Yeah, you wonder how anyone would actually want to be friends let alone married to George...Jason Alexander played him so well that you come so close to liking him until you realize he really is a horrible person.
@@mattm7798 never could quite liking Jason Alexander’s spiteful assaulting character in Pretty Woman smacking Julia Roberts around so George could not be anyone I’d find favorable.
@@robertweir5313 that's a really stupid reason to dislike George Castanza, because you didn't like the character he played in Pretty Woman. You my friend sound like a simp.
@@Christobanistan : Re-read the OP's sentiment about a title. Re-read me pointing out another title that is the same that he might like and is also similar to the point. I'll schedule a short bus stop for your house.
What’s even more abnormal are the replies to this comment. Main 4 are horrible people and are the catalysts to many problems. People really bend over backwards to ignore this or downplay this when it’s pointed out.
You've got a point there. The store knew the brand was discontinued, and rather than investigate WHY, they instead opted to just sell the envelopes anyway.
You're reading way too much into this. George has always been a cheap man, and any other cheap man would have done the same thing in any other sitcom when they say "the most expensive ones are in the front". It is just a simple joke that has been done many times before.
4:30 The way George says yeah in response to Jerry saying he’s no longer getting married gets me every time. “Restrained jubilation” is 100% accurate lmao.
Only Seinfeld could get away with something like this and have the characters being nonchalant and more worried about a pact. When the person who caused the death said welp let's get some coffee ☠️☠️💀💀
It’s always sunny’s The Gang is much worse than the seinfeld’s “gang (lol)” but at least they didn’t have a dead weight unfunny character like jerry seinfeld.
In retrospect...in spite of Jason Alexander's comments about Susan being killed off for "incompatibility" or whatever, I'm not sure how this storyline could have ended in any other way. They weren't going to marry off George or promote Heidi Swedberg (or anybody else) to regular, and there was no way for the wedding to be called off the way the entire season had been written. Death was the only way out.
I think they could have had them get married - and then shortly after the wedding things fall apart so we would watch George deal with divorce (alimony, divorce lawyers), esp. if George had some master plan to make it her fault (and the plan backfire spectacularly).
Have them get married, and then the marriage has to be invalidated because George forgot he married someone years ago to get a discount on an airline ticket.
Should have released this yesterday! Easily the darkest moment, yet oddly funny. The beauty about this joke it is that George almost got the ritches had he actually go though with the wedding, but NOPE!!!! His pettiness, cowardness, and cheapness got the best of him and now he's going to suffer for it!!!!
Fair point. I can hardly get through an envelope, never mind over a hundred of them. Either a moistener or the new kind with the little paper covering, ya know, would have worked a bit better.
Well in a way she’s like George where they must keep going no matter what. Kind of like Charlie from it’s always sunny where he eats cat food no longer because of the cats outside but because it’s just apart of his lifestyle.
This ending honestly feels like the closest the characters come to realizing they're in a sitcom. They're so confused and baffled by Susan's bizarre death that they look like they're on the verge of asking, "Who's writing this crap?!" Like, it's so strange and out there that a non-reaction is the only reaction they can have
Things I'll never understand with Susan. 1. She didn't fight George for better envelopes. 2. She's paying so she should've gotten the ones she wanted. 3. She licked the envelopes.
I never noticed it when I was younger but the actress playing Susan in the show is actually quite beautiful. Shame some of the other cast members didn't get along with her or something.
It wasn't that they didn't like the actress, it was that they felt her character didn't gel with the humor on the show. Jason Alexander said he didn't feel in sync when working with her because it wasn't a good fit.
George was the catalyst for causing Susan’s death but she really didn’t need to continue licking those envelopes like that. First hint that something tasted awful and the next thing you do is keep tasting it?! Use a damp sponge or wet napkin, sheesh!
Shouldn't George have been able to sue the company that made those envelopes? Those things should never have been on the market! Plus, 2:49 might be my favorite line/reaction of the entire series in the context of everything
Most friends would immediately embrace their other friend whose fiancé just passed away. They’re so nonchalant about the news and give no emotional support whatsoever lol
Some people: 'Susan died, because George cheaped out on the wedding invitations and inadvertently poisoned her.' Me: 'No, she died because she was too stupid to switch to a sponge to seal the envelopes after she licked the first one and noticed how awful they tasted.'
Ironically, Jason Alexander got married at age 22, and has remained married to the same woman for 42 years. He is practically a religious conservative.
...the was possibly one of TV's most darkest, 'Black Comedy' moments, on a Prime time TV Series; it was VERY controversial, and got away with it, seeing that A. ...Susan wasn't 'shown' dying, and B. ..their ambivalence towards her passing...If anything, it FINALLY broke the mold of Black Comedy on TV, onwards....
Horrible way to cancel her character on the show. Who thought of this crap? I heard that she wasn't a favorite of the other cast members, but damn, they could've written her off the show any other way. The death by poison idea was absolutely horrible.
Disappointing to hear the rest of the cast didn't like working with Susan. She had some great lines "I think I know my own name", "He'd fall or something. He'd ruin the whole ceremony", "Frankly, I don't know how you can stand it". She was a perfect straight man to the rest of them
Probably not fair to judge her from just a few clips, but she did seem rather humorless. You could see it in the blooper reels where everyone else would be having a good laugh after something went wrong and she often just looked annoyed instead.
They never did pick up the Elmer's Glue. Also a smarter person would have stopped after they started feeling unwell, or just used a wet sponge. And prob sued the wedding invitation company.
Despite their obvious flaws, over time I tended to find endearment in all of them, even George. Well, maybe not George. But towards the end of the show, I started to truly reflect on how awful these people are, and this was certainly a pivotal moment. So in the final leg, Seinfeld kind of made me doubly blue. Partly because it was over but partly also because it's deeply misanthropic.
Perhaps that is why people don't rewatch Seinfeld the way they do sitcoms with sympathetic characters. Seinfeld made up laugh, but we do not like any of the main characters.
The only guy who actually seems to show some legitimate compassion is the dude who can’t even remember her name. Good ol’ Kramer.
George casually opening up the book and flipping directly to the back page is just pure George
Yeah, you wonder how anyone would actually want to be friends let alone married to George...Jason Alexander played him so well that you come so close to liking him until you realize he really is a horrible person.
@@mattm7798 how can I not like myself? 🤔
@@mattm7798 never could quite liking Jason Alexander’s spiteful assaulting character in Pretty Woman smacking Julia Roberts around so George could not be anyone I’d find favorable.
Really didn’t like Julia Roberts being smacked by Alexander’s character
@@robertweir5313 that's a really stupid reason to dislike George Castanza, because you didn't like the character he played in Pretty Woman. You my friend sound like a simp.
Don't feel too bad for Susan, she got off easy. The alternative was to be married to George.
Or being associated with Jerry Seinfeld and his wife!
For a min there I thought I was experiencing sadness. Thanks for this comment !
LOL 😂😂😂
Susan? You mean Lilly?
@@t-birdmr.t7980 She looks like a Lily...
I always wondered why Susan simply didn't use a wet sponge to seal the envelopes. I guess they weren't sponge-worthy.
😂😂😂
It wasn't in the script
@@TheBluesnbobYou didn't understand the reference.
😂
Ooooh i get sponge worthy 😂😂 like that one episode
Susan: *falls over and dies*
Laugh track: *HAHAHAHAHA*
🤣🤣🤣
Um, the audience didn't know she died at that point. They probably thought she just passed out.
@@Davez621 Still a weird reaction regardless. When is someone rolling their eyes back and slumping onto the sofa funny?
@@posysdogovych2065 It's a comedy show and it's done to a comedic effect. Only a terminally online person wouldn't understand that.
@@posysdogovych2065we should call you sawfty. It's Seinfeld.
She sealed her fate
😂
Nice
She mailed it in.
Ah, very good!
I'll give you that.
“Susan Dies” I like a title that’s straight to the point
I gotta wear protective gear because any point I’m always near is too sharp. 😬
South Park's episode was named "Kenny Dies" when he "really" dies. Then he just reappeared again the next year.
@@skipads5141And?
@@Christobanistan : Re-read the OP's sentiment about a title. Re-read me pointing out another title that is the same that he might like and is also similar to the point.
I'll schedule a short bus stop for your house.
even the official channel is flippant about it
It was an interesting direction the series went. It drove home what abnormal sociopaths the main 4 characters really are.
They aren't sociopaths they just have a bit of anti-social trade.
What’s even more abnormal are the replies to this comment.
Main 4 are horrible people and are the catalysts to many problems.
People really bend over backwards to ignore this or downplay this when it’s pointed out.
@@Atite_Lometen They are somewhat sociopathic
@@Atite_Lometen Not violent but unable to empathize in a normal manner.
Are you including the doctor in this? And the audience laughing? Everyone seems like a psychopath if you put shows into reality.
I love how George mentions picking up Elmers but then Susan is still licking the envelopes. So George was too cheap to even get glue to go with it
A sponge? Or perhaps Susan isn't sponge worthy.
@@whodidit99lol
Good one!
And at the time, a bottle of Elmer's likely cost 0.24¢
@@whodidit99 She could have just gotten a sponge from the kitchen, no need to visit Elaine's stockpile.
@@whodidit99 I can imagine George going "you want a 50cent sponge? nah we got free sponges in our mouth."
In retrospect, after watching the finale episode, the doctor's phrase "restrained jubilation " is just absolutely hilarious.
He's a talented actor, I wouldn't even know how someone can figure out this emotion and execute it in character.
Probably one of the darkest sitcom moments ever
Yes. I remember thinking that they may have crossed the line on this one.
@@hanoc101
Yeah it was weird
@@hanoc101go cry soy boy
@@AlphaQHardstill funny though
And yet somehow they still made it hilarious.
I love how Kramer corrects her on her own name 😂
She does look like a Lilly though
Poor Lilly 😂
Yes, typical Democrat stunt
@@ThisUnderWorldOfDarknesstake your meds
i always wondered why nobody sued the store for this, kind of seems like a slamdunk case for Jackie.
You've got a point there. The store knew the brand was discontinued, and rather than investigate WHY, they instead opted to just sell the envelopes anyway.
@@TheLobsterCopter5000 would've made a great episode
Kramer would have screwed it up somehow
George got the out he wanted. He's at least indifferent to the store for their role in her death.
George is a notorious meiser though there could've been a whole episode about him attempting to sue the company for the death of his wife.
The best part about this plot is George’s realization that his usual frugalness actually wound up costing him millions of dollars.
I was in the pool
You could've inherited this townhouse. And now? Not.
Yes he could’ve owned the Cabin!
I think the best part is the most annoying character on Seinfeld died
@@Harp_and_Guitar_Moving_Forward Are we just saying random George quotes now?
The moment George opened the end of the book encapsulated his whole character. The writing of this show was impeccable, how can you be that smart?
You're reading way too much into this. George has always been a cheap man, and any other cheap man would have done the same thing in any other sitcom when they say "the most expensive ones are in the front". It is just a simple joke that has been done many times before.
@@rike94 I know but Seinfeld is a master of the little things
@@rike94just because it’s simple doesn’t mean it isn’t superior.
@@randallwinters7387 yeap, that’s why it’s beautiful. Ability to make people relate to these situations.
The only one who showed any emotion to Susan's death was Kramer, despite the fact he said, "Poor Lily."
It was real nice of George to bring her to the hospital.
4:30 The way George says yeah in response to Jerry saying he’s no longer getting married gets me every time. “Restrained jubilation” is 100% accurate lmao.
The way george flips straight to the back of the book lol
Only Seinfeld could get away with something like this and have the characters being nonchalant and more worried about a pact. When the person who caused the death said welp let's get some coffee ☠️☠️💀💀
Dont'cha Just feel like killin' her?
He didn't cause the death, the adhesive on the envelopes caused the death. For it to be George's fault, he would have had to know it would poison her.
💀💀☠️☠️
The show was a comedy.
George didnt kill her though, he didnt know the glue was toxic
I can't think about wedding invitations without thinking about this show. Iconic.
George shaking the doctor’s hand is incredible
Never in TV history has a group of sociopaths been that funny. (LOL)
This was so tasteless, so immoral, so utterly wrong. Yet so freakin' hilarious! 🤣
I guess you haven't discovered It's Always Sunny.
It’s always sunny’s The Gang is much worse than the seinfeld’s “gang (lol)” but at least they didn’t have a dead weight unfunny character like jerry seinfeld.
@@drcl7429Charlie would’ve gotten a high off those invitations 😂
Always sunny is even funnier. This and sunny will remain the greatest sitcoms ever 😂😂😂😂
"June" "Late June"...even in this brief moment, George 🤣😂
His cheapness is what killed her 😢😂
This is definitely the video we needed after Valetine's Day. 😂
Heidi did a good job with the death scene. She didnt overcook it
You overcook it, it's no good. It defeats its own purpose
*lily
yeah, going cross-eyed isn't even close to OTT sitcom nonsense. Robbed of an Emmy.
In retrospect...in spite of Jason Alexander's comments about Susan being killed off for "incompatibility" or whatever, I'm not sure how this storyline could have ended in any other way. They weren't going to marry off George or promote Heidi Swedberg (or anybody else) to regular, and there was no way for the wedding to be called off the way the entire season had been written. Death was the only way out.
I think they could have had them get married - and then shortly after the wedding things fall apart so we would watch George deal with divorce (alimony, divorce lawyers), esp. if George had some master plan to make it her fault (and the plan backfire spectacularly).
@@jamesrawlins735 I can see a plot where George tries to manipulate Susan into cheating on him just so he could get a better divorce settlement.
Yeah they could have done a lot of things having George married. Maybe that 9th season could have been funnier too
@@jamesrawlins735 I don't see how the marriage can easily fall apart with all George tried to do to break up the engagement.
Have them get married, and then the marriage has to be invalidated because George forgot he married someone years ago to get a discount on an airline ticket.
Kramer is the only one who seems genuinely affected but he gets her name wrong! 🤣
This episode should have been shown yesterday on Valentines Day! Would have been Symbolic! R I P Lilly!💔
How would this have been symbolic of freaking valentines day 😶
@@pazjami9463 to all the fiancées that die from licking wedding invitation envelopes on Valentine’s Day. Duh.
Susan.
@@10RRASK Nailed It! Salute
@@astromonkey1757 She looks like a Lilly tho
Jerry and Elaine’s reactions are the TRUE sociopaths!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I love George’s reaction - I think that was such good acting, trying to care and not burst out smiling!
I always lose it at the " so we'll pick up some elmers"
Could you imagine opening a wedding g invitation that was closed with Elmer's!? 🤣 🤣
I would have shredded the crap out of it trying to open it
@@shotdang12 I know right!!👏👏👏😆🤣✉️💯
@@shotdang12 🤣🤣🤣
If they had used the Elmers then Lilly... err Susan would still be alive!
@@jeffgrubin1874 that was my logical thought the writers were gonna do, but then I remembered that won’t make me laugh lol
00:15 the early version of "sort by lowest price" 😁
The show was really pushing the envelope here.
Should have released this yesterday! Easily the darkest moment, yet oddly funny. The beauty about this joke it is that George almost got the ritches had he actually go though with the wedding, but NOPE!!!! His pettiness, cowardness, and cheapness got the best of him and now he's going to suffer for it!!!!
Except I don't think George actually liked her. I think he would have been miserable married to her.
Fun fact: “Susan” means “lily” in Hebrew(Shoshana)
Lol bulls**t 😂
@@marleymontega5654 Lily of the Valley actually, which also happens to be a poisonous flower.
@@elliotbryant3459 I think those envelopes were laced with ricin.
@@elliotbryant3459 MR WHITE
Probably thats the joke (jerry being jewish and all)
George inside his head: "I'm out, baby! I'm out!"
Poor Lilly!
So you guys want to get some coffee?
@@evansutton6760 WE HAD A PACT!
Susan
@@dantecarroll2435 Well , she looks like a Lilly !
@@d0nig let me guess Kramer because he never got her name right
the irony is this the episode Susan had the most lines
Doctor: "She expired."
George: ".... like milk?"
R.I.P Susan you would of made George an unhappier man.
🤣🤣
*would have made
@@nordimejia5790 *wood of maid
HAVE* IT'S HAVE NOT "OF"
@@nordimejia5790 English is my second language, Bigot.
RIP Susan Ross 1964-1996
With episodes like this one im surprised so many people were angry at the finale.
Heidi Swedberg did a superb job playing George’s all suffering girlfriend Susan.
And she is very pretty
@@johnkeith2450 not really.
@Fernando 30 she's fine
@@camw9133 Very bland looking. But hey if that's your type.
@@johnkeith2450 depends on the lighting
To be fair Susan was stupid enough to keep on licking the envelopes even though they were clearly making her sick lol
That was my thought. It’s almost a plothole, but I guess it isn’t that big of a deal.
Fair point. I can hardly get through an envelope, never mind over a hundred of them. Either a moistener or the new kind with the little paper covering, ya know, would have worked a bit better.
Well in a way she’s like George where they must keep going no matter what. Kind of like Charlie from it’s always sunny where he eats cat food no longer because of the cats outside but because it’s just apart of his lifestyle.
I mean, if there were ever a substance to make a bitter toxin undetectable in, you could guess a lot more poorly than thinking it was envelope glue.
George: Are you sure ? 2:34 minute mark 😂
I said the same thing upon hearing of the death of my best friend.
George should have been lucky that he wasn’t suspected after the way he acted
It was used against him in the last seasonn
Her dad buys a gun in the finale...
This ending honestly feels like the closest the characters come to realizing they're in a sitcom. They're so confused and baffled by Susan's bizarre death that they look like they're on the verge of asking, "Who's writing this crap?!" Like, it's so strange and out there that a non-reaction is the only reaction they can have
When I look at my own life I often ask myself the same question
Poor lily
@@SamuelBlack84 lol, best comment.
" Pooorrr Lilyy", Classic Kramer!!!
The fact that George knew something was wrong just with a glance showed how close they were, if not in love.
A woman died because of both cheapness and a pact that may or may not have existed to begin with 😂
Then during the end credits, George tries to chat up Marisa Tomei again. 😂
Things I'll never understand with Susan.
1. She didn't fight George for better envelopes.
2. She's paying so she should've gotten the ones she wanted.
3. She licked the envelopes.
It's just a show 🤷♂️
Well lets blame the writer.
4. she likes George
I never noticed it when I was younger but the actress playing Susan in the show is actually quite beautiful. Shame some of the other cast members didn't get along with her or something.
I thought she was
She wasn't funny, and quite annoying to be honest.
One of my least favorite recurring characters
when i was a wee lad, her, Julia, Marissa Tomei, all made me grow a big rubbery one.
@@shuriKen469too much information man jesus christ
It wasn't that they didn't like the actress, it was that they felt her character didn't gel with the humor on the show. Jason Alexander said he didn't feel in sync when working with her because it wasn't a good fit.
They should have ended up married, having a son and George realizing that he’s become his father.
Nah if he married her , he would have been rich ..
We were expecting 200 people 😂😂😂😂😂😂! This show is nuts! 😂
This is actually awkward. But I'm somehow glad they still went with it
I loved that actress, solid acting.
George being cheap eventhough he's marrying a trust fund girl is priceless 😂
George saying "Thank you" to the doctor for freeing him.
Restrained - jubilation.
The way George says ‘late June’ tells the whole story
Susan was the best thing to ever happen to George.
George was the catalyst for causing Susan’s death but she really didn’t need to continue licking those envelopes like that.
First hint that something tasted awful and the next thing you do is keep tasting it?!
Use a damp sponge or wet napkin, sheesh!
She was already intoxicated , she didnt think straight ...
@@boltzmannbrain6607 read my second sentence
@@steverogers7601 you implying glue can ever not taste awful ?? 😂🤦♂️
@@boltzmannbrain6607 way to now move goal posts, ya donut.
@@steverogers7601 youre angry at me for debunking your litte "argument". Good. Stay upset 😂🤷♂️
R.I.P. Lilly 🙏
Shouldn't George have been able to sue the company that made those envelopes? Those things should never have been on the market!
Plus, 2:49 might be my favorite line/reaction of the entire series in the context of everything
Was thinking about that but they're sitting in the warehouse so the company was probably long out of business
@BigBadJerry Rogers they were discontinued and the lady said that George wanted the left overs 🤣
Most friends would immediately embrace their other friend whose fiancé just passed away. They’re so nonchalant about the news and give no emotional support whatsoever lol
"So she's dead? ... Yes"
Audience: HAHAHAHA
George could've hired Jackie Chiles and sued the company who manufactured the invitations for millions. He would've been set for life.
Toxic envelopes! That's outrageous, egregious, preposterous.
I remenber when she said she didn't like Kramer, i didn't like her since that day because everyone love's Kramer
This episode really played off the death casually 💀
"Late June" pure George
I'll sniff out a deal. I have a sixth sense.
Cheapness is not a sense!
😂😂😂
Kramer’s “poor Lilly” was the cherry on top of this wonderfully morbid sundae.
I always heard this was Larry David's big regret. That this was too dark for their tone. I'd agree.
Some people: 'Susan died, because George cheaped out on the wedding invitations and inadvertently poisoned her.'
Me: 'No, she died because she was too stupid to switch to a sponge to seal the envelopes after she licked the first one and noticed how awful they tasted.'
God they're terrible. I LOVE EM!!😂
Jason Alexander's "She's dead?...Huh" has to be the all time funniest Seinfeld line.
Ironically, Jason Alexander got married at age 22, and has remained married to the same woman for 42 years. He is practically a religious conservative.
...the was possibly one of TV's most darkest, 'Black Comedy' moments, on a Prime time TV Series; it was VERY controversial, and got away with it, seeing that A. ...Susan wasn't 'shown' dying, and B. ..their ambivalence towards her passing...If anything, it FINALLY broke the mold of Black Comedy on TV, onwards....
Horrible way to cancel her character on the show. Who thought of this crap? I heard that she wasn't a favorite of the other cast members, but damn, they could've written her off the show any other way. The death by poison idea was absolutely horrible.
Disappointing to hear the rest of the cast didn't like working with Susan. She had some great lines "I think I know my own name", "He'd fall or something. He'd ruin the whole ceremony", "Frankly, I don't know how you can stand it". She was a perfect straight man to the rest of them
Probably not fair to judge her from just a few clips, but she did seem rather humorless. You could see it in the blooper reels where everyone else would be having a good laugh after something went wrong and she often just looked annoyed instead.
I thought she played her role well. The scene where she walks up on George trying to give money to the working girl in the parking was hilarious
Fun fact: 'Susan' actually means 'lily'
Kramer is a genius
George did suggest using Elmer's to make up for the lack of adhesion.
george didn't seem too broken up about susan's death
They're shallow characters, so they didn't have much emotional range for other people besides themselves. This was the point of the show.
I'm just glad all four went to jail at the end Lol.
THAT'S how she died? Wow. Well, it fits for this show. (I knew that she'd died, but never saw the episode where it happened. How sudden.
suddenly susan
One of the greatest season finales of all time
They never did pick up the Elmer's Glue. Also a smarter person would have stopped after they started feeling unwell, or just used a wet sponge. And prob sued the wedding invitation company.
George took her out. 😆💀
We were expecting about 200 ppl. 😂
What a brilliant show! Made for psychopaths, by psychopaths and about psychopaths. 😂
Had she been exposed to the kind of adhesive used on cheap wedding invitation envelopes.
Very specific.
Very funny irony.
Very... Seinfeld.
Let's have a coffee??? that's so cold ..... The Karma bus should visit him
Seems like he had a pretty easy lawsuit on his hands.
Everytime I watch this clip, I fondly recall how Jerry Seinfeld met his wife. ✌️
"........... are you sure?"
Jerry: "We had a pact" 😂
Despite their obvious flaws, over time I tended to find endearment in all of them, even George. Well, maybe not George. But towards the end of the show, I started to truly reflect on how awful these people are, and this was certainly a pivotal moment. So in the final leg, Seinfeld kind of made me doubly blue. Partly because it was over but partly also because it's deeply misanthropic.
Makes sense. The series finale was *literally* a reflection on how awful these people are.
George is GREAT. I will not tolerate this heresy!
Perhaps that is why people don't rewatch Seinfeld the way they do sitcoms with sympathetic characters. Seinfeld made up laugh, but we do not like any of the main characters.
he is a disgusting person@@TheLobsterCopter5000
This is how psychopaths behave when they learn someone died...