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- Bernard Falk investigates a modern social phenomenon, commuting. What inspires hundreds of thousands of people to spend up to four hours a day commuting to work in London? How do they pass all that time spent cooped up inside crowded train carriages and buses?
Bernard meets all manner of people on his travels, from the Waterloo Station announcer Margaret Knight - who only ever sees the commuters from afar - to Spud Murphy, the helpful stationmaster at East Farleigh - who knows the names of every commuter at his station and tries to bring his own personal touch to their journeys. Solicitor Michael Gilbert uses his commute to write 'whodunit' novels, while another commuter writes poetry, and then there's the bridge players - for whom the daily commute is often too short.
Originally broadcast 4 October, 1976.
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Regardless of who you are or what you believe in, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that the world needs more Spud
Spud is a legend every station needs a spud
can you tell anything more about that nice man ?
The kind of person who deserves an OBE or MBE.
A Sick Boy and Renton, also👍
@@stefanxt350 Spud is still alive at 116 and still enjoys breakdancing and collecting hardcore gay porn
@@Chris_34 This Spud has even got the same surname as that Spud.
That 'Overcrowded Railway Carriage' with everyone able to sit down made me laugh. Now that would mean you're stood nose to nose with a stranger for the entire journey!
The shots of the busy station... It's almost empty by today's standard.
@@hanvyj2 I was wondering if it was due to population growth, but the UK’s only gone from 55 to 65 million in those 50 years. I suppose it must just be the migration from rural areas to the cities!
@@kaitlyn__L Either that, or the growing popularity of commuting in due to property prices. By the sounds of it, back then it was unusual to travel in for work. Nowadays in many cities it's just not expected that you live near work.
@@kaitlyn__L The rail service has been massively reduced, the network used to be huge but so many lines were closed because they didn't make profit, as if that's the only purpose of a railway or something. Less trains on each track too, for the same reason, you make more money cramming more people onto less trains.
@@kaitlyn__Lit's definitely not because it's cheaper
Our lovely grandad he is missed by us all everyday a true gentleman x
Spud is now a ticket machine.
And occasional swat teams of thugs in hi-vis jackets.
The mobile phone is what Spud is becoming.
Amazing what updates in cosmetic surgery can accomplish
😞
Those were the days when people knew your name and were courteous too
Spud - fantastic. Making his little corner of the world better, bit by bit - if only more people took his approach to life. Lovely.
I'd love to see what he's doing now! Is he still there?
@@dommidavros2211 highly unlikely as the programme was made in 1976 and he was well into his 50s then.
No Spud today... the station in now unmanned - ticket office closed in the 1980s and Spud with it
@@danielf1313 Well where's he working now?
Hammed up for the camera no doubt.
I'm glad even the Beeching cuts could not defeat Spud.
Please say there's a blue plaque to Spud at that station...what an absolute star
Just eccentric Britain at its best. The long hot summer of 76' spud=legend
The interview with the station announcer over the tannoy is genius
It wasn't really over the tannoy, they just added the echo and reverb in post production. You can see when she's actually announcing she's holding the tannoy button.
Sorry, a career in film and TV makes you notice these things and spoils everything!
@@ricjuk I don't have a career in film and TV but admittedly doubted she was actually speaking to him that way.
@@ricjuk Never the less, it was still genius!
Also featured in the Dick Emery movie from the 1970s.
@@davidmeyer188 "You want to take a photo of my bum?!" Great film.
Always love the long-distance shots with the presenter apparently talking to himself, and those around him looking perplexed as if he's just escaped from an institution
I keep expecting 1976 to look more dated but it constantly surprises me how it doesn't. It still looks like modern society. The station signs even look way ahead.
Yes. The bored look of commuters in London is the same. The clothes don’t look dated at all. I think this would have filmed over the hot summer of 1976.
Haha! That's because our rail service has largely stagnated since the 80s
@@noahhughes2501 😂😂😂😂😂 Yes but fares are not at the 1980s price bracket.
I love how everyone is insisting "things looked the same" when they certainly did not from a couple crucial perspectives.
People forget most had social media accounts, mobiles and laptops and there was a basic internet shopping offering from most retailers albeit with a smaller range of products than in recent times. But in general the experience of daily life was remarkably similar.
People moaned like hell about British Railways in the 1970's. With the state of the railways in 2024, I bet people would go back to 1970's British Railways in a heartbeat!
Not sure, the problem with BR was it was entirely reliant on government for its funding and that led to horrific lack of capital investment from 60s to late 80s. Would a new BR be any different?
No, they wouldn't.
@@mirzaahmed6589well we will see. Because it’s about the happen under an incoming Labour government.
Truly, a lost world. 😞
I loved the old slam-door trains with their individual compartments where you could stick your head out of the window. Happy days
The seating in the carriages was so much nicer back then compared to today's rail travel.
Absolutely! Around the Dorking area they had very springy bouncy seats.
They were less concerned about fire safety back then.
Like sardines now
@@MurphyOCP-001 Remember proper bin men? Today's snowflakes are so worried about being burned to death, we just got on with it, health and safety gone mad.
They still used those trains until around 2005. I remember the decline beginning around 2003 and it'd be increasingly special if you got to ride on one. They were infinitely cosier and comfier than the brightly lit, uncomfortable and plastic rubbish that replaced them.
The announcer Margaret Knight was getting ideas above her station. I’ll get me coat.
How dare you make a joke that funny 😄
It wasn't that funny - mind you I did laugh...😂@@RenegadeSound
Priceless 😂
a very attractive 1970s woman was Margaret
I love this channel reminds me why the UK was such a fabulous country.
Yes….WAS.
Was
And now it's Somalia with added jihad.....thanks Blair.
You guys are complaining from few thousands of immigrants that came after your armies destroyed their countries… quite hypocritical
Was…
RIP Bernard Falk BBC presenter
1943 - 1990
He was only 47? Damn.
He was young
@@garryleeks4848
He had a dodgy ticker.
@@jamesdean1143 He looks older than 33 in that video
Everyone is talking about Spud, but the absolute poise and eliquence of Michael is incredible! The model English gentleman if ever I saw one
what a charming little video! as a gen Z it’s always fascinating to glimpse into the past like this. spud seemed like an absolute sweetheart, RIP
Bless you Spud. A unique level of respect and service to the paying passenger. None of this level of care given today in our un-staffed platforms. How regressive and so sad.
Those seats had a distinct smell, as did the carriages, and also the doors had a specific “clunk”.
Lot’s of things one just take’s for granted then one day they are all gone
Those apostrophes that you added to "lots" and "takes" don't belong there. Please remove them forthwith.
Trains have a distinct smell now... probably different to the one you meant though...
May god if only all South-eastern Rail Staff were like Spud, they should use this as a training film.
They're all immigrants now
@@joedimaggio3146 And that has a bearing on their customer service ability? No.
What does though is that taking time to be a daily pleasantry is not nearly compensated for in pay and that I'm sure rail companies and their shareholders would throw a fit if they saw someone showing compassion and not charging people for the privilege.
I see where Jago Hazzard gets his style. At the start I thought it was one of his videos.
Margaret is now an automated message
ahhhh this is such a wonderful video and brings back many memories. the newspapers, the smoking, no mobile phones and the old slam door emu units on the southern…. and those orange curtains and first class compartments…amazing good days!!
2:05 love it how people were just jumping off the train as it's still moving into the platform. Different time.
Also... Please keep posting these little time capsules! I was born in '92, and I find all this stuff before my time to be absolutely fascinating! The BBC has a treasure trove of history in its archives O_O
Slam those doors open!
in India you can see people climbing to the top of the train as it moves as well.. even today!
Yeah I remember doing that, had to get your timing just right!
@@markhouse256 I think you can slam things *shut*, not open...
@@AtheistOrphan Sounds like fun to me! But I can see where someone could get their leg caught or trip and this would be a hazard. Obviously it's MUCH safer to do it the way we do now, but I can't help but think it would be fun to at least try this :)
This is absolutely brilliant "Corporate image BR" era footage. Peak BR you could say. Everything in standard blue or blue/grey, standard rail typface and double arrow symbols everywhere. Captures the hum drum (you could say drab) look of 70s commuting experience perfectly. Hum drum that is except for characters like Spud Murphy who take that level of pride in what they do. He was absolutely in his element, and it showed! Today the station would be unstaffed most likely and you'd get your tickets either via a card-only payment machine or via an app. Progress....?
Keep adding content like this, I was a happy 10 year old in 1976 with the world at my feet. Things like this make me reflect back to a happier time where I had my whole family around me.
I love comments like yours: an old man who yearns for ‘simpler times’, using modern technology to do so. What a sad little man you are.
I was in my last year at school. Never took the time to think what life would be like in 2024. Beyond my comprehension 😊
@@TheMusicalElitistC U Next Tuesdxy
This was a strangely poetic way to look at commuting and almost feels ahead of its time in 1976. Also, the Helvetica font is literally being used for everything in this video!
Helvética is the 70s….
It's BR's own typeface, Rail Alphabet
@@Dunkcanio anything and everything from 1965-1992 used the typeface
Ah, slam door carriages! I was a kid in 1976 but still grew up to commute (for a few years) on the damn things. So glad to get out of London in the mid-eighties.
congratulations
I was born in the 80s
London must have changed a lot from the mid 70s to the mid 80s
@@JayJay-nc7pr
Oh yea very much
You'd hop off as the train pulled in, had to time it just right though or you could fall flat on your face!
The comb over really is a lost art.
😂😂😂
Needs to make a comeback 👍
@garryleeks4848
Do you mean a comb back?
Bobby Charlton and others
Good ol' Spud
Love seeing these old trains. I was 7 in 1976. My dad would often take me to London Waterloo for days out. I was obsessed with trains. These days I find this same journey torturous.
spud my beloved
What’s a bizarre line to take.
Commuted on the Brighton line from 1980 to 1990 and it was thoroughly enjoyable - buffet cars, card games, chess.More fun than working.
Spud is true customer service amazing
That's a country I would like to visit.
Spud brought me to tears!! Utter legend!
I wish we still had "Spuds" at stations today.
You can often get a friendly face at the station cafe
love these BBC films thanks for sharing them
These days Spud would be charged with stalking for phoning people.
Spusd Murphy, should be remembered as a national hero. Spuds Commuters club! Imagine a morning call from the station master! WOW!
this feels like I am time traveling
Spud commuters club , wonder if it’s still going, good old spud
Bless Spud! Fly high lovely fellow!
Spud gave me advice on constructing a rockery.
"Sits in isolated splendor, 13 feet above the station"
British reporters of yesteryear had a knack for words.
“Some will pay up to £1000 a year for a season ticket”.. wow and that was in 1976 when houses in Manchester and Liverpool were still like £5000. That’s an expensive season ticket
£1000 in 1976 is the equivalent of just over £6400 in 2024.
I can remember that being broadcast! It was the lady in the booth talking back to the reporter using the PA (although I can see now it was not real) that jogged the memory.
The world needs more Spuds!!
I thought this would be quite dull but it was a lovely piece of footage, Spud is a delight, and every station should have a Spud U Like lol (90s joke) and the writerly creativity of the commuters, plus the old solicitor chap was very much like my much missed grandfather in his demeanour and speech. Wonderful stuff. The attractive lady announcer in the booth had such a nice voice as well.
The country had standards......things weren't dumbed down as much.....
"Morning ! Just making sure you're up, don't want you to miss your train !" "Bugger off, Spud, it's my day off."
Brilliant xD
😂
Hahaha! 😂😂😂
Or he’s got his Mrs Bent over.
Even railway enthusiasts hate commuting, unless their train is a class due to be withdrawn from service soon, people tend to only treasure things when they are gone. 😉
Witness the baffling affection for the atrocious and wholly without-redeeming-features Pacers here in the UK. Goodbye to them - and good riddance.
love the little snippets of Morgenspaziergang in this
It's programmes like this that make you realise we're closer to the 70s than we realise - daily routines have hardly changed.
With one difference…the human touch is almost completely gone
If you pay closer attention you'll realise that other than the buildings and rails being in the same place, and that people still commute, literally everything else has changed. From the technology through to the people themselves and how we interact today. People are complete strangers today and the cohesion in the society you see in the video is now completely vacant.
Oh yes 1976 when Britain belonged to the Brits those days sadly are long gone
I’d love to see John Cleese dressed as a policeman and arresting the reporter who is screaming in the middle of the platform. He could even come into the scene as the Minister of Funny Walks.
I like you
Or blakey off the buses
Oh, I doff my cap to Spud.
3:19 - I imagine people around the station were a little confused to hear Margaret's one-sided conversation broadcast on the tannoy!
the sound of all those wooden doors slamming. Simply sensational
What a gent Spud was, if only stations had workers like him now.
Also crazy to see passengers could smoke on the trains back then!
What a lovely piece of history
Absolutely amazing! Thanks
Who or what replaced Spud. Hard shoes to fill.
Love it .....and love Spud...the good old days!
what a nice country England used to be
Love the bit at 0:34 where the train leaves as they're interviewing him haha
Probably a banker
Amazing bloke, what an ambassador for B.R.
What a remarkable guy Spud was
Michael Gilbert’s novels are being republished in the British Library Crime Classics series.
That was me in '76 - although my journey was less arduous from the suburbs of London it still eat into the day especially in winter when you never saw the sun during the week.
So well spoken
Brilliant Mr. Spud❤
We need spud now more than ever.
I was 21 back in them days. It seemed like I had forever but now I fear tomorrow.
Lots of us feel like this I suspect though I was 12 at the time (and an avid trainspotter), so a little behind you.
Wow. Spud is soo sweet
The wonderful Michael Gilbert scribbling away there, I have just read his Game Without Rules book of short stories.
we grew up in Benfleet ... was great seeing this
I love the use of the midsection of Rossini’s Thieving Magpie overture here
I thought it was from The last track on Kraftwerk's autobahn album
Great video. Seeing the crowds at Waterloo and comparing with today makes the demographic change that has taken place since then quite stark.
But apparently it's a "conspiracy theory" if you notice it
It's quite shocking
Ironically Waterloo is one of the places where it’s least visible, given where the trains head to from there
@@fiverZliterally no one calls it a conspiracy theory - anything you can check in the census is not a conspiracy theory my friend 😂
@@retrodude123 It does get called a conspiracy theory...
This is wonderful. Spud I like.
It's remarkable how little the look of commuting has changed in 46 years.
Try more than 150 years! It was similar in the latter half of the 1800's. The modern world and commuting was created in the UK for better or worse.
Not so bad in first class on slam door stock, the high-density coaches were another matter. Especially on narrow clearance lines with bars on the window. Every seat had a door and people clambered over you at every station. Loved the horsehair and moquette though.
Spud is a legend
I remember the full through carriage compartments on the Liverpool st to Southend Victoria line. Some of them used to smell damp. I recall getting into one a bit too late and the occupants had to help me in to save me from falling from a moving train.
Stunning they had doors to compartments the rider could open! OMG. Quaint, civil dangerous (?)
I used to go to college for 3 years on the slammers in Kent in the mid to late 90s. I still miss the smell and sound of them not to mention they were far more comfortable than anything modern.
Fabulous
A first class compartment! If only we could see luxuries like that today.
They don’t make them like spud anymore.
0:26 - oh mate, you have no idea how bad it is now. The LUXURY you had then. At least you have a seat!
Excellent film.
Great film! Interesting variety of rolling stock.
Indeed, including some of the high density VEP units complete with curtains throughout and Kent Coast route CEPs before their 1980s refurbishment.
I like that they used to be able to open the doors before the train had fully stopped
Spud seems like a sweetheart
It is amazing to see the Home Counties and London full of English people, I had almost forgotten what it was like before the age of mass-immigration.
“Overcrowded carriage” with nobody standing and people sitting on comfy armchairs.😂
and no mobiles. People actually talked. Hardly any people of colour you might get the odd staff or cleaner
women were secretaries and trolley dollys
They weren't comfy armchairs unless you forked out for first class. The 2+3 seating in a 1950s vintage BR suburban carriage was horribly cramped, and you got trodden on and blasted by the weather every time the train stopped at a station.
why are you nostalgic for no ethnic minorities?@@veggie42
I recognised East Farleigh immediately as it was one of my train stations when I worked for Southeastern before I moved abroad 4 years ago.
Basically I did what Spud did but I had 10 train stations and had to try get to them all during a 7hour 12 minute shift. I only had time to quickly clean, put up posters about engineering work (on Mondays) and check/ do general maintenance on the ticket machine so I could never have offered the service Spud did.
I did work with some people who would have worked with Spud and they all would talk about how it was much better and happier working on the railway in the past.
The station building when I was there was used by the signalman I didn't have access to it but it's not in the best of condition.
That’s such a shame, and doubtless a symptom of “rationalisation” and cost cutting. “Why do we need all these full-time station managers when we could pay only one to drive around the area?” 🤦♀️