The MANIPULATION of HYBE and ADOR (min heejin vs bang sihyuk)

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  • @Adobongsinigangnamangga
    @Adobongsinigangnamangga 7 месяцев назад +41

    MHJ shows a very alarming characteristics of being a narcissist. So I don't think that she will back down and she will continue to use nwjns as her shield and make new speculations and rumors to deflect the attention away from her.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад +5

      Yea, that does seem to be her strategy for the most part. The whole initial accusations cannot really just be discounted to jokes and casual convos.

    • @kimjeon_2016
      @kimjeon_2016 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​​ @cloudchungxiao It's only a matter of time before the whole world fully learns of all the atrocities that she did and sees her for what she truly is! NJ, their parents, and their fandom will be ashamed for supporting her! May God and the Universe work in favor of HYBE!
      The laptop is the key evidence.

    • @NatalieMarie917
      @NatalieMarie917 7 месяцев назад +4

      I’m glad someone else sees it (the narcissism). I’ve been saying this the whole time.
      The biggest giveaway for me was during that press conference when she claimed that the members of New Jeans felt so bad for her and made a point to say their parents are on her side as well. That’s a classic attempt to manipulate people to 1) feel bad for you and 2) view you as being in the right even though most people would naturally disagree with you.
      And pretty much everything she has said since then continues to reinforce that notion.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      I mean it's interesting you are going so hard yourself against her when all the things you are learning are mostly hearsay. Seems like both sides have done some bad which should not be overlooked. I do wonder whether you believe every other accusations being made by Min Hee Jin about HYBE are all lies or potential truth that you are intentionally pivoting to focus more on Min Hee Jin's misdeeds.
      Not sure how you feel about the verdict, which is another slight unfortunate for HYBE in terms of public perception which seems to be what a lot of people focus more on. But for outsiders who know not too much; they'll assume that Min Hee Jin was in the right.

  • @Winnangh
    @Winnangh 7 месяцев назад +29

    My main issue with MHJ has always been the way she uses NewJeans as the social equivalent of human shields. I mean, it's kinda genius, and it works even on me. Just because I'm aware of it doesn't make me any less concerned for the future of the group.

    • @Usery5439
      @Usery5439 7 месяцев назад +3

      new jeans trust her. she have spoiled the girls so hard now they think they need her to be successful. That's why MHJ choose the youngest idols from source music so that she can manipulate them easily. This was a well executed long term plan. I hope she will gets fired and New jeans will continue under HYBE. HYBE has flaws too, but they treat their idols well.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад +2

      Yea, the association of New Jeans being on Min Hee Jin side does make it seem like if you're against Min Hee Jin then you're against New Jeans too in an indirect way. Kpop seems to always feel like it has to be black or white. There is no inbetween which is why it's smart because New Jeans have become scapegoats to deflect and minimise the thorough look into everything.
      As for the long term plan thing; that is an interesting opinion. Don't think that was necessarily her reasoning for choosing younger idols from source music. Plus from the sounds of how she describes the formation of New Jeans; I think age was a factor for sure but she wasn't just taking any young idol.
      As for HYBE treating their idols well; this is where that confirmation bias is coming from. Like Ador/Min Hee Jin technically is treating their idols well too but from your perspective; it's a manipulation tactic from long ago. However, when it comes to HYBE, they treat their idols well; and so their leeways to the flaws of HYBE. Not sure what flaws you are aware about but defs interesting to see the different sides.

    • @NatalieMarie917
      @NatalieMarie917 7 месяцев назад

      @@Usery5439my guess is that behind the scenes she has been telling those girls that everyone else is against them and no one else can/will help them succeed the way she does (and probably that no one else cares about them the way she does). I wouldn’t be surprised if she also does a lot of guilt-tripping and talks endlessly about all the sacrifices she has made for them.

    • @Usery5439
      @Usery5439 7 месяцев назад

      @@NatalieMarie917 of course she did. that's why she chose the youngest members from source music so she can spoil them hard, gain their trust and manipulate them. and she even had said that they think they can't survive without her. now these girls don't see the risk. they completely depend on her.

  • @over_yonder2677
    @over_yonder2677 7 месяцев назад +15

    Hybe needs to clean house and get rid of this satan version of a woman.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад +2

      Interesting take there. I feel like HYBE should really reconsider their operational label structure with the many acquisitions they have had on companies. As for Min Hee Jin, she really needs to re-evaluate and substantiate her claims a bit more than just throwing stuff out here and there like that.

  • @nicoleloss7987
    @nicoleloss7987 7 месяцев назад +11

    Min is the highest paid employee at hybe.

    • @nicoleloss7987
      @nicoleloss7987 7 месяцев назад +4

      Because she fooled them.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад +1

      Yea, that definitely also doesn't help her case. I mean unless it was some form of nepotism, which it isnt, the salary reflect her well informed knowledge within the industry so the whole small worker imagery just doesn't make sense.

  • @Amelia12385
    @Amelia12385 6 месяцев назад +1

    been waiting on this one 😩

  • @nicoleloss7987
    @nicoleloss7987 7 месяцев назад +12

    It will all be solved in court by facts

    • @CaroleMcDonnell
      @CaroleMcDonnell 7 месяцев назад +1

      Public opinion affects the court's attention to the facts.

    • @nicoleloss7987
      @nicoleloss7987 7 месяцев назад

      Hybe has alot of evidence against min. Plus other hybe labels are now petition the court against min.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад

      Yea, hopefully the court system can resolve this.
      Not sure how much public opinion will affect the courts decision because wouldn't they just be looking at the facts and evidence presented?
      As for the other HYBE labels petitioning against Min Hee Jin; I mean how much interactions have they had to truly know what it happening to the fullest extent. They are all owned by HYBE so it kinda makes sense that being subsidiaries to the parent of HYBE; they would for the most part be on the side of HYBE.

    • @vidarost6983
      @vidarost6983 7 месяцев назад

      Court doesnt reflect absolute truth

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      Ohh that's for sure. It's always a case by case basis considering nothing is perfect and so you can't say anyone's decision can accurately represent maybe the whole facts when a lot could have still been hearsay making the court decision reflect a small proportion of the issue.

  • @nicoleloss7987
    @nicoleloss7987 7 месяцев назад +14

    Hybe has a right to audit any company they own. Hybe has alot of evidence against min. Which hybe has give to the police and court. Hybe manager also volunteer to be interviewed by the police.
    None of min stories make any sense. She didn't turn in her computer.

    • @nothingnothing6036
      @nothingnothing6036 7 месяцев назад +1

      She avoid from being audited because she has something to hide. She even try to postpone so that she has the time to erase the evidence.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад

      I mean we defs will see with the results of what happens in court, but at this point in time; neither have provided much substantial evidence besides their own accounts to what is happening so it's interesting to see some sides flip flop every few days and then other heavily defend one side like they also have the evidence to actually know why that side is right.

  • @DonnaBernauer
    @DonnaBernauer 7 месяцев назад +4

    Supporting MHJ is sooo last month, she's history. Unfortunately, New Jeans, their families and the staff of Ador have been caught in the web of MHJ's lies, manipulations and sabotage, foolishly following their leader into the abyss of the cult of Min Hee Jin. Only time will tell if Hybe sees New Jeans as redeemable or if they should cut their losses and be done with the moderately talented little upstarts.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      Assuming "Supporting MHJ is sooo last month." refers to switching teams to HYBE, I'm not sure that's really a mindset you should be having. Assuming the support for MHJ you refer to relates to just general support for bringing up New Jeans before all this drama happened, well there has been a lot of brought up history of questionable things that MHJ has done so not sure if this HYBE issue was your catalyst or something.

    • @DonnaBernauer
      @DonnaBernauer 6 месяцев назад

      @@cloudchungxiao Hahaha, yeeaaahhh, no. No switching teams here, just a wee commentary for the die-hard bunnies. Thanks for the attempted psycho-analysis, it gave me a good laugh.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha right. Nah for sure, I think people can form their own opinions however they want. It's just the whole uno reverse that seems to happen more frequently in the kpop community from eager people. It's kinda died down now with most of it happening kinda behind the scenes so hopefully this can get resolved between just the two parties.

  • @michaelmitchell7350
    @michaelmitchell7350 6 месяцев назад +2

    Plagiarizing what? NewJeans isn't a original group themselves😂😂😂😂 there is nothing original about K-POP the whole concept was copied from the west. Those are not my thoughts K-POP ceo's like Chairman Bang have this himself and there's nothing wrong with that but when you have Min Hee Jin throwing around that word its hilarious. She copied her concept for NewJeans so what the hell is that woman talking about.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      Yea, very few things in these newer generations are actually original. There is a lot of inspiration that occurs to form each groups concept or sound. Definitely an interesting pivot she chose which is now backfiring with the whole mexican girl group of Jeans.

  • @JMeve
    @JMeve 7 месяцев назад +2

    Honestly the both suck free NewJeans from these rumors 😢

    • @MinSugaCheonjae
      @MinSugaCheonjae 7 месяцев назад +2

      Honestly hybe hasn't done anything bad to newjeans, so free NewJeans from MHJ ✊

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      Yea, not sure how long this will continue to go for, but I do wanna say most of it may be sorted-ish. There seems to be more that HYBE will try to do but I don't think it's gonna be completely plastered everywhere and we won't be getting back and fourths.
      As for HYBE "not doing anything" to New Jeans. I mean they did have plans to put New Jeans on a questionable extended break to find a grammy producer which is kinda side-worthy. That's just me maybe but not sure HYBE's reasoning for this considering nothing about New Jean's music screams grammy producer made these songs type of vibes. I mean that's just one thing that I know for sure has been responded to by HYBE's CEO. There are other things but not sure how validated they were.

    • @MinSugaCheonjae
      @MinSugaCheonjae 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@cloudchungxiao the extended break thing was something that one of NewJeans' parents allegedly said. It hasn't been confirmed but HYBE, so not sure why you're blaming hybe for it.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  6 месяцев назад

      I mean they did respond to it diplomatically in a way that detracts the the claims made by the parents allegedly. However, the fact that it was aired can definitely alter the words vs action from HYBE. There are definite instances that look side-eye worthy beyond this even if you don't quite believe this example, but only proper valid evidence will legitimise both sides which I don't think either side will be doing in the public.

  • @pennymikk
    @pennymikk 7 месяцев назад +1

    team mhj forever lol

    • @over_yonder2677
      @over_yonder2677 7 месяцев назад +8

      Mhj is a snake in the grass. You must be so proud of yourself.

    • @cloudchungxiao
      @cloudchungxiao  7 месяцев назад +1

      First Min Hee Jin supporter in the comments hahaha. I do wanna know whether the algorithm for you has shown more pro-min hee jin content / social posting? because I feel like for me it's kinda flip flopped back to more HYBE support.
      As for the snake in the grass and being proud of yourself; not sure how that helps add to anything but you do you i guess.