Will they Run? Straight-8 Showdown! Packard vs Buick, Part1
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Hi! As promised, it's time for Straight-8 Showdown! In Part one we'll take our classic boat anchors, I mean engines, apart and see what it is going to take to get them going again! These are dinosaurs from the age of the extinction of the in-line 8 cylinder configuration; both the Packard and Buick types would be gone by 1955, so I thought we should see if they could be made to run again...
The "rules" are: 2 teams, every Agent is on one team or the other. No time limit, no real budget other than for gaskets or small items. The goal is to get your team's Straight-8 machine to the end of the yard and back under its own steam. In the event it is close, there will be a "Concours d'Elephants" to determine the victor...
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I'm very excited to finally be making the Straight-8 Showdown!
We've talked about this idea for a while, but now it is time to get going on these classic behemoths! In one corner, we have the 1953 Packard Clipper, and in the other corner it's the 1950 Buick Super Riviera Hardtop... This week, we'll start by taking the engines apart a bit to see what kind of condition they are in, and whether they can even be saved... I was a little nervous about doing this series, as I really have no idea if either car can ever be made to run again. They have been sitting in fields for 50 years or so, and both engines are seized up, so there will definitely be some luck involved, and likely a little penetrating oil, haha! Agent 303 is the Captain of the Packard Team, and the twin Agents 7678 and 0826 of the Center For Cultural Enrichment are Co-Captaining the Buick Team. Agent 900 and I are on both teams, to keep it fair...
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good episode
Just cut off the Buicks back 2 cylinders and make it a straight 6 Buick or just cut the rod off the back Cylinder and have a Straight 7 with a beer holder
Please say there is going to be a part 2 to this Video hope to see one these cars running
29:00 into the video I realize this is a series!!!
Maaaan! Excited but pissed at the same time.
I gotta be patient then...
This was a really good episode, from about 5 minutes in I started watching the red line I didn't want it to end. Can't wait for the next episode. I think im team buick. I think it would be better for everyone if you got 2 cameras going and filmed each team independently and uploaded them both separately so we have more content to watch. Go buick you can do it
What could be better viewing, a group of mostly middle-aged fellers having huge amounts of fun (and beer) fixing rusty old cars---and not a toupee in sight ! If I was American, I would undoubtably say "Awsome!!!", but I'm just an old Yorkshire "Geezer" in Ireland saying "That's absolutely hilarious".Thanks for sharing, Scott.
LOL !!! as an American, I say it then... AWESOME!!
I used to work with an older mechanic when i first started my apprenticeship back in 84. We did a couple of old flat head motors where we reused copper head gaskets. we took them off, cleaned the gasket and painted them with galvanized roof paint and put them back on. They worked. At the time i didn't think it would but it did.
now that is damn clever!
Hi Andrew. Yes, ive reused copper head gaskets many times, never once did it not work. My first experience was 12 yrs old, mini bike 5hp tecumseh transplant, blew headgasket. I made one out of a copper kettle sheeting from the sides of kettle. Worked great. I removed the head, asked my dad to buy me a new gasket, old won was blown right out. He went in the shed, came out with old copper kettle, thrwe it at me, and said," make one!" I did! It worked great! Rev.
This is the real deal, not another BS scripted "reality TV" show. Best car show on RUclips!
What I love is that RUclips tries constantly to recommend other videos to me based on my affinity for this channel: "Watched another Cold War Motors video? You'll love this!" Well, I am here to say nothing else on the whole of RUclips holds a candle (or a neon carburetor lamp) to the fun and games broadcast weekly from the CWM Olympic Time-Wasting Complex and Velodrome. Hats off to Scott, Frankers, and all the Agents for their continued efforts to bring us the genuine article. And so, RUclips, I'm going to watch Part I of the Straight-8 Showdown again, because I will accept no substitute for CWM with my coffee.
This series is just about the greatest - greatest - content on the internet. Every few months I come back and re watch all six hours of it. Thank you, Scott!
Somethings never change in the gear head world. You've brought back memories of 55 years ago! wonderful to watch.
Right ! I rember going to somebody's garage as a teen I did not know with several teen there as we helped him prepare his 50 merc for the demo derby. Great times
Unlocking a Buick Straight 8 can be a BEAR! I had to do the same with my 49 Buick Roadmaster Riv, and WOW....I got it, but it took some time! Of course it was just me working on evenings and weekends.....I LOVE both cars! I wish both teams the best of luck!
You win the respect and admiration of the masses!
My grandpa came from Italy to Detroit in the early 1920s. He was a machinist at Packard Motors literally the day he arrived until retiring in 1955.
Beautiful machine work and castings on those Packard engines!
Very cool!
I just spent 45 mins. watching car valves and LOVED IT!
Great therapy for a terrible Day.
*TX!*
Fuck! You're absolutely right, now that I think about it. Damn!
45 Minutes of the Waste of Time Olympics.
I enjoyed every last minute, and want more. Lol.
Texas is rootin’ for team Packard. Also learned about a must have new fangled secret piston tool...the Canadian “swing press” ! Love it
way too much fun is being had, no wait, its just the right amount of good friends, good laughs & good times!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, yes, yes. More showdowns. I love this channel, but this is one of the best ideas that you’ve had,.... that and “This Classic Tire”. I look forward to Saturdays for another trip to CWM. I don’t come here because you spend 8 grand to make something run, I come to watch it done on a budget. 👍👍☮️
HEY, Anyone who's into Anything.. Just after thrilling over the Final suspenseful climactic episode of this Straight 8 Series (which has just been uploaded) -I'M going back to watching the WHOLE THING AGAIN ! Brilliant leading exponents of the adventure/suspense/mechanics/comedy genre. Cheers Scott -and all Cold Warm. agents.
Thank you! Awesome effort, from Australia.
“This is an optimum time to gap the plugs!” Hah! Great line!
Best comment!
Can't believe you actually worked on a General Motors automobile! Thanks!
Penetrating beer down that #8 cylinder is what you need. 10% of the mix down the bore- it will either free the piston or it won't, but as you'll be drinking the remaining 90%, you won't care either way. Win/win.
This is what Dreams are made of ! , I cannot express how much enjoyment , & excitement I felt while watching you Agents wrenching on the OG's . Thank You for making life interesting . Ray in Pa U.S.A.
Just when you think CWM can't go any higher, you go and excel yourselves. BEST. RUclips. CHANNEL. EVER!
As I stumble through my few remaining years, I can only love this show. Basically the only thing on RUclips that I can really relate to, sans the agents or anyone to help me. But that only makes the successes sweeter.
Loved this video! Nice break from the Fury. Thanks Scott!
Ever since I watched a few of the Jay Lenno Packard car reviews now they will always be remembered as one of the highest quality classic cars ever made. Just ask the man who owns one. In one of the old manuals Jay has it says to "Have your man" change the oil and do services etc, because back then if you could afford a Packard you definitely had a guy that did the work for you.
Look at that cylinder head. Such nice machine work. Love the lettering. THUNDERBOLT
The largest models of Packard, Pierce Arrow, Cadillac, Rolls Royce etc were made to be chauffeur driven. Giant trucklike limousine type cars that could carry the heaviest most luxurious body work. They also made smaller, handier cars for the owner who drove his own car and these made up 80% or 90% of their production. That is where the 'have your man' stuff came from, the chauffeur driven models.
Great idea. Treat with respect like you really want to restore them. I don't care who wins, I want to see them both run. The challenge is to see which runs better, including driving again, without spending a bunch of money.
Pure Canadiana! I really enjoyed the video. Thanks Scott and everyone else. Hope to stop by some time!
Just get them both running and have some fun with them! These are two of Michigan's finest and they deserve to be on the road again! They both need to live.
I have been a Buick guy for over 40 years, but my money is on team Packard for this one.
This episode is the greatest! Makes me pine for a garage space so that I can wrench on some rusty iron as opposed to daydreaming about it while watching you guys. Awesome stuff as always
It's a Sunday morning and I'm having breakfast and watching another episode from CWM. The straight eight challenge. Bliss.
Hit that head gasket with some 'Siver Frost' paint and it'll be as good as new. I remember the days when you could stand in the engine bay to work on the car. Mosquito coil on the beer can? LOL
Great Canadian humour going on there too guys. I'm looking forward already to next episode.
Hi Boss. I thought i was the only one who noticed the mosquito coil on the beer can! Cheers!
Theres a shit ton of mosquitos U.P. here in Mi.
Great idea on the straight 8 show down. Its great seeing real people working with something that most of have us have to work on. Sorry Dean, but I hope the Buick wins lol. Great guys, great friends, having fun and drinking beer working on cars is every man idea of a great time.
Another gem...fantastic dialog..I love it ..once again you've made my weekend..I'm gonna watch it again..thank you big time.
Straight 8's are Great! Just a Great Channel about Real Guys doin what Real Guys do best, Drinking Beer, Partaking of some "Herb" maybe, & working to save Classic Iron, I Love It!!...
The packard was an amazing surprise!! What great fun to have with buddies twistin wrenches on some old cars. Cwm is the envy of the internet!! I cant wail to see an update on both engines. Best of luck team Buick on getting her free!!
Those old Packard straight 8's have the most gorgeous castings on the head
Tom giving Dean a hard time is hilarious 😂 What a great guy
Folks may not know this, but Tom has done post-doctoral work in ball-busting. He’s a riot!
Love the concept. Cheers from Florida
I really enjoy this type of video. Nice to see the Agents all together enjoying themselves.
another great episode. if buick's#8 won't free, disconnect it from crank and remove the conn rod (cut off?), remove intake valve push rod, and set the exhaust valve full open. it'll have a "throaty, loping idle," too... after all - only has to make it to the end of the driveway and back. would love to see both run correctly, tho.
I worked on a inline 8 De Soto sitting down outside for 40 years. It was so heavily corroded we had to rebuild the whole engine. Today, it is something like a honor to work on such cars.
I want to be on Team Frankers!
This should be great fun. I'm not even disappointed that it's not a Fury update. Good Luck, fellas!
I'm going to enjoy this one, my first car was a 1951 Buick that I paid $20 for, I enjoyed the hell out of that junker until the Law caught me, I was 12.
Life was good back then.
Aww, that's so sad! The man who owned that car lost his hat! I can imagine him walking around his shop in 1964 thinking "I know I put the damn thing around here somewhere, now WHERE the hell IS it?!" All this time, it was under the hood of that car he got rid of.
Probably lost his shirt trying to keep that thing on the road....
The classic cars may not be running yet but the classic BEER sure is. Lucky Lager? Straight out of the fifties right there! Love the straight eight challenge idea! Thanks to you and the agents for another winner!
The most fun I've had watching a video in a long time. I'll be 71 in September and I want to drive the Packard home to Nevada for my birthday. WCD Carter... love those carbs. I have one on my Willys panel truck. Is the Packard a WGD? Who's the Ultramatic expert? A Buick without a Dynaflow what luck. What fun...
That Dean impression was priceless.
I am so looking forward to this series. Awesome to see the straight 8's get some attention. I can't wait for the next set of installments!!
This looks like a load of fun, and a great use of idle detroit steel. All the best!
As one whose dad owned a 1937 Buick for years and then went to Olsmobiles I really thought the Buick would be in better shape. That is really surprising about that Packard. There is a guy in my neighborhood who drives around a restored 1953 Packard Clipper all original engine so they do have great engines. Thanks for sharing this video really great.
I drove a '41 Buick for about 10 years. It was a great car. My brother once told me "It was the first old car he was ever in that acted like it wanted to go somewhere!" Nice project here.
Great idea on the straight eight showdown, love the Packard and the Buick, I like the looks of the Buick but Packard is a sentimental favorite.
This game-type format is great!
Well that buick straight 8 is in better condition than mine was! I had 2 cylinders rusted to heck had to get a real big hammer to get the pistons out after months of soaking.
I can never understand how the hell people give these videos a thumbs down... Wtf. Hats off to ya Scott, Tom, Francine, Agents and of course the infamous Stella! Can't wait until next week's video, one of the highlights of my week.
That'll buff out :)
Onward Gentlemen! There is life in the balance... Another great episode, thanks. Skip
What is the secret formula for the ATF and acetone penetrating oil mentioned? Thanks, Skip
Oh! I am not sure? It looked like about 50/50? Worked well on 7 of the 8; I can see them wiggle in the bores a tiny bit now, but #8 is really rusted solid after sitting with water in it for almost 50 years! Time for more drastic measures...
I am going with the Packard. The Buick number 8 cylinder does not look good. My Dad had a 1955 Packard it was a smooth riding machine. I loved riding in it during the early 60's. Great video thanks
Wow, that was a fast 45 enjoyable minutes! I can see you rounded up the usual suspects so I know I'm in for a good time.
Oh my God! Tom! Everyone needs a neighbor like tom! And Frankers is a free agent!
I like the statement" We have to remove the head it should only take 20 minutes" . Next shot it is dark out. When I'm working on cars I often have a episodes of the overly long "20 minutes". Sometimes they take several days.🤣👍
Tom is the coolest!! He should be declared a national treasure.
HEY!!!,,, GREAT TO SEE SOME OLD STRAIGHTS!!!!!
I know you guys will no doubt get them BOTH running again!!!!
Peace out..
Well I see part of the problem with the Buick, the guys just used 1 1/2 case of beer when it looks to me to be at lest a 2 case job.
Love Frankers, I knew it was Dean coming when I heard her bark! Such a happy dog.
Good ole wrenching REALLY GOOD SHIT right there Have a wonderful day
Such a great group of guys. You know things just got real when Dean shows up. You guys belong on the Motor Trend channel.
I'll be rooting for the Packard team, rare car, BEAUTIFUL car, and they say nothing runs smoother than a Packard Straight 8.
It's the one I am most interested in seeing start - when I first saw the car it just had a kinda 'force' about it...ya can just tell, sometimes.
Great, creative concept for a video. Broad, team-member involvement (Agents with agency), two diverse mystery engines (or chancy bores), amicable competition, beer, seasoned & satirical expectations, happy rust vs. pathological saboteur rust . . . what's not to like? Perhaps we'll see the Packard dragging the Buick until its crank finally spins . . . or the input shaft pinballs off, smoking, into the woods like a singed chipmunk?
Could easily have been a battle of the badging. Both of those have some really stunning trim / chrome work
Ooh, good point. Maybe an idea for future videos?
Rootin' for Team Packard. One of the last cars my grandfather finished restoring was a 50's something-or-other Packard, so I'm biased.
BUUUUT I love the attitude of the Buick guys....
I bet they both will run. The Buick will require a little more effort. As always a fantastic show.
Well, the Buick and the Packard sat down to chew
All things over on what to do.
Sez one t'other I wuz doin' just fine,
Just rustin' to hell and taking my time.
Now these boyz come and roust us out,
Ain't no damn tellin' for what about.
Sez t'other one back that ain't no shit.
We're up the creek from where I sit.
But if we haz to stir about,
I'll whup yore ass there ain't much doubt.
The Unknown Poet (who ain't picking sides until he knows who is winning)
Editor's Note: Go Buick.
Once again pushing the fun needle further with this vid series, I'm tuned in.
Really looking forward to seeing and hearing one or hopefully both of these old beautiful engines come to life, go team frankers
This is the Best Series this channel has ever put on.
Our family had a 1950 Buick Special when we lived in Fort Dodge, Iowa. In late 1971 my dad sold the car to a local guy . We all missed it. Such a fun big old car. And green, just like this one.
I think you have a winner with this showdown. Lots of fun to watch.
Hey Philip! Thanks for the note... Hope you enjoy this one... I also hope that it works out, haha! I really have no idea how this is going to turn out, as I decided to do this series before we even tried to turn either engine or take a single bolt off... There might be some "technical difficulties" along the way, haha! Cheers, and thank you again for all your generosity to the cause here. All the very best from me and Miss Frankers...
Cheering for Team Packard. Always dreamed of owning a 50/51 Patrician with a Straight 8. Thanks for this special.
Since I own a Studebaker, I'm automatically relegated to Team Packard aren't I?
Awesome Scott, I felt like I was there with the boys doing 'grandpa stuff'. I love how as the day goes on and the more beer is consumed, the comments everyone makes just get smarter.
Brilliant effort guys, loving this poke about in these old engines.
This is the best car chanel ever !! go team Packard!! go team Buick!!
I've been eagerly anticipating since the day you bought the Packard and the Buick that there would be a Will It Run for the seized engines. I already know this series will be my favorite -- and hell, I already love all the other Will It Run episodes.
Reviving those piles of rust is so exiting! love it!
Wish I was there ! Looks like friends just spending enjoyable time together ! Thanks for another great video !!
boil some hot oil up and pore into the cylinder to expand bore and the piston will stat moveing , this is a good old trick a oldtimer showd me
Hi. i just watched another video on YT and thats exactly what they did, and it worked!
dee bowen, Genius. Heat & oil.
@@lolbr3720 you haft to heat the oil till it gets verry hot and the oil looks blue on top
@@waynegouin939 you haft to heat the oil till it gets verry hot and the oil looks blue on top
🤔 Wow that makes perfect sense 👍. I'm going to try that.
I think the Buick team will need a few extra beers to get that thing going! I'm looking forward to the Packard running. I've never heard what a straight eight Packard sounds like.
Great projects and beer!!! . . . . reminds me of the good ole days hanging around an engine bay on weekends . . . . good stuff . . . . Rog
Can’t wait for the sequel. Will it run is really a great watch. Go Team Buick go! Can you drop the sump and take off the con rod of no.8 and knock piston through and get another piston?
Winners drink Molson Canadian. Losers drink Big Rock Jackrabbit Low Carb Lager. Just beat a crease in the copper gasket and let it crush seal when it is tightened again? Tom seems one of those cheerful guys that it is always a pleasure to be around. I love grumpy old farts. Those are the ones you learn the real life lessons from.
epic showdown gentlemen...a real battle for the ages.
Not sure why but I find this very interesting. Lol
I knew we weren’t going to see em running when the rumors about no more 🍺 started flying. That will do it every time. Time to re-group , make a beer run , twist one ( or three) up and figure out the plan of attack to get these two cars running 🍺✌️
Lucky Lager! Sweet!
So glad you guys save these old gem's
I was a bit skeptical, but this is a quality good time
I think Dean should wear the hat from the Packard...lol
That was great! Really looking forward to more of this series. I'm betting team Packard is gonna win, just because those old flatheads are dead simple and damn near impossible to kill. The OHV engine in the Buick has more moving parts -- more to go wrong. Awesome video!
Great fucking episode, Scott! So much fun! Thanks for making my Saturday afternoon! Tomorrow I'm digging back into my '37 Studebaker.
Great video idea!
Frankers announce arrival of DEAN!
Hang a chain up under the front of the Buick, drag it up the road & let the clutch out...if the clutch is stuck, put the transmission in neutral then try whatever gear you think will match wheel rpm in a timed agresssive fashion...it'll let go - l've done this before...put 2 people in the pull vehicle - 1 driving looking forward & 1 turned around looking at you