I don't have a NAS, but I do have 4 external drives and my iMac's internal drive and I use Backblaze. My total backup is just shy of 6 TB. I have a consumer account and pay just under $10 per month for unlimited. I've used them for years and really like it. There have been a couple hiccups over the years, but their support has been helpful and I've been able to get any issues resolved. The most recent one had to do with the naming of hard drives and it essentially required me to do a new backup. It did take a few weeks with my fairly slow upload connection, but it eventually finished and has been rock solid ever since.
I like the idea of cloud backup. It's certainly more redundant, safer, fully and professionally managed, but you obviously pay for it. At $60+ / TB / year, it doesn't take long before you've paid for another NAS. At least with a NAS you own it. Of course you have to manage it, replace bad drives, worry about theft, natural disasters, geo-redundancy, etc. You really have to decide how valuable your data is. At just 10 TB (easy to get to with a bunch of photos and videos) you're looking at $800+ a year to rent storage. Over the course of a decade that's $8,000. If it's critical business data, it makes sense. If it's family photos, perhaps going back to printed photos and a photo album doesn't sound so bad. 😀 You definitely have to pick your poison and weigh your options with this stuff. I don't want to lose my 30+ TB of stuff, but I'm also not keen on paying $1,800+ a year to rent storage somewhere.
Yeah, I’ve got 20 TB and I’m not keen to spend that much just for cloud backups. I’m thinking just buying another NAS and doing remote backup at my parents house
@@panman2632 That's what I ended up doing, except I still have the NAS local. Unfortunately I don't know anyone I could trust to keep my NAS safe at their place. But it's better than nothing.
iDrive has worked flawlessly for me on a Synology NAS. I don't remember how long it took to upload 8TB but it wasn't more than a couple of weeks. I do have fiber gigabit internet with AT&T so no bottlenecks on my end. The best part is that the plan I'm on is only $99 annually per year.
HI, thanks for very great video, for any of the cloud NAS backup solutions, can you restore your files from cloud, without having a NAS..... so can you get to your files if you no longer has the NAS, or is it stored in some NAS-backup-specific format?..... so can you actually just download your backed up files to you computer and get to your files?
I only need 2-3TB I can keep that on my main machine, veeam backup to the NAS and do $10/no for the personal with 1y retention. I thought it was bad that it took 4 days! It capped at 6Mbit I have 42Mbit down and 1.5Gbit down. A lot of my data isn't important enough id have to redownload apps and stream for lost shows. 10-15TB it's just a hassle not a loss.
Great video, Pete! Backblaze for the win for me! I don't have a NAS, but I do have about 10TB of data across multiple drives and RAIDs... All backed up locally and with Backblaze. The peace of mind I have knowing I'm covered if one of my drives die is worth it.
Backblaze offers free egress if you choose to download via CDN, so that would eliminate your extra $135 download cost and in turn wouldn't CDN download also improve your restore speed?
@@CharlesKerr like outgoing traffic so downloads from the server to your PC (such as restoring a backup) and ingress would be upload or incoming traffic to the backup server.
I'd rather do local mirroring in the same NAS. It feels wasteful at large capacities, until you think about the price BB and others want. It would still protect against most drive failures. For really important stuff, it can go on a small server somewhere else or just chugged on icloud or similar in an encrypted container. BB and C2 seem much more business oriented - and for a business that needs it, 5$ a month pr TB is peanuts.
@@PeteMatheson could you help with a quick question? I have 20TB on a Mac OS journaled formatted drive. If I upload this to Backblaze, can I re-download the data at a later date to a windows workstation with a NTFS drive? We are moving from Mac to windows and I am trying to back up data and do a migration at the same time 👍🙂
Nah, for home users any cloud backup for a NAS is out of reach. Go USB or another NAS, an old one can do the trick. My dad bought one and I’m planning to buy one as well. We’re going to backup our NASes reciprocally
@@joshnlevinson It's sad but I don't trust anyone with my drives. At least my father's NAS will keep a copy of my stuff at his home while my photos are backed up on my 1TB OneDrive.
Hi Pete, you discourage people to use iDrive for backing up NAS drive. However, you yourself tried to backup 13TB, which is quite unusual for most of us. I myself backed up my Synology NAS (400GB) with iDrive performing a upload speed of appr. 5GB/hour. Smooth, without errors. I saw iDrive runs also servers in Europe. Perhaps you experienced the curse of UK stepping out of Europe? 😜. Best wishes, Mark from The Netherlands
Backblaze does a flat rate $70/year unlimited backup plan for personal use. So it works out much cheaper than $66.77 as you store more.
That’s for workstation backups and doesn’t cover NAS volumes. But yep, it’s great value!
I don't have a NAS, but I do have 4 external drives and my iMac's internal drive and I use Backblaze. My total backup is just shy of 6 TB. I have a consumer account and pay just under $10 per month for unlimited. I've used them for years and really like it.
There have been a couple hiccups over the years, but their support has been helpful and I've been able to get any issues resolved. The most recent one had to do with the naming of hard drives and it essentially required me to do a new backup. It did take a few weeks with my fairly slow upload connection, but it eventually finished and has been rock solid ever since.
Nice! Great to hear thank you 👍🏼
Yeah as long as they’re local hard drives then you can do the unlimited backup, bargain!
I like the idea of cloud backup. It's certainly more redundant, safer, fully and professionally managed, but you obviously pay for it. At $60+ / TB / year, it doesn't take long before you've paid for another NAS. At least with a NAS you own it. Of course you have to manage it, replace bad drives, worry about theft, natural disasters, geo-redundancy, etc. You really have to decide how valuable your data is. At just 10 TB (easy to get to with a bunch of photos and videos) you're looking at $800+ a year to rent storage. Over the course of a decade that's $8,000. If it's critical business data, it makes sense. If it's family photos, perhaps going back to printed photos and a photo album doesn't sound so bad. 😀 You definitely have to pick your poison and weigh your options with this stuff. I don't want to lose my 30+ TB of stuff, but I'm also not keen on paying $1,800+ a year to rent storage somewhere.
Yeah, I’ve got 20 TB and I’m not keen to spend that much just for cloud backups.
I’m thinking just buying another NAS and doing remote backup at my parents house
@@panman2632 That's what I ended up doing, except I still have the NAS local. Unfortunately I don't know anyone I could trust to keep my NAS safe at their place. But it's better than nothing.
Great video and I hate to quibble but you have one glaring error here and that is that 1 TB of C2 Storage is $79.95 a YEAR, not a month!
iDrive has worked flawlessly for me on a Synology NAS. I don't remember how long it took to upload 8TB but it wasn't more than a couple of weeks. I do have fiber gigabit internet with AT&T so no bottlenecks on my end. The best part is that the plan I'm on is only $99 annually per year.
Same deal here but i was able to upload 4TB in about a day and a half
If everything goes wrong and you need your data back for your business ASAP, just have Backblaze send you your data on a USB drive.
very helpful when you mentioned how long it took to upload 10TB. I have 5 so it would take me what a week and a half?
Nice video. I have 36TB of archives to backup... any tips for best case service, price and access if every needed?
Hey Pete Would love to know what are those Amazon options for USB drives. Cheers 😊
HI, thanks for very great video, for any of the cloud NAS backup solutions, can you restore your files from cloud, without having a NAS..... so can you get to your files if you no longer has the NAS, or is it stored in some NAS-backup-specific format?..... so can you actually just download your backed up files to you computer and get to your files?
I use IDrive e2 storage for Veeam backup, with high speed and no problems.
I only need 2-3TB I can keep that on my main machine, veeam backup to the NAS and do $10/no for the personal with 1y retention. I thought it was bad that it took 4 days! It capped at 6Mbit I have 42Mbit down and 1.5Gbit down. A lot of my data isn't important enough id have to redownload apps and stream for lost shows. 10-15TB it's just a hassle not a loss.
Great video, Pete!
Backblaze for the win for me! I don't have a NAS, but I do have about 10TB of data across multiple drives and RAIDs... All backed up locally and with Backblaze.
The peace of mind I have knowing I'm covered if one of my drives die is worth it.
how long it took you on the first upload of the 10TB? I have 5TB and 11.8 MBPS upload time
Have you seen b2 in EU data centre. Sadly you can't create a bucket in either zone like s3 you need to make another account
video i've been waiting for! Newbie NAS guy here
🙌🏼 Be sure to back it up!
I’ve started deleting a-roll and just keeping the b-roll library
@@PeteMatheson would love a workflow video :). How I manage files, folders, and backups with my NAS to minimize wasting space
But what about the IDrive S3 offering? Or Wasabi?
I thought Backblaze offered an option for cloud in EU or US?
I use Amazon Glacier to be the cheapest for storage and very expensive if you want it tomorrow but not bad if you can wait a week for the data.
Backblaze offers free egress if you choose to download via CDN, so that would eliminate your extra $135 download cost and in turn wouldn't CDN download also improve your restore speed?
What’s free egress?
@@CharlesKerr like outgoing traffic so downloads from the server to your PC (such as restoring a backup) and ingress would be upload or incoming traffic to the backup server.
All cloud storage charges for data download. Backblaze is free for download.
I'd rather do local mirroring in the same NAS. It feels wasteful at large capacities, until you think about the price BB and others want. It would still protect against most drive failures. For really important stuff, it can go on a small server somewhere else or just chugged on icloud or similar in an encrypted container. BB and C2 seem much more business oriented - and for a business that needs it, 5$ a month pr TB is peanuts.
Which one would you go for?
Backblaze, cause you can request your data on a drive for restore
Love this!
Very helpful, thank you 👍
Welcome!
@@PeteMatheson could you help with a quick question?
I have 20TB on a Mac OS journaled formatted drive. If I upload this to Backblaze, can I re-download the data at a later date to a windows workstation with a NTFS drive? We are moving from Mac to windows and I am trying to back up data and do a migration at the same time 👍🙂
Love the live chapter markers 🔥
Ya I have 22+ tb can’t afford this loool
what if i just want to store 100 gb do i have to pay for 1 tb?
These seem expensive for just 13TB. $700+ a year would buy a lot of external hdd.
Since when is the UK not in Europe? It was wedged in between Ireland and the mainland the last time I looked on a map LOL
Who knows where we are now with this silly government!
Nah, for home users any cloud backup for a NAS is out of reach. Go USB or another NAS, an old one can do the trick. My dad bought one and I’m planning to buy one as well. We’re going to backup our NASes reciprocally
The problem is this doesn't cover fire, theft, etc., unless you keep a drive offsite, which is either a pain or not possible for many.
@@joshnlevinson It's sad but I don't trust anyone with my drives. At least my father's NAS will keep a copy of my stuff at his home while my photos are backed up on my 1TB OneDrive.
Hi Pete, you discourage people to use iDrive for backing up NAS drive. However, you yourself tried to backup 13TB, which is quite unusual for most of us. I myself backed up my Synology NAS (400GB) with iDrive performing a upload speed of appr. 5GB/hour. Smooth, without errors. I saw iDrive runs also servers in Europe. Perhaps you experienced the curse of UK stepping out of Europe? 😜. Best wishes, Mark from The Netherlands
You're still in Europe. You're just not in the European Union ;)
Just found your channel. So funny! Keep it up.