How to Meter for Film Photography // Highlights or Shadows?
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- When it comes to shooting film, especially if you’re new to it, metering can be one of the more confusing or intimidating topics. What kind of meter should you use? Can you just use the meter inside your camera? Why do people always suggest you overexpose your film? There are a lot of questions and I’m partnering up with my good friends at The Darkroom to try and give you all of the information you need to make the photos you want. This is the first of many videos where we dig into the technical side of shooting film. Be sure to check out the blog post on The Darkroom’s website to find even more information and examples to learn from!
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About those light meter apps, please do both iPhone and Android ones 🙏
So happy you're at this full time now, your content is top notch and always helpful!
Buy a lightmeter on a whim.... video on how to use it properly comes up the same way....WIN!
Ghost_Vinyl_Media58 it’s destiny!
If you can and want, a video about how to use a Sekonic meter correctly would also be very useful. When to use the sphere in and when to use it out. Functionalities of the metter, and stuff like that. Thank you for this video, it is very helpful.
This is really helpful Matt! I generally shoot overexposed by on stop metered in the shadows when shooting color negatives, i guess ill start trying to try and meter the midtones for maximum latitude. Keep em videos coming!
I've watched over a dozen videos on metering, and this was by far the most helpful. Thanks!
Legit the video that I was looking for only till recently I started wondering about how to use a light meter. Thank you Matt for this helpful video!
Loving all of these videos you've been pumping out lately man... as always
You are cranking out these great videos! PS Happy Go Skateboarding Day!
Hi Matt- Your channel is very useful - thank you. I have recently been trying to unlearn digital photography, and learn...film photography. The most useful tools I have for learning right now are my Sekonic L-508 and my Fujifilm X-T3. Using the Fuji in manual mode (adapted manual lenses,) I meter the scene, make a judgement, then see the effect. After a few weeks of this, I am able to use the Fuji and the meter and not "cheat." I am more confident and the results are predictable. I set the meter and the camera ISO a half a stop apart - it's my feeling the camera is darker than film.
I'd be interested in your thoughts. Thanks for all the great work.
My film cameras are a Spotmatic and Zorki 4K.
Thanks a lot for putting this video together. I am VERY MUCH looking forward to a video covering the smartphone apps!
Great video on metering. I do mostly street photos so I always meter for the shadows or for skintones by metering the light hitting my hand.
Great video streak this week Matt, been pretty bored lately and these are always interesting for me to watch! Been wanting you to make one about metering so I'm spoiled ahah
That’s why the Leica M5 is so great. It’s got a spot meter that’s super precise.
Gotta say this was the metering video help I've been looking for. A lotta videos just go meter for highlights, shadows, bla bla bla without really showing the difference between them. excellent work Matt.
Hi, what an awesome video. Keep up the superb work! I look forward to your next video.
Thank you Matt. Excellent explanation. Short, precise and to the point..
We always meter for the shadow! Good job man!
Hey Matt! Thank you for the video. Looking forward to the next one because I have had mixed experiences with light metering apps. I will say however there are really simple sunny 16 apps out there- I use one that's just a simple slider with ISO, aperture and shutter speed and based on the lighting condition it your choices to what would work together.
thanks for this super helpful video. It has cleared some doubts i had...thanks again dude!
Great and informative video! Cheers Matt!
Oooh, can't wait for the smartphone app video!
Really appreciate the side-by-side visuals!
A friend gave me a Pentax Spotmeter V last year. Best gift ever!
Fantastic. Finally metering that makes sense. Thanks Matt.
Thanks so much Matt. This was perfectly explained.
That was so helpful and to the point. Thank you for this.
Everything I needed to know! Thanks 😊
Helpful video. Thanks Matt!
Exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
This was such a helpful video for light metering! Mahalo!
this video helps me a lot Matt! thank you
Long time subscriber here. Like way back like when you uploaded just under five videos. Never commented but why not.
First, man, if you've done a video like this maybe six years about you've would of really saved me tons of rolls. Started digital ten years ago, then jumped into film relaying on the meter and giving me a lot of crap in the beginning. Anyways, a great video to refresh the memories.
I'm a SF native, but now living in France. If you're ever heading for Europe do let us know!
Well done. Very useful information. Thank you.
I'm new to film, so this video was very helpful. Thanks!
This is exactly what I was looking for ! Thank you so much
Thank you Matt. This is good basic information film or digital. Makes me want to dig out my fathers old Contaflex vintage '53 and shoot a roll.
Hugh Wolfe go for it!
Great Vid! This was extremely helpful.
Great video, thanks Matt!!!
A Grade material Matt! Thanks you so much.
This was super helpful with the examples and exactly what I was looking for!
Great video, thanks Matt.
Outstanding video! Extremely helpful since I bought a Mamiya C330 :)
Very nice video! Concise but informative. Thank you.
Killing it! Maybe spot metering tutorial next?
That’s why the Leica M5 is so awesome. It’s got a spot meter that’s super reliable. I can determine perfect exposure for slide film with it even in really insane contrast situations. I usually meter for the brighter parts of the shadows with negativ film because I don’t like that overexposed look and I want *all* the details in the highlight. Although often enough when shooting Portra 400 I just try not to underexpose to much and occasionally even shoot wide open in the daylight.
Thanks mate, this video finally made things click for me. I now have a better understanding
Love it man thanks for the vid !!
This was hugely helpful. Thank you!
great video, thank you Matt !
Cool stuff. I usually meter off my hand If I tend to nail skin exposure. Otherwise I'm all about good old sunny 16!
I never use light meter,i use my experience and sunny 16 rule.
Great videos man!
Simple, down to the point.
Great video. Great examples. Great hat. 🤟🏽
Trev is awesome. I got a chance to chat with him a bit at the Paiedeia. Great guy and photographer.
Good video thanks for sharing! You said color negative film holds highlight detail well so meter sometimes between highlights and shadows depending on how bright light is. What if shooting b&w does this logic hold true there too? I just bought my first film camera and I am excited to give this a try!! Thank you
Great video, just where I'm at in my learning curve..
This video couldn't have come at a better time! Just got myself a Leica M2, so not having a meter has been worrying me a bit. After seeing this though, I'm much more confident in going out with a handheld and getting the shot. Keep up the great work!
Just had to mention your Leica
@@awprc Would have mentioned any camera I had. Have a good one!
@@matthewmendoza5729 Just had to reply
Thanks for this vid ! This was really clear ! :)
thank you so much!! this is exactly what i was looking for (-:
I always meter for shadows, it doesn't always work. But I get a over/under exposed images every 2-3 images a roll. I just started using a Sekonic l308 for my Bronica and I'm confused because leaving the cover on gives a different reading then off. Most cases the off give good readings.
Looking forward to that metering app video
Super stuff matt. Would love a similar video of how to meter scenes at night :)
FINALLY! i now get it. thank you!
great stuff matt
thank you for this!
I will be shooting Velvia 100 in 4x5 this week in a very green HOH rainforest. I will use my Sekonic but really not sure about my capabilities with it yet. I have 20 sheets and plan to shoot them all this week.
Spot on and enlightening 😀
Shawn Brezny I see what you did there.
This was exactly what i was looking for, super good info. Thanks
Glad to hear it!
great info, however I shoot mostly b&w film, would you meter the same way? For digital I almost always meter for the highlights for a moody/dramatic look that I like. Would you meter the same for black and white film to get that moody look.
Great video! Thanks for making this
Jake Shapiro Thanks for watching!
Super cool. Thanks!
I shot a short film using an Aaton Prod super-16mm camera. My DSLR, phone app and the Aaton camera’s meter all gave different readings. I decided trusting the Aaton’s meter, which meters for the light reflecting off the film; I used a grey card since the scenes showed all spectrums of skin tones. The Aaton metered about +1 to +2 compared to the DSLR but the results were perfect. I could have easily exposed for even more. Film is amazing, even IF there’s no LCD preview 😉 #ShotFilm #FilmWins
I’m late but I love your channel thank u omg
Hi...newbie here, so forgive me if I get the terminology mixed up. I've read two separate articles that recommend Incident light metering for the shadows. Metering for a 1/2 the box speed (ASA 100, metered as if ASA 50), setting the meter to EV -2, and finally reducing development time by 10-15% to keep the highlights from blowing out.
My understanding is that this is an attempt to overexpose the shadows to get detail if you want it, and under develop to avoid highlight blow out.
Have you had any experience with this metering method? If so, what are you experiences?
Great video. Just got myself a light meter so this is very useful. :D Looking forward for the smartphone app video. Hope you cover android apps as well...
loooooovee these photos
what is a cheap, but good hand held lightmeter? i'm looking if one of those old minolta meters are any good but i don't know
really great and helpful
Thank you very much!!!
Finally the vid we needed. Thanks yo!
Hello from Holland Matt. You mention exposure bracketing which seems a clever idea. How do you ‘remember’ what exposure you were shooting on in the first place? Do you take notes? When I get film back that is not exposures right I often miss that. And again an again I forget. Not so clever. Love your channel! Kind regards, Jan
All meters (handheld, in-camera, etc.) provide mid-tone exposure readings. From that point, the photographer still needs to determine where he or she wants the shadows or highlights to fall and adjust the exposure accordingly. The meter reading is just a starting point.
Reflected and incident meters don’t work the same at all.
This is great information, does distance matter as well? So If I’m further away from the subject should i consider metering differently? Or always meter up close.
Was that light meter apps video finally uploaded? I'm curious about thatttt
Well, whatever happened to knowing about middle gray, and one stop over that and one stop under that idea relative to what you are looking to do? Or metering several places to get an idea about the number of stops?
Hey Matt,
Are you metering for b&w the same way as for color negative?
Good stuff
Very informative thank you for this Matt!
Currently I own four handheld light meters. The oldest being a General Electric PR-1 selenium cell meter. Two Minolta meters, Auto Meter Vf and Flash Meter IV . And a Gossen Lunasix. I wonder if the Minolta Flash Meter IV is a incident /reflected type of light meter.
Sun and D-970 do they give the same reading ?
thanks, dude!
gooood job. thanks！
I’m learning 35mm film photography the dumb expensive way.
Roll after roll of 35mm film.
I did start using Lux a couple of weeks ago though😀
The Lumu Light Meter app does have a very usable spot Meter in it which can be used without the rather expensive Lumu itself.
Gonna love the Matt Day + Darkroom Lab collaboration. Looking forward to it.
Tracy Clayton thanks, man!
4:40 how about metering off the middle shadows? not the darkest parts of his face, but the parts that are middle of the ground. Not highlights, not shadows. And then getting that dialed in to "neutral grey" and you've got highlights that aren't blown out, and shadows that are nice. So on a digital camera, using spot meter to get in on an area with nice neutral shadows. The lighter shadows on the face.
Great video Matt....quick question were you shooting at box speed in those examples?
谢谢！很有用～
Dude THANK YOU!!! Just picked up a L-308X-U and needed to know wtf I need to do😂
About the best advice you can get all compressed into a 6 min video! Excellent stuff sir!
Good video! Anyone have any tips for a film stock that can handle underexposure fairly well? I sometimes find myself wanting to underexpose film shots to achieve a certain look, but I'm not too keen on the grayish, super grainy shadows look. I've had some good results with Provia 100, but ideally I would like to use a higher speed negative film.
I'm guessing CineStill 800T is probably the best alternative.
The Don DeLuxe Portra 400 might be what you need.