I appreciate you watching my video. This was a fun and easy project to build. I have used this winch to pull furniture, lawnmowers, and other heavy items into the bed of the truck. Thanks for the nice comments and hope you get a chance to build one too. Norman
This was just what I needed. Thank you so very much for taking the time and effort to not only do the video but supply the instructions and parts list to build this. Much appreciated.
Getting the golf cart (or ATV) into the bed of the pickup is cheaper than licensing a trailer every year. Good job! I use wing nuts on my temporary use battery. Saves the trouble of locating a wrench. Never saw a collapsible golf cart!
Good idea to use wing nuts, I will switch and do the same. The collapsible golf cart is easy to carry on camping trips. It is made with a light weight aluminum frame and has a total weight including the 3 batteries of 400 pounds. I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching my video. Norman
Thanks for the video I'm making some thing similar but alot more compact that slides in / on the top rails using free bed frame might post a vide of it when im done!
Fred, Sounds like a good plan, would like to see what your project looks like when you finish. I appreciate you taking the time to watch my video. Norman
Awesome job. We have a Cricket Cart with the same Truck and ramps. Actually looks and works like your cart except the collapse is manual on ours. I like the power feature on yours! The Cricket has an optional Remote Control that can be installed, which we did, ( 350.00 ) and makes it super easy to load and unload. Still you did a great job adapting.
Since we bought the mini golf cart it has been great to be able to take the cart with us. But getting it safely into the truck was not easy. Now With the portable winch, I can get it loaded and unloaded by myself with no problem. Thanks for watching my video. Norman
The winch cable is still connected to the golf cart when transporting. Once I arrive at my destination, I get in the back of the truck with the winch remote in my hand, turn on the golf cart and press the reverse pedal while letting the winch cable out keeping tension on the winch cable. Once the rear wheels reach the end of the truck bed, I stop the winch. Then I slowly let the winch out until the rear wheels are at the top of the ramps. I get out of the truck and stand to the side of the ramps just as the golf cart in starting down, I slowly continue the winching down the ramps until the rear golf cart wheels are on the ground. I get in the golf cart with the winch remote in my hand and drive the cart off the ramps. I loosen the winch and remove from the cart. I return the winch back to the starting position. It takes less than 10 minutes to safely get the golf cart from the truck bed to ground. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
thank you for the description. My takeaway is…when lowering the golf cart, you remotely control the winch to unwind in a controlled manner. It’s brilliant. I’ll get myself a winch now :)
Unfortunately, it's not possible to increase the weight limit for tie-down brackets in the truck bed. This means that if you want to be able to pull heavier weight, you'll need to bolt it to the frame. Using tie-downs puts a limit on the amount of stress that can be placed on each holding point, and as the strength of the pull increases, the capacity of the tie-downs is reduced. Thanks for watching my video. Norman
Do you think this would handle a load of up to 1000lbs? If if not what would you substitute? It wouldn’t be a daily thing it would be something barely used 2x a month.
Zach, Unfortunately, this set-up would not handle 1000 pounds. The framework is not able to withstand that much weight resistance. To pull 1000 pounds the dynamics of the framework would have to change significantly. You will have to calculate using physics to determine the force, rise, object weight, angle, distance, etc. to redesign a winch framework that can handle the weight you want to load. You will not be able to use the tie-down brackets in your truck bed to secure the frame. The tie-down brackets in an F250 Ford truck have a maximum force between directly opposed cleats of 275 pounds and a maximum force between diagonally opposed cleats of 600 pounds. The framework would need a welded steel frame and most likely be bolted through the floor to the frame of your truck. I hope this helps, thanks for watching my video. Norman
I used OSB board. I used a waterproof stain on the surface. I countersunk the holes and screwed it down to the ramp. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
Don, The winch is installed for safety reasons. While most golf carts can be loaded onto a truck bed with a ramp, it is not recommended to attempt inclines that are almost twice the grade ability of the cart. It is unsafe to guide a moving cart up the ramp while holding the pedal with grades that exceed the maximum grade ability of the cart by more than 33%. Kangacruz golf carts can safely handle inclines with a maximum grade of 20%. Furthermore, it is not safe to try and control the cart when it is coming down the ramp, as it can quickly run down the incline without any control or cable to hold it back. Therefore, using a winch to control the cart's upward and downward movements while on a ramp during loading and unloading is much safer and easier. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
I slightly modified the ramps by adding 1/2" X 5" wood planks screwed to the center of each folded section of the ramps. This was to help reduce the force needed to pull the golf cart up the ramps. Here is a link: amzn.to/3Fke41O Thanks for watching my video Norman
I made a winch mount out of an old piece of steel plate. You can buy a universal winch plate from Amazon or most automotive parts stores. You can also buy a low-cost steel mount plate from harbor freight tools for only $4.99. This plate is made for the Badland brand 2000-pound winch. You could modify it to fit your winch. Thanks for watching my video. Norman
The golf cart is made by Kangacruz out of Canada. It is a custom-built cart. Once ordered, it takes about 8-10 weeks to receive. Kangacruz is a small family-run business. Unfortunately, they have shut down. Here is what it states on their website: Due to the USA imposed tariffs, we suffered major losses and then added to that, the COVID-19 pandemic which completely shut down operations and cash flow. This combined with an uncertain recovery time, unfortunately, forced us to sadly make the decision to shut down operations indefinitely and liquidate all assets, back in May of 2020, making us a business statistic of both the USA tariffs and the COVID-19 pandemic. Since our shut down, as always others have tried to copy our carts. If you are in the market for a mini-golf cart, do your research and be an informed customer, purchase wisely, do not be fooled by others stating their carts are the same as our carts,... they are not, ... other carts that may even look like our carts, they also, are not. There was and only will be one Kangacruz, it's what you don't see that made Kangacruz different. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused. Stay safe. There is still information about their carts that can explain how well the carts are built. You may be able to find one for sale by an owner. Click this link to view the website: www.kangacruz.com Thanks, Norman
You are right about that. It is not shown in the video, The golf cart is strapped and secured to the bed of the truck when traveling down the road. The video was only demonstrating how the cart is loaded in the truck bed. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
I am aware of the portable hitch ball winch, but it will only function correctly if it is properly installed. It cannot be used with your truck's hitch ball since it is too low to the ground. You need to place the hitch ball winch at a height of at least 17 inches from the truck bed floor. It is crucial to install a winch properly to avoid causing harm to individuals operating or standing near the equipment in case the winch fails at any point during the winching process. Ensure that you calculate and construct a suitable mounting point in your truck. Depending on the height of the truck bed, the length of the ramps, and the weight of the object, the height required to mount the winch in the truck or trailer can be determined. If the winch is installed in the truck bed floor and your truck bed is 35 inches high above the ground, as you pull the object up the incline on the ramps, every inch you pull the object up, it exerts a downward force on the cable. This causes a lot of resistance on the winch and cable which can be quite challenging to handle. Increasing the height of the hitch ball in the truck bed reduces resistance on the winch and cable. The simple formula for a winch is Force = Mass x Acceleration, or F = m x a. This means that the force required to lift an object with a winch is directly proportional to its mass and the acceleration at which it is being lifted. The formula for calculating the ramp angle is Angle = inverse tangent (height/length). This means that the angle of a ramp is determined by dividing the height of the ramp by its length and finding the inverse tangent of that value. The relationship between the ramp angle and the force required to pull an object up the ramp is that the steeper the angle of the ramp, the more force will be required to pull the object up. This is because the steeper the ramp, the greater the vertical distance the object needs to be lifted, resulting in a higher required force. The mass of an object does not directly affect the angle of a ramp needed to lift it. The angle of the ramp is primarily affected by the height and length of the ramp, as well as the force required to lift the object. Thanks for watching my video Norman
No, its not fabricated. The roller bracket is a garage door header bracket that you can buy on Amazon or at most home improvement stores. Thanks for watching my video. Norman
i have started a laser cleaning business and am wondering if i should get a truck or a trailer for moving it around. its around 600lbs. the unit is around 1.3m tall x .5m wide, and around 1.3m deep. the machine has a water cooler so its not top heavy, but i am afraid if i should take it up the ramp like this. specially since its only running on 1.5in casters.
The winch stand shown in the video is built for 500 pounds or less with a 39” ramp height and 7.5 ft ramp run. Depending on the height and length of the ramp you plan to use, you need to calculate the rise and run to make sure you can pull 600 pounds. Longer ramps and lower rise will reduce the force needed to pull the weight up the ramp. Thanks, Norman
Dan, That would not work. The amount of force, rise, object weight, angle, and travel distance would be too much resistance connecting only to a winch and strap. The steel framework attached to the winch takes 60% of the downward pressure off the straps and tie-down brackets on both sides of the truck. As the rise increases, the weight also increases significantly. The steel frames outward front legs, press against the floor of the truck when there is resistance applied to the winch. With almost 4 feet of legs across the bed of the truck, it allows the small winch and strap to handle 500 pounds of dry weight multiplied by the rise and distance. Thanks for watching my video. Norman
Excellent video. I wanted to understand your design thought process. Is the basic idea that the tension force is transferred to the base of the truck using the horizontal member closer to the tail gate? And the component of the force that will force the stand to rotate forward is the only force that is on strap that is hooked on the side hooks? Which must be smaller.. I need to refresh my statics from 40 years ago to get the equation right.. Hopefully that would be much lower, so those don't rip out. Its a great idea, since it works. And if I am thinking correctly about your design, please let me know. So, that we can compute the maximum load more accurately. Regardless, great idea. I found your link looking for something that can pull up 500 lbs without relying too much on the F150 aluminum body.
Ram, The winch stand was designed to allow 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4s. When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4s are pressing down onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Only 35% of the force is applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed. That is why only one 5,000-pound capacity strap attached to two anchor points can hold the winch stand in place without breaking the strap or bending and breaking the anchor points. The tie-down brackets in an F250 Ford truck have a maximum force between directly opposed cleats of 275 pounds and a maximum force between diagonally opposed cleats of 600 pounds. The pully on the 12-inch 2x4 near the tailgate reduces the force needed to pull the weight up the ramp. This stand can only pull up to a maximum of 500 pounds. Thanks for watching my video, Norman
I'm looking to DIY one similar, but with a landscape timber, or wooden 4x4 attached to the factory front tie downs in my 1996 Dodge Ram 1500. (In the flooring) or add it to the rear of the bed to drag John Deere lawn tractors onto a tilt bed trailer. Nothing permanent, but also a fast mod. Will be loading/unloading John Deere 185 Hydro: Weight: 625 to 645 pounds lbs. John Deere Model 265 Weight: 630 to 755 pounds. John Deere L110: Weight: 462 lbs or 209 kg. STX38 Weight: 433 lbs. J. D. Model 111 Weight: 445 lbs, or 201 kg. As I'll be moving mowers quite often, I'll need something sturdy, but quickly, and easily secured. Just picking your brain for a way to make a secure connection between the wood, and the tiedowns. Thinking about lag type eyebolts to connect chains from the wood to the tie downs. Maybe I'm overthinking the idea? Any ideas would be appreciated.
Michael, Once you decide on the following: • The type materials you plan to use to build the winch frame. • How the winch frame will be anchored to the truck. • The type of hardware components you plan to use. You will need to do some calculations and research. You need to know the tensile strength of each component. (Strength refers to the ability of a component to resist loads without failure due to excessive stress or deformation). You need a winch rated at minimum 1.5 times the weight you need to pull. Also remember winch weight pulling capacity changes significantly on an incline. Pulling a 600-pound lawnmower up a 30-degree incline can reduce the pulling capacity by more than 15%. Calculate the force required (normal and gravitational,) to pull the mowers up the (% of incline you have using the length and rise of the ramp. Use the heaviest mower weight you plan to load for this calculation. You need to know where the normal force is being applied to each of the components. Example: On my winch stand, it was designed to let 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4’s. When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4’s is pressing downward onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Only 35% of the force is being applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed. That is why only one 5,000-pound capacity strap attached to two anchor points can hold the winch stand in place without breaking the strap or bending and breaking the anchor points. You mentioned using wood for your frame, wood also has tensile strength. You can find this information online. The anchor points in your truck bed also have a weight capacity limit, this may be available from the manufacture’s specifications sheets. Only use components that meet or exceed the force weight limit needed to safely pull the lawnmowers up into your truck bed. Normal force, Incline and rise and other physics calculators are available online to help you calculate accurately. I hope this helps, Thanks for watching my video, Norman
You can, but I would not recommend it. You'll need more materials and a larger stand if you build it out of wood to withstand the force that will be applied. To achieve the same results with a wooden frame, the framework's dynamics would need to undergo significant changes. You must use physics to calculate the necessary force, rise, object weight, angle, distance, wood's tensile strength, and the hardware's tensile strength used to assemble it. The ultimate tensile strength, also known as the ultimate strength, is the maximum stress the material can withstand before failure. The steel winch stand is designed to allow 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4s. When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4s are only used for pressing down onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Allowing only 35% of the force to be applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed. It is crucial to construct a winch stand properly to avoid causing harm to yourself or individuals operating or standing near the equipment in case the winch fails at any point during the winching process. Ensure that you calculate and construct a suitable structure if you decide to only use wood. Thanks for watching my video Norman
Curt, I do have battery covers over the positive and negative post terminals when traveling with the stand in the truck bed. Unfortunately, did not show them in the video. I probably should have since some people may not know why they should use a cover. Thanks for watching my video Norman
@@NormanGooch Great video, I have the same need to pull our Cricket mini golf cart into our F150. Any reason you did not just use the truck battery with the truck idling vs. a separate battery?
Mark, I use the winch stand in two different trailers for pulling up heavy items. When cutting firewood, I attach the winch stand to a tree and use the winch to pull cut logs out of the woods or out of the ditch along the woods. It was easier to use a separate battery and take it with me when I am working on these jobs. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
I should have shown a video on unloading when I released the loading video, for some reason I didn’t think about it. But it is as easy to unload as it is to load. I set the winch to freewheel and back the golf cart to the end of the truck with about a foot of slack in the cable, then I back the cart until the rear wheels are on the top of the ramp, with the cable tighten, I reverse the winch and the golf cart will roll down the ramp as I operate winch. Once the rear wheels touch the ground, I back the cart until the front wheels are on the ground. I then remove the winch hook, and it is ready to drive. Thanks for watching my video Norman
There are two reasons: 1. Safety -The incline exceeds the maximum recommended capability of the golf cart by over 20%. When adding additional body weight of 150 pounds the stability is extremely compromised and could flip over backwards as the cart moves up the ramp and even becomes more unstable as the cart declines down the ramp. 2. Motor power- Since this golf cart is a compact collapsible model, it only has a 2000 watt motor. The limited power of the motor is not strong enough to go up the ramp. If you try to drive the golf cart up the ramp, the motor will stall and it stop and will not move forward. I hope this answers your question. Thanks for watching my video! Norman
Scott I never found it practical or safe to try and locate the right size hill, mound, or ditch bank to load or unload a golf cart. I travel to several states and different campgrounds up and down the Eastern Seaboard. When I arrive after driving for several hours, I don’t want to try and find a place to unload the golf cart. I can safely unload or load the golf cart at my campground site in less than 10 minutes with the winch stand. Once you obtain all the parts needed to build the stand, it can be assembled in about 3 hours, well worth the time and effort to always know you can safely get your golf cart on and off the truck and be ready to go. I appreciate you watching my video and thanks for the comments. Norman
Good idea and build but i think im going to try and make a telescoping bracket that uses j bolts at the ends and some 1” all thread for the telescoping with some square stock pipe that the winch will u bolt to.. at first i was just using a ratchet strap attached to both top bed loops and had the winch with a u bolt holding it to the strap.. dont do this.. it hurts when it breaks.. both the truck and your dumb ass standing anywhere near it when it breaks.. by your im referring to myself.. got smacked in the face by the winch then crushed by the generator i was pulling into the bed.. dont have anybody around ever so was stuck there for a good long bit till the mail man came around and called 911.. worst part about it all was i made friends with a colony of red ants that were there…. Then made enemies with em and they declared war with me.. that sucked.. the jaw was bad and back but the ants.. good story to tell but bad one to be able to tell it firsthand..
Sorry to hear about your injury. That sounds really painful! I hope you can design a winch system for your truck that is safer and easier to use. "I understand the pain of fire ants as we have them here as well. They are very aggressive and their bites can be multiple at once. I'm relieved to hear that you are recovering from the accident. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video." Norman
I agree with you. This is my first experience using AI voice technology, and, like many companies, the seller guarantees that you won't be able to tell the difference between an AI voice and a real voice. However, since I already paid for the video, I decided to leave it as it is. Thank you for bringing to my attention how concerning this issue really is. Norman
Not a superheroes wear capes. Thank you, sir🫡
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Appreciate this build and video more than I can write in 80 characters.
Thanks for taking your time to watch my video, I really appreciate it!
Norman
probably one of the best videos with a full explanation and even a pdf of full instructions to build. Thank you for this. love that it is no welds
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate the comments and for watching my video.
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Norman
Amazing build Norman and thank you for sharing your blueprint. I know it was time consuming to film, build, draw, edit and upload. Much appreciated.
I appreciate you watching my video. This was a fun and easy project to build. I have used this winch to pull furniture, lawnmowers, and other heavy items into the bed of the truck. Thanks for the nice comments and hope you get a chance to build one too.
Norman
Thank you VERY much I believe come spring I will be doing this project.
I hope your project turns out great!
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Norman
@@NormanGooch I will let you know sir- Thanks again
Nice set up!
Mr. Lee,
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Norman
That is super cool, well done!
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Norman
I think this will work for my needs. Thanks for the information.
You're welcome
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This was just what I needed. Thank you so very much for taking the time and effort to not only do the video but supply the instructions and parts list to build this. Much appreciated.
I hope your project is successful. Thank you for watching my video!
Norman
Wonderful! Now I know what I can do when I retire! :)
You can do it!
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Getting the golf cart (or ATV) into the bed of the pickup is cheaper than licensing a trailer every year. Good job! I use wing nuts on my temporary use battery. Saves the trouble of locating a wrench. Never saw a collapsible golf cart!
Good idea to use wing nuts, I will switch and do the same. The collapsible golf cart is easy to carry on camping trips. It is made with a light weight aluminum frame and has a total weight including the 3 batteries of 400 pounds.
I appreciate your comments and thanks for watching my video.
Norman
It's a Power Wheels golf cart
It's awesome video tutorial, thanks for sharing!!!
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Thanks for the video I'm making some thing similar but alot more compact that slides in / on the top rails using free bed frame might post a vide of it when im done!
Fred,
Sounds like a good plan, would like to see what your project looks like when you finish.
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Norman
I found the pdf - ignore my comment. Well done video. Thanks
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Norman
Nice quick installation good idea for powering up one truck is off
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Norman
Awesome video
Lee,
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Norman
Gave me an idea for my toolbox though. Appreciate it.
Glad to hear it!
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Awesome job. We have a Cricket Cart with the same Truck and ramps. Actually looks and works like your cart except the collapse is manual on ours. I like the power feature on yours! The Cricket has an optional Remote Control that can be installed, which we did, ( 350.00 ) and makes it super easy to load and unload. Still you did a great job adapting.
Since we bought the mini golf cart it has been great to be able to take the cart with us. But getting it safely into the truck was not easy.
Now With the portable winch, I can get it loaded and unloaded by myself with no problem. Thanks for watching my video.
Norman
Glad to hear the Cricklet Cart Remote worked well for you!
Awesome video. Would you be able to share your blueprint/plans for your portable truck bed winch stand? Very cool.
Disregard! I just found the Pdf with instructions. Thx
Check link in the video description. Thanks for watching my video!
I appreciate your kind words
Norman
thank you for the video. How do you get the golf cart down?
The winch cable is still connected to the golf cart when transporting. Once I arrive at my destination, I get in the back of the truck with the winch remote in my hand, turn on the golf cart and press the reverse pedal while letting the winch cable out keeping tension on the winch cable. Once the rear wheels reach the end of the truck bed, I stop the winch. Then I slowly let the winch out until the rear wheels are at the top of the ramps. I get out of the truck and stand to the side of the ramps just as the golf cart in starting down, I slowly continue the winching down the ramps until the rear golf cart wheels are on the ground. I get in the golf cart with the winch remote in my hand and drive the cart off the ramps. I loosen the winch and remove from the cart. I return the winch back to the starting position.
It takes less than 10 minutes to safely get the golf cart from the truck bed to ground.
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Norman
thank you for the description. My takeaway is…when lowering the golf cart, you remotely control the winch to unwind in a controlled manner. It’s brilliant. I’ll get myself a winch now :)
does this sit between the end of the wheel wells and back of the bed
I see it does. Thank you
Terry,
Yes, it is in the back and behind-the-wheel wells.
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Norman
Bravo, sir.
I appreciate the nice comments and thanks so much for watching my video.
Norman
Have you built a wench stand that would work with a heavier load?
Unfortunately, it's not possible to increase the weight limit for tie-down brackets in the truck bed. This means that if you want to be able to pull heavier weight, you'll need to bolt it to the frame. Using tie-downs puts a limit on the amount of stress that can be placed on each holding point, and as the strength of the pull increases, the capacity of the tie-downs is reduced.
Thanks for watching my video.
Norman
Do you think this would handle a load of up to 1000lbs? If if not what would you substitute? It wouldn’t be a daily thing it would be something barely used 2x a month.
Zach,
Unfortunately, this set-up would not handle 1000 pounds. The framework is not able to withstand that much weight resistance. To pull 1000 pounds the dynamics of the framework would have to change significantly. You will have to calculate using physics to determine the force, rise, object weight, angle, distance, etc. to redesign a winch framework that can handle the weight you want to load.
You will not be able to use the tie-down brackets in your truck bed to secure the frame. The tie-down brackets in an F250 Ford truck have a maximum force between directly opposed cleats of 275 pounds and a maximum force between diagonally opposed cleats of 600 pounds.
The framework would need a welded steel frame and most likely be bolted through the floor to the frame of your truck.
I hope this helps, thanks for watching my video.
Norman
Nice video.. what did you use on top of the ramp to make the surface smooth for the tires?
I used OSB board. I used a waterproof stain on the surface. I countersunk the holes and screwed it down to the ramp.
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Norman
It looked clear as day when this started. And then the getting close to sunset. lol. I’ll just take my trailer with me thanks
Sorry, you didn't finish. If I can help with any questions, please let me know.
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I use aluminum ramps and simply press the accelerator pedal ! My Kangacruz will climb right up into the truck bed. Same height 😊
Don,
The winch is installed for safety reasons. While most golf carts can be loaded onto a truck bed with a ramp, it is not recommended to attempt inclines that are almost twice the grade ability of the cart. It is unsafe to guide a moving cart up the ramp while holding the pedal with grades that exceed the maximum grade ability of the cart by more than 33%. Kangacruz golf carts can safely handle inclines with a maximum grade of 20%.
Furthermore, it is not safe to try and control the cart when it is coming down the ramp, as it can quickly run down the incline without any control or cable to hold it back. Therefore, using a winch to control the cart's upward and downward movements while on a ramp during loading and unloading is much safer and easier.
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Norman
What are the dimensions of the frame without the mounting plate or winch?
The top frame width - 9 inches
The top frame height - 15 inches
Bottom frame width - 17 - 1/2 inches
Bottom frame length - 48 - 3/8 inches
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Norman
nice idea, where did you buy the ramp from, can you share the link
I slightly modified the ramps by adding 1/2" X 5" wood planks screwed to the center of each folded section of the ramps. This was to help reduce the force needed to pull the golf cart up the ramps.
Here is a link: amzn.to/3Fke41O
Thanks for watching my video
Norman
Where can I get the plate for the winch?
I made a winch mount out of an old piece of steel plate. You can buy a universal winch plate from Amazon or most automotive parts stores. You can also buy a low-cost steel mount plate from harbor freight tools for only $4.99. This plate is made for the Badland brand 2000-pound winch. You could modify it to fit your winch.
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Norman
@@NormanGooch great thanks. I just did not think the dimensions matched what was listed in the PDF. Thank you again for the help.
Wait a second Norman, how do we get the winch on the stand without bolting or welding?
The winch is bolted to the stand not the truck.
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What kind of golf cart did you load? I like that it can be collapsed with resort top on.
The golf cart is made by Kangacruz out of Canada. It is a custom-built cart. Once ordered, it takes about 8-10 weeks to receive. Kangacruz is a small family-run business. Unfortunately, they have shut down.
Here is what it states on their website:
Due to the USA imposed tariffs, we suffered major losses and then added to that, the COVID-19 pandemic which completely shut down operations and cash flow.
This combined with an uncertain recovery time, unfortunately, forced us to sadly make the decision to shut down operations indefinitely and liquidate all assets, back in May of 2020, making us a business statistic of both the USA tariffs and the COVID-19 pandemic.
Since our shut down, as always others have tried to copy our carts.
If you are in the market for a mini-golf cart, do your research and be an informed customer, purchase wisely, do not be fooled by others stating their carts are the same as our carts,... they are not, ... other carts that may even look like our carts, they also, are not.
There was and only will be one Kangacruz, it's what you don't see that made Kangacruz different.
We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.
Stay safe.
There is still information about their carts that can explain how well the carts are built. You may be able to find one for sale by an owner. Click this link to view the website: www.kangacruz.com
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Norman
Cool!
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Well not securing a load is a ticket in most states. That is a big gamble. When I put my zero turn mower in the bed of my truck it gets strapped down
You are right about that. It is not shown in the video, The golf cart is strapped and secured to the bed of the truck when traveling down the road. The video was only demonstrating how the cart is loaded in the truck bed.
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Norman
There is an electric winch that is made to mount to a trailer ball or chain/cable. You can also use it manually if needed.
I am aware of the portable hitch ball winch, but it will only function correctly if it is properly installed. It cannot be used with your truck's hitch ball since it is too low to the ground.
You need to place the hitch ball winch at a height of at least 17 inches from the truck bed floor.
It is crucial to install a winch properly to avoid causing harm to individuals operating or standing near the equipment in case the winch fails at any point during the winching process. Ensure that you calculate and construct a suitable mounting point in your truck.
Depending on the height of the truck bed, the length of the ramps, and the weight of the object, the height required to mount the winch in the truck or trailer can be determined.
If the winch is installed in the truck bed floor and your truck bed is 35 inches high above the ground, as you pull the object up the incline on the ramps, every inch you pull the object up, it exerts a downward force on the cable. This causes a lot of resistance on the winch and cable which can be quite challenging to handle.
Increasing the height of the hitch ball in the truck bed reduces resistance on the winch and cable.
The simple formula for a winch is Force = Mass x Acceleration, or F = m x a. This means that the force required to lift an object with a winch is directly proportional to its mass and the acceleration at which it is being lifted.
The formula for calculating the ramp angle is Angle = inverse tangent (height/length). This means that the angle of a ramp is determined by dividing the height of the ramp by its length and finding the inverse tangent of that value.
The relationship between the ramp angle and the force required to pull an object up the ramp is that the steeper the angle of the ramp, the more force will be required to pull the object up. This is because the steeper the ramp, the greater the vertical distance the object needs to be lifted, resulting in a higher required force.
The mass of an object does not directly affect the angle of a ramp needed to lift it. The angle of the ramp is primarily affected by the height and length of the ramp, as well as the force required to lift the object.
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Did u fab the bracket for the roller ??
No, its not fabricated. The roller bracket is a garage door header bracket that you can buy on Amazon or at most home improvement stores.
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i have started a laser cleaning business and am wondering if i should get a truck or a trailer for moving it around. its around 600lbs. the unit is around 1.3m tall x .5m wide, and around 1.3m deep. the machine has a water cooler so its not top heavy, but i am afraid if i should take it up the ramp like this. specially since its only running on 1.5in casters.
The winch stand shown in the video is built for 500 pounds or less with a 39” ramp height and 7.5 ft ramp run. Depending on the height and length of the ramp you plan to use, you need to calculate the rise and run to make sure you can pull 600 pounds. Longer ramps and lower rise will reduce the force needed to pull the weight up the ramp.
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It seems you could’ve just strapped the winch directly to the yellow strap making the rest of the modifications unnecessary. Or am I wrong?
Dan,
That would not work. The amount of force, rise, object weight, angle, and travel distance would be too much resistance connecting only to a winch and strap. The steel framework attached to the winch takes 60% of the downward pressure off the straps and tie-down brackets on both sides of the truck. As the rise increases, the weight also increases significantly. The steel frames outward front legs, press against the floor of the truck when there is resistance applied to the winch. With almost 4 feet of legs across the bed of the truck, it allows the small winch and strap to handle 500 pounds of dry weight multiplied by the rise and distance.
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Excellent video. I wanted to understand your design thought process. Is the basic idea that the tension force is transferred to the base of the truck using the horizontal member closer to the tail gate? And the component of the force that will force the stand to rotate forward is the only force that is on strap that is hooked on the side hooks? Which must be smaller.. I need to refresh my statics from 40 years ago to get the equation right.. Hopefully that would be much lower, so those don't rip out. Its a great idea, since it works. And if I am thinking correctly about your design, please let me know. So, that we can compute the maximum load more accurately. Regardless, great idea. I found your link looking for something that can pull up 500 lbs without relying too much on the F150 aluminum body.
Ram,
The winch stand was designed to allow 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4s.
When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4s are pressing down onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Only 35% of the force is applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed. That is why only one 5,000-pound capacity strap attached to two anchor points can hold the winch stand in place without breaking the strap or bending and breaking the anchor points.
The tie-down brackets in an F250 Ford truck have a maximum force between directly opposed cleats of 275 pounds and a maximum force between diagonally opposed cleats of 600 pounds.
The pully on the 12-inch 2x4 near the tailgate reduces the force needed to pull the weight up the ramp.
This stand can only pull up to a maximum of 500 pounds.
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Norman, I don't see the pdf? I would like to your plans and parts. Bob
Click show more under the video and keep checking down you will see the link
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Nice!
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Why are you using a voice synthesizer?
Trying out new software, new AI voice recognition.
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@@NormanGooch You should just use your voice.
Genius!
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I'm looking to DIY one similar, but with a landscape timber, or wooden 4x4 attached to the factory front tie downs in my 1996 Dodge Ram 1500. (In the flooring) or add it to the rear of the bed to drag John Deere lawn tractors onto a tilt bed trailer. Nothing permanent, but also a fast mod. Will be loading/unloading John Deere 185 Hydro: Weight: 625 to 645 pounds lbs. John Deere Model 265 Weight: 630 to 755 pounds. John Deere L110: Weight: 462 lbs or 209 kg. STX38 Weight: 433 lbs. J. D. Model 111 Weight: 445 lbs, or 201 kg. As I'll be moving mowers quite often, I'll need something sturdy, but quickly, and easily secured. Just picking your brain for a way to make a secure connection between the wood, and the tiedowns. Thinking about lag type eyebolts to connect chains from the wood to the tie downs. Maybe I'm overthinking the idea? Any ideas would be appreciated.
Michael,
Once you decide on the following:
• The type materials you plan to use to build the winch frame.
• How the winch frame will be anchored to the truck.
• The type of hardware components you plan to use.
You will need to do some calculations and research.
You need to know the tensile strength of each component. (Strength refers to the ability of a component to resist loads without failure due to excessive stress or deformation).
You need a winch rated at minimum 1.5 times the weight you need to pull. Also remember winch weight pulling capacity changes significantly on an incline. Pulling a 600-pound lawnmower up a 30-degree incline can reduce the pulling capacity by more than 15%.
Calculate the force required (normal and gravitational,) to pull the mowers up the (% of incline you have using the length and rise of the ramp. Use the heaviest mower weight you plan to load for this calculation.
You need to know where the normal force is being applied to each of the components.
Example: On my winch stand, it was designed to let 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4’s.
When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4’s is pressing downward onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Only 35% of the force is being applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed. That is why only one 5,000-pound capacity strap attached to two anchor points can hold the winch stand in place without breaking the strap or bending and breaking the anchor points.
You mentioned using wood for your frame, wood also has tensile strength. You can find this information online.
The anchor points in your truck bed also have a weight capacity limit, this may be available from the manufacture’s specifications sheets.
Only use components that meet or exceed the force weight limit needed to safely pull the lawnmowers up into your truck bed.
Normal force, Incline and rise and other physics calculators are available online to help you calculate accurately.
I hope this helps,
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Can’t you make the entire thing out of wood?
You can, but I would not recommend it. You'll need more materials and a larger stand if you build it out of wood to withstand the force that will be applied.
To achieve the same results with a wooden frame, the framework's dynamics would need to undergo significant changes. You must use physics to calculate the necessary force, rise, object weight, angle, distance, wood's tensile strength, and the hardware's tensile strength used to assemble it.
The ultimate tensile strength, also known as the ultimate strength, is the maximum stress the material can withstand before failure.
The steel winch stand is designed to allow 65% of the downward force to be applied to the 18-inch steel angle brackets that face forward on top of the 2X4s.
When the winch is pulling the golf cart up the ramps, the 2X4s are only used for pressing down onto the truck bed stopping the winch stand from shifting outward. Allowing only 35% of the force to be applied to the anchor points inside the truck bed.
It is crucial to construct a winch stand properly to avoid causing harm to yourself or individuals operating or standing near the equipment in case the winch fails at any point during the winching process. Ensure that you calculate and construct a suitable structure if you decide to only use wood.
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Next time put a cable across from the top bracket to bracket? Attach winch to the center. You're welcome.
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You need to cover that positive connection in you jumper to the battery from the winch.
Curt,
I do have battery covers over the positive and negative post terminals when traveling with the stand in the truck bed.
Unfortunately, did not show them in the video. I probably should have since some people may not know why they should use a cover.
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@@NormanGooch Great video, I have the same need to pull our Cricket mini golf cart into our F150. Any reason you did not just use the truck battery with the truck idling vs. a separate battery?
Mark,
I use the winch stand in two different trailers for pulling up heavy items. When cutting firewood, I attach the winch stand to a tree and use the winch to pull cut logs out of the woods or out of the ditch along the woods. It was easier to use a separate battery and take it with me when I am working on these jobs.
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37x?? I would stop keeping track of how many times i had done this after four. this guy is meticulous.
You are so right...I am too meticulous; I been this way for 70 years!
Hard to change old people...
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Let’s see u unload it
I should have shown a video on unloading when I released the loading video, for some reason I didn’t think about it. But it is as easy to unload as it is to load. I set the winch to freewheel and back the golf cart to the end of the truck with about a foot of slack in the cable, then I back the cart until the rear wheels are on the top of the ramp, with the cable tighten, I reverse the winch and the golf cart will roll down the ramp as I operate winch. Once the rear wheels touch the ground, I back the cart until the front wheels are on the ground. I then remove the winch hook, and it is ready to drive.
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Why not just drive in on.
There are two reasons:
1. Safety -The incline exceeds the maximum recommended capability of the golf cart by over 20%. When adding additional body weight of 150 pounds the stability is extremely compromised and could flip over backwards as the cart moves up the ramp and even becomes more unstable as the cart declines down the ramp.
2. Motor power- Since this golf cart is a compact collapsible model, it only has a 2000 watt motor. The limited power of the motor is not strong enough to go up the ramp. If you try to drive the golf cart up the ramp, the motor will stall and it stop and will not move forward.
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@@NormanGooch Very true, I have done it many times and it is always risky….
Great idea, but seems like it would be far easier to find a small hill and just drive the cart onto the bed.
Scott
I never found it practical or safe to try and locate the right size hill, mound, or ditch bank to load or unload a golf cart.
I travel to several states and different campgrounds up and down the Eastern Seaboard.
When I arrive after driving for several hours, I don’t want to try and find a place to unload the golf cart.
I can safely unload or load the golf cart at my campground site in less than 10 minutes with the winch stand.
Once you obtain all the parts needed to build the stand, it can be assembled in about 3 hours, well worth the time and effort to always know you can safely get your golf cart on and off the truck and be ready to go.
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Good idea and build but i think im going to try and make a telescoping bracket that uses j bolts at the ends and some 1” all thread for the telescoping with some square stock pipe that the winch will u bolt to.. at first i was just using a ratchet strap attached to both top bed loops and had the winch with a u bolt holding it to the strap.. dont do this.. it hurts when it breaks.. both the truck and your dumb ass standing anywhere near it when it breaks.. by your im referring to myself.. got smacked in the face by the winch then crushed by the generator i was pulling into the bed.. dont have anybody around ever so was stuck there for a good long bit till the mail man came around and called 911.. worst part about it all was i made friends with a colony of red ants that were there…. Then made enemies with em and they declared war with me.. that sucked.. the jaw was bad and back but the ants.. good story to tell but bad one to be able to tell it firsthand..
Sorry to hear about your injury. That sounds really painful! I hope you can design a winch system for your truck that is safer and easier to use. "I understand the pain of fire ants as we have them here as well. They are very aggressive and their bites can be multiple at once. I'm relieved to hear that you are recovering from the accident. Wishing you and your family a Merry Christmas! Thank you for taking the time to watch my video."
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nice idea BUT TOO LONG TO SORT OUT
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To much B.S., get a small trailer and be done with it....
Can't pull a small trailer and a 30ft RV at the same time. The golf cart is carried in the bed of the pickup.
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Wow that AI v/o is terrible. Twenty seconds in and you've earned a downvote, well done.
I agree with you. This is my first experience using AI voice technology, and, like many companies, the seller guarantees that you won't be able to tell the difference between an AI voice and a real voice. However, since I already paid for the video, I decided to leave it as it is. Thank you for bringing to my attention how concerning this issue really is.
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Awesome video
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