The Brexit deal explained: is this the end of seven years of political mayhem?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 мар 2023
  • This week, Rishi Sunak agreed a new Brexit deal with the European Union: the Windsor framework.
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    Seven years after Britain voted in the referendum, is this the end of protocol conversation, trade deals, backstops, and late night votes? Does this mean we can finally all stop talking about Brexit? What exactly does the Windsor framework do? How is it different from before? And is this really the end of the Conservatives’ decades-long battle over its relationship with Europe?
    In today's Fourcast, our political editor Gary Gibbon delves into the details, ponders what Sunak did that others could not, and whether the DUP’s official silence means this may not be over yet. Oh and also - what about Boris Johnson?
    Producer: Freya Pickford
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Комментарии • 524

  • @stealthbum34
    @stealthbum34 Год назад +138

    ‘The amount of checks the EU was going to throw at goods…’ No. the amount of checks REQUIRED of ANY third country exporting goods into the single market. The media in the UK really is a joke.

    • @djsmithe
      @djsmithe Год назад +17

      I agree. It's embarrassing to watch any "news" program from the UK these days.
      After the Brexit referendum, nothing is the UK's fault.

    • @davidedwards1336
      @davidedwards1336 Год назад +6

      Has brexit been put to bed you ask, the only thing put to bed is the tory party, PERMANENTLY.

    • @sparrow_6177
      @sparrow_6177 Год назад

      @@davidedwards1336 I sure hope so. Problem is, do you think Kier Stamer and his bunch of 'groupie's' will do any better? I don't think any of them are to be trusted.
      If the public done half of the things they do, we would be locked up !!!!!

    • @WookiRahh
      @WookiRahh Год назад

      always have been they take 1 word out a whole sentence and make thier own sentence from that one word quite ammusing really

    • @davidedwards1336
      @davidedwards1336 Год назад

      @@sparrow_6177 👍

  • @grateful277
    @grateful277 Год назад +45

    At its core that was the problem - Boris had zero credibility and his word or signature is worth nothing

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Год назад +3

      Never ever trust a Tory

    • @flemlion13
      @flemlion13 Год назад +1

      Add to that what he just repeated, he always wanted something else, but never said what that was, just something else

    • @kasegiyabu5030
      @kasegiyabu5030 Год назад

      @@Redsleather Believe you genuinely that the opposition is more trustworthy? In terms of integrity, Starmer and Johnson are political twins.

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Год назад +3

      @@kasegiyabu5030 I know which party has lowered my living standards every time they have been in power and I know which party gave me a better standard of life. Johnson and the Tories offer me nothing but more despair, misery and worry, they are not for the working class of this country and never have been, never will be. Starmer may not be perfect but I trust him over that proven liar, cheat and opportunist A. De Pfeffel Johnson

    • @kasegiyabu5030
      @kasegiyabu5030 Год назад

      @@Redsleather When Labour formed the government in the zeroes, they used debt to create a plethora of cash-taking services. All of these placed an annual call on the nation's money, creating an enormous current account deficit. Your higher standard of living created a situation where future generations would be saddled with a huge drain on their finances. Essentially, you lived off the efforts of those coming after you. Reading the history of UK governments, it's obvious that Labour's repeated mismanagement of the nation's economy has had always serious consequences. I doubt a future Labour government will be any different, offering bribes to those with a parasitic streak. "Live now and screw the future" is Labour's apparent agenda.

  • @EdwardRLyons
    @EdwardRLyons Год назад +11

    The Unionists complain that the NI Protocol meant NI was being treated differently from the rest of the UK. And indeed it was. But, NI has *always* been treated differently from the rest of the UK!
    It was treated differently by the Government of Ireland Act, which imposed partition on Ireland.
    It was treated differently by having its own parliament for decades before devolution was granted to Scotland and Wales.
    It was treated differently by allowing the NI Government to discriminate directly against the nationalist/Catholic population for decades, with Westminster refusing to get involved.
    It was (and is) treated differently by giving the Unionists an effective veto over everything and anything that affects NI.
    The Unionists are happy for NI to be treated differently -- as long as it suits them.

  • @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo
    @Pierluigi_Di_Lorenzo Год назад +32

    4:46 All of this was already proposed by the EU commission in 2021, but the UK parliament (incl Labour and DUP) was not interested. See:
    'Protocol on Ireland/Northern Ireland: Commission proposes bespoke arrangements to benefit Northern Ireland'

    • @sabinenadal8470
      @sabinenadal8470 Год назад +1

      Exactly, it's funny to see the Prime Minister triumph as if Britain had "snatched" a deal from the EU. This is exactly what has been proposed several times by the European Commission and has been rejected by the British government each time (including Rishi Sunak)

  • @AutisticCumsock
    @AutisticCumsock Год назад +26

    I have a feeling this will not put an end to the brexit debate in the UK because now Northern Ireland will be a constant reminder of the benefits of full EU single market access, in the context of a stagnating GB economy

  • @arghjayem
    @arghjayem Год назад +30

    I’ll save everyone 20 minutes…..NOPE.😂

  • @Neil-qg9cw
    @Neil-qg9cw Год назад +33

    Obviously not. 'Sunak's deal' is just what the EU proposed about 3 years ago with some extremely minor tweaks. This is all propaganda to make Rishi look competent when he is clearly out of his depth. He made that clear with his speech boasting about how much better NI was for being in the single market (so why not the rest of the UK?) The DUP won't go back to Stormont under SF as FM, it had little to do with the protocol. If anything we're right in the middle of the big Brexit lie being unravelled right before our eyes. It's never going away until we're back in the EU, because Brexit will continue to be an absolutely pointless disaster for the UK until then.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Год назад

      I like the thought of rejoining but it can never happen. It's political suicide for it to be even mentioned. Racists like Farrage are still pulling the strings in the background. Europeans don't want us back, even on worse terms. It won't happen.

    • @alexanderthegreat7213
      @alexanderthegreat7213 Год назад

      @@user-bc2zu5dw5d desire for sovereignty = bigotry? Sovereign countries cannot be controlled by anyone but un-elected bureaucrats deciding what is right for them? Can you see your own narrow, unchallenged way of seeing things? Is NZ, Australia, Canada bigoted for not wanting to be anything less than sovereign territories? Are you that closed minded that you just accept what you are told to believe? Do you know why Macron won't give France a referendum on EU membership? He told Andrew Marr it's because he knows they'd vote to leave. You want to believe that all of Europe are united overwhelming about European membership, but they aren't. I believe the EU are pushing propaganda that there is overwhelming support by all citizens for this project when it is obvious that there is not, yet they talk about one of their main values being democracy yet won't give their citizens a referendum on membership. Do you think that is fair? Isn't this just control? And if you're honest with yourself - if you didn't support the project would you not likely be inclined to admit that it's undemocratic? Is it not your bias that is preventing you from admitting or even seeing that?

    • @DPK12
      @DPK12 Год назад

      Neil you only got 24 likes as people don’t want to read more than 50 words

  • @kilius5907
    @kilius5907 Год назад +8

    Always a joy to listen to Gary Gibbon, arguably the best political analyst in Westminster.

  • @levenscott645
    @levenscott645 Год назад +7

    Always rewarding listening to Gary.

  • @BTG07
    @BTG07 Год назад +23

    I love that everybody seems to forget about Gibraltar.

    • @maneshipocrates2264
      @maneshipocrates2264 Год назад +2

      Gibraltar is a UK lackey.

    • @jonibz1456
      @jonibz1456 Год назад +3

      Gibraltar is going to be part of the schengen area which has been arranged by the E.U. to make things work there.

    • @windupmerchant1679
      @windupmerchant1679 Год назад +2

      Gibraltar is not as tricky as NI when you have loyalist and republican groups waiting for an excuse to use a border as a means to violence.

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 Год назад

      Spain hasn't!.

    • @franciscouderq1100
      @franciscouderq1100 Год назад

      …and other UK territories

  • @warmachineuk
    @warmachineuk Год назад +14

    So the ERG are exhausted by reality and knowledge that the public are also exhausted. They only won a hard Brexit and a trade agreement that let's Britain deregulate as much as it wants. They only lost the right to deregulate in Northern Ireland. There'll be a permanent reminder of what Single Market access can provide.

  • @huwzebediahthomas9193
    @huwzebediahthomas9193 Год назад +42

    Almost 13 years of Tory, and here we are.

    • @thinkingbig2280
      @thinkingbig2280 Год назад +2

      Exactly

    • @icarus877
      @icarus877 Год назад +1

      Tory yes but with socialist policies, no wonder we are in such a huge mess.

    • @Neil-qg9cw
      @Neil-qg9cw Год назад +8

      ​@@icarus877 Socialism isn't giving all the taxpayers money to big business ffs.

    • @888ssss
      @888ssss Год назад +1

      and labour. like gordon brown or tony blair.

    • @Lostouille
      @Lostouille Год назад +5

      ​@@icarus877 the reason why you started talking about brexit was because the EU started a proposition about not giving massive cut taxes to the biggest business . And years later you end up with Truss and her mini-budget (so she doesn't want to distribute money around all of you 😂) not so socialist....

  • @pauldonvito6169
    @pauldonvito6169 Год назад +19

    No, it hasn't been put to bed. The economic turmoil had only started and will bake itself deeper into the British economy. I'm truly worried for the UK's future. Desperately hope I'm wrong..

    • @onlyme8117
      @onlyme8117 Год назад

      One Barrister who has scrutinised this " deal" said he would not touch it.its a bag of sticks. The indian chappy is aiding the EU to keep their clutches around the UK throats. Now we know why the indaian chappy refused to cut vat and CT. The EU would not let him. We are hostage until we leave the ECJ

    • @icarus877
      @icarus877 Год назад +1

      Oh I am very worried we have had 25 years of socialist policies that look set to continue.

    • @Neil-qg9cw
      @Neil-qg9cw Год назад

      ​@@icarus877 Shut up you gammon, you don't even understand what socialism is.

    • @alexanstey1742
      @alexanstey1742 Год назад +9

      ​@@icarus877 how do you work that one out? What socialist policies? Do you even understand what socialism is?

    • @Lostouille
      @Lostouille Год назад +9

      ​@@alexanstey1742 you know Tatcher the socialist 🤭🤭🤭😂

  • @andrewjones-productions
    @andrewjones-productions Год назад +21

    Sunak deserves some credit for putting his head down and going about this in an astonishingly efficient manner. Nevertheless, as many are pointing out, all that he has ultimately done is agree to what the EU had initially proposed and clearing up a mess that he was party to creating. I'll also give him some credit for cunningly calling it the Windsor Framework and indirectly involving the king in an attempt to win over the unionists. However, he has simultaneously demonstrated Westminster's lack of understanding of any part of the union that isn't England and has failed miserably to understand that the only king that the stubborn Dinosaur Umbrage Party recognise is King Billy, William III or William of Orange. So whilst I give Sunak some points, it still only amounts to about 5/100.

    • @user-mg3xr9tz7m
      @user-mg3xr9tz7m Год назад +1

      So Sunak that defended, voted for and helped implement Boris oven ready deal AND brexit in general?
      This Sunak?

  • @fasold2164
    @fasold2164 Год назад +11

    There are occasional "threats" that GB might return to the EU in the next 10 to 15 years. I hope this will never happen. I remember the smirking face of Mr. Farage and his abusive addresses in the European Parliament only too well...

    • @lenrman969
      @lenrman969 Год назад +7

      And the grotesque Anne Widdicome gloating......

    • @rok1475
      @rok1475 Год назад +4

      Keeping UK “on a leash” is politically beneficial for EU.
      UK’s position (economic and political) will continue to decline for every EU citizen to see.
      All demagogues yapping about leaving EU in 2016 changed their slogans to “stay in but need to reform EU”.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Год назад +6

      As a British person I can only apologise for the whole thing. Please remember half the people in the UK wanted to stay. But I don't think we will be back, not in my lifetime. Millions of people in the UK wish we hadn't left, but most of them don't want to go back now anyway. The world has changed and it can't go back. It's a sad situation for those of us in the UK who wanted to stay. But it can't be fixed.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Год назад +1

      @@rok1475 the UK will have lower growth than comparable economies yes. Any decline is only relative. Most likely we will continue to stagnate economically. Personally I don't see this as a catastrophe at all. We need more equal distribution of wealth and less greed.

    • @frankthetank5708
      @frankthetank5708 Год назад +3

      ​@@Purple_flower09
      Leaving the EU was about to allow more greed and tax evasion.
      Therefore your hopes are somewhat ridiculous.
      The poor will get relatively poorer, the rich will get more of the wealth produced.

  • @sararichardson737
    @sararichardson737 Год назад +1

    Good work Gibbon. Thank you.

  • @cormacmacdonncha1052
    @cormacmacdonncha1052 Год назад +6

    Excellent commentary by Channel 4 on Brexit as usual!

  • @mollypenwhistle7918
    @mollypenwhistle7918 Год назад +4

    Have I remembered correctly that the Northern Irish wanted to stay in the EU?

  • @gingeralex4009
    @gingeralex4009 Год назад +1

    Whoever came up with "FourCast" needs a raise 👍

  • @conalcorbally3001
    @conalcorbally3001 Год назад +5

    So British companies that want to sell hassle free to EU markets will have to relocate to NI. After so many have already relocated to the republic.
    This whole Brexit madness is working out great for the island of Ireland. Not so great for Britain...

    • @maatira
      @maatira Год назад

      You said it. NI will soon be the land of opportunities on which the businesses of Parliament members are cashing on. Only the ordinary british man suffers .

  • @johnhobbes2268
    @johnhobbes2268 Год назад +10

    Wow, I'm used to more quality from channel 4. Most points were already mentioned in the other comments. The biggest one is obviously that the "lane system" was already proposed in the past so the whole analysis is built on a wrong premise.

    • @fang_xianfu
      @fang_xianfu Год назад +2

      Plus the way they're presenting this like it's *the* Brexit deal that puts this issue to bed... the only thing this answers is some of the remaining questions about Northern Ireland, but it doesn't make anyone less upset about it and it doesn't mean Brexit won't continue to hurt.

  • @johnkeenlyside993
    @johnkeenlyside993 Год назад +1

    Brilliant journalism, much appreciated

  • @jank6340
    @jank6340 Год назад +6

    The deal seems to make Northern Ireland better place to invest than GB!

    • @frankthetank5708
      @frankthetank5708 Год назад

      That's what in the interest of the EU, of course.

  • @andressanchezcasado4433
    @andressanchezcasado4433 Год назад +12

    EU cradle of human rights

    • @colinwishbone4437
      @colinwishbone4437 Год назад

      Said the same in1936 about the 3rd reich ,this is the start of a 4th Reich

    • @geezerbutler4582
      @geezerbutler4582 Год назад

      Fourth Reich and Roll?
      Great album by the Residents

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 Год назад

      @@colinwishbone4437 Bullshit and you know it!.

  • @markstill515
    @markstill515 Год назад +1

    It’s a temp deal that will need renegotiation in 3 years there’s also 5 other things that need agreement

  • @syedmaricar9946
    @syedmaricar9946 Год назад +5

    At least he made everyone smile

  • @isensiblehumanist993
    @isensiblehumanist993 Год назад

    Very comprehensive analysis.

  • @nickbarton3191
    @nickbarton3191 Год назад +1

    Nope, this is just the beginning of repairing the damage.

  • @conorfurlong
    @conorfurlong Год назад +5

    Brexit hasn’t even fully begun. Some of the changes from the future relationship agreement are yet to kick in. So buckle up.

  • @VolkerHett
    @VolkerHett Год назад +29

    When memory serves me, then the red and green lane and the trusted trader stream was on the table in 2019. But the then PM wanted to give trusted trader status to everybody and his dog who asked for it and couldn't or wouldn't supply relevant data to the EU. Now we have what the EU was asking for in 2019, we can see this as a win for the UK, but I doubt it's good enough for the DUP. They probably want 1. Minister forever, too.

    • @John-sp9kw
      @John-sp9kw Год назад

      Let the dog see the rabbit might help

    • @franciscouderq1100
      @franciscouderq1100 Год назад

      Personally I want to see the full implementation of this before making a judgement.
      Signing documents never meant much recently to the UK therefore action will show the full extend of the UK good will.

  • @midlandgeordie
    @midlandgeordie Год назад +2

    Hopefully not ..everywhere in the UK needs access to EEC markets!!!
    Brexit,self imposed madness!!

  • @HH-hd7nd
    @HH-hd7nd Год назад +2

    And here is the problem with the red and green lanes: As we all know that the UK is not trustworthy at all a system like this allows the smugglers in the UK to declare that their goods are destined for NI while in reality they plan to export to Ireland.
    I have to say that your wording is unacceptable btw: The EU doesn't "throw" checks at the UK - these are just third country rules implemented, simple as that. These are the rules for every third country.

  • @Driver2616
    @Driver2616 Год назад +9

    I’ve been to England many times during my life for work and leisure and visiting family. Last time was two months ago. I’ve watched on over the years, particularly the last fifteen years or so, as that country has slowly decimated itself. Right now I feel that it is appropriate to describe England as a complete dive. That sounds harsh, I know. But that’s what I’ve witnessed…. I’m just glad that that I don’t live there.

    • @DPK12
      @DPK12 Год назад +3

      That’s why so many English live in Perth Australia

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 Год назад +1

      @@DPK12 Australia is far from perfect and there are far more Australians living in the UK than Brits. living in Australia.

    • @billpugh58
      @billpugh58 Год назад +2

      @@fitzstv8506 1.2 million Brits live in Australia, 170 thousand Australians live in the UK.

    • @eddiecalderone
      @eddiecalderone Год назад

      If the U.K. which includes England was such a dive why around 6 million eu citizens applied for U.K. settlement status after Brexit? And the thousands that risk their life to cross the channel?

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 Год назад

      @@eddiecalderone : I don’t know the answer to that question. I don’t know why. I’m just saying what I see…

  • @grahamvincer
    @grahamvincer Год назад +3

    It's great listening to Gary. What a well educated and informed guy.

  • @georgebrowne5935
    @georgebrowne5935 Год назад

    Honesty is always the Best Policy over the long term.
    Those not happy with the Winsor Deal should learn from this lesson.

  • @eamonnleyden7040
    @eamonnleyden7040 Год назад +2

    Just you lot stop using us Irish in your Tory fight

  • @ultanbeare
    @ultanbeare Год назад +2

    What did the working class Brit gain from leaving the EU .. absolutely nothing was in their favour leaving ..Am so glad to be still in a member nation with the longitude European citizenship a human right..to reside to work or to later retire ..in any member nation ..to be legally equal European citizen protected by European law.. no barriers in wait .

    • @Driver2616
      @Driver2616 Год назад +1

      Correct.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Год назад

      Small groups of workers such as truck drivers get paid more because people from Poland are not allowed in.
      I'm against Brexit and just providing a bit of info.

  • @raymondwebb4179
    @raymondwebb4179 Год назад

    Cannot work no one would want a single market after seeing how well we are doing without? In the mainland!

  • @peterellis4982
    @peterellis4982 Год назад

    No

  • @Skylark_Jones
    @Skylark_Jones Год назад +1

    No. NI isn't the whole of the UK! What about the rest of Britain? We still have the same hard Brexit everywhere else. And if the Brexit Bonfire Bill succeeds in getting passed through Parliament it will make everything far worse.

  • @BenMooreBeanmimo
    @BenMooreBeanmimo Год назад

    While the politics surrounding the Windsor Framework is explained, the details of the Windsor Framework is not actually explained here (beyond green lane/Red lane/Stormont Brake i.e. what we have been already told). Slightly misleading headline.

  • @rocarolan2003
    @rocarolan2003 Год назад +5

    The withdrawal agreement will need to be renegotiated every number of years. So no. It's never ending I'm afraid.

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 Год назад

      Only until the UK rejoins the single market!

  • @DaveATKIN
    @DaveATKIN Год назад

    It's not even the beginning.

  • @smoozerish
    @smoozerish Год назад +2

    Flat earther DUP taking time to consider their next move........let's face it, the thoughts for them of playing second fiddle to Sinn Fein in power is their worst nightmare.

  • @niravelniflheim1858
    @niravelniflheim1858 Год назад +8

    Sounds like Northern Ireland could be an interesting economic zone to set up a business? Could be a real win. And isn't it time NI caught a break for once? I really hope it works out for them... must confess I have my hopes up. Fingers crossed, eh!

    • @sabinenadal8470
      @sabinenadal8470 Год назад +3

      the agreement is ONLY for goods. It depends on what kind of business. For example, if you have a business of milk or sausages in NI and if you want to sell your milk or sausages in EU (Republic of Ireland for example), you will have to comply with the standards of the European Union and its regulations. And then it only works with goods, not with services or finance, here the EU has been very clear and that's normal, it does not want to endanger its internal market

    • @niravelniflheim1858
      @niravelniflheim1858 Год назад +2

      @@sabinenadal8470 I see. Thanks!

    • @eddiecalderone
      @eddiecalderone Год назад

      @@niravelniflheim1858
      You are aware that Northern Ireland don’t want to break away?

    • @dvidclapperton
      @dvidclapperton Год назад

      @@eddiecalderone
      It hasn't been put to a vote in a border poll yet.

    • @eddiecalderone
      @eddiecalderone Год назад

      @@dvidclapperton
      In 2022 there was an election for the Northern Ireland general assembly. Unionist parties won more seats than the nationalists and marginally higher number of votes, that answers your statement.

  • @lostworkshop134
    @lostworkshop134 Год назад +1

    I got an idea. How about giving Northern Ireland to …….. Ireland 🇮🇪?

  • @thespartan8476
    @thespartan8476 Год назад +1

    It may not be the end of Brexit but it's the end of the UK, indeed.

  • @trigodave01
    @trigodave01 Год назад +1

    Good, informative and interesting discussion. “Great Britain” is ok to say. Its one half of The United Kingdom of Great. Britain and Northern Ireland

  • @estraume
    @estraume Год назад +5

    Rishi might be one of the better prime ministers for the past few years.

    • @mickeypye2593
      @mickeypye2593 Год назад

      😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

    • @lukaszzaremba7642
      @lukaszzaremba7642 Год назад +3

      How dare you ! Boris was the best prime minister in million years. And your late monarch died peacefully knowing that the pound is safe in incompetent hands of Mary Truss.

    • @mickeypye2593
      @mickeypye2593 Год назад

      @@lukaszzaremba7642 😆😆😆😆😆😆

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Год назад

      Unelected Sunak is as vile as the other 4 failures before him

    • @geezerbutler4582
      @geezerbutler4582 Год назад +3

      Not exactly difficult after Cameron, May, Johnson and Truss …

  • @ajw9533
    @ajw9533 Год назад

    I thought the TCA had to be renegotiated every few years, thus proving that Brexit is not, and can never be 'done'. Am I wrong? Please keep replies polite.

  • @gwenwalravens8030
    @gwenwalravens8030 Год назад

    So all of a sudden they are going to solve an issue they were unable and unwilling to solve since 2016? As a reminder: the EU has pointed at that issue since the very first Brexit negotiations and have always said they were willing to make sacrifices to solve it. The only reason it isn't solved is because the UK refused to do so. If Rishi is resolving the matter, that's not a miracle. It is not because the EU are finally agreeing with UK demands. The EU lost hope that the UK was willing to solve the matter, ever.

  • @michaelmather7352
    @michaelmather7352 Год назад +2

    looks like a ready meal deal as been done and everybody is sat down at the table 😊

    • @andrewjones-productions
      @andrewjones-productions Год назад +1

      Not quite everyone. The DUP are yet to arrive and will likely phone the hosts to say that 'they don't like what's on the menu' and cancel.

  • @susansantapola
    @susansantapola Год назад +1

    Sunak has merely taken up the EU deal which was offered two years ago and turned down. He is trying to take some kind of glory from this he even praised the fantastic single market. Unbelievable.

  • @robertwilkes2105
    @robertwilkes2105 Год назад +2

    Still no sound.....m

  • @japfourme381
    @japfourme381 Год назад

    Not if the DUP don’t agree to it!!

  • @gohfi
    @gohfi Год назад

    Get your facts right!
    The red and green lane thing was first proposed by the EU months ago, the UK rejected it then.

  • @indricotherium4802
    @indricotherium4802 Год назад +8

    Sorry, guv, but if I send a box of Keir Starmer Holding Union Flag figurines to a consignee in Belfast, how do I know he ain't gonna pop straight over the border and flog 'em to some street trader geezer in Dublin?

    • @stiofain88
      @stiofain88 Год назад +3

      Because no one in Ireland would buy them?

    • @geezerbutler4582
      @geezerbutler4582 Год назад

      Slab Murphy was doing this for decades when the UK was in the EU. Look up fuel duty and VAT cross border arbitrage in Ireland

    • @indricotherium4802
      @indricotherium4802 Год назад

      @@geezerbutler4582 : I don't know him - he wasn't one of my consignees. I'm just about to launch a variation on the figurine - Keir Starmer Holding Union Flag and Flag of Israel. Do you think Slab will be interested?

    • @geezerbutler4582
      @geezerbutler4582 Год назад

      @@indricotherium4802 No but he might kneecap you - allegedly …

    • @indricotherium4802
      @indricotherium4802 Год назад

      @@geezerbutler4582 : Ah! Associate of Johnson and Raab maybe.

  • @jaykenny4205
    @jaykenny4205 Год назад +7

    Open Question....
    As Northern Ireland is within the Single Market.
    Do the Northern Irish citizens, with British only Passports, have freedom of movement within the EU..?
    And if so, how is that monitored by the EU..?

    • @superhumantrueman
      @superhumantrueman Год назад +4

      As far as I know if you are born before 2005 you can claim Irish Citizenship, which does give you freedom of movement within the EU. If they only have a British passport then they do not.

    • @topthecat2259
      @topthecat2259 Год назад

      Northern Ireland only has freedom of movement for goods. In reality anyone travelling from GB and Ireland to the continent always had a passport check if flying.
      Edit: I'm not sure if there are passport checks at Irish ports to Europe but any UK citizen can travel visa free in Europe for upto 180days.

    • @topthecat2259
      @topthecat2259 Год назад +2

      ​@@superhumantrueman NI citizens have dual nationality and can claim Irish citizenship since 2005. I have both a UK and Irish passport.

    • @imastaycool
      @imastaycool Год назад +10

      With British only passports? Hahaha
      Most now have an Irish passport, even the unionist politicians admitted to signing multiple Irish passport applications regularly.
      They hate the Irish, but love our passport 🤦‍♂️🤣

    • @georgebrowne5935
      @georgebrowne5935 Год назад +3

      To answer your question. NO.
      The Six Counties are ONLY in the Single Market for Goods.

  • @sandrabrowne2350
    @sandrabrowne2350 8 месяцев назад

    Even 6 months later the special arrangements for Northern Ireland are nor enough for DUP take note British Taxpayer!

  • @user-mg3xr9tz7m
    @user-mg3xr9tz7m Год назад

    How can a question like this be asked? They know perfectly well its NOT finished?
    When are the border checks from EU to the UK being implemented? oh thats right the supply shortages would become so obvious the public would no longer accept being gaslit
    What about the Financial Services and the EURO clearing houses pushed to 2025??? Per bank of England moving from the UK to the EU between 30 and 80 TRILLION pounds??
    What about the regulatory institutions that are supposed to regulate what the EU no longer does in the UK?? When are they becoming fully functional??
    Think there are a few more things but think these are probably the biggest ones

  • @chriswatkin5476
    @chriswatkin5476 Год назад

    How do other countries outside the EU manage to import goods to the EU, like Turkey to Greece, do they have to do all the customs checks ?

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 Год назад

    It caught them out when we voted to leave & there's going to be difficulties indefinitely into the future due to it

  • @jph2856
    @jph2856 Год назад

    Its ironic Northern Ireland is Luxembourg

  • @neilbathe7752
    @neilbathe7752 Год назад +1

    Lets decide how objective Gary Gibbon may be... "Gibbon (born 15 March 1965) was educated at The John Lyon School, in Harrow in West London and read History at Balliol College, Oxford, where he was awarded a first class degree" (Wikipedia) - compared with "Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson (born 19 June 1964) attended Eton College, and studied Classics at Balliol College, Oxford" (Wikipedia) - so, without a doubt, a truly independent thinker with no links whatsoever to the former PM, no siree, nothing to see here...

  • @MrCEllis-jm9zt
    @MrCEllis-jm9zt Год назад

    THE DEAL IS A TOTAL OVERSOLD SHAM !

  • @robertmarshall7806
    @robertmarshall7806 Год назад +2

    Don’t believe a word Sunak says!

  • @sharonprice42
    @sharonprice42 Год назад +1

    In Boris we will never trust

  • @roberthunter4618
    @roberthunter4618 Год назад

    There is no way the DUP can sign upto this Protocol 2.0 deal. There are still checks on trade, EU law, ECJ, and the Act of Union still has not been reinstated.

    • @fitzstv8506
      @fitzstv8506 Год назад +1

      They don't have to sign up to it, it just has to be approved by a majority in the Commons to be applied........the DUP just won't renter the NI Assembly which is something they are not going to do anyway because they will not serve under a Nationalist First Minister.

  • @jungleboi6544
    @jungleboi6544 Год назад

    I’m not fan of sunak but he’s doing job then previous PM dealing with Brexit

  • @petekadenz9465
    @petekadenz9465 Год назад +1

    No, of course not. Unlike NI, mainland Britain is outside the European single market and the customs union - and the damage to our economic prosperity, and hence our ability to properly fund schools, the NHS and other essential public services, will continue until we rejoin both. How many years are we going to waste until we once again become a member of the world’s largest (& our nearest) trade block?

  • @Mike_5
    @Mike_5 Год назад +1

    Dear Rishi with his long fingers no wonder she is smiling

  • @robertwilkes2105
    @robertwilkes2105 Год назад

    No sound....

  • @j.p.9295
    @j.p.9295 Год назад +2

    Rishi 👍 My man

  • @lindacurrie8817
    @lindacurrie8817 Год назад

    No has not been put to bed big problems for farmers and fisheries still remain.

  • @gullydantes5607
    @gullydantes5607 Год назад

    No relaxation of goods coming from the uk and Northern ireland. Dream on.

  • @mbolton
    @mbolton Год назад

    No it undermines the Brexit campaign for independence of the UK

  • @testman9541
    @testman9541 Год назад +1

    Not a single chance. Trilema is still not solved more fun for this Season 8 expected... enjoy 🍸

  • @sillyoldhector
    @sillyoldhector Год назад +5

    Risha is such a snake, his sales pitch is as wonderful as it is a work of fiction, exaggeration and omissions.

  • @soniapalaciosmontoya6738
    @soniapalaciosmontoya6738 Год назад

    En español porfavor

  • @franciscouderq1100
    @franciscouderq1100 Год назад

    Why will it not become a smugglers paradise? Please explain because here you don’t.

  • @JB-yo1fo
    @JB-yo1fo Год назад

    United Ireland Now

  • @markw1413
    @markw1413 Год назад +1

    This is VERY misleading journalism. The deal explicitly states that only EU rates of VAT are to be charged on goods coming from GB to NI. NI is not allowed to stop anything. And EU courts are in control.
    And the EU is in charge of all areas.
    If that sounds like a good deal for British citizens in a part of The U.K then you need to see a doctor.

    • @Nice0n3
      @Nice0n3 Год назад

      Well, then the conclusion is that Sunak needs to get his head checked...

  • @Redf322
    @Redf322 Год назад

    Same deal different name.

  • @AnthonyD-yy2in
    @AnthonyD-yy2in Год назад +2

    If this doesn't work then the only way forward would be a united Ireland wouldn't it?

    • @alexanderthegreat7213
      @alexanderthegreat7213 Год назад

      why does it not even enter your head that it is not an automatic given that the EU are somehow the only ones entitled to get their way? You do realize that they are just a body of bureaucrats, unelected that are trying to enforce rules on sovereign countries, right?

  • @joprocter4573
    @joprocter4573 Год назад +2

    In covid high volume of Irish shop produce from Republic.. No doubt no checks at any time.. Dunnes.. M+s etc but as same products produced NI aplenty its industrial sabotage as they lowered price to compete when normally Irish Irish come NORTHERN IRELAND TO DO BIG SHOP

    • @imastaycool
      @imastaycool Год назад +2

      The Irish go to the occupied counties in Ireland where people are also Irish haha

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Год назад +1

      Having seen booze prices in the Republic, it’s worth filling up the boot in Northern Ireland with beer and wines

    • @imastaycool
      @imastaycool Год назад +2

      @@Redsleather where are you from? Yeah drink can be expensive depending where you buy it in Ireland, but it's always more expensive in capital cities

    • @Redsleather
      @Redsleather Год назад +1

      @@imastaycool I’m from England but when visiting Ireland it’s always a surprise in even Aldi or Lidl seeing the price of the same bottle of wine compared with this side of the sea. That said, I love Dunnes Stores no matter what the price 😊

  • @brendancawley8404
    @brendancawley8404 Год назад

    Let's call bluff of SF or DUP and remove ecj involvement. Let's see which one really defends Good Friday agreement. EVERYONE SEEMS TO FORGET UK DO NOT REQUIRE AND NEVER ASKED FOR BORDER WHEN LEAVING EU ONLY EU INSISTED.

    • @stiofain88
      @stiofain88 Год назад

      This is entirely your fault and everyone in Ireland and the US know it.

  • @joprocter4573
    @joprocter4573 Год назад

    NO THERE IS 16 AND 20

  • @stephenwalker850
    @stephenwalker850 Год назад

    Billions

  • @charlysantamaria8646
    @charlysantamaria8646 Год назад +1

    Time for a Irish referendum to unified Ireland

  • @johnaustinbyrne
    @johnaustinbyrne Год назад +2

    So, awesome deal done! When are the Brexiteers going to "relax" standards? Next week? Then the EU will impose tariffs and it will all kick off again. Good job DC.... which is Italian for David Cameron.

    • @Lostouille
      @Lostouille Год назад

      It depends , it's on NI and their central gov don't care that much about NI.

  • @chrise202
    @chrise202 Год назад +1

    Less is more... Too much waffling, get to the point

  • @wilhelmvanbabbenburg8443
    @wilhelmvanbabbenburg8443 Год назад

    Plot twist, NI becomes so prosperous that gives so much to the rest of the UK but feels hindered by the politics in Westminster, that they don't agree and become independent.

  • @dingopisscreek
    @dingopisscreek Год назад

    The end of the debate? Oh, how we wish that that was the case. If the dup don't agree it will drag on. But the deal, it seems, will go through whatever the dup does because the government has the support of Labour. I don't think that they (dup) will be satisfied with any deal which is acceptable to the EU.

  • @maggiepie8810
    @maggiepie8810 Год назад +9

    I would like to congratulate the UK on having its first relatively sane PM in 13 years.

    • @stiofain88
      @stiofain88 Год назад +5

      "Relatively" is doing a lot of work there

    • @maggiepie8810
      @maggiepie8810 Год назад +4

      @SK It's gone from being a horror show of bad policy-making to JUST an out-of-touch posh Tory.

    • @Purple_flower09
      @Purple_flower09 Год назад +4

      @@maggiepie8810 I agree. Sunak is a competent technocrat who won't make massive mistakes. He will steer the government along to their forthcoming defeat where his party will be severely beaten. The Tories have run out of ideas and everything else.

    • @maggiepie8810
      @maggiepie8810 Год назад

      @Jonathan Stone How much of an issue do you think UKIP will be, if Brexit voters are unhappy with the fact that they're not getting the middle finger to the EU Brexit that they think they've voted for?

    • @midlandgeordie
      @midlandgeordie Год назад

      He has very little competition!!!

  • @taranehahmadi-parker1412
    @taranehahmadi-parker1412 Год назад +1

    Kier Starmer government 😮🙉not labour government. 🤬

    • @ozzie2612
      @ozzie2612 Год назад +1

      unlike sunak he did win the vote to become party leader

  • @kimhansen8615
    @kimhansen8615 Год назад +9

    EU is way too kind for DUPs dirty games.

  • @louis-philippearnhem6959
    @louis-philippearnhem6959 Год назад

    Brexit will never be done. Furthermore, the Windsor Framework is not compatible with the Retained EU Law bill as NI will have to follow EU rules for goods.

  • @andressanchezcasado4433
    @andressanchezcasado4433 Год назад +1

    Back to square one

  • @paddyreilly5417
    @paddyreilly5417 Год назад

    West to East never was a problem. Stop peddling lies.

  • @MyKarur
    @MyKarur Год назад

    Frankly, Bexit was a disaster and Britain is paying a huge price.Emotions ran high and a referendum which delivered a questionable Yes vote was the basis for this exit, with a neighbour so important that 60% of trade from Britain relies on. All the champions of Brexit,including Farage and Boris are nowehere to be seen.Sunak has done well to negotiate with EU, starting with this Northern Ireland accord