Another thing to note about the P1 manga is that they add to Naoya's backstory about him having an older twin brother named Kazuya that died when he was four. He become sort of a reoccurring villain in the story, with his spirit haunting Naoya and also working alongside Aki.
The manga does give a lot to SEBEC and Naoya. But the same can't be said about the Snow Queen Quest, they did put it in the story, but they rushed it a little and didn't felt as good as SEBEC, and there's a lot of good interactions with the party, NPCs and demons that they couldn't put in the manga. It probably is the best adaptation of a persona game, but it still lack some things that give it's charm to the game and a lot of live to mikage-cho.
@@iker-jk2096 You're right, the way they handled SQQ in the manga was kind of lame, but other than that, I loved the manga so much. And I don't even read manga normally.
@@giantclaw138I think SQQ should’ve happened before Maki Showed up, and let Yukino have Durga the whole story, would’ve been cool for the entire cast of nine main folks to always be together, but having eight of them was great
1:12 I just want to point out that "Megaten" isn't an abbreviation of specifically the Shin Megami Tensei series, it's an abbreviation of "Megami Tensei" as in the series as a whole, which includes Persona.
To add, none of the other Megaten spinoffs including Persona and DDS ever had "Shin Megami Tensei" in the title over in the Japan. It was a localization thing to help consumers who didn't know about the entire franchise. SMT IV was actually the best selling game in the Megaten series up until Persona 5, so the whole "Persona outshined SMT" thing isn't a factor.
@@yomama4240 Ehh, i would. Not even including the FF cameos, the game is essentially a FF game without the name. Same spells, the organization are all based on classes in FF, the combat has never been consistent in FF, extremely similar endgame structure, same status effects, same items, etc. I think KH and Persona are just testaments to how great a spinoffs can be, building their own history and legacy. Hell, I got into KH and Persona before FF and Megaten lol
The recent influx of P1 videos brings a smile to my face. It's a pretty great dungeon crawler from that era, I think. Though animations are a bit too long. Looking forward to watching this review.
@@PickleAndPearBTBM Most likely a collection or something to make it lot less confusing for new people when most people are more likely gonna think it's just multiple versions of a same game like with Pokemon rather than original and a sequel.
The legacy of first person dungeon crawlers went to Etrian Odyssey, another Atlus IP. And it seems that with Persona Q (2014) and Q2 (2019) it went full circle back to 1st person view Edit: to be fair dungeon crawlers have had a bit of success, albeit being a niche genre. For example, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (that got a Switch remake)
I started playing persona 1 on my PSP two or three weeks ago cuz I wanna play all the persona games and loved 5. Happy that 1 and 2 is getting more attention. Btw, the P1 remaster was complete yesterday. It was done by a fan, you can find it on Megami Tensei and persona subreddit. It's works on ppspp for PC and Android. Heard the encounter rate is lower too
It's really cool to finally see more ppl checking out Persona 1, albeit it is a VERY flawed. From the really bad dungeon design to the excruciating random encounter rate, it certainly is a frustrating game to play. Hell, when I played it, I even considered dropping in the back of my mind due to how uninteresting the characters were to me at first and the tedious af gameplay! The only thing that kept me going was honestly my love for the Persona series - given how it's my favorite video game franchise of all time - and just to say "I beat it". ...But my, thank GOD I didn't end up putting this game down permanently because when it gets good, it gets GOOD, imo. The story first off was pretty decent in the beginning and did interest me at least, but then when I got to the 2nd half I was all set to be on this crazy ride! Like it was insane how everything pieced together and I was left impressed by what I experienced. Not only that, I actually started really digging the characters at that time and ended up falling in love with each and every one of them as they did gain bits of development in the story and it was in that 2nd half where you started to learn a bit more about characters like Nanjo and Brown. Some of the subtlety of this game really sells you on the idea of the characters actually developing, it's just not put into the spotlight very much and is reserved for optional dialogue. Brown for example ended up being one of my favorite characters because of I could see his character beginning to shift from his usually portrayal via optional dialogue, and the info dump which is his backstory - although not preferable - adds more layers to his character which caught me in a pleasant surprise. However, Persona 1 does still boast the weakest story and characters, for sure, especially the characters. The 5th party member system, while a neat idea for creating personal playthroughs, I feel ends up hurting the overall experience since the characters you don't choose just... poof. It doesn't help that the mandatory characters, aside from Maki, don't receive much significant spotlight in the story. Yeah it adds replay value, but personally speaking, I don't find Persona 1 to be as replayable given how frustrating the gameplay already is and the story does admittedly get a bit more slow paced around the middle. The Snow Queen Quest I feel doesn't do much of the characters justice either except maybe Ayase, so the 5th party member system kinda hurts your attachment to these characters which therefore makes them a weaker cast, imo. And don't even get me started on Reiji! Like jesus, how did ANYONE figure out how to get the guy back then?! Overall, Persona 1 is very rough around the edges, but does have some good in it. It has a certain charm to it that's almost intoxicating and I'm happy to have spent my time with it and grew a love for it. If I had to score the game, I'd give it a 7/10. Great video, btw! You and Kamen make quite the entertaining pair! 👍
I wonder what people think Persona 2 is the best Sees Image of Maya Then pictures the leftover Persona 1 & 2 Mechanics combined with Persona 5 Mechanics: Why hasn't Atlus done this crap yet
Not gonna lie, I initially clicked on this video because I saw that Mangakamen was in the video, but I'm glad I did as I enjoyed this video. I watched a few more of your videos after this one and liked them too. Looking forward to your next video.
Nice review, ive been finding a lot more P1 reviews as of lately and it always seems to have more mixed responses. However i won't lie one segment of the review kindve irked lol. That would be the "beta PQ" comparison. I don't think its something you really knew if you didn't play the games, but older persona like P1 have the classic battle systems of Megami Tensei games, and following that Shin Megami Tensei games. First-person dungeon crawling with switchable demons/personas and your MC can die without a reset. It's not something I'd fault you for since i doubt you have much else to compare the P1 gameplay to, but its really Persona 3 where the gameplay becomes "unique" for persona. Someone else also talked about your Shin Megami Tensei title mistake too so i won't comment about that. Otherwise good review can't wait to see what you think of P2 duology!
By the way, have you noticed that the P1 Protagonist has the emperor arcana instead of the fool arcana? Yeah, the 90's era of Persona games (IF, 1 and 2) is a very different time in universe. A time where anyone can be as important as the joker cards.
man I really do hope persona 1 gets a remake again that could be like Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I’d love to see this story delve more into the characters through side mission bonding moments and have smartly designed dungeons to navigate in and out more easily. I like looking at persona 1 through the story moments and characters, it needs a better structure.
Fun fact maki sonomura is voice by Melissa fahn. A.k.a. in the voice of Neptune and Mirabelle from fire emblem awakening and the voice of hello kitty. This is ain’t her first time voicing in a SMT game. She voiced the character Yuzu tanikawa in Devil survivor overclock
*inhales* The encounter rates actually aren't high. Revelations lowered them and I think increased the money and EXP drops. What? Were you expecting me to quote the beginning of a song that's buried in your memories (with fear-ridden self-conciousness)?
Judging from your critiques of p1 you’ll enjoy 2 a whole lot better, it addresses almost all of your complaints. It’s also my personal favorites of the series
I wouldn't say that the drought of SMT V news was because of how persona has eclipsed the franchise in popularity. It just takes a long ass time to make those games (persona fans should know that considering how many delays persona 5 went through) and SMT V was revealed VERY early in it's development at the switch presentation, probably because nintendo knows how high quality the SMT franchise is, so they wanted to have SMT V revealed there to be one of the big reasons to get a nintendo switch. So that big drought of info about SMT V was just the team getting work done without much to say, and the teams that work on SMT and Persona are different from what i remember so it wasn't like the game was getting neglected by atlus.
6:15 But Persona one was the gamebthat started persona manual. And also he has a canon name and his design is actually really good, its not generic, I think its quite cool.
I got stuck in that dungeon where the protagonist and Maki have to go through by themselves, couldn't find the way out or forward and kept randomly dying to certain enemies, so I just gave up
It's important to navigate yourself using the minimap and seeing where you haven't been yet. If you try to navigate the dungeons by looking at the first person perspective you'll definitely get more confused
@@TrashorTreasure A good call. There's a reason why some people refer to it as "Persona 0". There was recently a fan translation of the Super Nintendo Version: www.romhacking.net/translations/3951/ Fun Fact, IF got a prologue chapter released on mobile phones. It was originally gonna be release in a special edition of the super Nintendo version, but Atlus didn't have the money to pull that off at the time: megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_if..._Hazama%27s_Chapter and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei_If... Another thing to note is that the Female Version of the Main Character of IF actually shows up in in person in Persona 1 and 2: megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tamaki_Uchida The Persona series very much includes IF as part of it's continuity. There are many references to the events of IF in Persona 1 and 2. Does that mean that the Persona Series follows the SMT continuity? No. Shin Megami If may be considered a side story to the main SMT Series, but it also sets itself in a alternate universe from the SMT series. The SMT continuity follows the premise of a demon apocalypse, while the IF/Persona Timeline sets itself in a reality close to ours. Sorry for the random factoids. Hope this helps!
just read the manga ya'll it's actually really good and in my opinion gets across the story better then the game. I did enjoy the game though it just requires a lot of patience and perseverance
It's funny because I was thinking about doing a persona spinoff marathon and I thought that would be og but then I found your videos and then I went damnit!
@@TrashorTreasure also about your point in the video about point in the video about smt and persona I personally think it's unfair to smt fans and an upcoming one such as my self that they have to wait about 3 years to get anything when all persona was doing was pimping out mediocre thing after mediocre thing. the anime is something that I can look at and make fun of every single frame and laugh at it. the dancing games are just waterd down versions of p4d that had season passes up to $85 that had a special edition that is just page's and an art and the disc you know not an actual art book so if you are someone like me who loves to see beta designs then screw you I guess.persona q2 from what I can remember is not as bad as q1 but if q1 is a D- then q2 is a C also the atlus shop flopped. thankfully persona 5 royal and scramble are here (or at least both are here in japan) royal while I don't like it as much as of it is still a good game and am obsessed with scramble and we have smt 5 and 3 remastered next year so looks like something atlus is on the right track again at least in my opinion.
spinball production I wouldn’t say the Persona games throughout the past three years have been mediocre per se (although arguably P5D came out too soon), but yeah, I do get that it is frustrating having to wait for an SMT game while Persona’s getting all the attention.
@@TrashorTreasure I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing with the art book and the season passes and P4D only being in the special edition with the art book I hope they don't pull that again because a certain other company got taken to court and I don't want them taken to court.big when persona 4 was big atlus still made megami tensei games but now we don't even get an announcement for smt 5 for three years and the sad thing is that persona wouldn't be anything without smt so it's kinda sad that they kinda removed it from the boxes.in conclusion in my opinion atlus if you make people wait for smt at least have good spinoff games.
The manga does fix the Flow of the story and give naoya a cool backstory. But meanwhile they made some new moments to the other characters they couldn't put a lot of the interactions and little side events there, and the Snow Queen Quest didn't get as much as SEBEC when it comes to development and upgrades. Meanwhile I think that is the best adaptation of a persona game I think that I prefer the game itself
Me: -*didn't look up a guide* -*thought the battles were* *really* *fast with* *very short attack animations* -*absolutely loves the PSP ost and can't get enough of a Lone Prayer* Frankly you can try Shin Megami Tensei or other spin-off games in the franchice, but i doubt you'll like any of them aside from maybe Devil Survivor, the games are all about combat gameplay wise a.k.a massive amounts of random encounters, and long deadly endless hazards between save points forcing you to actually think about what you're doing instead of being held by the hand the entire game.
Yes, because if there's one thing Persona's known for, especially P1 & P2, is that they hold your hand too much... Also, I enjoyed Digital Devil Saga in the time I put into it.
@@TrashorTreasure A lot of people do enjoy Digital Devil Saga, or at least its the image i have, and then can't get into SMT, which is weird to me since you can't even get demons in Digital Devil Saga, haven't played past the first few bosses myself yet. But to be fair a lot of people get into SMT, love it and then don't enjoy P1 and P2 a lot which again i don't really get, also just the image i have i could be wrong, im probably just crazy. PS: I didn't mean my first post to come out hateful or anything but it probably did come out that way, i get a little too defensive when anything's about P1 or P2, i don't know if you watch any anime or read manga but i recommend if you ever have time to read the P1 manga, really fleshes out the story and characters more, especially the MC Naoya, peace.
Dimensional Nemesis It’s cool, man. :) I have had a fair few people say I should read the P1 manga, which does make me curious as to why that comes so highly recommended. I’ve skimmed a little bit of the English translation online, and yeah it’s not bad so far. I’ll definitely finish it at some point, it’s just kind of a pain in the ass to read online. I’d preferably like physical copies, but I’m guessing they’re Japanese only? I’ll also give the SMT games a proper look at some day on this channel, probably starting with Nocturne when the HD version comes out next year.
@@TrashorTreasure Personally i gave it a 10/10 which is clearly biased XD, honestly don't remember everything anymore, i should reread it, i just remember being so overly happy how everyone got so much more screen time and growth, oh well its not like im perfectly sure but i don't think there's anyway P1 was popular enough here to get official books translated, so yeah physical books are japanese only, if reading online is a pain i'd recommend just plugging a HDMI cable through your PC and TV to read on big screen, its what i do, never as good as actual books but its something. All i can say about Nocturne is that its apparently the hardest SMT, im replaying it before the remake comes out and im reaching the halfway soon, and i think i can properly explain the reason for the difficulty, basically random encounters, mobs, demons can almost constantly get the first attack in on you regardless of not getting back attack/ambush, think it depends on party speed, stats, and difficulty, but for me on hard mode half the fights they get first attack, and i die before i get to move, so umm, just keep it in mind when choosing the difficulty i guess XP
Dimensional Nemesis Yeah, that’s what I thought. What a shame, but thanks for informing me anyway. :) I’ll give it a good read in my downtime regardless. Yeah, this is what I hear about Nocturne. I’ve kept that in mind, though the enemies getting the first turn on hard mode’s got me concerned a little. Can’t judge it until I try it anyway. I look forward to playing it still!
Lels auto battle exist since Digital Devil story: Megami Tensei and since I played SMT 1, all improvements in Persona 1 is cool for me! And it's not even my first persona game that I played yet still one of my fav atlus game.
I wish we could get a full remake of the game to expand the story and to keep the original soundtrack becuase I dislike the soundtrack of the Psp version in the context of the port and the music patch isn’t perfect. I also like the menu style in Revelations better and there is a PC port from Japan that was really cool but doesn’t run on modern hardware
ChiefMedicPururu That’s not a bad way to distinguish them, haha. Though personally I would choose to call Makoto Niijima “Mako-chan”, like Haru does. No reason. I just like the way it sounds. :)
Im excited for the p2 review, I hated the gameplay (psp version), but the story, characters, and atmosphere were so good. (I need to beat P2 EP though, I heard it was better on the gameplay front)
I couldn't make myself play the PSP version, it completely lacks the best part of the game - atmosphere and obscureness. The UI is ugly and has no personality, all the new features are set up just to complete the game as fast as you can, seems like it was the main point of the remake. Not to mention the worst - soundtrack. It's okay on its own but it doesn't fit the game a tiny bit. Original music and sfx were amazing, no idea why they couldn't just remaster it like they did in P2 PSP remake. The only good things in PSP version are a decent translation, additional quest and uncensored characters.
Fun Fact: Digital Devil Saga is not actually an SMT game. It's only been given that title in English. Over in Japan, it's called "Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner" and has no ties to the SMT franchise other than being a JRPG made by Atlus. So in truth, this guy has never actually played an SMT game outside of Persona.
ah yes, it is not a smt, if the game has the same demons and attacks of other smt games its only pure coincidence. (and literally a boss fight with Demi-fiend from smt 3 its a fcking coincidence too)
The only Persona game I have access to is Persona 4 due to it being on Steam and me not owning any Playstation systems. I have a switch and Xbox, and that about it. I plan on getting Persona 4 from steam via gift cards and also buying a controller since I'm unsure about the laptop controlls.
i want to play persona 1 but im torn between psp version and psx version...psx version has better music and psp version fixes alot of issues with psx version but has not a very good soundtrack(unless you like j-pop which i dont sorry...)
Well, I agree it's not aged quite so gracefully, but I hope you don't consider it shitting on you for me to say it still has a unique charm, can be enjoyable if you're used to this kind of game and know what you're getting into and is arguably the most accessible old school megaten, so if you disliked this game you'll REALLY hate SMT 1 and 2 (not to even mention the NES games) for example... which I do too in fact.
That's a bit harsh, it has flaws, but it has charm, if you're into old school rpgs (and I mean really old school, like, actually playing classic wizardry old school) you'll feel at home
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Naoya isn't that generic looking. He honestly looks kinda cool tbh.
I love his design. But one of his names on the other hand is absolutly bad, I mean "The boy with earing".
Yeah, the manga actually made me like his design quite a bit
It's so weird hearing someone say that Kazuma Kaneko made a generic character
The reason of the earing is quite sad as well
true, especially in the p1 manga
Thank goodness people are bringing persona 1 and 2 back
Took them long enough!
My turn
Tatsuya Suou he’s finally returned from obscurity
Another thing to note about the P1 manga is that they add to Naoya's backstory about him having an older twin brother named Kazuya that died when he was four. He become sort of a reoccurring villain in the story, with his spirit haunting Naoya and also working alongside Aki.
The manga was gold,just me or anyone feel the same.. that the manga more good than the game itself, especially on naoya development
Also eriko and naoya relationship really strong in the manga
The manga does give a lot to SEBEC and Naoya.
But the same can't be said about the Snow Queen Quest, they did put it in the story, but they rushed it a little and didn't felt as good as SEBEC, and there's a lot of good interactions with the party, NPCs and demons that they couldn't put in the manga.
It probably is the best adaptation of a persona game, but it still lack some things that give it's charm to the game and a lot of live to mikage-cho.
@@iker-jk2096 You're right, the way they handled SQQ in the manga was kind of lame, but other than that, I loved the manga so much. And I don't even read manga normally.
@@giantclaw138I think SQQ should’ve happened before Maki Showed up, and let Yukino have Durga the whole story, would’ve been cool for the entire cast of nine main folks to always be together, but having eight of them was great
1:12 I just want to point out that "Megaten" isn't an abbreviation of specifically the Shin Megami Tensei series, it's an abbreviation of "Megami Tensei" as in the series as a whole, which includes Persona.
To add, none of the other Megaten spinoffs including Persona and DDS ever had "Shin Megami Tensei" in the title over in the Japan. It was a localization thing to help consumers who didn't know about the entire franchise.
SMT IV was actually the best selling game in the Megaten series up until Persona 5, so the whole "Persona outshined SMT" thing isn't a factor.
A spin off can grow into its own thing, build its own legacy and still be a spinoff. Look at Kingdom Hearts
@@KiddRyzeDaGawd I wouldn't really call Kingdom Hearts a spin-off though
@@yomama4240 Ehh, i would. Not even including the FF cameos, the game is essentially a FF game without the name. Same spells, the organization are all based on classes in FF, the combat has never been consistent in FF, extremely similar endgame structure, same status effects, same items, etc.
I think KH and Persona are just testaments to how great a spinoffs can be, building their own history and legacy. Hell, I got into KH and Persona before FF and Megaten lol
Shut up please
The recent influx of P1 videos brings a smile to my face. It's a pretty great dungeon crawler from that era, I think. Though animations are a bit too long. Looking forward to watching this review.
Man what with the persona youtubers playing persona 1 lately?
Also persona 1 really need a remake. As well smt 1, 2 and if(as in persona 0)
Persona 2 too.
Phoenix gamer also Persona 2 2 too needs a rerelease
@@PickleAndPearBTBM Most likely a collection or something to make it lot less confusing for new people when most people are more likely gonna think it's just multiple versions of a same game like with Pokemon rather than original and a sequel.
I'm glad that Persona 1 got covered as it's one of my favorite video games. Yes it's flawed but I tend to love flawed games for some odd reason.
It’s the passion that went into it that won me over, despite the flaws.
I can relate, maybe because flawed games tend to try new weird stuff that no other game has tried before or since, makes for a unique experience.
The legacy of first person dungeon crawlers went to Etrian Odyssey, another Atlus IP.
And it seems that with Persona Q (2014) and Q2 (2019) it went full circle back to 1st person view
Edit: to be fair dungeon crawlers have had a bit of success, albeit being a niche genre. For example, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon (that got a Switch remake)
And also that extremely obscure DS dungeon crawler made by atlus that's literally a Wizardry 1 clone through and through, gotta love that
I highly recommend you check out the manga. It's pretty good.
I started playing persona 1 on my PSP two or three weeks ago cuz I wanna play all the persona games and loved 5. Happy that 1 and 2 is getting more attention.
Btw, the P1 remaster was complete yesterday. It was done by a fan, you can find it on Megami Tensei and persona subreddit. It's works on ppspp for PC and Android. Heard the encounter rate is lower too
Pls link
I wish it had the option for the original OST tho
It's really cool to finally see more ppl checking out Persona 1, albeit it is a VERY flawed. From the really bad dungeon design to the excruciating random encounter rate, it certainly is a frustrating game to play. Hell, when I played it, I even considered dropping in the back of my mind due to how uninteresting the characters were to me at first and the tedious af gameplay! The only thing that kept me going was honestly my love for the Persona series - given how it's my favorite video game franchise of all time - and just to say "I beat it".
...But my, thank GOD I didn't end up putting this game down permanently because when it gets good, it gets GOOD, imo. The story first off was pretty decent in the beginning and did interest me at least, but then when I got to the 2nd half I was all set to be on this crazy ride! Like it was insane how everything pieced together and I was left impressed by what I experienced. Not only that, I actually started really digging the characters at that time and ended up falling in love with each and every one of them as they did gain bits of development in the story and it was in that 2nd half where you started to learn a bit more about characters like Nanjo and Brown. Some of the subtlety of this game really sells you on the idea of the characters actually developing, it's just not put into the spotlight very much and is reserved for optional dialogue. Brown for example ended up being one of my favorite characters because of I could see his character beginning to shift from his usually portrayal via optional dialogue, and the info dump which is his backstory - although not preferable - adds more layers to his character which caught me in a pleasant surprise.
However, Persona 1 does still boast the weakest story and characters, for sure, especially the characters. The 5th party member system, while a neat idea for creating personal playthroughs, I feel ends up hurting the overall experience since the characters you don't choose just... poof. It doesn't help that the mandatory characters, aside from Maki, don't receive much significant spotlight in the story. Yeah it adds replay value, but personally speaking, I don't find Persona 1 to be as replayable given how frustrating the gameplay already is and the story does admittedly get a bit more slow paced around the middle. The Snow Queen Quest I feel doesn't do much of the characters justice either except maybe Ayase, so the 5th party member system kinda hurts your attachment to these characters which therefore makes them a weaker cast, imo. And don't even get me started on Reiji! Like jesus, how did ANYONE figure out how to get the guy back then?!
Overall, Persona 1 is very rough around the edges, but does have some good in it. It has a certain charm to it that's almost intoxicating and I'm happy to have spent my time with it and grew a love for it. If I had to score the game, I'd give it a 7/10. Great video, btw! You and Kamen make quite the entertaining pair! 👍
Thanks very much! I’m glad you ended up enjoying the game yourself. :)
I wonder what people think Persona 2 is the best
Sees Image of Maya
Then pictures the leftover Persona 1 & 2 Mechanics combined with Persona 5 Mechanics: Why hasn't Atlus done this crap yet
P2 is my second favourite Persona game.
@@benjamintic3653 same, I say this as someone who can't stand the gameplay
Not gonna lie, I initially clicked on this video because I saw that Mangakamen was in the video, but I'm glad I did as I enjoyed this video. I watched a few more of your videos after this one and liked them too. Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you very much, man! I’m really glad you enjoyed them!
27:00 Why you hating on the battle theme?
Look forward to watching your channel. Good luck for the future! x
Thanks very much! Hope you continue to enjoy the videos!
Nice review, ive been finding a lot more P1 reviews as of lately and it always seems to have more mixed responses. However i won't lie one segment of the review kindve irked lol. That would be the "beta PQ" comparison. I don't think its something you really knew if you didn't play the games, but older persona like P1 have the classic battle systems of Megami Tensei games, and following that Shin Megami Tensei games. First-person dungeon crawling with switchable demons/personas and your MC can die without a reset. It's not something I'd fault you for since i doubt you have much else to compare the P1 gameplay to, but its really Persona 3 where the gameplay becomes "unique" for persona. Someone else also talked about your Shin Megami Tensei title mistake too so i won't comment about that. Otherwise good review can't wait to see what you think of P2 duology!
Mark danced crazy!
Philemon's saga cannot be forgotten
"Mute boy it is"
Me: *cries in Naoya*
To be fair, Naoya have 3 different names
Phil MEAT
Nickname: Meatboy
I regret nothing
By the way, have you noticed that the P1 Protagonist has the emperor arcana instead of the fool arcana?
Yeah, the 90's era of Persona games (IF, 1 and 2) is a very different time in universe. A time where anyone can be as important as the joker cards.
The Crossover no one knew they wanted but everyone needed
Never knew you played digital devil saga. Hoping you review those games and the raidou games.
I'd say it's a relic of its time.
man I really do hope persona 1 gets a remake again that could be like Tokyo Mirage Sessions. I’d love to see this story delve more into the characters through side mission bonding moments and have smartly designed dungeons to navigate in and out more easily. I like looking at persona 1 through the story moments and characters, it needs a better structure.
Fun fact maki sonomura is voice by Melissa fahn. A.k.a. in the voice of Neptune and Mirabelle from fire emblem awakening and the voice of hello kitty. This is ain’t her first time voicing in a SMT game. She voiced the character Yuzu tanikawa in Devil survivor overclock
*inhales*
The encounter rates actually aren't high. Revelations lowered them and I think increased the money and EXP drops.
What? Were you expecting me to quote the beginning of a song that's buried in your memories (with fear-ridden self-conciousness)?
They didn't balance the money
@@iker-jk2096 that explains why I'm filthy fucking rich constantly then
Judging from your critiques of p1 you’ll enjoy 2 a whole lot better, it addresses almost all of your complaints. It’s also my personal favorites of the series
Man watching this influx on P1 videos makes me wonder something. Do people know why Persona it's called Persona and why did it keep that name?
Sadly no
I wouldn't say that the drought of SMT V news was because of how persona has eclipsed the franchise in popularity. It just takes a long ass time to make those games (persona fans should know that considering how many delays persona 5 went through) and SMT V was revealed VERY early in it's development at the switch presentation, probably because nintendo knows how high quality the SMT franchise is, so they wanted to have SMT V revealed there to be one of the big reasons to get a nintendo switch. So that big drought of info about SMT V was just the team getting work done without much to say, and the teams that work on SMT and Persona are different from what i remember so it wasn't like the game was getting neglected by atlus.
I consider this my favorite Persona.
Now is my turn
Oh cool! It’s MangaKamen!!!
6:15 But Persona one was the gamebthat started persona manual. And also he has a canon name and his design is actually really good, its not generic, I think its quite cool.
*Sigh*
IF YOU HAVE A PS3, Revelations Persona is available.
You do not need to go out and buy a playstation classic
Oh crap! You got Kamen here too! Niiiiiice
I got stuck in that dungeon where the protagonist and Maki have to go through by themselves, couldn't find the way out or forward and kept randomly dying to certain enemies, so I just gave up
It's important to navigate yourself using the minimap and seeing where you haven't been yet. If you try to navigate the dungeons by looking at the first person perspective you'll definitely get more confused
@@PedroMatos482 I was stuck at a point where I would die from random encounters before I could reach anywhere
Is Shin Magami If on that to do list?
Wasn’t planning on it originally, but I suppose it would make sense to talk about the game that inspired ATLUS to create Persona.
@@TrashorTreasure A good call. There's a reason why some people refer to it as "Persona 0".
There was recently a fan translation of the Super Nintendo Version: www.romhacking.net/translations/3951/
Fun Fact, IF got a prologue chapter released on mobile phones. It was originally gonna be release in a special edition of the super Nintendo version, but Atlus didn't have the money to pull that off at the time: megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_if..._Hazama%27s_Chapter and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shin_Megami_Tensei_If...
Another thing to note is that the Female Version of the Main Character of IF actually shows up in in person in Persona 1 and 2: megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Tamaki_Uchida
The Persona series very much includes IF as part of it's continuity. There are many references to the events of IF in Persona 1 and 2.
Does that mean that the Persona Series follows the SMT continuity? No. Shin Megami If may be considered a side story to the main SMT Series, but it also sets itself in a alternate universe from the SMT series. The SMT continuity follows the premise of a demon apocalypse, while the IF/Persona Timeline sets itself in a reality close to ours.
Sorry for the random factoids. Hope this helps!
just read the manga ya'll it's actually really good and in my opinion gets across the story better then the game. I did enjoy the game though it just requires a lot of patience and perseverance
Your reviews are gold man!
Thank you very much! :) Glad you enjoy them!
Treasure
Oh hey you got MangaKamen here too
It's funny because I was thinking about doing a persona spinoff marathon and I thought that would be og but then I found your videos and then I went damnit!
Do it if you want to, man. :) Don't let me stop you.
@@TrashorTreasure I'm actually playing through p2 IS right now
@@TrashorTreasure also about your point in the video about point in the video about smt and persona I personally think it's unfair to smt fans and an upcoming one such as my self that they have to wait about 3 years to get anything when all persona was doing was pimping out mediocre thing after mediocre thing. the anime is something that I can look at and make fun of every single frame and laugh at it. the dancing games are just waterd down versions of p4d that had season passes up to $85 that had a special edition that is just page's and an art and the disc you know not an actual art book so if you are someone like me who loves to see beta designs then screw you I guess.persona q2 from what I can remember is not as bad as q1 but if q1 is a D- then q2 is a C also the atlus shop flopped. thankfully persona 5 royal and scramble are here (or at least both are here in japan) royal while I don't like it as much as of it is still a good game and am obsessed with scramble and we have smt 5 and 3 remastered next year so looks like something atlus is on the right track again at least in my opinion.
spinball production I wouldn’t say the Persona games throughout the past three years have been mediocre per se (although arguably P5D came out too soon), but yeah, I do get that it is frustrating having to wait for an SMT game while Persona’s getting all the attention.
@@TrashorTreasure I'm pretty sure they knew what they were doing with the art book and the season passes and P4D only being in the special edition with the art book I hope they don't pull that again because a certain other company got taken to court and I don't want them taken to court.big when persona 4 was big atlus still made megami tensei games but now we don't even get an announcement for smt 5 for three years and the sad thing is that persona wouldn't be anything without smt so it's kinda sad that they kinda removed it from the boxes.in conclusion in my opinion atlus if you make people wait for smt at least have good spinoff games.
"I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS"
Have you guys read the manga of the first game?
Yes it was Extraordinary,i think the manga is better than the game itself
The manga does fix the Flow of the story and give naoya a cool backstory.
But meanwhile they made some new moments to the other characters they couldn't put a lot of the interactions and little side events there, and the Snow Queen Quest didn't get as much as SEBEC when it comes to development and upgrades.
Meanwhile I think that is the best adaptation of a persona game I think that I prefer the game itself
Great video as always m8
Thank you kindly!
Remaster not remake and still a better story than p5 but hey good video guys
Dream of Butterfly will always be the definitive Persona theme to me, damn it.
Me: -*didn't look up a guide*
-*thought the battles were* *really*
*fast with* *very short attack animations*
-*absolutely loves the PSP ost and can't get enough of a Lone Prayer*
Frankly you can try Shin Megami Tensei or other spin-off games in the franchice, but i doubt you'll like any of them aside from maybe Devil Survivor, the games are all about combat gameplay wise a.k.a massive amounts of random encounters, and long deadly endless hazards between save points forcing you to actually think about what you're doing instead of being held by the hand the entire game.
Yes, because if there's one thing Persona's known for, especially P1 & P2, is that they hold your hand too much...
Also, I enjoyed Digital Devil Saga in the time I put into it.
@@TrashorTreasure A lot of people do enjoy Digital Devil Saga, or at least its the image i have, and then can't get into SMT, which is weird to me since you can't even get demons in Digital Devil Saga, haven't played past the first few bosses myself yet.
But to be fair a lot of people get into SMT, love it and then don't enjoy P1 and P2 a lot which again i don't really get, also just the image i have i could be wrong, im probably just crazy.
PS: I didn't mean my first post to come out hateful or anything but it probably did come out that way, i get a little too defensive when anything's about P1 or P2, i don't know if you watch any anime or read manga but i recommend if you ever have time to read the P1 manga, really fleshes out the story and characters more, especially the MC Naoya, peace.
Dimensional Nemesis It’s cool, man. :) I have had a fair few people say I should read the P1 manga, which does make me curious as to why that comes so highly recommended. I’ve skimmed a little bit of the English translation online, and yeah it’s not bad so far. I’ll definitely finish it at some point, it’s just kind of a pain in the ass to read online. I’d preferably like physical copies, but I’m guessing they’re Japanese only?
I’ll also give the SMT games a proper look at some day on this channel, probably starting with Nocturne when the HD version comes out next year.
@@TrashorTreasure Personally i gave it a 10/10 which is clearly biased XD, honestly don't remember everything anymore, i should reread it, i just remember being so overly happy how everyone got so much more screen time and growth, oh well its not like im perfectly sure but i don't think there's anyway P1 was popular enough here to get official books translated, so yeah physical books are japanese only, if reading online is a pain i'd recommend just plugging a HDMI cable through your PC and TV to read on big screen, its what i do, never as good as actual books but its something.
All i can say about Nocturne is that its apparently the hardest SMT, im replaying it before the remake comes out and im reaching the halfway soon, and i think i can properly explain the reason for the difficulty, basically random encounters, mobs, demons can almost constantly get the first attack in on you regardless of not getting back attack/ambush, think it depends on party speed, stats, and difficulty, but for me on hard mode half the fights they get first attack, and i die before i get to move, so umm, just keep it in mind when choosing the difficulty i guess XP
Dimensional Nemesis Yeah, that’s what I thought. What a shame, but thanks for informing me anyway. :) I’ll give it a good read in my downtime regardless.
Yeah, this is what I hear about Nocturne. I’ve kept that in mind, though the enemies getting the first turn on hard mode’s got me concerned a little. Can’t judge it until I try it anyway. I look forward to playing it still!
Lels auto battle exist since Digital Devil story: Megami Tensei and since I played SMT 1, all improvements in Persona 1 is cool for me! And it's not even my first persona game that I played yet still one of my fav atlus game.
I wish we could get a full remake of the game to expand the story and to keep the original soundtrack becuase I dislike the soundtrack of the Psp version in the context of the port and the music patch isn’t perfect. I also like the menu style in Revelations better and there is a PC port from Japan that was really cool but doesn’t run on modern hardware
"Minato"
Manga name, tho, Kamen.
ChiefMedicPururu I actually put that in the script for him to save confusion when talking about the two Makotos in the series.
@@TrashorTreasure Oh. To remedy that, I call Makoto Yuki "Makoto-kun" while Makoto Niijima, I call her "Makoto-chan".
ChiefMedicPururu That’s not a bad way to distinguish them, haha. Though personally I would choose to call Makoto Niijima “Mako-chan”, like Haru does. No reason. I just like the way it sounds. :)
@@TrashorTreasure Oh, OK, Mako-chan, it is!
Im excited for the p2 review, I hated the gameplay (psp version), but the story, characters, and atmosphere were so good. (I need to beat P2 EP though, I heard it was better on the gameplay front)
5k subscribers in over 3 years? Criminal!
Opened up this channel around ten years ago now. :)
It's funny, my first interaction with Persona, and SMT as a whole, was with the PSP port of Persona 1.
I couldn't make myself play the PSP version, it completely lacks the best part of the game - atmosphere and obscureness. The UI is ugly and has no personality, all the new features are set up just to complete the game as fast as you can, seems like it was the main point of the remake. Not to mention the worst - soundtrack. It's okay on its own but it doesn't fit the game a tiny bit. Original music and sfx were amazing, no idea why they couldn't just remaster it like they did in P2 PSP remake. The only good things in PSP version are a decent translation, additional quest and uncensored characters.
Persona is still Megaten. Persona 3 and 4 were only called SMT outside of Japan. Persona 5 dropped the SMT. It's still Megaten.
You know before persona 5 smt 4 was atlus bestselling game.
To be completely honest, I wouldn't compare the persona 1 music to persona 5 music because of the massive time gap,,
Persona 1 Psx soundtrack completely destroys Persona 5
@@dokkanbattleplayer2921 honestly I agree
Persona 1 is my second favorite persona game.
I played it second, and like it more than the others for some reason.
Fun Fact: Digital Devil Saga is not actually an SMT game. It's only been given that title in English. Over in Japan, it's called "Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner" and has no ties to the SMT franchise other than being a JRPG made by Atlus. So in truth, this guy has never actually played an SMT game outside of Persona.
ah yes, it is not a smt, if the game has the same demons and attacks of other smt games its only pure coincidence.
(and literally a boss fight with Demi-fiend from smt 3 its a fcking coincidence too)
He has a sorta canon name: Yuuya.
Yeah but no one really knows the Drama CD of Persona 1.
The only Persona game I have access to is Persona 4 due to it being on Steam and me not owning any Playstation systems. I have a switch and Xbox, and that about it.
I plan on getting Persona 4 from steam via gift cards and also buying a controller since I'm unsure about the laptop controlls.
What about now? (Still no classic persona though, the only ones I've ever played... I'm dead inside)
When i get the part that persona 1 is persona q beta.... emm... well persona q is based with persona 1 and etrian oddysey gameplay anyway
i want to play persona 1 but im torn between psp version and psx version...psx version has better music and psp version fixes alot of issues with psx version but has not a very good soundtrack(unless you like j-pop which i dont sorry...)
11 months later, there's a mod to unjapanify the PSP music if you're interested
Persona 1 is my third favorite persona game
Jokes on you guys P1 was my first persona game.... I've never been the same since.....
I think Persona 1 fans are pretty annoying just shitting on anyone who doesn’t like it I respect it but I think it has showed it’s age
Well, I agree it's not aged quite so gracefully, but I hope you don't consider it shitting on you for me to say it still has a unique charm, can be enjoyable if you're used to this kind of game and know what you're getting into and is arguably the most accessible old school megaten, so if you disliked this game you'll REALLY hate SMT 1 and 2 (not to even mention the NES games) for example... which I do too in fact.
U should read the manga too,it was great,just me or anyone thinking same that ,p1 manga more better than game itself especially on naoya development
And most SMT fans are in complete denial
i knew it was magna just by voice alone
How are you Reviewing this??? Everyone knows Persona 1 & 2 don't exist 😂
"trash or treasure"
The game isn't trash, its a junkyard
yes I agree
That's a bit harsh, it has flaws, but it has charm, if you're into old school rpgs (and I mean really old school, like, actually playing classic wizardry old school) you'll feel at home