Different Types of Djent
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2020
- Here is an original song inspired by a lot of bands/artists in between 2015-2018. It's more of a progressive modern metal song with a bunch of djenty elements in it. These are pretty obvious to guess also I've written them.
Tell me what you think ! Comment down below and don't forget to subscribe if you want to hear more. I may be slow on sharing content but I try my best :).
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I can't believe we actually reached 70k views and I'm very amazed of how the track was welcomed by everyone. Be sure to check my most recents videos as there are cool tracks in the way as well.
Although I'm sure many of you want to hear more THALL stuff, WELL, be sure that's the next step of the channel, I will upload more of THALLiness in the next videos ! Don't forget to like and subscribe AND most important activate the bell to know when I upload ! I'd be glad to bring this channel to the next level ! See you soon and thank you everyone for your awesome comments !
"I, the downpicker" broke me
lol why is that
@@Sutefusama Because it is a bit of an inside joke referring to Monuments "I, The Creator" or "I, The Destroyer" tracks. :D
@@EvilDragon666 mans explaining his own joke to him
@@tfwnoyandere I, The Explainer
I loved your thall part because you used everything I prefer in this genre without using the things I hate. Thally djenty phrygian riffs with bends and some high dissonances, rythmed by huge chugs. Just perfect.
Pourquoi je parle anglais en fait ? Vraiment bien joué mon gars !
@@Ishyraya ahahaha j'allais répondre en anglais avant d'avoir vu la réponse. Ptain ton commentaire me fait vraiment plaisir merci !
Pour l'anecdote je travaille depuis un bon moment sur un projet complètement thall dans ce style là :D (j'ai déjà deux morceaux complets mais ça prend vraiment du temps, la page blanche tout ça tout ça)
Hésite pas à t'abonner si c'est pas déjà fait pour quand ça sortira ;)
@@Sutefusama Je suis abonné t'en fais pas ! J'attends ça avec impatience !
Aurais-tu les tabs des deux dernières parties de cette vidéo (Vildjharta et HLB) ?
@@Ishyraya Bien sûr, je les ai même en entière ! Hésite pas à m'envoyer un message à mon adresse mail stephane.metgrp@hotmail.fr et je te l'envoie :)
What are the things you hate? I can’t really think of many thall qualities other than what you named.
Whole song is excellent but that Vildhjarta section was fucking flawless. Awesome work!
Thanks a lot !
My two favorite bands in this genre are Vildhjarta and Meshuggah.
Which is funny since they both influenced each other’s sound. So there’s a crossover between them.
I know right ? One guy I'm following pretty much is Buster Odeholm, composer of Humanity's Last Breath. I love everything he does from HLB to his work with Vildhjarta as a drummer, and as a producer.
I can't help myself but add bit of djenty thall elements to my modern metal tracks.
@@Sutefusama neat
@@Sutefusama buster is one of the most talented mfs ive ever witnessed
@@Sutefusama Buster is an absolute legend, he is really taking heavy music to completely uncharted territory.
source on Vildhjarta influence on Meshuggah
The vildhjarta replication was sick. Good stuff
Thanks ! It was my favorite part to write !
@@Sutefusama just missed the scratches, but great song
I love how you know about shades of black. Very underrated guitar player. Glad to have the opportunity to speak to him at times.
Would love to hear that thall riff fully developed into a song
Never thought about it as I consider this one already to be a full song on its own lol. Though I have full thall album project on the road. It may take time but I'll upload some glimpse of it next time !
David Hasselcore ftw, great playing/writing btw!
The monuments brings me back to the 2000s
love that you added shades of black i loved that bit its not phygian its matts scale honestly he doesnt get enough recognition or credit awesome video dude
love that ltd, great riffing, i like some of those bands.!!good work, keep this up man🤘🖤
Thanks a lot for your comment !
The thall section actually sounded more like Kadinja
Loved the guitar playing and the DBZ shirt
Fucking awesome. Love the tone, and composition. Really captivating. Sounds amazing.
Thank you that means a lot, glad you liked it !
CAPTIVATING?!...PERHAPS DURING AN ASPIRIN COMMERCIAL...LOL
I loved "I, the Downpicker" and the Periphery riff with the funny little chords, but holy shit, you NAILED the Shokran riff down to the last detail
Thanks ! I'm glad you liked it, I was very proud of the Shokran part !
Great stuff man!
That means a lot thank you and thank you for your sub :D, I've got thallthing upcoming hopefully soon enough !
Nice video! I played on my friends 6 string version of that guitar and I loved it straight away. Such a playable guitar
I'm soo glad, this popped up on my recommended feed. You sir, are extremely talented and have a new Sub, nicely done. 🙏🤘
Really happy that this song starts to come up in recommandations, and very happy to find out so many people like it !
Thanks for your sub, I'm working my ass off to offer you new stuff I have in the back of my bag for some time now
this is actually extremely helpful cause know i can find more songs to play in the style
Ahaha glad it helped in any way !
You NEED to release this as a song. It's awesome!
I love it great job!
A lot of cool bands
*Solid 10/10 for the presentation.*
Awesome, man.
This is really good 👍🏻
Righteous I love how you added Shades of Black, M. Zuleger is a good friend of mine. He’s also my go to guy at Sweetwater. New Sub!!🤘🔥
Thanks a lot ! I've followed him since his album "The Gates" which is still my favorite today. Love his work !
@@Sutefusama right on, he’s been doing live streams of his music on Twitch Wednesday nights.
My man, this is perfection, I study to this and studying in now easy xd
That 3rd one gave me that node Northlane feeling fr 🔥🤘
Très stylé !
Great job
Shades of Black is what sounded like Periphery to me
J'ai vu le sac carrefour donc je pense pouvoir parler en français xD. Je trouve que c'est une composition intelligente ou on reconnait vraiment les styles des artistes et le tout s'enchaine super bien ! Bravo !
Je être désolé je connais francais un peu.
Non bien vu le détail aha, merci beaucoup ça fait super plaisir !
Incroyable travail mec !
Merci beaucoup !
very nice 👍
So good
Nice playing
Awesome!
So sick!
@Sutefu Do you have an Instagram?
amazing
new sub, great job!
Thanks that means a lot ! I moved out recently and I'm kinda ready to bring back some music on (hopefully soon enough !)
Loved the thall
That was some badass thall
great licks and nice mixing
Thanks ! My mixing has evolved since then and it could be even better now, but that means a lot to me, glad you enjoyed :)
@@Sutefusama yes thank you for sharing
Awesome :))
This was amazing! I am new to the whole genre-terminologies and low tuned guitars, so I don't understand the difference between Thall and Djent yet, but this is such an awesome vibe, it feels like taking a bath in music
Thanks for your awesome comment !
Thall somehow is derived from djent which already is derived from metalcore breakdowns (I believe so) and has become its own genre.
While thall has some djenty elements in it in most of bands songs, djent relies on syncoped riffs, palm muted chugs, 0's like they say.
Real thall is pretty much experimental progressive (yet another subgenre aha), but vaguely in the metal community it became that genre with riffs that mix very high and mostly dissonant notes with real heavy chugs (and sometimes coped chugs, like in djent as said before.)
It's always complicated to explain something that isn't clear even in the whole community but hopefully it helps you understand
@@Sutefusama You're welcome! Thank you for the explanation, it did help and you also gave me some terms to look up which is helpful within and of itself! I will listen into it more with your explanation in mind :)
Pretty cool sound!!!
Hey thank you man ! Glad some people still can see this with my actual productivity which is close to 0
@@Sutefusama I looked for boss gt100 video, and find yours.
There is a lot of love to the thall part in the comments and I understand why, damn dude that section is so badass
When I listen to it again it kinda feels like I wrote the entire song to be a build up of that Thall part lmao.
It was my favourite part to write, thank you a lot for your comment !
THALL MENTIONED ‼️🗣🗣🗣
I’m playing that exact guitar rn
Love it. I have this guitar too, it's a chug machine, isn't it?
Thanks ! I'm very bad and ignorant when it comes to evertune but it's definitely a very good guitar !
good job here
Thanks !
Great video 0000
Thank you a l0t lmao, gotta love them 0s
Ahhh good to see periphery in here. Most underrated prog metal out there.
Periphery ? Underrated ?
@@worthless_punk Depends on what you consider a "big band" in the metal/prog scene but compared to some big name bands I'd consider them pretty small compared to the quality of music they produce.
@@judahwilliamson8967 periphery may not be as 'big' as, or example, Metallica, but they sure as hell aren't underrated. I would even dare to say they actually do belong to the biggest ones in the prog genre.
Shokran sounded a lot like kadinja as well. Pretty cool!
Super musique ^^ !
Merci beaucoup :D
Really well made actually. Even though thall is phrygian and all, I feel like having more emotion than anything else in it with ambience and clean tones, eerieness and just long bends, pauses, etc etc is infinitely better.
I know what you mean. I've got pieces of instrumental thall tracks that are in minor scales that do this, but I'm not yet ready to upload them.
@@Sutefusama At one point, I'd love to do somewhat of a video duet with someone with thall aspects in minor scales and major scales with emotion. Just gotta wait for my seven string to be sent over from my parent's house. Haha.
Trois bien!
Très genial. Ces sont mes meilleurs choses pour écouter dans metal. Je vais souvenir ces riffs pour mes propre projets! Bien fait!
Damn Adam Ragusea can djent! ❤
"I, the downpicker"
I am 🤡
He went Shokran. Dude!!! Yessssss!!!
Ahaha yeaaaah ! Back in the day when I wrote the song I used to listen to Supreme Truth and Exodus albums everytime I was going at work
T'as progressé de ouf cousin...
Merci Jéjé t'as vu ça ! :)
@@Sutefusama on voit que ça...
this was nicee....you should ve also included animals as leaders in theeree....
Where does one find david hasselcore bands? Asking for a friend 👀
Sick vid btw!
Hi) What guitar rig do you use when playing posthardcore/metalcore live?
beautiful epic tonality...whats your pedal chain setup like???
Hey thank you ! Actually I remember at that time I was using mostly TH3 from overloud then I used the Nolly plugin from Neural DSP thanks to the two weeks trial.
Everything that isn't the main riffs is tones from TH3 Overloud !
The first one sounds like every 2017 djenty bands lol
Who could not like Djent after seeing this video?
I’m a life long lover of metal music, have likes Meshuggah for many years, but just can’t get into Djent or Djent adjacent music. I can’t believe how old I feel not being able to connect to new metal music 😂
Sometimes music taste evolves through life. I remember I couldn't stand whole length songs with only growl and now I just love that so much I even do it myself.
But don't force yourself if you don't like, well you don't like it ! Happy to have you trying to listen to my music though I guess lol :)
Honestly, I feel kinda like that too, most of the times I hear djent, I just think "reject Monuments, return to Nothing", somehow it just doesn't work for me. The most that I'm in touch with modern djent is with Blankfield, the guy does melodic metalcore at breakneck speeds with a touch of EDM and djent, check out his Touhou album "At The Termination Of The Phantasm" or his original OST on Danmaku Unlimited
Same dude same. And I'm only 28
i do like his t-shirt alot tho
Vildhjarta was on point!
Thanks man !
Shades of Black yessssss
yeeeesss ! Although I think I could have done better than that
🔥🔥🔥🔥👍👍👍👍 BN4 en force
THALL part was too fucking good.
Salut, comment est-ce que tu définirais le djent ? J'adore le metalcore et la deathcore, mais j'aimerais être capable de précisément saisir quand les morceaux que j'écoute ressemblent à du djent ou non ^^
Super vidéo en tout cas ! :D
Salut et merci de ton commentaire, content que ça t'ai plu ! (Hésite pas à t'abonner je suis sur des gros projets en ce moment, en étant petit youtubeur ça m'aide beaucoup :3, ouais je mendie aha)
En vérité, avant toute chose le djent n'est pas un vrai "genre" de musique. C'est un dérivé du metalcore avec une technique de jeu à la guitare particulièrement basée sur les dead notes et les palm mutes. (Désolé si tu n'es pas guitariste aha hésite pas à google.)
Le metalcore, dans le stéréotype, c'est surtout des notes à vide, juste palm mutées qui créent une rythmique.
Donc quand tu écoutes du metalcore il est fort probable que tu écoutes du "djent". C'est surtout vrai pour Periphery, bien que leur genre est difficilement qualifiable d'une musique à une autre parfois. Alors qu'à l'inverse, les premiers albums de Asking Alexandria par exemple, c'est du metalcore pur sans aucune forme de djent.
Le deathcore c'est encore autre chose (même si encore une fois le djent s'immisce un peu n'importe où vu que c'est pas vraiment un genre)
Pour être dans le stéréotype, c'est surtout des palm mute à la metalcore avec des notes dissonantes, des tremolo, des riffs plus énervés que le metalcore en somme, et je remarque que souvent ça se joue dans la gamme harmonique mineure.
Voilà désolé de la réponse un peu longue mais j'espère que ça t'aura aidé :)
@@Sutefusama La réponse un peu longue me convient très bien, cependant comme tu t'en doutais je ne suis pas guitariste donc je ne l'ai pas vraiment comprise hahaha
Mais de même, comme tu le suggérais, je vais me renseigner sur Google pour comprendre ce que tu veux dire ;)
Merci à toi !
Après m'être renseigné, je pense vraiment que si j'ai du mal à saisir le concept c'est justement car je n'ai strictement aucune notion en guitare, donc que je ne peux pas imaginer les différences entre différentes techniques et comment ça va sonner selon celles qu'on utilise ^^
Cela dit, par simple curiosité : peut-on qualifier de djent les riffs classique du heavy metal ? Ou cela n'a rien à voir ?
@@alexkhelman9343 Si je me sers de cette vidéo je peux te donner un exemple. L'intro est plus proche d'un riff de metalcore classique, de 0:11 à 0:27 ce ne sont que des cordes à vide "palm-mutées". Alors que de 3:31 à 3:50 j'alterne entre des notes ouvertes et des notes étouffées (dead notes) et ça c'est typiquement "Djent".
Du coup pour répondre à ta question ça soulève un autre débat : l'appellation du genre d'une musique. Est-ce qu'un morceau est considéré comme "jazz" si y a un passage très marqué dans la musique alors que tout le reste c'est du heavy metal ? Je pense pas qu'on ait encore trouvé de nom pour tout (et que ce soit utile honnêtement lol) du coup j'appellerais ça... Du heavy metal avec des influences djent aha
@@Sutefusama Okay, je comprends mieux, merci beaucoup pour tes réponses !
I hear vildhjarta and put my guitar away. I give up. I am not able nor do i have faith in myself to get that good. but I can appreciate it from afar and advocate for its lessons it teaches.
Keep faith ! I cannot even follow my own advice sometimes but practice makes better for sure ! :)
i have the same set of pickups in my schecter and im still not sure whether i absolutely love them or not...
how do you like yours? i feel like they need a bit less gain than my previous ones...
Emg 81-85. I love them for lead tones and thicc riffages, but I agree they sound too "much" for djent/modern metal. I'd rather go for fishman fluence or some of Seymour Duncan ones but I can't get my ears on which I like best
@@Sutefusama i think it depends on whether you Sant active or passive tho.
Imo fishman makes the best actives in the game by a huge margin
I think my next set of passives will be some bare knuckles tho, maxbe even p90s? as i really like that real crispy and gnarly Tone especially when playing stupid low (drop f or below)
Some generic parts are not generic at all.
Djeneric
Nice ltd
that's not bad mix tho, also 3:10 gave me Northlane vibes.
What periphery and monuments song is that?
The song from Monuments that inspired me was "I, creator" from the Amanuensis album. That's more about the intro. For the riff when I actually wrote Monuments, it's more about the downstrokes of John Browne (which I'm definitely not able to do at all lol)
As for Periphery, it's the riff after chorus from "Have a Blast" (from the album "this time it's personal")
Look up Kryn for some unique djent. Start with "And there the scars remain"
Just checked out and it's great I love it. I feel like there is a vibe of 2000's metal sometimes and the vocals are not what we're used to hear on djent songs for sure. The mix is pretty original, but I liked it nonetheless.
Thank you for the discovery !
thall
Monuments for me is the best version of DJENT \m/
I kinda agree with you ! I really love John Browne playstyle
Agreed, although the singers have always had some bits i don't like. But John Browne is my favorite riffer.
Tuning?
G# D# G# C# F# A# D#
revival of post prod tho 😂👍
Drop??
oh god djent subgenres???
lmao ye, thall djent, melodic djent, downpick djent, futuristic alpha dancing beat djent
The opening example sounds a lot like invent animate
The truth is I took inspiration from "I, Creator" from Monument's "Amanuensis" Album. I don't know why I didn't write it with the captions instead of generic chugging intro
@@Sutefusama I love that album
Different types of METALCORE , PLEASE?
Actually you know what I think I WANT to do that ! Thanks for the idea !
whats the tuning?
Drop G# C# G# F# A# D#
She had a beautiful musician who was spoiled by the typ of vocal
Wat ?
@@Sutefusama I'm talking about the singer
@@jaberjalloul2315 what singer ? There's no context and also no singer in this actual track
@@Sutefusama Do not talk about the music you played, but rather about the djent bands and the style of singing they adopt that alienates from this music
@@jaberjalloul2315 Oooooh I see what you mean. Ye I believe that depends on the band. Some djent bands come from the melalcore scene and I think that's where people will either love or hate the singing
No way you missed meshuggah.
Bro the noise gate please 🙏
what do you mean ?
@@Sutefusama te lo diré en español hermano me da pereza traducir,
En el Djent el pedal del noise gate es necesario para cortar mucho el ruido de tapar la cuerda hace que suene mas limpio y mucho mas Djent
@@Sutefusama si puedes has cover de: luxata - vitalism porfavor te lo agradecería
What isn't generic?
True, at some point in history everything becomes somewhat generic. (Though it shouldn't stop anyone from writing the music they want)
Dunno which one is worse
Definitely yours
not enough open chords for monuments xd
Somehow true, the double drop is also lacking but I needed an intro so I took inspiration from "I, Creator" and the downstrokes technique of John Browne (which I'm definitely unable to do lol)
Thou darest Djenteth on a 6 string puny guitar-eth?
Well it's actually a 7 string lol