No More Exclusives from Square Enix, Multiplatform New Focus | How Will it Affect FF7 Remake Part 3?
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- Let's discuss some pretty massive news from Square Enix in regards to them no longer doing console exclusives and what it could mean for Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 3.
*Just a heads up I put the wrong slide for the first bit of info, but you can read it in the link down below.
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Just a heads up I put the wrong slide for the first bit of info, but you can read it in the link provided in the description under sources.
Was just wondering and checked the comments right away since I do like to read along haha. Glad you mentioned the link here.
It sadden me that Rebirth isn't doing the numbers it deserves. I'm keeping the positive world of mouth going, that's all I can do.
I do think exclusives were hurting more than helping. Looking at Capcom and Sega, Multiplatform seems to be the right path foward.
Same
I believe the sales would improve when it comes to the PC.
FF7 Rebirth should have ten times the sales numbers, the game is fantastic.
It would have if they released it for at least ps4
Same for ff16
I disagree. Ff7 is just nostalgia, so young gamers dont care for dads game.
Ff16. It's not even a rpg, and 15 didn't sell well er either. Ff lost its focus amd direction.
@@sagepirotess6312 that doesn’t mean the younger generation can not be introduced to it and it doesn’t stop them from liking the game no matter what you think in your mind also idc what genre you think 16 is the combat is good and I liked the characters. I don’t care about if it’s turn based or not as long as the combat is good which it is.
@@meitomiyazaki9848 sure they can be introduced. But sales are sales, the game and ip dont appeal to them. Who wants grandparents story, ff7 sucked in its day, and to try to milk it with a trilogy is meh.
A new story, yes please. Dq11 smashed ff16 and its years old.
The bigger issue is that Square is terrible at making multi platform games. They struggle dealing with 1 engine / platform, never mind multiple. They can’t even port a game properly and it takes ages so time cycles will increase even more. I’m all for these games getting more exposure but they need to spend some good money to acquire the talent to make it happen.
The exclusivity for Rebirth actually ends this month! on the 29th! So hopefully we'll see it much sooner on PC- Specs on that title are bound to be pretty beefy- so to folks who are running on older hardware it might be time to start saving up for some upgrades.
Also shoutout to the Tekken Tag Tournament disco level music- such a bop!
No, the games hasn't been developed for PC or Xbox which means it will take time to optimise for PC and Xbox. Wish SE didn't do this BS exclusive and did PC first but sadly the games will just be on PS5 for a while.
Rebirth is downright GOTY material. It's a shame it isn't selling well.
It would be, but the Ubisoft quests drag it down some.
@@kevinthunder3375 tbh that's on a "collect all chests" Kingdom Hearts level, or the "collect all coins" FF9 level. Optional. I deactuvated the minimap and always explored the map without activating the towers, which made for a *much* more immersive experience.
I’m sure Part 3 is already locked in under contract with Sony. I imagine this update is for KH4, next FF game etc
Doubtful
Part 3 has yet to be announced as PS5 exclusive but for the sale of the game hopefully Sony gets it. I am all for games like FF getting more exposure but something has to change drastically for this to work in the players favour as Square is straight up bad at making multi platform games. The devs of this very game have expressed gratitude that they only had to make it for one platform as they don’t think it would have turned out the same otherwise. 3 will most certainly get pushed back from a couple years if they go the multi platform route.
Possibly. I suspect that 1 of the reason why FF7 Rebirth can be this content rich is due to the dev team focusing on one platform 1st. Furthermore the danger of multi-platform right from the start, as shown by other game dev studios, is very poor PC port or even total launch failure on steam etc. This will give negative reputation/review to the game. So SE also needs to be careful of that aspect. Eventually though all games should be ported to other platforms when possible so more people can try them out.
I think part 3 will also launch as a PlayStation exclusive because if it releases on multi platform they won’t be able to release in a 3 year span I started with 16 loved it and then I got remake and rebirth also rebirth is one of the best games I’ve ever played it’s definitely GOTY material
@@TheGhost20978it wouldnt matter if it is. Not if Remake and Rebirth are. SE can't release part 3 elsewhere without the first two. They may need to buy out the contract, if they can.
I don’t care what happens as long as FF7 part 3 delivers. I’m good after that.
Thanks for giving a non-biased view on the topic - there’s been a lot of negative toxic fanboy stuff around Final Fantasy lately.
No, there's criticism. Everybody showing their stuff to the world has to suffer this one way or another. We are customers, after all, and not religious followers.
Developing games for multiple platforms will add time to the development cycle. If part 3 becomes multi-platform you can expect to add at least another year to its development.
@zackkeogh3515 Not every employee is a developer. Marketing people, HR people, etc don't help create the finished product. And yea just do a google search on the development time of any HD 4K game of the modern era. Red Dead Redemption 2 took over 8 years to develop from start to finish. Need to keep expectations realistic here.
Games that go multi-platform from day one are usually planned and budgeted well in advance to go that direction. But it still takes a massive effort to do all of the programming and QA testing when creating a game for multiple operating systems. It takes time to solve all of the technical problems and train new people to get familiar with tools the teams are using on any given project.
Sure they can rush products to the market, but there will always be some sort of compromise on quality if they do. That's a big risk to take in this industry because of how vocal and critical video gamers are if a product does not meet their expectations. Cyberpunk and Halo Infinite are prime examples of that. Video game customers are notorious for having for low brand loyalty too. So studios pay an incredibly harsh penalty if they release a product that does not meet the market's expectations.
Obviously Square know what they are doing when it comes to creating and developing games. They just did not get their product portfolio right to optimize their profits. But let's keep expectations realistic about what it takes to create and develop 4K quality for multiple operating systems, especially ones that have ~100 hours of gameplay content.
Xbox and Switch USER (not a fan boy) I’m SUPER excited to play 7 Remake. The game is beautiful, and one of Square Enix’s GEMS 💎. It does sadden me that Square isn’t in the best shape (financially), I’ll do all I can to support them on Xbox!
The only one that will come is ff16. Sony has a life time console exclusivity deal for remake and rebirth.
@@Deadeye012011 the marketing saying "exclusive until 29th May" says it's not
Sony just push very hard to keep it exclusive even after the dates
@@k-rams that's why I said Console Exclusive its been known since the start that it's coming to PC.
It will be nice to not have to buy the ps version and then buy the pc version.
My main concern with this move is the switch successor affecting the overall quality of Final Fantasy going forward. Nintendo consoles aren't known for having consoles that are capable of high graphics and performance.
It sounds like Square-Enix is in the same place they were before the first FF game came out. And now they're going back to what worked before the OG VII came out. I don't know why they changed that.
Anyone in the comments claiming 16 and Rebirth sold well, stop deluding yourself. Both flopped.
being timed exclusive, why not just say in the release trailer,
‘play first on PlayStation’
basically PS players get to play it first, then Xbox, PC, Switch, etc.
I am disappointed rebirth hasn’t sold great. Hopefully word of mouth and putting it on pc will help boost sales.
Rebirth sold good. But like XVI, SE needed a hail mary. They fucked up too many times, not to mention they release too many games in too short a time without any advertisement. Plus, did you see that XVI budget!?
However, I do feel this could backfire. Cutting out the lower more budget games for extremely expensive blockbuster sequels is risky. I also fear that Reamake 3 will be of lower qaulity if they have to take every console into account. Multiplatform FF games traditionally don't go over well. But can they release the Remake trilogy onto Xbox? It depends on the exclusivity agreement.
So you’re saying Remake part 3 has a chance of getting ported to the pc right away? Nice
It really should be the case. But the cost of porting and time required will delay the release. Probably the real reason it will still take 2-3 years to “finish.”
@@crowevil4658 Well I was never expecting Part 3 to release sooner. I say give them time to hone the final entry as much as possible. Last thing I want is for it to be a glitchy bug filled mess.
Most likely it will be. Otherwise it’s gonna sell less than Rebirth.
Yeah release on PC already and put your games on GeForce now would be much obliged
maybe sony has stop exclusivity because they are not making there money back or they are trying to save money
Not great for the games. The devs specifically said that one of the main reasons they were able to do so much in ff7 rebirth was because they only had to develop it for the PlayStation platform so they could take full advantage of the hardware.
Having to develop for multiple platforms is a headache for devs and makes game development much harder, this is not good news
Then they have to figure that out, cause their strategy isn't working. Sega figured it out, Capcom figured it out, Bandai and from soft figured it out, and countless western devs figured it out.
@@binshakbooga9238 literally none of the companies you've mentioned have created a game that matches the scope of ff7. The amount of content that's been shoved into a game that also has a great story, great gameplay, a massively expanded open world and a great soundtrack to boot? Sounds to me like they figured it out better than any of the companies you mentioned lol it's just unfortunate that in the end it just comes down to sales numbers
@@Solonos21 Does Elden Ring not exist? Metaphor will be stuffed with content just like P5 was. And Capcom release big AAA games consistently for all their major franchises with Monster Hunter Wilds looking to be huge.
@@binshakbooga9238 Elden ring is the closest thing you mentioned and it's completely eclipsed by rebirth. The varied amount of content blows Elden out of the water. ER it's just go here face this hard boss get this cool gear, rinse and repeat.
My point is that the devs came out and said that the reason they were able to put as much in the game as they were was specifically because they were only designing it for the PS5. It's not something they have to "figure out" it's just a fact that developing for multiple platforms is a headache and much more difficult and so would require much more manpower in time and would overall result in less content and/or a less well-developed game
This is why exclusives usually end up turning out much better than multiplatform and why PlayStation has so many bangers compared to Xbox
I could see the benefit of Rebirth coming to PC. I'm not sure about Xbox since the game would need to be able to run on the Series S. So I don't see Remake/Rebirth coming to Xbox or Switch 2 but I do think KH4, FF XVII and DQXII will be on those systems.
Just hope the quality dont drop, cause the quality is really high in these game, but hopefully its only positive
It will drop, that's the problem of developing for multiple platforms. It's why Sony's exclusives all stand out
@@Solonos21that has been proven false many times.
@@kjh4496 what? If you ask any developer, it's much easier to developing for a single console rather than multiple. This is just common sense and it's a little concerning that you don't understand that
@@Solonos21 They said the same about Ratchet and it was bullshit
Rebirth already have performance problems on 1 platform so I think being multiplats would force Square to be better and do like everybody else, Capcom and Sega do it very well so there is no excuse
This is a good thing, if some people don't like it, then screw'em
im glad theyre doing this. capcom did this years back and now theyre having a lot of success
Great vid, awesome observations. Thank you.
Is there another DQ game coming?
Ff11 actually came out on Xbox
Final Fantasy XV sold about 1 million out of 10 million total copies for the game in the end. While not that much, a million + the crazy nunbers switch 2 can bring would be massive for the franchise
yes a sale is a sale but time is time and budget is budget. its not worth spending your self thin if ultimately you are working longer for less money and its a high chance your produce have more bugs then it would have on one focused platform
Sounds good but they meed to make sure the ports are good! No more broken games
Hopefully this while allow more ppl to love the FF7 Remake series and they can pull out all stops for part 3
Good news cuz it shows that even PlayStation players aren’t buying the games
But they are buying the games the the report they released showed they made more this year than last year they are going multiplatform to cover the drastic increase in cost of making the games
@@azureeyes barely thou and you’re taking a 130+ million player base and a game only sells 2-3 million that’s low numbers
@TheGhost20978 ok that's fair but going multiplatform isn't going to make it better. Adding the pc and Xbox player base and selling maybe 10 or 20 million more won't be much different
I’ll say this. I highly doubt releasing these games for Xbox will make a difference. JRPGs generally don’t do super well on Xbox. “A sale is a sale,” but the figures would need to be commensurate to the effort and sunk costs porting.
PC and PS5 release will work more in its favor.
FF14 is the litmus test.
Yeah, if Rebirth sold 2 million copies on PS5 then, based on (vague and unverifiable) statistics, it might sell 200k on Xbox. Not an insignificant amount, but certainly not a "hit."
@@drewtheunspoken3988 with 16 they sold around 3m in the first week with a steep drop off. I certainly think it could a combination of SE content fatigue and exclusivity.
There is no reason that should be considered a “failure,” but the development costs and distribution costs are killing them. Media tours are expensive. They’ve invested so much time and money in tech, and blowing loads of money on marketing, even games that do well aren’t given the opportunity to shine.
On top of that streamers/influencers say, “I’m getting it for PS5, but man, PC will be sweet. I have to get it for that too because you know it won’t be that great visually on PS5.”
If this means FFVII R on switch 2 im all for it
I dont see how that would be possible. Isnt it only as powerful as the ps4 pro at most?
What I imagine SE president giving his annual report address is like: ruclips.net/video/FMdC32jWKVA/видео.htmlsi=HZHOriJPdnzZomF9&t=555 😁
I'm a little upset FF in my opinion belongs to Playstation and FFVII and cloud has been a mascot for playstation for years so to think FF will be on xbox kinda makes me sick.
Why do you care? Legitimately. Don’t you want more people to be able to play the game you like so that the company that makes it can stay in business and continue to make high quality products?
Ff has already been on other platforms before ff7 it will be ok lol
So Cloud running around with Mario and pals over on Switch also makes you sick? He should've never gotten into Smash?
Wah wah wah cry some more, meanwhile I play through FF7 3x a year on Xbox, also if anything it belongs to Nintendo as that’s where the franchise started