Great to hear that! Medical doctors are very dismissive and impatient. Always shooing you away. Wanting to charge exorbitant fees for just 5 mins of their time. I don't mind paying if he's going to cure me. Not just make money on me.
I'm surprised he used a chiropractic technique of fast velocity. OMT treatments are slower and the patient 'pushes' against the doctor's hands for 15 second increments. Dr. Mike should really make a video to show us genuine OMT techniques. It really alleviates muscle spasms/neck crics... Maybe OMT demos are elsewhere in RUclips land.
My doctor is a D.O and she’s amazing. She’s the best doctor I’ve ever had and I plan to stick with her as my primary physician as long as I can. She actually takes her time and never feel like she rushing like other doctors.
We have the same feeling with most doctors. They just keep on rushing you and excited to bill you. I even went to clinics with TV and the doctor was angry because he was watching volleyball. Most doctors are rude, insensitive and apathetic. It's all $$$ for them.
@@alfredhitchcock45 Tell me about it. Go to a specialist doing private practice where I'm at. This happens often: Length of visit: 10 min Price: 200 pln Now if the specialist has 11 patients in one day, they just made 2,200. Minimum wage here is 2363 pln after taxes (year 2022).
Alexa Cabello, DO is doctor of Osteopathic medicine. It’s a more holistic approach to medicine meaning that a major focus of osteopathic medicine is the body healing itself.
I just got my MD in Austria. I had no idea about the DO title in the USA until I saw this video. Thank you for this video and your other medically accurate and well researched content!
@@STAY_hey_yeah Most state-funded universities in Austria do not charge you any tuition fees at all. Some Universities of Applied Sciences charge about 700€ per year, though you cannot study medicine there (only e.g. physical therapy). Private universities are more expensive, naturally... At any rate, if your parents don't earn enough to get you through your education, you can get up to 700€ per month from the state.
@@emam2715 I have absolutely no idea. The other way round is impossible I think, but that is because Austria is often needlessly strict about recognizing degrees from abroad.
My ob/gyn is an DO and is the best doctor I’ve ever had. He’s so calm, listens and treats you like a friend, if it wasn’t for him I would of had a horrible time having my son like I did with my daughter.
Wow, this video just made my job easier in explaining to people the difference between DOs and MDs. Here in the South, people are gradually warming up to osteopathy, so it's a daily task explaining to patients and my MD colleagues what the osteopathic philosophy entails. Keep up the great work!
Dr. MIKE. Just want to say thank you. If it wasn't for this video. I wouldn't have found out about OMM. After 10+ years of being told "No" because chiropractors are not covered by insurance, I thought my spine would never get fixed. But because of you, I was spurred on to find a DO in network that does OMM/OMT. Sure enough I found one, got the Green light from my GP. Now after 2-3 months, with just 4 treatments, my spine is roughly 55 - 60% Better. Just want to say thank you, because even though you don't know me. You have helped me in ways I never thought anyone would.
A D.O. resident delivered my 2nd child (military hospital) and I was SO thankful I got him because my pelvis dislocated during pregnancy and he could put it back in! #EhlersDanlos
You're a pretty shitty human being, why would you have children knowing that they have a chance of inheriting Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and suffering because of it? You only think of yourself.
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Glad you had the right people around you. On a side note, my daughter has EDS. It's been a ride figuring it out and waiting on a visit to the geneticist.
@@kiyoponnn Dear Infinite Judgment. First of all, she may have discovered she had EDS after having children. A patient of mine was only diagnosed in her 50s, when her daughter figured-out she had it. And if the OP did know - have you never heard of IVF? People with all kinds of conditions are able to have children without the risk of passing on the condition, by genetically testing and selecting embryos without the disorder. And BTW, my patients with EDS, though they have challenges, are still glad to be alive. Your post was infinitely short-sighted.
It's one of those factors that often overlooked when speaking of a doctors ability. We usually talk about knowledge but if you can't relate to your patient or get them to understand their illness/treatment knowledge sort of becomes useless =/
Cassidy i LLLLOOOVVEEEDD my DO for that exact reason. Unfortunately, for health reasons, he had to retire and I refuse to go to the MD. I see the PA, now. WAAAAAAHHHH!
Horror Monster Bedise manner refers to how a doctor behaves, communicates, and interacts with their patients. If a doctor has a good bedside manner they will be friendly, kind, caring, understanding, take time to listen to the patient without rushing them, and show genuine empathy towards the patient. However, a doctor with a poor bedside manner could be arrogant, dismissive, overly abrupt, condescending, spends little time with/rushes the patient, shows a lack of empathy, and doesn't listen to the patient and their concerns.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, Dr. Mike! I was recently accepted and will be attending V.C.O.M. in the fall of 2019. I am so excited to start my career as a physician! I am always hearing different stigmas of D.O.'s and M.D.'s but in my opinion, like yours, the difference is becoming so small between the two that it really makes no difference. We are all learning to treat the patient behind the disease and that is what counts at the end of the day rather than the letters behind the name. As some of my mentors have said, "treat the patient, not the monitor".
Do keep in mind osteopathic medicine is unique to the USA. Foreign osteopaths are not the same as osteopathic physicians. In the USA: DO = "Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine" (whereas MD is "Doctor of Allopathic Medicine" or just "Doctor of Medicine") DO = MD + OMM Outside of the USA: DO = "Diploma of Osteopathy" MD =/= Osteopath
Had a long time chiropractor who always did that, though it was heavy on using things like heat packs to relax the muscles as much as possible before beginning the realignments. He'd always refer to it as Popcorn, and then tsk tsk you after for it meaning you haven't been properly moving your body, and likely have been slouching haha. It was always intimidating for me as it's so damn abrupt and hard. But then that meant I could never truly relax, having my muscles always maintain a slight tensity.
DOs students are less competitive, and usually take the DO route when not able to achieve admission into MD school. This stigma persists throughout each step of their career Doesnt mean they cant be great clinicians tho!! But their training is usually less than MDs
@@bruceylee8670 this couldn’t be further from the truth!! DOs and MDs have the same exact training except DOs have additional training in the musculoskeletal system. The NBOME (DO) and ACGME (MD) actually just merged this year. Watch the video lol.
@@collinssmith872 The merger is for post graduate (residency) training. DO and MD schools are not accredited by the same body. There are differences in opportunities and training prior to entering residency, otherwise PDs would not be biased against DOs. If you look at top residency programs, there are generally no DOs
@@bruceylee8670 in July this year, the first step of the merger means 1) that step 1 is now pass/fail which is taken between years 2-3, not post grad, and 2) DOs can get into any MD residencies and MDs can get into any DO residencies. My dad is a DO neurosurgeon, I also know another female DO neurosurgeon, a DO cardiovascular surgeon and many other talented physicians/surgeons that are DOs in what some would call “MD positions.” They’re all physicians. All capable of providing quality, evidence-based care.
@@collinssmith872 Yes you are correct, Im not arguing that DOs cannot be great clinicians, as demonstrated by your father and his colleagues. I am saying that it would be disingenuous to state that statistically DO students have the same # of opportunities as their MD counterparts, as many PDs at top research institutions unfortunately still favor MDs over DOs. With the merger, this could potentially relegate DOs to more primary care specialties (nothing wrong with that). Maybe your father and his colleagues trained at previously AOA residencies
I will be getting my DO in a few short months and that was a FANTASTIC comparison of the differences. I love that you explained the similarities are too numerous to mention. 90% of the doctors I worked with during my 3rd and 4th years were MDs.
Hi Dr. Mike! I work for an EMR company. As a product trainer, I am expected not just to know how the software functions, but also about the medical industry. I wanna thank you for making such amazing videos. Although I don't directly work in the field of medicine, I like to keep myself updated with what's happening. And I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said I can rely on your videos. This video, for example answers a question I have had in my mind forever. And no, Google doesn't help! 😁 Thank you!
OH MY GOSH!!!! I've been watching your videos all this time and had no idea you were a D.O.! As a third year osteopathic student this makes my little OMS heart happy
Dr. Mike, I couldn't agree more. My women's health doc is a D. O. I was blessed with having her for both of my pregnancies, which were high risk. Furthermore, she found my cervical cancer very early on. She did a phenomenal job!
I've had it done to me, and while it looks scary, it doesn't feel that way. Similar to cracking your knuckles, but it's your neck instead (idk if that's actually what it is, that's just what it feels like).
@@Evan.the.Butler that's exactly what it is. Theres no actual cracking going. Its what we call a cavitation which is a release of gas, same as your knuckles and also feels amazing when you have neck pain.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!! I'm a DO student in Texas and people really need to know that there are not too many differences at all and that a DO is not the same thing as a chiropractor. Most importantly, DOs and MDs want to and have the same skills to provide the best care for their patients!
@@bruceleehiiiyaaa , no, not always. You would be surprised. People have many reasons for their choices, from cost to location. As the degree distinction becomes less relevant for careers, these other factors (location, cost, spouse) become bigger deciding factors.
bruceleehiiiyaaa you sound like one of those little snots who still hangs onto their GPA and MCAT scores, assuming you’re not lying about yourself. Even then I’d never want to be your patient.
@@PhoenixRoseYT you guys are all so butthurt lmao. if you guys think a DO is equally competitive for the higher end specialities like ortho, derm , neurosurg, IR, rads, etc. you are fooling yourself. with the ACGME/AOA merger coming up for residency spots, i look forward to it being standardizes so we can fill all those spots with the best candidates (and if i had to bet, it would be on US trained MDs)
I’m a BI developer for a university hospital... my focus is primary care and we are seeing more and more DOs (we have also implemented sports med, and “exercise as medicine” programs). I have so much respect for the doctors I support 💕💕
Fantastic video!! So clear and concise - your videos keep getting better! We don't have any DO training programs in Canada and I was never clear on the difference!
Keep it that way, Canada. Don't let woo-woo spread. The idea that the body can be cured by manipulation has never been proven in any scientific journal and is essentially woo-woo.
@@Avaldemon You can't make a statement like that with no evidence. There are many recorded cases of OMT/OMM helping people with back pain, etc. Please do some research
@@Avaldemon Doesn't take a specialist to understand that manipulations of the skeletomuscular system can improve, at the very least, functioning of that same system. And as someone who has received manipulations before, I can testify that they're not magic or cure-alls but they do what knowledgeable and responsible physicians use them to do.
I just made an appointment with a DO, but I never heard of one before so I wasn’t sure. I’m glad to hear they are the same as an MD! And it’s interesting that they have that holistic approach, I actually like that. I don’t like doctors who don’t spend time talking to you and just assign medicine without even caring/remembering your current medical problems. Since a DO cares about the whole body, I imagine he will take everything into account. The DO I made an appointment with has such good reviews too I’m really looking forward to my appointment now. Thank you for the video!
I started DO school as a second career when I was 36. As a NYC paramedic my favorite ER was one which was all DO run. I didn't even know what a DO was at the time but they impressed me so much I only applied to the school they all went to, NYCOM now NYITCOM. I've been an ED attending now for 8 years and very happy. Liked your video, Dr. Mike.
My dad is an general/family medicine MD who works with DOs. He used to supervise a lot of DO students, too. They seem to get along quite well. There are benefits to both, I think.
Thanks for this clear and concise explanation! My grandfather, Dr. Philip Greenman, was a well known DO who did a lot to increase the credibility and acceptance of osteopaths. He also created many of the OMT techniques and principles that you use. Thanks for continuing on his legacy of quality holistic medical care and spreading awareness of the field.
I will never trust another person enough to let them snap my neck like that. The survival instincts are too strong. Might as well be trying to shoot an apple off my head with an arrow. Nope.
Wow, I've never head of a DO before. I'm Australian, all our doctors are what you described as MD. Here, an osteopath is more like a philosophically-different chiropractor. Maybe we should get DO's as well, sounds like we'd benefit from them.
In the US, Chiros are a completely different thing - much less regulation, some good ones but many are not. Like MDs, DOs have hospital privileges. I've never met a Chiro who has been allowed to practice medicine in a hospital or medical clinic. A DO is the best of both worlds, IMO.
Oh wow 😳. Wish didn’t read most of the comments here. So many hating on DOs. What’s the problem? DOs are licensed and legitimate doctors too who can help and treat people and save lives. Unless you’re in the business of doing the same, I think you should just take your hate elsewhere. It doesn’t help anyone!!
Fans Of Dr Mike I love DO. My all time favorite doctor is a DO she’s a Great listener and communicator. I am having such a hard time finding another like her.
My sports and spine doctor is also a D.O. he is a GOD send😇 I get full body adjustments with no snap, crackle pop. I mostly see him for Parsonage Turner's Syndrome/brachial neuritis something I wish I knew nothing about. All alignments are done with muscle movements. His name is Anthony West @ swedish sports and spine in Seattle/Issaquah. Miracle worker. 🙌🙌🙌 I love 💓 my D.O. he's the best hands on doctor I've ever had. His approach is like no other doctor I've seen. I've seen lots since being rear ended by an 18 wheeler. The PTS is by far the worst pain I've dealt with and my D.O. puts my ribs back in place with such ease. Physical therapy was grueling....D.O. is much better.
I can bet you it's because of the "Holistic" attachment. So many hardcore pro-conventionalists hate anything that seems remotely naturalistic and homeopathic, meaning holistic medicines to them are just as "hippy bullshit" to them.
My primary care provider is a DO, I get great care, and she is a great listener and communicator. As long as people get quality medical care I don't give a damn.
I went on a tour of an osteopathic medical school and fell in love. I was able to see students practicing OMT and also see state of the art technology used to train students. Becoming a DO is definitely one of my bigger career paths but I still am unsure of what route I want to take. This video was great!
I sling coffee for a living an a DO-med student has fixed my sacrum, my back, and even helped me figure out how to adjust my shoes so my sacrum does not bend out of place and hurt.
My OBGYN is a D.O., and she is the best! After years of complaining about symptoms to my PCP, I went to her for help, and she was able to get me the diagnosis that I’ve been waiting forever for, and get me set up with an appointment with a specialist in the clinic that treats my condition. I owe her so much after the amazing care she provided, and how she was the first physician I’ve ever had that made me feel heard.
Woof, reading the comments here I feel like people either didn't watch the video at all, or they are so biased against DOs to begin with, they refused to listen to what you were saying. I might suggest making a follow-up video where you further clarify some of the finer points for the mouthbreathers in the comments who evidently couldn't follow a simple, 4-minute video to begin with. To clarify: -Holistic =/= homeopathic. "Holistic approach" and "scientific approach" are NOT mutually exclusive. -Chiropractry =/= OMT, and OMT is something that a lot of DOs don't actually end up using in their day to day practice. Psychiatrists/pathologists/orthopods/ER docs/most other specialty DOs are likely going to be pretty indistinguishable from an MD in the way that they practice. Also, DOs do not believe that spinal manipulations "cure cardiovascular disease". I think that point became a bit muddled in your presentation. -DOs are board certified physicians, just like MDs. And if a DO chooses to apply to ACGME residencies, they take 2 tests, both the COMLEX and USMLE, extra work they are taking upon themselves to be more competitive (but as you said, this whole system will merge by 2020). -Yes, DO schools do tend to accept more non-traditional students with slightly lower average test scores, but this doesn't speak to the rigor of the education that they provide to those students. DOs go through 4 years of med school, and 3-7 years of residency (+ fellowships) just like MDs. The osteopathic process weeds out students who are not "cut out" to practice medicine, just like the allopathic process. -Most people have probably been treated by several DOs throughout their life without even realizing it. If you've ever been to the ER, or a walk-in clinic, this is probably especially true. But guess what? Your OBGYN, your dermatologist, your orthopedic surgeon, your anesthesiologist, maybe even your neurosurgeon may very well be a DO. If you want some real insight into the "quality" of your physician, ask where they did their residency. The letters behind their name are not an automatic indication of their quality or abilities. Some great MD schools graduate some mediocre physicians and some mediocre MD schools create some amazing physicians. The same can be said about DO schools as well.
I'll agree to everything you've said but OMT is straight-up pseudo-science. sciencebasedmedicine.org/osteopathy-in-the-nicu-false-claims-and-false-dichotomies/
No - only in the USA. The rest of the western world, we recognise that suggesting that osteopathy, which is pure pseudoscience, can treat Congestive Heart Failure, is pure bunkum and outright quackery. That's why we don't let osteopaths have the same positions as MDs, and we don't let naturopaths act as GPs. Because they practice things that at best are purely placebo and at worst are downright dangerous.
Solliel, upon reading the article you have so kindly provided for everyone I realized that we should question the authors ability to reason with his own words. He even gives us a scientific study! And even states that there have been lots of studies done just like it so it wasn’t really special because they all had the same results. Then, this doctor immediately says that it’s a pseudoscience. I’m confused as to how someone can present evidence, present results, state that it’s repeatable and has been repeated, and then say that it’s bullshit. Ya ever heard of someone named... ken ham. He does the same thing with creationism. These kinds of people at the front of science are dangerous! You cannot ignore the evidence! Come on man.
Currently we live overseas in a country that does not have a DO degree. However, before we moved my favorite dr we took our girls to was a DO. I remember she took time to talk about all of my questions and concerns. She also had a different growth chart for my daughters since I was breastfeeding. I miss that growth chart because my oldest is now 8 and is the same size of a 12 year old! Will have to go see a DO when we are stateside this summer for a check up! Thanks for making these videos😊
Who came here after Dr. Mike’s recent video on Trump’s COVID diagnosis? Crazy how consistent this man is. He always gives the facts. He tells it how it is
Love this!! I am currently a first year medical student at an MD school and I don't think I fully understood how a DO education differed from an MD one until this video! I definitely fell victim to the old-school stigma that an MD education is better but I've got to admit that learning OMT and focusing on the holistic approach would be great aspects of a well rounded program. It's a little scary that I will have that many more students to compete with for residencies (Class of 2021- after the merge)
I emphasized that point within the video. Also, this is a relatively new concept in M.D. education that was rightfully incorporated into curriculums within the last decade or so. Thank you for watching Dr. Strong.
“the good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease...” - William Osler. We quote William Osler all the time and he lived in the late 1800's. If you had stated MD's have a history of "paternalism" I would whole heartedly agree with you, we've radically shifted toward patient-centred care. But paternalistic medicine doesn't mean that physician didn't treat the patient as a whole. But to suggest that MD training doesn't involve "treating the patient as a whole" is conjecture. There's a reason taking a thorough patient history including their social determinants of health is still emphasized in medical school. Can you please cite where you found that the incorporation of "treating patients as a whole" only occurred within the last decade or so?
My "family doctor" is a Nurse Practitioner and I love her. I've never had an MD tell be to take supplements before. She told me to take CO-Q-10 to help with my heart issues (FYI I still have a Cardiologist)
So basically your saying, lets all chooses Dr.Mike as our doctor! :) Great communication skills, knowledgeable, good bedside side manners, and lots of experience. 😄 ❤️
Potato Gaming He is a doctor. MD and DO are fully trained doctors who can practice medicine in all 50 states. There is just a slight difference in the degree they choose.
Julian Do you want his UPIN (Unique Physician Identity Number)? We can give that to you. Non-doctors don’t have UPINs. Tho I seriously doubt he will give appointment to a d*ckhead like you.
As a D.O. myself, it is always nice to see videos like this. I only went to D.O.s growing up, so I thought D.O. stood for doctor and I had no idea what an M.D. was when I was a kid. I went to PCOM and became a D.O. and decided to do an allopathic residency in psychiatry. I don't utilize any manipulation in my practice - neither did my family docs growing up, so it wasn't anything I was interested in, but it was fun to learn. I would say most D.O.s do not use any manipulation techniques in their practice, but we all emphasize the holistic approach to medicine.
Sounds like your systeme is totaly différent then the French systeme ! I wanna know how many years you study ! Because for us it’s 7 years to become a general médecin then 4 to 5 years to specialize ! ( I ve always wondered what does do means thanks for the explanation )
Donald Lewis Why did you decide not to include manipulation in your practice if it is something Dr. Mike believes helps his patients over and above what non-DO physicians offer?
I did an allopathic (MD) residency since I wanted to be by my brother. Therefore did not learn any manipulation specific to my psychiatry residency. We don't lay many hands on the patients in my specialty :)
💗Love, love, love DOs! I've always felt that MDs treated diseases that occurred in human beings, whereas DOs treat human beings that happen to have diseases. I've worked with both, and will always choose a DO over an MD, if they are equally qualified.
Great video doctor! I'm a European trained DO. Unfortunately, here in the EU, we don't have the option of being medically trained DO's. But our comprehensive Osteopathic training teaches us how to identify and diagnose yellow and red flags, so the patient can be a 100% sure that a referral will be made if needed.
Why I immediately subscribed: 1. You know what youre talking about and Its Inspirarional to pre-med students like myself 2. You are very handsome 3. Great Content
I'm preparing for NEET exam (medical entrance exam in India to get into medical College) .We have Physics Chemistry and Biology for our syllabus . While studying during breaks I watch Dr Mike's videos old or new. They are so informative, educational and entertaining at the same time. Like Mike is literally a celebrity doctor who lives faraway in America still he's so down to earth. Seems like he's everyone's friend and just explaining cool medical stuff to everybody.
When I switched from an MD practice that constantly brushed off my symptoms for years and just attributed it to being an overweight female and switched to a DO run practice, everything changed for me. They got my condition properly diagnosed , medicated me properly , suggested some holistic wellness practices and my life changed. Lost the weight, the migraines and the fatigue just like that ✨
For over 40 years I had as my DO doctor, Dr. John Qualter. He was always spot on in his diagnoses, and he was completely interested in the personhood of the patient. He was regularly listed by Castle-Connelly as one of the best family physicians in New Jersey. As a result, I learned firsthand that Dr. Varshavsky’s explanation in this episode is correct and fair. Thank you, Dr. Mike for this post!
I can tell by watching your videos that you would actually be a good husband for several reasons. 1) you don’t act selfish 2) you seem to be very reasonable and consider several points of view 3) you are respectful of other people’s opinion even when you disagree 4) you are very Knowledgeable
Most people on here who have such a negative perspective on D.O obviously have no experience with D.O doctors. My father who went to TCOM, a D.O school in Texas, is one of the best doctors i know. I grew up not knowing that there was a distinction between a D.O and a M.D because i just saw him as a doctor. Most of his friends are M.D (from the best medical school in our state) and they give him mad respect because they know what a great doctor he is. In addition, TCOM stats are just as good or even better than some M.D schools in our state, so don't make assumptions that all D.O doctors or school are crap. I know many D.O who have done great on their STEP and got into competitive residency (the same ones those "M.D" gets into). Those M.D who look down upon D.O are probably slightly insecure and in need of someone to feel superior to. I question some of ya'll motives for becoming a doctor if two letter can prevent you from being a doctor. In the end you can say all you want but D.O are just as successful as M.D, they get the same residency, and the same future so suck it haters.
I'm a RN in an ED and my favorite doctor in the department is a D.O. Great attitude, and all around awesome to work with. Much respect to both M.Ds, and D.Os
Doesn't fucking matter what the letters stand for. It's who can cure me. Plain and simple. I feel like doctors just wait for me to be in the ER. That's their common mindset. If you're not going to die yet, don't even bother to us.
Thank you so much for doing this video. As European I had no idea that in the United States osteopaths were actual doctors, since in my country (Spain) they certainly are not. Now I feel like it's really unfair that D.O.s aren't allowed to practice medicine in Spain, they could perfectly pass the validation exam. Now I can explain my friends the difference betwen an European osteopath and an American Doctor in Osteopathic Medicine.
*FROM NYC here and My wifes OBGYN for during her 2nd pregnancy was a DO we loved her. She seemed to care more about what my wife was going through and (not because she was a woman.) Plus she wasn't always trying to get us in and out..she took her time.I myself want a DO now. Been looking for one*
I saw an MD once around age 17 because my former doctor had moved. I HATED her. She was completely dismissive and rushed me out of the office. After that I started seeing DO's only. I love that they don't rush you out and spend time discussing everything and really listen to you. I've only had an issue with one, and that was simply because I was the last patient of the day and while waiting for the nurse to get the results of the A1C check, he left for the day and didn't even tell me or anything.
Good job helping us understand the difference, my current primary care is a DO. I'm 63 years old and my DO has provided me with the best care I've ever had in my life. I'm sorry to say he doesn't perform OMT, I wish he did.
Over the years, I have had both MDs and DOs for my primary care. My current PCP is an MD and I'm very fortunate that he is a believer in the holistic approach. But what I came here to say is that, on average, I have felt more valued and respected by DOs upon first or second meeting than I have with MDs. It feels a bit like the difference between an auto mechanic or body shop versus someone who restores classic cars. Both of them want a similar outcome, but their approach and mindset are often different.
I have always appreciated Doctor Mike, but I stopped watching his videos for a while. Right now I am trying to decide my career in the medical field and when I saw this video explaining DO's, I figured it couldn't hurt. I also assumed Dr. Mike was an MD... But when I saw the DO after his name on his scrubs, I flipped my shit. I have gained a new found respect for this man. And now I am seriously considering DO school. Thanks, Dr. Mike!
Doctor Mike I must say you have some amazing content on your channel.. I'm glad I came across your page... Im sure in the future my channel will pivot and have more science/medicine related content ... your channel is GOAAAAALS! lol. keep it up!
My grandma is a retired DO. My late grandpa and her were actually lab partners When they were at Osteopathic college. Play later became the main doctors in a small town in northern Missouri, we’re basically the entire town saw them as their primary care physicians And they even helped vaccinate the kids in that town for polio When the vaccine first came out. My grandpa was also an OB/GYN.
We didn’t have woo woo alternatives to MDs in places like France or the UK. Having said that the DOs are now essentially MDs. They have started teaching and practicing actual medicine. Only real difference now is the letters following the name, and DOs stillest learn the largely woo woo art of “adjustment”.
This was affirming to watch! I’m starting as an OMS1 in August, and I’m looking forward to my training! I’ve always wanted to be a doctor. And I can’t wait to DO just that!
My current and previous Primary Care Physician are both DOs and I didn’t even know that there was a difference between DO and MD, but it’s nice to know that in reality they’re similar
My new primary care doctor is a D.O., and so far I really like them! Our first appoint was very long but I felt a lot more listened to than at my old pediatric doctor.
I've had incredible good luck with DOs. I have a complex neuro/ortho issue that chiro and other adjustments can't be applied, but the philosophy behind DO training, i feel, has allowed my drs to better treat my issues
So very well said. I work in an ortho group and we have DOs and MDs and it is very interesting to try and explain it to people. Most of the DOs we have are pcp sports medicine non surgical but we do not have one that does OMT in our group. It’s so interesting to hear you speak because I know a lot about the residency dynamic in our practice
Mr. Mike I admire the work you put in to inform your patients and us regular people. You make learning health care fun. I didn't know the difference between MD OR DO until I saw your video. It makes sense to look for a DR that agrees with your same stance on health care. I know you mentioned that some MD perfer preventive first but not all. When I was pregnant I suffered depression along with other health issues and all my doctors first recommended was meds. I believe meds are important but they are not always the #1 solution. I perfer the holistic and preventive approach first. My docs would get fustrated with me when I didn't want to take it and I will continue to complain of certain issues. What scared me was the multitude of side effects that were risking my unborn baby and myself. Your videos help with looking for a DR that fits your needs and also to help the patient to communicate effectively to their doc. Sometimes patients walkin with an assumption that docs should know everything. Thank you for presenting docs in a very human light. Keep doing what you are doing your making a difference.
Very true!! thank you Dr. Mike. I have recently applied to both types of schools. Hopefully I am accepted to one of them. I actually prefer the DO route, like you said, I really find the holistic approach and OMT to be very crucial in treating a patient.
My doctor is a DO. I am a nurse and I have complete faith in his medical knowlege. The bonus is I know he cares about me as a whole. I am also 61 and I know what I am talking about.
Dr mike, you should make a video on the difference of DO and Chiropractor. People think chiropractors are physicians and think DOs are chiropractors so you would definitely end some of the confusion and ignorance! Thank you!
My doctor is a DO and she is the best doctor I have ever had. She approaches medicine in a completely different way than my other previous doctors. She is caring, understanding, and most of all, she LISTENS to my concerns and acts accordingly to help me. My other previous doctors just questioned me or disregarded my concerns entirely.
Dr. Mike, two quick comments.( DISCLOSURE: I am an M.D. ) That being said I agree with 99 percent of this video. Point 1: D.O.'s trained more than say 20 years ago were often people who could not get into MD school and the DO programs were not as good as they are today...just maybe be leery about D.O's trained several decades ago or more....that being said I agree with the current view that recently educated D.O.'s are just as well trained as M.D.'s. Point 2: I am a family doc and my experience in residency was extremely wholistic in the approach to the patient, I think that just as D.O. training has gotten better over the decades, I think M.D. programs, especially family medicine, has become much more pt. centered and wholistic. So back off man ;) All that being said I think you are a great guy and I enjoy your videos.
Doc, you'd be the perfect person to answer this question for me consider you're a fam med dr. Do you think its more worth it to become a PA if one was interested in fam med? It's cheaper and the programs are shorter, whats your opinion on the topic?
This would help my mom so much if she could just get this done as part of a regular check up. Her doctor recommended getting adjustments after she was in a car accident, but she had to travel pretty far to find a chiropractor. Come to California, Dr. Mike!
I'm currently a nurse, can you do a video on the difference between D.O and N.P, as a nurse we focus on holistic care and preventative measures with also a huge emphasis on the bedside manners of our patients.
That was very interesting and completely new to me. I'm French and we only have one "type" of doctors here. I was confused when you said what DO meant because, as you explained, in Europe osteopaths aren't medical doctors. I had no idea there were two ways of becoming a doctor in the USA. We know a lot about US culture here because it's everywhere in the media but this is something that I had never heard of. I love learning new things, thank you for that :)
A lot of US citizens don't know about it because DO's are a minority. Also, random piece of information about America. I have told people from other countries that New York is not the typical American city even though you may see it a lot in the media. If you want to go to a large American city that is more typical of other American cities, it is Chicago. For better and for worse.
Wow, ok. Thank you for the information ! :) That's funny, I have a friend from Chicago who said the exact same thing that you did. I do realize that New York is not representative of the USA, just like Paris is definitely not like the rest of France. This city is kind of like its own country actually haha That "for better and for worse" part was very dramatic :p I'm curious, what would you say are the main good and bad sides of it ?
AlwaysDreamable There are areas in Chicago that have more crime. You need to be careful in the South side of Chicago. That's kind of the way America is. Certain places have more crime than others. So, it is not like the whole country is dangerous. However, Chicago also has some great places. The University of Chicago is known to be a great University. The Art Institute of Chicago is also great. Also, what you said about Paris is basically what New York is to America. It is great, but it is its own entity.
Thanks for all the tips ! If I ever have the chance to go to Chicago, I will certainly use them. And I guess every country has places that are more dangerous than others. One should just be careful, no matter what country they are in.
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My neurologist is a DO. I love him a lot. First neurologist I’ve ever felt respected by.
Heather Knight Same...
Great to hear that! Medical doctors are very dismissive and impatient. Always shooing you away. Wanting to charge exorbitant fees for just 5 mins of their time. I don't mind paying if he's going to cure me. Not just make money on me.
@@alfredhitchcock45 so true, like when when I go to mcdonalds Im just hungry, and all they want its my money
Daavid Niñodejesus I see you tried sounding smart and sarcastic, but you failed. Fool
Feels great to hear this as a future DO student who wants to be a neurologist 😁
*breaks her neck* - how do you feel? - I feel great: all pain is gone, all sorrow is gone, forever.
Omg I subscribed
Lol
I cant see anything
Too funny
I'm surprised he used a chiropractic technique of fast velocity. OMT treatments are slower and the patient 'pushes' against the doctor's hands for 15 second increments. Dr. Mike should really make a video to show us genuine OMT techniques. It really alleviates muscle spasms/neck crics... Maybe OMT demos are elsewhere in RUclips land.
You thought I was an M.D.... BUT IT WAS ME, D.O.
KONO D.O. DA
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I'm confused
@@superduperjoi6800 its a Jojo's Bizarre adventure reference
My doctor is a D.O and she’s amazing. She’s the best doctor I’ve ever had and I plan to stick with her as my primary physician as long as I can. She actually takes her time and never feel like she rushing like other doctors.
So happy to hear about your experience Lily! You should show her this video =]
We have the same feeling with most doctors. They just keep on rushing you and excited to bill you. I even went to clinics with TV and the doctor was angry because he was watching volleyball. Most doctors are rude, insensitive and apathetic. It's all $$$ for them.
Lily I also have a DO as my primary care provider and mine as well takes her time to help and not just rush examinations.
@@alfredhitchcock45 there are easier options for money, medical practitioners have the same goal. To help people.
@@alfredhitchcock45 Tell me about it. Go to a specialist doing private practice where I'm at. This happens often: Length of visit: 10 min Price: 200 pln
Now if the specialist has 11 patients in one day, they just made 2,200. Minimum wage here is 2363 pln after taxes (year 2022).
I stopped eating apples because of him.
Why? :o
Yasmim “an apple a day keeps the doctor away” hope that helps
Annika 😂😂😂😂❤️
LOL
Best comment 😂😂😂
Me, an intellectual
MD- *Medical Doctor*
DO- *Doctor*
Lmao😂
Same 🤦🏻♀️
Alexa Cabello me too😂
Alexa Cabello, DO is doctor of Osteopathic medicine. It’s a more holistic approach to medicine meaning that a major focus of osteopathic medicine is the body healing itself.
Dr. Q bahah I know but sometimes I dont think! Thankssss ♥️
I just got my MD in Austria. I had no idea about the DO title in the USA until I saw this video. Thank you for this video and your other medically accurate and well researched content!
How much did the course cost ._.
@@STAY_hey_yeah Most state-funded universities in Austria do not charge you any tuition fees at all. Some Universities of Applied Sciences charge about 700€ per year, though you cannot study medicine there (only e.g. physical therapy). Private universities are more expensive, naturally... At any rate, if your parents don't earn enough to get you through your education, you can get up to 700€ per month from the state.
@@ellinmara5997 are you able to practice in the united states if you go abroad to get your md in the EU?
@@emam2715 I have absolutely no idea. The other way round is impossible I think, but that is because Austria is often needlessly strict about recognizing degrees from abroad.
@@ellinmara5997 really?! huh that’s interesting .. i was always taught that MD’s from the US are recognized globally!
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- MG initial's, and
- a Dr Mike's girl (just a different Mike lol).
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My ob/gyn is an DO and is the best doctor I’ve ever had. He’s so calm, listens and treats you like a friend, if it wasn’t for him I would of had a horrible time having my son like I did with my daughter.
Would have**
Wow, this video just made my job easier in explaining to people the difference between DOs and MDs. Here in the South, people are gradually warming up to osteopathy, so it's a daily task explaining to patients and my MD colleagues what the osteopathic philosophy entails. Keep up the great work!
I’m also a DO and an FM resident. I use this video to explain what I do to family and friends.
Thank you for being a proud DO!
Dr. MIKE.
Just want to say thank you.
If it wasn't for this video.
I wouldn't have found out about OMM.
After 10+ years of being told "No" because chiropractors are not covered by insurance, I thought my spine would never get fixed.
But because of you, I was spurred on to find a DO in network that does OMM/OMT.
Sure enough I found one, got the Green light from my GP.
Now after 2-3 months, with just 4 treatments, my spine is roughly 55 - 60%
Better.
Just want to say thank you, because even though you don't know me.
You have helped me in ways I never thought anyone would.
A D.O. resident delivered my 2nd child (military hospital) and I was SO thankful I got him because my pelvis dislocated during pregnancy and he could put it back in! #EhlersDanlos
You're a pretty shitty human being, why would you have children knowing that they have a chance of inheriting Ehlers-Danlos syndrome and suffering because of it? You only think of yourself.
I'm sorry to hear that happened to you. Glad you had the right people around you.
On a side note, my daughter has EDS. It's been a ride figuring it out and waiting on a visit to the geneticist.
@@kiyoponnn Dear Infinite Judgment. First of all, she may have discovered she had EDS after having children. A patient of mine was only diagnosed in her 50s, when her daughter figured-out she had it. And if the OP did know - have you never heard of IVF? People with all kinds of conditions are able to have children without the risk of passing on the condition, by genetically testing and selecting embryos without the disorder. And BTW, my patients with EDS, though they have challenges, are still glad to be alive. Your post was infinitely short-sighted.
@@Lionforaday lol
@@kiyoponnn piss off with your eugenic bullshit
I really love that you pointed out the importance of bedside manners with a patient. Great video!
It's one of those factors that often overlooked when speaking of a doctors ability. We usually talk about knowledge but if you can't relate to your patient or get them to understand their illness/treatment knowledge sort of becomes useless =/
Absolutely!
Cassidy i LLLLOOOVVEEEDD my DO for that exact reason. Unfortunately, for health reasons, he had to retire and I refuse to go to the MD. I see the PA, now. WAAAAAAHHHH!
What are bedside manners ??? Can someone explain please
Horror Monster Bedise manner refers to how a doctor behaves, communicates, and interacts with their patients. If a doctor has a good bedside manner they will be friendly, kind, caring, understanding, take time to listen to the patient without rushing them, and show genuine empathy towards the patient. However, a doctor with a poor bedside manner could be arrogant, dismissive, overly abrupt, condescending, spends little time with/rushes the patient, shows a lack of empathy, and doesn't listen to the patient and their concerns.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video, Dr. Mike! I was recently accepted and will be attending V.C.O.M. in the fall of 2019. I am so excited to start my career as a physician! I am always hearing different stigmas of D.O.'s and M.D.'s but in my opinion, like yours, the difference is becoming so small between the two that it really makes no difference. We are all learning to treat the patient behind the disease and that is what counts at the end of the day rather than the letters behind the name. As some of my mentors have said, "treat the patient, not the monitor".
I hope that means you’re finishing up med school now ! I hope it all went well for you ☺️
As a european, this was really instructive. I was certain that DOs weren't actually medical practitioners but you just proved me wrong
osteopathic medicine, not to be confused with osteopathy
Do keep in mind osteopathic medicine is unique to the USA. Foreign osteopaths are not the same as osteopathic physicians.
In the USA:
DO = "Doctors of Osteopathic Medicine" (whereas MD is "Doctor of Allopathic Medicine" or just "Doctor of Medicine")
DO = MD + OMM
Outside of the USA:
DO = "Diploma of Osteopathy"
MD =/= Osteopath
you could have used google really if that was such a field of interest to you.
Giiiiiiiiiiiirl....... If he cracked my neck or whatever I'd probably propose. Who the hell am I talking to?
Best comment ever! lmao
@@avirao7580 are they still together?
@@ananya_upadhya Clearly
Had a long time chiropractor who always did that, though it was heavy on using things like heat packs to relax the muscles as much as possible before beginning the realignments. He'd always refer to it as Popcorn, and then tsk tsk you after for it meaning you haven't been properly moving your body, and likely have been slouching haha. It was always intimidating for me as it's so damn abrupt and hard. But then that meant I could never truly relax, having my muscles always maintain a slight tensity.
Lmaoooo
Watching this after the FIGS ad about DO’s in the pink scrubs
DOs students are less competitive, and usually take the DO route when not able to achieve admission into MD school. This stigma persists throughout each step of their career
Doesnt mean they cant be great clinicians tho!! But their training is usually less than MDs
@@bruceylee8670 this couldn’t be further from the truth!! DOs and MDs have the same exact training except DOs have additional training in the musculoskeletal system. The NBOME (DO) and ACGME (MD) actually just merged this year. Watch the video lol.
@@collinssmith872 The merger is for post graduate (residency) training. DO and MD schools are not accredited by the same body.
There are differences in opportunities and training prior to entering residency, otherwise PDs would not be biased against DOs.
If you look at top residency programs, there are generally no DOs
@@bruceylee8670 in July this year, the first step of the merger means 1) that step 1 is now pass/fail which is taken between years 2-3, not post grad, and 2) DOs can get into any MD residencies and MDs can get into any DO residencies. My dad is a DO neurosurgeon, I also know another female DO neurosurgeon, a DO cardiovascular surgeon and many other talented physicians/surgeons that are DOs in what some would call “MD positions.” They’re all physicians. All capable of providing quality, evidence-based care.
@@collinssmith872 Yes you are correct, Im not arguing that DOs cannot be great clinicians, as demonstrated by your father and his colleagues.
I am saying that it would be disingenuous to state that statistically DO students have the same # of opportunities as their MD counterparts, as many PDs at top research institutions unfortunately still favor MDs over DOs.
With the merger, this could potentially relegate DOs to more primary care specialties (nothing wrong with that).
Maybe your father and his colleagues trained at previously AOA residencies
I will be getting my DO in a few short months and that was a FANTASTIC comparison of the differences. I love that you explained the similarities are too numerous to mention. 90% of the doctors I worked with during my 3rd and 4th years were MDs.
Hi Dr. Mike! I work for an EMR company. As a product trainer, I am expected not just to know how the software functions, but also about the medical industry. I wanna thank you for making such amazing videos. Although I don't directly work in the field of medicine, I like to keep myself updated with what's happening. And I wouldn't be exaggerating if I said I can rely on your videos. This video, for example answers a question I have had in my mind forever. And no, Google doesn't help! 😁 Thank you!
OH MY GOSH!!!! I've been watching your videos all this time and had no idea you were a D.O.! As a third year osteopathic student this makes my little OMS heart happy
Doesn't it say "D.O." on his shirt sometimes?
Lifthil Not until quite recently. This was 2 years back when he was still new and not everyone watched his Premed video.
Hey how's it going?
@@vedangbandekar9843 going well. Officially in residency
@@JobiWan144 either way, when I see a doctor, especially a popular one I assume an MD
Dr. Mike, I couldn't agree more. My women's health doc is a D. O. I was blessed with having her for both of my pregnancies, which were high risk. Furthermore, she found my cervical cancer very early on. She did a phenomenal job!
Hi. Could you please share the doctor’s name? I’m interested in going to her career path as well)
Dr. Mike: "low-risk, conservative measure"
Also Dr. Mike: *snaps her neck*
Omg I could not do that neck cracking thing .. that’s scary as hellll
Don't worry, the doctor does most of the work.
I've had it done to me, and while it looks scary, it doesn't feel that way. Similar to cracking your knuckles, but it's your neck instead (idk if that's actually what it is, that's just what it feels like).
If you were the patient you wouldn't do it. The physician does it to you.
@@Evan.the.Butler that's exactly what it is. Theres no actual cracking going. Its what we call a cavitation which is a release of gas, same as your knuckles and also feels amazing when you have neck pain.
THANK YOU FOR THIS!! I'm a DO student in Texas and people really need to know that there are not too many differences at all and that a DO is not the same thing as a chiropractor. Most importantly, DOs and MDs want to and have the same skills to provide the best care for their patients!
but...its objectively easier to get into a DO school.
@Nemo Nai , actually I have tried and successfully graduated from MD school. The most competitive applicants will always go MD..dont fool yourself.
@@bruceleehiiiyaaa , no, not always. You would be surprised. People have many reasons for their choices, from cost to location. As the degree distinction becomes less relevant for careers, these other factors (location, cost, spouse) become bigger deciding factors.
bruceleehiiiyaaa you sound like one of those little snots who still hangs onto their GPA and MCAT scores, assuming you’re not lying about yourself. Even then I’d never want to be your patient.
@@PhoenixRoseYT you guys are all so butthurt lmao. if you guys think a DO is equally competitive for the higher end specialities like ortho, derm , neurosurg, IR, rads, etc. you are fooling yourself. with the ACGME/AOA merger coming up for residency spots, i look forward to it being standardizes so we can fill all those spots with the best candidates (and if i had to bet, it would be on US trained MDs)
I’m a BI developer for a university hospital... my focus is primary care and we are seeing more and more DOs (we have also implemented sports med, and “exercise as medicine” programs). I have so much respect for the doctors I support 💕💕
1:10 Well if someone did that to me, I think my head would full on detach and remain in their hands. I flinched watching that tbh lol
I thought he was going to finish her off with that move 😩😩
Fantastic video!! So clear and concise - your videos keep getting better! We don't have any DO training programs in Canada and I was never clear on the difference!
I wish we did!!! I love the DO philosophy!
Violin MD wow you're here too XD I also love dr Mike channel besides yours.. you both are amazing
Keep it that way, Canada. Don't let woo-woo spread. The idea that the body can be cured by manipulation has never been proven in any scientific journal and is essentially woo-woo.
@@Avaldemon You can't make a statement like that with no evidence. There are many recorded cases of OMT/OMM helping people with back pain, etc. Please do some research
@@Avaldemon Doesn't take a specialist to understand that manipulations of the skeletomuscular system can improve, at the very least, functioning of that same system. And as someone who has received manipulations before, I can testify that they're not magic or cure-alls but they do what knowledgeable and responsible physicians use them to do.
I just made an appointment with a DO, but I never heard of one before so I wasn’t sure. I’m glad to hear they are the same as an MD! And it’s interesting that they have that holistic approach, I actually like that. I don’t like doctors who don’t spend time talking to you and just assign medicine without even caring/remembering your current medical problems. Since a DO cares about the whole body, I imagine he will take everything into account. The DO I made an appointment with has such good reviews too I’m really looking forward to my appointment now. Thank you for the video!
After md we can do surgery
@@spandugowda6749 Many DOs become surgeons
I had always wondered what the difference between the two were. I've been treated by both and didn't have a problem with either.
I started DO school as a second career when I was 36. As a NYC paramedic my favorite ER was one which was all DO run. I didn't even know what a DO was at the time but they impressed me so much I only applied to the school they all went to, NYCOM now NYITCOM. I've been an ED attending now for 8 years and very happy. Liked your video, Dr. Mike.
My dad is an general/family medicine MD who works with DOs. He used to supervise a lot of DO students, too. They seem to get along quite well. There are benefits to both, I think.
Thanks for this clear and concise explanation! My grandfather, Dr. Philip Greenman, was a well known DO who did a lot to increase the credibility and acceptance of osteopaths. He also created many of the OMT techniques and principles that you use. Thanks for continuing on his legacy of quality holistic medical care and spreading awareness of the field.
My man out here decapitating people. We'll let it slide tho, we'll let it slide 😍
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I will never trust another person enough to let them snap my neck like that. The survival instincts are too strong. Might as well be trying to shoot an apple off my head with an arrow. Nope.
Wow, I've never head of a DO before. I'm Australian, all our doctors are what you described as MD. Here, an osteopath is more like a philosophically-different chiropractor. Maybe we should get DO's as well, sounds like we'd benefit from them.
Same here in Brazil :(
@Zenon Ingalunda got it, thanks! I wish there were universities offering DO degrees in Brazil too.
In the US, Chiros are a completely different thing - much less regulation, some good ones but many are not. Like MDs, DOs have hospital privileges. I've never met a Chiro who has been allowed to practice medicine in a hospital or medical clinic. A DO is the best of both worlds, IMO.
they're the same here
@@excalibur800 incorrect you do not understand licensure or pathway thank you for your time but wrong
Doctor Mike is the only youtuber I look forward to watching everyday
Oh wow 😳. Wish didn’t read most of the comments here. So many hating on DOs. What’s the problem? DOs are licensed and legitimate doctors too who can help and treat people and save lives. Unless you’re in the business of doing the same, I think you should just take your hate elsewhere. It doesn’t help anyone!!
My Dr. is a D.O. GREAT Dr. Provides excellent care!😊
Fans Of Dr Mike I love DO. My all time favorite doctor is a DO she’s a Great listener and communicator. I am having such a hard time finding another like her.
My sports and spine doctor is also a D.O. he is a GOD send😇 I get full body adjustments with no snap, crackle pop. I mostly see him for Parsonage Turner's Syndrome/brachial neuritis something I wish I knew nothing about. All alignments are done with muscle movements. His name is Anthony West @ swedish sports and spine in Seattle/Issaquah. Miracle worker. 🙌🙌🙌 I love 💓 my D.O. he's the best hands on doctor I've ever had. His approach is like no other doctor I've seen. I've seen lots since being rear ended by an 18 wheeler. The PTS is by far the worst pain I've dealt with and my D.O. puts my ribs back in place with such ease. Physical therapy was grueling....D.O. is much better.
I can bet you it's because of the "Holistic" attachment. So many hardcore pro-conventionalists hate anything that seems remotely naturalistic and homeopathic, meaning holistic medicines to them are just as "hippy bullshit" to them.
My primary care provider is a DO, I get great care, and she is a great listener and communicator. As long as people get quality medical care I don't give a damn.
I went on a tour of an osteopathic medical school and fell in love. I was able to see students practicing OMT and also see state of the art technology used to train students. Becoming a DO is definitely one of my bigger career paths but I still am unsure of what route I want to take. This video was great!
I've been a DO for 25 years. My colleagues and I helped open doors at top residency programs.
TheBalls55 goals!
I didn't know they still employed doormen.
As a future DO student, our generation is greatly thankful for your contribution in evening the playing ground between DO and MD
You should’ve went to the Caribbean and got the MD
@@Gamebreaker08 No thanks
I sling coffee for a living an a DO-med student has fixed my sacrum, my back, and even helped me figure out how to adjust my shoes so my sacrum does not bend out of place and hurt.
My OBGYN is a D.O., and she is the best! After years of complaining about symptoms to my PCP, I went to her for help, and she was able to get me the diagnosis that I’ve been waiting forever for, and get me set up with an appointment with a specialist in the clinic that treats my condition. I owe her so much after the amazing care she provided, and how she was the first physician I’ve ever had that made me feel heard.
Woof, reading the comments here I feel like people either didn't watch the video at all, or they are so biased against DOs to begin with, they refused to listen to what you were saying.
I might suggest making a follow-up video where you further clarify some of the finer points for the mouthbreathers in the comments who evidently couldn't follow a simple, 4-minute video to begin with.
To clarify:
-Holistic =/= homeopathic. "Holistic approach" and "scientific approach" are NOT mutually exclusive.
-Chiropractry =/= OMT, and OMT is something that a lot of DOs don't actually end up using in their day to day practice. Psychiatrists/pathologists/orthopods/ER docs/most other specialty DOs are likely going to be pretty indistinguishable from an MD in the way that they practice. Also, DOs do not believe that spinal manipulations "cure cardiovascular disease". I think that point became a bit muddled in your presentation.
-DOs are board certified physicians, just like MDs. And if a DO chooses to apply to ACGME residencies, they take 2 tests, both the COMLEX and USMLE, extra work they are taking upon themselves to be more competitive (but as you said, this whole system will merge by 2020).
-Yes, DO schools do tend to accept more non-traditional students with slightly lower average test scores, but this doesn't speak to the rigor of the education that they provide to those students. DOs go through 4 years of med school, and 3-7 years of residency (+ fellowships) just like MDs. The osteopathic process weeds out students who are not "cut out" to practice medicine, just like the allopathic process.
-Most people have probably been treated by several DOs throughout their life without even realizing it. If you've ever been to the ER, or a walk-in clinic, this is probably especially true. But guess what? Your OBGYN, your dermatologist, your orthopedic surgeon, your anesthesiologist, maybe even your neurosurgeon may very well be a DO.
If you want some real insight into the "quality" of your physician, ask where they did their residency. The letters behind their name are not an automatic indication of their quality or abilities.
Some great MD schools graduate some mediocre physicians and some mediocre MD schools create some amazing physicians. The same can be said about DO schools as well.
well said.
I'll agree to everything you've said but OMT is straight-up pseudo-science.
sciencebasedmedicine.org/osteopathy-in-the-nicu-false-claims-and-false-dichotomies/
ClassyKites34 wrong and wrong and wrong.
No - only in the USA. The rest of the western world, we recognise that suggesting that osteopathy, which is pure pseudoscience, can treat Congestive Heart Failure, is pure bunkum and outright quackery. That's why we don't let osteopaths have the same positions as MDs, and we don't let naturopaths act as GPs. Because they practice things that at best are purely placebo and at worst are downright dangerous.
Solliel, upon reading the article you have so kindly provided for everyone I realized that we should question the authors ability to reason with his own words. He even gives us a scientific study! And even states that there have been lots of studies done just like it so it wasn’t really special because they all had the same results. Then, this doctor immediately says that it’s a pseudoscience. I’m confused as to how someone can present evidence, present results, state that it’s repeatable and has been repeated, and then say that it’s bullshit. Ya ever heard of someone named... ken ham. He does the same thing with creationism. These kinds of people at the front of science are dangerous! You cannot ignore the evidence! Come on man.
Currently we live overseas in a country that does not have a DO degree. However, before we moved my favorite dr we took our girls to was a DO. I remember she took time to talk about all of my questions and concerns. She also had a different growth chart for my daughters since I was breastfeeding. I miss that growth chart because my oldest is now 8 and is the same size of a 12 year old! Will have to go see a DO when we are stateside this summer for a check up! Thanks for making these videos😊
Who came here after Dr. Mike’s recent video on Trump’s COVID diagnosis? Crazy how consistent this man is. He always gives the facts. He tells it how it is
Love this!! I am currently a first year medical student at an MD school and I don't think I fully understood how a DO education differed from an MD one until this video! I definitely fell victim to the old-school stigma that an MD education is better but I've got to admit that learning OMT and focusing on the holistic approach would be great aspects of a well rounded program. It's a little scary that I will have that many more students to compete with for residencies (Class of 2021- after the merge)
I know this was written 4 years ago but how was the residency match ?
PSA: Most MDs are also fans of "treating the patient as a whole".
I emphasized that point within the video. Also, this is a relatively new concept in M.D. education that was rightfully incorporated into curriculums within the last decade or so. Thank you for watching Dr. Strong.
“the good physician treats the disease; the great physician treats the patient who has the disease...” - William Osler. We quote William Osler all the time and he lived in the late 1800's. If you had stated MD's have a history of "paternalism" I would whole heartedly agree with you, we've radically shifted toward patient-centred care. But paternalistic medicine doesn't mean that physician didn't treat the patient as a whole.
But to suggest that MD training doesn't involve "treating the patient as a whole" is conjecture. There's a reason taking a thorough patient history including their social determinants of health is still emphasized in medical school. Can you please cite where you found that the incorporation of "treating patients as a whole" only occurred within the last decade or so?
YoursTruly we're leaving the long essays in the comment section in 2017, go make a response video or something
Happy New year!
Doctor Mike can you do a video on what you know about Caribbean medical schools? Like St. George’s University?
Koi Bee if you don't like the length of someone's comment I found a great life hack which is just ignore it and don't read it.
My "family doctor" is a Nurse Practitioner and I love her. I've never had an MD tell be to take supplements before. She told me to take CO-Q-10 to help with my heart issues (FYI I still have a Cardiologist)
So basically your saying, lets all chooses Dr.Mike as our doctor! :) Great communication skills, knowledgeable, good bedside side manners, and lots of experience. 😄 ❤️
Honey, he's not a doctor.
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He is a doctor. MD and DO are fully trained doctors who can practice medicine in all 50 states. There is just a slight difference in the degree they choose.
@@julian1259 Honey, he is a doctor. He's a qualified physician that holds a professional doctoral degree. That's a doctor....
Julian Do you want his UPIN (Unique Physician Identity Number)? We can give that to you. Non-doctors don’t have UPINs. Tho I seriously doubt he will give appointment to a d*ckhead like you.
@@julian1259 he is a doctor. Are you?
As a D.O. myself, it is always nice to see videos like this. I only went to D.O.s growing up, so I thought D.O. stood for doctor and I had no idea what an M.D. was when I was a kid. I went to PCOM and became a D.O. and decided to do an allopathic residency in psychiatry. I don't utilize any manipulation in my practice - neither did my family docs growing up, so it wasn't anything I was interested in, but it was fun to learn. I would say most D.O.s do not use any manipulation techniques in their practice, but we all emphasize the holistic approach to medicine.
Thanks for the support Dr. Lewis! Always nice to have a fellow D.O. in the comment section!
Sounds like your systeme is totaly différent then the French systeme ! I wanna know how many years you study ! Because for us it’s 7 years to become a general médecin then 4 to 5 years to specialize ! ( I ve always wondered what does do means thanks for the explanation )
Donald Lewis Why did you decide not to include manipulation in your practice if it is something Dr. Mike believes helps his patients over and above what non-DO physicians offer?
I did an allopathic (MD) residency since I wanted to be by my brother. Therefore did not learn any manipulation specific to my psychiatry residency. We don't lay many hands on the patients in my specialty :)
My husband is in his second year of DO school at PCOM! He loves it!
💗Love, love, love DOs! I've always felt that MDs treated diseases that occurred in human beings, whereas DOs treat human beings that happen to have diseases. I've worked with both, and will always choose a DO over an MD, if they are equally qualified.
Thank you for another info doctor Mike! This is so educational. People have to be aware of this. Have a great day!
Great video doctor!
I'm a European trained DO. Unfortunately, here in the EU, we don't have the option of being medically trained DO's.
But our comprehensive Osteopathic training teaches us how to identify and diagnose yellow and red flags, so the patient can be a 100% sure that a referral will be made if needed.
I was finally able to choose my own Dr again after so long with a military Dr. I chose a do and I'm hoping she can help me with all of my back issues!
Why I immediately subscribed:
1. You know what youre talking about and Its Inspirarional to pre-med students like myself
2. You are very handsome
3. Great Content
I'm preparing for NEET exam (medical entrance exam in India to get into medical College) .We have Physics Chemistry and Biology for our syllabus . While studying during breaks I watch Dr Mike's videos old or new. They are so informative, educational and entertaining at the same time.
Like Mike is literally a celebrity doctor who lives faraway in America still he's so down to earth. Seems like he's everyone's friend and just explaining cool medical stuff to everybody.
When I switched from an MD practice that constantly brushed off my symptoms for years and just attributed it to being an overweight female and switched to a DO run practice, everything changed for me. They got my condition properly diagnosed , medicated me properly , suggested some holistic wellness practices and my life changed. Lost the weight, the migraines and the fatigue just like that ✨
You just made my Sunday brighter, buddy! You're the best doctor I know! You are the man...and my best friend!👍👍🙌🙌
Thanks Maurice =]
Doctor Mike You're welcome, Mike. I mean it. 👍👍
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Doctor Mike Happy Halloween, buddy!🎃👍👍
instead of ‘buddy’ I read ‘daddy’ and I was like same
I don't know why this showed up on my feed but I'm glad it did.
For over 40 years I had as my DO doctor, Dr. John Qualter. He was always spot on in his diagnoses, and he was completely interested in the personhood of the patient. He was regularly listed by Castle-Connelly as one of the best family physicians in New Jersey. As a result, I learned firsthand that Dr. Varshavsky’s explanation in this episode is correct and fair. Thank you, Dr. Mike for this post!
I can tell by watching your videos that you would actually be a good husband for several reasons.
1) you don’t act selfish
2) you seem to be very reasonable and consider several points of view
3) you are respectful of other people’s opinion even when you disagree
4) you are very Knowledgeable
Most people on here who have such a negative perspective on D.O obviously have no experience with D.O doctors. My father who went to TCOM, a D.O school in Texas, is one of the best doctors i know. I grew up not knowing that there was a distinction between a D.O and a M.D because i just saw him as a doctor. Most of his friends are M.D (from the best medical school in our state) and they give him mad respect because they know what a great doctor he is. In addition, TCOM stats are just as good or even better than some M.D schools in our state, so don't make assumptions that all D.O doctors or school are crap. I know many D.O who have done great on their STEP and got into competitive residency (the same ones those "M.D" gets into). Those M.D who look down upon D.O are probably slightly insecure and in need of someone to feel superior to. I question some of ya'll motives for becoming a doctor if two letter can prevent you from being a doctor. In the end you can say all you want but D.O are just as successful as M.D, they get the same residency, and the same future so suck it haters.
I'm a RN in an ED and my favorite doctor in the department is a D.O. Great attitude, and all around awesome to work with. Much respect to both M.Ds, and D.Os
Doesn't fucking matter what the letters stand for. It's who can cure me. Plain and simple. I feel like doctors just wait for me to be in the ER. That's their common mindset. If you're not going to die yet, don't even bother to us.
this comment is a year old but dam, well say 👏🏽
Thank you so much for doing this video. As European I had no idea that in the United States osteopaths were actual doctors, since in my country (Spain) they certainly are not. Now I feel like it's really unfair that D.O.s aren't allowed to practice medicine in Spain, they could perfectly pass the validation exam.
Now I can explain my friends the difference betwen an European osteopath and an American Doctor in Osteopathic Medicine.
*FROM NYC here and My wifes OBGYN for during her 2nd pregnancy was a DO we loved her. She seemed to care more about what my wife was going through and (not because she was a woman.) Plus she wasn't always trying to get us in and out..she took her time.I myself want a DO now. Been looking for one*
You snapped her neck and she laughed??!?!?! Freaking skynet!!!!!
Having an arrythmia and I'm here to hear a doctor's voice for comfort. Peace and good vibes.
Thanks for making Sundays even better!!! ❤❤
I saw an MD once around age 17 because my former doctor had moved. I HATED her. She was completely dismissive and rushed me out of the office. After that I started seeing DO's only. I love that they don't rush you out and spend time discussing everything and really listen to you. I've only had an issue with one, and that was simply because I was the last patient of the day and while waiting for the nurse to get the results of the A1C check, he left for the day and didn't even tell me or anything.
Good job helping us understand the difference, my current primary care is a DO. I'm 63 years old and my DO has provided me with the best care I've ever had in my life. I'm sorry to say he doesn't perform OMT, I wish he did.
Over the years, I have had both MDs and DOs for my primary care. My current PCP is an MD and I'm very fortunate that he is a believer in the holistic approach. But what I came here to say is that, on average, I have felt more valued and respected by DOs upon first or second meeting than I have with MDs. It feels a bit like the difference between an auto mechanic or body shop versus someone who restores classic cars. Both of them want a similar outcome, but their approach and mindset are often different.
TLDR-
MD: Doctor
DO: Doctor
I have always appreciated Doctor Mike, but I stopped watching his videos for a while. Right now I am trying to decide my career in the medical field and when I saw this video explaining DO's, I figured it couldn't hurt. I also assumed Dr. Mike was an MD... But when I saw the DO after his name on his scrubs, I flipped my shit. I have gained a new found respect for this man. And now I am seriously considering DO school. Thanks, Dr. Mike!
I started nursing school 2 weeks ago and I love it!!
He didn’t love this comment but loved the ‘I love your face’. Cool. I hope t goes well
Doctor Mike I must say you have some amazing content on your channel.. I'm glad I came across your page... Im sure in the future my channel will pivot and have more science/medicine related content ... your channel is GOAAAAALS! lol. keep it up!
You're going great!
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My grandma is a retired DO.
My late grandpa and her were actually lab partners When they were at Osteopathic college. Play later became the main doctors in a small town in northern Missouri, we’re basically the entire town saw them as their primary care physicians And they even helped vaccinate the kids in that town for polio When the vaccine first came out. My grandpa was also an OB/GYN.
I’m European and still confused by this. So confused.
Lol America is confusing imaging being s DPT or a DOT
We didn’t have woo woo alternatives to MDs in places like France or the UK. Having said that the DOs are now essentially MDs. They have started teaching and practicing actual medicine. Only real difference now is the letters following the name, and DOs stillest learn the largely woo woo art of “adjustment”.
As a Canadian I am confused by this lol
DO bsc MD msc . High doctor shortage in us so they made a bars lower and got fancy name. Still MDs are the real doctors.
Hello fellow europian
This was affirming to watch! I’m starting as an OMS1 in August, and I’m looking forward to my training! I’ve always wanted to be a doctor. And I can’t wait to DO just that!
My current and previous Primary Care Physician are both DOs and I didn’t even know that there was a difference between DO and MD, but it’s nice to know that in reality they’re similar
Thank you so much for this video! I appreciate your information regarding the DO journey. I am a huge believer in a holistic approach....great video!
Just found your channel and subscribed. I'm an OMS 1 and loved your personal take on the differences and similarities :)
My new primary care doctor is a D.O., and so far I really like them! Our first appoint was very long but I felt a lot more listened to than at my old pediatric doctor.
Thank you for representing DO's!! You rock!!
All of a sudden i broke my leg watching this video😩
+QueenLee sounds like you need a Doctor :)
Limitless Tv no its ok he can be my doctor
That's he
Sounds like you need some physical therapy after a doctor sets that bone :)
I think Mike broke that girl's neck too
I've had incredible good luck with DOs. I have a complex neuro/ortho issue that chiro and other adjustments can't be applied, but the philosophy behind DO training, i feel, has allowed my drs to better treat my issues
1:11 i was scared for the woman
So very well said. I work in an ortho group and we have DOs and MDs and it is very interesting to try and explain it to people. Most of the DOs we have are pcp sports medicine non surgical but we do not have one that does OMT in our group. It’s so interesting to hear you speak because I know a lot about the residency dynamic in our practice
Mr. Mike I admire the work you put in to inform your patients and us regular people. You make learning health care fun. I didn't know the difference between MD OR DO until I saw your video. It makes sense to look for a DR that agrees with your same stance on health care. I know you mentioned that some MD perfer preventive first but not all. When I was pregnant I suffered depression along with other health issues and all my doctors first recommended was meds. I believe meds are important but they are not always the #1 solution. I perfer the holistic and preventive approach first. My docs would get fustrated with me when I didn't want to take it and I will continue to complain of certain issues. What scared me was the multitude of side effects that were risking my unborn baby and myself. Your videos help with looking for a DR that fits your needs and also to help the patient to communicate effectively to their doc. Sometimes patients walkin with an assumption that docs should know everything. Thank you for presenting docs in a very human light. Keep doing what you are doing your making a difference.
Very true!! thank you Dr. Mike. I have recently applied to both types of schools. Hopefully I am accepted to one of them. I actually prefer the DO route, like you said, I really find the holistic approach and OMT to be very crucial in treating a patient.
+W.D. Asencios Glad to hear a prospective from a medical student to weigh in on the conversation. Thank you and best of luck on your medical journey!
Do both D.O's and MD'S perform surgery
Yes!
My doctor is a DO. I am a nurse and I have complete faith in his medical knowlege. The bonus is I know he cares about me as a whole. I am also 61 and I know what I am talking about.
Dr mike, you should make a video on the difference of DO and Chiropractor. People think chiropractors are physicians and think DOs are chiropractors so you would definitely end some of the confusion and ignorance! Thank you!
My dad is a Chiropractor
So weird to see the difference between the UK and US medical systems, procrastinating medical student here 🙋🏼
My doctor is a DO and she is the best doctor I have ever had. She approaches medicine in a completely different way than my other previous doctors. She is caring, understanding, and most of all, she LISTENS to my concerns and acts accordingly to help me. My other previous doctors just questioned me or disregarded my concerns entirely.
Dr. Mike, two quick comments.( DISCLOSURE: I am an M.D. ) That being said I agree with 99 percent of this video. Point 1: D.O.'s trained more than say 20 years ago were often people who could not get into MD school and the DO programs were not as good as they are today...just maybe be leery about D.O's trained several decades ago or more....that being said I agree with the current view that recently educated D.O.'s are just as well trained as M.D.'s. Point 2: I am a family doc and my experience in residency was extremely wholistic in the approach to the patient, I think that just as D.O. training has gotten better over the decades, I think M.D. programs, especially family medicine, has become much more pt. centered and wholistic. So back off man ;)
All that being said I think you are a great guy and I enjoy your videos.
Doc, you'd be the perfect person to answer this question for me consider you're a fam med dr. Do you think its more worth it to become a PA if one was interested in fam med? It's cheaper and the programs are shorter, whats your opinion on the topic?
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This would help my mom so much if she could just get this done as part of a regular check up. Her doctor recommended getting adjustments after she was in a car accident, but she had to travel pretty far to find a chiropractor. Come to California, Dr. Mike!
Holistic approach
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Thank you for giving DOs the credit they well deserve!
My Dr is a Do she is so knowledgable and helpful and easy to communicate with
I'm currently a nurse, can you do a video on the difference between D.O and N.P, as a nurse we focus on holistic care and preventative measures with also a huge emphasis on the bedside manners of our patients.
DOs are physicians, NPs are mid levels. The training and schooling is different completely
That was very interesting and completely new to me. I'm French and we only have one "type" of doctors here. I was confused when you said what DO meant because, as you explained, in Europe osteopaths aren't medical doctors. I had no idea there were two ways of becoming a doctor in the USA. We know a lot about US culture here because it's everywhere in the media but this is something that I had never heard of. I love learning new things, thank you for that :)
A lot of US citizens don't know about it because DO's are a minority. Also, random piece of information about America. I have told people from other countries that New York is not the typical American city even though you may see it a lot in the media. If you want to go to a large American city that is more typical of other American cities, it is Chicago. For better and for worse.
Wow, ok. Thank you for the information ! :) That's funny, I have a friend from Chicago who said the exact same thing that you did. I do realize that New York is not representative of the USA, just like Paris is definitely not like the rest of France. This city is kind of like its own country actually haha That "for better and for worse" part was very dramatic :p I'm curious, what would you say are the main good and bad sides of it ?
AlwaysDreamable There are areas in Chicago that have more crime. You need to be careful in the South side of Chicago. That's kind of the way America is. Certain places have more crime than others. So, it is not like the whole country is dangerous. However, Chicago also has some great places. The University of Chicago is known to be a great University. The Art Institute of Chicago is also great. Also, what you said about Paris is basically what New York is to America. It is great, but it is its own entity.
Thanks for all the tips ! If I ever have the chance to go to Chicago, I will certainly use them. And I guess every country has places that are more dangerous than others. One should just be careful, no matter what country they are in.
AlwaysDreamable True that!