Is NASCAR 25 Starting Off Right?
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- NASCAR 25 will hopefully be the glorious return of NASCAR console gaming to the masses. Of course, all games have to start somewhere in development and at this time the current game is starting out. At least the public side of it that is. So I want look at the question, is NASCAR 25 starting off right?
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What are your expectations for NASCAR 25?
Im hoping for better physics, and if they have an online mode a way to seperate people who are actually looking for a good race vs those who just want to cause mayhem on the servers
Don’t be shit
My Expectations are pretty high considering Monster Games has been here before but is now backed by iRacing. Dale jr being involved in the development process is only gonna make it better.
I’m just hoping for good game play but I won’t be playing I no longer play games
The problem is the iRacing is so good. It's hard to go to anything else.
The bar has been set so low that we arent even asking for features we just want it to work
I want a competent NASCAR game with replayability and all around fun factor.
Like NASCAR 14 and 15
so thunder 2004
This can't, i repeat CANT be a Realistic Game, but it can't be a full on Arcade game. They need to draw similarities from the Heat Franchise but with more realistic tones. Something in the middle of Iracing and Heat 5
Heat 5. Let me just say that I started playing last week with three friends and we all really enjoy the racing. Two of us were bored with Grand Tourismo.
@@TactShooter nascar heat is dogshit we need a game with real physics and good damage on the cars
One thing I really liked from NASCAR '06 was the two-player season mode. My stepdad and I would just pick a driver each, play through the regular season, get seated for the chase, and go after a championship. More in depth than just a two-player one-off race but not nearly as involved as a career mode. It was a perfect balance for me personally.
Lupin said "if Dumbledore trusts Harry I trust Harry". If Jr trusts iracing I trust iracing.
I like seeing Dale Jr behind the scenes and open communication. iRacing will be the right partner for console gaming.
Just want to see how they'll fit it all on the Nintendo consoles
@@S.K.R.E.Inc. Its most likely a standalone release like a Nascar inside line on wii which are dumb down editions. Or they lower the graphics quite a bit.
@@TrooperA113they announced a Switch port from the beginning, Switch does support wheels, albeit a simplistic wheel but it still is better than nothing.
Dale Jr is probably even an investor in iRacing, he has been a friend to iRacing for a long time.
I remember the sunoco schemes that were promised in heat 5 and that half of the people who pre ordered never got. Honestly was the breaking point.
I'm expecting a 7/10 game. Good physics. Really good AI. Basic Inside Line Style Career Mode. Good Graphics. Cup Series Only. A really great foundation going forward
If its only cup then its gonna be 5-6/10
7/10 if a Nintendo release is done
If it's Cup only, then you don't have a traditional realistic career mode.
@@Maverick33 I would rather have competent AI and physics with a basic career mode for the first game than an in-depth career mode with bad AI and physics. I'll expect the in-depth career mode for the 2nd game
@@Maverick33 lmao exactly
I would love an eras mode for this game, like what nba2k has done with their eras mode. Be awesome to race in the 90s era and go through up through todays era would be awesome
Dude, being able to drive those era cars would be dope as hell. Racing against the legends, even fecking better. One can dream right!?
Need this for Madden bro
@CFGFootballFusion100 exactly it could work great. You could do so many scenarios and what ifs. It would endless entertainment
@KDill29 the only I see being an issues is getting all the sponsor licenses.
@@DrTensley Exactly! If EA could just listen to their “fans” for once we could actually have a fun time on the game!
The bar over the last few has been set so low that honesty, i just want a game that functions. Something i can get in, drive, and enjoy what I'm playing. Not a broken mess that puts you a lap down if a damn caution comes out before you get to the start finish line.
There are a few things that are different with IRacing making this than other companies. iRacing as been around in one form of another since the 90s, with the "NASCAR Racing" series from Papyrus, which I played and thought were awesome at the time. Even with the change in platform and physics engine, they have 20+ years of experience in making this sort of product and with that comes a valued reputation that they want to keep and build on. They also have all sorts of access and data to work with, along with real life drivers (outside of Dale Jr) that will probably be utilized. All of that is going to bring a lot of authenticity to the development and therefore into the game itself.
Personally, I'm hoping that they have a Sim, and Simcade option for game play so that those of us that enjoy the more realistic experience can still get it. I want the gameplay to seem as real as possible, even in a simcade mode where they loosen up some of the realism that would make it difficult. I think that combination leaves something for everybody. I also think a lot more people want a semi realistic experience more than in the past due to the sim world being what it is now. Racing games is really the only type of game where that can happen and it would be foolish not to take advantage of that unique and exclusive characteristic.
I think it would be cool if the career mode had a time progression factor. You can pick the year you start, and the cars and drivers, schedule, etc… are all accurate to that year and change as appropriate each season, you could start with Gen 4 and work through to Gen 7 cars, and the difficulty changes as your age would each season as well(the older you get, the more skill you need to have to stay competitive).
i’m just hoping that it’s not only the cup series. i liked the modified tour in dirt to daytona and i hope they bring it back
I don’t want to a fully customized paint booth or challenge mode. I think we can agree that if the game is functional, it will be a good start for iracing.
If it runs like the old papyrus PC games with updated graphics on the first try………take my money
Man, I only played one nascar game in my life, Nascar 09 for PS2. But I've been following this saga of horrors regarding nascar games lately here and on other social media.
For the first year, a game that works the basics well is more than enough.
Realistically speaking, all I’m asking from this new game is for it to function at its core properly, have decent online lobbies (not even great lobbies, just decent and functioning, with some form of a rating system to keep troll drivers from ruining all public races) and to have a good career mode to go with it similar to the Thunder career mode. If it’s a 6/10 game overall, I’d say they did a good job, if they can even add other stuff like a good paint booth and the other series, I’d say that’s even better. But all I want personally, is a good functioning game with decent physics with a decent multiplayer. That’s all I ask of Nascar 25
I really want randomized drivers or even custom drivers so im not always racing the same people
@@nineexists6621 that’s a cool concept, and I think it could potentially bring a whole new wave of fun to the games career mode, but we really need a bare bones fully functional game to start with. I’d rather it not have the nicest graphics or best quality sounds, but have some of the best racing physics, and good AI strength/competence. After Nascar 25, that’s when I’d like to see some of these extra features. I just want a playable console game at the very least
@@smunger69 i feel like most of the bases are already pretty well covered since iracing is like the biggest nascar sim
@@nineexists6621 iracing, and whatever they make this console game to be, will not be remotely close to the same. There’s just no way to make a console perform good enough to run iRacing, so it’ll probably be a similar type build but it won’t be the same as iRacing, I honestly don’t think it’ll use many assets from it either. That’s why I’m so concerned about needing the bare bones over extra features, they won’t be the same games
@@nineexists6621 iRacing and Nascar 25 will be entirely different games, they may use similar style bases to build from but there’s no way they can make it be like iRacing and play well on a console, iRacing just requires too much from the hardware. So they’re probably building this from the ground up using minimum if any assets from iRacing. That’s what makes me concerned about the base game needing to be good before worrying about extra features, we don’t need this to be another Nascar 2011, NHE or Nascar 21. I think they’re building from mostly scratch based on the fact it’s been in the works for 6 months at least already and we’ve known for awhile it wasn’t gonna drop until next fall. That’s what makes me concerned
I know we’ve fallen into this trap before but man I got a really good feeling about the future of nascar gaming with the hands it is in now.
I expect this game to basically be world of outlaws, but NASCAR theme.
I remember that Motorsport Games had BJ McCloud and look how that turned out so the fact that they have Dale Jr helping in some way is good
BJ McCleod ain't Dale Jr, he's probably a nice guy and all but he's only a back of the back Cup driver who won a bunch of late model races, Dale Jr races late models and Xfinity, was a Cup driver many years, and has experience in a gen 7 car...I think we'll get something decent.
@@polycube868 I think because Dale Jr and Iracing has been close since the nr2003 days I have a strong feeling that this new nascar game is gonna lead this to what nascar games should be it would be nice if this first game would be as good as Nascar thunder but realistically it's not gonna be like that but now I do expect it to be way better than nascar 21 and who knows maybe nascar heat 4 especially because Dale Jr is helping however much he wants and unlike Motorsport Games Iracing loves racing especially nascar and I they I believe do care about the audience and even listened and they care about the quality of their product vs Motorsport Games who didn't listen to the audience not even to their own employees and and they did a poor effort when the made nascar 21 and what should have been a simple copy and paste they screwed up nascar heat 5 and they in my opinion didn't care of what quality of their products are
@@johnathanjohnson5367 Dale Jr is an og NASCAR sim racer, he was playing the original Papyrus NASCAR Racing too, I have full confidence this will be a great product
@@johnathanjohnson5367Dale Jr.'s winless streak coinicides with iRacing's launch. Maybe that whole relationship with iRacing is really not what you're perceiving it to be.
@@johnathanjohnson5367Dale Jr is also an Executive Director at iRacing.
I would love to race in the rain
PS5 and Series X would blow up if they put as much detail as they do in PC
F1 games on console can handle rain and have since PlayStation.
My ideal game would be a career mode where you start in one of the 3 nascar weekly racing series ( ARCA , Whelen mods , Late models ) and then the 3 major nascar series obviously
Better physics a good fun game with replayability
I expect the basics to be nailed, track map, customization, and well a rear view mirror lol. Honestly I just want a capable working game with good racing because console players are getting it rough especially on Xbox since forza Motorsports isn’t in great shape itself. Personally I would like the ability to drive down pit road but if it doesn’t happen I won’t be that upset especially for a first game.
The absolute NEEDS:
-Start with cup only. Build the games base with a single series to begin with.
-Competent physics (i.e. good representation of aero, meaningful damage model, decent tire wear model)
-Multiplayer options for those physics, give host ability to boot mid race, (or vote to kick), and obviously private lobbies lol.
-NASCAR Thunder 2003 style career mode. Build your team from parts and crew. Get sponsor deals with expectations. Lock the difficulty at the start. Legend difficulty is absolute torture.
-Stats. That's all.
The one thing that i want is team management, like how heat had you start in the lower series and work your way up and buy teams. I love that, its something that iracing could never do, would be amazing for them to do that.
All I ask for is realistic physics.
Yes!
you won't get that from iRacing.
@@LOLRacing06 can't be any worse than what it is now
@@SHAKENBAKE-sh6kn oh it can get even worse. Ask Austin Ogonoski. Sim racing is all just smoke and mirrors.
@@LOLRacing06words from someone who’s prolly never iraced or sucks 😂 it’s close to real life but real life’s harder 😉
As a console player, I’ve been waiting for this for a long, long time. And if Dale Jr. is helping, I have more excitement.
I just want a Nintendo release of the new game, and Dale Jr offers exclusive content in that version
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.there will be a Switch port, it was announced when the game was announced.
@polycube868 it MIGHT have a switch version, but it definitely WONT have a pc version, right now it's strictly xbox and playstation only
@@stevenballard9769 It's confirmed to be coming to PC via Steam.
I’m hoping for it to be good, all of the best nascar games for console came out way before I got into gaming
I've said before that anything better than the dross MSG have ever put out is an instant upgrade. It doesn't have to be perfect but I want a NASCAR game that actually has potential and gets better in meaningful and positive ways.
If people are saying that NASCAR 25 is gonna be a great game when released, they better hope it's a good one, because we all know how Ignition turned out to be after release day, and people got excited too early.
I bet its gonna get cancelled.
@@NASCARCHAT24 finally another Ogonoski follower who knows the truth about iRacing.
@@LOLRacing06 im sorry what,
@@NASCARCHAT24 Austin Ogonoski exposed iRacing for lying about the Gen 7 car's performance.
I want a great driving experience and a great career mode. Make that great and can always do more down the road after you build a good base game.
I’m so happy you mentioned Thunder 2004 by name as the pinnacle🔥
I would like a game like nascar 15 I grew up playing those games but I loved running trucks and xfinity in the heat games but id rather have different generations from the cup series like gen 7,6,cot,4 and even the late 1980s cupcars even if its just 20 to 30 guys running a chevy lumina
I’m expecting a bare bones game(similar to how iracing itself is pretty bare bones) but for everything it has to be excellent. I think they figure that’s a safe way to go about it
Hopefully they bring back the gameplay where when you're playing with friends you can mess around and go backwards and create a big wreck
What I would love to see is like a NASCAR open world game. Give me control of the car on caution and pit road. I would love to drive to the garage during practice, actually drive the car to victory lane. The game I had on the original PlayStation let me control the car all time time. Unrealistic I know.
Two features I want for nascar 25 is one doing victory burnouts without the count down if you want to celebrate for two hours you can if you want. Next would be pit selection so if I qualify first i get first pit selection if I don't qualify first I would have to wait for the drivers who qualify ahead of me to pick their pit boxes and then I can pick the pit boxes that left. Basically like what the Monster Energy Supercross game has. Also basically the same AI from nascar heat 4 but day and night better than heat 4 even on the short tracks and super speedways
Most of what you're asking for (AI difficulty and especially the burnouts) were actually available in Nascar 2005 by EA, which is insane to think about.
The career mode featured 4 series, from Featherlite Modified, Craftsman Truck Series, Nationwide Series (now sponsored by Xfinity), and of course the Nextel Cup at the very top.
@@LolLol-fj6nz I know it's sad to having to ask for these things
@johnathanjohnson5367 That's absolutely true, it's a huge shame
Considering how well the Outlaws game was with Iracing being apart of that im expecting a 7-8/10 game. Just make a game that works with decent physics and graphics and that'll be a good foundation.
Fully functional game. All I ask is that they give us multiple gens of cup rather than the lower series.
I just want a good and competent racing game, and given that Iracing has all the models and stuff for almost every generation of cars, allow us to race those said generations so we aren’t just stuck with the next gen constantly
I'd at least like Xfinity and Trucks, I couldn't care much about next gen cars.
I hope we have something like the NASCAR 13-15 Paint Scheme Importer/Exporter. That was good.
A working game with expandability that has good driving physics.
Allow custom settings (fuel load, lap counts, etc)
These are the guys who made Nascar Sim Racing 2003. They have continued to develop their Sim in iRacing so I believe they will put a quality product out there.
It's gonna be a good game. They gave themselves a realistic deadline of 2 years to get a polished product out, and the creative minds at Monster Games will have a higher budget and better game engine to fully display what they can do in terms of developing a videogame.
One thing they need to do is have a fully customizable paint booth where you can upload your own image on the car as well as a place to share and download other people's paint schemes
Big difference in a sim vs a game. People should temper their expectations since this is for console and PC and console experience is just different
Even more so when Nintendo is in the charts
the one thing I want is like being able to drive your truck to races ya know? or like entiring the garage stuff like that. I also hope this game is an actual game and not just a new game setting in iracing, also maybe a build a track system.
As long as the AI is as good as iracing’s offline AI racing, then the game should be fine.
I still have physical.copies of the first Papyrus NASCAR Racing from back in the mid to late 90s, all the way up to NASCAR 2003. That was when I packed my Thrustmaster T1 and Logitech Wingman Formula Force wheels and pedals and went on an almost 20 year hiatus. I currentlynhave NASCAR Heat 4 and 5, but they don't have that same feeling as those first Papyrus made games.
Please have all 3 series that was the best part of the heat games
First and for most, I just want a fun and competent Nascar game. It'll be nice to drive some legacy cars like the Torino, Lumina, Monte Carlo, etc, bit that might be asking for too much. Until then I'm happy with my WRC rally game.
You keep bringing up that this will be iracing’s first NASCAR game, though I would expect them to simply update this game for the foreseeable future. Top gaming titles are all at least three years old.
Also I think Motorsport Games might be gone like no longer a thing I know after when Indycar pulled away from them they have been silent since. I know there is the La Mans Ultimate game but I watched that trailer and Motorsport Games name isn't on it it's just Studio 307 so I guess they are really gone
Hopefully, it’s as good as nascar thunder 2004.
And hopefully, it gets a Nintendo release after EA screwed Gamecube fans out of it and didn't give a reason as to why
@@S.K.R.E.Inc.But don't forget you did end up getting 2005, Chase for the Cup, which basically had the deepest career mode for a while.
I'd like to see a good quality realism raving game. And maybe the bells and whistles of other modes and abilities in later games
If I’m being honest I’m not rlly looking for dynamic whether and all this other outlandish stuff that ppl want in the first game. I could easily see dynamic weather being possibly implemented in the 3rd or 4th game. Wat I’m looking for is a paint booth, customizable helmets, etc etc. I’m not even looking for a nascar heat mobile where u had to build ur own theme park and so on. I rlly wanna hear the spotter when it comes to u being out front and he checks up on u etc etc kinda like wat they did with the nascar 14 and 15 games. (Ik there’s more than that but those r the only 2 titles I can remember) I also want great pack racing and just great A.I. in general. I don’t think these r rlly hard things to implement into the game. Obviously we want great graphics, physics, gameplay mechanics etc etc. I just rlly want more customization. I rlly don’t expect them to have any of the more fun and serious stuff until the 3rd or 4th game honestly. As far as having the weather, hauler, realistic crashes, even caution replays. While this stuff would be cool to have in the game there’s no rush to put everything in the very first game. This is a learning experience from them and as long as it’s not nascar 21 ignition, I’m here for it
All I want are the top 3 series, all tracks from all 3, and the ability to run all 3 series on all the various tracks, plus ability to run Cup length races with Xfinity cars and paint scheme mods, a career mode can wait till NASCAR '26, just get the basics right!
Who else Is Excited for NASCAR 25?
Will it be available on XBOX1?
A guy like me is excited about the game next year
@rebelsoul5980 no xbox series x/s only I think PlayStation 4 and 5, Nintendo and steam. I might be wrong you have to wait and see
I would like NASCAR to add asphalt feeder series. Like Heat 5 had the semi pro dirt track racing to graduate from, but I would prefer to start a career in like NASCAR Modifieds or Super Latemodels on pavement.
I would say so. From the early pictures I’ve seen, it looks pretty good. I’m cautiously optimistic about it.
Realistic crashes, Realistic damage, spin outs, real driving physics,. Also give us a legends mode with drivers and cars from 00's, 90's, 80's, 70's ect. Give us unlimited creativity on vehicle paint and the ability to create racetracks.
They should add a flashvack mode
I just really hope they have some kinda throwback mode with the older 2000 stock car bodies and hopefully even some 80s-90s ones. I know that’s wishful thinking, but mannnn I wish😂
Me personally I wouldn't mind seeing something like total team control to make a comeback, the cockpit view be more realistic, I definitely wouldn't mind seeing the duel races along with the shootout and all star race, I wish they would add a feature like rain delay and add the starting line up again.
Focus on the cup series, get all the core elements in place at a functional level and then build on from that over the next few years.
Best option for a sustainable franchise and long term platform base.
I just want the option for realistic simulation style racing. I'm seriously hoping the cars handle as close as possible as they do in real life, like Nascar Thunder 2004. Just give me a truly realistic racing experience and everything else should come next.
i trust iracing. hopefully it’s similar to the inside line game or really anything before the heat games. one thing i’d love to see is a classics mode. i know sponsors would be tough to work with but they do have the old gen 3,4,5, and 6 cars it would be cool to have a classics mode even if the ai’s ran blank schemes with just numbers and names
I have been sim racing since nascar 2k3 and before. Biggest issue with all the recent games was straight up handing (or the feeling of) that just wasnt there. you can have the best graphics and baddest music but if its suks on track, its dead. That being said, iracing already has ai racing at some tracks , already have the latest designs along with laser scanned tracks , all 3 series are up and running in iracing. All that needs is a solid paint shop and full season (maybe with ability to make own). Cross your fingers. lol
I just want realistic damage 🙏🏻
Looking at what iracing and monster games have done with the world of outlaws game i have high hopes for this game
The bar is in literal hell for nascar games right now, if iracing makes a replayable game (I believe they will) the fanbase should be happy
I would love to see the races and career work like the f1 games
2025 dont sound like a real year sometimes yk lol
still remember nascar 14 and nascar 15 drama of it being the exact same game with different car models
Tbh I play Iginition with friends and I must say as long as the new game has decent online lobbies, a good career mode and the graphics and physics of ingition that would be good enough for me
Just give us an in-depth career mode, along with whelen modifieds and Arca Menards series.
Realistic hopes for NASCAR 25:
1. Have a good Career Mode
- I'm talking, Start as a rookie, have base contracts or what not, similar to how Heat does, but make a better progression system, where it feels like you are being scouted and such.
2. Good Scheme Editor
- Now for this, I want it similar to how NASCAR: The Game 2011 was, where you could go super in depth and create your own custom Logos and other stickers for the cars.
3. Allow your custom schemes in Online Lobbies
- This might be something that has already been done in a previous title, as I have not played a bunch of NASCAR titles since NASCAR: The Game 2011. But I thin k the idea of what iRacing does on PC with Trading Paints, Is just amazing, and I'm sure there is a way to make it happen for consoles (If not for NASCAR 25, maybe for 26 and so on).
4. Fan Attraction
- Just give us a game that brings us into a good story for NASCAR. Something we can all look upon as a great Single Player/Multiplayer Experience. a place to enjoy NASCAR for what it is, away from the stress that iRacing can bring at times racing against real people.
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Brimg back the Legends and classic tracks as unlockable playable elements
As long as we have a new game I am fine with average for the first year I liked the career mode in heat 5 but if it had what we expect in ignition I can deal with it for a year
For the first game, I just want to see if basic game. Something with good physics, great handling and not something that drives like a dump truck like the heat games were. If we can get something that starts off with good basics like NASCAR 15, but with better AI, and better physics, that would be a better start than any game has had over the past few years.
You can go outside and play football, basketball,soccer,billiards,ski,skate,snowboard, tennis etc. the one sport with massive barriers to entry and expenses many can’t afford to incur can’t get a game to at least KINDA help people who can’t get into this IRL? What is the difference & challenges that the nascar game creators can’t overcome? How many great sim racers are out there right now even on a console level? I’m not talking iracing because there are obviously limitations.
Give me the right physics and track mapping good amount of car modifications and a career mode that'll have me entertained. Everything else I could care less on and yes that even accounts for online play make the bones of the game good and work on microtransactions a thing down the road
Nascar needs more exposure. those days when NASCAR was in the massively popular racing games like Gran Turismo was great for the sport i think.
At this point, it feels like it’s been more than a decade since we got a good nascar game, NASCAR the Game Inside line. I just want a game I can sit down, plug my Fanatec wheel in, and actually just have a sim/even arcade style single race fun at any track I want and actually have a good time doing it because it works.
I'd settle for some decent pit strategy. 2 or 4 isn't gonna cut it.
I am expecting that I am finally going to have to bite the bullet and get a wheel and pedal set.
I want 1 with a realistic damage model, if you are in the big 1 at dega or Daytona, show the damage
If we can get something that functions, maybe with legacy track DLC, I'd at least be satisfied with the product. Obviously, I'd like more than that, but getting the basics down and seeing the bar slightly higher every year is more realistic.
I want a nascar game like the F1 2023. Pit road and entire control of the car in cautions
I'm hoping that it's good. I've been playing, Nascar games since I was9. I'm almost 32. So I've seen the rise and fall of these games.
If they add Total team control to allow us to switch driver during the race that will be the best
And speaking of switch... they better release the new game on the Switch
All I ask for is dlc different Era cars. 70s 80s 90s ect...
My expectations are high for this game, but to be honest, I really liked the last Nascar games. I didn't play Nascar Heat 2, but I enjoyed playing Nascar Heat 3, 4, 5 and Ignition 21, which are considered bad or mediocre games for a lot of people. So, it's going to be very difficult to desappoint me in Nascar 25.
Dale Jr is heavily involved with iRacing, I am sure he has some input on this game. Racers and race fans run iRacing, which should help.
I just want a great, realistic visual damage model
This will be a stepping stone to get gamers into their sim racing.
Personal opinion
(I run iracing)
if they can make a game like iracing thats been around since 2007-2008 i think and make it a go to game when it comes to sim racing theres absolutely no reason why iracing cant do the same with this game other then them not wanting to put the effort/money/time into it which if that ends up being the case expect something similar to nascar 21 or the heat series. If they actually put effort and time into it then expect something close to what nascar thunder 03/04 was.
as long as they create competent ai this game should be the best in awhile since they already have most if not all the track scans to use as well as car models from their sim racing side
Iracing is publishing it I think monster is gonna be actually making it, which if true means we're in good hands. They did a good job with their world of outlaws game
I just want damage that actually changes the way the drives and semi realistic difficulty.