamboo forest, i related to alot, completely different topic of she was talking abt for me i saw what she said as a transgender thing (since im yk trans wtv) and the whole movie is like based on a mother accepting her child for who they are and what they want? like ''my body, my choice'' ''my panda, my choice'' which is where my whole trans thing i could relate too with, i was talking to my friend abt it, BUT ANYWAYS, like i thought it was a little dumb? Not in any offensive way, but that pretty much the whole thing was them just wanting to go to a concert and ofc other things happened that were meaningful and everything, its just over not being able to see a concert? and idk i just found it a bit boring, it was cute for sure, but just not one of my favorites, please dont hate on me for not liking it, you will get completely ignored and i wont even tolerate with ur comment- i didnt say anything hateful abt the movie or anyone, just not one of my favorite thats all, and ig thanks? if u even bothered to read this.
They’re upset about girls going through puberty. I got my period when I was nine years old, and the doctor said it was normal. I had a friend who didn’t get hers till high school. I don’t see the issues with this movie at all.
I honestly loved it. Also as a bts fan, TaeYoung of 4Town just makes me so happy. His name is based on Taehyung and his design on Jimin and I just love that so much!!!
Went into the film with a shrug and a wish that it was okay at best... left wanting more and questioning if I'm a furry. 10/10 would watch again and again
I dont think many PPL realise that the red bear is a metaphor for her getting her period. So the movie is basically about what a teenage girl goes through
I can't disagree that's a component. And I'm an old man. But I have a daughter, and she went through some things as an adolescent. That scene at the bathroom door as Mei's mother initially thinks Mei's menses has started, and the father freezes in mid-step and fades backward...I choked laughing for five minutes. We had to pause the video.
Anyone who thinks this film is too mature for kids must not have seen Hocus Pocus reference 'virgins' about 100x, and ritual killing. Society has become so desensitized, yet US kids movies have gotten infantalized in the last 20 years to an alarming degree. It's weird!
Times were different back then when no one had to complain about literally EVERYTHING to the point of killing any hope of an IP remaining in the limelight
@@Cruddy129 Yeah, social media definitely has its downside. This movie doesn't even push the boundary though. Oh no, she drew abs on a cartoon, the horror! Actual 13 year olds would do a lot worse. 🤣 Anyway, I'm glad this movie wasn't afraid to take a step away from the status quo. I miss stuff like this, it reminded me a bit of the 90s movie Now and Then.
@@enbymack1846 13 year old here, can confirm this is true.
@@enbymack1846 true
I mean they didn't linger on those moments that long, if anything you look at this film and they pause on periods, pads, and unnecessary emotional moments that drag the film. Hocus Pocus had the context that witches did dark magic so no shit about the virgin dark aspect its to build suspense at whats at stake which it did a better job than this movie failed miserably at.
What was at stake in this movie? I'm being serious unless there is an example of an accident that shows what happens when the red panda isn't sated there just isn't enough for me to give frankly a damn about.
There's also been a lot of criticism of this film from pearl-clutching parents who are scandalized that a movie about a 13 year old girl includes topics that actual 13 year old girls deal with.
You can say periods. People thought it was crass to mention and normalize it
P-p-periods? In a movie about a girl becoming a teenager and dealing with the struggles of growing up?? How dare they!? 😭😭😭
- Someone's mom, probably
People were outraged because of the Word stripper and sexy BHAHAAH
@@wasabilover1293 and drugs lmao, they are almost as protective as Mei's mother
@@contentm3893 we found a pearl-clutching parent.
All the hate I saw was adults complaining about how this film covers the topic of puberty and people thought that was inappropriate… what??? It’s puberty, kids really need to know that stuff, this is the dumbest reason to complain. I mean, I guess parents have the right to completely shelter their children. IMO puberty should never be seen as inappropriate, I got mine when I was 9 and I thought I was dying and I thought there was something wrong with me, that’s exactly why this film is important. I don’t want anyone to hide in their room and cry for hours or feel like they’re feeling gross ways like I did. I felt ugly and I hated my body I thought all eyes were on me and I felt absolutely disgusted with myself. Because no one ever told me that everything I was going through was normal. Children should never feel that way.
@Aderyn
I haven't seen this film yet, but given what I keep hearing I stupidly thought Western animation had finally started making content aimed primarily at teens...
Then I remembered I live in America where such content is frowned upon regardless of political affiliation or belief system...
@@DemonicRemption it’s like that here in the UK too. We’re just so judgmental and look for why something’s bad instead of what makes it good. It makes me so sad to see people complain about what makes this film so special.
Dam people really hatting on puberty?
Also uk is great- i plan to visit it some time.
@@emperorgeorgethefirst674 too many words for "I hate myself so everyone should hate themselves too"
@@emperorgeorgethefirst674 yeah when you start getting philosophical is when we disregard any valid argumentative point you bring.
Something interesting I noticed with the two latest movies by Disney and Pixar(Encanto & Turning Red) is that they both deal with intergenerational trauma. They do it in different ways and are surrounded by different cultures, but they do it well and in a way that doesn't take away from the surface level plot that kids will enjoy.
*YOU NOTICED THAT TOO!!*
Yup, that's the term. Bird is the word that I've heard.
I'd say the surface level plot takes away from the emotional plot of the movie.
I feel it was about time to expand on characters themselves rather than an overall story.
I hate the type of people this specific movie attracts. not to mention it promotes the CCP.
I loved this movie. I found myself laughing out loud which is RARE for me during a film. It was charming as well. People are just miserable. No reason for this film to receive hate.
It basically says to your children be cunt and do what ever you want.. that's how
@@Mr.Gizzmo i don't think we watched the same movie since that literally wasn't the point at all. it was about puberty and embracing yourself as who you are instead of acting as another person and being miserable - as well as overcoming generational trauma.
@@Mr.Gizzmo No they hate because the movie about a girl, bottom line.
@@stolasgoetia93 a teenage one at that which likes all the things a teenage girl likes.
it such a cute show
Some people just don't wanna admit that this is what early teenagers do. As a 14 year old, I relate a lot with this film. I gotta admit, I was unsure about this film when I first saw the trailer but then when I watched it, I love it! It has everything about growing up and stuff, especially relationships changing with parents. It almost made me teard up because it reminded me of me and my mom, especially the ending.
As a former middle schooler, can confirm, this movie is pretty realistic.
Same
As a fellow 14 year old I agree with all of your points. I’m cringey sometimes and Pixar perfectly showed this about teens in the movie
As a Young adult I absolutelya dored the movie because it is just so exactly how thirteen year olds act and it was so charming.
I just turned 20 and yeah this movie was pretty realistic
i love how people are trying to pretend that Pixar has never experimented with animation. whether is be art style or technical stuff. If Pixar kept doing the same thing over and over again. im sure people would complain about that as well.
Yeah but the art style here looks identical to Luca.
@@AaaaNinja and how many people complained? Zero
Animation and art style is two entirely different things. Their animation is still the top notch from the times they begun as a studio.
Just like in The Incredibles
You save someone's life, you'll get sued by stupid people
If you don't, you will be called heartless
It really never is a win-lose situation, always a lose-lose situation
Right! Most of their stories before the mid-2010s centered non-human characters, and when human characters were the focus, they’re often more stylized than attempting hyperrealism
I think a lot of people didnt like the fact it talked about periods even know they are normal. they also say it's too sexual to be in a PG film. it's not.
It's as "sexual" as deep voices 😂
Honestly, as a guy, I thought that was hilarious. I don't see how it's "sexual".
The only parts of the movie I didn't like were some of the cringe worthy, boy crazy moments
Like honestly, if it shows up more that would be good because it would make girls who enter teenage years a lot more comfortable. It is DEFINITELY a good thing.
Sexual?
What even classes as remotely sexual in this?
@@brennanshane146 Same
people: Pixar just makes the same movies, get something diferent
Pixar: *makes onward (another underated gem btw) and turning red*
people: ew thats not you
pixar:
That so true and Disney doesn’t get hate on ANY Movies! Pixar deserves more respect then Disney. I wouldn’t be surprised if they had an augment with Disney themselves for not being respected equally
@@wizardity5298 Disney wins just because reputation. but pixar has Actually good movie.
I really enjoyed this movie, since I could really emphasise with the character and the experiences they went through. It was very fun and enjoyable and I felt so much 2nd hand embarrassment.
Me too I enjoy the movie I watched it like find me trouble
same
Empathize
Smarty pants would probably agree because he's seen miraculous ladybug and most likely some of the scenes in the show that make you wanna flee, it legit triggers your fight or flight mode
Its basically how the average Chinese citizen thinks they can do whatever they want yet they look brainwashed because of their government being a tiger parent by watching their every action and over dramatizing aspects they don't like.
Hate? What hate? I’m a guy and I could relate with this film better than any other animated film out there. Growing up in 2003, this film nailed that era especially with the attitude and boy bands. Also the animation for Turning Red is top notch and completely different compared to other Pixar films. I’ve never laughed so hard at a cartoon in my life.
also the expressions were really great! Especially the dodge ball scene!
Exactly why make up this clickbait ass narrative everyone liked it.
@@Adriloves03 I honestly couldn't make it past the first 20 minutes or so- when they started using the red panda to make money for their tickets. Admittedly, I'm a guy, so I can't relate to the main character, but I also feel like the Dad was just wallpaper up to that point. Again, that fits the theme (mother-daughter conflict) but it was just a miss for me.
Two words, Josiah Rises
@ferret yeah, and Karens, acting like this is propaganda to “destroy the nuclear family”
I can't help but feel like the art style criticism boils down to 'the girls look like actual 13 year olds and are hard to sexualize'. Other crit I've seen is just blatant racism (complaining about seeing hijabi in background characters? A realistically diverse friend group is pandering??)
Turning Red was a refreshing change of pace and I dig the fond accuracy of our burgeoning cringe years during the early 2000's. And yea, I am absolutely getting gutpunched with nostalgia for the playlists they put out for each of the girls on Spotify!
On top of that, this film was way better Asian representation than say Raya was, and it didn't feel like it was done as a Disney checklist either. A genuine look at Asian diaspora generational struggles, imagine that.
@@contentm3893 it's like when they advertised 'first gay Disney character' for BatB live action or 'First SE Asian princess' for Raya when the representation was vague and surface-level at best, but they still hype it up despite half-assing just to say they did something progressive
the way people are describing the diversity of the film as “pandering” bugs me so much. i looked at mei’s friend group and saw my friend group in middle school. i was pretty much one of the only white kids, my best friends were filipino, chinese, indian, japanese, black, etc. and i was a jewish kid like miriam! i guess it depends where you live, but mei’s friend group definitely isn’t unrealistic, especially for being set in toronto
@@contentm3893 Was Luca, another Pixar movie, art style basic and not very good? Turning Red and Luca have effectively the same animation and art style, yet I don't see people bitching about that.
@@contentm3893 what do you want, a hyper realistic CARTOON movie? It’s still a Pixar movie at the end of day and it’s supposed to be cartoony. Just cause it’s targeted towards tweens and teens doesn’t mean it should be the most realistic looking movie you could ever watch.
@@contentm3893 Brave and Turning Red are completely different movies. They don’t have to keep the same look from one movie to another. The themes of the two movies are nothing similar either, so comparing the two art styles is ridiculous. Times change and as long as people like you exist, studio’s will hesitate to expand and experiment with different things just to please nostalgia-nazi’s
Imagine trying to censor what literally every human had to go through in their teenage years...
No no, it's a well known fact that the people crying about the movie skipped ages 10-29 and went straight to 30
@@gravityx3 Ah, I see - thanks for the info, never caught onto that
Those kinds of people are preparing their children for a traumatic teenage life.
The hate feels way overblown, I thought the goofy action fit well with the 13 year old in the 2000s storytelling. The animation style especially in the face reminded me of Aardman animations, and I think that style helped it feel more childlike. The only thing I wished they had elaborated on was why the mother's panda was kaiju sized.
I've seen some theories saying that the reason for Ming's panda size was because of the emotional baggage she carried.
The panda represented period rage and some women have it worse than others. My theory anyway.
I've seen some theories that the size of the panda is proportional to the amount of suppressed emotions // bottled up feelings she never addressed in a healthy way
The only thing that i didnt like about this film came from my own second hand embarrassment. Like sitting their watching Ming go embarrassing her child by airing her personal journal and being an absolute helicopter was hard to watch.
The unhinged cringe of a middle schooler
Oh I hate that scene too! Plus I'm surprised Ming said "drugs" in this movie.
ME TOO BUT I LIKED IT
tbh I think this is a valid reason to personally dislike the film regardless of what one thinks of its quality. Sometimes good things can be hard to watch.
Same
I really don’t understand why Turning red is getting hate because this is really good and is showing us how we were as 13 years old 😭
People hate 13 years old
@@geekosPES what really
@@geekosPES You're kidding, right?
@@johnsantos507 Idk. Do you like 13 years old ? Depending on your age it could be creepy
@@geekosPES How is being a 13 years old is creepy?🤷🏿♂️
Easy to answer that question: There's a trend in media for males having a gross distaste for anything centering female narratives (The character designs were pretty close to Luca so I have no idea why someone would be confused by that)
No people act like there is so much hate but in reality there is only like 7 mean comments on Twitter
@@strickshot literally not true. Like clearly
@@Slipperyslab where is the hate? i only see comments of people saying Oh eYi DOUnt gET tHe hAte
@@strickshot Its literally not hard to find. And of course you aren’t going to find hate on a video literally defending the movie.
@@Slipperyslab you still give no examples of what people say and the platforms they are on. There is clearly more people talking about "the hate" than they are actually people hating
"A story about teenage girls? Which mentions periods?! Good lord, it's the end of the world." Yes, many critics have a nice layer of misogyny and it's showing....
I loved turning red, though I'm not sure I was ready for the way Disney decided to focus on intergenerational trauma in the last couple of months......
Who has a problem with periods in the movie?
@@ihatemotionblur_3255 People who try to act like it's not a natural course of being a girl growing up
PREACH!
Hopefully you love this Good lord so you can also realize this Red Panda is the opposite of Jesus Christ himself.
Even women? Lie dumb moms?
Reason:
Karen parents, critic incorrectly calling this movie “horny”
Idiots thinking the movie is problematic, and “grooming” children, and to “destroy the nuclear family”
Those quotes are actual quotes from people, and of course people are acting like the message is to be rebellious and “the movie is trying to teach kids that being rebellious is cool” < this quote isn’t entirely accurate, but it gets the same idea
The real message is more about kids growing up, and needing their parents less, and that parents don’t always know better, even if they care about you(and they do)
This🔥🔥🔥🔥 say it louder the the stupid people in the back
A lot of moms seem to fail to see the aspect that the movie is also about a mother trying to protect her child but failing pretty badly. Seen a lot of mom comments saying they think the movie is teaching kids to be rebellious because of a boy band. This isn't the case because if you think your child is gonna get money by who knows how and sneak out to a concert you're probably doing something wrong as a parent.
Other points I've seen complaining about is the periods talk as if that's the whole movie? It's a natural thing as is puberty in general. The movie isn't your educational video you watch in school, it portrays a moment where a mother sort of overreacts, caringly, to the fact that her daughter may have gotten her period. Some people think it's disgusting this was even mentioned in the movie but what other options is there for a mother to react that way? Probably none.
Its literally just people still being afraid of periods, period. lol
I can see the validity of the complaints. These kids are 13 and look like literal kids.
It's telling that the other mothers largely put limits on their kids, too, so the whole "you can't go to the concert" is not an unreasonable boundary to set. They are too young to go to a concert without parental or adult supervision (and it would be unreasonable to force the parents to go along, given the ticket costs), and yet in the end, parental protection is considered bad.
I can't remember where I heard this from but it was " if you are too strict on your kids, you don't raise obedient kids, you raise better liars"
@@demonkitty_toebeans I don't know about that. What if the kids *don't* learn how to lie effectively?
It's entirely possible if you are too strict on your kids, they will be obedient, but won't know how to do anything for themselves or even want anything for themselves. Not that it's better, but I don't think every child of a controlling parent learns to lie to get away from them.
@@nangbaby what it means is if you restrict your kids too much they will end up doing the things you don't want without telling you, my mom did. You are looking into it to deep
I loved it so so much. Like this was it. This film got what it was like to be a 13 year old girl. And it was so much fun and so cute and hilarious that I genuinely cannot understand why other people straight up hate it but I’ve never been much of a movie critic in the first place.
@@gavinvanvalkenburg8210 speak for yourself. Your teenage experience is not universal and just because you don’t relate doesn’t make it a bad movie. I’d make the distinction that it’s not ‘basic’ rather a simple lighthearted movie.
Edit: wrong your
I think the movie was amazing. At first I thought the art style might not be for me, but when it’s actually animated and not just odd stills, it looks pretty great. It had good characters, humor, and story. And I won’t even lie, the ending honestly hit me and had me crying. It’s not for everyone, sure, but it’s still a great movie.
I ended up loving this film so much more than I had anticipated. One of the biggest criticisms I keep seeing is that it is not appropriate for children because of references to menstruation, rebellion against parents, etc. They've missed one of the film's strongest messages that was aimed at them and not their kids, that children are not possessions for their parents to mold and shape as they see fit. Parents certainly need to serve as guides and protectors but they also need to encourage and support their children; otherwise you become a monster. I've yet to see anyone explain to me how Encanto is perfectly fine (Abuela's harsh expectations for her family literally destroys their home) but Turning Red (Ming Lee's strict insistence on who her daughter is leads to her becoming a Kaiju and wrecking Toronto) isn't?
Right there are lessons for everyone in kids' movies they teach us so much
Its funny how people will complain about companies making sequels and remakes of older movies and want them to start making original stories again. Then companies do make original stories and those same people start complaining.
@Chorus Daniel
Original stories need to be good lol
@@ihatemotionblur_3255 yep. And they are
@@ihatemotionblur_3255 I don't know about the others but Turning Red is a gem among the rough.
at least they don't complain about them being original stories
I adored this movie! I'm a white cis hetero guy too! But I've lived in Asia now for like 15 years, and teach middle school students with these sorts of parents and expectations and cultural influence and this movie was SO DEAD ON. I saw all my students represented and that made me love it. I also laughed out loud until I peed a little.
I also had friends growing up who were children of first gen immigrants and saw these struggles from that angle as well. Pixar has made my favorite movies in my life, and this one topped them all.
I love that the parents and mom weren't shown as tyrants, but given nuance and shown to act out of a place of love. It's so easy to go overboard with the Tiger Mother trope, but I thought they did it very well here.
I really liked the movie. I felt like it capture the awkwardness of being a preteen. In my opinion I feel like people tend to hate things market to teenage girl.
I thought this movie was pretty alright. I just don't really get how people are getting the message wrong.
Like it's not that rebelling against your parents is a good thing, and that you shouldn't listen to them. The message is that parents need to loosen the reigns a little.
Hell, if Mei's mother WASN'T a tiger mom, Mei wouldn't be rebelling in the first place. The other message being that you should embrace all parts of yourself, ie: Mai finally being honest with her mother.
Exactly, if you want I might get some quotes from a video from a guy who doesn’t deserve his channel, he said the movie is to “destroy the nuclear family” and people are saying it’s propaganda to give them more power and control, and the comment section said “it’s all downhill from here”
rebellion can happen regardless of how the child is parented, it isn't unheard of for children raised in overly permissive households to crave boundaries and stability, there are people who become more conservative/traditional in retaliation to how they were raised. Every kid is different.
@@mirsolis4992 It kind of has everything to do with how they were raised? If you allow your kid to try new things AND still support them/have boundaries then they wouldn't feel the need to rebel.
Besides, everyone I've known personally who started rebelling against their parents had parents who were either exactly like Mei's mother, or were the type who were more interested in being their kid's friend. But even then the type of rebellion was a lot different.
The ones with strict parents tended to be the type to sneak out, drink, and not do their schoolwork. They also tended to be the types who because they were never allowed to actually be responsible for themselves, were irresponsible as hell. Ie: they types who couldn't manage their money. Also they tended to not really know how to think for themselves because they never got the chance to, and they tended to be pretty selfish.
The kids with parents who had no rules also grew up to be irresponsible and did a lot of the stuff kids with tiger parents did, but there was also the added fact that they tended to just be massive assholes who didn't really care about anything in their life, and had no semblance of what they wanted to do with their life, as if they just didn't have any hobbies.
@@bluebird1914 Now drinking underaged, sneaking out after curfew and truancy is just pointless, strict parent or not. Everything Mei has done has had a point
I enjoyed it! I loved this one and Luca - they're actually now some of my favourites. Then again, I really enjoy the 'slow' cinema moments in animation too, films that don't necessarily have much of a villain or billions of plot strings (Kiki's delivery service for eg has no villain - just a coming of age, sweet movie). And I guess with these stories being less about overcoming a villain, and more introspective, they work well for that light-hearted 'feel good' movie style. Pixar are making films about kids just being kids, as flawed as they can be. And, it's wonderful to see.
Same for me
it looks like Luca art style too
exactly.
when luca came out i used to get furious when people wouldnt stop complaining saying it was bad because it had no plot and nothing happened, and a movie about a kid wanting a vespa wasnt worth the time.
i mean seriously???? thats just stupid
Watching this film does somewhat remind me of myself when i was younger dealing with strict parents and being a cringy kid. The story was pretty simple and I do like the animation i can get it why people don’t like it but it is what it is.
I find it interesting that this new stylistic choice wasn't a problem when they used it on Luca.
Also, it's frustrating to know that people were all about a certain "Pixar" style now, after 25 years of knowing that 75% of the reason I eat these things up is because they're the only movie studio that actively tries to push for original stories. Sure, there are sequels, but they're all follow up to films with some of the most unique stories out there. Bonus they're absolutely gorgeous to look at, no mater where they decide to go visually.
From what I’ve heard, a lot of people are upset that this is advertised as a “kids” movie…When I hear “coming of age film” I think of a young teen. I’ve been reading a lot about how there are scenes that are a little much for young kids, and make the parents uncomfortable.
But have you actually watched it? What is YOUR personal opinion?
@@contentm3893 8 years and over.. so it wouldn't make sense for parents to be complaining about that, since some people actually get periods at 9
Meanwhile in my country the most popular animated movies literally features murders, drugs, attempted killings by actual ways used IRL, and the main character locked up in a mental asylum just before the third act. And lots and lots of swearing and inuendos. And the kids here love it, only the few Karens here have issues with it. Turning Red is really tame by comparison though it does almost feel like it could be from here with its language and casual mentioning of stuff like periods, crushes, or implied hormones and desires. I'm really glad that Pixar actually tries normalising these topics in this movie!
@@drdewott9154 right like focus on that, give that a bunch of rotten tomatoes instead of a movie about something educating because 'thats inappropriate for my child' ☠️
Coming of age films can range from preteen to young adults but usually they involve a kid trying to become independent/mature.
i loved this movie! but i think a lot of those who criticize it as you mentioned in the video is also due to the fact that pixar's previous movies were usually non-humans given humanization. those deliberate choices allowed general audiences to relate to aspects of the films bc the films themselves were casting wider nets.
so when a movie that's focusing on an unapologetically 13 year old girl in the early 2000s who comes from a family of color, suddenly all the white audience members are "disconnected" from the film and thus mentally disengage with the story. it really shows a lot about their privilege of being considered the "default" in cinema (like casting white actors or designing white characters), so the moment a big animation studio creates a movie with a specific audience in mind, suddenly it's "a bad movie."
and that's really unfair for the team behind this movie, bc even if i can't "see myself" in this film, i felt the movie had strong enough characters for me to empathize with them and desiring to see how their story ended.
(oof sorry for the long comment)
I don't thinks it's that about that, for example Most encanto characters aren't white and yet they're rlly relatable to a lot of ppl
@@insertunoroginalnamehere6189 (technically none of encanto's characters are White, they just have varying skin tones from Light to Dark)
i mean yes, but also encanto isn't Pixar, encanto is Disney. Disney has had plenty of human protagonist films in the past, as opposed to Pixar having more non-human protags. as the video here mentioned, there seems to be this higher expectation from Pixar, but if this movie was produced by any other studio people would say "wow, this movie is great for a [insert studio] movie!"
@@ezool18 America has mostly white people just like China has lots of chinese people 🤯
@@strickshot Film is set in Toronto _Canada_ .
@@travissmith2848 huh
It gave me a lot of Ghibli Studio vibe, it's why I enjoyed it. There have been a lot of coming-of age-movies in those films but not many talks about actually ''growing up'' and touching the subject of puberty. It is a good way to bring out their confidence in a fun way.
Unhinged ghibli
Let me suggest you watch Only Yesterday by the other genius man at Studio Ghibli, Isao Takahata. The main character is a woman close to her 30s who remembers moments of her puberty and there is a period-panic moment. It was released in... 1991
I have seen that yes. That was what Turning Red reminded me of.
There should not be any elitism from a fandom who is so gung ho for a studio that made Cars.
Yes, Pixar has some incredible work under their belt, but I’m totally on board for Pixar utilizing different art styles.
But the lead character in Car was Owen Wilson . Someone a certain demographic can identify with.
While I love the art style of Turning Red, I can understand why *some* people may be complaining about it. Though there are a number of people on the internet going overboard by saying the film is garbage, I can see people saying the film looks bad because they’re so used to Pixar’s usual style that a drastic change like this may seem wrong because it visually feels like tonal whiplash. It’s not so much that they’re blinded by nostalgia but more-so that having to deal with extreme changes like this completely yeets them out of their comfort zone that their gut reaction is to think it’s wrong.
I felt the same way with the human characters in Pokémon Scarlet & Violet because they look so realistic and clash with the art style/character designs of the previous pokémon games.
I literally watch this with my little sister and I found nothing wrong with it people claiming to be homophobic racist, degrading... I just don't see it at this point people are looking for something to get angry at I LIKE THE MOVIE THO 7/10 😂
No one's saying that lol. But conservatives are mad because it's woke or whatever.
I have to admit that I really enjoyed the movie. It was weird and really out there, and that's what I liked about it. I really enjoy when animated projects that don't shy away from family problems, teenage drama or social issues. The characters, animation and voice acting were all done very well. They did a good job of showing how scary changing and growing up can be, but it happens for a reason.
But like any other Disney movie, the problem is mostly resolved to quickly. Forgiving and moving on is important, but its not easy (like they make it seem in their movies). Ming did the exact same thing to Mei that her mother did to her - and she didn't see that? If nothing is ever going to be good enough, you shouldn't push a child to be perfect. Healing can happen...but it takes time.
(Ming shouldn't need to apologize. She may have given her mother that scar, but it was Wu's controlling and overbearing nature that caused such an act.)
People may call the portrayal of Chinese culture in this movie racist or stereotypical; but it isn't if its all fact. Most families of Asian cultures are very controlling and pass that toxic quirk to their children. Parents shouldn't push their desires onto their children, because than the children never get to live their own lives. If your kids rebel, its most likely because you're refusing to listen to them.
If there's a sequel, I seriously hope that Disney doesn't tone down the problems and issues of growing up.
Spoilers....
I kind of disagree with the whole idea of Ming not needing to apologize; heck, that was one of the better parts of the film. Even if her mom "pushed" her into it, it was Ming who lost control. Her panda is something she has to accept responsibility for. Even if it was foisted upon her, Ming was the monster and scarred her mother for life.
That's why I hated why the resolution was to simply seal the panda away for her. None of the other pandas were that size or that malevolent, but given that sweeping the problem under the rug didn't work, that would be a sign that maybe forcing her to put the panda in a box isn't a good long-term solution. It would have been nicer if Mei had been able to start teaching Ming control the panda and maybe make it more manageable, giving a sense of intergenerational healing.
@@nangbaby I think that may be why hers was sealed in a tomagotchi. It allows her to get used to it Inna more controlled setting that doesn't topple buildings.
Idk I just think that may be a sign she'll get used to it, and understand it- but who knows, I don't think this movie will get a sequel, that'd be odd. I think Mei is already pretty good with her panda already so I'm not sure if anyone needs to train her in the first place, if anything she's fit to be the mentor lol
I like how ppl are calling the character design racist even though a majority of the film was created by Asian people.
I really liked this film. Recently it seems like studios are focusing on smaller scale stories, and that's fine.
I'd say if Encanto is a 9, Turning Red is a 7.8
I can't think of anything they could have changed, I found the "cringe moments" were also cute and heartwarming, and it made me admit that I was actually pretty normal for a middle schooler all along.
They could’ve gotten the message across better, but it was definitely good, 8.5
If Encanto is a 9, what is a 10?
@@SplotPublishing Wall-E.
@@SplotPublishing nothing
Encanto will prob be movie of the year now and Turning Red will definatelly be a nomination for next year hands down.
This film portrayed the middle school experience in the most realistic and relatable way, even if parts of us want to reject it
Honestly as a teenage lgbtq person with an extremely conservative mother who I'm terrified of disappointing or angering, I actually quite related to this film. Especially when it came to her mom eventually accepting her even if reluctantly.
That at the end of the day, no matter how much they fight, they love each other and yet Mei also isn't painted as the bad guy for rebelling or going against her parents (more like her mom)... in fact... they normalized it.
This was a film I legitimately needed and I'm also glad that Mei's friends didn't take a long time to forgive her, I understand them being upset, but I understood Mei's fear of losing her mom in that scene so much.
It's a scenario where you feel so powerless, you don't want to shift the blame but there's only so much she can do to other kids.. if she decided it was Mei's fault. Who knows the measures she would've taken. I know this wasn't about lgbtq+ but mentally, this is the message I needed to hear.
This is inside out except instead of her being a white american/canadian she is asian
literally focuses on tiger parents being the worst thing which ironically are the reason that the stereotype that asians have better grades.
@@crowmaster9652 huh one of the few times I actually check my notifications on time but I'm aware what the plot is about. Anyway. I'm not sure what you're explaining as my original comment was me talking about how *one* of the messages of the film has helped me even though it wasn't directed to me or the lgbtq community? Are you trying to make sure this isn't an Encanto where lgbtq people pushed their headcanons and side eyed the main plot which is about generational trauma (which god damn)? Or are you trying to critique the plot? I don't understand the message you're trying to send
@E L which is ironically not wrong, they both have bs premises that go nowhere
@@willop6591 tiger parents are worse than the parents from inside out whose decisions based on job promotion impeded a young child's mental state.
Basically the same problem difference is Riley actually learned something where as Mei Lee followed the stereotype and nothing actually changed
@@crowmaster9652 erm... I suppose I can see how you'd get that type of message however what type of lesson would you have liked Mei Lee to learn? Because a good part of the film is how she's terrified of getting out of her mother's good graces, then later on she starts letting herself risk upsetting her mom to do the things she wants to do. Granted a lesson on safety about going to a concert as four, alone, thirteen years old girls (especially one who can turn into a panda without meaning to but for other reasons as well) would've been good. The first thing I mentioned is what I took the lesson which Mei learned from all of this
"Why is this film getting so much hate?"
Because of stupid people mindlessly following pretentious dweebs who proclaim to be actual critics who state that this movie sucks?
The first time I saw the trailers I was put off a lot by the fact that they tried to show how "cool" and "streetwise" the main character was trying to be. I thought that it was just going to be a cringy film about superficial u.s. teenage feelings and drama, which didn't resonate with me, since I'm from a completely different culture. It is only thanks to the spoilers that I am starting to think that it might be a bit more enjoyable than I originally thought and am slowly starting to consider watching it.
Bootsa katsa bootsa katsa
PLEASE watch it! In my opinion it’s good, but if you don’t like it that’s ok! But I do REALLY recommend.
I was put off by the trailer, too. Just loud, frantic and obnoxious.
It's in Canada though & the main character is Chinese Canadian.
it’s really not good but the animation is really good and it’s a little fun to watch but very cringe also
This Movie was a Painful Reminder on how Puberty was when we were 13 During Middle school
growth spurts, Voice cracks, hair in........unknown areas muscle cramps.....yeah....
I love when Mei and her friends hug and there's this visible release of tension. And again when Ming and her mother embrace and reconcile. I've heard this film get compared to Encanto a lot, and honestly, I think the way Turning Red portrayed relief and acceptance was handled a little better than the "typical" happy ending of Encanto.
I really enjoyed the movie, I felt the characterrs were really well written, granted they were really goofy at times but that just added to my enjoyment of them
Anyone who says this is a bad movie, while I respect your decision and know we all have different opinions, I'm gonna have to majorly disagree with you
This movie sits as one of the best movies I've ever seen. Me personally I'd rank it among Spiderman into the Spider verse. Yes it's not as good but to me I see it as being on that level and if not fairly close.
This movie was like if Pixar and Studio Ghibli had a child, and i loved it
But for some reason people hate the movie is the same reason why you love it.
i really love this movie, it barely came out and people started hating it two weeks before it released...just sad.
I like this movie but if anything it’s kind of predictable (which isn’t bad).
Every movie is predictable. Specifics aside every story follows a similar plot line.
Take DCOMs for example no matter what the story is it'll always play out the same, especially if it's a trilogy with romance.
@{𝒯𝒽𝑒 𝒮𝒾𝓁𝓋𝑒𝓇 𝑀𝑜𝑜𝓃} at least towards the end it was very very predictable
@@DaeyVision nope
@@strickshot Do you mind explaining why?
@@DaeyVisionnot everything is predictable because not everything is the same genre, has the same thing that it wants to tell, it also depends on the writers to make something not predictable, which a lot of times there is something you can't predict
I was at Disney Yesterday and they had some turning red merch at my resort. I watched it the day before we left (Friday) i asked my mom if i could get a turning red shirt, and she said no because other people think the movie was bad. I honestly liked this movie and i dont understand why people dont like it.
one saying to call this movie to prevent hate.
Never judge a book by its cover
Someone made a good point. It’s a tween movie. My daughter and I loved this movie. Many of my friends said their sons hated it. I get that they can’t relate so they dislike the film.
Not relating doesnt mean you should hate it. If we always had that mindset humanity would be way worse than it is now. Them declining to have an open mind means they have other issues to deal with and clear bias.
@@Google_remote no one is obligated to enjoy a film. Many entertainment products are made to cater to specific niches (while others cater to broad appeal). Easy examples are horror films, not everyone can stomach them especially if they are gory. The other most obvious example is something with a lot of fanservice or wish fulfillment. It makes perfect sense for a woman to not enjoy a film where a schlubby male lead is fawned over by buxom and scantily clad vixens. While she can understand why a man would enjoy a film like that it is reasonable for her to not relate to the lead and reasonable for her to not enjoy that sort of content. I personally do not watch fan service anime for instance, I am not the target audience.
@@mirsolis4992 Yes but when you are a noticeable figure whos actions can greatly affect society's views, it really matters when you say anything.
@@Google_remote At what point did we discuss public figures? Even in the context of public figures we would be foolish to expect them to be moral exemplars all of the time. It is fine to not like the film, big deal.
@@mirsolis4992 Yeah it is, but the way he explained it in the video is like the movie is nothing but boring and unrealistic. It would be nice if he acknowledged the plot.
Why are people making fun of turning red’s art style but not Luca’s art style?
There the same style!
True
The art style is good but the movie is pretty bad
@ferret nah the other one had a girl character too
I loved it! I was impressed by the art style they chose, and the overall setting of 2002 Toronto. Plus, the movie's boyband is a nod to both Backstreet Boys and NSYNC which 90s kids can appreciate!
Nobody talked bad over Luca his style
Like Luca, Soul, and this movie all have very cartoony 3D styles, but those were praised for their looks.
Luca was awful
@@starsiadraws exactly, these three movies have an almost identical style, yet this is getting stoned for it
i wish they made a series
it's. not. enough.
It's a character driven, zero villian, creative passion story. That's... The foundation of Pixar... And the animation style was introduced in Luca, it's their new thing and finally sets them apart from Disney which ya know, was an issue for awhile. What the heck. And honestly, it's one of my favourite Pixar movies. The cringe is part of its authenticity and if you keep an open mind past the introduction it gets really really good. I love the aesthetic, the lively animation, the personality, the storytelling and depth. It stands, imo, amongst some of the big Pixar movies. Maybe it doesn't have the memorable scenes that make you cry like Up, or the unique story like Toy Story, or gay sea monsters (Luca is gay, you can't convince me otherwise) but it has its own merits and those are plentiful and significant. I think people just hate teenage girls and hate change, and Pixar is changing and this movie is unapologetically about a teen girl so... But people should pull their head in cause those are stupid reasons to hate a movie. You don't have to like it but liking it isn't bad either.
I don’t understand why people hate on it so much tbh, it’s literally about a girl growing up and accepting her self. It goes deeper then that with the generational trauma. I found the movie really relatable and many other kids did too, I get not liking the movie but down right calling it a bad film is not true. I’d say it’s just as good as the other films and it had a bigger impact on me then soul did since it was something I could relate to. Ofc that’s how I felt about the movie but I still think it had an impact on other kids too, so maybe adults should stop hating on a movie and keep their opinions to themselves.
people need to understand that pixar can't make sequels forever. we can't have toy story 17 and cars 19. sooner or later they need to make new franchises. i love turning red. it's actually my favorite pixar movie now.
I think this movie is stunning, from visuals to writing to characters, everything is so thought out and loved it’s insane. You can tell the crew worked really hard on this film. Also I think it’s pretty accurate, when I was 13 I acted like this, maybe I was more angsty but I mean nobody wants to watch a depressed teen get shot down for 2 hours. Anyways.. I love this movie
you're opinion is worth it. don't make spot-on opinions and then let the audience say they are trash and that it's OK. I mean, can't say nobody's opinion matters, but you made a spot on point about how everyone ELSE'S opinions are being hilariously harsh. Don't see where I can disagree. It's funny. For films, it's: "Stay the same, I love nostalgia, or ur trash.", and with gaming it's, "Keep adding new, gigantic, amazing updates every day (that are a whole lot of work but we don't care, we don't develop so we guess it's EASY) or ur old news and boring and garbage and we, the Internet, will TEAR YOU TO SHREDS!!!"
lol it’s not a bad film! it’s absolutely a genuine film with a story to tell and a few casts that i’d love to see again! Encanto and Turning Red are my two favorite films in the past 10 years.
Why do people hate turning red ?, it’s really good
I really doubted this movie. In the beginning I thought it wasn’t gonna be as good but actually WATCHING it and after saying: “damn son, that was pretty good.”
This movie in a nutshell : Encanto, but better (kinda)
I liked encanto more
Agreed.
When encanto came out it was good but I just hate it now
@@AngeI_dust0 Interesting. May I ask why you hate it now even if you liked it before?
I was thinking "Encanto, but modern and only one child with one power."
If people don't let Pixar or other studios experiment then, we will continue to be stuck in an endless cycle of remakes and sequels. I prefer a lot of the sequels Pixar has made over Turning Red but I prefer creativity to spread and experimented with even if the best results are not made.
We need to support quality original efforts by Pixar and other studios!!!!!!!
Another common criticism is that people couldn't relate to the movie because it's way too niche, and apparently only asian teen girls can enjoy it. But, like, i'm an adult white man and i loved the hell out of this movie. I've never seen a more accurate depiction of teenagers in a movie. I loved all the cringe because it was intentional and meant to add realism to the characters, and the movie has some great messages and an emotional core, just like any other great pixar film.
I like this movie much more then encanto, maybe its because i love the 2000s style
I love encanto. But if I had to choose between Turning Red and Encanto, I'd always go with turning red
@@nichtich3910 exactly
True I would go with turning red
Oh my god. We're talking about the 2000s as if it was sooo long ago. I'm old
This movie is cringe as fuck but I enjoy it more than encanto because of the cringe tbh
Encanto was also kinda cringe but not as much
I really liked the film, it wasn't a masterpiece but it was very good. I was a bit disapointed at the end. I think Ming should have keept her panda and learn to deal with it
i don’t think it’s bad, i just think that they spelled out the message a little bit too much and idk it just like to have more room for theorizing. i can definitely understand why so many ppl like it. it’s not bad just not my favorite either
the fact that this movie gets so much hate is due to a couple things but mostly misogyny. E.g. 'ew periods' and 'i do not feel related to this film' reviews from 30 something male "critics" (dudes whose career in film never took off so now they just talk shit about other people's work). The other part is just parents who realized they are pieces of shit but refuse to acknowledge it. Prove me wrong.
I’m going to be watching this movie tonight because it looks so good! I’m probably going to get cancelled for this but I liked Hotel Transylvania 4 and it got a lot of hate but was overall a 7/10 for me could’ve been better but was good
Have you watched the movie? Also did you enjoy it?
@@jojieanimations2887 I actually really liked it,It got a few laughs out me and was overall a great film! The Red Panda origin is fascinating! I’d definitely recommend to those who haven’t watched it yet!
@@pinapologist101 that's very good
It'd be silly to get cancelled for liking a movie... Unless it was legitimately disturbing. But this isn't! I'm happy you liked it, haven't watched it yet.
They say woke and sjw polluted film making, ignoring the fact that conservative are no different. The only thing that is stagnant and didn't change is what is dead.
"Turning Red teaches kids to rebel and disobey their parents!!1!!"
BRUH AS IF MULAN DIDN'T DO THE SAME THING! Mulan's father was supposed to be drafted in the war but due to his physical health, Mulan couldn't accept that. So she rebels against EVERYONE (especially since it takes place during a time in which women weren't allowed to participate in wars) by posing as a man and joins the war BEHIND HER PARENT'S BACK!
Lmao the double standards
As a weird kid growing up, it felt so nice to have that kind of representation. I really related to Mei as a character and about her strive to live up to her parents expectations of her, whist also not holding any resentment against her mom.
I actually enjoyed the movie, and as someone who's struggled with self worth and generational trauma, I felt quite understood.
I ADORED this movie!! I get that the plot about a group of squealy teen girls and their interests may not be for everyone, just like CARS wasn't for me because I couldn't care less about cars. But for myself I found it super relatable, funny, wonderfully weird and just plain FUN! So many movies take themselves so seriously, this one was just a pure good time! Just what I needed to have a laugh and some joy after two years of ongoing bad news and coronavirus.
Reading the comment I feel like the only girl who didn't see the period as a big deal. It was "hey mum this is red, I think I had my first period", end of the story. Really, it needs to be talked more because I don't get why it is treated as a taboo.
I’m kinda laughing at the “reasons” they think it’s bad, like oh so if a film has a female main character it’s “feminist” alright that totally makes sense
i hated it because mei and her friends were super cringe, like all the personalities sucked so bad, but the choker and she had and how at the end how she becomes a furry or niko whatever, it made me wanna die
so many boys in movies are super-uber cringe but girls don't say anything because they have been taught to hide their pandas. Super heroes are pretty lame and the costumes are geeky.
I absolutely loved Turning Red! ❤ Saw it for the first time last night (3/21/2022) last night and I just watched it again. I don't see anything wrong with it and I'm glad Pixar is making films like this now with relatable storylines for children about real life issues they face.
i think the hate either comes from parents annoyed at the fact that the movie includes topics of puberty and for some reason they are absolutely appauled by that, or from random people online who either havent watched it,or don't have strong opinions on it and just want to piggyback on the hate.
@KFC Man the whole thing is a metaphor for puberty.
A good reason why I hate this film is because its message is very cryptic and so specific to female teenagers. This film had a chance to reach female teeangers and also broaden its audiences for everyone. For a good example, a message could be like being yourself, freedom, whatever. Mei could've learned who she truly is, and what her panda side really means to herself. Instead she literally profits out of it just to visit a boy band. Mei's consequences feels so underwhelming and both overwhelming in this film, like at the start she gets all of these weird embarrassments and stuff. For example her at school from her mother, or her mother again going to the store clerk to confront him, those felt so out of line, like she got shat on from the beginning, but then by the second half of the film, she's not deserving the consequences she needs. For example sneaking behind her mother's back, lying, and more. This film's execution should've been better imo, and could've reached a broader audience, which Pixar is very good at, but this film felt too specific which made a general audience dislike it. Puberty imo should be talked about a bit more often than usual, and should be more normalized. This just felt too specific for a company that makes films G rated, this felt more into the teenager zone and doesn't feel like something Pixar would bravely try doing, but good for them. The movie in general is a good idea, and I'd say it doesn't deserve as much hate as it does, it just needs to be improved to reach a broader audience imo. Also the animation hate is so stupid, I personally like the cartoony style and quirky type they're trying to do, people are just now trying to find excuses why they hate the film. If you like the movie, good for you! :D This movie is great, and you should like it. I personally do not like it because this film is overly specific imo. Thanks for reading.
It was a pretty great movie up until the "getting rid of the panda" part. The morals are feel jumbled and it doesn't teach an end moral. What does the panda even stand for, after 1 hour and 30 minutes of Period references, Emotions, Puberty?
It feels like a film where the main character's bad actions are excused. Meimei, in panda form, quite literally gave a boy gigantic gashes going down his face, arms, and tore through his shirt, probably scratching his chest as well. She then goes on to run away to a concert, which in real life, is DANGEROUS. As a woman in college, 13 year old children do NOT have a clue about what happens to 13 year old girls who run away unaccounted for and unsupervised at concerts or raves.
"I'm 13, mom!"
What lesson does this teach? What's the point of this film? At the end, it doesn't hold morals for anyone of any age. It's a movie just to exist, which essentially places it on Spongebob's level. Yes, it's a film for kids/teens growing up that, for once, **isn't** about homecoming, prom, highschool valley girl drama, or anything inappropriate. That's good, and it's great, but above all, it teaches this:
1) Despite assaulting a bully and giving him permanent scars (they were erased 10 minutes later in the film, however, that's not how it is realistically) it's ok to keep your panda, even if it's a danger to other people.
1.5) The panda was not linked directly to "Repressing emotions" or "Repressing yourself." Everyone else in the family was normal, and functioned fine without the use of it, even in the end scene. Therefore, she should still be held accountable.
2) You can lash out and physically lunge at kids your age, and you can lie to your parents long term instead of having a healthy sit down about things that the parent do that upset the child.
3) When you don't get what you want, lie and do it behind your parent's back. Do step 4.
4) You can run away to a secret concert unsupervised and yell at your parents when they give you consequences for it.
5) Magic will happen, and instead of having a huge family fight, everyone will cry and make up about it instead of remembering the child's actions.
Realistically, she could have been kidnapped, she could have gone to jail or juvenile for assault, her parents could have been sued. Possibly even kicked out of school, but this isn't about reality. It's about teaching kids the world's only about them, and there's no one else to consider when you lash out, lie, and run away.
What movie DOES do strict parents and demonstrates the consequences of Children running away? Finding Nemo.
It shows the flaws in the parent, but also, the child. The child was lost, scared, confused, and that's the reality. Nemo could have died in a fish tank, died in captivity, essentially kidnapped, eaten, anything. Marlin regretted his actions the whole movie. There was growth, there was real substance, there was trust, and there were realistic consequences that children can understand.
You know one character in Finding Nemo, that had giant, lifelong gashes on him? Gill. His life was permanently debilitated because of it, and the scars never disappeared or magically healed. There were consequences for a character that were long lasting, even before the film started. That is how you place realism in a movie. That these things last forever.
Finding Nemo was everything that Turning Red lacked, and that's why we are comparing it. The animation quality and "Whimsical factor" both went up, while the actual writing dropped like an anchor in the sea.
@@pillowscout exactly what me and my wife said after the movie. finding movie did the overbearing parent/rebellious child so much better.
The panda is the passion that women have but are forced to hide so society and family can be the world we know today. If women did not hide/ignore their wild side the world would be more passionate and loving~
@@ladycanada35 So the passion comes out when a teen girl is embarrassed during class? It just seems like they couldn't figure out what the Panda stood for, and it changes every 20 minutes.
Turning Red made me laugh so much that it brought me joy which is rare for me to be happy with a great movie like this. People hating on this movie are just too inconsiderate that they compare this to real life like come on people, *IT'S A KIDS MOVIE.* I mean, I'm an adult and I enjoyed the movie, I understood the lore of the red panda, I enjoyed the characters and it's story. It shouldn't receive hate for what it speaks out for because it's the truth for early teens, it should be getting all the love in the world for all of the greatness that it's become. 😔 Maybe it's just me. Anyways, Turning Red's estimated DVD release date is on June 17th, 2022 everyone.
I personally found the movie ok. A good 6/10. It’s simple and straight to the point although some stuff doesn’t need to be there or doesn’t make sense. For example,what was the point of the grocery clerk scene with the mom? You already knew that she was overprotecting, it only comes up twice which are both jokes and stuff like that. The movie has a different style than most Pixar films although I do like the style if you don’t pause the movie. You are correct that if this came out on illumination this would be perfection.
I think that scene was actually pretty great, because not only was it the same level of cringe/horror as I felt watching the main character squeeze through a tiny gate and cut her back open in Ready or Not, it set up things for the kids at school to tease Meilin about, so that there was a buildup of feelings before she snapped
Because that scene is the trigger for the panda and shows the relationship between Ming and Mei :/
@@naolucillerandom5280 but it probably could have been done in a more believable and less drawn out way. Also I have never seen this thing before /:
Ppl need to stop freaking out over media that‘s targeting young girls. The idea that a film can be made for little girls breaking the heads of grown up idiots really is baffling to me. This just shows that we need more movies for girls because the lack of that is making people act really insane. This is a sign that there really is a serious lack of big picture media made for little girls and that is a serious problem. When a movie depicting the lives of young girls is breaking people‘s brains, then we still got a lot of work to do for society to respect women and girls in our society.
I haven't felt this much excitement for an animated film since Spider-Verse. While Turning Red is not quite on that level of Spider-Verse, it's personality makes up for it big time.
animation is becoming more mature each year adult familys need to understand its not a baby medium anymore as it once was back durin the 60s its for all ages this movie has more goin for it than people cant see. turning reds cast & characters has a beautiful diverse cast 😊
I actually really liked this film! it was sooo cute looking, the storyline was pretty relatable with my parents and letting go, and it was super funny. I don’t think Pixar has dropped the ball on good movies since the good dinosaur, people just hating.
I can't help but wonder if people would still hate the movie if it was about a 13-year-old BOY and his relationship with his father and the final conflict taking place at say, a baseball game instead of a girl and her mother and the final conflict taking place at a boy band concert. People tend to get weird talking about what 13-year-old girls have to deal with during puberty, ie periods, and a lot of people LOVE hating on things marketed to teenage girls, ie boy bands.
This movie was quite accurate at portraying a 13-year-old girl, thinking she's grown up, her friends and obsessions being her life, trying to find her own identity outside of her family, and the changes that come from being a girl going through puberty.
And maybe if this movie existed when I was 13, maybe I would've felt less shame at having periods. It was just something that wasn't talked about and was considered shameful to talk about even though they're totally normal.
Anyway, I think people complain that it's not Pixar enough because they don't want to admit that they're uncomfortable with a movie that deals with girls going through puberty, even though the main themes are something a lot of people could relate to.
I really loved this film. I hope they turn it into a series so we can see Mel grow more alongside the Panda. I know Pixar dosent normally branch out their movies into sequels or series. But I can picture different episodes having Mei deal with more things that kids growing up have to deal with. Like hygiene, crushes, rebellion against authority, new interests in life, etc.
I liked the art and the premise; what bothered me was the resolution. I'll need to see it again to really figure out my thoughts more fully, but on first watch this felt shallow in kind of the same way _Grease_ feels shallow. Two people are in conflict; one changes to suit the other, while the other just doubles down and gets their way. That hurts because that's not how healthy conflict resolution works - even if one person is _more right,_ there are always things we can learn from the other "side." And the movie did a good job of showing us the flaws in both perspectives, but then the ending just decided to side 100% with Mei and decide that her mother was just out of control and that Mei was right about everything.
Thank you for encapsulating precisely one of the biggest problems with this film. It leans too hard into "Mei is right and you need to let go" while ignoring how this girl got off scott free for making some horrible decisions and, yet, at the same time undercutting its own message by saying "you can choose to keep the panda or to lose the panda and both are equally valid" even though bottling it in is what caused the third act to happen. Basically, Mei got her way and no one really learned.
Heck, at least Teen Wolf had Scott Howard learn he couldn't use "the wolf" to find happiness and that movie is 35 years old.
Ofc its my opinion, but me and my mom didnt like it bc we thought it was a little boring, i thought the ending was good, (almost broke me to tears tbh bc of how i saw it, i think i would have cried if i was up in my room) anyway like yk the end where mei is in the bamboo forest? i liked that part alot, from there till the end, bc some of the things she said in the bamboo forest, i related to alot, completely different topic of she was talking abt for me i saw what she said as a transgender thing (since im yk trans wtv) and the whole movie is like based on a mother accepting her child for who they are and what they want? like ''my body, my choice'' ''my panda, my choice'' which is where my whole trans thing i could relate too with, i was talking to my friend abt it, BUT ANYWAYS, like i thought it was a little dumb? Not in any offensive way, but that pretty much the whole thing was them just wanting to go to a concert and ofc other things happened that were meaningful and everything, its just over not being able to see a concert? and idk i just found it a bit boring, it was cute for sure, but just not one of my favorites, please dont hate on me for not liking it, you will get completely ignored and i wont even tolerate with ur comment- i didnt say anything hateful abt the movie or anyone, just not one of my favorite thats all, and ig thanks? if u even bothered to read this.
It's OK for people to hate the movie, as long as it isn't for stupid reasons like "ewwww, it's too woke!!"
They’re upset about girls going through puberty. I got my period when I was nine years old, and the doctor said it was normal. I had a friend who didn’t get hers till high school. I don’t see the issues with this movie at all.
I enjoyed the movie but going into it I thought it would be worst than it actually was.
I honestly loved it. Also as a bts fan, TaeYoung of 4Town just makes me so happy. His name is based on Taehyung and his design on Jimin and I just love that so much!!!
Went into the film with a shrug and a wish that it was okay at best... left wanting more and questioning if I'm a furry. 10/10 would watch again and again
Maybe, I'm biased because I relate to the main character very much, but I think the hate is overblown. It was a good movie imo!
I dont think many PPL realise that the red bear is a metaphor for her getting her period.
So the movie is basically about what a teenage girl goes through
The answer is sexism. Its a story about a grip and girl needs. Therefore its bad.
I can't disagree that's a component. And I'm an old man. But I have a daughter, and she went through some things as an adolescent.
That scene at the bathroom door as Mei's mother initially thinks Mei's menses has started, and the father freezes in mid-step and fades backward...I choked laughing for five minutes. We had to pause the video.