WHAT IF: The Yonko Had No Devil Fruit Powers? - One Piece Discussion | Tekking101

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  • @MugiwaranoTonyDStark
    @MugiwaranoTonyDStark 2 года назад +78

    When Whitebeard clashed with Roger in the Oden flashback it was simply a haki clash… No Devil Fruits were involved in that clash… So yeah, Whitebeard is DEFINITELY strong enough to be a Yonko without the Gura-Gura no mi.

    • @khrienvich4084
      @khrienvich4084 2 года назад +2

      Exactly

    • @Davidofthelost
      @Davidofthelost 2 года назад +4

      Pure physical power and Haki unlike anything we’ve seen and still yet to see again.

  • @alfredhinton8792
    @alfredhinton8792 2 года назад +510

    Kaido and big mom are immensely strong and durable. Whitebeard without the tremor fruit had ridiculous haki and strength.Blackbeard would’ve been killed by whitebeard at Marinford is his crew hadn’t finished him off.

    • @t84t748748t6
      @t84t748748t6 2 года назад +49

      big mom could defeat giants as a 5 year old whit out powers and white beards powers doesn't make him stronger just a good special attack but kaido i dunno howe much power the dragon fruit gives him zoan fruit user are stronger even when not transformed

    • @alfredhinton8792
      @alfredhinton8792 2 года назад +16

      @@t84t748748t6 the giants were fasting for about a week so they’re not 100% 😂 like hungry Luffy and zoro and full are different 😆

    • @DragonoftheDarknessFlame
      @DragonoftheDarknessFlame 2 года назад +54

      @@t84t748748t6 We see Prime WB and Roger clash with just Haki. He's a monster without his DF

    • @gangstagummybear3432
      @gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад +3

      @@DragonoftheDarknessFlame true

    • @tistakere5055
      @tistakere5055 2 года назад +35

      @@alfredhinton8792 big mom Was also fasting lmao

  • @nikofaershee4235
    @nikofaershee4235 2 года назад +83

    Psychologically speaking, Kaido and Big Mom rely immensely on their devil fruits for their reputation. Yes, they would be insanely powerful anyway, but just mentioning she can eat your soul and he's a dragon is huge part of why they cause so much fear

    • @msteerie
      @msteerie 2 года назад +7

      I mean judging by the fact we didn't know of Kaido's devil fruit until Wano I don't think he really does rely on it much, sure it would have helped his reputation a lot if people knew but no one really did, people were just scared of Kaido because he's Kaido

    • @ardel-4964
      @ardel-4964 2 года назад +2

      I don't think their reputation had anything to do with their fruit. No one was saying Kaido was a a dragon. They feared him because he was unkillable and was the king of the beasts. Big mom also wasn't known for that, she was just known for her hunger and how you need to go to her tea parties.

  • @asmmahfuz8569
    @asmmahfuz8569 2 года назад +135

    Before, they were simply called "Great Pirate". We have seen this during Oden's flashback.
    Kaido actually not only used normal observation haki multiple times, he also used future sight against Luffy.

    • @femthingevelyn
      @femthingevelyn 2 года назад +2

      he said he could use future sight, but I don't think we've actually seen him use it

    • @asmmahfuz8569
      @asmmahfuz8569 2 года назад +46

      @@femthingevelyn He literally dodged luffy's punches using future sight after he said he could use it

    • @tistakere5055
      @tistakere5055 2 года назад +6

      @@femthingevelyn he did it

    • @Gabrielzinho7891235
      @Gabrielzinho7891235 2 года назад +14

      He did, the background going black when he dodged Snakeman is a sign of future sight, Katakuri did the same

    • @andrejosue98
      @andrejosue98 2 года назад

      no, every Yonko is a great pirate but not every great pirate is a Yonko.
      a yonko is someone that rules the New world as an emperor.

  • @funkycheese6492
    @funkycheese6492 2 года назад +213

    Given their current skill in their haki and devil fruits, they would probably develop new techniques for armament, conquerers and maybe observation

    • @robertnelson9599
      @robertnelson9599 2 года назад +6

      Or just master all the advanced skills like Luffy has been doing. Maybe they would also make special weapons for themselves.

    • @confusedperson21
      @confusedperson21 2 года назад +3

      @@robertnelson9599 luffy is no where near mastering all his techniques hell kaido probably hasn't

    • @funkycheese6492
      @funkycheese6492 2 года назад +4

      @@confusedperson21 I think that’s what he was trying to say. That kaido would be able to devote more time to haki rather than (I imagine it is) awakening his devil fruit.

    • @confusedperson21
      @confusedperson21 2 года назад

      @@funkycheese6492 yes I do agree with that

    • @confusedperson21
      @confusedperson21 2 года назад

      @@funkycheese6492 also if you go with tekking's theory witch I do believe kaido started out as a fish when he got the fruit but when it awakened he got the dragon form and abilities

  • @therealetp1303
    @therealetp1303 2 года назад +364

    Hypothetically, if there were only 3 emperors, wouldn’t they be called the Sankou? And without Shanks that seems wrong.

    • @battlericky17
      @battlericky17 2 года назад +1

      I thought the same

    • @random.3665
      @random.3665 2 года назад +25

      Im wondering who will be considered an emperor after the wano ask is over. Will there be the same 4 + luffy (making them Gokou) or will one of them actually die (still yonkou) or will both Mig mom and kaido be no longer considered emperors (Sankou).
      I mean, that Luffy will be considered one of them after literally beating kaido is kind of a given at this point^^.

    • @NeutralGuyDoubleZero
      @NeutralGuyDoubleZero 2 года назад +3

      @@random.3665 if luffy ended up being one of the three remaining Sankou after this arc that'd be amazing lol

    • @TheRedAzuki
      @TheRedAzuki 2 года назад +32

      @@random.3665 Big mom still has her influence, so she still a power on the seas.
      Kaido effectively lost his entite influence these last few arcs. His beast army? Gone, his control over wano? Gone. Basically all his plans are lost. So Kaido himself is a powerful force but his influence over the world is lost.
      Big mom still got her family alive(her crew) and control over her countries and the underworld.
      So Luffy will replace Kaido and Big mom will still be around, cuz her defeat wasnt a ko but out of bounce.

    • @Broockle
      @Broockle 2 года назад +5

      The Gokou will get together without Blackbeard and announce their decision to make Imu a pirate emperor instead, declaring themselves the new world government.

  • @veniktonven.5651
    @veniktonven.5651 2 года назад +17

    As a person without a devil fruit and avid swimmer of water I can confirm newbie swimmers often lose an arm or even both. I praise Oda in this depiction of on the hazards of swimming.

  • @Grima-su6os
    @Grima-su6os 2 года назад +213

    Is it just me, or do Big Mom and Kaido especially feel... 'hollow' without their Devil-Fruit? Like, a huge part of how they fight and generally the way they handle things is directly due to that. It just feels wrong for them not to have it?
    But at the same time, without Devil-Fruits, they legitimately might actually reach the level Roger and Prime Whitebeard have considering they only have Haki to focus on. They really only have that way to increase in power, after all.

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 2 года назад

      Totland will automatically not be able to function the same way because Big Mom's Devil Fruit powers are integral to the way that she controls the country.

    • @kopkaljdsao
      @kopkaljdsao 2 года назад +45

      Big Mom gets her fruit by eating Mother Caramel. That's a key part of her story. If she didn't do it, she could have ended up as a world government agent.

    • @andrejosue98
      @andrejosue98 2 года назад +3

      @@kopkaljdsao She could still eat her but not get her power.

    • @gerald216
      @gerald216 2 года назад +5

      It would be interesting to see their growth without the crunch of a devil fruit. I feel kido would do better than big mom though

    • @Sorrykid01
      @Sorrykid01 2 года назад +9

      I do admit that without their devil fruits their threat level will drop significantly since they won't be able wield such destructive powers. They still have indestructable bodies. Keep in mind big mom still had that iron balloon body and kaido literally jumped 10,000 feet without using his devil fruit and still survived. I don't think they honestly could have improved their haki bc they seemed to have mastered it. All of them have had decades to improve their fighting styles. They all used the three types of haki (minus Blackbeard) at least at one point. Plus it seems like they all could use the advanced application of each too. Physically I think the yonko are each at their zenith. They aren't getting any stronger than what they are now if anything time and age would eventually make them weaker like the dying whitebeard. Their devil fruits just make things easier. Without em they would just take longer to destroy things.

  • @psychronia
    @psychronia 2 года назад +161

    Something I really want is a strong character with a Devil Fruit they don't even use for combat.
    Like, have Shanks eat the Party Party Fruit.

    • @ImTheOneWhoLeftItAllBehind
      @ImTheOneWhoLeftItAllBehind 2 года назад +26

      Can we point the fact that shanks got mihawk MIHAWK! To take a drink of booze this man has some sort of power and I refuse to belive other wise

    • @SuperGuldo
      @SuperGuldo 2 года назад +7

      booze booze fruit

    • @eldritch_whispers1654
      @eldritch_whispers1654 2 года назад +37

      I mean the best we have is like kineimon with the clothes clothes fruit

    • @anthonyamituanai7790
      @anthonyamituanai7790 2 года назад +1

      he already has a df the
      swim swim like michael phelps fruit

    • @develope3208
      @develope3208 2 года назад +1

      @@eldritch_whispers1654 To be fair Kineimon isn't a weakling, he could probably take on a villain like Lucci without much trouble

  • @devaune12
    @devaune12 2 года назад +40

    I think a worthy note is that he kinda did one-shot luffy at the beginning of the wana arc in his regular form, obviously luffy is much stronger now but luffy at the time was still technically considered strong enough to be considered an emperor himself.

    • @LegitSav
      @LegitSav 2 года назад +3

      The world government and other yonkos didn't recognize Luffy as a yonko back when Morgan spread that news around.

    • @devaune12
      @devaune12 2 года назад +1

      @@LegitSav not saying that he was actually, i only meant that he was strong enough to even be in talks about it at the time, which again makes the fact kaido so easily beat him in his "base" form noteworthy for the topic of the video

  • @Fourbasher61
    @Fourbasher61 2 года назад +11

    We've seen Big mom for a while without a devil fruit when she lost her memory. The way she handeld Queen without haki makes me think she is stronger than she is given credit for

  • @garbage_bin
    @garbage_bin 2 года назад +166

    Kaido without a devil fruit would just be dead considering that big mom feeding him the fruit saved his life at god valley

    • @YeahTheDuckweed
      @YeahTheDuckweed 2 года назад +25

      but like let's say he just...survived

    • @nickjohnson02
      @nickjohnson02 2 года назад

      @@YeahTheDuckweed then, his life would be a living hell being tortured for eternity by the world government

    • @skrishna3
      @skrishna3 2 года назад +13

      I don't think there was anything in the manga that said Kaido would have died if not for the fruit at God Valley. Big Mom merely states that on the day that Rocks crew fell in God Valley, she gave him the fruit which puts him in a life long debt to her.

    • @AlexT7916
      @AlexT7916 2 года назад +9

      @@skrishna3 She said her giving Kaido the devil fruit SAVED Kaido , which is why he was indebted to her

    • @msogaming2677
      @msogaming2677 2 года назад +1

      That’s actually a very good point

  • @WolfX48
    @WolfX48 2 года назад +62

    BigMom, Kaido and Whitebeard would have definitely still be at the strength of Yonko even if they didn't have their DFs. However they would have probably all gone down the same path of Shanks in the Haki spectrum, which would be quite boring for us the audience to see them fight. Oda is most likely intending for Shanks to have the strongest Haki currently, so if the rest didn't have their DFs the variety in combat would have been like "we already seen this to the audience". Now Blackbeard himself will most likely never have become a Yonko without the DF, he even stated himself that if he didn't find the Yami Yami no Mi he will have to give up his dream. It was basically important checkbox for him

    • @thecodingninjaisepic3561
      @thecodingninjaisepic3561 2 года назад +3

      shanks has a haki build, bigmom kaido and white beard specced into both, blackbeard put 95% of his skill points into the devil fruit skill tree

    • @WolfX48
      @WolfX48 2 года назад

      @@thecodingninjaisepic3561 LOL, haha yup RPG skill tree of One Piece

  • @jablue4329
    @jablue4329 2 года назад +21

    Considering the amazing feats of swimming we see from Rayleigh, Big Mom could probably still chase the Sunny.

    • @thecodingninjaisepic3561
      @thecodingninjaisepic3561 2 года назад +8

      bigmom with that butterfly stroke

    • @AlchemistOfHistory
      @AlchemistOfHistory 2 года назад +3

      If she went full speed in the water towards a ship, she'd basically be a (giant) human torpedo.

    • @Ashtonflorman1997
      @Ashtonflorman1997 2 года назад +6

      Don’t forget she fast on foot. She chased and caught up to Sanji rq. She’s a runner 🏃‍♀️

  • @davidowusu1184
    @davidowusu1184 2 года назад +30

    I think the concept of the Yonkou is overly simplified to simple combat ability. Of course it helps if you can solo an army, but what it usually means is that you have the requisite power (not just individual combat ability) to be considered a threat to any other ruling power.
    I think it helps to think of the Yonkou as nation states... A weak person commanding that power would still be considered a monumental threat. So I think with or without their devil fruits, the power the Yonkou wield would still hold

    • @mariofann9000
      @mariofann9000 2 года назад +2

      Yeah, Yonkou is a sort of Quasi-Political position, that is mainly achieved through power initially but sustained through influence and diplomatics. As no matter how powerful Kaido or Big Mom is individually, they can only be at one place at one time, which would leave any territory they have claimed prior defenseless.
      It's not to dissimilar from how Bounties in One Piece, while mainly acquired by fearsome and powerful pirates through power and conflict, are still just a portrayal of how big of a threat someone is to the World Government (Like Nico Robin getting a 80 million berri bounty when she was just an eight year old kid with little to no fighting ability).
      Of course, one needs some form of power to maintain both of these, but combat ability isn't the only form of power in the series. I mean, if someone had built Pluton for example, then even if the person in question is weak by themselves and has no combat ability, that is still an ancient weapon right there. It would be the equivalent of someone in our world owning a High Yield Nuclear Missle, you might be able to knock em' out in hand to hand, but if they fire that missle, then anything within that blast and fallout radius is pretty much doomed. (Dr. Vegapunk would be a good example of this, he doesn't sound like much of a fighter, he is arguebly one of the most influencial people in the entire world due to his technological prowess)
      Shanks is more of an outlier and is probably a Yonkou through his connections to the Gorosei and how he seems to know a lot about the world which people aren't supposed to know, making him a theoretical massive threath to the government if he made his knowledge of the world public.

    • @davidowusu1184
      @davidowusu1184 2 года назад +2

      @@mariofann9000 spot on

    • @davidowusu1184
      @davidowusu1184 2 года назад +2

      @@mariofann9000 I like to think of each of the Yonkou as a nation state with the commanders and admirals akin to having nukes of some sort. We can see the shift when Aokiji defects as the Government are kinda worried how they'd handle that

    • @yeeman9478
      @yeeman9478 2 года назад +1

      Buggy rn

  • @monsterking7676
    @monsterking7676 2 года назад +22

    Big mom without her devil fruit is an interesting question, because how much of her personality/the way she turned out had to do with her Soul Soul fruit and eating Mother Caramel and probably being influenced by her soul. For all we know she could have been taken in by the Marines, or at the very least have a much different personality closer to her amnesia state.

    • @kingd1216
      @kingd1216 2 года назад

      But is she never ate mother caramel would she not have been sent to Cipher Pol?

    • @monsterking7676
      @monsterking7676 2 года назад

      @@kingd1216 So yeah she would literally be working for the marines.

    • @kingd1216
      @kingd1216 2 года назад +1

      @@monsterking7676 well yeah, but there's a clear difference between working for the marines and being a member of cipher Pol, Like the training,

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 2 года назад

      @@kingd1216 It doesn't matter the specifics, because Mother Caramel was selling children to the Marines and that probably includes Giant children and we've seen Giant Marines.

    • @kingd1216
      @kingd1216 2 года назад

      @@LupineShadowOmega the marines don't indoctrinate people into their organization as children, and if mother caramel was kidnapping giant children and selling them off someone would noticed, giants aren't stupid

  • @Impossibly-Possible
    @Impossibly-Possible 2 года назад +12

    She was strong enough to eat that woman and her devil fruit at 6 years old.

    • @thomasdahlberg5920
      @thomasdahlberg5920 2 года назад

      Well, we don't know how physically strong mother caramel was. She seemed to mostly rely on her devil fruit power and never physically fought anybody.

  • @spincitycyrus7462
    @spincitycyrus7462 2 года назад +24

    I remember a few years ago when there were theories of Shanks having the Time-Time Fruit because of how quickly he got to Marineford😂

    • @thomasdahlberg5920
      @thomasdahlberg5920 2 года назад +3

      How would being able to go forwards in time help you get somewhere faster? Toki literally said that was the only ability it had.

    • @alejandroseal3513
      @alejandroseal3513 2 года назад +6

      @@thomasdahlberg5920 I heard people saying that he could have a different fruit allowing him to stop/slow time, or maybe the awakening of Toki’s fruit allowing him to do that or go back in time.

    • @sinichi1987
      @sinichi1987 2 года назад

      It was that lucky have the fruit, becouse how he move vs the bandits, it was more that that fruit was is the red head crew

    • @DXDragon38
      @DXDragon38 2 года назад +1

      I remember that :)

    • @spincitycyrus7462
      @spincitycyrus7462 2 года назад

      @@thomasdahlberg5920 idk 🤷🏾‍♂️, also it wasn’t Toki’s fruit that people thought he had, she wasn’t even a character yet, so the rules of the fruit didn’t exist and so people believed that he could slow down or even stop time.

  • @thakidd5299
    @thakidd5299 2 года назад +49

    Hey Tekking!
    WHAT IF: Blackbeard Got The Yami Yami no Mi But Stayed On Whitebeard's Ship?
    (i.e. what if he never had to kill Thatch and didn't become a villain but got the fruit anyway)

    • @BaAl-Alex
      @BaAl-Alex 2 года назад +8

      great "what if" for a new video

    • @retrogamermax8287
      @retrogamermax8287 2 года назад +1

      I think Blackbeard didn't wanted to waste his time asking Thatch for the Yami Yami no Mi since he would likely say no which is why he probably killed him and didn't risk starting a fight with him giving out attention before he stole the fruit.

    • @BaAl-Alex
      @BaAl-Alex 2 года назад +5

      @@retrogamermax8287 but it's a "what if" he got it by asking politely, because [insert something that would make that happen]
      :D

    • @retrogamermax8287
      @retrogamermax8287 2 года назад +1

      @@BaAl-Alex I know but I'm just saying the likely reason Teach did it was because Thatch likely wasn't going to give it him if he asked and Teach wasn't going to take no for answer.

    • @crustybomb115
      @crustybomb115 2 года назад +2

      thats an interesting what if scenario... but i personally think that he wouldnt really be able to get anywhere without the yami yami no mi... or any devil fruit for that matter... whats he gonna do? break off of the white beard crew most likely without backing splinter group with him?

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 года назад +3

    I can see Marianne Ms. Goldenweek being a yanko in this timeline

  • @scizoreon4068
    @scizoreon4068 2 года назад +12

    If Thatch never found the fruit I assume Blackbeard planned to stay with Whitebeard until it became clear that his (or Marco's) crew was no longer the strongest and then joined up the new strongest and then repeat until he found what he was looking for

  • @lordvaust5830
    @lordvaust5830 2 года назад +15

    Quick take; if the Yonko (aside from Shanks) didn’t have devil fruit powers, they’d be even more impressive because they’d still be crazy powerful and threatening without them (just like Shanks is).

  • @yhaliwaizman3190
    @yhaliwaizman3190 2 года назад +16

    Wouldn’t kaido be just dead? Big mom saved him by giving him his fruit

  • @gangstagummybear3432
    @gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад +9

    The flashback of the fight with whitebeard and roger shows what appeared to be a fight that didnt involve a devil fruit at all from whitebeard or roger, after all whitebeard was able to clash with roger with nothing but the haki on his weapon and roger with his, whitebeard is a pirate king candidate with or without a devil fruit, he simply didnt have a motivation to pursue the one piece treasure cause he didnt believe in it.

    • @piemaster831
      @piemaster831 2 года назад +6

      I don't think it's that he didn't believe in the one piece, he just wanted a family. He had already reached his goal.

  • @Teddy_Gautier
    @Teddy_Gautier 2 года назад +3

    I have to agree with you there Tekking. That one time Whitebeard hit Akainu with a quake fist to the face, especially in the anime, looked like it was a finisher. This man Shirohige shattered Sakazuki and this man walked away with a lot less damage than I thought he should have sustained. Maybe Akainu protected himself with armament haki, but still

    • @gangstagummybear3432
      @gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад +1

      maybe he turned his body into magma at the last minute, that would stop alot of the quake damage

    • @tevinvezina1766
      @tevinvezina1766 2 года назад +1

      Akainnu's brain literally got smashed, compressed, and twisted - He should've had some brain damage at the least lol.

    • @theenjeneer2792
      @theenjeneer2792 2 года назад

      @@gangstagummybear3432 whitebeard has haki though so it wouldn’t have worked

    • @gangstagummybear3432
      @gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад

      @@theenjeneer2792 Well maybe Akainu is alot stronger than we give him credit for, also, WB wasnt anywhere near full health, he had been stabbed multiple times, and his insides were charred by a magma attack, and half his face destroyed from a magma attack at the time he attacked Akainu, so it is very possible WB was highly weakened, like Vegeta after he was hit with the spirit bomb then came back, and couldnt figure out why his finishing move didnt destroy gohan goku and krillen, the fact he could do that to Akainu anyway in that shape, being way less than 100% from the start of the fight is more than a feat on it's own

  • @blodycrow11
    @blodycrow11 2 года назад +8

    If big mom didn’t have a devil fruit I see her swimming trying to catch the sunny, honestly I see all emperors ( except black beard) been emperors

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад

      I wouldn't expect her to swim as fast as she could fly, I don't think she would have caught wi the Sunny.

    • @RavenCloak13
      @RavenCloak13 2 года назад

      @@didack1419
      Well she is physically strong and without being able to rely on her Devil Fruit she would need to be stronger still. Hell, it could be the joke again that she burns all those calories trying to swim after the Sunny and I could easily see Oda doing that as the joke and reason why she could catch up. Hell, as someone else down below in the comments points out, Rayleigh is an amazing swimmer and he's still a "normal" human without a Devil Fruit power, just physical strength even at his age.

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад

      @@RavenCloak13 Yeah, I read that, I'm not certain that that would mean Rayleigh would catch up with the Sunny, but it could be that Oda thinks he would be a able. They can still use the coup de burst to get advantage, so unless she could *really* swim faster than she can fly, she would fall behind at least a little.

  • @ricardowurkatz2481
    @ricardowurkatz2481 2 года назад +9

    Hi Tekking,
    Just a small hint for Big Mom. If she does not have a Devil Fruit, she can just swim and reach the straw hats even faster I guess.
    BTW I am so glad I noticed it by my self. The video was so much fun to watch.
    Greetings from Berlin :D

  • @moonlight2870
    @moonlight2870 2 года назад +9

    Big mom would still be op as shit. She was strong enough to kill a giant at 6 years old.

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад

      He was a very old giant, I think it needs to be contextualise.

    • @cthpng9437
      @cthpng9437 2 года назад

      @@didack1419 its still a 6 years old.... even in context shit is ridiculous

    • @DisgustDAnime
      @DisgustDAnime 2 года назад

      i agree dude.........the woman is a force of nature DF or not, sure she wouldn't be able to fly without a homie, but she would still swim........let us not forget that the woman walked out of a hole (not climbed) she WALKED OUT OF A HOLE :D shame people keep underestimating her

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад

      @@cthpng9437 I know, it still should be said, because it's probably relevant that he was an old man.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool 2 года назад +24

    Luffy us the ultimate "NO SPOILERS" type of guy. Of course he doesn't know.
    Shanks is fine. Roger is fine. Shiki kaido and Blackbeard would be dead seeing them need the fruits to survive
    Whitebeard ane big mom are debatable depending on switching to haki style more so they could be fine overall.

    • @gangstagummybear3432
      @gangstagummybear3432 2 года назад

      Lol how are they debateable

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 2 года назад

      @@gangstagummybear3432 with how God valley went we don't know if they needed their powers to escape or not. Big mom would be In a weaker state and probably not sent down the pirate life by stroyven for her powers while whitebeard his allies would be dead unable to escape so the Marines would have captured them.
      Luffy would probably be dead much sooner in the story

    • @annette7037
      @annette7037 2 года назад

      why would blackbeard be dead?

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 2 года назад

      @@annette7037 ace. Whitebeard. Something else crazy that the Yami Yami saves him from

    • @annette7037
      @annette7037 2 года назад

      @@ivanbluecool but he wouldn't have betrayed whitebeard in the first place if he didn't get the yami yami no mi

  • @fuzzyhair321
    @fuzzyhair321 2 года назад +2

    Luffy now being a Zoan really helps how he survived impel down

  • @Ghasthund
    @Ghasthund 2 года назад +13

    Black beard is the most interesting because even without a DF he was still strong enough to nearly kill Ace in one hit, lifted Whitebeard off of his feet with an uppercut, throw massive boulders off of himself, scar Shanks while also receiving no noticeable wounds, and kill Thatch. Granted it seems like he stabbed Thatch in the back but that would require him to sneak up on a commander of Whitebeard's crew and attack him without being noticed through haki. He likely had other plans such as; "When Whitebeard dies I'll finally reveal myself as a new Emperor by killing the rest of the crew", "I'll just find another DF", or even "Wait until Whitebeard dies so I can eat the Gura Gura no mi". He likely had other plans and ways of becoming an Emperor, it just would've taken longer.

    • @KipC-Sway
      @KipC-Sway 2 года назад +7

      He did all of that with a devil fruit except for scarring Shanks(admittedly impressive) and killing Thatch which as you already said was probably a back stab and not actually a fight. He killed white beard by ganging up on him with his entire crew after Newgate had half his head blown off by akainu, a hole in his chest, and a absurd amount of wounds that got tallied up when he finally did die. Black beard is FAR from weak but compared to big mom or kaido he's not that impressive. His most impressive feat is how well his schemes pay off like they pay off really well hence why he's currently one of the strongest pirates alive and a yonko currently

    • @andrewortelli7631
      @andrewortelli7631 2 года назад

      @@KipC-Sway I agree Blackbeard's greatest strength is his intelligence, and ability to make long term plans that succeed.

    • @Nestle245
      @Nestle245 2 года назад +2

      Yeah but it was Whitebeards fruit that made him a Yonkou. Blackbeard being an anomaly with 2 fruits is why he's up there now, without them he wouldn't be nowhere near as powerful as the other Yonkou.

    • @Ghasthund
      @Ghasthund 2 года назад

      @@KipC-Sway ***without help from his DF*** as in he didn’t strengthen his attacks or body when he did those things.

  • @battlericky17
    @battlericky17 2 года назад +2

    Happy sunday everyone, i think it was called the “Sanko” 😂😂😂 OR the 4 of them came to a stand still and that lead them making the “Yonko”?

  • @RidleyKraid187
    @RidleyKraid187 2 года назад +14

    Do we know how long ago Captain John died? Maybe he was the fourth Yonko and then Shanks killed him. It'd explain why Shanks had John's treasure map in his possession.

    • @andrejosue98
      @andrejosue98 2 года назад +4

      Shanks did not have John's treasure, he lied and told Buggy he had it to get Buggy return the strawhat to Luffy

    • @krishnagodale3200
      @krishnagodale3200 2 года назад

      @@andrejosue98 It would be a classic Oda move though if Shanks actually did have it but just lied to Buggy that he lied about having it.

    • @lukedeakin7124
      @lukedeakin7124 2 года назад

      I'm pretty sure it was said John was killed by his own crew and that's why he has all those swords stabbed in him

    • @RidleyKraid187
      @RidleyKraid187 2 года назад

      Ok. It’s been a while since I’ve seen Thriller Bark.
      Even if Shanks didn’t kill him, he may have still been a Yonko and died around the time Shanks rose to power. I thought Shanks having the map (which… I guess was a lie, haven’t watched Marineford in a while either) might’ve given more credence to the idea, but the theory isn’t reliant on it.
      John’s notoriety, and particularly his immense treasure, do indicate to me that he’s among the more likely candidates for former Yonko. None of the other former Rocks Pirates seem to have much of a claim to fame, aside from the ones who became Yonko, and Shiki, who doesn’t seem to have.

  • @deluxemoonstarshinestudiop9158
    @deluxemoonstarshinestudiop9158 2 года назад +1

    Finally a what if video!
    Hay Tekking do more what if video you still have not done a what if video on big mom yet!

  • @Replica_Rabbit
    @Replica_Rabbit 2 года назад +5

    Big Mom would still have control over Totto Land without her Devil Fruit, her crew was able to take down kingdoms by themselves and she still have those Sea Snails

    • @daraghokane4236
      @daraghokane4236 2 года назад

      I think Kidos crew is mostly because he is strong Shanks and whitbeards crew would stand by them even if they get bedridden and weak Kidos grew would not Big moms would there family so he would be worst off. Luffy's crew would stand by him if he lost his fruit and could not fight

  • @NaroOnc3
    @NaroOnc3 2 года назад +1

    I love your GOAT fact's!! Keep up your fantastic work !

  • @larsnyman2455
    @larsnyman2455 2 года назад +6

    Big Mom still claps without DF powers, she’d probably be an admiral it Mother Caramel’s plan succeeded

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 2 года назад +1

      Or she would join the trinity of Garp's generation and they'd all be terrifying monsters that don't really fall in line with Marine ranks.

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад

      I don't think they would give the rank of admiral to a non-human, even if there are giants that are enlisted in the marines.

    • @sarov7658
      @sarov7658 2 года назад +1

      @@didack1419 she is human

    • @didack1419
      @didack1419 2 года назад +1

      @@sarov7658 Ha, true, I forgot for a moment. Although I don't think they would see it the same way. The difference is genetical, she still looks like she's probably a giant (even if a small one).

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 2 года назад +1

      @@didack1419 Not how that works. Especially in One Piece, where humans can be massive. Whitebeard was taller than Lin Lin and she's taller than Kaido. All of them are humans. As far as we know anyway.

  • @wustonrose7287
    @wustonrose7287 2 года назад

    I’m convinced tekking will never run out of ideas for videos

  • @EmperorKatakuri
    @EmperorKatakuri 2 года назад +17

    I'd like to point out maybe someone on big mom's crew would have the mythical fish fish fruit that Kaido currently has. If I remember correctly she gave Kaido that fruit save his life. So what's stopping her from giving that to one of her kids instead since she'd come across the fruit still while at growing up or am I overthinking it?

    • @leosvertexofyt2323
      @leosvertexofyt2323 2 года назад +3

      she came across it while on rock's crew, so it was probably before the children, you need to see how old perospero is, and subtract that from how long ago the god valley happened

    • @EmperorKatakuri
      @EmperorKatakuri 2 года назад +3

      @@leosvertexofyt2323 God valley was 38 years ago. Katakuri is 48 years old and perospero is 50 years old so it would totally be possible for one of them or her older kids to have inherited the fruit.

    • @az-xtion
      @az-xtion 2 года назад +2

      If she didnt have her soul2 fruit, imagine if she herself ate the fish2 fruit.

    • @pepsi-4275
      @pepsi-4275 2 года назад +1

      Big Mom stated "On the day Rocks fell, I gave you the mythical fish-fish fruit. You're indebted to me for life." She didn't say her or it saved his life.

  • @Treltake2
    @Treltake2 2 года назад +1

    always dropping bangers

  • @machina5
    @machina5 2 года назад +1

    1:24
    "Kaizaka oni, oray wuh nar"
    -Starhat Roofy

  • @ReclamKingDragon
    @ReclamKingDragon 2 года назад +23

    I mean technically, if Kaido never got the fruit he'd probably have been captured or unalived in god valley, therefore never making it to the level of Yonko because his career would've been cut short. In fact depending on how all of that went down Kaido, Big Mom, and Whitebeard might have never made it out of god valley. However them not having fruits may have even affected their place on Rock's crew at the time, it might not but who knows why those three specifically were actually picked up by Rocks, but hey that's just a theory, an ANIME THEORY!

    • @skrishna3
      @skrishna3 2 года назад

      Nothing in the manga says that Kaido was near death in God valley. Big mom herself only states that she gave him the fruit on the day that Rocks fell at God valley and that he owes her for life, as in a lifelong debt. Not "He has her to thank, for still being alive"

  • @jjgrueso7422
    @jjgrueso7422 2 года назад

    since now we are on goat facts, i have this obligatory thing to watch every tekking video from now on, man i love goats especially baby ones they are bouncy and cute as hell

  • @enumaelish9193
    @enumaelish9193 2 года назад +5

    Without his Devil Fruit wouldn't the scar Oden gave Kaido have just killed him?

    • @dio2599
      @dio2599 2 года назад +1

      Probably would have lived, barely

    • @enumaelish9193
      @enumaelish9193 2 года назад

      @daily top 10's That makes no sense. He had Haki when Oden scarred him anyway.

  • @eclipseslayer98
    @eclipseslayer98 2 года назад +1

    27:57 That'd be funny if Shanks blamed the scars on Black Beard, when it was actually Buggy who did it in an accident.

  • @Newworld-gk6us
    @Newworld-gk6us 2 года назад +3

    I always wonder how strong Luffy be without his devil fruit?

  • @lorenzo1728
    @lorenzo1728 2 года назад

    I have spent the last six days on the Italian alps amongst goats, and Tekking brings to me Goat Facts the very first day I have acces to internet in about a week. Lovely.

  • @UberVilla
    @UberVilla 2 года назад +3

    OH MY GOD
    remember when luffy regrew his tooth immediately after drinking milk,, everyone thought it was just for brevity and silly manga stuff,,,,, but NOW with luffy’s new powers, it makes so much more sense. couple the toon force he has with the heightened recovery of a zoan, and the even higher recovery of a mythical zoan, and it makes sense to actually happen

    • @Yking9977
      @Yking9977 2 года назад +1

      you see it wasn't just him who got his tooth fixed
      brook also healed

    • @kleinjadestar3223
      @kleinjadestar3223 2 года назад +1

      @@Yking9977 brook got healed because he was a skeleton so the calcium was all he needed to heal

    • @Yking9977
      @Yking9977 2 года назад

      @@kleinjadestar3223 exactly
      That itself proves it's a gag
      Because guess what
      BROOK CANT DRINK
      HE DOESN'T HAVE A MOUTH OR A DIGESTIVE SYSTEM

  • @Teag_Brohman15
    @Teag_Brohman15 2 года назад +1

    Whitebeard with no devil fruit be like:
    "get off my damn lawn you no good- ow my back"

  • @grayzoldyck7657
    @grayzoldyck7657 2 года назад +7

    You know, I think Blackbeards plan wasn't specifically to randomly find the Yami Yami no mi; I think it was to wait for Whitebeard to die so he could take his Devil Fruit with the hidden wish to get the Yami Yami no mi before that happend

    • @sanji2158
      @sanji2158 2 года назад +1

      Assuming that the yami yami no mi is not critical to drawing out and collecting fruit powers from dead people, maybe.

  • @jbeans121
    @jbeans121 2 года назад

    Tekking you are the goat.... I've been watching you since middleschool. You are just awesome dude. Thanks for the many years of good content and laughs, and to the many more to come!

  • @earthisadonut7213
    @earthisadonut7213 2 года назад +28

    The term "Yonkou" could just mean that there are 4 emperors of the sea. Before Shanks, there were 3 emperors, now with Luffy, there are 5 emperors.

    • @random.3665
      @random.3665 2 года назад +1

      Well, one of the current emperors might either die or basically get demoted (no longer considered an emperor). So it might be that the number will still be 4, with luffy being one of them.

    • @Aether_GM
      @Aether_GM 2 года назад +5

      The yonkou system is ending post-wano. There are no "replacements"

    • @NinjaSanji
      @NinjaSanji 2 года назад +2

      @@Aether_GM i like this idea

    • @tatsusama3192
      @tatsusama3192 2 года назад

      Gokou sounds weird, haha

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 2 года назад

      @@Aether_GM Luffy would be the replacement. He was already being called an Emperor.

  • @josepht4799
    @josepht4799 2 года назад +1

    Sees the video title... *Laughs in shanks*

  • @SagesAce
    @SagesAce 2 года назад +3

    Tekking, could pika Assimilate with poneglyphs?

    • @larsnyman2455
      @larsnyman2455 2 года назад +1

      I don’t think so, aren’t they made of Sea Prism Stone?

    • @SagesAce
      @SagesAce 2 года назад

      @@larsnyman2455 you are correct, i believe its a mixture of different stones and sea prism

  • @angel_1
    @angel_1 2 года назад +1

    23:00 Aokiji tried to freeze WB, but couldn't freeze vibrations so he got out

  • @therealetp1303
    @therealetp1303 2 года назад +4

    I think Shanks would be the king of the Pirates 🤨

    • @beburs
      @beburs 2 года назад

      Kaido be like 😂

    • @tistakere5055
      @tistakere5055 2 года назад

      Shanks probably can even now but hw probably doesnt want it

  • @ieatchips502
    @ieatchips502 2 года назад +1

    Man I love your humor and videos legit love it lol 😂

  • @mrnobody9988
    @mrnobody9988 2 года назад +3

    They would still be op
    Except for Blackbeard💀

  • @PodcastClippedYT
    @PodcastClippedYT 2 года назад +1

    White beard stopped one of the akainu meteors using his sword like a fork ..
    It's the scene of cake candles

  • @musicf3b
    @musicf3b 2 года назад +5

    They’d probably still be decent. BM is a natural disaster from birth. Kaido was good enough to be scouted by Rocks. And BB was able to scar shanks.

  • @jz-meister5343
    @jz-meister5343 2 года назад

    Gotta love the goat facts!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 2 года назад +3

    In regards to Shanks having a predecessor in office I could see Page 1 and Ulti's father being the yanko that came before Shanks

  • @waterslime9506
    @waterslime9506 2 года назад +1

    Tekking101 : What if... the yonko didnt have a devil fruit...
    Shanks : Am I a joke to you?

  • @SoundWave3214
    @SoundWave3214 2 года назад +1

    *Sees title*
    Laughs in Shanks.

  • @turtlebird-
    @turtlebird- 2 года назад

    I hope I'm not the only one who gets excited for the animal facts, especially Goat Facts.

  • @blaketesch7400
    @blaketesch7400 2 года назад

    Thank you for a great video guys

  • @Thisismvelo
    @Thisismvelo 2 года назад

    "Plan B -plan Blackbeard", sometimes tekkings says the most funniest things without noticing it😂😂😂🤞🏾

  • @frawdly
    @frawdly 2 года назад

    My favorite RUclipsr. Thanks for the videos.

  • @roloman3691
    @roloman3691 2 года назад +1

    what if shiki was an emperor before shanks, that would be quite fitting as it would be all members of the rocks pirates as the emperors

    • @trappyboi8678
      @trappyboi8678 2 года назад +2

      It has already been confirmed in the vivre cards that Shiki was an Emperor when he fought Roger and was devastated by the storm

  • @CadeDubsOG
    @CadeDubsOG 2 года назад +1

    The was a time when Whitebeard was a playable character in some games that involved a
    versus mode and they didn't make him use his devil fruit powers since Oda hadn't introduced them yet (he only had a brief invincibility mode), so fans assumed he didn't have them until the Paramount War started. I do remember it was quite a surprise when he used his power for the first time.

  • @Brandon-bo2wl
    @Brandon-bo2wl 2 года назад

    I'm loving the Nami painting in the background! Looks new

  • @ginnungagapabyss5639
    @ginnungagapabyss5639 2 года назад

    I would imagine big mom keeping her slim form, all of that training might keep her at a lean, and muscular figure like Yamato, but using a cloud sword with a flame dial. Maybe Mihawk can have her as a rival, he only cares about strength, and skill, I would imagine him not liking how big mom relies on the cloud sword abilities, but with all the years of training with both Haki, and the sword, it would most likely be a black blade, big mom always seem to be using Haki, on a scale that makes her almost invincible, now adding in her devoting years of training to evolve her Haki, and swordsmanship Mihawk would have a interesting rivalry with her.

  • @chedysouilhi7408
    @chedysouilhi7408 2 года назад +2

    i believe WB is the only one who won't suffer so much from losing his DF , on the other hand i see kaido , BB and BM being way too nerfed without them almost as naruto without kurama or 6 paths powers , all while shanks remains the wildcard in the group cuz we don't know much about him (as usual)

    • @LupineShadowOmega
      @LupineShadowOmega 2 года назад +1

      Child Big Mom was knocking out Giant Heroes. I'm going to disagree with you.

  • @yourgrandpabillyjohnson1888
    @yourgrandpabillyjohnson1888 2 года назад

    Love ya tekking!!!

  • @thecodingninjaisepic3561
    @thecodingninjaisepic3561 2 года назад

    you don't know fear till you see kaido backstroking towards you

  • @corydeblasio1475
    @corydeblasio1475 2 года назад

    A group of goats are known as a Tribe. Fun video again King!

  • @atamjotdhaliwal8604
    @atamjotdhaliwal8604 2 года назад +1

    Video idea 💡
    7 vs 1, all warlords vs any 1 yonko

  • @revenantronin8377
    @revenantronin8377 2 года назад

    What if the Yonko had no devil fruits?
    Shanks: oh, don't mind me...

  • @verzeihturncoat27
    @verzeihturncoat27 2 года назад

    Tekking: Big Mom would fall into water...
    Me: She could swim.

  • @KingJ101
    @KingJ101 2 года назад +1

    Happy Easter

  • @General_Li_Shin
    @General_Li_Shin 2 года назад

    As an engineer I can confirm, one only can ponder the manner of things while leaning back on a chair.

  • @loganmcgee18
    @loganmcgee18 2 года назад

    3:27 TekKing trying to set the Uo Uo no Mi art neatly 3:31 jump cut to it laying sideways haha

  • @pandoraspixel3367
    @pandoraspixel3367 2 года назад +1

    we already have an answer to this, Garp Was training his fast and crushing 8 mountains and with his basic armament haki alone, confirmed by the data books, he beat chin jao

  • @robertrosas5007
    @robertrosas5007 2 года назад

    White beard had the guru-guru nomi when he met Oden. That was literally the second thing he does on the shine.
    He blocks oden's swords then knocks him out with a shockwave punch

  • @BlackHawk3927
    @BlackHawk3927 2 года назад +1

    Blackbeard was also offered Aces position as 2nd commander too. So I think people might under estimate him

  • @MrMarinus18
    @MrMarinus18 2 года назад +1

    13:00
    I think it's influence that makes an emperor. They rule the new world. Almost everything in the new world either is under the protection of a yonko or is in active resistance against it. Almost nothing happens in the new world without the involvement of at least one of the yonko to some capacity. It's the reason why Mihawk is not an emperor. While he has a lot of individual strength he just doesn't have much influence or relevance outside of his one island.
    Also the emperors are strong enough to keep the world government at bay with power alone.

  • @AJUniverse
    @AJUniverse 2 года назад

    The way I see it, whether Blackbeard woulda become an emperor comes down to how completely we remove Devil Fruits from his story. If we just say he never found the yami yami, but everything else stays the same, I agree with you, but if we say that he never even wanted it, then I think he maybe still could've become a yankou. If instead of lying low waiting to find the fruit he had actually trained his body and his haki continuously, if he had spent that time being productive in his training, he might've become very dangerous sans fruit.

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 2 года назад

    Love the video keep up the great work tekking

  • @magegammer4879
    @magegammer4879 2 года назад +1

    I want to see a what if black beard stayed a war lord after getting white beards fruit

  • @sp00kie26
    @sp00kie26 2 года назад

    Ily tekking❤️❤️

  • @sterlingtheclumsysurgeon1656
    @sterlingtheclumsysurgeon1656 2 года назад

    The sorry to Barry made my entire day 😆😆😆

  • @lazarod8963
    @lazarod8963 2 года назад +1

    Tekking you should look into the African Pantheon. It would make an awesome video because there is a lot of similarities between death fruits and there creation story.

  • @thelastnpc00
    @thelastnpc00 2 года назад

    Ahh I checked right on time for the Tekking video of the day!

  • @wbkeef3144
    @wbkeef3144 2 года назад +2

    Blackbeard is underated because he takes double pain so his defense is probably crazy to be able to handle a direct attack from whitebeard so without the double damage it barely does anything

    • @anorganicpotato2729
      @anorganicpotato2729 2 года назад

      Why the double of damage?

    • @SnowyWolborg
      @SnowyWolborg 2 года назад

      @@anorganicpotato2729 It's like he said, the darkness draws in *everything.* When he's attacked, he's getting hit extra had from his own increased gravity, which he apparently cannot turn off.

  • @eriya181
    @eriya181 2 года назад +2

    I like to think the Yonko without Devil Fruits would be like having 4 Shankses b/c they would all still have strong Haki, so not too much would change

  • @mattmanda3794
    @mattmanda3794 2 года назад +1

    Tekking, I personally disagree about the kaido take because if you remember kaido eating the azure dragon devil fruit is the reason he survived god valley. As stated by big mom. So if we’re assuming this to be true then with out the fruit kaido would’ve perished on god valley before he became a Yonko

  • @Dakulous
    @Dakulous 2 года назад

    Was the "Dragon on a bit" joke from Leagues 3 on OSRS

  • @GedExequielDFlores
    @GedExequielDFlores 2 года назад +1

    That's what's gping to happen with luffy when he fight blackbeard so he doesn't need to have a drawback on gear 5

  • @ericpowell8563
    @ericpowell8563 2 года назад

    I imagine Big Mom in the water swimming like Snorlax

  • @chadraimondo2246
    @chadraimondo2246 2 года назад

    You should do a what if scenario, on how the emperors would be If all of there devil fruits were switched with eachother.
    Like hiw prolific they'd be in the world and how each would have used the fruits differently.
    Like imagine big mom with white beards fruit and going into one of her hunger pains, it sounds kinda catastrophic.