One thing i love about a Jeep especially the JL and JK with an affordable base lift kit this thing can flex sooo well without doing extreme mods like coilovers. Cool Vid as always.
Looks like a good lift kit. I've had my Mopar 2 inch lift Kit for three years; no problems so far. It seems that this kit is just as good as mine. I run lots of the desert trails in Florence, Superior, and Sedona Arizona. Love your channel. You take it easy out there!!!
I have the Mopar 2.5" spacer lift right now with stock Rubicon shocks and 35's on my 2020 but I'm sold. I'll be placing my order for this and going to 37's.
Yeah, I'm binging on WOL vids. Eddie I wish I knew you had Spider Web Shade in your Amazon store. I would have bought mine through you! Thanks again for putting together an informative video. I'm shopping for a lift for our JL and have really become overwhelmed by all that's out there!
@@wayalife Thanks! I'm new to Jeeps and have SO many questions about how to proceed with lifts, etc. Your videos have really helped me out with direction, and I appreciate that you're not just throwing on parts that require me selling a kidney and still taking out a loan to complete.
Great video, looks like a super kit for the DD like my new JLU Sport S. I'm entered and fingers crossed, thanks for the review and thanks to you and Dynatrac for the opportunity! Sidenote, I think you could probably drive a go-cart through those rocks, you make it look so easy!
@@litoornelas6409 I didn't win, unfortunately. I ended up getting my hands on Rubicon take off shocks and springs along with Rubi wheels/tires as well all for about the same cost of the 2" lift. I've been happy with it and will save up for a more robust 2.5 inch kit down the road.
Great job on the filming and editing, much respect! why do people always have to complain about a videos music, it helps make the videos much more entertaining and less monotonous. thanks for the hard work!
Thank you, we really do appreciate it and we're glad that you enjoy our use of music. Our videos are a personal expression of ourselves and if people don't like how we make them, we would encourage them to make their own videos and exactly as they see fit.
@@Michael_ryan91 I did order it last night and can't wait til it shows up. I have a shop with a lift lined up to do a DYI install with a friend. I think it's going to be a great mix of lift and practicality. Thanks for your thoughts.
How is the geometry with the stock track bars? I just installed this lift and notice the vehicle is off center... is it outside of specs?? Do I need new lower control arms or new track bars?? Also, anyone have issues with the bolt from the passenger side front track bar coming loose?? Wondering if my mechanic missed something
When all was said and done, the total amount of lift I saw with this kit was only 1.8". That is well within factory spec and there is no need for track bar correction. Regarding the track bar bolt, it needs to be tightened to 120 ft lbs of torque.
Looks great! How much weight will it take? Will it handles being loaded up full with overland gear + dual batteries winch, fridge, tire carrier, rooftop tent.
Any Jeep with that much gear will see some sagging unless you've got your axle mounted to the frame. If you want coils that can hold up a lot of weight, you're ride is going to feel like crap. As mentioned in this video, the primary focus of this lift was "ride comfort". While it will hold up weight much better than factory coils, you will see some sagging with a ton of gear.
Great review! I am VERY close to purchasing this lift for my wife's '22 Rubicon, especially since she's only running 35's....Most all the other lifts out there look way to high running 35's in my opinion....Anyway, the Dynatrac site says the lifts are specifically for the 3.6 V6, and are not approved and tested for the 2.0L. Any thoughts on this? I talked to a sales guy and he claims his techs say the 2.0L is fine with this kit, but I don't wanna make a mistake??? Thanks!!!
No wheel spacers were used but the aftermarket wheels the 35" tires were installed on did have 4.75" or back spacing. In other words, if you try to use your factory wheels to run the same tires, you will want to run spacers.
Looks like a nice cheap mild wheeling kit. Although maybe I'm getting old... starting to find most monotubes a bit rough, especially once they get warm. Also at 7:27 wow the JL BLD kicks in a hell of a lot quicker than the JKs.
A majority of ride quality comes from your coils. Shocks will just smooth out your ride. If you're feeling like monotubes are a bit rough, it's probably because your coils are too firm.
After doing longer term testing with this lift, we found that we only had about 1.8" of actual lift. That was too little to clear 37's without a LOT of rubbing at a full stuff. I would recommend taller coils or at the very least, coil spacers to help things out as well as taller bump stop extensions. Or, you can always trim your fenders.
Hi wayalife, couple questions I’m not finding concrete info on: 1)I have a mostly stock jlur, will this kit still maintain some rake? (I actually prefer rake contrary to most people’s desires) 2) ties into 1, im not a hardcore overlander, I don’t have a roof rack or RTT. However, say I load up the back with a decent size cooler and some camping gear for a 2 day trip, will the rear sag? I’ve found a lot of great reviews of the kit, but a good amount of people claiming it can’t support much of any weight. 3) and lastly, do you have any experience riding offroad in the mopar kit? Curious to know if it manages head toss and washboard roads as well as people say about the dynatrac.
1. Yes, this kit will still provide some rake. 2. Depending on how much gear you carry, yes, this kit will sag some. It's impossible to not sag unless you run stiffer coils or dual or variable rate ones that compromise ride quality. 3. Yes, I do have experience and can tell you that it and this kit will still toss your head around if you're not running disconnected. If you're looking for a smoother ride, old school hydro shocks will do that better but they will fade with a lot of fast driving on washboards or rough terrain. Monotube shocks like what both of these kits provide will last a lot longer but they will be firmer overall.
@@wayalife What do you think about adding a small spacer (1-1.5") in the rear for this Dynatrac 2.0 lift to help offset sag if loaded in the back. By the looks of it, I like this kit and not sure stiffer springs for the rear would be more or less of a compromise than a spacer in the back. Any suggestions? Thank you!
@@JimmyDevere Yeah, back when we were still running this lift, that's what I ended up doing. It'll work but I still thought that the Rancho kit rode smoother/better. But then, that's just me.
Hi wayalife crew! Very interested in moving forward with this kit like yesterday! Questions, steering stabilizer, control arms, adjustable track bars all not needed? Would it hurt to upgrade anyway? Also would pay (don’t have the tools) to have installed would they know to use the back sway bar links on the front? Why is this?! Lastly running this kit but eventually replacing falcons 3.3 adjustable shocks a problem? Please help I’m confused!! Thanks again Love love love this damn channel! Keep up the good work.
First off, this video was made quite some time ago. Since then, I had found that this lift settles out quite a bit and ultimately, only yielded 1.8" of lift. That is not enough for 37's. Second, you shouldn't need to add in additional steering components.
Thanks for your review of the Dynatrac Lift. I will be in the market for just such a lift within the year. I was kinda leaning toward the Mopar kit but this one sounds good. I’m going to Ouray and Moab in Sept in stock configuration and see how it does. By the way, I kinda copied your rear stinger idea. Hope thats OK...
@@litoornelas6409 Well, I wound up going with Rubicon Express 2 1/2” lift. I also opted for their heavy duty shocks. The Jeep is quite stiff riding but when I load it down with 2 people, luggage for a 2 week trip, some tools, cooler and other necessary Items it rides pretty good. Going to try to get back to Colorado and Utah this Sept to see how much difference there is on the trails with the lift and 37” tires as compared to when it was stock. If I were to change 1 thing it would be to go with a lighter shock like the Fox that comes with the Mopar Lift. There are more choices in lift kits now than when I did mine....
if I'm a city dweller and rarely ever take my jeep crawling, do I need to run 35's? I can still install the dynatrac 2inch lift and use 33's, right? I know 35's just look better
I have a 2 inch rubicon express lift. The ride is stuff and I can feel every little bump on the highway at highway speeds. How would you honestly rate this lift for highway driving? I'm bummed I spent so much money before seeing this lift
Ride quality is 100% subjective and if you're not real happy with what you have now, you might not be too much happier with this kit especially being that it still costs over $1k and will still have Fox monotube shocks. While they are a very nice shock, they will offer a firmer ride than would an old school hydro shock. Honestly, I think you might be happier with something like this ruclips.net/video/0x1wR2m5sKs/видео.html.
Thanks for the reply! So you believe the Rancho suspension would provide a much better ride? If money wasn't as much of an issue and my main focus was getting a lift for highway driving that provided a smooth rude what world you recommend? I had an Acura before my Jeep
@@junaidshahid848 On pavement, I personally feel that you might find the Rancho lift and shocks to offer a more comfortable ride or at least, on the highway. Where it wouldn't do as well is on long, hard and fast bombing across the desert. In those conditions, the Rancho shocks would fade and not be as good. If money weren't an issue, I might recommend custom made King coilovers with springs and valving made for your specific taste but that would take some trial and error to figure out.
Wayalife, does this lift address the Jeep JL lean? If not, what can I do about that? Also, you are running EVO control arms. Would you feel comfortable wheeling it the same if you were still running the factory control arms? Also would longer trac bars been a good additional purchase? Thanks
No. Unlike other lift kits, all the coils are the exact same length and if anything, you have a lean the other way. Also, the kit only yields about 1.8" of actual lift and so no new control arms or track bars are needed being that you're well within spec of stock. The kit we were running before was a 2.5" lift. For 35" tires, this is a good kit but I would recommend something else for 37's.
@@troutriver58 Guess it depends on how you plan on using your Jeep and what kind of budget you have to work with. Me personally, I found that the Rancho Sport kit did the job well for me and with 37's and it cost about half as much.
EVO has a ton of different lifts and none that are less than 2.5". Aside from their boost lift, the only coil setup I've tested has been their 2.5" Enforcer kit with Kings and their coil overs. Neither are exactly a fair comparison.
Depends on what size tire you're wanting to run or hope to run in the future. If you're going to stick with 35's, this is a good kit. If you think you might want to go bigger someday like 37's, I would highly recommend the Rancho kit. This kit will barely give you 2" of lift and that works with 35's but not as good with 37's. The Rancho kit will give you closer to 3" of lift and it's a much better fit not to mention costs less as well.
@@wayalife Got it! Thanks for the answer. Stick with 35's for my JL wich stays in the road 90% of the time. Rancho it is in case i go bigger with tires. 💪🏼👍🏼
Even with Rubicon high clearance fenders, you would still need to remove the fender liners in order to 'help' clear 37's at a full flex. Rugged Ridge makes a set that will help a bit more but what you really need is more lift. Not really a fan of the metal fenders as I've seen them cause body damage when hit.
Hello im in the middle of wanting to purchase 2 inch dynatracs lift my question is i have a jl sport S will it clear with 37s adding more bump stop... or if they have a 2.5 inch lift available?
Honestly, we barely got 37's to work on a Rubicon. There's no way I would recommend this lift to clear them as it's really meant for 35's. They do not have a 2.5" lift available. I might recommend that you look something like a Rancho Sport kit. ruclips.net/video/0x1wR2m5sKs/видео.html
So, the Rancho lift will get you sitting a bit taller than 2.5" and this Dynatrac lift will have you sitting at exactly 2". The Rancho comes with old school 5000 shocks and this kit comes with Fox 2.0 monotubes made specifically for the coils. The Rancho kit is a good budget friendly entry lift and this might be more of a good long term solution especially if you're just running 35" tires.
@@wayalife it would be great if at some point they could improve on windshield cracking and could make the jeeps panels out of hemp as its lighter and stronger then steel.
I suppose you could but you'd be sitting at about 4.5" of lift. At that height, you really NEED to address things like steering geometry, caster and drivelines. Of course, your shocks would be short as well as your sway bar links. There are other things you'd want to address too.
We don't have a whole lot of mud out here but we might be able to get some rock crawling in. As far as big tires go, this lift was made to run 35" on a Sahara.
If you ran flat fenders or tube fenders, you "shouldn't" have any rubbing but a lot of that will depend on what 2.5" lift you get, how tall the bump stop extensions are and how the fenders in question are made.
There won't be anything to rub without any fenders. I have no experience with the Hauk fenders but would imagine they'd give you the room you're looking for to clear 37's. Only bummer thing is that your nice new JL will look like an old JK.
Without having tested it out for myself, it'd be hard for me to say one way or another. Unless there's some feature of it that uniquely different, I personally would would go with what I know and so far, this new Dyantrac JL kit rides and performs awesome. WAY better than most lifts I've tested on a JK, including the one JKS made for it.
The kit includes Front & Rear JSPEC Dual Rate Coil Springs, Front & Rear Gas Charged Shocks, JKS Front Adjustable Track Bar, JKS Front Sway Bar Quicker Disconnects, Front Caster Cam Locks, Front & Rear Bump Stop Extensions, Rear Extended Sway Bar Links, Rear Track Bar Bracket. Thanks for your honest opinion. Just want to make sure we get the right lift kit for are JL
Okay, so already, what I can tell you is that I am no fan of dual rate coils. Sure, they help to make your Jeep "look" level when loaded up but the soft side of the coil typically gets all used up and that leaves you riding on the firm side of the coil - in other words, a harsher ride. Also, dual rate coils tend to offer too much resistance on compression and that typically limits stuff when flexing out. Caster cams are also something I would never recommend as they require you to notch out the mounting holes on your axle mount converting them from squares into rectangles. This is fine if you just drive on pavement but if you wheel your Jeep, the bolts can loosen up and cause slop in your control arms. The only way to fix this if you decide to get adjustable control arms in the future is to weld up the slots. For just 2.5" of lift, adjustable track bars are not needed but it is nice that they include them.
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Depends on your budget. This kit costs twice as much but I would argue that it is a BETTER lift. That being said, if you're working on a budget, the Rancho lift is better buy than a set of coil spacers and shock extensions.
Honestly, amazingly well. Very little dive on braking, very little squat on acceleration and very flat on hard cornering. Watch the close up clip of the JL going over the busted up rail road tracks and see how flat the body is compared to the tires. Very smooth ride.
Is this kit better than the Mopar 2 inch kit? Do the coil s bow out like on the Mopar lift? I see there are no lower front control arms in this kit. Is that a concern? And it's the same kit for the 2 door JL?
In my opinion, yes, the Dynatrac kit is a better kit than the Mopar. The coils do NOT bow out like the Mopar kit and there is no need for new lower arms. This is the same kit you would get for a 2-door - you would just get a bit more height out of it.
The amount of axle shift with just 2" of lift is negligible. You literally can't even see it and an adjustable track bar is completely unnecessary. In fact, I have personally found that factory track bars hold up much better than most aftermarket ones and because of it, I still run a factory one on my JK running 40's.
I don't think the two are really a fair comparison. The Rancho kit we're running now comes with their entry level RS5000X shocks and while it's a great kit, it also costs about half as much as this Dynatrac kit. If anything the Rancho kit is a much better buy than any budget boost out there and it will offer a better ride compared to it. Something like the Mopar kit would be a better kit to compare the Dynatrac kit to and between the two of them, I would have to give it to Dynatrac. The ride their coils and shocks offer is outstanding, at least in my opinion anyway.
We were for a while. You can see the install here: ruclips.net/video/5-h2ALf6y_U/видео.html However, once the coils settled, we only had 1.8" of lift and it was far too little for the 37's. We had a LOT of rubbing. I would not recommend it.
Bring that jeep to me here in Indiana. We have real rough tracks and we have POT HOLES then I'll take it to my wife's home town of Pittsburgh PA. Contact me.
Just installed this on my keep today and took it for a drive around the block and I can honestly say it feels a little smoother than stock did.
Awesome :)
what kind of tires are you running? I'm looking for a lift that's a little smoother than stock..
One thing i love about a Jeep especially the JL and JK with an affordable base lift kit this thing can flex sooo well without doing extreme mods like coilovers.
Cool Vid as always.
This is without question a big plus for Wranglers. Way easier to lift and get flexing without spending tons of cash on complicated mods.
Video edits really stepping up their game
Looks like a good lift kit. I've had my Mopar 2 inch lift Kit for three years; no problems so far. It seems that this kit is just as good as mine. I run lots of the desert trails in Florence, Superior, and Sedona Arizona. Love your channel. You take it easy out there!!!
if you could do it again, mopar or dynatrac?
When I get a jl (if ever lol) I will def buy from your Amazon links. Love your channel best jl content on RUclips. Keep it up!
Thank you, we really do appreciate it and hope you're able to get a JL sooner than later.
I have the Mopar 2.5" spacer lift right now with stock Rubicon shocks and 35's on my 2020 but I'm sold. I'll be placing my order for this and going to 37's.
Great video! I’m very impressed with what they’ve come up with. This will be perfect for the new JLU.
Love the new style of editing! Great video as always you two! And did I see a Third brake light relocation bracket on Jet Li???
As a matter of fact, you did. Glad to hear you're enjoying some of the changes we've been making on our new videos :)
Love the FLEX experiment at the end. Nicely done!
Thanks! Glad you stuck around till the end :)
That was an amazing video, incredible flex from the Dynatrac !
Thank you, we're so glad you enjoyed the video and yes, the flex is amazing for just a 2" lift.
Yeah, I'm binging on WOL vids. Eddie I wish I knew you had Spider Web Shade in your Amazon store. I would have bought mine through you! Thanks again for putting together an informative video. I'm shopping for a lift for our JL and have really become overwhelmed by all that's out there!
It's all good and appreciate you thinking of us. Let me know if there's ever anything I can assist you with.
@@wayalife Thanks! I'm new to Jeeps and have SO many questions about how to proceed with lifts, etc. Your videos have really helped me out with direction, and I appreciate that you're not just throwing on parts that require me selling a kidney and still taking out a loan to complete.
Well, glad to know that I can be of help to you :)
Great video Eddie and Cindy very nice video editing
Thank you, we really do appreciate it :)
Great video, looks like a super kit for the DD like my new JLU Sport S. I'm entered and fingers crossed, thanks for the review and thanks to you and Dynatrac for the opportunity! Sidenote, I think you could probably drive a go-cart through those rocks, you make it look so easy!
LOL!! Thanks. Honestly, the kit really is made to be the perfect 2" lift for a daily driver. Good luck to you on the giveaway.
Did you ever get the dynatrac lift Rich?
@@litoornelas6409 I didn't win, unfortunately. I ended up getting my hands on Rubicon take off shocks and springs along with Rubi wheels/tires as well all for about the same cost of the 2" lift. I've been happy with it and will save up for a more robust 2.5 inch kit down the road.
Hey 'WayofLife' Gang! Great video and review. I think this kit is just my speed. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, we're glad you liked the video and review. This really is a nice kit.
Dynatrac is asuper company, this is yet another great product from them.
Awesome review! A lot more helpful than most RUclips review channels.
Thank you. We're glad to hear you say as much and really do appreciate it :)
Great job on the filming and editing, much respect! why do people always have to complain about a videos music, it helps make the videos much more entertaining and less monotonous. thanks for the hard work!
Thank you, we really do appreciate it and we're glad that you enjoy our use of music. Our videos are a personal expression of ourselves and if people don't like how we make them, we would encourage them to make their own videos and exactly as they see fit.
Wayalife agreed!
nice new editing style. love it
Thank you, we're glad to hear you like what we're doing :)
A really well done video. Looks like a great product!
Thanks Clay :)
Great video Eddie, the world continues to change one day at a time...! Great new product!
Great video!
I’m sold. Ordering after posting this comment.
Just installed mine the ride really is amazing and im a 2door rubi thought for sure it would be stiffer but nope its awsome!
@@Michael_ryan91 I did order it last night and can't wait til it shows up. I have a shop with a lift lined up to do a DYI install with a friend. I think it's going to be a great mix of lift and practicality. Thanks for your thoughts.
Awesome - glad we could help out with this video :)
Well done, good looking JL!
How is the geometry with the stock track bars? I just installed this lift and notice the vehicle is off center... is it outside of specs?? Do I need new lower control arms or new track bars?? Also, anyone have issues with the bolt from the passenger side front track bar coming loose?? Wondering if my mechanic missed something
When all was said and done, the total amount of lift I saw with this kit was only 1.8". That is well within factory spec and there is no need for track bar correction. Regarding the track bar bolt, it needs to be tightened to 120 ft lbs of torque.
Looks great! How much weight will it take? Will it handles being loaded up full with overland gear + dual batteries winch, fridge, tire carrier, rooftop tent.
Any Jeep with that much gear will see some sagging unless you've got your axle mounted to the frame. If you want coils that can hold up a lot of weight, you're ride is going to feel like crap. As mentioned in this video, the primary focus of this lift was "ride comfort". While it will hold up weight much better than factory coils, you will see some sagging with a ton of gear.
Great review! I am VERY close to purchasing this lift for my wife's '22 Rubicon, especially since she's only running 35's....Most all the other lifts out there look way to high running 35's in my opinion....Anyway, the Dynatrac site says the lifts are specifically for the 3.6 V6, and are not approved and tested for the 2.0L. Any thoughts on this? I talked to a sales guy and he claims his techs say the 2.0L is fine with this kit, but I don't wanna make a mistake??? Thanks!!!
The coils are designed for the weight of a 3.6L It'll work fine with the 2.0L.
@@wayalife Thank you!
I would LOVE one of these!
I just entered to win!
With the 37's, did you have to use wheel spacers? Was there any clearance problems? Fender liners or frame?
No wheel spacers were used but the aftermarket wheels the 35" tires were installed on did have 4.75" or back spacing. In other words, if you try to use your factory wheels to run the same tires, you will want to run spacers.
Looks like a nice cheap mild wheeling kit. Although maybe I'm getting old... starting to find most monotubes a bit rough, especially once they get warm. Also at 7:27 wow the JL BLD kicks in a hell of a lot quicker than the JKs.
A majority of ride quality comes from your coils. Shocks will just smooth out your ride. If you're feeling like monotubes are a bit rough, it's probably because your coils are too firm.
I’ve got the same lift (love it) and want to run 37s eventually. What will I have to do to clearance 37s at full stuff?
Thanks
After doing longer term testing with this lift, we found that we only had about 1.8" of actual lift. That was too little to clear 37's without a LOT of rubbing at a full stuff. I would recommend taller coils or at the very least, coil spacers to help things out as well as taller bump stop extensions. Or, you can always trim your fenders.
The magic is in their springs...
Hi wayalife, couple questions I’m not finding concrete info on:
1)I have a mostly stock jlur, will this kit still maintain some rake? (I actually prefer rake contrary to most people’s desires)
2) ties into 1, im not a hardcore overlander, I don’t have a roof rack or RTT. However, say I load up the back with a decent size cooler and some camping gear for a 2 day trip, will the rear sag? I’ve found a lot of great reviews of the kit, but a good amount of people claiming it can’t support much of any weight.
3) and lastly, do you have any experience riding offroad in the mopar kit? Curious to know if it manages head toss and washboard roads as well as people say about the dynatrac.
1. Yes, this kit will still provide some rake.
2. Depending on how much gear you carry, yes, this kit will sag some. It's impossible to not sag unless you run stiffer coils or dual or variable rate ones that compromise ride quality.
3. Yes, I do have experience and can tell you that it and this kit will still toss your head around if you're not running disconnected. If you're looking for a smoother ride, old school hydro shocks will do that better but they will fade with a lot of fast driving on washboards or rough terrain. Monotube shocks like what both of these kits provide will last a lot longer but they will be firmer overall.
@@wayalife What do you think about adding a small spacer (1-1.5") in the rear for this Dynatrac 2.0 lift to help offset sag if loaded in the back. By the looks of it, I like this kit and not sure stiffer springs for the rear would be more or less of a compromise than a spacer in the back. Any suggestions? Thank you!
@@JimmyDevere Yeah, back when we were still running this lift, that's what I ended up doing. It'll work but I still thought that the Rancho kit rode smoother/better. But then, that's just me.
@@wayalife Thanks Eddie!
Hi wayalife crew! Very interested in moving forward with this kit like yesterday! Questions, steering stabilizer, control arms, adjustable track bars all not needed? Would it hurt to upgrade anyway? Also would pay (don’t have the tools) to have installed would they know to use the back sway bar links on the front? Why is this?! Lastly running this kit but eventually replacing falcons 3.3 adjustable shocks a problem? Please help I’m confused!! Thanks again
Love love love this damn channel! Keep up the good work.
Great video, did you add any additional steering components when running 37s ? I’ve heard of front end wandering when running 37s.
Thanks
First off, this video was made quite some time ago. Since then, I had found that this lift settles out quite a bit and ultimately, only yielded 1.8" of lift. That is not enough for 37's. Second, you shouldn't need to add in additional steering components.
Why aren't LCAs needed here? Caster is important too and I would think it would come with the kit? Thoughts?
The kit yields just shy of 2" of lift. This is well with in OE spec. Most 2" kits like the one made by Mopar yields closer to 3" of lift.
Nice. I wonder how they would compare to the new Mojave Gladiator, since it's made for this type of terrain.
Oh, without question, the Mojave Gladiator stock would ride nicer.
Nice review.
Thanks.
Glad you found it useful :)
Thanks for your review of the Dynatrac Lift. I will be in the market for just such a lift within the year. I was kinda leaning toward the Mopar kit but this one sounds good. I’m going to Ouray and Moab in Sept in stock configuration and see how it does. By the way, I kinda copied your rear stinger idea. Hope thats OK...
how did it go? did you go mopar or dynatrac?
@@litoornelas6409 Well, I wound up going with Rubicon Express 2 1/2” lift. I also opted for their heavy duty shocks. The Jeep is quite stiff riding but when I load it down with 2 people, luggage for a 2 week trip, some tools, cooler and other necessary Items it rides pretty good. Going to try to get back to Colorado and Utah this Sept to see how much difference there is on the trails with the lift and 37” tires as compared to when it was stock. If I were to change 1 thing it would be to go with a lighter shock like the Fox that comes with the Mopar Lift. There are more choices in lift kits now than when I did mine....
if I'm a city dweller and rarely ever take my jeep crawling, do I need to run 35's? I can still install the dynatrac 2inch lift and use 33's, right? I know 35's just look better
You don't even need to install this lift to run 33" tires. You can do that stock.
Nice ride
I have a 2 inch rubicon express lift. The ride is stuff and I can feel every little bump on the highway at highway speeds. How would you honestly rate this lift for highway driving? I'm bummed I spent so much money before seeing this lift
Ride quality is 100% subjective and if you're not real happy with what you have now, you might not be too much happier with this kit especially being that it still costs over $1k and will still have Fox monotube shocks. While they are a very nice shock, they will offer a firmer ride than would an old school hydro shock. Honestly, I think you might be happier with something like this ruclips.net/video/0x1wR2m5sKs/видео.html.
Thanks for the reply! So you believe the Rancho suspension would provide a much better ride? If money wasn't as much of an issue and my main focus was getting a lift for highway driving that provided a smooth rude what world you recommend? I had an Acura before my Jeep
@@junaidshahid848 On pavement, I personally feel that you might find the Rancho lift and shocks to offer a more comfortable ride or at least, on the highway. Where it wouldn't do as well is on long, hard and fast bombing across the desert. In those conditions, the Rancho shocks would fade and not be as good. If money weren't an issue, I might recommend custom made King coilovers with springs and valving made for your specific taste but that would take some trial and error to figure out.
is it a true 2” lift for Sahara? or is it 2” for rubicon and 3” for sahara?
It'll yield 1.8" of total lift when the springs settle. So, a bit less than 2"
Wayalife, does this lift address the Jeep JL lean? If not, what can I do about that? Also, you are running EVO control arms. Would you feel comfortable wheeling it the same if you were still running the factory control arms? Also would longer trac bars been a good additional purchase? Thanks
No. Unlike other lift kits, all the coils are the exact same length and if anything, you have a lean the other way. Also, the kit only yields about 1.8" of actual lift and so no new control arms or track bars are needed being that you're well within spec of stock. The kit we were running before was a 2.5" lift. For 35" tires, this is a good kit but I would recommend something else for 37's.
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@@wayalife what then would you recommend for 37’s?
@@troutriver58 Guess it depends on how you plan on using your Jeep and what kind of budget you have to work with. Me personally, I found that the Rancho Sport kit did the job well for me and with 37's and it cost about half as much.
Awesome video and it looks like a good suspension, but how does it compare to the EVO?
EVO has a ton of different lifts and none that are less than 2.5". Aside from their boost lift, the only coil setup I've tested has been their 2.5" Enforcer kit with Kings and their coil overs. Neither are exactly a fair comparison.
Another great video, thanks for sharing. Wich kit, this one or the Rancho one? 🤔
Depends on what size tire you're wanting to run or hope to run in the future. If you're going to stick with 35's, this is a good kit. If you think you might want to go bigger someday like 37's, I would highly recommend the Rancho kit. This kit will barely give you 2" of lift and that works with 35's but not as good with 37's. The Rancho kit will give you closer to 3" of lift and it's a much better fit not to mention costs less as well.
@@wayalife Got it! Thanks for the answer. Stick with 35's for my JL wich stays in the road 90% of the time. Rancho it is in case i go bigger with tires. 💪🏼👍🏼
Do you have a recommendation for high clearance fenders?
Thanks
Even with Rubicon high clearance fenders, you would still need to remove the fender liners in order to 'help' clear 37's at a full flex. Rugged Ridge makes a set that will help a bit more but what you really need is more lift. Not really a fan of the metal fenders as I've seen them cause body damage when hit.
Was that Dynatrac jeep running stock gears with those 35's or had they upgraded them?
Yes, stock gears.
Hello im in the middle of wanting to purchase 2 inch dynatracs lift my question is i have a jl sport S will it clear with 37s adding more bump stop... or if they have a 2.5 inch lift available?
Honestly, we barely got 37's to work on a Rubicon. There's no way I would recommend this lift to clear them as it's really meant for 35's. They do not have a 2.5" lift available. I might recommend that you look something like a Rancho Sport kit. ruclips.net/video/0x1wR2m5sKs/видео.html
@@wayalife ok thank you for reaching back out to me i will stick with dynatrac enduro lift n 35s..thank you so much
Compared to the Rancho 2" lift, how does this one fare? I'm thinking the Rancho is more budget entry'ish.
So, the Rancho lift will get you sitting a bit taller than 2.5" and this Dynatrac lift will have you sitting at exactly 2". The Rancho comes with old school 5000 shocks and this kit comes with Fox 2.0 monotubes made specifically for the coils. The Rancho kit is a good budget friendly entry lift and this might be more of a good long term solution especially if you're just running 35" tires.
@@wayalife Thanks, man! You're an awesome reviewer and educator!
is your windshield cracked?? and how did that happen? cuz I saw another youtuber with cracked JL from windshield? is that fault from the factory?
Yes, it was cracked. Jeeps are known for it being that their windshields are so vertical.
@@wayalife it would be great if at some point they could improve on windshield cracking and could make the jeeps panels out of hemp as its lighter and stronger then steel.
Can you add this kit after installing the EVO MFG 2.5" Jeep Wrangler JL Boost Stage 1
I suppose you could but you'd be sitting at about 4.5" of lift. At that height, you really NEED to address things like steering geometry, caster and drivelines. Of course, your shocks would be short as well as your sway bar links. There are other things you'd want to address too.
have you also tried the bds 2inch system yet or do you think it is bs what they are selling?
I've run BDS products in the past and wasn't too impressed. I doubt I'll be testing out there stuff on our JL but you never know.
2:43 man, the JL door locks are even louder than the JKs!
hi, like your videos a lot, would you do more videos with wrangler JL Saharas on mud and rock crawling with big tires ?
We don't have a whole lot of mud out here but we might be able to get some rock crawling in. As far as big tires go, this lift was made to run 35" on a Sahara.
Great, some of us want to see whats the sahara capable of by putting the right tires with a lift kid
Super nice product. Would be great for overland adventures. BTW, Jeep does red right.
Yes, I do think this would make for good overland adventures.
Will they offer this kit through Amazon or where might one find it when its available?
Dynatrac sells direct, so give them a call and they will get you taken care of!
As mentioned, they are taking orders directly.
Thank you kindly.
So i have a 2018 jlu sport s arriving soon. To run a 37 on a 2.5 inch lift is all i need to clear wit no rub is thin tube fenders?
If you ran flat fenders or tube fenders, you "shouldn't" have any rubbing but a lot of that will depend on what 2.5" lift you get, how tall the bump stop extensions are and how the fenders in question are made.
Wayalife was considering the hauk Offroad ones and the rough Courtney 2.5 lift with shocks and coils plus steering stabilizers
Wayalife or no fenders at first haha
There won't be anything to rub without any fenders. I have no experience with the Hauk fenders but would imagine they'd give you the room you're looking for to clear 37's. Only bummer thing is that your nice new JL will look like an old JK.
Wayalife Gotya. Yeah at first it’ll look like an old jk but we are gonna hopefully develop some good tuning for the turbo 4 banger
It rubs off road on the rocks?
Yes. I should also note that this is an old video and over time, we found the coils settled out to just 1.8" of lift. Way too little for 37's.
Great video what do you think about the JKS manufacturing 2.5" heavy duty lift kit for the JL
Without having tested it out for myself, it'd be hard for me to say one way or another. Unless there's some feature of it that uniquely different, I personally would would go with what I know and so far, this new Dyantrac JL kit rides and performs awesome. WAY better than most lifts I've tested on a JK, including the one JKS made for it.
The kit includes Front & Rear JSPEC Dual Rate Coil Springs, Front & Rear Gas Charged Shocks, JKS Front Adjustable Track Bar, JKS Front Sway Bar Quicker Disconnects, Front Caster Cam Locks, Front & Rear Bump Stop Extensions, Rear Extended Sway Bar Links, Rear Track Bar Bracket. Thanks for your honest opinion. Just want to make sure we get the right lift kit for are JL
Okay, so already, what I can tell you is that I am no fan of dual rate coils. Sure, they help to make your Jeep "look" level when loaded up but the soft side of the coil typically gets all used up and that leaves you riding on the firm side of the coil - in other words, a harsher ride. Also, dual rate coils tend to offer too much resistance on compression and that typically limits stuff when flexing out. Caster cams are also something I would never recommend as they require you to notch out the mounting holes on your axle mount converting them from squares into rectangles. This is fine if you just drive on pavement but if you wheel your Jeep, the bolts can loosen up and cause slop in your control arms. The only way to fix this if you decide to get adjustable control arms in the future is to weld up the slots. For just 2.5" of lift, adjustable track bars are not needed but it is nice that they include them.
Wayalife thank you once again you have helped out a lot. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything. Your channel Rocks
My pleasure and glad to hear you enjoy our content. If you aren't a member already, we'd love for you to become a part of our online community over on www.JLWRANGLER.com :)
By chance do you know the wheel and tire combo on the red Sahara?
The tires are 315 BFG KO2's. The wheels I'll have to get back to you on.
The wheels are Method 310 Con6 Wheels
Big thanks!
As Always Thumbs Up! .... What happened with the Rancho Stuff?
LOL!! We just allowed Dynatrac to use our JL for R&D. We are currently running Rancho.
Is this available for the jk
no
So this lift or the Rancho?
Depends on your budget. This kit costs twice as much but I would argue that it is a BETTER lift. That being said, if you're working on a budget, the Rancho lift is better buy than a set of coil spacers and shock extensions.
Is the windshield cracked?
Yes it is. Pretty common on a Wrangler being that the windshield is so vertical.
What drone do you use?
We have a few but for this video, we were using a DJI Mavic Air.
How well does it handle on the road?
Honestly, amazingly well. Very little dive on braking, very little squat on acceleration and very flat on hard cornering. Watch the close up clip of the JL going over the busted up rail road tracks and see how flat the body is compared to the tires. Very smooth ride.
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Have a great time awesome
Great video to bad they don't make it for the jk as I just got 2018 jk
Actually, they may just come out with one
Is this kit better than the Mopar 2 inch kit? Do the coil s bow out like on the Mopar lift? I see there are no lower front control arms in this kit. Is that a concern? And it's the same kit for the 2 door JL?
In my opinion, yes, the Dynatrac kit is a better kit than the Mopar. The coils do NOT bow out like the Mopar kit and there is no need for new lower arms. This is the same kit you would get for a 2-door - you would just get a bit more height out of it.
Wayalife would you recommend adjustable track bars? How far will the axles be outta whack?
The amount of axle shift with just 2" of lift is negligible. You literally can't even see it and an adjustable track bar is completely unnecessary. In fact, I have personally found that factory track bars hold up much better than most aftermarket ones and because of it, I still run a factory one on my JK running 40's.
Wayalife will you be posting the install vid of this kit on your Jeep?
Yes. We're currently running a different lift kit right now but we do intend to make an install video of this kit once we get our hands on one.
great video Ed
Thanks, glad you liked it :)
Most people slow down when crossing railroad tracks....and on off road dirt trails
That's because they're suspension would beat them up if they went too fast. This lift kit does a great job of smoothing out the bumps :)
New market for Dynatrac...any talk of an entry level kit for the JK???????????????
As a matter of fact, there is talk about it. :)
Wayalife That's great news. Thanks for the reply. And maybe one day I'll see you all on the trail.
by the way the sahara doesn´t come with sway bar desconector
Nope, they don't but you can manually disconnect them by unbolting them from the axle.
Nice, how do you rate it compared to the latest rancho one you tested recently?
I don't think the two are really a fair comparison. The Rancho kit we're running now comes with their entry level RS5000X shocks and while it's a great kit, it also costs about half as much as this Dynatrac kit. If anything the Rancho kit is a much better buy than any budget boost out there and it will offer a better ride compared to it. Something like the Mopar kit would be a better kit to compare the Dynatrac kit to and between the two of them, I would have to give it to Dynatrac. The ride their coils and shocks offer is outstanding, at least in my opinion anyway.
Good point!
Still waiting for the Big Bear trip, nice video
Anyone running 37's with this kit?
We were for a while. You can see the install here: ruclips.net/video/5-h2ALf6y_U/видео.html
However, once the coils settled, we only had 1.8" of lift and it was far too little for the 37's. We had a LOT of rubbing. I would not recommend it.
Bring that jeep to me here in Indiana. We have real rough tracks and we have POT HOLES then I'll take it to my wife's home town of Pittsburgh PA. Contact me.
Curses! Wrangler windshiled crack!