Thanks for this video Billy. I learned this skill for my father many years ago in New Zealand. I did a little myself as a teenager but haven't touched it since. Here in the US, it has been difficult tracking down exactly what I need to solder 30 g galvanized pipe seams, but your video and answers to questions have helped immensely. Thanks again.
4Not sure why its hard to find. Any hardware store will have propane/butane torches and fuel for $15. Finding a solder should be easy. Acid also for removing galvo. Unless you need to do a lot of it, or production quantity, I think its a lot cheaper with gas vs getting a bit 250w iron.
I've seen radial tubing soldered before.... I think it was for a hospital. I did some sheetmetal soldering in 1965. The soldering iron was heated in an open gas fired mini furnace, Then clean on a white plastic like block then tinned with solder. Thought it was Kool.
hvac01453 I’ve been taught by my old man, and that’s exactly how he does it, one in the burner while he uses the other one, first time i asked if there was a quicker way, jajaja, he told me, if your looking for the lazy way, just leave 🤣🤣
Fun to watch. In 25 years on the service side of the industry I’v never had to solder galvanized sheetmetal until now and I just needed a little reassurance that this is how it was done. That’s for the video
Hi there! Great video, very informative- but I have a few questions, hopefully you can answer. I assume this process could be used on galvanized sheet metal for roofing? I have some flashing that needs soldering- what kind of bar solder are you using? And how about your torch iron? Thanks again!
@@N.California I had to google it because I'm interested too. It seems that a Tin / Zink solder is what's commonly used for galvanised sheet steel. It ranges form 85% Tin and 15% Zink to 60% and 40% respectively. Hope this helps.
Thank you so much for the reply. I'm in the midst of a roofing job where all the flashing (step, valley, apron, cricket) is being done with 4 sheets of 4x10ft 24ga galvanized - what a bear to work with! I was "eyeball" diluting the acid 50/50 and yes, I could have used more cleaning action. So conc it is! I have a collection of maybe 20 rolls of solder, most of which the labels have come off. It is amazing how these solders vary. Some don't seem to stick to anything no matter what flux I use and one acid core roll wets like alcohol - impossible to wick a copper pipe joint. I had one nice roll of 50/50 which I used up. Next one that was barely usable was a 40/60 rosin core. The rest should be used for fishing weights... It's just that I have so much of this stuff....
Hi Billy........ 1 question what type of torch where you using where can I get ONE. My dad he used to heat it Gas stove top but he's in Heaven now. or can some one who knows please send me a message......THANKS. BTW GREAT PRESENTATION BILLY !!!!
www.stortz.com/product/aero-duplex-acetylene-soldering-kit/ This is very similar to what I used. The one I did use was about 30 years old though....lol
We use a muriadic acid for galvanized....and stay clean for copper and stainless.....although the stay clean worked well for the last galvanized pan i did. What do you use?
Never even dawned on me to check lol, I just checked my welding and HVAC distributors, my local welding supplies vendor carries all Harris products so been going with stay clean, works fine, but probably more expensive than getting it by the gallon, thanks for the tip
@@BillyKnoth Try a simple propane torch and Stay-Clean flux. Much faster, and you don't need the coppers or furnace. No waiting for shit to warm up. No Sal amoniac, no cleaning the coppers, no harsh acid. You can ruin shit real quick though, with too much heat.
@@iamtheman7018 Even better, use butane. Burn at 1300c vs propane 2000c. Just use it at close to its lowest setting so you're not putting too much heat into the metal to reduce warp. $15 plus some solder and you're good to go vs $200 for an 250w iron. Unless you're doing a lot as shown here, its cheap and easy using gas.
Wow Dude - Things you should mention: 1. Muriatic acid is very nasty stuff. Don't get it in your eyes or on your skin - if you do you will not like it - douse with water. If you leave any out or forget to cap the bottle the vapors will attack nearly everything metallic within a few feet. For long term storage you might want to "double bag" the bottle as it is relentless. 2. The solder used in most(?) tin shops is 50% lead/50%tin. Not a giant hazard to handle but it. is. lead. and lead is poison - store it and handle it as such - Shiny little blobs of metal and bendable shiny sticks are the sort of things children are attracted to. Obviously if whatever you are soldering will be in direct contact with food or drinking water you must use a lead free solder. 3. Do I have to mention safety glasses? As a youngster I had the pleasure of having a tiny blob of solder plucked from my eyeball. The minute you are near ANYTHING that has even the slightest chance of getting in your eyes you should put them on. Simple common sense.
I agree, and am rarely the safty-nanny. Common-sense tip- Soldering or acid in use means goggles at the minimum, gloves don't hurt. Also, if you have acid, have 2 pails of water, one with baking soda in it. I can see why they use MA as its cost effective, however for the home gamer who wants to try this, just spend $8 and get the small can of acid flux. Its doubtul you'll ever use the full can, so savings are small vs risk of having a jug of MA. I really doubt there are any children whatsoever running around that place.
Good job Billy tin knocking, I think I herd you say "full penetration" lol. I always like seeing how everyone dose things, good show of your soldering.
@@BillyKnoth That's weird. It's working from my phone but not my Desktop, although all other videos are working from my desktop. Anyway, the phone will work just fine. Thanks for checking.
Thanks for this video Billy. I learned this skill for my father many years ago in New Zealand. I did a little myself as a teenager but haven't touched it since. Here in the US, it has been difficult tracking down exactly what I need to solder 30 g galvanized pipe seams, but your video and answers to questions have helped immensely. Thanks again.
4Not sure why its hard to find. Any hardware store will have propane/butane torches and fuel for $15. Finding a solder should be easy. Acid also for removing galvo. Unless you need to do a lot of it, or production quantity, I think its a lot cheaper with gas vs getting a bit 250w iron.
Nothin more satisfying than flowing some terminator blood.
Absolutely!!!😁
That Melted like Butter. Nice job man! Came out great.
Good job and well done. Thumbs up !
I am a filipino and i like what you are doing... you share your knowledge.... i thank you......
I try my best. Thanks for watching
.... And what does being Filipino have to do with it?
Nicely done. I've wondered about that process but never seen it done -- glad you made the video. Thanks.
I've seen radial tubing soldered before.... I think it was for a hospital. I did some sheetmetal soldering in 1965. The soldering iron was heated in an open gas fired mini furnace, Then clean on a white plastic like block then tinned with solder. Thought it was Kool.
hvac01453
I’ve been taught by my old man, and that’s exactly how he does it, one in the burner while he uses the other one, first time i asked if there was a quicker way, jajaja, he told me, if your looking for the lazy way, just leave 🤣🤣
Nice video I learn how to Sauder for my pc box I'm makeing
Yeah ...you just gotta find that sweet spot and it melts so quick.... Thanks for watching!
Is that possible in stainless steel ??
What do you use for soldering?
Fun to watch. In 25 years on the service side of the industry I’v never had to solder galvanized sheetmetal until now and I just needed a little reassurance that this is how it was done. That’s for the video
Thanks for watching
Which use solder you, solder composition
will you source your tools? which tip and torch are you using? thanks
Hi there! Great video, very informative- but I have a few questions, hopefully you can answer. I assume this process could be used on galvanized sheet metal for roofing? I have some flashing that needs soldering- what kind of bar solder are you using? And how about your torch iron? Thanks again!
@@N.California I had to google it because I'm interested too. It seems that a Tin / Zink solder is what's commonly used for galvanised sheet steel. It ranges form 85% Tin and 15% Zink to 60% and 40% respectively. Hope this helps.
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Nice to see some quality tin work!
Excellent work , I enjoyed that Billy.
Thanks
What kind of torch you use to weld?what that calls?,
great vid billy.....you make it look easy.....
most apprentices these days have lost that skill, we still solder all our galv. roof flashings and drain pans, nice video
Thanks Randy!
very nice job - what iron are you using and do yiu have different for different configured flashing? thanks
Five years later still no answer on the iron. What is that thing!
@@zackpoll8893 we ended up buying the Perkeo Soldering Iron w/ Copper Bit....
Enjoyed the video billy as always I like sheet metal work great job lol I'm still learning how to use a Pittsburgh lock former lol
Lol... Hang in there
never seen galvanize soldered before, what percent solder is used?
Great job man nice work
what solder bar are you using. is there a link to buy ?
No link sorry.... Look for 50/50 bar solder
Where did you get that machine to weld
Can the same principle be used for aluminum flashing?
No... Unfortunately. Solder won't stick to aluminum
Wat kind of torch is that
what solder is that??/
Do you apply the solder to the iron or to the workpiece?
The iron
Hello, first of all, take it easy, what is the liquid you put before welding?
It's a killed muriatic acid
So what is the metal you melted with a soldering iron?
@@hakanakkus3773 50/50 lead
@@BillyKnoth I did not understand what this means
Yeah, what alloy solder and is the muriatic concentrated? (seems conc since turning yellow)
Nofer Trunions 50/50 solder. Straight muriatic acid.
Thank you so much for the reply. I'm in the midst of a roofing job where all the flashing (step, valley, apron, cricket) is being done with 4 sheets of 4x10ft 24ga galvanized - what a bear to work with!
I was "eyeball" diluting the acid 50/50 and yes, I could have used more cleaning action. So conc it is!
I have a collection of maybe 20 rolls of solder, most of which the labels have come off. It is amazing how these solders vary. Some don't seem to stick to anything no matter what flux I use and one acid core roll wets like alcohol - impossible to wick a copper pipe joint. I had one nice roll of 50/50 which I used up. Next one that was barely usable was a 40/60 rosin core. The rest should be used for fishing weights... It's just that I have so much of this stuff....
What type/brand of flux did you use?
KILLED MURIATIC ACID
Hi Billy........ 1 question what type of torch where you using where can I get ONE. My dad he used to heat it Gas stove top but he's in Heaven now. or can some one who knows please send me a message......THANKS. BTW GREAT PRESENTATION BILLY !!!!
www.stortz.com/product/aero-duplex-acetylene-soldering-kit/
This is very similar to what I used. The one I did use was about 30 years old though....lol
Thank you! This has helped me a great deal.
i need that soldring gun.
if u send me i will thankful to you.
how much it ???
in pakistan its not available
Good video thanks for the effort :)
What song is that?
Freakin cool man. I wanna learn to do that! Your guys shop is pretty sweet
If you are ever in NY you should stop in!
What business u work for?
Kuehnel sheet metal.... In lindenhurst NY.....
What brand / product of flux are you using?
We use a muriadic acid for galvanized....and stay clean for copper and stainless.....although the stay clean worked well for the last galvanized pan i did. What do you use?
Harris Stay Clean for stainless and galv. both, cant find a muriatic acid flux locally
We get a gallon of acid at home depot...
Never even dawned on me to check lol, I just checked my welding and HVAC distributors, my local welding supplies vendor carries all Harris products so been going with stay clean, works fine, but probably more expensive than getting it by the gallon, thanks for the tip
no problem !!!
What type of sheet metal are you using
24 ga. Galvanized
Excellent
Billy, Good stuff. Thx
Nice Job Billy
So... Did it work? I was so busy head banging I missed the video! :-D
Thanks for the video Billy.
Cool video man. Have you guys ever mig welded them or you guys just solder?
we don't weld.... just solder... our welders were under sea water during sandy.... I won't turn those things on...
Billy Knoth oh I see, smart move I wouldn't turn them on either lol.
Good tin work, Billy
Thanks man!!! I like to solder...its calming
thanks billy, job well done. I like to try this but I don't have a nice soldering iron like your. I wonder if I can use my mapp gas torch
Torch dosnt work...its to direct for the heat...it warps the metal horribly
OK
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@@BillyKnoth Try a simple propane torch and Stay-Clean flux. Much faster, and you don't need the coppers or furnace. No waiting for shit to warm up. No Sal amoniac, no cleaning the coppers, no harsh acid. You can ruin shit real quick though, with too much heat.
@@iamtheman7018 Even better, use butane. Burn at 1300c vs propane 2000c. Just use it at close to its lowest setting so you're not putting too much heat into the metal to reduce warp.
$15 plus some solder and you're good to go vs $200 for an 250w iron. Unless you're doing a lot as shown here, its cheap and easy using gas.
Nice job Billy
Thanks rob
What kind of solder is that ? 95/5 50/50
50/50
That's pretty cool Billy
+Billy Knoth Great video Billy!
Sir that chemical acid name
Thanks Ralph...
1.flux (muriatic acid)
2.soldering iron
3.?
When working with muratic acid I see a lot of people without glasses. That is so dangerous. Why take chances? That's so foolish..
Wow Dude - Things you should mention:
1. Muriatic acid is very nasty stuff. Don't get it in your eyes or on your skin - if you do you will not like it - douse with water. If you leave any out or forget to cap the bottle the vapors will attack nearly everything metallic within a few feet. For long term storage you might want to "double bag" the bottle as it is relentless.
2. The solder used in most(?) tin shops is 50% lead/50%tin. Not a giant hazard to handle but it. is. lead. and lead is poison - store it and handle it as such - Shiny little blobs of metal and bendable shiny sticks are the sort of things children are attracted to. Obviously if whatever you are soldering will be in direct contact with food or drinking water you must use a lead free solder.
3. Do I have to mention safety glasses? As a youngster I had the pleasure of having a tiny blob of solder plucked from my eyeball. The minute you are near ANYTHING that has even the slightest chance of getting in your eyes you should put them on. Simple common sense.
Take that safety shit somewhere else. If your that dumb and can't solder with out hurting yourself then you deserve it.
Thanks for the solder info. Exactly what I was looking for.
I agree, and am rarely the safty-nanny.
Common-sense tip- Soldering or acid in use means goggles at the minimum, gloves don't hurt.
Also, if you have acid, have 2 pails of water, one with baking soda in it.
I can see why they use MA as its cost effective, however for the home gamer who wants to try this, just spend $8 and get the small can of acid flux. Its doubtul you'll ever use the full can, so savings are small vs risk of having a jug of MA.
I really doubt there are any children whatsoever running around that place.
Great job Billy. I put some half round galvanized guttering up once. You make the soldering look easy!
Good job Billy tin knocking, I think I herd you say "full penetration" lol. I always like seeing how everyone dose things, good show of your soldering.
ComfortPlus Heating and Cooling its not all that bad.... Thanks for watching.
rasta1kikker thanks man. Thank you for watching
This video no longer works.
@@TerryRGraham works on my end
@@BillyKnoth That's weird. It's working from my phone but not my Desktop, although all other videos are working from my desktop. Anyway, the phone will work just fine. Thanks for checking.
Thats a beefy lazy susan and that soldering iron is on steroids.
No gloves?? Sheeshhhhhh
Why?
Why You Do This Soldering
If Is Not Strong ???
People Does Not Work,
It Get Easy Broken By Hands.
Amén.
It's strong enough... But more to be water tight
Lord Please Be Save Me What In Fuck Am I Listen To??????????
Leave the music off, please techno crap. It was even bothering my dog.
He don't explain anything!!! Just a video for "Likes"? Thanks, but no thanks!!!!
你们外国人做事就是严谨,在我们中国,早就饿死了