DedGrafic is a great animator. Sonic Frontiers is a good game, and Sonic could be as strong as his Archie counterpart since the game itself takes place after Sonic Forces and current issues of IDW Sonic. And I wish Hyper Sonic came back.
@@VoidBornHumanMaybe it's enough to exaggerate? No matter how strong archie sonic is pre super genesis wave, he can't beat the super form on the base, much less with one shot. After all, he defeated the super scourge simply realizing that after the transformation he would run out of steam and cunningly forced him to detransformed. Moreover, he said that their super forms are equal and that his form can last longer.
@@u.l.t006well now it looks like super sonic frontiers just kick super sonic 4 and ultra instinct sonic ass even if they are in full power they lose again
@@u.l.t006 Kai said how in the hell did he overpowered super Sonic 4 and ultra instinct sonic Dakie said I don't know but I can tell sonic in frontier timeline he's a lot stronger and faster than those guys have
1:04 Imagine showing up with a new transformation like you're about to solo everybody but than you get rekt Immediately in one hit. Talk about anticlimactic.
This is why Super Sonic is my favorite transformation and frontiers my favorite video game they did him justice game sonic I my version I stick with this is awesome and yeah dedgrafic is a phenomenal animation for sprites:)
You know. Frontiers super/hyper sonic won against mui and ssj5 with kioken is unexpectedly unfair to a db fan like me untill i remember something. In sonic frontiers. Sega majorily buff sonic and his super form (Damn i missed sonic's hyper form and im a sonic fan too)
There's a reason - he's sick and tired of being considered stronger, even though they just stole the forms from the dragon ball, and after the release of the frontiers, he finally sogs to show them the true power of his original super form.
@@user-qf5fj3mk8e who's they? And whoever they is, they never stole the forms from dragon ball Z, there many differences and the whole franchise knows it, super sonic, hyper sonic and any other form of Sonic's is original to him, or if not original at least inspired, but I'm not gonna argue as these comments were months ago . _.
I've said this all before but I feel like saying it again seeing the real super sonic trash and dunk these fakers is nice to see, Super Sonic is an homage to Dragon Ball's Super Sayian. but He doesn't have to just be a copy. when I see- Super Sonic 2-4 or blue, it just doesn't sit right with me. Super Sonic is allowed to be it's own thing without constantly referencing the source material, SSonic 4 is the opposite of what Super is trading away the original form and it's possible meaning and identity to just rip off dragon ball. seeing this fight is more than just a cool animation with awesome sprites. it's showing the audience that regardless of Super being a copy it doesn't have to be just that, super destroying 4 and blue is showing us that. by destroying the real rip-offs with what it brings to the table, this being showcased through the Frontiers Move set. while Blue is just ripping off Kaioken, Super is slamming them with the Phantom Rush. while 4 is just ripping off the Dragon Fist and I think limit breaker, Super is using the Sonic Boom and afterimages. all this ending with Super Sonic showing the two fakers and the audience in one final attack, that even though He's inspired/copying OG Super Sayian. He's not JUST a copy, that He's allowed to exist without constantly being compared to the Saiyan. this may just be me reading too much into a good animation, but I like reading in :)
Kinda in aww since I’m really not the right person you should be discussing this to, but with the original animator or creator of the animation itself.
Imagine the highest gods to not even be comparable to you, and then the original you comes in and wipes the floor with you in a transformation several stages below yours.
The OG Super form is actually leaugues above any DBS Sonic multiplier,and Super Sonic showed them alot of mercy because you can do anything within your imagination when u use chaos control.
Dragon all forms are just multipliers to the base form power meanwhile the chaos emeralds literally make you a god at everything you do and the super emeralds give literally infinite power. Seeing as sonicdbs base form is around neighborhood level power, that means after the multipliers that come with even his strongest form (blue, 4, Mui, etc) he is still basically a coughing baby next to frontiers Sonic’s hydrogen bomb
@@u.l.t006 I see the confusion lemme clarify. Sonic himself’s base form power is neighborhood level. That means that with dbs multipliers it won’t be all that much of an increase next to the chaos emeralds which give universal power level on their own.
@@dinnerlord65I believe the only reason your comparing sonics base power to neighborhood level is because he has no ki based attacks unlike shadow and his chaos blast (I hope I'm right or else I'm taking back your sonic fan card)
Mui is not really a multiplier due to it really being a technique if anything it's like the exact same thing as super sonic, basically granting goku god-like and massive amounts of danger sense.
I mean if those powers of those other sonics were something frontiers sonic could use then well he would probably be just unstoppable in general as frontiers sonic may have more raw power then those other sonics but if he had their forms then he might become even more op
@u.l.t006 I don't really know about dmc so can tell me the first game? so I can get caught up cause he killed the shi out of goku black and I wanna figure out why.
No, thats not the point. Since his Frontiers vs Sonic dbs and dbaf was in 3 seperate parts I might go ahead and make it into one so you’d watch it in one setting instead of clicking or swiping to the next. All it is was to make it easier for people who like watching ded’s videos watch it ez’er like this.
If this supposed to be sonic betting the dbz fan that loves making similarities then you have to beat sonic team to and there new form nah they need to beat super sonic to
It's not his video's It's just like full video of the shorts, and HE HAS THE OWNER'S NAME IN THE DESCRIPTION.. Get a Eyesglasses bro cuz your like blind.
I don’t think super sonic vs MUI would be that one sided is MUI he can’t me hit at all so I don’t know how sonic pulled the magic of bs out of his ass but no just no but besides all that crap generally, the animation is good plus if sonic went through the events of db all the way up to dbaf sonic (frontiers) would have a lot more trouble even in hyper. hyper just swing a lil over 10x stronger than super nit that big in a increase like ssj4 to ssj5. And ssjB to mui even if sonic (frontiers) base was stronger he would not have enough forms to keep up the multiplier of Mui and ssj5 is just insane bro
The Chaos Emeralds have limitless potential, compared to the absurd (but still limited) power of MUI. The power gap between Super Saiyan and Super Sonic would be like a human caught in a nuclear blast. Add on the 10x (as you say) power boost of Hyper, and yeah, Sonic's wiping the floor. Remember, Super Sonic was the only member of the cast to be able to damage Solaris (who was literally occupying every timeline in every universe at the same time) directly, wheras Shadow and Silver had to use either Chaos abillities or deflect Solaris' attacks. Also, considering you have a Dragon Ball PFP and call yourself 'King Saiyan', you have _no_ right to talk about the 'magic of bs.' Goku first went Ultra Instinct, surpassing the highest gods, at conveniently the _exact_ moment he'd need some new bs power to get out of his situation.
@@randominternetman8177 first of all no one was talking about goku I said if sonic went through the events of db to dbs and dbaf he would whoop sonic (frontiers) don’t get goku into this goku is he immune to hax plus he would whoop him to in dbs when goku used ui for the first time it was said the he was shaking the null just by existing and the null is said to be infinite with infinite dimensions and space even being bigger than all the universe’s combined which are said to be low outerversal in size or just infinite and that’s just the bottom of each universe and that’s just mui plus mui or even ui is not limited it is just stuck at the limit the user can use at that time if it was limit goku would be dead goku was easily able to move around and deflect infinite speed attacks in ui just ui me being called “king saiyan” has nothing to do with this you name is literally random you random person and there are multiple videos explaining this plus hyper is not even canon if you want to bring non canon shit into this I will to this versions of goku in base can destroy the sonic verse J.F goku ,xeno goku .cc goku . gag kid goku . Dbk goku. Godfusion goku. Goku in dbs alone has bigger feats than beating someone who can eat universe and timeline goku has beaten timeless beings where time does not even exist in base plus gokus durability and speed are faster than sonic base to base super sonic has a massive weakness it has a timer which goku does not in mui or pmui or tui even if super sonic was stronger super sonic can scale to multiversal to high multiversal goku can scale to low outerversal to mid outerversal because of his training and just limitless potential and tui of course but even if goku is stronger they would probably become great friends at the end of the fight
@@Lord_AINZ_edits well, saying “goku is immune to hax” just hammers my point home that db is poorly written at times, and me pointing out your identity is me trying to say you’re obviously going to have a bias towards the db forms wtf does shaking the null have to do with anything? ultra instinct was still pulled out of goku’s ass right when he needed it, and even then we can still see his entire power aura when he summons it, that’s less than the infinite power of the emeralds. hyper was gonna be brought back for frontiers, but sega didn’t want it in to avoid power creep (unlike _another_ series we’re discussing), and even then it wouldn’t be necessary for sonic to wipe the floor, as he’s still more than fast enough to keep up with ultra instinct
@@Lord_AINZ_edits1)Outversal goku has been debunked stop using it 2)Sonic in super is multiversal due to solaris. Solaris was a 4D being who ate dimensions for lunch(stated by eggman a dude with 300 iq), he also was eating the concept of time and was going to collapse reality but didn’t due to sonic and friends. And before you say they jumped him, technically not. Solaris exists in the present,past,future, sonic had to fight present solaris, shadow past solaris and future solaris fought against silver And for hyper sonic scaling. Well. A master/super emerald can turn someone into super sonic. Hyper takes 7 super emeralds. Therefore it’s a 7 times super sonic multipler to base sonic 3)due to dbs rules, you can be immune to a hax if your stronger than the opponent but since this hyper is already stronger than mui,tui goku doesn’t have immunity 4)There is no scaling with mui,tui since they have no multipliers
![Sonic (Frontiers) VS Sonic Black [Full Animation]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/dtGCO9rm5u4/mqdefault.jpg)
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DedGrafic is a great animator. Sonic Frontiers is a good game, and Sonic could be as strong as his Archie counterpart since the game itself takes place after Sonic Forces and current issues of IDW Sonic. And I wish Hyper Sonic came back.
I totally agree.
Archie Sonic could oneshot Game Super Sonic in base
@@VoidBornHuman Pre-Super Genesis Wave? Archie Sonic definitely one-shots.
Post-Super Genesis Wave? It's a stalemate confirmed by Ian Flynn himself.
@@VoidBornHumanMaybe it's enough to exaggerate? No matter how strong archie sonic is pre super genesis wave, he can't beat the super form on the base, much less with one shot. After all, he defeated the super scourge simply realizing that after the transformation he would run out of steam and cunningly forced him to detransformed. Moreover, he said that their super forms are equal and that his form can last longer.
Archie?HAHAHAHA. Nop.
1:43 i never thought sonic had memes
I like to imagine that sonic has just grown tired of him and his franchise being compared to Goku and Dragon Ball
yeah
@@u.l.t006
Who do you think is stronger
Goku with all his cannon forms
Or
Sonic with all his forms from the games
@@fandomman8822Sonic
@@fandomman8822*Me. Why? I'm gonna make this short, my power has been scaled to 5D and above. Don't believe me? Search up how strong I am.*
@@fandomman8822sonic mid - high diff
This has to be my favourite use of the Chaos Emeralds, constructing anything made out of Chaos energy is always a treat!
indeed, W Dedgrafic for the whole thing.
@@u.l.t006well now it looks like super sonic frontiers just kick super sonic 4 and ultra instinct sonic ass even if they are in full power they lose again
mhm your most definitely right.
@@u.l.t006 ( super sonic frontier increase his speed and his strength to overpowered super Sonic 4 or ultra instinct sonic)
@@u.l.t006 Kai said how in the hell did he overpowered super Sonic 4 and ultra instinct sonic Dakie said I don't know but I can tell sonic in frontier timeline he's a lot stronger and faster than those guys have
1:34 perfect sync
yup
how it feels to get jumped by some person that is stages above you, while fighting your friend
fr
Gosh this little series is such a hilarious spite match and sideeye to the db verse.
Not too suprising, knowing the bias of dedgrafic towards sonic.
Bros were just going for a sparring match and Frontiers Sonic just interrupts and kills them 💀
true sonic is bad for that
since those two sonic are supposed to be like goku, then he probably did it because they were destroying and endangering the lives of several people.
Two Sonics basically goku and vegeta
1:04 Imagine showing up with a new transformation like you're about to solo everybody but than you get rekt Immediately in one hit.
Talk about anticlimactic.
Damn frontiers sonic is beating the shit out of them two
fr.
@@u.l.t006for real yo
Sonic out here proving he doesn't need no dbz transformation to be badass
yes he is proving it because he's using "Super sonic"
(is literally using a form based off Super Saiyan)
How gonna tell him
@@KKAnimsMeh, only the colors resemble a Super Sayan. Other than that, the Super and Super Sayan forms and completely different.
I love his animations, dope as hell and wish to do the same. (DedGrafic
i agree. it'd be really cool if he did Archie Silver vs Enerjak since he did Enerjak vs Super Sonic.
This is why Super Sonic is my favorite transformation and frontiers my favorite video game they did him justice game sonic I my version I stick with this is awesome and yeah dedgrafic is a phenomenal animation for sprites:)
i agree lmfao
You know. Frontiers super/hyper sonic won against mui and ssj5 with kioken is unexpectedly unfair to a db fan like me untill i remember something.
In sonic frontiers. Sega majorily buff sonic and his super form
(Damn i missed sonic's hyper form and im a sonic fan too)
Base Frontiers Sonic would be more than enough for these two
probably.
Fanboy
True
someone made an entire fan animation based off of this (its called sonic [frontiers] vs sonic black)
Need to see that then
Aquí esta, amigo:
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@@u.l.t006it's basically like Zamasu stole the Current Sonic's body and they fought
He even got Rose form and Chaos emerald's Power.
I love how he just goes 1:43
AAAAA
yeah lmfao
Holy shit
Frontiers sonic is kickass
I mean he beat both of them like it was nothing
Don’t underestimate Game Sonic they say.
@@u.l.t006 understandable
@@colerowe8890agree
@@u.l.t006underestimate game sonic and that would be their downfall
@@u.l.t006”Archie Sonic is the strongest So-“
*Frontiers comes out*
“Nuh uh”
When you realize game sonic is severely more busted than any of his counterparts
Fake/fan made dbzonic trash VS the authentic Super/Hyper Sonic.
But fr, Dedgrafic's stuff is incredible. That Hyper Sonic finisher was clean.
fr fr
Bro threw in hyper to rub salt in the wound 💀
bro is just mad disrespectful
Now that’s a real mix up!😎
yasir
Sorry ultra instinct and ultra ego! You been replaced! Hyper form with super chaos emeralds and master emerald is MVP!😎
Cannon sonic was so pissed of there existence.
fr
MUI Sonic and SSJ 5 Sonic: *Exist*
Game Sonic: “And I took that personally.”
ui and super 5 sonic: how? how are you so strong?
frontiers sonic: i'm the original
him being the original, obliterated the fakes.
Original 🤣🤣🤣🤣
WOW THANKS
your welcome 👍
1:46 bro really thought he was cooking 😂
isn't wrong for me to like the fanmade form versions of Sonic (the DBZ one) than canon one
Sorry it's my preference
Ain’t gonna judge you for who or what you like, and i respect that preference.
It's funny to me because sonic team is literally like this and love doing homage
Frontier/Original Sonic had enough and putting his variant from that franchise put in shame.
Nah, the disrespect Game Sonic showed to the two fakers was insane 💀
U would think ui would dodge but I guess super sonic is just too fast
yup
0:05 bro Sonic (Frontiers) just pulled up and chose violence for no reason 😭 the other 2 was just minding they business. 😭
Frontiers Sonic is just a Villain for interupting there sparing match.
@@u.l.t006 wait he was a villain?
@@zykemolds794 no he isn't but I'm just saying that he acts like one.
There's a reason - he's sick and tired of being considered stronger, even though they just stole the forms from the dragon ball, and after the release of the frontiers, he finally sogs to show them the true power of his original super form.
@@user-qf5fj3mk8e who's they?
And whoever they is, they never stole the forms from dragon ball Z, there many differences and the whole franchise knows it, super sonic, hyper sonic and any other form of Sonic's is original to him, or if not original at least inspired, but I'm not gonna argue as these comments were months ago
. _.
1:25 HE NEED SOME MILK
i hate how lil bro barged in
I've said this all before but I feel like saying it again
seeing the real super sonic trash and dunk these fakers is nice to see, Super Sonic is an homage to Dragon Ball's Super Sayian. but He doesn't have to just be a copy.
when I see- Super Sonic 2-4 or blue, it just doesn't sit right with me. Super Sonic is allowed to be it's own thing without constantly referencing the source material, SSonic 4 is the opposite of what Super is trading away the original form and it's possible meaning and identity to just rip off dragon ball.
seeing this fight is more than just a cool animation with awesome sprites. it's showing the audience that regardless of Super being a copy it doesn't have to be just that, super destroying 4 and blue is showing us that. by destroying the real rip-offs with what it brings to the table, this being showcased through the Frontiers Move set. while Blue is just ripping off Kaioken, Super is slamming them with the Phantom Rush. while 4 is just ripping off the Dragon Fist and I think limit breaker, Super is using the Sonic Boom and afterimages.
all this ending with Super Sonic showing the two fakers and the audience in one final attack, that even though He's inspired/copying OG Super Sayian. He's not JUST a copy, that He's allowed to exist without constantly being compared to the Saiyan.
this may just be me reading too much into a good animation, but I like reading in :)
huh
Kinda in aww since I’m really not the right person you should be discussing this to, but with the original animator or creator of the animation itself.
@@u.l.t006 DedGrafic told a story of inspiration vs copycats
The Super Sonic vs the Super Saiyan
Super Sonic vs Super Sonic blue/4
It's not that deep + doesn't Change that it has ssj design all over it It's his on thing on some level not that much
If Superior Sonic (Super Sonic 5 and Mastered Ultra Inctist Sonic)had super emeralds and Chao Emeralds from different universe then 💀☠️
Nuh uh, because only those with Chaos Control can use the Chaps Emeralds.
Meanwhile
XYZ Sonic (my take on 238 Sonic,SSXU Sonic and DBS/DBF/Xenoverse) :i want to learn about Chaos Emeralds,Master Emerald and Sol Emeralds
Imagine the highest gods to not even be comparable to you, and then the original you comes in and wipes the floor with you in a transformation several stages below yours.
Frontiers Sonic was just mad disrespectful ☠️
@@u.l.t006frontier sonic is mad because Why
The OG Super form is actually leaugues above any DBS Sonic multiplier,and Super Sonic showed them alot of mercy because you can do anything within your imagination when u use chaos control.
@@Nexus99866 yeah, i know. i was talking in dbs scale. canon super sonic solos and it isn’t even close
@@randominternetman8177 KK
Dragon all forms are just multipliers to the base form power meanwhile the chaos emeralds literally make you a god at everything you do and the super emeralds give literally infinite power. Seeing as sonicdbs base form is around neighborhood level power, that means after the multipliers that come with even his strongest form (blue, 4, Mui, etc) he is still basically a coughing baby next to frontiers Sonic’s hydrogen bomb
gyatt can’t believe you compared dbs sonic to neighborhood level ☠️🙏
@@u.l.t006 I see the confusion lemme clarify. Sonic himself’s base form power is neighborhood level. That means that with dbs multipliers it won’t be all that much of an increase next to the chaos emeralds which give universal power level on their own.
@@dinnerlord65I believe the only reason your comparing sonics base power to neighborhood level is because he has no ki based attacks unlike shadow and his chaos blast (I hope I'm right or else I'm taking back your sonic fan card)
@@dinnerlord65???? Sonic is Star Buster level, dude.
Mui is not really a multiplier due to it really being a technique if anything it's like the exact same thing as super sonic, basically granting goku god-like and massive amounts of danger sense.
Super sonic frontiers vs dark sonic or sonic exe?
no he’s fighting 2 dragon ball variants of sonic.
can i ask a question why did sonic interrupt their fight
You might want to ask Dedgrafic about that.
I mean if those powers of those other sonics were something frontiers sonic could use then well he would probably be just unstoppable in general as frontiers sonic may have more raw power then those other sonics but if he had their forms then he might become even more op
eh
@@u.l.t006basically imagine frontiers sonic going MUI
Is Frontiers Sonic stronger than Archie Sonic?
He could be 🤔
well idk
its both ways either they say Game sonic is strongest or Archie is.
but it depends on there feats
It's a big maybe
1:43
What did gt sonic do to you
I love the animation but this is plot armor for sonic frontiers
Subarrashii.
@@u.l.t006 boi what?
@@Goku_Black_divivnity its what goku black says bro...
This is not plot armor. It's just that Super Sonic finally showed his true power, against which the goku transformation had no chance to surpass him.
@@user-qf5fj3mk8e Super Sonic in Frontiers might have surpassed Archie Super Sonic if were being honest.
The Original Form of Sonic that can destroy the whole Universe
Vs
The trash fandmade Dbs Sonic and GT Sonic.
fax
That was too easy
Flawless victory
So tell me, does this will make Goku solo anything? 🤣
nope obviously not since he’d definitely get pummeled just like his sonic variants.
My guy, Game Sonic finna obliterate Goku into nothingness if they fight.
surely sonic had to stop then becasue they're fight could the whole universe for sure
He’s too fast and broken😂😂😂😂
gave both of them the black air force treatment.
Tbh frontiers sonic wanted them to stop fighting.
Reminds me of the time Nero showed up with his new DT transformation to stop Vergil and Dante’s retarded battle in DMC5.
@u.l.t006 I don't really know about dmc so can tell me the first game? so I can get caught up cause he killed the shi out of goku black and I wanna figure out why.
Chronologically the first game would be DMC3 where it involves a weaker younger dante and vergil, then DMC1, DMC2, DMC4, and lastly DMC5.
also I think he killed Goku Black because Burraku was taunting him I believe and either underestimating Vergil since he didn’t possess any God ki.
Game Sonic went mad and insane
there can only be “one” sonic.
@@u.l.t006
Yeah
Game Sonic (Post Frontier)vs Archie Sonic (Pre SGW + Post SGW)
Try Xeno sonic
ask that to dedgrafic, not me.
also if you mean change dbaf to xeno then no since xeno only has ssj4 + exclusive ssj4 limit breaker and not ssj5
A Xeno Sonic oils probably do some damage, but still wouldn’t be enough. Not even a CC Sonic.
so whats the point of reposting his videos?
for views? for subscribers?
No, thats not the point. Since his Frontiers vs Sonic dbs and dbaf was in 3 seperate parts I might go ahead and make it into one so you’d watch it in one setting instead of clicking or swiping to the next. All it is was to make it easier for people who like watching ded’s videos watch it ez’er like this.
He wants to make people happy or excited!
Got a problem with that huh?
If u have a problem then leave.
DRAGON BALL Z ULTRA INSTINCT SONIC
Dragon Ball Super you mean, but okay
If this supposed to be sonic betting the dbz fan that loves making similarities then you have to beat sonic team to and there new form nah they need to beat super sonic to
E
Sonic kill sonic
Sonic teams up with Sonic to defeat Sonic but Sonic kills both Sonic and Sonic because Sonic’s eaten Sonic’s chilly dogs.
@@u.l.t006facts my guy
this is basicly sonic VS two Sonics with the power of bullshit
yeah lmfao
facts 🤣
Isn't that normal Sonic to
@@saadsami8860 not really
This video isn’t your video btw
He knows. He simply combined them so that you could watch them not in the form of shorts. He even wrote the author's name.
thank you for explaining it to him
It's not his video's
It's just like full video of the shorts, and HE HAS THE OWNER'S NAME IN THE DESCRIPTION..
Get a Eyesglasses bro cuz your like blind.
how did that sonic have mui and help from ssj5 sonic and still get clapped?
idk its dedgrafics animation
@@u.l.t006 true
You could say game sonic is.. “undefeatable”
@@blue-flare7060 faxs
Because super form increases its attributes exponentially infinite and has ability to do whatever you want.
I don’t think super sonic vs MUI would be that one sided is MUI he can’t me hit at all so I don’t know how sonic pulled the magic of bs out of his ass but no just no but besides all that crap generally, the animation is good plus if sonic went through the events of db all the way up to dbaf sonic (frontiers) would have a lot more trouble even in hyper. hyper just swing a lil over 10x stronger than super nit that big in a increase like ssj4 to ssj5. And ssjB to mui even if sonic (frontiers) base was stronger he would not have enough forms to keep up the multiplier of Mui and ssj5 is just insane bro
yeah
The Chaos Emeralds have limitless potential, compared to the absurd (but still limited) power of MUI. The power gap between Super Saiyan and Super Sonic would be like a human caught in a nuclear blast. Add on the 10x (as you say) power boost of Hyper, and yeah, Sonic's wiping the floor. Remember, Super Sonic was the only member of the cast to be able to damage Solaris (who was literally occupying every timeline in every universe at the same time) directly, wheras Shadow and Silver had to use either Chaos abillities or deflect Solaris' attacks.
Also, considering you have a Dragon Ball PFP and call yourself 'King Saiyan', you have _no_ right to talk about the 'magic of bs.' Goku first went Ultra Instinct, surpassing the highest gods, at conveniently the _exact_ moment he'd need some new bs power to get out of his situation.
@@randominternetman8177 first of all no one was talking about goku I said if sonic went through the events of db to dbs and dbaf he would whoop sonic (frontiers) don’t get goku into this goku is he immune to hax plus he would whoop him to in dbs when goku used ui for the first time it was said the he was shaking the null just by existing and the null is said to be infinite with infinite dimensions and space even being bigger than all the universe’s combined which are said to be low outerversal in size or just infinite and that’s just the bottom of each universe and that’s just mui plus mui or even ui is not limited it is just stuck at the limit the user can use at that time if it was limit goku would be dead goku was easily able to move around and deflect infinite speed attacks in ui just ui me being called “king saiyan” has nothing to do with this you name is literally random you random person and there are multiple videos explaining this plus hyper is not even canon if you want to bring non canon shit into this I will to this versions of goku in base can destroy the sonic verse J.F goku ,xeno goku .cc goku . gag kid goku . Dbk goku. Godfusion goku.
Goku in dbs alone has bigger feats than beating someone who can eat universe and timeline goku has beaten timeless beings where time does not even exist in base plus gokus durability and speed are faster than sonic base to base super sonic has a massive weakness it has a timer which goku does not in mui or pmui or tui even if super sonic was stronger super sonic can scale to multiversal to high multiversal goku can scale to low outerversal to mid outerversal because of his training and just limitless potential and tui of course but even if goku is stronger they would probably become great friends at the end of the fight
@@Lord_AINZ_edits well, saying “goku is immune to hax” just hammers my point home that db is poorly written at times, and me pointing out your identity is me trying to say you’re obviously going to have a bias towards the db forms
wtf does shaking the null have to do with anything? ultra instinct was still pulled out of goku’s ass right when he needed it, and even then we can still see his entire power aura when he summons it, that’s less than the infinite power of the emeralds.
hyper was gonna be brought back for frontiers, but sega didn’t want it in to avoid power creep (unlike _another_ series we’re discussing), and even then it wouldn’t be necessary for sonic to wipe the floor, as he’s still more than fast enough to keep up with ultra instinct
@@Lord_AINZ_edits1)Outversal goku has been debunked stop using it
2)Sonic in super is multiversal due to solaris. Solaris was a 4D being who ate dimensions for lunch(stated by eggman a dude with 300 iq), he also was eating the concept of time and was going to collapse reality but didn’t due to sonic and friends.
And before you say they jumped him, technically not. Solaris exists in the present,past,future, sonic had to fight present solaris, shadow past solaris and future solaris fought against silver
And for hyper sonic scaling. Well. A master/super emerald can turn someone into super sonic. Hyper takes 7 super emeralds. Therefore it’s a 7 times super sonic multipler to base sonic
3)due to dbs rules, you can be immune to a hax if your stronger than the opponent but since this hyper is already stronger than mui,tui goku doesn’t have immunity
4)There is no scaling with mui,tui since they have no multipliers
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@@u.l.t006that's definitely what sonic said in his mind lol