A good update this, shame there isn't an option for adaptive cruise to be honest as it's now so complete. The revision to bring in the 6 axis IMU should address the biggest issue I had with the outgoing model; the DCT changing mid corner. I was amazed they didn't put it on this bike when they introduced it on the Africa Twin because it absolutely solves one of the biggest bug bears with DCT. Bizarrely the NC750X, which didn't have the IMU never really did it if you were in Sport 1 or 2, but the AT did, until they fitted the 6 axis IMU. For those put off with the DCT, you get used to them really quickly, and if you want it in manual mode then it's one of the best quick shifters you've ever used.
It’s a heavy bike already with limited power, modern chains are easy to maintain and far more efficient than any shaft. Had three GSs and the shaft ruined the gear change.
Im a young rider and me and gf would love this but its so hard to get a new bike while trying to pay bills :( maybe one day, the red version looks lovely
Being the owner of a 2024 nt1100 I can safely say the biggest pain in the ass is the snatchy throttle never owned a bike this bad .Then the screen works but adjustment is to stiff and you have to stop to do it and last is the stupid mass of switches on left bar . These all need sorting.why did I buy it well the engine is brilliant the sound and fuel economy is brilliant two up it's good and I got it in manual brand new for 11 grand and have no issues with the suspension out of the box .
Glad to hear the DCT now provides smooth transition between gears…….by comparison, I rode a GSA1300 in auto mode last week and was shocked at how clunky the gear changes were ….really rocking me back and forwards as it changed cogs 😮
It's clearly for those who do NOT go off road. I'd MUCH rather have this setup. Handles better on pavement, the overall form factor is better for long trips. Easy decision.
Interesting point and I went through the process of looking at the AT and NT1100 and I would reverse your comment and say why would anyone buy a AT if they only did road riding the NT1100 is better.
Apparently 66% of sales are DCT already, so they won't probably lose any sales. It just seems a bit of a old mans bike anyway. Coincidentally my father just retired and is looking at this. His 2004 Goldwing is unnecessary bulky and heavy for solo trips.
Don't worry, you don't have to. I believe honda announced that initially but then after the grumblings of the buyers they added the option to purchase a manual bike with electronic suspension.
I'm no techno gimp, but I couldn't go back to manual gear change again, I don't do 90% of the functions on the bike and love it, looking forward to my 25 plate on 1st March
Another current owner here that is waiting for the first review to tell us what we really need to know....is the throttle still snatchy at low openings? It's the biggest issue on these bikes!
Hi, now we have a few bikes with automatic transmission, GS, Tracer and Honda. Can you try to compare the automatic transmission on those bikes? I have a NT1100 DCT 22’ happy with the bike , but not on slow u-turns
Overall, an informative review and appreciated...but it would add a great deal if you were to show yourself sitting astride the bike at rest with observations on seat height and whether you are tippy toe or flat-footed. A loaded bike with pillion requires some confidence when stopped as well as at speed. Cheers
That's gone on the new Tracer9 GT+, hasn't it? The double screen thing? Also, have you seen the price of it with the auto box and electronic suspension? I think I got it to £18k 😮
I have read numerous reviews of this TOURING bike, when will reviewers remember that many of us TOURING riders always ride two up. I bought a BMW GT800 years ago, it came with panniers and a top box etc, great solo absolute waste of space two up! Replaced it with a Goldwing, great two up!
My Pan European is 20 years old and has an electric screen that I can fine adjust on the move. Why the NT incorporate this onto its screen. Not hard or costly when the technology is proven and to hand.
Biggest drawback for me (as a former 1100 Africa Twin AS owner) is the chain final drive. A shaft drive would be the biggest difference and reason for me to switch compared to the (much more pretty in my opinion) Africa Twin
So whats the point? A ten year old Multistrada will Out suspension, Out handle, Out power and Out tour any version of this Honda. Once again Honda builds an Underperforming, Out of date, Out classed bike at a cheap price. So what is the point and why would i want to buy one?
Sure would be nice to be able to buy one but, Honda doesn't think the USA should have these. Instead they give us the poorly designed Harley copy Rebel 1100 which is horrible for two up touring.
It’s a good bike but lacks shaft drive and lacks luggage space compared to the st1300, until Honda go back to shaft for small models I won’t buy it and still keep the st1300
you only have electronic suspension with DCT ???, counts this bike out for me , what is wrong with Honda, manual bike with electronic suspension I would be placing my order on Monday as it is , no way , I want to ride a bike and be in control not be a passenger
A 9-minute review? Really! I hope Bennets Insurance will do better and give us a proper review because this one is not detailed enough (for me). Rant over.
The reviewer is doing something horribly wrong if he has to worry about passengers bashing helmets etc., when manually shifting a bike. Also: "I don't know why someone would go for the manual option" Well, maybe when you use a clutch properly, there is great satisfaction and fun when making shifts without all the supposed drama they are the cause of lol. Why doesn't the entire world want only Apple Watches and digital quartz jobbies? Boy all those people who love the nasty analogue things with hands and moving parts and tiny beautiful gears, sure are missing out.
Lolz. If your imu is reading "yaw" you're about to crash. Honda are now experts at building 2 wheeled hearses. All they are doing is releasing iterations and charging stupid money for them.
This bike is a sign that your loved one is depressed. That the light has gone out, and you should talk to them more. It says, "Who cares?". Its unflavored ice cream. They should call it the Honda Motorcycle.
I don't want to sound like an RT snob, but the old NT looked awful, with terrible features such as the screen as you demonstrated. Well below what I'd expect from Honda. Was this the sorry excuse for a Pan European replacement? Come on Honda, pull yourself together. Let's have shaft-drive, 1300cc, electronic screen (and lowers for leg protection), heated seat and grips. BTW, snowflake, you go for manual because you're a MAN and it's an important part of riding a bike. If you find it fatiguing, get yourself a car.
Precisely the review I was looking for. Excellent job.
If it was shaft drive it would I’ve been my next bike !
Saw this at the NEC and in the blue its actually a really nice looking bike, something i never thought i cpuld say about an nt
the DCT in manual mode is brilliant when you want to push on in the bends, it's very surprising, like paddles on a sports car
A good update this, shame there isn't an option for adaptive cruise to be honest as it's now so complete.
The revision to bring in the 6 axis IMU should address the biggest issue I had with the outgoing model; the DCT changing mid corner. I was amazed they didn't put it on this bike when they introduced it on the Africa Twin because it absolutely solves one of the biggest bug bears with DCT. Bizarrely the NC750X, which didn't have the IMU never really did it if you were in Sport 1 or 2, but the AT did, until they fitted the 6 axis IMU.
For those put off with the DCT, you get used to them really quickly, and if you want it in manual mode then it's one of the best quick shifters you've ever used.
Shaft drive would be great, but belt would be a good improvement over chain
Then people would buy this instead of a gold wing.
It’s a heavy bike already with limited power, modern chains are easy to maintain and far more efficient than any shaft. Had three GSs and the shaft ruined the gear change.
Nice review, tailored to the use of the bike and the target group.
Thanks!
Im a young rider and me and gf would love this but its so hard to get a new bike while trying to pay bills :( maybe one day, the red version looks lovely
Being the owner of a 2024 nt1100 I can safely say the biggest pain in the ass is the snatchy throttle never owned a bike this bad .Then the screen works but adjustment is to stiff and you have to stop to do it and last is the stupid mass of switches on left bar . These all need sorting.why did I buy it well the engine is brilliant the sound and fuel economy is brilliant two up it's good and I got it in manual brand new for 11 grand and have no issues with the suspension out of the box .
Glad to hear the DCT now provides smooth transition between gears…….by comparison, I rode a GSA1300 in auto mode last week and was shocked at how clunky the gear changes were ….really rocking me back and forwards as it changed cogs 😮
OK, but now new Africa Twin AS have 19" front wheel and the same seat height, but with 25L tank, so what's the point of buying NT really?
It's clearly for those who do NOT go off road. I'd MUCH rather have this setup. Handles better on pavement, the overall form factor is better for long trips. Easy decision.
@@allwheeldrive New Africa AS is not for off road really also, even have road tyres Metzeler K. Street
Interesting point and I went through the process of looking at the AT and NT1100 and I would reverse your comment and say why would anyone buy a AT if they only did road riding the NT1100 is better.
@@chrisdagnall8666 because Africa have 25L fuel tank, thats why.
@@prof.2248ok fair enough if you need that range, I do get 240 miles per tank on my NT which is 50 miles more than my butt can take 😊
It’s a shame that if you want the electronic suspension you need to go auto. That will lose sales methinks.
Apparently 66% of sales are DCT already, so they won't probably lose any sales. It just seems a bit of a old mans bike anyway. Coincidentally my father just retired and is looking at this. His 2004 Goldwing is unnecessary bulky and heavy for solo trips.
Don't worry, you don't have to. I believe honda announced that initially but then after the grumblings of the buyers they added the option to purchase a manual bike with electronic suspension.
I'm no techno gimp, but I couldn't go back to manual gear change again, I don't do 90% of the functions on the bike and love it, looking forward to my 25 plate on 1st March
@@duncanorr5926 Thank you, makes sense.
Another current owner here that is waiting for the first review to tell us what we really need to know....is the throttle still snatchy at low openings? It's the biggest issue on these bikes!
Hi, now we have a few bikes with automatic transmission, GS, Tracer and Honda. Can you try to compare the automatic transmission on those bikes?
I have a NT1100 DCT 22’ happy with the bike , but not on slow u-turns
Any decent colours?
Nice review ❤
It would have been nice if they’d made CarPlay wireless just for Google Maps navigation
is that the sun or did you have a wash as well when you got to Spain?
Overall, an informative review and appreciated...but it would add a great deal if you were to show yourself sitting astride the bike at rest with observations on seat height and whether you are tippy toe or flat-footed. A loaded bike with pillion requires some confidence when stopped as well as at speed. Cheers
Not out yet, but I'd say obvious competitors, Yamaha Tracer 9GT+ Y-AMT? What put me off was the double screen and too many buttons!
That's gone on the new Tracer9 GT+, hasn't it? The double screen thing?
Also, have you seen the price of it with the auto box and electronic suspension? I think I got it to £18k 😮
I have read numerous reviews of this TOURING bike, when will reviewers remember that many of us TOURING riders always ride two up. I bought a BMW GT800 years ago, it came with panniers and a top box etc, great solo absolute waste of space two up! Replaced it with a Goldwing, great two up!
Why you didn’t mention,that electronic display is so slow, it takes about a minute to turn on , and of course you have to push ok button
I've always wondered why choose this over the Africa Twin?
My Pan European is 20 years old and has an electric screen that I can fine adjust on the move. Why the NT incorporate this onto its screen. Not hard or costly when the technology is proven and to hand.
I think the Guzzi Stelvio is a good competitor, don’t you agree?
It seems like your review is a bit at odds with your title.
With updates it goes head to head with the kawasaki versys 1100
Does anyone buy the automatic version? Why do they even offer an automatic version?
With most of the DCT bikes it is about 60% or so that choose DCT and growing.
Not sold in US!
Can't wait!
You went all the way to Spain for an 8.48 min video telling us the new screen is great..... Wow. Should have got AI to do it.
Biggest drawback for me (as a former 1100 Africa Twin AS owner) is the chain final drive. A shaft drive would be the biggest difference and reason for me to switch compared to the (much more pretty in my opinion) Africa Twin
Maybe that you don't won't the DCT is because you can afford it but you just don't want it. Best!
still waiting for a new vfr1200f!
The bike looked the same but the presenter looked completely different.
I think the kawasaki ninja 1100 sx se is the direct rival for this.
HONDA❤❤❤
So whats the point? A ten year old Multistrada will Out suspension, Out handle, Out power and Out tour any version of this Honda. Once again Honda builds an Underperforming, Out of date, Out classed bike at a cheap price. So what is the point and why would i want to buy one?
Sure would be nice to be able to buy one but, Honda doesn't think the USA should have these. Instead they give us the poorly designed Harley copy Rebel 1100 which is horrible for two up touring.
It’s a good bike but lacks shaft drive and lacks luggage space compared to the st1300, until Honda go back to shaft for small models I won’t buy it and still keep the st1300
Would prefer the Ninja kawasaki the only thing that this as is the suspension
you only have electronic suspension with DCT ???, counts this bike out for me , what is wrong with Honda, manual bike with electronic suspension I would be placing my order on Monday as it is , no way , I want to ride a bike and be in control not be a passenger
A 9-minute review? Really! I hope Bennets Insurance will do better and give us a proper review because this one is not detailed enough (for me).
Rant over.
Maybe lacking just a little bit of power, but otherwise nice job by Honda
Almost lost my life on a brand new nt1100, suspension issue in a dct version , thank u but no thank u. Suspension wobble at 100kmh
Get back to smaller displacement motorcycles, MCN!
The reviewer is doing something horribly wrong if he has to worry about passengers bashing helmets etc., when manually shifting a bike. Also: "I don't know why someone would go for the manual option" Well, maybe when you use a clutch properly, there is great satisfaction and fun when making shifts without all the supposed drama they are the cause of lol. Why doesn't the entire world want only Apple Watches and digital quartz jobbies? Boy all those people who love the nasty analogue things with hands and moving parts and tiny beautiful gears, sure are missing out.
Lolz. If your imu is reading "yaw" you're about to crash. Honda are now experts at building 2 wheeled hearses. All they are doing is releasing iterations and charging stupid money for them.
Driving instructor's bike
why still keep the smaller screen. pointless and irritating.
This bike is a sign that your loved one is depressed. That the light has gone out, and you should talk to them more. It says, "Who cares?". Its unflavored ice cream. They should call it the Honda Motorcycle.
What the hell is going in with new bike design? They all have these squinty horrible headlights and awful looks. Looks like a maxi scooter
Soon we will have AI generated videos with AI generated comments.
That day arrived around 12 months ago
In a world of beige that is super beige
Looks like a scooter
dead internet theory
there we go
@@Teatimeted how do i know you arent an AI bot?
Weird scooter
Another boring Honda..
I don't want to sound like an RT snob, but the old NT looked awful, with terrible features such as the screen as you demonstrated. Well below what I'd expect from Honda. Was this the sorry excuse for a Pan European replacement? Come on Honda, pull yourself together. Let's have shaft-drive, 1300cc, electronic screen (and lowers for leg protection), heated seat and grips. BTW, snowflake, you go for manual because you're a MAN and it's an important part of riding a bike. If you find it fatiguing, get yourself a car.
If you added all those features you mentioned they aren't going to be able to price it so low...
@jonnybonny4193 That's true but at the end of the day you need a bike fit for purpose and worth keeping for a long time.
Ah yes, masculinity defined by shift lever operation. Bravo 👏👏
@jasonslavik1224 Yep! Scooters come in automatic for those who like that kind of thing.
pretty sure Honda's are more reliable than BMWs. You're paying more for a BMW for the features (that many don't want or need) and a brand name.