I think Falco is the kind of character that makes sense as a semi-clone. He and Fox training together does make it reasonable for them to share some aspects of their fighting style. Plus it'd feel weird if they were to cut some of the aspects of his specials like boost / reflect which are inspired by the source games just to make him different. I'd rather a character be true to source than deviate just to be more different. I think they've done a good job making Falco different enough while keeping true to his source material. And giving him a lot of unique flair with different animations. I wouldn't necessarily complain if they swapped a normal or two here or there, or maybe changed a couple of his throws to be more showy and fancy, but I don't think it's really needed. And I hate playing as Fox and love using Falco, so their playstyles are definitely different enough. As far as the spinning... It makes sense because it makes his fighting style more flashy, and Falco is all about that showboating. And I love that the change to blue lasers makes it a reference to the Star Fox games as well, as the highest upgrade level for your ships main lasers in SF makes them blue. Fits Falco having the more powerful laser and having it colored blue as well.
If you plan on doing more of these, you should probably do on Luigi. He went from being a full on clone to a unique character for the most part. Also, too bad that you're sick. I hope you get well soon.
Well, not a full clone. Like Falco, he had the same moves, but most had different things to them. His up-b had the same angle as Mario's but had the same functions as it does now. His neutral-b was, and still is, unaffected by gravity. His dash attack was completely different from Mario's. His down-b could kill, I believe since this is all off of memory, but Mario's couldn't. And there may be more that I am forgetting, but that's what I remember. I would definitely like to see that episode though, maybe one about Dr. Mario and Mario or Falcon and Ganondorf too.
In smash 64 Luigi only had 3 moves working substantially different, being his Down B, dash attack and Up B, with Mario getting the better part in almost all of them. He also was slower with no payback so no reason to use him over Mario. In melee he got a change on his Jab, Naur, up-tilt, D-tilt, D-air and Up B, a different side B and F-air, while Mario got a different F-Smash, a wall jump and another kind of F-air, they then become Semi-clones. Dr. Mario was created as a clone of Mario and therefore a Semi-clone of Luigi. In Brawl they kinda fixed his Dash attack, has a different freefall, a crouch, an actually different voice than Mario (before it was a high-pitched Mario. Surprisingly still the same voice actor) and they give Mario a different Down B and D-air while Luigi did not. He also got a different Final smash but was a terrible one, much like his brother who at least look cooler. Smash 4 did not change Luigi aside of more expressive animations more akin to the character (Like his jump and facial expressions), but did semi-rework Mario with more speed at the cost of damage. Luigi in that game was more similar to Dr. Mario than Mario due to those traits, but unlike Doc he was viable. His Final Smash was also reworked to be a decent move more akin to him. Ultimate gave Luigi the final piece to being a different fighter: the Roy treatment of promoting a game not released yet, aka the Poltergust from Luigi's Mansion 3 who came 10 months later, as a tether Grab who does not work on ledges but creates a proyectile, altough he lost that unique Up tilt. His gameplay is more polarized than ever as a result, maybe too polarized because of the 0-to-death he got with that, and completely different to Mario in every way aside both of them loving to grab.
In terms of visuals, Falco has always shown more pizazz and style in his animations than Fox. He’s more acrobatic and graceful as if he’s showing off, which makes sense for his character.
5:45 - In regards to Falco's new up smash animation, it has been buffed as of patch 8.0.0 which increased the hitbox size and made the first hit connect into the second better. This makes it a much more consistent move and a viable OoS option. It isn't quite as good as his Smash 4 up smash, but it's a pretty important part of his kit since it's his only good option in shield and his fastest smash attack.
@@SultanSaleh-b9o They made a lot of changes to him in 8.0, all of which were buffs. They were specifically addressing the upsmash because of it being talked about in the video as if it was the pre-8.0 one.
Alex I hope you get better soon. Take as much time as you need. I also really like falco's win quotes against Fox. Even though they are friends they have a friendly rivalry still and falco tells ffox *your off your game fox*
The main point you missed is that in melee falco was insane. short hop laser spam was micro intensive, but if properly executed like in competitions you'd remember that you could essentially stunlock your enemy then finish them off with the pillaring (down spike). From someone who used to play melee and brawl in competitions, falco was nerfed hard from melee and hasn't been the same since.
I liked Falco’s B-Air and D-Air animations were in Melee and Brawl. Those moves would come out pretty quick and can be used as combos and finishers, especially when Falco prefers the D-Air
Brawl: ''So, you're gonna be the big update to my game?'' Project M: ''Yep. First one to change is Falco.'' Brawl: ''Oh, are you going to give him new moves, like a shockwave down tilt or-'' Project M: ''Nah, we're gonna make him a clone again.'' Hope you get better Alex!
I really love Falco's current Final Smash, as his whole character is "Ace Pilot" and how much he prefers the Air. I just wish Fox and Wolf had different Final Smashs.
I don't remember saying it here, but I think Smash 4 Falco was the best imo. The change in the dair made it even easier to hit the spike, and the up smash covered both sides pretty much.
Maybe why when Falco kicks it, it comes back to him bc the reflectors have retractable zip line-like strap attaching them to their belts, that's probably why no matter ho much fox or falco moves, the reflector hardly moves at all.
6:45 Little fun fact: This was going to be a thing in Melee as there are unused voice lines for Fox and Falco in the game files. If Falco were to win against Fox, Falco would have said "お前の腕前ってのは、その程度か？" (Is that all you got?) If Fox were to win against Falco, Fox would have said "気にするなよ、ファルコ。" (No hard feelings, Falco.)
Great video Alex! You missed an animation change to Falco's Down Throw in Ultimate, though: he lays the opponent down and caps them in the head with his Blaster! No change in damage, but always thought that fit his character seeing as he was once in a gang.
A huge difference in melee fox falco is also their shine - different sizes, different hitboxes and most importantly fox shine send opponent downwards while falco’s pops them up, making their combo trees entirely different
Likely the reason why pretty much all the clone characters aren't to different is either because they don't want characters to completely change and they want them to be mostly similar or because their moveset makes sense like it makes sense that falco is similar to fox because they use a lot of the same tools from their games also clone characters got added because their easy to develop because they were rushing melee they wanted more characters so they did that.
You forgot to mention that Falco’s down throw is now unique in Ultimate. It’s similar to Fox’s but different enough to be unique. I wish that for Falco they would change his down smash, dash attack and forward throw just to make him more unique. I’m surprised his dash attack isn’t similar to his Fair or Corrin’s dash attack given that they really wanted Falco to like spinning lol
Maybe they could change the down smash with again kicking the reflector and obviously reflecting the projectiles but in the same time doing less damage and impulse, for forward tilt maybe like a bite how a bird eating seeds, and they could change his throws where he use his blaster and instead attacking with his body and just alternate his FThrow with the gun
What I find interesting is that Falco was originally going to be an alt for Fox back in Smash 64 along with Peppy and Slippy. But this never happened because Sakurai felt the moveset given to Fix as the default wouldn't work for Slippy. I found this information from Source Gaming. m.ruclips.net/video/yrjIiw3dfzQ/видео.html
The hell... I was just thinking about this snd even posted in a Smash group about Falcomd changes, now you make a video about it, talk about coincidences lol. Nice vid tho!
Falco is clone of Fox and is a Top tier in Melee. Falco in Brawl was somewhat a clone and is a Top tier also. Falco in Smash 4 was trash. Falco in Ultimate was now above average but in 8.0 is now a high tier. Saves some time for this video.
Falco was decent in smash 4, players even found out that he has really strong combo game, powerful back air, falco got a lot of buffs in smash 4 update to make his neutral game slightly improvement, and he does got most of the mid tier characters, but what keeps falco low in ssb4 is that he didn't have tournament results to back him up.
Let’s look at falco’s moveset (exaggeration) For his neutural b, he uses wings For his side b, he uses wings For his up b, he uses wings For his down b, he uses wings For his final smash.... he uses wings
Maybe Falco's Dash Attack can be a two hit stylish kick, similar to that of Joker. While I'm on the topic of changes for Falco, make his Forward Tilt an elbow jab that has Falco leaning in forward and ducking, which would make it stronger than his previous version but not to the extreme.
Brawl is the only game in the series where they tried making clones into semi ones meaning there's no actual clones in Brawl, sad how the future games don't do this.
Melee Falco is fucking godly. Easily my favorite character in any fighting game. He seems so vanilla in all the other smash games, so no, I don't care for the changes. But that's just me 🤷♂️
I think Falco is the kind of character that makes sense as a semi-clone. He and Fox training together does make it reasonable for them to share some aspects of their fighting style. Plus it'd feel weird if they were to cut some of the aspects of his specials like boost / reflect which are inspired by the source games just to make him different. I'd rather a character be true to source than deviate just to be more different.
I think they've done a good job making Falco different enough while keeping true to his source material. And giving him a lot of unique flair with different animations. I wouldn't necessarily complain if they swapped a normal or two here or there, or maybe changed a couple of his throws to be more showy and fancy, but I don't think it's really needed.
And I hate playing as Fox and love using Falco, so their playstyles are definitely different enough.
As far as the spinning... It makes sense because it makes his fighting style more flashy, and Falco is all about that showboating.
And I love that the change to blue lasers makes it a reference to the Star Fox games as well, as the highest upgrade level for your ships main lasers in SF makes them blue. Fits Falco having the more powerful laser and having it colored blue as well.
If you plan on doing more of these, you should probably do on Luigi. He went from being a full on clone to a unique character for the most part.
Also, too bad that you're sick. I hope you get well soon.
Well, not a full clone. Like Falco, he had the same moves, but most had different things to them. His up-b had the same angle as Mario's but had the same functions as it does now. His neutral-b was, and still is, unaffected by gravity. His dash attack was completely different from Mario's. His down-b could kill, I believe since this is all off of memory, but Mario's couldn't. And there may be more that I am forgetting, but that's what I remember. I would definitely like to see that episode though, maybe one about Dr. Mario and Mario or Falcon and Ganondorf too.
I like your number of likes xd
@@dominickf6095 Still was a dirty freakin' clone.
@@bichoninho2911 Yeah, but not a full clone like Daisy
In smash 64 Luigi only had 3 moves working substantially different, being his Down B, dash attack and Up B, with Mario getting the better part in almost all of them. He also was slower with no payback so no reason to use him over Mario.
In melee he got a change on his Jab, Naur, up-tilt, D-tilt, D-air and Up B, a different side B and F-air, while Mario got a different F-Smash, a wall jump and another kind of F-air, they then become Semi-clones. Dr. Mario was created as a clone of Mario and therefore a Semi-clone of Luigi.
In Brawl they kinda fixed his Dash attack, has a different freefall, a crouch, an actually different voice than Mario (before it was a high-pitched Mario. Surprisingly still the same voice actor) and they give Mario a different Down B and D-air while Luigi did not. He also got a different Final smash but was a terrible one, much like his brother who at least look cooler.
Smash 4 did not change Luigi aside of more expressive animations more akin to the character (Like his jump and facial expressions), but did semi-rework Mario with more speed at the cost of damage. Luigi in that game was more similar to Dr. Mario than Mario due to those traits, but unlike Doc he was viable. His Final Smash was also reworked to be a decent move more akin to him.
Ultimate gave Luigi the final piece to being a different fighter: the Roy treatment of promoting a game not released yet, aka the Poltergust from Luigi's Mansion 3 who came 10 months later, as a tether Grab who does not work on ledges but creates a proyectile, altough he lost that unique Up tilt. His gameplay is more polarized than ever as a result, maybe too polarized because of the 0-to-death he got with that, and completely different to Mario in every way aside both of them loving to grab.
He spins a lot.
He's just doing a barrel roll; several times.
*do a barrel roll intensifies*
DO A BARREL ROLL
Considering the emphasis on his wings in Brawl, I'm surprised he wasn't given the ability to glide.
He probably cant fly on his own like a normal bird
@Roger Loe metal legs theory was debunked years ago
@Roger Loe by Dylan Cuthbert and Miyamoto
I couldn't even tell he was sick, hes just that good
Liberty Biberty I thought you meant Falco before I watched the video 😂
In terms of visuals, Falco has always shown more pizazz and style in his animations than Fox. He’s more acrobatic and graceful as if he’s showing off, which makes sense for his character.
"Hands off my CAW!"
Uhhh,,,, I was thinking something else but ok
he doesnt say caw
@@thermonuclearexplosive He definitely doesn't...
@@dogpee7783 yes he doesnt
I can’t tell, the sound clip is tighter than my cousins
5:45 - In regards to Falco's new up smash animation, it has been buffed as of patch 8.0.0 which increased the hitbox size and made the first hit connect into the second better. This makes it a much more consistent move and a viable OoS option. It isn't quite as good as his Smash 4 up smash, but it's a pretty important part of his kit since it's his only good option in shield and his fastest smash attack.
and outside of maybe double dunks and Uptilt back air it's one of his more reliable kill setup finishers
I still miss smash 4 upsmash though
Also his down air with less lag
@@SultanSaleh-b9o They made a lot of changes to him in 8.0, all of which were buffs. They were specifically addressing the upsmash because of it being talked about in the video as if it was the pre-8.0 one.
@@tenacity25 I miss Brawl back Air and short hop double laser, but at least his down air is better in Ultimate than un Smash 4
2:53
Why are you even asking? The answer is obvious.
*Yes*
AHAHHAHAH PAUSE IMMEDIATELY
I personally find Falcos move set to look extremely stylish
Alex I hope you get better soon.
Take as much time as you need.
I also really like falco's win quotes against Fox.
Even though they are friends they have a friendly rivalry still and falco tells ffox *your off your game fox*
Why are you everywhere?!
You're*
The main point you missed is that in melee falco was insane. short hop laser spam was micro intensive, but if properly executed like in competitions you'd remember that you could essentially stunlock your enemy then finish them off with the pillaring (down spike). From someone who used to play melee and brawl in competitions, falco was nerfed hard from melee and hasn't been the same since.
Ultimate removed the dab. 🙁😢
Anyone that cares, leave a like to Anibal Osbaldo
I liked Falco’s B-Air and D-Air animations were in Melee and Brawl. Those moves would come out pretty quick and can be used as combos and finishers, especially when Falco prefers the D-Air
This video is awesome! Learned more knowledge about Falco! Hope there'll be more!
Brawl: ''So, you're gonna be the big update to my game?''
Project M: ''Yep. First one to change is Falco.''
Brawl: ''Oh, are you going to give him new moves, like a shockwave down tilt or-''
Project M: ''Nah, we're gonna make him a clone again.''
Hope you get better Alex!
Alex: Why does Falco spin alot
Me: Its beacuse, "DO A BARREL ROLL!"
I really love Falco's current Final Smash, as his whole character is "Ace Pilot" and how much he prefers the Air. I just wish Fox and Wolf had different Final Smashs.
really enjoyed this video! I would love to see more of these, great content to watch when i first wake up!
Sakurai certainly loves spinning.
Hands off my-
prey :)
I don't remember saying it here, but I think Smash 4 Falco was the best imo. The change in the dair made it even easier to hit the spike, and the up smash covered both sides pretty much.
Maybe why when Falco kicks it, it comes back to him bc the reflectors have retractable zip line-like strap attaching them to their belts, that's probably why no matter ho much fox or falco moves, the reflector hardly moves at all.
his excessive spinning is is probably a reference to the "barrel roll"
No mention of Shine differences? Arguably the most important difference. Also Falco has less strong recovery. This is in Melee
6:45
Little fun fact: This was going to be a thing in Melee as there are unused voice lines for Fox and Falco in the game files.
If Falco were to win against Fox, Falco would have said "お前の腕前ってのは、その程度か？" (Is that all you got?)
If Fox were to win against Falco, Fox would have said "気にするなよ、ファルコ。" (No hard feelings, Falco.)
You forgot to mention how Falco’s reflecter in Melee threw the opponent in the air unlike Fox’s
UrBoiJ13 yeah that’s a big one, hugely changes all his combos and setups in that game
Dang, Falco has a crap ton of aerials!
Great video Alex! You missed an animation change to Falco's Down Throw in Ultimate, though: he lays the opponent down and caps them in the head with his Blaster! No change in damage, but always thought that fit his character seeing as he was once in a gang.
I thought this was the What’s the difference between Fox and Falco😅
Well, it did explain some of that too
This series, just like the last one, has so much potential.
Imagine wearing ear buds and playing intro full blast
A huge difference in melee fox falco is also their shine - different sizes, different hitboxes and most importantly fox shine send opponent downwards while falco’s pops them up, making their combo trees entirely different
I guess falco having spins in his move set reflects his style of flying, like in his final smash, where he spins around a lot
Falco is so fun in Melee, they kinda fucked up his core design by changing a lot of these moves. Especially his shine and down air.
Likely the reason why pretty much all the clone characters aren't to different is either because they don't want characters to completely change and they want them to be mostly similar or because their moveset makes sense like it makes sense that falco is similar to fox because they use a lot of the same tools from their games also clone characters got added because their easy to develop because they were rushing melee they wanted more characters so they did that.
So this is where chicken fingers come from
ファルコ君、強化来て良かったね…😭😭
Me after seeing Melee falco: okay i will give a try to this video.
You forgot to mention that Falco’s down throw is now unique in Ultimate. It’s similar to Fox’s but different enough to be unique.
I wish that for Falco they would change his down smash, dash attack and forward throw just to make him more unique. I’m surprised his dash attack isn’t similar to his Fair or Corrin’s dash attack given that they really wanted Falco to like spinning lol
Maybe they could change the down smash with again kicking the reflector and obviously reflecting the projectiles but in the same time doing less damage and impulse, for forward tilt maybe like a bite how a bird eating seeds, and they could change his throws where he use his blaster and instead attacking with his body and just alternate his FThrow with the gun
Is it a attack or is it a essay?
3:10 My headcanon always was that he had some sort of holographic rob e attached to the reflector so he can kinda pull it back
You forgot that in smash 4, Falco can now use side B into Up B to recover.
Thank me later
*sibe b no longer put spacies in freefall
dude FALCO feels floaty in brawl,while in melee he falls like a f***ing rock.
I like Ultimate Falco best. Falco is a pretty good character and at the same time, the most distinct from Fox.
Wow another great video! Was worth the wait.
Falco spins a lot because he is doing a Barrel roll
What I find interesting is that Falco was originally going to be an alt for Fox back in Smash 64 along with Peppy and Slippy. But this never happened because Sakurai felt the moveset given to Fix as the default wouldn't work for Slippy.
I found this information from Source Gaming.
m.ruclips.net/video/yrjIiw3dfzQ/видео.html
0:57 forgot to mention that the shine send upward instead on an horizontal way like fox's shine
I never played smash before but...thx for teaching me the way of falco man :) stay safe
The hell... I was just thinking about this snd even posted in a Smash group about Falcomd changes, now you make a video about it, talk about coincidences lol. Nice vid tho!
I'm honestly fine with falco being a clone. They had 2 distinct functions and playstyles, unlike, say, the Belmonts, Mario Princesses, or the Pits.
Honestly i wish daisy couldve been a clone like falco, similar but with differences that fit the character more
@@maximillianlylat1589 that's honestly what I thought echoes would be, unfortunately sakurai managed to disappoint
Falco is clone of Fox and is a Top tier in Melee. Falco in Brawl was somewhat a clone and is a Top tier also. Falco in Smash 4 was trash. Falco in Ultimate was now above average but in 8.0 is now a high tier. Saves some time for this video.
Falco was decent in smash 4, players even found out that he has really strong combo game, powerful back air, falco got a lot of buffs in smash 4 update to make his neutral game slightly improvement, and he does got most of the mid tier characters, but what keeps falco low in ssb4 is that he didn't have tournament results to back him up.
Falco is my main in smash. A true champ in my eyes 🙌🏻🙏🏼
Do for "What happened to Ganondorf?"
Falco: Spins a lot in smash bros
Sonic: Let me introduce myself
Fox attack with his tail and kicks for his up air
Let’s look at falco’s moveset (exaggeration)
For his neutural b, he uses wings
For his side b, he uses wings
For his up b, he uses wings
For his down b, he uses wings
For his final smash.... he uses wings
You didn't talk about his new animation for his down throw in Ultimate..:(
Can't wait for the new video. Hope you are doing better! (:
Make His up tilt connect!
I still have my gamecube, I love melee Falco. The new ones are ok.
"Sacker ball"
Maybe Falco's Dash Attack can be a two hit stylish kick, similar to that of Joker. While I'm on the topic of changes for Falco, make his Forward Tilt an elbow jab that has Falco leaning in forward and ducking, which would make it stronger than his previous version but not to the extreme.
2:37
* Alex calling falco a bird *
*STAR FOX FANS INTENSIFIES*
Soon enough, Falco will be to fox like Luigi being to Mario.
Brawl is the only game in the series where they tried making clones into semi ones meaning there's no actual clones in Brawl, sad how the future games don't do this.
Is it me or the latest patch of Ultimate makes feel Falco like he was in Brawl?
Smh my head birdies there head when attak not wins sakuria didn’t no what the bird did I’m so sad because no bird 😔
What
Falco's Bair in Sm4sh is not only faster, it's the fastest bair in the game at 4 frames.
wait you forgot the most important thing falco's laser shoots 0.1 second faster in ultimate than wii u
Min Min joined Smash.
Um akschuallyyy, Fox' Melee dair also spikes, it just has way less knockback so the multihit can connect.
I think Luigi, Ganondorf and Roy would be good for this type of video as well.
Dsmash -> Down Taunt true combo.
Hey this type of video is really interesting! You should make more of these character studies.
Melee- High tier
Brawl- Top tier
Smash4- Low tier
6:18
Oh yees
So good
There is a change I found. Falco personally prefers the air while Fox using an arwing instead.
Omg pause it on 6:18 at right time that falco is in the air
Next video will be, what happened to Roy or Docter mario or any other semi clones
What do you mean “what happened to falco”? He’s as OP as ever
Melee Falco is fucking godly. Easily my favorite character in any fighting game. He seems so vanilla in all the other smash games, so no, I don't care for the changes. But that's just me 🤷♂️
6:17
Wait a minute 😳
Please make more of this series the edits were funny too
Change i did like: falcos up smash got fixed
Please do a Luigi study
Can you do wolf’s overhaul from brawl to Ultimate
We need this for falcon and ganon, mario and luigi, the links, nice video
Joker,hero,banjo,Terry and byleth today
you forgot falcos down throw in smash ultimate being changed, but I dont blame you, no one remembers about that move anyways
Slight correction foxs dair is a spike in melee its just incredibly weak and a multi hit. Still sends and 290 though
Fox & Falco's damage:
Fox: 4
Falco:0
6:13 i wasnt expecting
Ah yes, the birds recovery is worse than the fox. 😂
I know why he change to look better.
Falco is a hot birdy
Did anyone know that Falco had a new voice every smash game. I found out and they all sound different
Milo The Wonderer His Smash 4 and Ultimate English VA are the same.
However, in every Smash game before Ultimate, his Japanese VA was Hisao Egawa.
I noticed.
You should do a bunch of these
Can you do one of Zero Suit Samus please