We definitely would have gotten those characters if this game had been better received. But because it wasn't, there will never be a sequel with an expanded roster. I would have loved to personally have seen Ike, as he has my favorite FE story
Crazy thing is there is a development build of them in game along with the boss characters being playable. The plan was for a season pass 2 and along with a chapter would come the free update to add the boss characters. Unfortunately the game didn't do good enough in terms of sales and they canceled it. I can't find the video anymore but it was extremely early but it did show Roy and Ike. Ugh my heart ) : . Ps there was also to be a challenge mode added like hyrule warriors but expanded on. Would have made some great content end game when you have all characters max leveled and weapons/skills done. You can see this also when it comes to hyrule warriors age of calamity and fire emblem warriors three houses how both games are scaled down compared to both. Trying to go for a more half and half to audience's.
About 15 years ago I had a neighbor that had a PS2 Dynasty Warriors game and I really enjoyed being player 2. Im happy to discover the switch has english dub musou games. I'm currently enjoying FEW and recently picked up a last copy of Hyrule Warriors in stores. Great video!
For me, I had a feeling Hyrule Warriors would come to Switch, so I was holding out on buying one. I still bought FEW on Switch when it came out just so I would have it. I bought it along with the 3DS version and found it unplayable. So FEW was also the reason I got a Switch. lol
Also, I do concur about the anime. I've been pushing for Fire Emblem to make a dedicated anime series amd one done like Naruto and DragonBall where they start from the very beginning (Shadow Dragon to Three Houses) and gradually pairing canonical couples and adding their children to the adventure and watch them grow like we show with Goku/Gohan and Minato/Naruto/Boruto all while keeping on with the story.
Maybe it's because I'm not a FE fan, but I have such conflicting feelings about this game. Either way, it's the one that got me well and truly into Musou games so that's good.
@@GarbenTheBerserker And rightly so, since it did ignore the existence of most of the franchise. But unlike Zelda fans, FE fans actually bought it. For the sake if simplicity, let's assume every single person who bought both games is a franchise fan. Less than 14% of all Zelda fans (3 million of over 21 million in 2020) bought Age of Calamity, and much less for Hyrule Warriors. Roughly half of FE fans (1 million of roughly 2 million in 2017) bought FE Warriors. The numbers for Persona 5 Strikers, btw, convert to about 43% (1.3 million of 3 million). The difference in attitude is simple. Koei respected Zelda, while Zelda fans mostly snubbed their nose at the musou genre. FE fans actually wanted a Warriors game, but also wanted FE to be treated with the same level of respect (that it most certainly didn't receive).
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In the Orochi games or Spirit of Sanada I always paused the stages from time to time to read all the missed dialogue in the log... Tbh thats ok for me in Samurai Warriors games where it makes sense and adds to the flair that they speak Japanese, but with these Nintendo franchises it would have been bad.
How iconic considering I JUST got through writing a blog in Fire Emblem Amino specifically why I would want a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 lol. However it is a massive blog so I will only super cut the certain things but before that can I just say that I was really happy that this game had an English dub? I was literally crying when I found out that nearly all the voice actors from each respective game pretty much came back with the exception of certain characters but for the most part, everyone did a fine job and with this, Persona 5 Strikers and Age of Calamity, we get English dubs again at least for a while. Not to mention even I enjoyed the use of the weapon triangle system implemented from the games in a Warrior's fashion because it makes sense seeing that is how fire emblem rolls and the best thing about this game is literally the support conversations. Seriously there's plenty of supports in this game that make me go that's adorable that's cute I like that conversation that character actually pointed out that other characters massive flaw and finally Lyn slapping Takumi.........life is good. Sadly there is the shortcomings of the game which ironically I mention those in my blog as well especially when it came to the clones. They could have easily made everyone unique even with the same weapon especially since apparently in samurai Warriors 5 they are gonna make the characters have different move sets despite having the same weapon so why didn't they do this for fire emblem Warriors is beyond me. Then there's the fact that the story is just not that good and the 2 original characters are literally the exact same character except with a gender swap so I mentioned that maybe they can do one story where the characters do get sent there but they have to fight a common enemy or what you say: Have the characters already be in that particular world and develop them naturally through that scenario and then another story mode that I just thought up have a created character that you make interact with the characters build supports with them and this is someone that also suggested this do what 3 houses did and have your character marry them and get a CG ending. Speaking of 3 houses they could have easily had Byleth/Beleth playable especially since KT did develop Three Houses and if not, then in a sequel, MAKE THEM ALONG WITH THE HOUSE LEADERS BE PLAYABLE!!!! If Lianshi could be reincarnated as a plant dude in Age of Calamity then Wang Yuanji should be reincarnated as Edelgard in a Warriors game and yeah History Mode is a massive chore and I really don't like playing through it. This was a very well done review and while Fire emblem Warriors definitely has it's issues, at least it got you into the series and I did hear from some who really like this game so...... I said it before and I'll say it again KT make a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 and for the love of God, GIVE ROBIN TAKAKAGE'S MOVESET!!!!!! Clears throat again soild review Chris!
I also hope they make a sequel, I was even making a fanfic series on my thoughts for the plot; I haven't worked on it since the pandemic but I still have the plot points I wanted memorized. If you want to read it my name on Amino is Mattobito and I have a Wiki where I was putting the chapters for ease of access. I think cloning works for this series, the only problem is the character count doesn't necessitate it and the choices on who and how the clones happen. The only group I hated were the Archers as they were using a move set based on Takumi's special weapon and all four archers were the same class and moveset. One could have been mounted or used bombs instead of wind. 2 clones should be the max for that game with 3 being a bit much, but 4 was excessive especially with no alternative to accompany the weapon type. Axes had three classes (grounded, mounted, and flight) in the base game, while Spears were all flight and Archers all grounded; only the Spear type got some diversity. Otherwise, FE Warriors was one of my favorite titles and I enjoyed most of what they used. I'm hoping the next title includes Tellius and Valentia with some more Shadow Dragon officers like FE 1 Hardin.
@@mattobitohall Ya hopefully when we do get a sequel which we should considering that again age of calamity pirate Warriors 4 and persona 5 strikers have proven that they CAN make an interesting roster, it should be a no brainer. Plus there's a whole lot of characters from a lot of the games in the series that they could use and if they still want to use a small number of games with a specific number of characters then it has to be the ones that work like what they did with dragon quest heroes or something like that. I'll be sure to check out your little cliff notes on what you were planning on writing!
@@MrDarksol Their not really cliff-notes but full chapters. I intended to write a full story and try to include how the stages would work in each chapter. It might be a longer read. I agree they could make a good roster if they focus a bit more on the armies and relationships from each game, Fates' problem was that everyone was from the royal family of both groups which forced them to be bigger than the other groups in my opinion. I personally want them to focus on adding characters related by groups; like Celica getting Valbar, Bowe, Saber, or Leon while Alm is included with Clyde, Clair, Kliff, or Lucas.
@@mattobitohall I'm pretty much OK with longer reads as long as what I'm reading is interesting and not super bloated lol. I came across plenty of fan fictions that end up being super bloated because of a lot of unnecessary information and things like that.
FE Warriors gets a bad rap because of the clones and the coverage and it being kinda grindy, but I feel like it's actually pretty decent. DW3 was my first game in the series, but I've been super into them lately.
I kinda disagree with the whole clones thing. I know that a lot of people had issues with clone characters, but I think it was more with the lack of characters. Now I know that they said that they were going to focus on Fates, Awakening, and the OG game. Along with Lyn and Celica as a bonus, but I think a lot of people were hoping for more characters, like the Black Knight being the Lu Bu of the FE: Warriors game.
The grindy thing really only applies to the base game (and it's nowhere near as bad as Hyrule Warriors). If you own the dlc, you have enough stages to NEVER need to replay stages outside of the occassional 2nd Anna painting.
I'm surprised you didn't mention movesets being locked behind Masters Seals at all during this review. Considering one of the cons you mentioned during your Pirate Warriors 4 review was moveset unlocking islands being on the character specific maps instead of the shared map, I'd have thought this even more restrictive moveset limitation would have been a con for sure. It's a real shame, speaking personally. That one decision on the part of the designers has pretty much killed my desire to continue playing Fire Emblem Warriors, which sucks because I like just about everything else about it, even as someone completely unfamiliar with Fire Emblem. I can't see a reason to play it over Musou games with far easier to unlock movesets like Samurai Warriors 4, or the current GOAT Fate Extella LINK which basically just gives your characters their entire movesets from the get-go and makes all other forms of progression shared across the cast.
I like how the cloned moveset issue is mitigated to some extent by the stats system. Among the archers, Niles is a great mage-killer with his high Resistance, Sakura makes a strong magic-bow user with her Magic, Takumi is strong and deals massive critical hits, but he's quite fragile in return, and Anna's Luck is seriously abusable with Supports and Skills to let her simply ignore most of the enemies' defenses. Darios/Validar/Iago/Gharnef were possibly planned as being playable, but they ran into some issue with having 32 characters already. Perhaps some quirk of the coding wouldn't let them go above that, since it's a power of two... that would also explain the lack of Three Houses content. The story is simply an excuse, I do agree. Nothing like Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity, where they did something more unique. I really do hope they're at least planning a sequel, allowing for different games to be represented, like Roy meeting Ike, or for an Age of Calamity-like entirely new telling of Three Houses, where you can have everyone on your team (say... pairing Hubert and Dedue in battle) and change the story. Like you said, they have the game assets and knowledge, so it absolutely can be done. 8/10 is a fair score. It's still one of my favorite games ever, but I'm allowed to love a flawed masterpiece.
I know this is late but you actually can't change to performance mode when in handheld. That's only an option you get when docked. When undocked, you're forced to play 720p at 30 Frames. Also back in 2017, the newest Fire Emblem game at the time was Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Velentia and both that game and Warriors were released in the same year. I know you mentioned it was a missed opportunity to not add Three Houses as some form of DLC but at the time Three Houses didn't even exist outside of just a teaser that said there was a New Fire Emblem game in development for Switch. Three Houses was announced at E3 Summer 2018 and the Warriors DLC wrapped up sometime in March or April of 2018. Seeing as they pretty much finished the game as a whole, I doubt there was any intention of going back to add extra DLC unless we got an expanded version. But hey, we ended up getting Three Hopes in 2022 so that's cool.
Yeah, I just thought adding Byleth would have been like an extra bonus DLC to keep this game alive a little longer in the market while being essentially an advertisement for the next game. Kinda like what they did with Zhou Cang in Warriors All-Stars.
@@ChrisGildart Lol I was hoping for that myself, with perhaps a Season Pass 2 or an expanded/definitive version similar to Hyrule Warriors, but sadly it wasn't meant to be. I'm hopeful for a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 that has more characters from the series but Three Hopes fills the gap until the next one comes out.
5:15 Instead pronouncing as "kae-da" like before Warriors got released, according to her Support Conversations between some characters, Caeda pronunciation in English was actually "ˈsidə/see-da" like Japanese counterpart which is also "Sheeda / シーダ". She was one of my favorite characters to play as in Shadow Dragon, New Mystery of the Emblem, Heroes, and of course Warriors. 14:38 Still continues to this day with completely different Three Hopes which is just entirely Three Houses without returning characters not even Roy & Ike would expect made into it.
The game's movesets are better than HW but it has clones, quality over quantity. Thing is, most people don't care about that, they'll take unique movesets even if it means some are unoptimal; what they want is their characters represented in an original way, because half of the fun is finally getting to use your favourite character. Unique movesets will always be our choice; it's the entire point when making a game based of an existing franchise. This game just didn't do as well as HW so it didn't get all the updates and care that game got. It's still a lot of fun and worth playing, even if it's not the best musou.
I recently got this for the 2ds and i honestly think this might my second favorite warriors spin off. However I wished we got more original playable characters besides Rowan and Lana.
This was pretty great, and I think that long term support of this game could've made a ton of money and been a real treat for fire emblem fans with all the rich history the series contains.
@@ChrisGildart I think it could work, especially since 3 Houses has had such critical and financial success. I've been a Warriors fan since playing couch co-op with my sister on DW3. So all these new options are welcome in my book.
I mean, as a massive and I mean MASSIVE FE fan I can kinda see your point about the storyline BUT - Here's the thing about that. They're not from different universes. They're just from different eras of that same universe and each era is a few hundred to a thousand years apart.
Finally got to watching this, luckily this review was around about what I expected it to go with the clones thing and the other fun stuff and some things that are mixed but understandable. The only real thing that I am at a disagreement on is Byleth DLC as while that can be really good, I don't see a place for it in this game at all considering when the games came out and whatnot. Also the main reason why I say this is because of they ever made a Fire Emblem Warriors 2, that would be a great place to add him and the gang in and I would kill if that ever happened so I use that as a hope that they may make a sequel of sorts eventually. Side note as well that one of the extra characters is Celica who is kinda based on Fire Emblem Echoes that released about 5 months before this game came out. Also as someone who has played some FE games, I believe it is pronounced (Shee-da) and not how you pronounced Caeda but it's understandable considering how people called Falchion until Echoes English pronounced it differently.
I enjoyed this game a lot. Being able to direct allies around the map with orders is great, any Warriors game that has that feature always gains my attention. I keep holding out hope for a sequel that includes less clones, 3 Houses and Tellius content. We like Ike!
I like this game, although it is lower of my warriors tier list. My main is that you have to make sure your partners are switch to do nothing otherwise they tend to get themselves killed as they charge to a point regardless of whats on the way, or beline back to a base whenever they are not controlled, which cuts into the purpose of multiple controlled characters. Also another nitpick i have is that you cant start pair up so you have to spend the first few seconds making sure they meet up to pair, which gets annoying when grinding. Still I do like this game. Been a fire emblem fan since Sacred stones and followed this series through its highs and lows.
what I find stupid about Rowan and Lianna is that they thought of giving them an axe and lance respectively, but decided against it "would help people understand the weapon triangle starting with the sword" and because it "wouldn't feel right to change the protagonists' weapons". That is just so dumb! They act like you don't get Chrom in like a chapter or two.
I dont think FETH was even announced when this came out and when the dlc came out. I always wanted this game to exist when i was a kid, sad all they did was use everything after awakening or marth stroking
No, Three Houses was announced maybe a year after FEW. I was just mentioning this as a missed opportunity to promote the new game by adding a small DLC pack to the last game.
As someone that really disliked most of the roster of this game, think the story is super stupid and doesn't really care about the anime aesthetic... this is my second favorite Warriors game just because of the gameplay and the content available. Which one is my favorite Warriors game? Well, you'll have a comment about it next week.
It was a nice game, the moveset, although cloned, played very nicely. If they do a sequel though, at least make just 2 characters sharing the same moveset, not 4 like with the bow, that was overkill.
Next game I want less Fates, Ike and Roy characters, and maybe Three Houses characters. Hell there’s still a lot of Warriors game potential Xenoblade Warriors Kid Icarus Warriors Mario Warriors Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Houses
@@ScytheJackal Fates doesn't even need more reps to be honest. They should add reps from others games, Ike, Roy, Alm, some characters from Three Houses. Also they could add the Dagger/Knive and Gauntlets as new weapon type/moveset.
When you mention the whole idea of an alternate universe where the settings are merged in a way where they already know each other, it makes me think of Super Robot Wars, which tends to do exactly that. And it's great.
The thing that seriously bothered me was the fact you had so little allies and the enemies took up the whole rest of the map. Like there was no map where your allies felt like an army. It felt like 10-15 v.s. 15,000. Idk man it bothered me so much I quit playing. I even bought the collectors edition for switch and a 3ds version. Also the fire emblem that got me started, the best of the series, and the best 3ds game of all time is Fire Emblem awakening.
I personally like this way of handling the maps. Really makes you feel like a powerful Warrior to take out the whole enemy army by yourself. It also makes some of the History Mode stages more difficult because you need to spread your characters out rather than pair them all up.
Fire Emblem is my favorite franchise and a Warriors crossover was my dream. So when this game was announced I was SO HYPED. But I gotta say, this might be the biggest dissapointment to me. I just have a lot of issues with the roster and such that almost ruin the game for me. Like why do Awakening/Fates get their own story sections while Shadow Dragon just shows up before the final act. Why are there no playable villains or Armor knights??? (other than the mage villains used in the game, they would be boring). Also iirc in a developer interview the devs said they intentionally left beloved characters like Ike and Roy out to use in a potential sequel Sorry for the rant, I'm glad you and many others enjoyed this game and I hope it got people to try out the main series but I feel this just had limitless potential that they hardly capitalized upon
My biggest disappointment with FEW is aside from the clones, the alarming lack of playable Manaketes. Only one character in the entire roster uses Dragonstones as a weapon and it's the joke character Tiki who only becomes useful in her dragon form and I suspect they chose her original child form and not her adult form because...obvious reasons. Yes, there's also Corrin but they're classified as a Sword character. There's also the fact that while Fates and Awakening are pretty popular games, they dominate the roster, leaving Marth's era not even really evening out the roster
FE Warriors is alright. Clones are disappointing, but the gameplay is really solid and I like that incorporates the weapon advantage stuff from the FE games. But all the additional content is just grind, and its really disheartening that the only real reward for that grind is a new character that usually has a cloned moveset.
This is the sad truth with most Warriors games. There's never much of a completionist reward, just a few things here and there and it is very grindy. But I still love it because the gameplay is usually really solid.
The original Hyrule Warriors came out in 2014. The final DLC pack for that game came out in 2016. It's not unrealistic that they could have put DLC in Fire Emblem Warriors.
@@ChrisGildart Yes it is unrealistic. Because they stopped all support for the game WELL before Three Houses was out due to lack of fan support. There's a reason you're the ONLY critic of this game that is complaining that it doesn't have Three Houses characters in it....and it's because everyone else who was complaining about this game years ago had the common sense to see that >_> I think because you're so late to the party here, you've drastically gotten your time frames mixed up, and have somehow convinced yourself you've come up with a valid criticism due to your mixup. There are certainly things to complain about this game not having. This....is not one of them. I don't complain about my Final Fantasy 10 game not having Final Fantasy 11 dlc characters, year(s) before Final Fantasy 11 even came out.... Again, this game's biggest die hard haters never even mentioned that as a criticism.
@@ChrisGildart You had quite the rant in the video over them not putting Byleth in this game that came out a year before Byleth was even released....but you can call it whatever you'd like. I just don't think you understand your time frames >< but to each their own. I suggest doing more research in the future before doing videos like this. Again, there's a reason that even the most die hard haters for this game don't use THAT argument in their videos. And it's not because you were genius enough to uncover a NEW criticism for the game, years later, that everyone else glossed over...it's just that you didn't do your research and you have your time frames mixed up.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate this balanced review of a top-tier musou game. So many just say "eww clones" and write it off. I don't think you were quite generous enough to History Mode and just how good it is. It is one of the best and most extensive endgame modes in the entire genre. But to balance that, as someone who wasn't a massive FE fan at the time, you weren't able to give the poor roster the proper savaging it deserves. So I guess that balances out the pros and cons to roughly the score you gave it. Here's hoping for a proper sequel. Take the same basic game, improve the story, and flesh out the roster and you could have the best game in the genre.
I was considering picking this up, and then you drop the bomb shell that Ike isn't in the game or the DLC. My favorite fire emblem protag of all time isn't in the game that's supposed to represent the history of the franchise.... They royally crapped the bed and I'm just won't bother. This is even worse than Skull Kids omission from smash ultimate *despite* the game's heavy emphasis on adding in the most iconic villains.
Next game I want less Fates, Ike and Roy characters, and maybe Three Houses characters. Hell there’s still a lot of Warriors game potential Xenoblade Warriors Kid Icarus Warriors Mario Warriors Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Houses
On the subject of clones - at least in this game it makes sense - as nearly every character/unit is part of a troop or unit who were trained together That doesn't make it any less dull - but it at least can't be laid COMPLETELY at the feet of laziness xD
The clone move-sets aren't that bad considering the franchise, but what makes it bad for me was who got cloned and the Archers; Chrom and Lucina make sense in lore and Lyn and Navarre are thematically similar, but all four Archers have the same move-set and class which makes it feel irrelevant which one you play or annoying on stages where you only play as them. They could have mixed it up by giving Niles and Anna a trap based style or let Takumi be the only one with wind attacks; or even include a mounted archer which the series has. Also, Marth and Celica are from two different continents and Celica is more about her magic then swordplay, so they shouldn't have the same style. I think the problem with clones wouldn't have been so bad if they included more classes and characters; Knights and Fighters are omitted as playable, the three Pegasus Knights all use spears even though at least one could have used a sword, and Fates gets a bloated group compared to the other groups included.
no mention of how the only grounded spear movesets are DLC... and there is two... and ALL of the base game spear users are clones with the same moveset?
Also, they were flyers, meaning they could get instant killed by Archers before Minerva's special skill was added in her dlc pack. Compare that to the three Axe characters who each had a unique move-set AND class (grounded, mounted, and flight) with one being an Armored subclass which reduces archer damage. Pegasus Knights could heal, but it would have been better to have at least one mounted fighter like Xander and Frederick who used a Spear to give the cast a bit more diversity.
Great video, but I can't help myself but to die a bit every time someone mispronounce or misreads Celica's name... But common, it's not that hard, it's not Cecilia...
@@ChrisGildart maybe it was the autocorrect function. Celica is most certainly not a common name, so it's possible for the program you used to write the script might've changed to Cecilia without you noticing. Again, great video even so. FE Warriors' most certainly one of my favorite warriors, not only by the roster but for how they managed to mix the turn based strategy elements of FE into a real time hack n Slash game.
I really hated this game, it's basically just go here, press a button for musou, go to next area while collecting a musou potion to get another musou. I've never been a fan of the weapon triangle system in Dynasty Warriors games (it's kinda a part of the Fire Emblem series though so idk how they can implement it in a way that feels better). I almost maxed everything and got almost every achievement but It never felt that good to me. The only reason why I played so much was to see if achievement hunting was interesting but it just felt painful. It just feels too empty and repetitive.
Personally, I LOVED this game as one of my all time favorite Warriors games. And I so wished there was a sequel. But it's not going to, because the Fire Emblem toxic community tore it to piece over the silliest things. I just hated that when this game came out, the primary complaint that led to the toxic side of the gatekeeping FE Fandom...was its roster. And if you think about the SOLUTION that was offered by that side of the community....you realize how awful their idea was on a business side. For one, they were upset that it focused on, at the time, the 2 most popular FE verses. That being Awakening and Fates. They felt it should have focused more on the far more obscure lesser known titles, and completely ignored Awakening and Fates. Utter....madness. Yeah....let's create a warriors game for FE....and completely ignore the most popular characters and universe, SOLELY because the gatekeeping side of the community hated everything new. These were beloved characters designed to draw more people in. And FE had already proven that if you IGNORE the features and characters that drew so much needed new blood into the dying FE universe.....it doesn't end well. Like with Echoes.... A game where Nintendo decided to listen to their old guard and simply do a remake that focused entirely on an older and beloved story. Fire Emblem Echoes.. They almost completely did away with any of the shipping features that allowed romance amongst your party (as everything was pre determined), and focused solely on what the old guard SAID they wanted.... And it sold like crap..... Dropping down to numbers far below what they were selling with their older games...even BEFORE Awakening revitalized the series. So, why would you make a FE Warriors game using ONLY characters that, unfortunately, aren't a hugely familiar to the new massive fan base? You don't, unless you are literally setting out to fail while trying appease that will not be appeased. Like with Echoes..... Which led to the SECOND solution offer... Just use characters from ALL the FE games. Mainly, the main characters. ........ ........... ............. You do realize then that 99.999999% of the cast will ONLY be sword users then, right? Almost all your clone characters will be the main characters from each game >< with the only truly unique ones being that very very very rare spear user lol. That just devalues each lord from each FE game. The other solution I saw was....why not just have 100 to 200+ characters for their first game? This way they can easily add more beloved characters for each game! I wish they had done that too! But I'm realistic, so...... In my opinion, they did the absolute best choice they could have done for A FIRST GAME roster. Get people into it with the major characters that a lot of people know and love, with some small entries from the other FE games in there. Marth, Celica, Lynn, etc. And THEN, with your second game....you shift the focus to the other beloved, but lesser known FE games. As well as a huge focus on your majority popular new FE title, Three Houses. Composing of maybe 4 to 7 characters of the roster (Teacher, the Three Lords, a plus one from each house maybe.) Heck, they could even have my favorite FE character, Ike! Who STILL has my favorite storyline of any FE game. Along with my boy Sorin. And since they already had Celica and Lyn....focus on their stories and add some more from them. Alm, Hector, Eliwood, descendent Roy, etc. And with a sequel, and having already gotten your Awakening, and Fates fan base in there.....it really would be a heck of a lot easier to now start adding your classic roster. But.....that'll never happen now. Cause this game got a boycott campaign to death by the people who were upset over the roster. It really does feel like FE is split heavily down the middle. You got the side who loves games like Awakening and Fates and the features of them. And then you got the old guard who ADAMANTLY hates those games, and feels that you should not be allowed to like those games....and still call yourself an FE fan. Thankfully, Three Houses alleviated some of that it seems, and the Old Toxic Guard seem a little less aggressive nowadays. But if you mention Awakening or Fates in a comment section though.....you're usually gonna get called some kind of childish name or attacked by them if they see it. This game however, Warriors.....is quite dead sadly. The old guard can pat themselves on the back for that one. And Nintendo can continue to wonder why it's worth pandering to the old guard, when Echoes sold so badly
Yeah lets make a Warriors game that only focuses on the TWO 3DS entries that already got their time in the sun and completely exclude every other FE game except for a Marth and a couple token guest stars..such a great business plan. /s This game deserved every bit of backlash it got.
I can't stand clones in these games. There is no justification whatsoever. It's not quality if every character plays like another. That's laziness. If devs really couldn't have been bothered to give every character their very own unique moveset, they shouldn't have added them in the game in the first place. And what's disgusting is dlc characters being clones. Really? Pay extra for a new character that pretty much already exists in the base game? Nope. Fuck that.
I didn't mind the clones movesets because there were enough to keep gameplay fresh if you were to swap characters consistently (which is how I play). This was also my first Switch game. I bought it before I bought the Switch because I wanted the collector's edition. I bought it on 3DS as well and found it did not perform well on the system... so that made me break and buy a Switch. lol
I wish we got Roy, Ike and more fan favorites and I kinda wish we got the mobile game characters too. I didn't really have issues with FE: Warriors.
We definitely would have gotten those characters if this game had been better received. But because it wasn't, there will never be a sequel with an expanded roster. I would have loved to personally have seen Ike, as he has my favorite FE story
Crazy thing is there is a development build of them in game along with the boss characters being playable. The plan was for a season pass 2 and along with a chapter would come the free update to add the boss characters. Unfortunately the game didn't do good enough in terms of sales and they canceled it. I can't find the video anymore but it was extremely early but it did show Roy and Ike. Ugh my heart ) :
. Ps there was also to be a challenge mode added like hyrule warriors but expanded on. Would have made some great content end game when you have all characters max leveled and weapons/skills done. You can see this also when it comes to hyrule warriors age of calamity and fire emblem warriors three houses how both games are scaled down compared to both. Trying to go for a more half and half to audience's.
I'm a fan of both so... I picked up this game a while ago and I'm really looking forward to it! Great video as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
About 15 years ago I had a neighbor that had a PS2 Dynasty Warriors game and I really enjoyed being player 2. Im happy to discover the switch has english dub musou games. I'm currently enjoying FEW and recently picked up a last copy of Hyrule Warriors in stores. Great video!
Fun fact. I also got into fire emblem because of this game. It also single handedly made me want a switch. Not botw or odyssey weirdly enough. Lol
For me, I had a feeling Hyrule Warriors would come to Switch, so I was holding out on buying one. I still bought FEW on Switch when it came out just so I would have it. I bought it along with the 3DS version and found it unplayable. So FEW was also the reason I got a Switch. lol
Sorry I missed the premiere! I was babysitting lol... great video! Makes me wanna play FE again!! I started with Sacred Stones on GBA, loved it!
No need to apologize man. I'm glad you enjoyed the video! That's the important thing.
Also, I do concur about the anime. I've been pushing for Fire Emblem to make a dedicated anime series amd one done like Naruto and DragonBall where they start from the very beginning (Shadow Dragon to Three Houses) and gradually pairing canonical couples and adding their children to the adventure and watch them grow like we show with Goku/Gohan and Minato/Naruto/Boruto all while keeping on with the story.
Maybe it's because I'm not a FE fan, but I have such conflicting feelings about this game. Either way, it's the one that got me well and truly into Musou games so that's good.
FE fans hate it even more.
@@GarbenTheBerserker And rightly so, since it did ignore the existence of most of the franchise.
But unlike Zelda fans, FE fans actually bought it. For the sake if simplicity, let's assume every single person who bought both games is a franchise fan. Less than 14% of all Zelda fans (3 million of over 21 million in 2020) bought Age of Calamity, and much less for Hyrule Warriors. Roughly half of FE fans (1 million of roughly 2 million in 2017) bought FE Warriors. The numbers for Persona 5 Strikers, btw, convert to about 43% (1.3 million of 3 million).
The difference in attitude is simple. Koei respected Zelda, while Zelda fans mostly snubbed their nose at the musou genre. FE fans actually wanted a Warriors game, but also wanted FE to be treated with the same level of respect (that it most certainly didn't receive).
Your channel deserves at least 50x more subs than you currently have. Super high quality and lots of effort. I wish I had found you earlier. Thanks for the hard work!
Thanks Ethan! I'm glad you enjoy the content!
It's so relieving having English voice acting
I know, right?
In the Orochi games or Spirit of Sanada I always paused the stages from time to time to read all the missed dialogue in the log... Tbh thats ok for me in Samurai Warriors games where it makes sense and adds to the flair that they speak Japanese, but with these Nintendo franchises it would have been bad.
I didn't even know about fire emblem until the warriors
Lyn,Tiki,Tharja and Navarre!! 😍
How iconic considering I JUST got through writing a blog in Fire Emblem Amino specifically why I would want a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 lol. However it is a massive blog so I will only super cut the certain things but before that can I just say that I was really happy that this game had an English dub? I was literally crying when I found out that nearly all the voice actors from each respective game pretty much came back with the exception of certain characters but for the most part, everyone did a fine job and with this, Persona 5 Strikers and Age of Calamity, we get English dubs again at least for a while. Not to mention even I enjoyed the use of the weapon triangle system implemented from the games in a Warrior's fashion because it makes sense seeing that is how fire emblem rolls and the best thing about this game is literally the support conversations. Seriously there's plenty of supports in this game that make me go that's adorable that's cute I like that conversation that character actually pointed out that other characters massive flaw and finally Lyn slapping Takumi.........life is good. Sadly there is the shortcomings of the game which ironically I mention those in my blog as well especially when it came to the clones. They could have easily made everyone unique even with the same weapon especially since apparently in samurai Warriors 5 they are gonna make the characters have different move sets despite having the same weapon so why didn't they do this for fire emblem Warriors is beyond me. Then there's the fact that the story is just not that good and the 2 original characters are literally the exact same character except with a gender swap so I mentioned that maybe they can do one story where the characters do get sent there but they have to fight a common enemy or what you say: Have the characters already be in that particular world and develop them naturally through that scenario and then another story mode that I just thought up have a created character that you make interact with the characters build supports with them and this is someone that also suggested this do what 3 houses did and have your character marry them and get a CG ending. Speaking of 3 houses they could have easily had Byleth/Beleth playable especially since KT did develop Three Houses and if not, then in a sequel, MAKE THEM ALONG WITH THE HOUSE LEADERS BE PLAYABLE!!!! If Lianshi could be reincarnated as a plant dude in Age of Calamity then Wang Yuanji should be reincarnated as Edelgard in a Warriors game and yeah History Mode is a massive chore and I really don't like playing through it. This was a very well done review and while Fire emblem Warriors definitely has it's issues, at least it got you into the series and I did hear from some who really like this game so...... I said it before and I'll say it again KT make a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 and for the love of God, GIVE ROBIN TAKAKAGE'S MOVESET!!!!!! Clears throat again soild review Chris!
I also hope they make a sequel, I was even making a fanfic series on my thoughts for the plot; I haven't worked on it since the pandemic but I still have the plot points I wanted memorized. If you want to read it my name on Amino is Mattobito and I have a Wiki where I was putting the chapters for ease of access.
I think cloning works for this series, the only problem is the character count doesn't necessitate it and the choices on who and how the clones happen. The only group I hated were the Archers as they were using a move set based on Takumi's special weapon and all four archers were the same class and moveset. One could have been mounted or used bombs instead of wind. 2 clones should be the max for that game with 3 being a bit much, but 4 was excessive especially with no alternative to accompany the weapon type. Axes had three classes (grounded, mounted, and flight) in the base game, while Spears were all flight and Archers all grounded; only the Spear type got some diversity.
Otherwise, FE Warriors was one of my favorite titles and I enjoyed most of what they used. I'm hoping the next title includes Tellius and Valentia with some more Shadow Dragon officers like FE 1 Hardin.
@@mattobitohall Ya hopefully when we do get a sequel which we should considering that again age of calamity pirate Warriors 4 and persona 5 strikers have proven that they CAN make an interesting roster, it should be a no brainer. Plus there's a whole lot of characters from a lot of the games in the series that they could use and if they still want to use a small number of games with a specific number of characters then it has to be the ones that work like what they did with dragon quest heroes or something like that. I'll be sure to check out your little cliff notes on what you were planning on writing!
@@MrDarksol Their not really cliff-notes but full chapters. I intended to write a full story and try to include how the stages would work in each chapter. It might be a longer read.
I agree they could make a good roster if they focus a bit more on the armies and relationships from each game, Fates' problem was that everyone was from the royal family of both groups which forced them to be bigger than the other groups in my opinion. I personally want them to focus on adding characters related by groups; like Celica getting Valbar, Bowe, Saber, or Leon while Alm is included with Clyde, Clair, Kliff, or Lucas.
@@mattobitohall I'm pretty much OK with longer reads as long as what I'm reading is interesting and not super bloated lol. I came across plenty of fan fictions that end up being super bloated because of a lot of unnecessary information and things like that.
I started with Awakening. Wasn't big on Three Houses though.
I haven't played any of the 3DS games yet. Three Houses was my first traditional FE game. But I'm enjoying the GBA game.
FE Warriors gets a bad rap because of the clones and the coverage and it being kinda grindy, but I feel like it's actually pretty decent.
DW3 was my first game in the series, but I've been super into them lately.
I kinda disagree with the whole clones thing. I know that a lot of people had issues with clone characters, but I think it was more with the lack of characters. Now I know that they said that they were going to focus on Fates, Awakening, and the OG game. Along with Lyn and Celica as a bonus, but I think a lot of people were hoping for more characters, like the Black Knight being the Lu Bu of the FE: Warriors game.
The grindy thing really only applies to the base game (and it's nowhere near as bad as Hyrule Warriors). If you own the dlc, you have enough stages to NEVER need to replay stages outside of the occassional 2nd Anna painting.
I'm surprised you didn't mention movesets being locked behind Masters Seals at all during this review. Considering one of the cons you mentioned during your Pirate Warriors 4 review was moveset unlocking islands being on the character specific maps instead of the shared map, I'd have thought this even more restrictive moveset limitation would have been a con for sure.
It's a real shame, speaking personally. That one decision on the part of the designers has pretty much killed my desire to continue playing Fire Emblem Warriors, which sucks because I like just about everything else about it, even as someone completely unfamiliar with Fire Emblem. I can't see a reason to play it over Musou games with far easier to unlock movesets like Samurai Warriors 4, or the current GOAT Fate Extella LINK which basically just gives your characters their entire movesets from the get-go and makes all other forms of progression shared across the cast.
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss, can't wait
I like how the cloned moveset issue is mitigated to some extent by the stats system. Among the archers, Niles is a great mage-killer with his high Resistance, Sakura makes a strong magic-bow user with her Magic, Takumi is strong and deals massive critical hits, but he's quite fragile in return, and Anna's Luck is seriously abusable with Supports and Skills to let her simply ignore most of the enemies' defenses.
Darios/Validar/Iago/Gharnef were possibly planned as being playable, but they ran into some issue with having 32 characters already. Perhaps some quirk of the coding wouldn't let them go above that, since it's a power of two... that would also explain the lack of Three Houses content.
The story is simply an excuse, I do agree. Nothing like Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity, where they did something more unique.
I really do hope they're at least planning a sequel, allowing for different games to be represented, like Roy meeting Ike, or for an Age of Calamity-like entirely new telling of Three Houses, where you can have everyone on your team (say... pairing Hubert and Dedue in battle) and change the story. Like you said, they have the game assets and knowledge, so it absolutely can be done.
8/10 is a fair score. It's still one of my favorite games ever, but I'm allowed to love a flawed masterpiece.
hype
Good stuff as allways, Chris.
....so umm, can we talk you into reviewing Utawarerumono Zan?
It's on the list. Don't worry. 👀
I know this is late but you actually can't change to performance mode when in handheld. That's only an option you get when docked. When undocked, you're forced to play 720p at 30 Frames.
Also back in 2017, the newest Fire Emblem game at the time was Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Velentia and both that game and Warriors were released in the same year. I know you mentioned it was a missed opportunity to not add Three Houses as some form of DLC but at the time Three Houses didn't even exist outside of just a teaser that said there was a New Fire Emblem game in development for Switch. Three Houses was announced at E3 Summer 2018 and the Warriors DLC wrapped up sometime in March or April of 2018. Seeing as they pretty much finished the game as a whole, I doubt there was any intention of going back to add extra DLC unless we got an expanded version. But hey, we ended up getting Three Hopes in 2022 so that's cool.
Yeah, I just thought adding Byleth would have been like an extra bonus DLC to keep this game alive a little longer in the market while being essentially an advertisement for the next game. Kinda like what they did with Zhou Cang in Warriors All-Stars.
@@ChrisGildart Lol I was hoping for that myself, with perhaps a Season Pass 2 or an expanded/definitive version similar to Hyrule Warriors, but sadly it wasn't meant to be. I'm hopeful for a Fire Emblem Warriors 2 that has more characters from the series but Three Hopes fills the gap until the next one comes out.
Looove FE Warriors big time
5:15 Instead pronouncing as "kae-da" like before Warriors got released, according to her Support Conversations between some characters, Caeda pronunciation in English was actually "ˈsidə/see-da" like Japanese counterpart which is also "Sheeda / シーダ".
She was one of my favorite characters to play as in Shadow Dragon, New Mystery of the Emblem, Heroes, and of course Warriors.
14:38 Still continues to this day with completely different Three Hopes which is just entirely Three Houses without returning characters not even Roy & Ike would expect made into it.
The game's movesets are better than HW but it has clones, quality over quantity.
Thing is, most people don't care about that, they'll take unique movesets even if it means some are unoptimal; what they want is their characters represented in an original way, because half of the fun is finally getting to use your favourite character.
Unique movesets will always be our choice; it's the entire point when making a game based of an existing franchise.
This game just didn't do as well as HW so it didn't get all the updates and care that game got.
It's still a lot of fun and worth playing, even if it's not the best musou.
Heh, not me. I got bored way too fast with most movesets in HW. The quality of quantity in FEW mattered a lot to me
I recently got this for the 2ds and i honestly think this might my second favorite warriors spin off. However I wished we got more original playable characters besides Rowan and Lana.
I did play the game on game stop this was 2018 I was like wow awesome game.
This was pretty great, and I think that long term support of this game could've made a ton of money and been a real treat for fire emblem fans with all the rich history the series contains.
Who knows. Maybe if we're vocal about it, we'll see a sequel.
@@ChrisGildart I think it could work, especially since 3 Houses has had such critical and financial success. I've been a Warriors fan since playing couch co-op with my sister on DW3. So all these new options are welcome in my book.
I mean, as a massive and I mean MASSIVE FE fan I can kinda see your point about the storyline BUT - Here's the thing about that. They're not from different universes. They're just from different eras of that same universe and each era is a few hundred to a thousand years apart.
Finally got to watching this, luckily this review was around about what I expected it to go with the clones thing and the other fun stuff and some things that are mixed but understandable. The only real thing that I am at a disagreement on is Byleth DLC as while that can be really good, I don't see a place for it in this game at all considering when the games came out and whatnot. Also the main reason why I say this is because of they ever made a Fire Emblem Warriors 2, that would be a great place to add him and the gang in and I would kill if that ever happened so I use that as a hope that they may make a sequel of sorts eventually. Side note as well that one of the extra characters is Celica who is kinda based on Fire Emblem Echoes that released about 5 months before this game came out.
Also as someone who has played some FE games, I believe it is pronounced (Shee-da) and not how you pronounced Caeda but it's understandable considering how people called Falchion until Echoes English pronounced it differently.
I agree the Ike not being in this game is baffling, but is Roy really that well knows out side of Smash.
I enjoyed this game a lot. Being able to direct allies around the map with orders is great, any Warriors game that has that feature always gains my attention. I keep holding out hope for a sequel that includes less clones, 3 Houses and Tellius content. We like Ike!
I would love to see a Three Houses specific Warriors game. Similar to Age of Calamity and Hyrule Warriors.
I like this game, although it is lower of my warriors tier list. My main is that you have to make sure your partners are switch to do nothing otherwise they tend to get themselves killed as they charge to a point regardless of whats on the way, or beline back to a base whenever they are not controlled, which cuts into the purpose of multiple controlled characters. Also another nitpick i have is that you cant start pair up so you have to spend the first few seconds making sure they meet up to pair, which gets annoying when grinding. Still I do like this game. Been a fire emblem fan since Sacred stones and followed this series through its highs and lows.
what I find stupid about Rowan and Lianna is that they thought of giving them an axe and lance respectively, but decided against it "would help people understand the weapon triangle starting with the sword" and because it "wouldn't feel right to change the protagonists' weapons". That is just so dumb! They act like you don't get Chrom in like a chapter or two.
Seriously the fact that Ike and Roy aren't in this game , may be a deal breaker for me, though I may purchase it if I can find it for the low.
It's still a decent game without them sucks that they weren't included though.
I dont think FETH was even announced when this came out and when the dlc came out.
I always wanted this game to exist when i was a kid, sad all they did was use everything after awakening or marth stroking
No, Three Houses was announced maybe a year after FEW. I was just mentioning this as a missed opportunity to promote the new game by adding a small DLC pack to the last game.
As someone that really disliked most of the roster of this game, think the story is super stupid and doesn't really care about the anime aesthetic... this is my second favorite Warriors game just because of the gameplay and the content available. Which one is my favorite Warriors game? Well, you'll have a comment about it next week.
It was a nice game, the moveset, although cloned, played very nicely. If they do a sequel though, at least make just 2 characters sharing the same moveset, not 4 like with the bow, that was overkill.
Or have a weapon swapping system like DW7. I wouldn't mind that.
Next game I want less Fates, Ike and Roy characters, and maybe Three Houses characters.
Hell there’s still a lot of Warriors game potential
Xenoblade Warriors
Kid Icarus Warriors
Mario Warriors
Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Houses
@@ScytheJackal Fates doesn't even need more reps to be honest. They should add reps from others games, Ike, Roy, Alm, some characters from Three Houses. Also they could add the Dagger/Knive and Gauntlets as new weapon type/moveset.
Exactly!!
Just ordered myself a copy
So excited but a little nervous
Why you nervous? It's a decent game. lol
Hop you enjoy!
When you mention the whole idea of an alternate universe where the settings are merged in a way where they already know each other, it makes me think of Super Robot Wars, which tends to do exactly that. And it's great.
I've always wanted to get into SRW. Glad to hear it's not the clichéd story we see in a lot of cross over content.
Will you be doing a review of dw gundam?
I do plan on eventually covering every Warriors game that's ever been made. Each Musou May will be a different theme, but Gundam is on my list.
The thing that seriously bothered me was the fact you had so little allies and the enemies took up the whole rest of the map. Like there was no map where your allies felt like an army. It felt like 10-15 v.s. 15,000. Idk man it bothered me so much I quit playing. I even bought the collectors edition for switch and a 3ds version. Also the fire emblem that got me started, the best of the series, and the best 3ds game of all time is Fire Emblem awakening.
I personally like this way of handling the maps. Really makes you feel like a powerful Warrior to take out the whole enemy army by yourself. It also makes some of the History Mode stages more difficult because you need to spread your characters out rather than pair them all up.
Well that is incredibly accurate to fire emblem then, 5 dudes against an army of like 30 guys at times.
Ike-onic.
Finaly
Fire Emblem is my favorite franchise and a Warriors crossover was my dream. So when this game was announced I was SO HYPED. But I gotta say, this might be the biggest dissapointment to me. I just have a lot of issues with the roster and such that almost ruin the game for me. Like why do Awakening/Fates get their own story sections while Shadow Dragon just shows up before the final act. Why are there no playable villains or Armor knights??? (other than the mage villains used in the game, they would be boring). Also iirc in a developer interview the devs said they intentionally left beloved characters like Ike and Roy out to use in a potential sequel
Sorry for the rant, I'm glad you and many others enjoyed this game and I hope it got people to try out the main series but I feel this just had limitless potential that they hardly capitalized upon
My biggest disappointment with FEW is aside from the clones, the alarming lack of playable Manaketes. Only one character in the entire roster uses Dragonstones as a weapon and it's the joke character Tiki who only becomes useful in her dragon form and I suspect they chose her original child form and not her adult form because...obvious reasons. Yes, there's also Corrin but they're classified as a Sword character. There's also the fact that while Fates and Awakening are pretty popular games, they dominate the roster, leaving Marth's era not even really evening out the roster
The game was pretty fun!
FE Warriors is alright. Clones are disappointing, but the gameplay is really solid and I like that incorporates the weapon advantage stuff from the FE games. But all the additional content is just grind, and its really disheartening that the only real reward for that grind is a new character that usually has a cloned moveset.
This is the sad truth with most Warriors games. There's never much of a completionist reward, just a few things here and there and it is very grindy. But I still love it because the gameplay is usually really solid.
Where da roys our boy and da ike blue flame boom
GOOD JOB CHRIS
You do realize this game came out over a year before Byleth and the Three Houses even came out right....?
The original Hyrule Warriors came out in 2014. The final DLC pack for that game came out in 2016. It's not unrealistic that they could have put DLC in Fire Emblem Warriors.
@@ChrisGildart Yes it is unrealistic. Because they stopped all support for the game WELL before Three Houses was out due to lack of fan support.
There's a reason you're the ONLY critic of this game that is complaining that it doesn't have Three Houses characters in it....and it's because everyone else who was complaining about this game years ago had the common sense to see that >_> I think because you're so late to the party here, you've drastically gotten your time frames mixed up, and have somehow convinced yourself you've come up with a valid criticism due to your mixup.
There are certainly things to complain about this game not having. This....is not one of them. I don't complain about my Final Fantasy 10 game not having Final Fantasy 11 dlc characters, year(s) before Final Fantasy 11 even came out....
Again, this game's biggest die hard haters never even mentioned that as a criticism.
I wasn't complaining, I was saying it would have been good to see.
@@ChrisGildart You had quite the rant in the video over them not putting Byleth in this game that came out a year before Byleth was even released....but you can call it whatever you'd like.
I just don't think you understand your time frames >< but to each their own. I suggest doing more research in the future before doing videos like this.
Again, there's a reason that even the most die hard haters for this game don't use THAT argument in their videos. And it's not because you were genius enough to uncover a NEW criticism for the game, years later, that everyone else glossed over...it's just that you didn't do your research and you have your time frames mixed up.
Just wanted to say how much I appreciate this balanced review of a top-tier musou game. So many just say "eww clones" and write it off.
I don't think you were quite generous enough to History Mode and just how good it is. It is one of the best and most extensive endgame modes in the entire genre. But to balance that, as someone who wasn't a massive FE fan at the time, you weren't able to give the poor roster the proper savaging it deserves.
So I guess that balances out the pros and cons to roughly the score you gave it.
Here's hoping for a proper sequel. Take the same basic game, improve the story, and flesh out the roster and you could have the best game in the genre.
When it comes to voice acting, pretty sure all the FATES VAs are replaced. Or at least a good number are.
Have you played the Dragon Quest Heroes games?
Yup. Haven't finished either though. They're on my list to finish so I can review them.
I was considering picking this up, and then you drop the bomb shell that Ike isn't in the game or the DLC. My favorite fire emblem protag of all time isn't in the game that's supposed to represent the history of the franchise.... They royally crapped the bed and I'm just won't bother. This is even worse than Skull Kids omission from smash ultimate *despite* the game's heavy emphasis on adding in the most iconic villains.
Next game I want less Fates, Ike and Roy characters, and maybe Three Houses characters.
Hell there’s still a lot of Warriors game potential
Xenoblade Warriors
Kid Icarus Warriors
Mario Warriors
Fire Emblem Warriors: Three Houses
On the subject of clones - at least in this game it makes sense - as nearly every character/unit is part of a troop or unit who were trained together
That doesn't make it any less dull - but it at least can't be laid COMPLETELY at the feet of laziness xD
Where the hell is Ike? :(
The biggest mystery of this game.
Premiers are so exceedingly pointless
I love the game. The roster was the biggest sin. Missing so many amazing characters for so many.... "mehs".
The clone move-sets aren't that bad considering the franchise, but what makes it bad for me was who got cloned and the Archers; Chrom and Lucina make sense in lore and Lyn and Navarre are thematically similar, but all four Archers have the same move-set and class which makes it feel irrelevant which one you play or annoying on stages where you only play as them. They could have mixed it up by giving Niles and Anna a trap based style or let Takumi be the only one with wind attacks; or even include a mounted archer which the series has. Also, Marth and Celica are from two different continents and Celica is more about her magic then swordplay, so they shouldn't have the same style.
I think the problem with clones wouldn't have been so bad if they included more classes and characters; Knights and Fighters are omitted as playable, the three Pegasus Knights all use spears even though at least one could have used a sword, and Fates gets a bloated group compared to the other groups included.
no mention of how the only grounded spear movesets are DLC... and there is two... and ALL of the base game spear users are clones with the same moveset?
I mentioned which characters are DLC and who shares movesets with who.
@@ChrisGildart no denying that, I just think this deserves specific mention. This is one of the worst showings for one's since DW6 imo
Also, they were flyers, meaning they could get instant killed by Archers before Minerva's special skill was added in her dlc pack. Compare that to the three Axe characters who each had a unique move-set AND class (grounded, mounted, and flight) with one being an Armored subclass which reduces archer damage. Pegasus Knights could heal, but it would have been better to have at least one mounted fighter like Xander and Frederick who used a Spear to give the cast a bit more diversity.
Anyone knows the psn of this dude? Wanna see his plats at psnp.
Great video, but I can't help myself but to die a bit every time someone mispronounce or misreads Celica's name... But common, it's not that hard, it's not Cecilia...
Oh shit. lol pretty sure I wrote it down as Celica too.
@@ChrisGildart maybe it was the autocorrect function. Celica is most certainly not a common name, so it's possible for the program you used to write the script might've changed to Cecilia without you noticing. Again, great video even so. FE Warriors' most certainly one of my favorite warriors, not only by the roster but for how they managed to mix the turn based strategy elements of FE into a real time hack n Slash game.
I really hated this game, it's basically just go here, press a button for musou, go to next area while collecting a musou potion to get another musou. I've never been a fan of the weapon triangle system in Dynasty Warriors games (it's kinda a part of the Fire Emblem series though so idk how they can implement it in a way that feels better). I almost maxed everything and got almost every achievement but It never felt that good to me. The only reason why I played so much was to see if achievement hunting was interesting but it just felt painful. It just feels too empty and repetitive.
Bro speaked like 6 different movesets when theres 19
Personally, I LOVED this game as one of my all time favorite Warriors games. And I so wished there was a sequel. But it's not going to, because the Fire Emblem toxic community tore it to piece over the silliest things.
I just hated that when this game came out, the primary complaint that led to the toxic side of the gatekeeping FE Fandom...was its roster.
And if you think about the SOLUTION that was offered by that side of the community....you realize how awful their idea was on a business side.
For one, they were upset that it focused on, at the time, the 2 most popular FE verses. That being Awakening and Fates.
They felt it should have focused more on the far more obscure lesser known titles, and completely ignored Awakening and Fates.
Utter....madness.
Yeah....let's create a warriors game for FE....and completely ignore the most popular characters and universe, SOLELY because the gatekeeping side of the community hated everything new.
These were beloved characters designed to draw more people in. And FE had already proven that if you IGNORE the features and characters that drew so much needed new blood into the dying FE universe.....it doesn't end well.
Like with Echoes....
A game where Nintendo decided to listen to their old guard and simply do a remake that focused entirely on an older and beloved story. Fire Emblem Echoes.. They almost completely did away with any of the shipping features that allowed romance amongst your party (as everything was pre determined), and focused solely on what the old guard SAID they wanted....
And it sold like crap.....
Dropping down to numbers far below what they were selling with their older games...even BEFORE Awakening revitalized the series.
So, why would you make a FE Warriors game using ONLY characters that, unfortunately, aren't a hugely familiar to the new massive fan base?
You don't, unless you are literally setting out to fail while trying appease that will not be appeased.
Like with Echoes.....
Which led to the SECOND solution offer...
Just use characters from ALL the FE games. Mainly, the main characters.
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You do realize then that 99.999999% of the cast will ONLY be sword users then, right? Almost all your clone characters will be the main characters from each game >< with the only truly unique ones being that very very very rare spear user lol.
That just devalues each lord from each FE game.
The other solution I saw was....why not just have 100 to 200+ characters for their first game? This way they can easily add more beloved characters for each game!
I wish they had done that too! But I'm realistic, so......
In my opinion, they did the absolute best choice they could have done for A FIRST GAME roster. Get people into it with the major characters that a lot of people know and love, with some small entries from the other FE games in there. Marth, Celica, Lynn, etc.
And THEN, with your second game....you shift the focus to the other beloved, but lesser known FE games. As well as a huge focus on your majority popular new FE title, Three Houses. Composing of maybe 4 to 7 characters of the roster (Teacher, the Three Lords, a plus one from each house maybe.)
Heck, they could even have my favorite FE character, Ike! Who STILL has my favorite storyline of any FE game. Along with my boy Sorin.
And since they already had Celica and Lyn....focus on their stories and add some more from them. Alm, Hector, Eliwood, descendent Roy, etc.
And with a sequel, and having already gotten your Awakening, and Fates fan base in there.....it really would be a heck of a lot easier to now start adding your classic roster.
But.....that'll never happen now. Cause this game got a boycott campaign to death by the people who were upset over the roster.
It really does feel like FE is split heavily down the middle. You got the side who loves games like Awakening and Fates and the features of them.
And then you got the old guard who ADAMANTLY hates those games, and feels that you should not be allowed to like those games....and still call yourself an FE fan.
Thankfully, Three Houses alleviated some of that it seems, and the Old Toxic Guard seem a little less aggressive nowadays. But if you mention Awakening or Fates in a comment section though.....you're usually gonna get called some kind of childish name or attacked by them if they see it.
This game however, Warriors.....is quite dead sadly. The old guard can pat themselves on the back for that one. And Nintendo can continue to wonder why it's worth pandering to the old guard, when Echoes sold so badly
Yeah lets make a Warriors game that only focuses on the TWO 3DS entries that already got their time in the sun and completely exclude every other FE game except for a Marth and a couple token guest stars..such a great business plan. /s
This game deserved every bit of backlash it got.
I can't stand clones in these games. There is no justification whatsoever. It's not quality if every character plays like another. That's laziness. If devs really couldn't have been bothered to give every character their very own unique moveset, they shouldn't have added them in the game in the first place. And what's disgusting is dlc characters being clones. Really? Pay extra for a new character that pretty much already exists in the base game? Nope. Fuck that.
This was the first game I bought for Switch, and as fun as it was at first, I got bored of it quickly because of the *cloned movesets*
I didn't mind the clones movesets because there were enough to keep gameplay fresh if you were to swap characters consistently (which is how I play).
This was also my first Switch game. I bought it before I bought the Switch because I wanted the collector's edition. I bought it on 3DS as well and found it did not perform well on the system... so that made me break and buy a Switch. lol
This game's movesets and combos were god awful.
im sorry bro, but these english dubs really suck lol. like more power to ya. but deng