The driving sequences in Ronin were absolutely extraordinary, for its time or any other. Has the chase scene in Paris been surpassed, or even equalled, with real cars and real drivers since? As far as I can tell there is only one real digital imposition in the scene, at the very end of the chase when Natascha McElhone, and Jonathan Pryce's car is sent spinning off the end of a bridge and you see them through the front windscreen as they go over the edge. Monsieur Lagniez, 'Bravo!'
My favorite movie from the 1sr time I saw it. I will watch anything with DeNiro. His relationship with Jean Reno in RONIN was extraordinarily written and played. Just overall one of the best movies ever made. To bad John Frankenheimer died of a stroke in 2002. What a shame he didn't live to do more great work.
This dude was probably responsible for the "Taxi" franchise aswell, because Samy Naceri's stunt double was none other that Jean-Louis Schlesser, an actual WRC and Dakar champ of 1998 and 1999
Frankenheimer allowed Skip Sudduth, one of the actors (Larry) to do the actual high-speed driving. However, he gave him one directive. He didn't want to see any brake lights.
I completely disagree about his statement about American car chases being better because their movies have more budget. None of the car chases in Hollywood movies look as realistic as the ones shot in France such as Ronin, Transporter, Taxi etc.
Agree. Car chases in us movies is based on show off but actually bad driving with losing time oversteering at each corner , rarely takes the racing lines etc. On this one, the driving is efficiency based with minimal oversteer and better use faster lines round the corners etc.
Ronin has been one of my top 5 movies since the day it came out. Still the best car chase movie ever. Got to meet Frankehimer about 30 - 35 years ago. True car guy.
And even when it isn’t CGI these days, the colour correction and post processing is usually overdone to fuck Ronin took a very naturalistic approach to visual presentation and aesthetics in general, something I wish more big budget movies would experiment with these days
I own and have seen this film over 20x. It's so bad I can recite a good bit of the lines. Furthermore, watching this film is the main reason why I want an E34. I would also have to agree with the stunt driver coordinator on his remarks. American car chase scenes just seems too forced and many do not exhibit the technical skill to the level of the car chase scenes in Ronin. The S8 at the beginning and while dodging the Citroën was extremely technical and you knew it was a professional handling both vehicles in that frame. The way both were just in and out of traffic and from a cinematic perspective, it was shot perfectly. It was literally a car chase. The E34 535i vs the Peugeot was just perfection. The 535i was just dancing on the streets in Paris and you can feel the intensity. To date, that will be the best car chase and I do not think any film featuring a car chase can live up to the standards of this one. I can just watch this scene over and over again. It was like listening to Paganini's Violin Concerto No1 I D. Totally sublime of a scene.
This is an incredible car chase and you'll laugh at the foreshadow when there is a close-up of fish at the outdoor farm market. There should be a movie about farm market workers all interacting before a car and motorcycle chase crashes through it.
RONIN's several car chase are easily the BEST ever filmed... but BULLITT's are still fifty years later the most ICONIC! That may sound like a direct contradiction, but the difference is RONIN's chases through the dense streets of Paris and the French countryside are full of different pieces of action. They are more complex and better choreographed with a lot more editing of various angles. With BULLITT, they have that green VW Bug that passes four times and all those hubcaps coming off the Dodge Charger, still it wins an Oscar for best editing... But BULLITT is not just ICONIC because of Steve McQueen, but the very Ford Mustang he drives. The car is every bit a legend as he is. BULLITT kicked-off a whole new sub-genre of car chase movies that continues to this day, only chases now are more about CGI animation, fast dizzying cuts and impossible comic book stunts. RONIN is a great thriller with a superb cast, well written and directed, but it failed at the box-office, probably because of the drab title and bad marketing by MGM. The thirty year difference between the two movies, still sees BULLITT as being the most talked about, bisected and revered despite all the competition, and really the movie that inspired the team behind RONIN!
The sequence will forever be in the textbooks of filming car chases. It was made not with making profit in mind. It was made with passion. Modern movies producers just no longer have the passion of creating something worth watching. Instead they created Rey skywalker and batwoman LOL
I disagree with him on the part that US chase scenes are better. I feel like european chase sequeces feel way more realistic and atmospheric compered to those in the US.
Agree. US car chase is based on show-off , actually using bad and in effective driving while euro car chase ( this one included) are based on efffective driving , use of fastest lines, minimal under/oversteer etc.
The Americains are not able to do such movies! All they do actually is, often cheap, remakes of older movies! Nothing new in their todays movie making anymore, no imagination!
@@jameshoran8 That's a myth, which presumably started from the similar appearance and happening within a short time of each other: 'One spectacular pursuit takes place inside a Paris tunnel that is remarkably similar to the location where England's Princess Diana was killed in a 1997 automobile accident. The filming took place in a different tunnel, however. "Paris has lots of tunnels, " Frankenheimer said. "That's part of the thing about the city I wanted people to see. A crash in a tunnel in Paris is about like someone having a crash on a freeway here. It happens all the time' (Rocky Mountain News,9/27/98). As @11:12 that was shot in the Les Halles tunnel network, princess Diana's crash was in the Pont de l'Alma underpass - it's only 150m long and perfectly straight (but with a bend in the road just prior) The Les Halles network is a kind of loop, and all parts combined make 4km in total, which I guess made it ideal for shutting down & filming. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/2012-07-16_Paris_plan_de_restructuration_de_la_voirie_souterraine_des_Halles.jpg The Champerret Tunnel is also mentioned as filming location, presumably for a different scene(possibly a non-driving scene) I'd imagine many of the tunnels look similar, as it would make sense to repeat the same structure type. Aside from being in poor taste, I couldn't imagine any film company would want to risk the public backlash of filming a car chase in the same tunnel anyway, presumably nor would they be likely to get approval.
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That car chase alone, is better than the entire fast & furious franchise.
Absolutely. (... even the Nice-part already, tbh ...)
And it isn't even the best part of Ronin.
Totally agree!!!!!
Only because it’s really done
Well said!!!
The driving sequences in Ronin were absolutely extraordinary, for its time or any other. Has the chase scene in Paris been surpassed, or even equalled, with real cars and real drivers since? As far as I can tell there is only one real digital imposition in the scene, at the very end of the chase when Natascha McElhone, and Jonathan Pryce's car is sent spinning off the end of a bridge and you see them through the front windscreen as they go over the edge.
Monsieur Lagniez, 'Bravo!'
I think a few car interior shots might be
nothing to the same extent but Bourne series came close.
I doubt that those scenes will it will be equaled soon....
this was the last real car chase movie we ever saw, I remember watching it many times when I was a kid, GOD I loved it so much
They *REALLY* did not fuck around at ALL with this scene in this movie. Best chase *EVER*
My favorite movie from the 1sr time I saw it. I will watch anything with DeNiro. His relationship with Jean Reno in RONIN was extraordinarily written and played. Just overall one of the best movies ever made. To bad John Frankenheimer died of a stroke in 2002. What a shame he didn't live to do more great work.
the stunt work and capturing are kino tier. CG has nothing on this. This is heart and soul.
Legendary chases and stunt's work from an unforgettable masterpiece.
Miss the late 90s, grew up with these flicks.
Best car chase movie ever made. God know's what driving that S8 sitting above the rear bumper must have felt like though..!
That's why the Audi has been in the transporter twice such an amazing car ❤
This dude was probably responsible for the "Taxi" franchise aswell, because Samy Naceri's stunt double was none other that Jean-Louis Schlesser, an actual WRC and Dakar champ of 1998 and 1999
Frankenheimer allowed Skip Sudduth, one of the actors (Larry) to do the actual high-speed driving. However, he gave him one directive. He didn't want to see any brake lights.
He was apparently an amateur race driver.
The best car chase in cinema history
That sudden reverse gear+hand brake was damn man. Great car chase scene ever
Master piece. Never to see this level of cinema with such cool cars again.
I completely disagree about his statement about American car chases being better because their movies have more budget. None of the car chases in Hollywood movies look as realistic as the ones shot in France such as Ronin, Transporter, Taxi etc.
Agree. Car chases in us movies is based on show off but actually bad driving with losing time oversteering at each corner , rarely takes the racing lines etc. On this one, the driving is efficiency based with minimal oversteer and better use faster lines round the corners etc.
@@ssssssss6889 Agreed, it's total precision.
The 406 handles like magic.
Porsche as a camera car is brilliant!
Mayor - you have free hands, M'sieu. The great city of Paris is at your disposal.
Lagniez - Oh... really?
Words cannot express how much I love this movie
And there will NEVER be a movie made like this again. Incredible.
Incredible video! Thank you for sharing. Ronin footage is getting increasingly difficult to find, but this is absolute gold. 🙌
Amazing chase and a great movie!
Ronin has been one of my top 5 movies since the day it came out. Still the best car chase movie ever. Got to meet Frankehimer about 30 - 35 years ago. True car guy.
the best crime thriller ever filmed
they don't make movies like this anymore! all is Computer-generated BS! beautiful movie and you can tell how much effort was put into it.
And even when it isn’t CGI these days, the colour correction and post processing is usually overdone to fuck
Ronin took a very naturalistic approach to visual presentation and aesthetics in general, something I wish more big budget movies would experiment with these days
The best car chases are made by french in my opinion.
I think you meant the best car chases are made IN France.
Mercedes W115 in the brown color is so beautiful..Many years ago ive got W123/84Sedan in the same dark brown metallic..
w116
Years ago i had the exact sama Audi S8.. in green, with beige interior and a manual 6-speed gearbox
Its a W116 6.9, my dreamcar
Excellent video thanks for posting.
I love that the behind the scenes is "yeah so basically we just did it"
Thank you ,Paris Chief of Police ,if dont let them do it ,we will never seen the best Car Chase scene of all time
Legend film 🎥
I was so inspired by the chase scene I made a music video for that.
Maravilhoso!! Parabéns pelo magnífico filme!
what a great upload! thx!
1998 and got this and taxi, both featuring the Peugeot 406
I own and have seen this film over 20x. It's so bad I can recite a good bit of the lines. Furthermore, watching this film is the main reason why I want an E34. I would also have to agree with the stunt driver coordinator on his remarks. American car chase scenes just seems too forced and many do not exhibit the technical skill to the level of the car chase scenes in Ronin. The S8 at the beginning and while dodging the Citroën was extremely technical and you knew it was a professional handling both vehicles in that frame. The way both were just in and out of traffic and from a cinematic perspective, it was shot perfectly. It was literally a car chase. The E34 535i vs the Peugeot was just perfection. The 535i was just dancing on the streets in Paris and you can feel the intensity. To date, that will be the best car chase and I do not think any film featuring a car chase can live up to the standards of this one. I can just watch this scene over and over again. It was like listening to Paganini's Violin Concerto No1 I D.
Totally sublime of a scene.
This is an incredible car chase and you'll laugh at the foreshadow when there is a close-up of fish at the outdoor farm market. There should be a movie about farm market workers all interacting before a car and motorcycle chase crashes through it.
Awesome behind the scenes.
Never has a title on RUclips video been more correct.
And yes, it is miles better than Bullitt's. That only gets attention because of Steve McQueen.
Sympa le capot de Z3 en arrière plan 👌
Et la M5 e34 😍👌
This is excellent.
Thank you
The 7 Ups had the greatest car chase.
Not a great movie though. Just because you produce The French Connection, it doesn't follow you can direct like Friedkin.
Very impressive 👍.
Le top merci ! / the best tanks
At least we have the English subtitles on and I think we need to look for the English actors voice to go on top of this mans speech
some say the actors did their own driving some say they didn't I don't know what to believe
RONIN's several car chase are easily the BEST ever filmed... but BULLITT's are still fifty years later the most ICONIC!
That may sound like a direct contradiction, but the difference is RONIN's chases through the dense streets of Paris and the French countryside are full of different pieces of action. They are more complex and better choreographed with a lot more editing of various angles.
With BULLITT, they have that green VW Bug that passes four times and all those hubcaps coming off the Dodge Charger, still it wins an Oscar for best editing... But BULLITT is not just ICONIC because of Steve McQueen, but the very Ford Mustang he drives. The car is every bit a legend as he is.
BULLITT kicked-off a whole new sub-genre of car chase movies that continues to this day, only chases now are more about CGI animation, fast dizzying cuts and impossible comic book stunts.
RONIN is a great thriller with a superb cast, well written and directed, but it failed at the box-office, probably because of the drab title and bad marketing by MGM.
The thirty year difference between the two movies, still sees BULLITT as being the most talked about, bisected and revered despite all the competition, and really the movie that inspired the team behind RONIN!
Vive la France!!!
Where can you get those yelloe cigarettes!
Great chase scenes but the Peugeot bmw chase ended a bit anticlimactic, the close shot of the car lifting looked a bit lazy.
The sequence will forever be in the textbooks of filming car chases. It was made not with making profit in mind. It was made with passion.
Modern movies producers just no longer have the passion of creating something worth watching. Instead they created Rey skywalker and batwoman LOL
I disagree with him on the part that US chase scenes are better. I feel like european chase sequeces feel way more realistic and atmospheric compered to those in the US.
Agree. US car chase is based on show-off , actually using bad and in effective driving while euro car chase ( this one included) are based on efffective driving , use of fastest lines, minimal under/oversteer etc.
The only cool thing The French helped us with
it could never be filmed in the 'safe ' America
But he saids the opposite, more easy in USA...
I agree this is a great car chase, but have any of you folks seen "Bullitt?" Or "The Bourne Supremacy?"
Have many people really drive original mini's at Paris?
The Americains are not able to do such movies! All they do actually is, often cheap, remakes of older movies! Nothing new in their todays movie making anymore, no imagination!
Not even close
They shoulda put Lady Dianas crash, in this car chase
This is sick.
@@user-bj2lu9qt3o yes, but in a bad way.
@@martian9999 absolutely.
They actually use the tunnel in which her car crashed. Her accident was actually before the filming of this movie
@@jameshoran8 That's a myth, which presumably started from the similar appearance and happening within a short time of each other:
'One spectacular pursuit takes place inside a Paris tunnel that is remarkably similar to the location where England's Princess Diana was killed in a 1997 automobile accident. The filming took place in a different tunnel, however. "Paris has lots of tunnels, " Frankenheimer said. "That's part of the thing about the city I wanted people to see. A crash in a tunnel in Paris is about like someone having a crash on a freeway here. It happens all the time' (Rocky Mountain News,9/27/98).
As @11:12 that was shot in the Les Halles tunnel network, princess Diana's crash was in the Pont de l'Alma underpass - it's only 150m long and perfectly straight (but with a bend in the road just prior)
The Les Halles network is a kind of loop, and all parts combined make 4km in total, which I guess made it ideal for shutting down & filming.
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/2012-07-16_Paris_plan_de_restructuration_de_la_voirie_souterraine_des_Halles.jpg
The Champerret Tunnel is also mentioned as filming location, presumably for a different scene(possibly a non-driving scene)
I'd imagine many of the tunnels look similar, as it would make sense to repeat the same structure type.
Aside from being in poor taste, I couldn't imagine any film company would want to risk the public backlash of filming a car chase in the same tunnel anyway, presumably nor would they be likely to get approval.
"Behind the scenes of the worlds greatest movie car chase"....!!???.....What a joke!!!Get a Life!!!
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what's your beef? Got something better to offer?
@@martian9999 he's gonna say something like *fast and furious*
Whats your point?. Its a great chase and Frankenheimer is a professional