Terrible coaching , starting with piroe doesn't defend, bamford a disaster, Aaronson to many mistakes , last game with youngster up front do chase and defend , bad coach
I agree that it would be good if farke could take some responsibility, I am really good at making excuses as well as farke and im trying to better myself for real. Maybe im a bit more mature than farke on that point....
As a Sunderland fan. Leeds are the best team in the league by far when they play at their best. I’ve got no doubt that you will be in and around automatics at the end of the season. I think you’s put too much pressure on yourselves to be honest. It’s a hard league. Good luck for the rest of the season!
Thanks mate - I’m still really positive but I think a lot of fans are just really worried what would happen if we didn’t go up this time. We have a lot of bad memories that haunt us, so I think it’s more of a panic that things could get even worse if it doesn’t happen this time. You got a great comeback yesterday, I think you’ll definitely be up there too. Sunderland and Leeds both sleeping giants
Agree mate, we don't expect prime Barca but away from home versus home is like chalk and cheese and its baffling. We also are doing the same as last season which is why a lot of us are worried as our manager doesn't seem to be learning anything and then we see the GK (who is substandard) that he thinks is the 'best in league' and then that striker coming on - its mind boggling what he does.
You’s are a very good team. What will be will be won’t it. Don’t lose hope as long as you keep supporting the team you love that’s all that matters isn’t it. I don’t actually care if we(Sunderland) go up this season. Don’t get me wrong it would be nice I would love the derby days against Newcastle to be back but I think we would just come straight back down. I’m just enjoying the fact that we are competing and playing some decent football in the majority of the games and that is good to see. I think the Premier League isn’t all it’s cracked out to be nowadays to be honest. Clubs are turning into tourist attractions and they’re pricing allot of loyal fans out and they don’t realise it. That league has been ruined by money it’s just one big enterprise. The championship is much more enjoyable to watch even with the shit refs!😂
Unfortunately for us 'in and around the automatics' at the end isn't good enough as we are regular bottlers. That song everyone sings 'Leeds are falling apart again ' is based on years of bottling it when it counts
@@simapark unfortunately that’s part and parcel of competitive football don’t put your expectations too high. The song is being sung by away fans because you as a club have let yourself get in that position of entitlement but when you are confident you play that good football you sing that back that’s when you know you are winning really. Just enjoy it I don’t know any other fans in England singing disrespects back like Leeds are! Top fans!!
I really feel like yesterday’s result is on Meslier. He got both hands on the ball and it still went in. That’s probably 4 or 5 goals this year he should have saved. Unfortunately, we weren’t up 3 Nil. Nope these errors cost points. We need an upgrade badly.
@@helenwalker92what about his infuriating lack of flexibility once things are not going well (which was obvious about 5 minutes in today). His in game management is laughably bad
@@kipa170 No point 1, 2 and 3 are still correct and he had a cheat code in Raphinha - he was utterly incompetent and carried by our best player in decades.
Not sure why is it always on Farke when we lose/draw and it’s not on Farke when we win? Are the players ever responsible for a poor performance? There were lots of wayward passes, chances missed, we’re on top for most of the team stats in league, away from we’re 8th, we’re one win from top. Farke has the highest average points per game in Leeds history. Has everyone just got on board since Farke started?
Because he's the manager ! He picks the underperforming players! He didn't deliver last season and it' looks like he's gunna struggle to do it this season too
Bamford is just trying to prove a point tryner be smug he could not score a own goal or if it bounced off his arse would still miss with no keeper he's just pure pure woeful
@@GargantuanDthat’s the problem , maybe a mid table side will take him but he won’t leave as he knows he’ll not ever get better wages elsewhere , he had a one season wonder and the club signed a long term deal with him crazy stuff . He even had worse miss ratio in all leagues the year Leeds stonked the league
@@coner4675 Yep, something that people forget - the 2 season in the Championship with Bielsa it drove me daft the amount of chances he would get on a plate. We created and missed more back then - albeit the football was better 9 times out of 10 - with an inferior squad, lets not forget
Farke's away performances have also been well off it, after a great game against Middlesbrough he drops Jospeh for Piroe, he puts Byram at LB and drops Wober, he brings Bamford on for half an hour, I mean these are serious questions somebody needs to be putting on the manager I feel like we need answers
Greetings from a Canadian in Oz. Realistically, our away form has to improve in order to secure automatic promotion. We need to be active in the January window and bring in at least one real quality player that adds goals/assists. Failure to strengthen the squad could be very costly, as I suspect our competition will look to add.
Not a huge Farke fan but changing a manager when he’s sat in the automatic positions would be insane! Brum changed theirs when they were in a good place and look what happened to them!
1. If Leeds' away form doesn't improve they won't go up. 2. Leeds carry very little aerial threat from set pieces or at all. 3. A genuine alternative to Meslier is required.
Preston played a version of a Low Block. They played to absorb our attacks, falsely giving the impression they were playing a Low Block where their plan was to make us commit players forward and hit us on a counter attack, They kept Osmajic up top for an outlet, where other teams would be 11 behind the ball. They counter really quickly and it seems our offensive players were slow to react to the counter, expecting Struik or Rodon to mop up, but they didnt. Once they scored though, they pretty much implemented a low block mentality, it was difficult to break down especially with Piroe up top, but once Bamford came on and later Joseph, Prestons defense had to defend better. We committed our attacking players to taking their defenders on, Ramazani tried, Solomon had success where Brendan and Willy kept everything in front of them. This tells me Brendan and Willy are not the creative players when up against Low Blocks, but they're limited by the number 9 being a nuisance to the defense.... no nuisance no effect.... Its clear, Piroe needs to be dropped against Low Block likely teams and put Solomon and Ramazani on, players who will attack the defence, forcing them to make challenges, make tackles and often they get them wrong, and we get set pieces around their box, which we can put them under more pressure. If I can see this, I don't understand why Farke cannot.
I hear this "We've got to improve" but the man responsible for said improvement has continually proved he is utterly incapable of resolving this. A better more astute tactically nous coach & we absolutely stroll this league. Farke is the problem end of...
My three things: 1. Why are we criticising a manager who has us in 2nd place 2. Sheffield U don't have the added pressure of being Leeds 3. We are not a fanbase that would tolerate a counter-attacking style, so we are susceptible to counter-attacking teams in my humble opinion
To me it appears Farke goes for the win at home, away he sends the players out to keep the ball and hopefully not concede. If we get the draw that feeds into his 2 points a game plan, if we get the win it's a bonus. Yesterday Piroe was running the back line looking for space in the first 20 but we turned and went back to the centre backs instead of taking a chance and trying to feed him. That has to be the managers instructions.
Meslier aside (we all feel the same) I felt we slowed down too often when we could have attacked quickly, Aaronson guilty a lot but not the only one .Possession is great but not if you are not doing anything with it. It was only when its was shit or bust in that last 10 mins that we saw what we could be doing from kick off.
The club ubderinvested in key positions and did not give the manager the cam required for his system to work properly. The manager is too rigid tactically and makes substitutions too late. Finally away from home we really need to play Ramazani as he scares the pants off any defence and actually hits the target when he shoots
Farke again in game management abysmal. Why keep playing Bamford. Why keep picking meslier. Why do we start these away games the same. Sheffield United would have won that game and that's why Sheffield United will win this league.
I’m no Farke fan & whatever happens, come the end of the season, he should go but if we had a half decent keeper in goal, yesterday, their goal would have been saved. Meslier is the problem. He is going to cost us a lot of points this season. Is anybody telling me that Darlo would do a worse job? Right now, I’m more Meslier out than Farke out.
We have to go away to our top 2 rivals, if away form doesn't improve we will be giving them both 3 points head start. The tone is wrong at the start of away games, we don't get on the front foot from the off, instead we faff around on the half way line and lose any early momentum. We need to attack from the off and let the shackles off . Our tactics always give the opposition a chance and as we know, they only need one with Mes in goal.
1. We are still at the mercy or away form 2. Manger is trying but my god more needed 3. Instead If gets promoted is NOWHERE near enough and that’s what scares me
Sam playing at left back inhibits our attack on that side, Schmit needs to be given a chance. Brendan is not the answer at 10. Fantastic energy to press but rarely wins the ball back and has no creativity. Ilan is a bag of nerves whenever the ball enters our box. He doesn't have the self confidence to save shots.
Thank you CONOR 👍👌 Unfortunately I've resorted to the fact that I can see us getting to the playoffs & then we all know what happens then 😢😥 Terrible, we should be blowing teams away home & away with the players we've got 😫😩 This season I've noticed we're missing the type of goals that SUMMERVILLE & GNONTO were scoring from the left & right, how many of those type of goals have we seen this season? No one cutting in from the left or right & shooting at the far post across or curling in the top corner 😩😫 A staple of our goals were being scored like this home & away 😫😩🙏
My thinking at the moment is that yes Farke absolutely has to adapt and improve in some areas of his game. His starting 11 wasn’t right, but his subs were earlier and they did work, saving us a point. He needs to work on faster build up plays in my opinion, we are far too static and the players don’t often keep moving so we become a bit stagnant. Having said that - I think my biggest gripe so far has been the chances wasted, by players. Look, most of them have been brilliant for us most of the time. But there have been TOO many blunders already. Aaronson has missed at least three sitters that come to mind, including last night. Bamford missed the easy tap in, DJ and Gnonto have both been wasteful in games, Joseph missed the first minute chance against Burnley and a couple of others, and then we have Meslier who has probably cost us about 5 points already. Farke can only do so much - even against low block teams, even against teams that come to hack us down, we still create AMPLE opportunity to score, but our players seem to choke - I think we’ve also had 2 or 3 goals cancelled because of offside which is our lads not being aware of that last line. I personally think for MOST games we have been set up really well and usually generate a really high XG. That for me is evidence that Farke’s tactics on the whole are working. But when we have almost 20 shots at goal, like last night, and only 4 are on target (if I remember rightly 3 of those went straight down the middle) it’s just not good enough from the players on the pitch. So there’s things that need to improve across the board, and I do think it’s important to acknowledge that actually Leeds have had a fair share of bad luck compared to the top 4 or 5 teams so far - hopefully that will balance out - but we were robbed of a win at Pompey hitting the woodwork 4 times. The unlucky bounce at Sunderland took that fantastic potential win from us, and Burnley we conceded one chance because of a slip and then they scored (we absolutely battered them all game and their keeper was immense). And I don’t want there to be any excuses, but these are all pretty big instances of bad luck, and if we won both Pompey and Sunderland at least then we’d be ahead of Sheffield on 46 points, and our away form would be very close to Sheff U if we won at Sunderland. So yes. Away form not great and lots to work on, but I think when you consider all the factors, it’s not a disaster and we have lots to be excited about with this team. MOT
3 things: 1) If we don’t replace Meslier in Jan we won’t finish top 2. 2) Bamford should not even be a bench option. 3) After yet another copycat ineffective away performance Farke must change his thinking on how we set up and play
Home teams stand their ground, and battle. It seems you don't like that smoke. The Elland Road factor is a key in how you overrun teams at home, and how opposition set up too, but it doesn't translate on the road. I don't like digging out individuals as its a team effort, but the keeper always has a mistake in him. Thanks for joining the Ramble yesterday.
Main reason we are not top of league is we have missed too many chances ..that other teams are converting. We are all frustrated that we don’t win every game because in general we are by far the best attacking side in the division.which to be fair is mostly down to Farke. Nobody wins every match … but boy it’s frustrating
Morning Conor.very balanced view.i do think that point will come in handy there is no doubt we have to improve away do think sheffield will slip up up on the road nature of the beast this league going up is all that matters
Nothing wrong with manager, we just carnt put our chances away, we need an out and out goalscorer, we get the chances but don’t put them away, you don’t score you lose or draw, simples. Oh and bamford should never be picked before Joseph
Stick with Farke and it is the play offs. We are definitely due a win in the play offs so it could still be OK but this squad should be winning the league
Home or away, High tempo from the start and we're good...Slow tempo from the start and we're bad.. why not play every game high tempo until we're in front and maintain it with the quality on the bench !
Any team knows, get any shot in from anywhere; if it’s on target then they have a chance. Above anything else, we need a keeper; for too many years now, we need a keeper.
I think Farke was responsible for us dropping three points but then again he was also responsible for us picking up a point. The only impact the first round of subs had was that Preston looked even better. The second round of subs made the difference. If we’d played for five more minutes we would have won. If Farke had brought the subs on at half time we would have won. Yes it was his fault that we didn’t win but it’s also his “fault” that we’re second in the table and the team most people fear. We can’t do better than Farke so learn to live with his mistakes. Meslier has made some simple errors so far but he will improve. He has the basics and he’s a good goalie. His distribution is the worst part of his game but should be an easy fix. Bamford is too old and too slow. He’s a player that thrives on confidence and currently he has none. I think it’s time for him to move on.
All Leeds fans know inside 5mins if we’re going to have a bad day… except our management! The goal is symptomatic of our away issues. We had a decent break, Aaronson in attacking position dropped the shoulder took four five passes allowed oppo to regroup, we went backwards, lost ball and suddenly it’s a break with our defenders stuck in their half. This is coaching 101!!! Please don’t do it again 🙏
My problem with Farke is that with a squad that is one of the best in the Championship he still can’t change the plan. If he got us to the Prem he won’t have the best squad or anywhere near, so how can he hope to survive there.
I did not learn anything , they simply are not there , for me it's simply down to wanting to win , have they got the desire to really want the prem leauge I think not . Jmo .
Defend this draw all you like, but we are going to blow this season again if we don’t sort this out. We can’t pull away because of the inconsistent results, if there’s only a couple of points between the teams at the end of the season as sure as shit we’ll blow it, it’s simply not good enough..
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result....At Stoke City....Rothwell at 10.....Ampadu in midfield.....Joseph up front........Alex Cairns instead of Meslier....start Ramaswami and Solomon..........
Morning. Christenings yes. Optimistic yes. Outlook: It’s not the road behind you, with all its twists and turns that define you, rather, that makes the future and destiny of the road ahead. As long as we keep our form and don’t have too many injuries we’ll be in the premiership. Myself yesterday facing a 5 at the back formation, I’d have put wingers on to take them out wide leaving the back post area free to attack. Personally, and it’s not just me an internet gob shit , or people doing pod casts or tv coverage presenters at odds with with this on that reffing: the people that do the coverage and video editing, they say there’s no Var. That’s true at the ground. When the makers, who do coverage for a living who are none partisan, were all saying…that was a red card on their Captain. They were watching it frame by frame: Just shows that Reffing standards need to change. Let’s Hope that was Leeds hand of God moment and improve our away form. Saying that I’m confident that we can and should get 3 wins on the bounce next 3 games. Oldham, Stoke and Derby. Heads up. Mot. Keeping an eye on Sheffield games, they think Leeds will drop back in points towards the end of the season. I think Farke won’t let that happen. We robbed yesterday.
Seriously think Leeds fans are actually mentally challenged 😂 people calling for Farkes head we are literally 2nd in the league! his recruitment with tanaka, Rothwell, ramazani ect has been good aswell everyone just needs to calm down a point is really frustrating but the referee had a massive influence on the result. MOT
And their manager has schooled ours 3 times in a row and we can see that our manager doesn't really seem to adapt, change or take things in. Thats a big worry that game and the 2 away games against passion merchant teams
said before, our success is due to the recruitment team. Farke has added very little, some might say he has detracted from it. Could my old auntie manage this team better? probably.
he has 5 goals already and should be in double figures with the chances he creates or the positions he gets into , composure is his biggest issue not how physical he is ,it simply doesn't matter
@ yes he scored 5 goals already Aaronson is not good enough he is not an attacking midfielder number 10 . Farke trying to to use Aaronson like the way he had Emiliano Buendía at Norwich city and Aaronson is not even near Emiliano Buendía standard .
@@elmimohamedelmi That is just nonsense he is an attacking midfielder, we don't need someone as good as buendia we are in the championship and aaronson is more than good enough, Farke tactics and style of play is the problem not personel
@ majority of Leeds United fans would not a gree with your comments towards Aaronson . Go and watch Leeds Rhinos instead . You don’t know about football 😃🥂
This is where I'm at. We clearly need a better keeper and a better manager. The manager can't cope away from home in the lower leagues so imagine what we'll be if he does somehow get us promoted. We won't get a new keeper under this manager either. He's made him his vice captain and we all know he won't swallow his pride on that one. In his mind he'd rather be right and Leeds lose than the other way about. Surely the 49ers have to be thinking more long term with this whole thing. What are we trying to build with this bluffer in charge?
Every team is different.....doing exactly the same thing game in game out againt different teams and players eventually is going not work, that's on the manager,although I would change anything mid season....i think he needs to go at the end regardless.
It's always the same week in week out, it's always the same team and substitutions too late. We need to mix it up in away games to bring the winning mentality back. You cannot play the same team all the time there are too many games.
We must improve away, we said it after Millwall, after Blackburn, and now Preston, but we are NOT improving results away. We cant rely on our home form alone because at some point we will drop points.
Our away form will definitely cost us promotion. Burnley have just beaten Norwich. We can't rely on our home form to go up. It will dip at some time and if we can't improve our away form we are toast.
We don't have a good enough replacement plus think how many easy goal opportunities have been messed up by the rest of the team which would also have cost us points.
Nothing wrong with the manager at all. Faults are 1.. Goalkeeper not good enough 2.. players that should score are not 3.. Bamford needs to go 4.. We need a striker like Chapman
We must start pulling away… Our away form has to improve for this to happen! We don’t do playoffs, we know that! Just seems other teams know how we’re going to set up! Change in our style of play needs to happen.
Farke is not up to the job. The board have backed him amazingly well. I think any mediocre manager could piss this league with that squad. I’m tired of his lack of plan B. Why bring Bamford on (he’s done) and don’t even get me started on Meslier. Woeful. Our home form is amazing. But, we’re gonna fall short again if you ask me. You’ve got to be improve the away form to gain automatic promotion.
@ I think most clubs in this league could only dream of having our squad. We have the best squad in the Championship hands down and should be doing far better with what we have. It’s embarrassing the talent we have available on the bench. It’s the tactics that are wrong.
Farke is the issue and has been the issue since he arrived! We could easily get a manager to get us out of this league, however we won’t. Farke is in until the end of the season no matter what.
Whoever thinks going back to Ampadu and Joseph is answer are by crazy. Statistically, Leeds is better without them. The current attacking style is lacking. Too many focused on meaningless possession. I expect to see Tanaka and Rothwell taking on players. That frees up Gnonto, Aaronson, James to get into more one on ones and draw other defenders to them and leaving others open for quality scoring chances.
It’s Farke that is the issue yes, but there is another issue that is a huge factor in these lost points and that is messlier, he’s totally not good enough never has been and never will be.I’m concerned that with this away form we may miss out again, so things got to change, Farke is going to have to find a way to beat these teams, if he can’t then he needs to get out.
I think FARKE should have been let go at the end of last season. Farkeball doesn’t work and hasn’t worked since Norwich back in the day. It didn’t work at all in the premier league and Norwich quickly relegated. The same patter of last season is happening again and even the same points as last season. FARKE cannot get through an organised defence so any pub team can take points off us. Yes pundits and many Leeds fans think FARKE is the dogz but hoping everything works out is too much of a gamble. We saw the wheels come off last time going from top to third and finishing 4th in real terms. The play is the same and everyone knows we have the best squad and should be way ahead but we are losing too many points yet again. Hoping I’m wrong but…..
I agree with a lot of the points u make but 2 in league and the disruption turmoil of replacing farke will not increase our chances of going up wot do fans want us t b 20 points clear of blades fans need t get real aint happening players not as good as made out.
@@jbmb194 I agree but we should have been where Leicester and Ipswich were last season in a vastly inferior league this season - we cannot win every game but look at the points we have thrown away. If we were getting played off the park then you hold your hands up I haven't seen that yet - just stupid mistakes and baffling away performances.
we beat arguably one of the best teams in the league in Middlesbrough, why change the line up for next game.......We learned Farke is incompetent, Meslier cost us points again and Bamford doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the first team.
You could bring in a league 1 manager and we would pick up more away points and still win every home game with this team whats so good about Farke? He got done tactically be Paul Heckingbottom
Farke needs to be more flexible in personnel he picks for away games and adjust to teams. We have so much talent compared to other teams. That’s why it is so frustrating. Plus largie and Joseph needs to start away from home. Need to be dynamic and quick away from home.
Are you for getting something we was very lucky to get this point if it had no been for own goal we would have been 5 points behind. We will not get 10 wins on a bounce not with the away form. Only thing il say is we do deserve this luck because weve handed loads of teams free points so it was our turn to get luck but our away form as to improve
We are far too soft as a team, we just don’t front up. If we keep playing Arronson it’s too easy for teams to counter attack. IMHO we need Ethan back alongside Ao and then Rothwell (or a new signing at 10)
Ok we might lose at home but our players have to fo better gnoto isn't Summerville yet he is constantly trying to take on the whole defense instead of passing then he can't finish.
What you thinking people?
The Hand of God moment yesterday.
Terrible coaching , starting with piroe doesn't defend, bamford a disaster, Aaronson to many mistakes , last game with youngster up front do chase and defend , bad coach
I agree that it would be good if farke could take some responsibility, I am really good at making excuses as well as farke and im trying to better myself for real.
Maybe im a bit more mature than farke on that point....
As a Sunderland fan. Leeds are the best team in the league by far when they play at their best. I’ve got no doubt that you will be in and around automatics at the end of the season. I think you’s put too much pressure on yourselves to be honest. It’s a hard league. Good luck for the rest of the season!
Thanks mate - I’m still really positive but I think a lot of fans are just really worried what would happen if we didn’t go up this time. We have a lot of bad memories that haunt us, so I think it’s more of a panic that things could get even worse if it doesn’t happen this time.
You got a great comeback yesterday, I think you’ll definitely be up there too. Sunderland and Leeds both sleeping giants
Agree mate, we don't expect prime Barca but away from home versus home is like chalk and cheese and its baffling. We also are doing the same as last season which is why a lot of us are worried as our manager doesn't seem to be learning anything and then we see the GK (who is substandard) that he thinks is the 'best in league' and then that striker coming on - its mind boggling what he does.
You’s are a very good team. What will be will be won’t it. Don’t lose hope as long as you keep supporting the team you love that’s all that matters isn’t it. I don’t actually care if we(Sunderland) go up this season. Don’t get me wrong it would be nice I would love the derby days against Newcastle to be back but I think we would just come straight back down. I’m just enjoying the fact that we are competing and playing some decent football in the majority of the games and that is good to see. I think the Premier League isn’t all it’s cracked out to be nowadays to be honest. Clubs are turning into tourist attractions and they’re pricing allot of loyal fans out and they don’t realise it. That league has been ruined by money it’s just one big enterprise. The championship is much more enjoyable to watch even with the shit refs!😂
Unfortunately for us 'in and around the automatics' at the end isn't good enough as we are regular bottlers. That song everyone sings 'Leeds are falling apart again ' is based on years of bottling it when it counts
@@simapark unfortunately that’s part and parcel of competitive football don’t put your expectations too high. The song is being sung by away fans because you as a club have let yourself get in that position of entitlement but when you are confident you play that good football you sing that back that’s when you know you are winning really. Just enjoy it I don’t know any other fans in England singing disrespects back like Leeds are! Top fans!!
Conor
All we need is first a keeper
Second attacking midfielder
And third a proper striker
Its so so simple
I really feel like yesterday’s result is on Meslier. He got both hands on the ball and it still went in. That’s probably 4 or 5 goals this year he should have saved. Unfortunately, we weren’t up 3 Nil. Nope these errors cost points. We need an upgrade badly.
He never seems to save anything at his near post
You try ad save that shot!
Very difficult!
3 things learned. 1. Farke isn’t good enough. 2. Meslier isn’t good enough. 3. Bamford isn’t good enough!
Farke sets the team up, yes, but he can't control what the players do once they cross the white line!
@ strange it was the exact opposite for Marsch……
Home forms great at moment but they’ll come a time that we’ll slip up ,and then if you lose the next away game 0points or just 1 out of 6 ,
@@helenwalker92what about his infuriating lack of flexibility once things are not going well (which was obvious about 5 minutes in today). His in game management is laughably bad
@@kipa170 No point 1, 2 and 3 are still correct and he had a cheat code in Raphinha - he was utterly incompetent and carried by our best player in decades.
Not sure why is it always on Farke when we lose/draw and it’s not on Farke when we win? Are the players ever responsible for a poor performance? There were lots of wayward passes, chances missed, we’re on top for most of the team stats in league, away from we’re 8th, we’re one win from top. Farke has the highest average points per game in Leeds history. Has everyone just got on board since Farke started?
Because he's the manager ! He picks the underperforming players! He didn't deliver last season and it' looks like he's gunna struggle to do it this season too
Totally agree
Three things 1 Meslier has cost us at least 5 points so far 2 Bamford is awful 3 Farke picks the first two.
Still can’t believe Bamford tried to be so smart, he just had to tap it it… just get rid of him come January
It’s was embarrassing! Agree he needs to leave. I like the lad but he’s not playing and missing chances like that when he does.
Bamford is just trying to prove a point tryner be smug he could not score a own goal or if it bounced off his arse would still miss with no keeper he's just pure pure woeful
Who will want him? Genuine question?
@@GargantuanDthat’s the problem , maybe a mid table side will take him but he won’t leave as he knows he’ll not ever get better wages elsewhere , he had a one season wonder and the club signed a long term deal with him crazy stuff . He even had worse miss ratio in all leagues the year Leeds stonked the league
@@coner4675 Yep, something that people forget - the 2 season in the Championship with Bielsa it drove me daft the amount of chances he would get on a plate. We created and missed more back then - albeit the football was better 9 times out of 10 - with an inferior squad, lets not forget
Farke's away performances have also been well off it, after a great game against Middlesbrough he drops Jospeh for Piroe, he puts Byram at LB and drops Wober, he brings Bamford on for half an hour, I mean these are serious questions somebody needs to be putting on the manager I feel like we need answers
Wober choice was especially baffling after how well he played in the last game.
I think Wober was carrying an injury and was doubtful to play in fairness on that one. But absolutely he should have started Joseph
Greetings from a Canadian in Oz. Realistically, our away form has to improve in order to secure automatic promotion. We need to be active in the January window and bring in at least one real quality player that adds goals/assists. Failure to strengthen the squad could be very costly, as I suspect our competition will look to add.
Not a huge Farke fan but changing a manager when he’s sat in the automatic positions would be insane! Brum changed theirs when they were in a good place and look what happened to them!
1. If Leeds' away form doesn't improve they won't go up. 2. Leeds carry very little aerial threat from set pieces or at all. 3. A genuine alternative to Meslier is required.
3 things we have learnt. 1 We need a goalkeeper 2. We need a 9 3. We still need a goalkeeper
True,true,true
Need a 10 ~ Aaronson is only OK & missing a few times against stubborn defensive sides
Swap 3 for a proper number 10
Preston played a version of a Low Block. They played to absorb our attacks, falsely giving the impression they were playing a Low Block where their plan was to make us commit players forward and hit us on a counter attack, They kept Osmajic up top for an outlet, where other teams would be 11 behind the ball. They counter really quickly and it seems our offensive players were slow to react to the counter, expecting Struik or Rodon to mop up, but they didnt.
Once they scored though, they pretty much implemented a low block mentality, it was difficult to break down especially with Piroe up top, but once Bamford came on and later Joseph, Prestons defense had to defend better. We committed our attacking players to taking their defenders on, Ramazani tried, Solomon had success where Brendan and Willy kept everything in front of them. This tells me Brendan and Willy are not the creative players when up against Low Blocks, but they're limited by the number 9 being a nuisance to the defense.... no nuisance no effect.... Its clear, Piroe needs to be dropped against Low Block likely teams and put Solomon and Ramazani on, players who will attack the defence, forcing them to make challenges, make tackles and often they get them wrong, and we get set pieces around their box, which we can put them under more pressure.
If I can see this, I don't understand why Farke cannot.
I hear this "We've got to improve" but the man responsible for said improvement has continually proved he is utterly incapable of resolving this.
A better more astute tactically nous coach & we absolutely stroll this league.
Farke is the problem end of...
It's simple get a manager that reacts to what is going on, on the pitch. Farke doesn't 😢
The key these days is not so much about getting promoted but staying promoted.
My three things:
1. Why are we criticising a manager who has us in 2nd place
2. Sheffield U don't have the added pressure of being Leeds
3. We are not a fanbase that would tolerate a counter-attacking style, so we are susceptible to counter-attacking teams in my humble opinion
To me it appears Farke goes for the win at home, away he sends the players out to keep the ball and hopefully not concede. If we get the draw that feeds into his 2 points a game plan, if we get the win it's a bonus. Yesterday Piroe was running the back line looking for space in the first 20 but we turned and went back to the centre backs instead of taking a chance and trying to feed him. That has to be the managers instructions.
Meslier aside (we all feel the same) I felt we slowed down too often when we could have attacked quickly, Aaronson guilty a lot but not the only one .Possession is great but not if you are not doing anything with it. It was only when its was shit or bust in that last 10 mins that we saw what we could be doing from kick off.
The club ubderinvested in key positions and did not give the manager the cam required for his system to work properly. The manager is too rigid tactically and makes substitutions too late. Finally away from home we really need to play Ramazani as he scares the pants off any defence and actually hits the target when he shoots
Farke again in game management abysmal. Why keep playing Bamford. Why keep picking meslier. Why do we start these away games the same. Sheffield United would have won that game and that's why Sheffield United will win this league.
Agree with all 3 points , especially Farker will maybe get us to playoffs if we are lucky and we know what Leeds do in playoffs, do hope I'm wrong.
I’m no Farke fan & whatever happens, come the end of the season, he should go but if we had a half decent keeper in goal, yesterday, their goal would have been saved.
Meslier is the problem. He is going to cost us a lot of points this season.
Is anybody telling me that Darlo would do a worse job?
Right now, I’m more Meslier out than Farke out.
We have to go away to our top 2 rivals, if away form doesn't improve we will be giving them both 3 points head start. The tone is wrong at the start of away games, we don't get on the front foot from the off, instead we faff around on the half way line and lose any early momentum. We need to attack from the off and let the shackles off . Our tactics always give the opposition a chance and as we know, they only need one with Mes in goal.
I blame both the manager and the players for our away performances. Simply not good enough.
1. We are still at the mercy or away form
2. Manger is trying but my god more needed
3. Instead
If gets promoted is NOWHERE near enough and that’s what scares me
Sam playing at left back inhibits our attack on that side, Schmit needs to be given a chance. Brendan is not the answer at 10. Fantastic energy to press but rarely wins the ball back and has no creativity.
Ilan is a bag of nerves whenever the ball enters our box. He doesn't have the self confidence to save shots.
The season is similar from our point of view , whats different is we dont have 2 teams above us 10 points clear.
Thank you CONOR 👍👌
Unfortunately I've resorted to the fact that I can see us getting to the playoffs & then we all know what happens then 😢😥
Terrible, we should be blowing teams away home & away with the players we've got 😫😩
This season I've noticed we're missing the type of goals that SUMMERVILLE & GNONTO were scoring from the left & right, how many of those type of goals have we seen this season?
No one cutting in from the left or right & shooting at the far post across or curling in the top corner 😩😫
A staple of our goals were being scored like this home & away 😫😩🙏
My thinking at the moment is that yes Farke absolutely has to adapt and improve in some areas of his game. His starting 11 wasn’t right, but his subs were earlier and they did work, saving us a point. He needs to work on faster build up plays in my opinion, we are far too static and the players don’t often keep moving so we become a bit stagnant.
Having said that - I think my biggest gripe so far has been the chances wasted, by players. Look, most of them have been brilliant for us most of the time. But there have been TOO many blunders already.
Aaronson has missed at least three sitters that come to mind, including last night. Bamford missed the easy tap in, DJ and Gnonto have both been wasteful in games, Joseph missed the first minute chance against Burnley and a couple of others, and then we have Meslier who has probably cost us about 5 points already.
Farke can only do so much - even against low block teams, even against teams that come to hack us down, we still create AMPLE opportunity to score, but our players seem to choke - I think we’ve also had 2 or 3 goals cancelled because of offside which is our lads not being aware of that last line.
I personally think for MOST games we have been set up really well and usually generate a really high XG. That for me is evidence that Farke’s tactics on the whole are working. But when we have almost 20 shots at goal, like last night, and only 4 are on target (if I remember rightly 3 of those went straight down the middle) it’s just not good enough from the players on the pitch.
So there’s things that need to improve across the board, and I do think it’s important to acknowledge that actually Leeds have had a fair share of bad luck compared to the top 4 or 5 teams so far - hopefully that will balance out - but we were robbed of a win at Pompey hitting the woodwork 4 times. The unlucky bounce at Sunderland took that fantastic potential win from us, and Burnley we conceded one chance because of a slip and then they scored (we absolutely battered them all game and their keeper was immense). And I don’t want there to be any excuses, but these are all pretty big instances of bad luck, and if we won both Pompey and Sunderland at least then we’d be ahead of Sheffield on 46 points, and our away form would be very close to Sheff U if we won at Sunderland.
So yes. Away form not great and lots to work on, but I think when you consider all the factors, it’s not a disaster and we have lots to be excited about with this team. MOT
3 things: 1) If we don’t replace Meslier in Jan we won’t finish top 2. 2) Bamford should not even be a bench option. 3) After yet another copycat ineffective away performance Farke must change his thinking on how we set up and play
1/ Need a number 10 2/ Need a GK 3/ Need a striker option now - so 1 and 2 were from start of season and we add in 3 now.
Home teams stand their ground, and battle. It seems you don't like that smoke.
The Elland Road factor is a key in how you overrun teams at home, and how opposition set up too, but it doesn't translate on the road.
I don't like digging out individuals as its a team effort, but the keeper always has a mistake in him.
Thanks for joining the Ramble yesterday.
Main reason we are not top of league is we have missed too many chances ..that other teams are converting. We are all frustrated that we don’t win every game because in general we are by far the best attacking side in the division.which to be fair is mostly down to Farke. Nobody wins every match … but boy it’s frustrating
Morning Conor.very balanced view.i do think that point will come in handy there is no doubt we have to improve away do think sheffield will slip up up on the road nature of the beast this league going up is all that matters
Will they ? They seem mentally stronger than us.
I think they will Tanya they have tough games coming up if they don't IL hold me hands up too you
When we went up we were confident - this is still shaky - we are again hit and miss bag is not good
Nothing wrong with manager, we just carnt put our chances away, we need an out and out goalscorer, we get the chances but don’t put them away, you don’t score you lose or draw, simples. Oh and bamford should never be picked before Joseph
Stick with Farke and it is the play offs. We are definitely due a win in the play offs so it could still be OK but this squad should be winning the league
Home or away, High tempo from the start and we're good...Slow tempo from the start and we're bad.. why not play every game high tempo until we're in front and maintain it with the quality on the bench !
my three take aways were :
1 : Farke is tactically inept
2 : Farke prefers Bamford over Joseph
3 : Aaronsen and Piroe cant keep starting in away games
Any team knows, get any shot in from anywhere; if it’s on target then they have a chance. Above anything else, we need a keeper; for too many years now, we need a keeper.
I think Farke was responsible for us dropping three points but then again he was also responsible for us picking up a point. The only impact the first round of subs had was that Preston looked even better. The second round of subs made the difference. If we’d played for five more minutes we would have won. If Farke had brought the subs on at half time we would have won. Yes it was his fault that we didn’t win but it’s also his “fault” that we’re second in the table and the team most people fear. We can’t do better than Farke so learn to live with his mistakes. Meslier has made some simple errors so far but he will improve. He has the basics and he’s a good goalie. His distribution is the worst part of his game but should be an easy fix. Bamford is too old and too slow. He’s a player that thrives on confidence and currently he has none. I think it’s time for him to move on.
All Leeds fans know inside 5mins if we’re going to have a bad day… except our management!
The goal is symptomatic of our away issues. We had a decent break, Aaronson in attacking position dropped the shoulder took four five passes allowed oppo to regroup, we went backwards, lost ball and suddenly it’s a break with our defenders stuck in their half. This is coaching 101!!! Please don’t do it again 🙏
My problem with Farke is that with a squad that is one of the best in the Championship he still can’t change the plan.
If he got us to the Prem he won’t have the best squad or anywhere near, so how can he hope to survive there.
I did not learn anything , they simply are not there , for me it's simply down to wanting to win , have they got the desire to really want the prem leauge
I think not .
Jmo .
He underachieved with last years team/squad, and he's doing exactly the same again, performances/substitutions, etc, needs to go!!
Defend this draw all you like, but we are going to blow this season again if we don’t sort this out. We can’t pull away because of the inconsistent results, if there’s only a couple of points between the teams at the end of the season as sure as shit we’ll blow it, it’s simply not good enough..
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result....At Stoke City....Rothwell at 10.....Ampadu in midfield.....Joseph up front........Alex Cairns instead of Meslier....start Ramaswami and Solomon..........
Morning. Christenings yes. Optimistic yes. Outlook: It’s not the road behind you, with all its twists and turns that define you, rather, that makes the future and destiny of the road ahead.
As long as we keep our form and don’t have too many injuries we’ll be in the premiership.
Myself yesterday facing a 5 at the back formation, I’d have put wingers on to take them out wide leaving the back post area free to attack.
Personally, and it’s not just me an internet gob shit , or people doing pod casts or tv coverage presenters at odds with with this on that reffing: the people that do the coverage and video editing, they say there’s no Var. That’s true at the ground. When the makers, who do coverage for a living who are none partisan, were all saying…that was a red card on their Captain. They were watching it frame by frame: Just shows that Reffing standards need to change.
Let’s Hope that was Leeds hand of God moment and improve our away form.
Saying that I’m confident that we can and should get 3 wins on the bounce next 3 games. Oldham, Stoke and Derby.
Heads up. Mot. Keeping an eye on Sheffield games, they think Leeds will drop back in points towards the end of the season. I think Farke won’t let that happen.
We robbed yesterday.
Seriously think Leeds fans are actually mentally challenged 😂 people calling for Farkes head we are literally 2nd in the league! his recruitment with tanaka, Rothwell, ramazani ect has been good aswell everyone just needs to calm down a point is really frustrating but the referee had a massive influence on the result. MOT
He didn't want Tanaka
Blackburn on a crazy run...
And their manager has schooled ours 3 times in a row and we can see that our manager doesn't really seem to adapt, change or take things in. Thats a big worry that game and the 2 away games against passion merchant teams
@@Leeds71 Imagine Blackburn doing an Ipswich...
Rothwell not taking corners for a start
said before, our success is due to the recruitment team. Farke has added very little, some might say he has detracted from it. Could my old auntie manage this team better? probably.
Are those bells in the background announcing Bielsa is back in the UK?
The three things we learned Leeds need a striker a goalkeeper and a manager with tactical awareness
Im just wondering 🤔 with Farke still playing Aaronson not technically nor physically strong for the championship .
he has 5 goals already and should be in double figures with the chances he creates or the positions he gets into , composure is his biggest issue not how physical he is ,it simply doesn't matter
@ yes he scored 5 goals already Aaronson is not good enough he is not an attacking midfielder number 10 .
Farke trying to to use Aaronson like the way he had Emiliano Buendía at Norwich city and Aaronson is not even near Emiliano Buendía standard .
@@elmimohamedelmi That is just nonsense he is an attacking midfielder, we don't need someone as good as buendia we are in the championship and aaronson is more than good enough, Farke tactics and style of play is the problem not personel
@ majority of Leeds United fans would not a gree with your comments towards Aaronson .
Go and watch Leeds Rhinos instead .
You don’t know about football 😃🥂
Stop with the b.s. narrative against Aaronson. It's the lack of a clinical striker that's letting the team down.
This is where I'm at. We clearly need a better keeper and a better manager. The manager can't cope away from home in the lower leagues so imagine what we'll be if he does somehow get us promoted. We won't get a new keeper under this manager either. He's made him his vice captain and we all know he won't swallow his pride on that one. In his mind he'd rather be right and Leeds lose than the other way about. Surely the 49ers have to be thinking more long term with this whole thing. What are we trying to build with this bluffer in charge?
The intransigence of Daniel is astounding ,he seems lost ,yes really. 😮
Every team is different.....doing exactly the same thing game in game out againt different teams and players eventually is going not work, that's on the manager,although I would change anything mid season....i think he needs to go at the end regardless.
Definitely not incisive enough. Sometimes Leeds take too long passing the ball and allows the opposition to regain their defensive shape
Dead right Gerard ,its that slow boring back and forth ball is woeful. 😮
It's always the same week in week out, it's always the same team and substitutions too late. We need to mix it up in away games to bring the winning mentality back. You cannot play the same team all the time there are too many games.
Excellent view point kjc728😮
Did the away end look like they've turned on Farke?
If only everyone had the amazing gift of hindsight you have.
Oxford have just sacked their manager so that’s turned that game into an unknown.
Conor, what has happened to Meslier, he was good 2 years ago, do we have a different goalkeeper coach??
It’s Mesliers give away again… tired players … we struggle away on the 3rd game in a week….
Rotation needs to be better! ⚔️⚔️
So right Andrew ,Farke is driving his favs into the ground ,fact.😮
We must improve away, we said it after Millwall, after Blackburn, and now Preston, but we are NOT improving results away. We cant rely on our home form alone because at some point we will drop points.
Our away form will definitely cost us promotion. Burnley have just beaten Norwich. We can't rely on our home form to go up. It will dip at some time and if we can't improve our away form we are toast.
Just drop the goal keeper… he will cost us promotion, he’s cost us 6-7points already. I can’t believe Farke can’t see it?
We don't have a good enough replacement plus think how many easy goal opportunities have been messed up by the rest of the team which would also have cost us points.
Nothing wrong with the manager at all. Faults are 1.. Goalkeeper not good enough 2.. players that should score are not 3.. Bamford needs to go 4.. We need a striker like Chapman
We must start pulling away… Our away form has to improve for this to happen! We don’t do playoffs, we know that! Just seems other teams know how we’re going to set up! Change in our style of play needs to happen.
Farke is not up to the job. The board have backed him amazingly well. I think any mediocre manager could piss this league with that squad. I’m tired of his lack of plan B. Why bring Bamford on (he’s done) and don’t even get me started on Meslier. Woeful. Our home form is amazing. But, we’re gonna fall short again if you ask me. You’ve got to be improve the away form to gain automatic promotion.
I’m Farke out too, but I’m Not sure the board have backed him ‘amazingly well’. I think there transfer activity has been mediocre thus far
@ I think most clubs in this league could only dream of having our squad. We have the best squad in the Championship hands down and should be doing far better with what we have. It’s embarrassing the talent we have available on the bench. It’s the tactics that are wrong.
Farke is the issue and has been the issue since he arrived! We could easily get a manager to get us out of this league, however we won’t. Farke is in until the end of the season no matter what.
another idiot who does nt see what farke has done since arriving
Who
@@jbmb194 Moyes.
@@jbmb194 I mean, literally any manager could get promoted with this squad.
The bells the bells 🔔
Whoever thinks going back to Ampadu and Joseph is answer are by crazy. Statistically, Leeds is better without them. The current attacking style is lacking. Too many focused on meaningless possession. I expect to see Tanaka and Rothwell taking on players. That frees up Gnonto, Aaronson, James to get into more one on ones and draw other defenders to them and leaving others open for quality scoring chances.
get rid of Meslier he is a liability, he has one good game and six bad ones.
Playing side to side then back the side to side in the first half
Boring to watch for the fans ,fact.😮
We need a frickkin GOALKEEPER!!!!!!!!
I would play guilavoghi against slow physical sides
I've had enough of Farke and Meslier want both gone. Time for Darlow in goal in until January and then sort out a keeper.
It’s Farke that is the issue yes, but there is another issue that is a huge factor in these lost points and that is messlier, he’s totally not good enough never has been and never will be.I’m concerned that with this away form we may miss out again, so things got to change, Farke is going to have to find a way to beat these teams, if he can’t then he needs to get out.
I think FARKE should have been let go at the end of last season. Farkeball doesn’t work and hasn’t worked since Norwich back in the day. It didn’t work at all in the premier league and Norwich quickly relegated. The same patter of last season is happening again and even the same points as last season. FARKE cannot get through an organised defence so any pub team can take points off us. Yes pundits and many Leeds fans think FARKE is the dogz but hoping everything works out is too much of a gamble. We saw the wheels come off last time going from top to third and finishing 4th in real terms. The play is the same and everyone knows we have the best squad and should be way ahead but we are losing too many points yet again. Hoping I’m wrong but…..
I agree with a lot of the points u make but 2 in league and the disruption turmoil of replacing farke will not increase our chances of going up wot do fans want us t b 20 points clear of blades fans need t get real aint happening players not as good as made out.
@@jbmb194 I agree but we should have been where Leicester and Ipswich were last season in a vastly inferior league this season - we cannot win every game but look at the points we have thrown away. If we were getting played off the park then you hold your hands up I haven't seen that yet - just stupid mistakes and baffling away performances.
Need a different keeper
Someone else at number 10
Another striker incoming.
It's all about 27 Jan to 1st March results that make or break us
we beat arguably one of the best teams in the league in Middlesbrough, why change the line up for next game.......We learned Farke is incompetent, Meslier cost us points again and Bamford doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the first team.
Aiming for 2nd place runs the risk of finishing in 3rd. We should be aiming to knock Sheff Utd off top spot.
What we need is to calm down keep getting two points per game well be fine
Do they travel to away games on the day ? if so change it ?
We will not go up when our goalkeeper keeps mucking up
You could bring in a league 1 manager and we would pick up more away points and still win every home game with this team whats so good about Farke? He got done tactically be Paul Heckingbottom
Farke needs to be more flexible in personnel he picks for away games and adjust to teams. We have so much talent compared to other teams. That’s why it is so frustrating. Plus largie and Joseph needs to start away from home. Need to be dynamic and quick away from home.
3 key takeaways, Farke, Piroe and Aaronson.
Are you for getting something we was very lucky to get this point if it had no been for own goal we would have been 5 points behind. We will not get 10 wins on a bounce not with the away form. Only thing il say is we do deserve this luck because weve handed loads of teams free points so it was our turn to get luck but our away form as to improve
Farke's clueless x 3
still averaging 2nts a game so not worried long way to go evey one going to have blips
We are far too soft as a team, we just don’t front up. If we keep playing Arronson it’s too easy for teams to counter attack.
IMHO we need Ethan back alongside Ao and then Rothwell (or a new signing at 10)
2nd in the league dont panic
Ok we might lose at home but our players have to fo better gnoto isn't Summerville yet he is constantly trying to take on the whole defense instead of passing then he can't finish.
Same old story we are still relying on other teams to win or loose
Christenings are very normal for people that want to go to heaven 😊