1969: Has ENGLAND Embraced "EXOTIC" Food? | Nationwide | Voice of the People | BBC Archive
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- Gastronomically speaking, English cooking has traditionally found itself the butt of the joke. Now however, it seems the long-repressed English palate has begun dabbling in the exotic. Rumours abound that sweet potatoes, plantains, yams, peppers, aubergines and chocho are flying off market stalls as fast as traders can get their hands on them. But just what are these extraordinary fruit and veg, and how does one cook with them? Nationwide's Mark Patterson investigates, with a little help from actor John Louis Mansi and cook Sonia Nolan.
Originally broadcast 9 October, 1969.
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"Put it in a dinner, liven it up. Summit like that" 😂. Brilliant!
😂 imagine peppers, the cheapest of all vegetables once being exotic. I remember my nan telling me how she had an entire family meeting when mangos first came to England.
Depends on where you are. Capsicum are you to $6nz each at certain times of the year
It's funny too how she said something like "peppers, there's not much you can do with them and they're best used as garnish" lol. Peppers of any variety have unlimited uses 😝
Pls, pls tell me you have the minutes to that meeting?!!!
@@unnamedchannel1237
Capsicums in a pack of 4 is about £1 in UK at anytime of the year 😅
@@choncord where you buying your peppers!?
I love how self-aware this actually is.
My Mum came from the north of Spain to London and told me that when she went looking for Olive oil she was told to go to a chemist.She could not find them in the shops!!
Haha hilarious I love that
It was the same in Australia when my Italian parents arrived in the 60's. Insane.
my mum went to the chemists for it too!
That's very true. It was actually only used as a treatment for ear wax back then!! The only place you could get it was in a chemist!
Now I know where the stereotype that Brits don't eat good food comes from - it's entirely from the dire way people used to eat in the two decades after the war!
That woman is beautiful and she has a really cool accent. Half posh half Jamaican
Yup, I agree
Lovely voice but a shame if she only got the job because she could suppress her accent.
@@Ras6200 At that time, the BBC required all on-air staff to use an RP accent. My best friend's mother-in-law experienced this. She was Scottish, but had to take voice lessons to replace her accent with RP.
Shocking!
Around that time the BBC had its first West Indian woman presenter in Birmingham. Enoch Powell insisted that she was sent away when he came for an interview. She was eventually sacked because too many Brummies complained about seeing a black woman on TV.
P.S. Many insist to this day that Powell was not a racist.
4:25, "Tony! My eyes are up here!"
Marching with the umbrella, the bowler hat and the tweed jacket. Doesn’t get any better 😂😂😂😂😂😂
He wasn't actually dressed like a typical English gentleman of the time. It was an absolute parody.
and then sprints across the road when there are no cars coming, some proper 30s slapstick
"...an orgy of exotic vegetables" is definitely a phrase I intend to use at some point this week.
1:28 best hair ever, 1:48 most London kid ever.
Great kid, hope he had/ is having a good life.👍
A magnificent coiffure that wouldn't look out of place today
This is brilliant!! That woman was beautiful! Her style!!!
Her whole outfit looks a few years ahead of its time - those trousers would have killed it on the dance floor circa 1976 or so.
Great presentation. It's neat to see people so "with it" back then even by modern standards.
@@AshleyPomeroy She is an anonymous person and she happens to be ahead of her time? Friend, there were thousands of people like that, it's a bit of logic, not everyone is the same, or do you think that today we are all the same? Can you imagine in 40 years that people think that we had to be a certain way? it's stupid
Tell Sunak
Gotta love the tongue in cheek joke at the Englishman stereotype even 53 years ago
I recall reading an interview with a famous Italian chef (can’t remember which one though) who said that when he came to the U.K in the 1970’s the only place he could buy olive oil was at a chemist’s.
Yes, I remember that! Crazy I know.
In the smalllish town I grew up in, olive oil was still only available in the chemist until at least 1989. Hilarious when you think of the quality and variety we have now. And it was foul!
I believe that was the French Raymond Blanc - I think I've also seen the interview.
@@SpecialJay - I think you’re right. (Don’t know why I thought he was an Italian).👍
In tiny bottles to pour in your ear to soften earwax!!
My mum went to a specialist shop to buy all the spices for a curry around this time. But when she gave her friend the recipe she told her to use 5 whole garlics instead of 5 cloves of garlic!! The woman wasnt happy!
Yikes!
Well, at least she wasn't likely to fall prey to any vampires for the forseeable future! 😆
Mum was just super white.
@@rickwilliams967 Super White, like super man
I was shocked when I found out that You could eat Avocado, I thought it was the colour of our bath!
Ours was champagne. That makes us posher than you 😎😁😂
@@71Wraith you got me there, but our house was the first in the street to get an electric light in the outside toilet!!
@@gary23jag As for fitted carpets, we never even had wall-to-wall floors. Our kitchen walls were so thin, we could open our oven door and dip our bread into next door's gravy.
Thank Mexico/ South America for Avocado
I watched late 60s Coronation Street recently.
"Ooh, I don't want any of that foreign muck!" - was a line said in response to Spaghetti being on special offer as it wasn't selling.
Our palates were changing again and it was being reflected in pop culture.
My nan was never accepting of spaghetti, she said it looked like worms. She also constantly said muck hahaha.
Corrie is such a fascinating mirror of society at any given time.... sure it may be stereotypical or have a subtle agenda or whatever, but generally, the writers had the cast saying the kind of things that people on any street would say. It feels like they increased the number of episodes each week by a crazy amount over the years though!
@taipeistreetroaming 😮
I also watched an episode of Corrie from the late 1960s where Ken Barlow mentions to his wife Val about going down to the Indian restaurant to get 'two chicken biryani's with pilau rice an onion 'bhajia' and a poppadom'. Rice with rice! Tastes were indeed changing!
My grandad wouldn't shut up about wanting to try pasta after seeing a dolmio advert.
My gran relented and made him some.
He didn't like it....
She held that against him for 30 years ,lol
2:43 omg the style! That'd do in a 2022 Versace collection
Literally what i was about to say ahaha
Very stylish
I like the big watch as well.
@@AtheistOrphan Panerai Radiomir. Not cheap.
Agreed!!! She looks fabulous and sounds delightful too!
I used to live in Brixton from 1975 and remember well those markets with new fruit and vegetables that we didnt know before. Wonderful
that lady had style.
My mum taught domestic science (cookery etc) same class as Mary Berry. First thing I noticed were curries she cooked, around 1973, then she discovered Delia Smith and our meals changed significantly. Suddenly there were pasta dishes, garlic in everything, chilli con carne, Chinese dishes. Didn’t eat a Chinese takeaway until about 1980 though and my first Indian restaurant experience was in 1984.
these little videos bring so much pleasure and joy! thank you!
The lad at 1:45 sounds like a football manager from the 90s
That was about as cockney as it gets 😂
@@RedDevil_Joethat’s not cockney. That’s South London
T'rrific little player.
@@user-vm9hh2se7sthat's not Sarf London mate, that's east
This was a time when people were starting to travel a bit more and so getting a taste for the "exotic". It must have been quite an exciting time for foodies and the more adventurous souls. (By the way I had Plantains for the first time recently cut thinly and deep fried like crisps (chips) - delicious.)
When Crossing the UK borders everything becomes exotic for the British
@@billycorgan3934 I think most people are a bit more sophisticated now when it comes to food than they were in the 60s.
@@hilaryepstein6013 I've been the last 5 years in UK and still considering not sophisticated enough in comparison with the rest of Europe (at least most of the European countries). Of course you can get fine restaurants in London but the common Britons have no gastronomic culture.
Travel to colonies, sure
@@billycorgan3934 And for every other human who has ever lived, by definition. If you haven't seen it before, it's exotic.
Nothing so wrong with English food; it ought to be remembered Britain was deep in the aftermath of two world wars and the culinarily-restrictive habits of extreme food-rationing lasting well into the 1950s (1914 - 1921, 1940 - 1954); English recipes as a result had not possibly been bequeathed for a couple of generations, by which point many were forgotten and replaced in cultural familiarity by Windrush-related dishes that had become newly established for the new unsettled post-war generations. English recipes only made a slow partial comeback - never a full recovery - through a drip-feed of domestic magazines, by then also missing a development stage found in countries less domestically and economically afflicted by the wars.
Very informative, thanks!
1:41 - Lol old boy mean-mugging the toff with his bag of peppers there. 😆
3:08 That forced accent slipping back into broad Jamaican 😂😂
Lol but her accent is nice though. I like how it’s a combination of posh and Jamaican. And her speaking voice is also nice too
I don't think it is 'forced'. I am guessing that she grew up in an 'elite' middle-class family in the Caribbean like my father did. At my father's school, they were taught Latin, French and Greek languages (He had the old GCE qualifications in those subjects) In other words she is possibly an 'uptown' Jamaican. She also reminds me of some of my Carribean brother in laws family, who are mixed but look Greek almost white. This family is well off, own land, hotels and various businesses and can be quite snooty.
She actually sounds slightly Irish
It’s because of the rhotic Rs
Love the Cockney accents ....how beautiful was the lady cooking at the end 😀
Cor blimey governor
@@garryleeks4848 too right mate 😄
were there angels singing during the long, sparkly crotch shots
Sonia Nolan was the tastiest dish of them all! 😍
I was trying to look her up as I knew nothing about her but can’t find anything online .
@C D Stylish too, loved her trousers
@@funkgSo did the cameraman. He lingered in her crotch for no apparent reason at one point in that video.
A good example of the world getting smaller.
It is interesting how 50 years later you can find sweet potatoes and green peppers in most shops with no issues. They have become so normal to us. However, yams, etc, aren't as common and will be very different to find anywhere
Depends on where you live. In London every other Asian grocers will have yam for sale
Yams are not as sweet as sweet potatoes. Think the latter won the popularity contest and yams could never replace traditional potatoes for the extra price for a similar taste.
M'dear - I think you mean 'difficult' - not 'different' ! English is a great language - and it can express a wide variety and subtlety of meanings and expressions; especially when you avoid too much over-use of words like 'issues', or 'tasked' or 'cute' or 'amazing'. Otherwise - it can become bland and boring; like cooking food without 'exotic' ingredients !
I love that young Black boys cockney accent.
Sarf London mate...Related to Cockney, but different.
Now it's Jafaken.
Roadman
@@Future-Classic-Comics Excellent point.
Lets look at everyday council estates.
Briatin has undergone massive changes.
Nowadays most White teenagers speak English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect which is very different from the anglo saxon dialect of English which is spoken y this woman.
In the early 2000's, young white kids on council estates in London became JAMAICANISED.
This is when they starting speaking with English with a hybrid Jamaican dialect.
For example, Essex county is the only place in Britain where the cockney dialect/and or accent is still spoken.
@@shaunigothictv1003 Yes I agree thanks for the very swift reply, well in the future, imo the English accent will only be left for the middle class and upper middle classes, all this cultural appropriation is bullsh!t people only speak Jafaken because it's cool- if it was cool to speak Yiddish or Bengali slang as a full time language young people's would.
It's quite literally a trend and it's taking over everything- including saying "haitch" instead of aitch.
And bare instead of many, peak instead of rubbish and calm instead of cool.
Of course slang always evolves but unfortunately Cockney will die out for whatever the latest interpretation of Jafaican is.
@@Future-Classic-Comics Agreed.
Cheers mate.
This sounds and looks like something from an early episode of 'Monty Python's Flying Circus'. I'm surprised that the gentleman in question didn't do a 'silly walk' when he crossed the road !
Peppers and aubergines being exotic, wow. Okra was very common where I grew up in the southern USA.
Southern USA makes sense
same. I was also surprised that yams and sweet potatoes were considered as exotic even in 1960s Britain. Thought they were already common by then just like ordinary potatoes.
Okra was popularised by black Americans.
@@joshuataylor3550 Although the comment seems to come out of nowhere, it is such a relief to hear someone use the term "black" Americans and not African American which is divisive, racist and stupid. Thanks.
@@chamboyette853...what?
I like her trousers!
So did the cameraman 😉
My god that woman is absolutely beautiful and her style is amazing. Who is / was she?
Sonia Nolan
She sure was keeping the cooking simple for you lot! We in the Caribbean make several dishes and pies with that stuff. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The most exotic thing in that film today is the bowler hat!
I “love” how the narrator thinks there are only two cultures, British and Foreign.
it's a dry humor styled joke. it's basically teasing the Brits who think literally everything is "foreign". If you read earlier British history they were constantly invaded by their neighbours, last time they were conquered by William their culture and language just died. So there probably is some fear of the foreign
@@Zadir09 I would say that it's typical BBC metropolitan elitism deliberately lampooning ordinary British people who lived outside major cities, many of whom had never even seen a black or Asian person in the flesh, let alone a mango.
Amazing!
what an amazing sense of style this woman has for the time
The presenter for the cooking is gorgeous :)
I love her pants / trousers ! They must have got sticky in hot weather.
The chef is so elegant with her groovy pants baby!
2:02 The struggle to carry your shopping home when you don't have a car. I understand this man's pain :(😥 2:11 He finally found a car :) 😄
Helpful hint: If you don't have a car, always bring a trolley-bag with you. (Women would have known this, but not "John Bull".)
Thank you immigrant populations for giving us good tasty food.
1:47 love his accent
Omg the lady with the RP Jamaican accent. Amazing.
That women was beautiful and spoke so nicely 👏
Beautiful chef in the kitchen!
She was absolutely beautiful!!
Damn! Sonia is a smoke show 🔥
She also had style!
@@BallparkHunter yes… she could peel and boil my yam any day! 😂
I'm sorry, but the shot of her peeling and chopping that plantain seemed almost cinematographically provocative. 😮
Yup 🔥 🔥 🔥
@@eemoogee160I’m guessing the camera man was thinking exactly that - he held that shot tight 😂
Nice pants at 2.43
Cameraman agrees 😄
Shout out to the chef 🔥
I was a French student working as an assistant in a school in Liverpool in the early 90's. You couldn't find any ground coffee anywhere except for a brand called Lyons which was not very good. Even pasta and yoghurt were hard to find.
I can't imagine how awful life would have been for me in the UK if I was born a few decades earlier. No decent coffee, bland food. I literally have "exotic" vegetables like sweet potatoes and bell peppers almost every day. Ground coffee in a cafetière. Home made salad dressings for my fancy foreign veg made with this exotic and naughty-sounding substance called extra virgin olive oil. All of this seems like it wasn't widely available 30 years ago.
@@mikelovesbaconyet it wouldn’t have been awful for you because you wouldn’t know of anything better.
I remember visiting my grandparents homes (divorced) in the 70’s and having amazing meals because they both had “cooks” being well off.
However, I visited a French friend who was an Erasmus student in Bradford in 1990 and she took me to all those incredible Indian and Pakistani restaurants where you had to eat with your fingers and all. Indian food was not really a thing in France back then and that was a truly amazing experience.@@mikelovesbacon
Ah Liverpool in the 90s, studying, John Moores Uni, working as a writer at L:Scene, great times.
Yes Lyons coffee wasnt that great, I used to have Rombouts Filter Coffee then, and Chicory Coffee from Holland and Barretts, can't recall buying ground coffee though then.
"You're quite a gourmet, aren't you, Palmer?"
Tinned champignon. That bit kills me every time.
LOL "Stick that in my B-107."
It’s amazing how much weight a paper bag used to be able to hold. Almost like we never needed plastic.
Great archive. Love it but not sure about the green bananas being peeled like a plantain. Not the green bananas I know, You cut the edges and slit the sides and cook in the skin, you can take the skin off but they don’t cook as well and it certainly isn’t as easy as peeling a plantain.
Imagine them seeing Thai green curry. Otherworldly
It's amazing to think there are still londoners who have never had a pizza their entire lives!!!
If you buy them in England that’s probably quite a good idea
@@steveosborne2297 Where do you buy your pizza?
He has his pizza flown in from Napoli
@@joshuataylor3550 lol
@@steveosborne2297 London, specifically, is home to some of the best pizzeria's on the planet, where you can eat authentic Italian pizza's. 😂
Man was looking all elegant crossing the road until he suddenly burst into a run.
My Mom told me when she was young (1940's), the only time you would get an orange or a tangerine, was at Christmas - proper treat it was.
And bananas? - even rarer. A total oddity.
My grandmother used to pronounce pizza phonetically as opposed to peetsa.🤣
How is it pronounced in Italy?
why make fun of your elder for something she could not have known?
Now theirs a wholesale market selling these in boxes and pallets.
Can we just take a moment to acknowledge the woman at 2:43
4:56 - TVG 758 - Vauxhall Cresta PA? (As featured in The Specials ‘Ghost Town’ video).
1:45 definition of geezer.
Why only peal half ? That was driving me mad, she never finished pealing any of it.
Probably because potato skins are good for you! But then why bother at all?
I 've watched this 130,000,000,000 times. The question fellas, is why?
Those pants are great!
Is that von Smallhausen from Allo Allo? :O
I wonder why choko is the only vegetable not popular today
Some exotic fashions in the kitchen as well as some exotic vegetables 🤩 Very nice.
Makes you realise how spoiled for choice we are now with the globalised food trade, though one wonders if/how long thats going to last in the current climate..
Food history is fun. "Hungry Empire" by Lizzie Collingham is one of my all time favorite books
“And over there, a typical Englishman.”
RULE BRITANNIA HAS ENTERED THE CHAT
3:25 you can hear the the Jamaican break through her Queens English lol 😆
Who is that beautiful woman giving all the cooking advice?
Sonia Nolan
My Nanna was in her 70s when she first had a cheeseburger and fries
When Wimpy burger was a big deal.
@@cattysplatOMG! I remember visiting Wimpys as a kid and thinking it was disgusting! I wonder if it delayed me from having my first American burger!
Talking about burgers… There used to be a great Burger Restaurant in London for posh people (it was expensive) called “The Great American Disaster” that had amazing burgers. I had one of my childhood birthday parties there. The restaurant was so successful they opened a few other branches. An English entrepreneur tried to rip off the chain and opened a competing restaurant called “The Great British Success”… It was a “disaster” and shortly closed! 😂😂
Peppers? I would have never guessed it was this recent.
I grew up in the 70s, and it's absolutely true that food was pretty basic compared to today. I remember eating spam fritters a lot. And corned beef hash. I was in my late teens before I discovered that hamburgers could be eaten as a sandwich ... up to then everyone I knew ate them with peas, mash and gravy.
But in a lot of ways things were better. For a start, most things were cooked from scratch, so far less processed food. And despite the lack of exotic ingredients, food tasted better, imo. Families actually ate meals, together, in the same room, at the same time. I know, crazy, right?
As I've gotten older, I've slowly migrated back to real food. I'm now basically on a traditional meat and two veg diet all the time.
Why is this new and exotic when Britain has owned the lands it comes from for hundreds of years?
Just goes to show the average Britain didn't benefit from empire.
Yep. Working class brits have always been walked over by the upper class, and in recent decades by the snooty and pretentious middle class. People forget that the working class were also oblivious to what happened across the empire unless it was told to them through sailors tales or the government, no internet back then.
@@colonelturmeric558problem with the working class English people is they started the racist behaviour when black people arrived and they tried to be the oppressor .
Because of cultural and technological changes. Improvements in shipbuilding (plus the introduction of artificial refrigeration) gradually made it easier to transport foods in good condition. Advances in agriculture made it easier to produce products. And immigration meant people who wanted food that they had in their countries of origin.
Camera guy got a bit distracted at 4:25
Hilarious ! 😂
That typical Englishman is the sidekick of herr flick from allo allo!
she is❤❤❤❤❤
4:30 vadge cam.
A life before Google search engine. In seconds I can get a thousand different recipes for any food imaginable.
Beautiful Woman
I'm very clued up on food and cooking, but I have never heard of Chocho or however you spell it, must Google!
Must admit I don't like okra (or lady's fingers as it's known)and plantain, or yams, but peppers and sweet potatoes are lovely.
The lady with the metallic trousers who said you can't do much with peppers isn't right, but I suppose it is the 60s and cooking techniques were more I presume limited than now.
Peppers sliced thinly in a salad, tossed in avocado oil and fried in a stir fry, roasted slices with herbs and wedges of red onion with chicken...
"Or is that chips again" cue sweet potato fries! 😂
Britain’s culinary tolerances are alike the friend we all had growing that refused to eat anything but pb&j and hotdogs.
Healthy times ❤
Wow at 2:55 , what a view , can I have some of that pie please ? 🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️
Yikes.
Down horrendously
One thing that strikes me is that although the RP accent and the newsreader accent has slightly changed, the cockney accent is pretty much the same as today.
Oh, those pants.....
British cooking guide...
1. Is it a vegetable?
2. Yes.
3. Boil it until it is utterly destroyed.
4. Eat it... if you must.
Thank you. 🫡
I was born in 91 and these old videos fascinate me so much, would have thought the British would have known about exotic food/fruits from the countries they had illegally invaded and looted
😂😂😂 great comment
Kid in film is cool with his ‘liven’ed up dinner’ with his cockney accent. 2024 version : ‘my mom’s make dinner en it, because we are hungry from beeen chased by da feds en it bro’ 😂😂
Does anyone else think the cameraman was a little pervy when she was demonstrating the plantains? The plantains were barely in the frame for a few seconds! 4:16-4:28.
I nearly fainted!
"Think of all the variety off restaurants we have now!"
Peppers are cheaper than ever for a bag of 8 for £1.20 that used to get just one in the 90s
WAS THAT VON SMALL HOUZEN FROM "ALLO ALLO"? JOHN LOUIS MANSI IN THE BOWLER HAT
How did the food taste before this revelation? I can only imagine.
it didnt taste. it was flavourless. it was purely "fuel" to put in your body to give you energy to do more important stuff like build an empire and save the world from hitler etc
@@tonyclifton265 buahahahahahahahahah. *straight face* I see!!
@@tonyclifton265 btw…Britain did not single handedly 'save the world from hitler', it was a massive joint effort. Well, the building of the British empire of oppression and slavery was done almost single handedly.
@@aoo2645 nobody mentioned britain saving the world from hitler single handedly but you
@@hhhsf4357 okay