Has Luka Doncic hurt his star stock in the Finals? Stephen A. & Perk DISAGREE 👀 | First Take

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  • @Ballin-97
    @Ballin-97 3 месяца назад +237

    So does this also hurt the star stock of Ant and SGA since they lost to Luka? These conversations are dumb and exhausting

    • @anthonyclick893
      @anthonyclick893 3 месяца назад

      It’s been established it only hurts if you lose in the finals

    • @slimvickins5059
      @slimvickins5059 3 месяца назад +8

      Nope and we all know why

    • @sanzo21
      @sanzo21 3 месяца назад +7

      ofc not. they have their minds set on a narrative.

    • @DeerayYoDaddy
      @DeerayYoDaddy 3 месяца назад +18

      Different situations, this was ants and SGAS only real deep playoff run….Luka has been to the conference finals before and had multiple runs. Plus Luka is much better than them both. Don’t be blind

    • @upshot_9928
      @upshot_9928 3 месяца назад +8

      They didn’t lose in the finals he did

  • @anthony.santiago
    @anthony.santiago 3 месяца назад +192

    They pump the brakes with Luka but called Anthony Edwards the next MJ.

    • @jamesonedwardsii4943
      @jamesonedwardsii4943 3 месяца назад +21

      Edwards is charismatic and 22 years old. You dudes just hear MJ and act like MC on “touch my body”. No one thinks he’s going to leap MJ they just have similarities personality wise.
      Now I do HIGHLY doubt Antman at 25-26 however old Luka is would NOT be single handed bringing down his teams entirely defense while averaging 2 points in the finals fourth quarters and 3 TOs. The man averages more TOs in the 4th than points……
      This is why i was glad Ant didn’t make the finals this year 😭

    • @vernejacobs6019
      @vernejacobs6019 3 месяца назад +21

      The Joker was the greatest until they lost. Then they started talking about Edwards and they changed their minds again when the Timberwolves lost. Then Luka became the greatest until this series. Get the picture?

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 3 месяца назад

      Edwards competes unlike crybaby Luka clown

    • @focuz4899
      @focuz4899 3 месяца назад +4

      They're speaking more about Ants mannerisms are like MJ's. He's definitely not MJ.

    • @SpaceJamSunny
      @SpaceJamSunny 3 месяца назад +7

      Ant man plays on both ends of the floor I can tell you don’t listen lmaooooooo

  • @crayzmusic
    @crayzmusic 3 месяца назад +231

    Can somebody tell them they blamed kyrie now Luka....BLAME the Celtics! Stop degrading the Mavs to cope with Celtics being better

    • @ChinoHills-qt4xc
      @ChinoHills-qt4xc 3 месяца назад

      No Luka has been one of the worst defenders in history. James Harden got it way worse while being a better defender. Suck it up buttercup Celtics in 4

    • @zeppelinmexicano
      @zeppelinmexicano 3 месяца назад +9

      Agree that the Cs have caused a lot of the problems we're seeing out of the Mavs, but when you leave a Sam Hauser wide open in the corner without even trying to cover him, that is on Luca and only Luca. It's a pattern with him. He's fat, not in the best shape, and doesn't possess the mindset of a Larry Bird to show up on defense.

    • @crayzmusic
      @crayzmusic 3 месяца назад +9

      @@zeppelinmexicano it was enough to win the west. And Hauser being a dead eye shooter also adds to Celtics being better. As you can see, leaving a shooter open doesn't always mean they score

    • @yungog2o3
      @yungog2o3 3 месяца назад +4

      If you watched the game Celtics were targeting Luka he committed 3 dumb fouls and tried tot air a charge knowing he got his 5th foul with 4 mins left it’s his fault he knew it was an elimination game and his team needs him should of never took the charge down 3 with 4 mins left

    • @wesroberts1983
      @wesroberts1983 3 месяца назад

      It’s unbelievable!

  • @CJ-yf2xm
    @CJ-yf2xm 3 месяца назад +149

    How can you hurt your star stock when you’ve got your team to the finals?…

    • @micahjohnson138
      @micahjohnson138 3 месяца назад +11

      Luka is the most ovverated player in History

    • @reinomeister
      @reinomeister 3 месяца назад +32

      ​@@micahjohnson138 that spot is reserved for Tatum

    • @Nerm176
      @Nerm176 3 месяца назад +9

      @@micahjohnson138yeah he’s so overrated he practically carried his team to the finals 🙄

    • @MCaul21
      @MCaul21 3 месяца назад +5

      Ask Tatum he seems to be punished for taking his team to the ECF and Finals and not winning. They say you're not a winner or don't have that killer instinct. It makes no sense. You're better off loosing in the first or second rnd according to the media and people in the comments

    • @jamesonedwardsii4943
      @jamesonedwardsii4943 3 месяца назад +3

      @@micahjohnson138I agree. These same guys praising him call Russ a stat padder for the same thing and hate on James Harden for the same thing. Luka will NEVER win a ring mark my words. He isn’t Jokic man.

  • @Trillchris9607
    @Trillchris9607 3 месяца назад +8

    Mavs won by 9 with Luka on the court. Mavs lost by 16 without Luka on the court.

    • @MathewDavis-c5q
      @MathewDavis-c5q 3 месяца назад +1

      ESPN isn’t the network to go to if you want facts and logic

  • @ludnqka
    @ludnqka 3 месяца назад +154

    HOW TF DOES SAS SOUND THE MOST REASONABLE TODAY

    • @315giants
      @315giants 3 месяца назад +5

      he just always plays the contrarian had perk n windy said what s.a.s said he woulda had they take

    • @PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUp
      @PetrodollarDealEndedSoWakeUp 3 месяца назад

      @@315giantshad THEIR (not THEY) take. Being ignorant and uneducated isn’t a flex. If you know the word CONTRARIAN, you’re too good for the shucking and jiving “intentionally ignorant” hood talk BS 🐂 💩 . ENOUGH. If you’re wise, why do something that has NO BENEFITS to you? When would you do that if you’re smart. NEVER. Only CONS, no PROS. BE BETTER.

    • @Javier-bs9nr
      @Javier-bs9nr 3 месяца назад +11

      Perk has always been a hater towards white players don’t forget what he said about jokic.

    • @asdfoio
      @asdfoio 3 месяца назад

      haha cause he doesn't totally believe everything he says. he's usually more passionate when he believes what he says to be correct

    • @ratherbdolo
      @ratherbdolo 3 месяца назад

      @@Javier-bs9nrwhat he say

  • @rigger49er
    @rigger49er 3 месяца назад +17

    This conversation is dumb. Why I didn’t hear the star stock drop when Lebron crumbled against the Mavs? I thought I heard these dudes say Ant was the next MJ. This is clownish to say the least.

    • @madhavrajesh8812
      @madhavrajesh8812 3 месяца назад +3

      Bron was crucified. Skip Bayless said that LeBron isn’t a hall of famer at that point after 2011. It took until game 6 2012 ECF until people started to trust him again

    • @davidkariuki5813
      @davidkariuki5813 3 месяца назад

      Bron is different and you know it ,he is the best

    • @rigger49er
      @rigger49er 3 месяца назад +1

      @@davidkariuki5813 he’s not the best! Stop it he’s not better than Jordan or Kobe

    • @rigger49er
      @rigger49er 3 месяца назад

      @@madhavrajesh8812 he was criticized but the same question that’s being asked of Luka stock wasn’t being asked. I was one of the guys talking about Bron but only when it came to the Jordan and Kobe talk. I never said he wasn’t a baller.

    • @Gurenn83
      @Gurenn83 3 месяца назад +1

      @@davidkariuki5813 Best at what? Flopping, complaining to the refs, crying, getting away with his traveling, bricking shots, acting as GM? If yes, then yeah I agree he is the best.

  • @SPRVLN27
    @SPRVLN27 3 месяца назад +13

    Crazy how someone can be the best player in the league one week and then have their star power debated the next. Keep it up, ESPN, you're doing great; no one is realizing that 99% of your content is fluff and junk.

  • @1RobertSmith
    @1RobertSmith 3 месяца назад +100

    Luka didnt hurt his own stock, the Celtics did by isolating him on the defensive end & showing the world his less than stellar defense on the biggest stage

    • @jamesonedwardsii4943
      @jamesonedwardsii4943 3 месяца назад +12

      Nah bro his 2 point average in the 4th quod the finals also hurt his stock. Man is averaging 2 points in the 4th and 3 TOs 😭😭😭

    • @micahjohnson138
      @micahjohnson138 3 месяца назад +3

      He cant be mvp after that he need ring just like tatum after the warrior

    • @1RobertSmith
      @1RobertSmith 3 месяца назад +6

      @@jamesonedwardsii4943 when you steadily get attacked on defense it takes some of the strength out of your offensive functioning which is exactly what you mentioned. You speak as if defense and offense aren't related

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 3 месяца назад +11

      I mean he was never a good defender they just expose that even more

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist 3 месяца назад +6

      sorry but this doesn't magically excuse how often he was on the ground, crying to the refs, and in no man's land on defense ball gawking instead of guarding the 3. He's been doing that since game 1. It's inexcusably bad defense

  • @nossenkanter
    @nossenkanter 3 месяца назад +80

    "A team that I didn't pick to make the Finals overachieves and gets there, but since they lose now it's a failure." - 🤡🤡🤡

    • @Gee_Morty..
      @Gee_Morty.. 3 месяца назад +4

      Sports journalism in a nutshell

    • @omandres
      @omandres 3 месяца назад +2

      Totally agree, these analyst are clowns 😃

  • @Blkfirst
    @Blkfirst 3 месяца назад +115

    Stephen A Smith hairline & eyebrows are distant cousins 😂😂

  • @sanzo21
    @sanzo21 3 месяца назад +17

    Ah yes, ESPN being reactionary as always.
    Last week they're all dickriding Luka and Kyrie as the best offensive backcourt ever, and now they're questioning if Luka is actually a superstar.
    How people still put value in these clowns' words are baffling.

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 3 месяца назад

      The fans were doing that before espn was, the fans were crying that Luka wasn't being mentioned with others as the best player in the league

    • @kashifsingh791
      @kashifsingh791 3 месяца назад +1

      You think this was just ESPN? Every comment on youtube, social media, etc... all were screaming Luka is the best. A certain demo wants to make Luka the best for obvious reasons

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 3 месяца назад

      @@kashifsingh791 yep, you're right

  • @rlino716
    @rlino716 3 месяца назад +52

    I feel like we didn’t really learn anything new from Luka this series. We already knew he was one of the best offensive players in the league, one of the worst defensively, and had difficulties controlling his emotions with refs. This finals simply reenforced all of these points.

    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 3 месяца назад +2

      Luka's defense is good and he is the only Mavs that delivered what we expected from him. The rest fell short of expectations.

    • @felipe5955
      @felipe5955 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tongobong1his defense is not good😂 They hunt him for match ups and just blow right by him

    • @back2back379
      @back2back379 3 месяца назад +2

      @@tongobong1 Delusional

    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@felipe5955 Luka is one of the top 5 Mavs defenders for sure and this is also the reason why he is playing 40+ minutes per game.

    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@back2back379 I just stated the facts.

  • @derikc24
    @derikc24 3 месяца назад +11

    Made the excuse for Embiid being hurt. Lukas been hurt all off-season and ballin, yet they never bring it up.

    • @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199
      @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199 3 месяца назад +2

      His injury is no where close to that of emdiid, people need to just stop with all this injury excuse if you ain't fit don't play, kwahi does it.

    • @memeguy0076
      @memeguy0076 3 месяца назад

      ​@@icantthinkofanamejustallow4199embiid didn't have a knee sprain bud

    • @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199
      @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199 3 месяца назад

      @@memeguy0076 nope just came back from a worse knee injury, wasn't fully recovered and had a half paralyzed face

    • @memeguy0076
      @memeguy0076 3 месяца назад

      @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199 see what you said? Exactly...he came off an injury but one that got fixed. Luka is playing on an injury that hasn't been fixed.

    • @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199
      @icantthinkofanamejustallow4199 3 месяца назад +1

      @@memeguy0076 embiid that was limping all over the place and was clearly wobbled, factored with a half paralyzed face was clearly more comprised than a luka who's supposedly more hurt but isn't limping anywhere to that degree. Plus the injury excuse should not be used for any of this players, if you're that hurt then don't play.

  • @rconley40
    @rconley40 3 месяца назад +14

    The Celtics are simple too deep & play excellent defense. As far Luka goes, he plays (offensive) for the foul & not the shot. Celtics coach exposed Luka defense.

  • @jmcooper2006
    @jmcooper2006 3 месяца назад +47

    Big Perk really called Luka a traffic cone. Savage.

    • @scapegoat413
      @scapegoat413 3 месяца назад +9

      Coming from a speed bump himself it means alot

    • @xavierb9061
      @xavierb9061 3 месяца назад +17

      Perk no doubt better defendr than luka

    • @Gee_Morty..
      @Gee_Morty.. 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@scapegoat413You mispelled champion

    • @RAJohns
      @RAJohns 3 месяца назад

      He’s an ogre per Draymond

    • @de4ds1ghtcsgo94
      @de4ds1ghtcsgo94 3 месяца назад

      Traffic cone put on wheels today😂

  • @mikethekidd_
    @mikethekidd_ 3 месяца назад +6

    Honestly, the biggest thing hurting his star stock is seeing him cry after every single play 😂 it’s extremely hard to watch

  • @christophercox936
    @christophercox936 3 месяца назад +6

    Haha Perk said Luka was a traffic cone. 😂😂😂

  • @notacat7127
    @notacat7127 3 месяца назад +14

    Perks jacket looks like a static filled tv when you’re moving the antenna searching for channels to get for free

    • @CrackaTrollingSince1990
      @CrackaTrollingSince1990 3 месяца назад +7

      You showing your age. Gen Z don't know nothin bout that lol

    • @callidawkins85
      @callidawkins85 3 месяца назад

      you over 35 yr old

    • @notacat7127
      @notacat7127 3 месяца назад

      @@callidawkins85 nah I’m not 30 yet

    • @notacat7127
      @notacat7127 3 месяца назад

      @@CrackaTrollingSince1990 don’t do me like that 🤣

    • @Rasira2023
      @Rasira2023 3 месяца назад

      LMFAO

  • @leetraviusmckay314
    @leetraviusmckay314 3 месяца назад +35

    "old man Al Horford moved better than Luka" 😂

    • @jamesonedwardsii4943
      @jamesonedwardsii4943 3 месяца назад +12

      He was locking Luka up on those switches 😭😭😭

    • @mura0
      @mura0 3 месяца назад

      thats what am saying. Imagine Luka in 5 years.

    • @jean-pierrek1529
      @jean-pierrek1529 3 месяца назад

      Give me a break. Close to 30 poimts a game while on pain killers and you complain. With you were a better player, Perk!

    • @charlescohen6140
      @charlescohen6140 3 месяца назад

      Not tonight.

  • @nlkoala9292
    @nlkoala9292 3 месяца назад +59

    Luka literally got injuries and still put a triple dub on the best team in the NBA in an away game.. meanwhile his teammates are complete dogshit this series

    • @thegreatestfinesser2338
      @thegreatestfinesser2338 3 месяца назад +12

      Celts in four 🧹

    • @Mateo-ph8wl
      @Mateo-ph8wl 3 месяца назад +19

      @@thegreatestfinesser2338he’s also averaging 2 points in the 4th quarter IN THE FINALS

    • @hado.uken_
      @hado.uken_ 3 месяца назад

      They pretending like they don't know he's hurt to run a narrative for this current news cycle. Why not say what might be more probably true. The Celtics are targeting him because they know he's hurt.

    • @Nick_a_ra_gua
      @Nick_a_ra_gua 3 месяца назад +16

      You are exposing yourself for not knowing hoops & just stat reading! He’s a liability on defense…. And he holds the ball way too long… it’s like 5 vs 4 on defense and 1 vs 5 on offense because he hands the ball in his hands way too long

    • @ubadman1
      @ubadman1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@Nick_a_ra_gua and the mavs are literally nothing without him. he's 25 or 26 no one wins as the best player at this age especially when this outmatched.

  • @Nimbus5
    @Nimbus5 3 месяца назад +25

    I'm hearing a lot hating, seems like they was waiting to pounce on Luka

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 3 месяца назад +8

      Nah, you just don't understand basketball or basketball media.
      Luka was primed to be crowned the best player in the world but the Celtics exposed all of his flaws while Luka exasperated all of his own flaws. He created his own downfall but he's young so he can still change and become a better player.
      Stay in school, kid.

    • @quentinjones6877
      @quentinjones6877 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@BaithNa right, this guy must've not been reading comments from Luka fans calling him the best player in the world

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@BaithNaluka choked

    • @Gee_Morty..
      @Gee_Morty.. 3 месяца назад +1

      The great white hope was exposed

    • @Nick_T_90
      @Nick_T_90 3 месяца назад

      @@BaithNathey were also the same people who were so quick to crown ant as face of the nba after the t-wolves beat Denver then the mavs beat the wolves just like how ant isn’t ready yet luka isn’t ready yet

  • @GdfhgDfg-xz7gf
    @GdfhgDfg-xz7gf 3 месяца назад +2

    They talked crazy about James harden in his prime like that they keeping the same energy.

  • @cedricspencer720
    @cedricspencer720 3 месяца назад +9

    This needs to be a standard for best player in the world status, you got to be at least a competent defender, that is not Luka right now

    • @Reaper13-hi3yo
      @Reaper13-hi3yo 3 месяца назад +3

      I would take your sentiment even further, to even be on the All Time Great lists, you need to legitimately have been a two way player. One way players cannot be called among the greats in the sport.

    • @cedricspencer720
      @cedricspencer720 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Reaper13-hi3yo agreed

    • @hottakes2633
      @hottakes2633 3 месяца назад

      @@Reaper13-hi3yoMagic and Steph are not two-way players but they are in that top 10 discussions. Luka’s defense just needs to be competent.

    • @Reaper13-hi3yo
      @Reaper13-hi3yo 3 месяца назад

      @@hottakes2633 I would prefer not to get in a comment war as I have had these debates several times. All I will to your comment is Steph is absolutely not Top 10 and I will leave it at that.

  • @ThoughtsOfLyes
    @ThoughtsOfLyes 3 месяца назад +10

    Beating 3 50+ win teams in the playoffs while doing it hurt while being 25 year old and reaching his first finals at this age...This mfk perk is a 🤡

    • @zeuswilliams5906
      @zeuswilliams5906 3 месяца назад

      He beat a clippers team with an injured Kawhi and known playoff chokers Harden and PG. Then beat a young and inexperienced Thunder squad with no legit second star and no playoff experience.
      I will give him credit for beating the timberwolves though.

    • @matteoricciardi3199
      @matteoricciardi3199 3 месяца назад +1

      @@zeuswilliams5906stop embarrassing yourself

  • @jeremybilly2376
    @jeremybilly2376 3 месяца назад +8

    Luka a traffic cone😂😂😂

  • @KewPie-ym2vu
    @KewPie-ym2vu 3 месяца назад +2

    Luka is being exposed in these finals as a major defensive liability and a constant whiner.

  • @ozmarik4676
    @ozmarik4676 3 месяца назад +4

    Perk saying we gotta calm down, when he was the one saying Luka was the best

  • @sunsfever83
    @sunsfever83 3 месяца назад +10

    Luka is not MJ, Kobe, Magic or any of the other greats. He doesn't and shouldn't even be in the same sentence. He is a good offensive player, that is it. Nothing more.

    • @mr.machina7107
      @mr.machina7107 3 месяца назад

      suns fan ofc

    • @hottakes2633
      @hottakes2633 3 месяца назад +4

      Luka is 25 btw, y’all talk about him like he’s in his mid 30s. He has a lot of time to grow. But yes, he’s shouldn’t be next to those names until he wins multiple chips.

    • @davis2k1234
      @davis2k1234 3 месяца назад

      Magic didn’t play defense either

    • @HopefulNihilist
      @HopefulNihilist 3 месяца назад

      You do know Magic was an one way player too, right?

    • @sunsfever83
      @sunsfever83 3 месяца назад

      @HopefulNihilist Magic did everything he needed to make sure his TEAM won. Correct me if I'm wrong, Magic is a champion right? No comparison, but nice thoughts.

  • @upshot_9928
    @upshot_9928 3 месяца назад +19

    No defense in the finals . This will be on his back til he gets one

    • @tongobong1
      @tongobong1 3 месяца назад

      Don't believe to lying media instead think and answer this question: would Mavs reach finals without Luka being good at defense? I don't think so.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@@tongobong1you must be new because tons of great players have damaged their stock by performing terribly in the finals. In Luka's case, all of his negatives were highlighted during every game of the finals and they just got worse over time.

    • @jamesrod4180
      @jamesrod4180 3 месяца назад

      Jason Tatum is a great example

  • @leetraviusmckay314
    @leetraviusmckay314 3 месяца назад +19

    "Luka's been a traffic cone defensively" 😂

    • @josenunez611
      @josenunez611 3 месяца назад

      That’s not funny they used that on Chris Paul already

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      ​@josenunez611 it's almost like it's a common term used in basketball 🤯

    • @josenunez611
      @josenunez611 3 месяца назад

      @@r.m.90 it’s not a common term

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      @@josenunez611 It is.

  • @Oldmanstillgotit
    @Oldmanstillgotit 3 месяца назад +21

    If the mavs scored more points than the Celtics then Dallas would’ve had more success against Boston

    • @Krlzr
      @Krlzr 3 месяца назад +5

      exactly been saying this.. all they need to do is score at least one point more than boston.. i mean how hard could that be.. just do that u be fine....

    • @315giants
      @315giants 3 месяца назад +3

      @@Krlzr yeah ur bro right they do that they prob win the finals ...these coaches dont get it and its so frustrating

    • @reggiemillz7533
      @reggiemillz7533 3 месяца назад +1

      Does not matter if you Mac’s score more defense wins championships….
      bottom line defebse wins championships. Sorry and Luka is not it

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      Thanks for that comment, Magic Johnson.

  • @Nick_a_ra_gua
    @Nick_a_ra_gua 3 месяца назад +21

    He’s just getting exposed on a bigger scale! Real hoop heads been telling yall about his defense, his ball stopping & whining to the refs not getting back on defense… he’s a great player but yall overrated him like yall always do with recency bias 😂

    • @zacharyminor9593
      @zacharyminor9593 3 месяца назад +2

      That's what they get for being on Luka nuts!!

    • @rockstar-ov4lp
      @rockstar-ov4lp 3 месяца назад

      Cry more racist pos .... Luka is the key reason the Mavs are in the finals. However, where is the Luka we saw against the Wolves, the one who hit the game-winner against Rudy and played solid defense? That version of Luka seems absent now. Against the Celtics, he's missing a lot of shots offensively, not to mention the defensive struggles. But I believe Luka will improve from this series and win a ring very soon.

    • @BaithNa
      @BaithNa 3 месяца назад +1

      It's more than that because he got exposed and then he doubled down on all of his bad tendencies. Luka was the reason they made it to the finals and he's the reason they're going to lose in the finals. We haven't seen a meltdown like this since Lebron in 2011.

    • @FearlessXcel
      @FearlessXcel 3 месяца назад +1

      @@BaithNayes we have, tf are you talking about, Luka still averaging close to 30

    • @kashifsingh791
      @kashifsingh791 3 месяца назад +1

      @@FearlessXcel with 30 shot attempts lmaoo thats not good

  • @zeppelinmexicano
    @zeppelinmexicano 3 месяца назад +11

    Best ISO player in the league doesn't make you the best player. Crying to the refs every five minutes also diminishes your stock. I don't remember Larry Bird ever doing that. This guy turns the ball over so many times that we should have a new stat called Total Offense Minus Turnovers. His triple doubles wouldn't look so awesome then!

    • @vulcanraven9701
      @vulcanraven9701 3 месяца назад +1

      Luka is a ballhog so he gets a lot of every stat and ppl start thinking hes all around just cuz his triple doubles.

    • @memeguy0076
      @memeguy0076 3 месяца назад

      You realize his points contributed- points given up by turnovers is still very high??? Lmao

  • @aevoh2318
    @aevoh2318 3 месяца назад +2

    Yall forgetting.. HE IS PLAYING HURT

  • @lowkeydmvprodigy2646
    @lowkeydmvprodigy2646 3 месяца назад +17

    Idk why the media has to try diminishing someone instead of just crediting Boston for their great team and execution

    • @tigerhoods7927
      @tigerhoods7927 3 месяца назад +2

      That’s what they do tear athletes down they be struggling to compliment anybody

    • @128JayB
      @128JayB 3 месяца назад

      Bro that's literally what the media does, create controversy in order to get clicks. We fall for it every time. Boycott espn

    • @ronenvavshet6949
      @ronenvavshet6949 3 месяца назад +1

      Because nobody cares about the good and u make money with the bad.

    • @TheForkOnTheLeftist
      @TheForkOnTheLeftist 3 месяца назад

      probably because anyone who actually watched the games knows they're not lying. is it more impressive to jack up a bunch of wide open 3s or is it more unforgivable to make it to the finals and not even play mediocre defense?

  • @NumericalWhimsy
    @NumericalWhimsy 3 месяца назад

    Never heard of another player being so intensely discredited for a legit attempt of taking a charge. SGA and ANT would be called heroes for that.

  • @nickt8148
    @nickt8148 3 месяца назад +6

    Windy and Perk make an all time wheezing team, 1 more cheeseburger and they gonna need an iron lung

  • @LambSauceWill
    @LambSauceWill 3 месяца назад +5

    The assist numbers say Luka is a great passer and playmaker but truthfully Luka is a rhythm killer.

  • @samuelfelix2577
    @samuelfelix2577 3 месяца назад

    “All we were hearing” Perk is tripping, all we heard was SGA MVP and Antman MJ. They didnt ask if luka was best player until game 5 vs wolves. ESPN always talking out of both sides of their mouths

  • @anthonybaker2199
    @anthonybaker2199 3 месяца назад +2

    No way this is a serious convo! Luka is a solidified megastar! He’s literally only playing at a -4 in this series! He goes to the bench the Celtics take off! So how’s it his fault? Why did they expect him to become a lock down defender all of a sudden?

    • @arealgoodguy
      @arealgoodguy 3 месяца назад

      If he goes to the bench because of foul trouble, it would be his fault.

    • @Fivestarbk6767
      @Fivestarbk6767 3 месяца назад

      Exactly.. lol smh

    • @gonzalorojo6815
      @gonzalorojo6815 3 месяца назад

      @@arealgoodguy he had foul trouble 1 game, what are you smoking

  • @MathewDavis-c5q
    @MathewDavis-c5q 3 месяца назад +1

    Luka is still the best player in the world. Anyone who says otherwise simply doesn’t understand basketball

  • @ryanhuffman7410
    @ryanhuffman7410 3 месяца назад +3

    Let's overlook Luka's many injuries, the fact he had zero help from his team in game 1. Only slightly more help in game 2 and had to deal with Tony Brothers awful officiating. Awful officiating in game 3 where Boston couldn't get a foul called on themselves even when they tried (White yanking on Hardaway Jr's arm while staring at the ref and pointing out that he was fouling and they just let White keep yanking on his arm through Hardaway Jr shooting a 3. Probably wouldn't have mattered anyway. I don't think Hardaway Jr has scored a single point the entire finals). The fact that the Mavs aren't really built to defend a team like Boston, yet have a defensive rating against Boston in playoffs that would be #1 in the regular season. Thr fact Luka had more made 3s than the rest of his team combined through the first two games. I could just keep going. Kidd's boneheaded coaching mistakes, like calling a second timeout when the Mavs had cut a 21 point lead to only 3 points and had just got another stop on Boston and had all the momentum. That timeout allowed Boston to settle down.
    Luka has been fantastic all playoffs long and has made some legendarily, clutch shots throughout the playoffs to get here by beating the 1, 3, and 4 seeds in the West.
    NBA media refuses to give Luka his due props. He averaged almost a 34-point triple-double this year and finished 7th in steals. If nearly any other player had one game like that, we'd have to hear "is this the next Jordan?" for weeks while they make excuses for all the following weak performances. But with Luka, if he even gets mentioned it's "and Luka was Luka."

    • @salviniradukunda5613
      @salviniradukunda5613 3 месяца назад +1

      Factssss💯💯 them Americans be hating on him af

    • @ryanhuffman7410
      @ryanhuffman7410 3 месяца назад

      @@salviniradukunda5613 I'm American and I don't get the hate. Luka is an absolute treasure. I'm just going to chalk it up to jealousy. That's what makes the most sense. The NBA media was crowning Anthony Edwards "lil Jordan" and every game said the Mavs couldn't beat the Wolves. Luka outscored Ant every game in that series if I remember correctly (and probably outrebounded and had more assists), no matter who tried to guard Luka and they gave Luka and the Mavs no respect. After every victory and after every series it was always "Luka and the Mavs won, but ....." and "the Mavs definitely aren't going to be able to win this next series."

    • @ryanhuffman7410
      @ryanhuffman7410 3 месяца назад

      @@xavierb9061 the only part of your comment I can decipher is you saying you think Brown and Tatum are better than Luka and Kyrie. You're either delusional or trolling. Either way, I don't feel like feeding into it.

    • @ryanhuffman7410
      @ryanhuffman7410 3 месяца назад

      @@xavierb9061 have a great day

  • @hoeelander
    @hoeelander 3 месяца назад

    Getting your team to a finals should never drop your star stock. What happened to everyone else that got eliminated before this point?

  • @DL13650
    @DL13650 3 месяца назад +1

    This guy took his team to the Finals at 25 when nobody expected him to, averages 30 in his first Finals against an objectively more superior team and people are saying his stock went down.. What is happening?

    • @peezydabeatmonster8112
      @peezydabeatmonster8112 3 месяца назад

      Averaging 30 ineffeciently taking 26 shots for 30 pts taking 27 shots for 27 pts averaging 4 pts in the 4th qtr of the finals 8 turnovers, 1 assist, and horrible defense yall look at stats without context

  • @jedimindtricks5713
    @jedimindtricks5713 3 месяца назад

    Luka before the Finals: Considered a top 1-5 player.
    Luka after the Finals: Considered a top 1-5 player.
    How does this hurt his stock? 😂

  • @supergold9390
    @supergold9390 3 месяца назад

    Bruh. Why is Jason Kidd the coach speaking as if the series is already over? I know he knows the odds but he is THE COACH.

  • @bc_qbeval
    @bc_qbeval 3 месяца назад

    The analysts are crucifying Luka to cover up the fact that they all picked the Mavs to win the series. They don't want to look like idiots, so the narrative has now become "Luka is the reason the Mavs aren't winning"...instead of admitting that the Celtics were a way better team from the start and that the series would likely be a gentleman's sweep at best.
    The Celtics have superior spot up 3 point shooting. Did people really think PJ Washington, Derrick Jones Jr, and an injured Maxi Kleber could keep pace with White, Horford, Holiday, Brown, and Hauser?
    Celtics have four All-NBA caliber defensive players, while the Mavs [maybe] have one.
    Celtics have four guys who can create their own shot, the Mavs only have two.
    Celtics have five competent playmakers, the Mavs only have two to three.

  • @phatch5444
    @phatch5444 3 месяца назад

    Lol in the 22 playoffs the media were crying how physical the Celtics were being with Steph. ☠️

  • @ydlee5888
    @ydlee5888 3 месяца назад

    Perkins is a fool. Mavs were never supposed to be still playing at this point. Doncic is basically playing with free money and he was the only one from that team that came to play first two games. Now he's all of a sudden the problem because Irving finally decided to come to play after pooping first two games? Are you kidding me?

  • @dimecanal
    @dimecanal 3 месяца назад +3

    How has he hurt his stock if he is the best player on the floor lol even tho he is loosing

  • @readmycomment3707
    @readmycomment3707 3 месяца назад +1

    The only thing exposed is refs favored Celtics

  • @ReynaldoAlcantara-pe2zb
    @ReynaldoAlcantara-pe2zb 3 месяца назад

    Ant Edward was supposed to be the face of the league. He was so out of shape and couldn’t do anything against this mavs but he didn’t get killed like Luka is. They kept saying it was always Rudy’s and Kats fault. Some of this guys on first take are full of hypocrisy.

  • @majorcarver3504
    @majorcarver3504 3 месяца назад +4

    I’ve been saying this forever. Offence is so easy to be enamoured by because of BIG NUMBERS on the stat line. But defence cannot be seen in the stats. Most defensive stats are useless, like player defensive rating. Both sides of the game are important. Luka is an all time great player, but if he wants to be in the top ten all time discussion he’s going to have to learn to play defence, either that or learn to play in a ball movement system like Curry where hero ball is not the focus so that your teammates can build their own rhythm for the game.

  • @torrisfairley3227
    @torrisfairley3227 3 месяца назад +1

    Luka screwed up in the finals.
    Lebron screwed up in the finals.
    Kobe screwed up in the finals.
    Magic screwed up in the finals.
    You can never say that about the bald guy in Chicago.

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      He had Pippen to clean it up.

    • @torrisfairley3227
      @torrisfairley3227 3 месяца назад

      @@r.m.90 Jordan was the engine that drove the Bulls to those championships, everybody knows this. Scottie did his part but he never did it on a MVP level.

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      @@torrisfairley3227 So players needed good teammates to win? Thanks for proving my point.

    • @torrisfairley3227
      @torrisfairley3227 3 месяца назад

      @@r.m.90 No its just that yall always bring up Scottie when it's pointless.

    • @r.m.90
      @r.m.90 3 месяца назад

      @@torrisfairley3227 What did MJ win without Scottie? Don't worry, I'll wait. It's amazing how you don't see how ironic your comments are.

  • @charmer711
    @charmer711 3 месяца назад

    It’s the Celtics fault. The Celtics said “Luka, we are your father” and exposed his flaws. 😂

  • @juicy0975
    @juicy0975 3 месяца назад +1

    I bet Rick Carlisle drinking a cool glass of iced tea bc what costed Luka the finals is what Rick tried to convey but he lost his job as coach. I have been off him since. Kidd did great! "Bought sense is the Best sense.'

  • @tarunnekkanti7439
    @tarunnekkanti7439 3 месяца назад

    No one calling out the under performance of the other 4 starters? They have offered nothing

  • @nikoshred2922
    @nikoshred2922 3 месяца назад

    Windhorst just bothers me. “Hasn’t played like an MVP” yet he’s dropping 30 a game while taking pain injections in his knee yet that gets glossed over when they talk about his defense. I’m sorry but if Kyrie came to the party in game 2 we’re having a different convo.

  • @callidawkins85
    @callidawkins85 3 месяца назад +1

    molly looking like wonder women

  • @nicholaschallita6446
    @nicholaschallita6446 3 месяца назад

    If Kyrie wasn’t an offensive liability the first two games we’d be having a different conversation

  • @MCLottotv
    @MCLottotv 3 месяца назад

    The problem with history is that past performance isn't indicative of future outcome. Right now he's another James Harden!

  • @flyingrocket3879
    @flyingrocket3879 3 месяца назад

    Perk could have shouted out the barber and made that man a bag. What a friend😊

  • @jefleismanman
    @jefleismanman 3 месяца назад

    It’s embarrassing they let Windy talk about athleticism

  • @I.am_Groot
    @I.am_Groot 3 месяца назад

    ESPN you are doing THE LEAST once again... Luka carried this team when they needed him and IS THE ONLY SUPERSTAR in the Finals. No shame on J Brown dude is a BEAST who has helped secure the Celtics a ring (go ahead and @ me when the series is OFFICIALLY over) but Luka has shown he is an MVP this playoffs

  • @micahhaney4118
    @micahhaney4118 3 месяца назад

    Does nobody understand what's going on here??? The Mavs are not the best team in the West!!! Luka and Kyrie have carried their team to the finals which is a feat in itself. Now Luka is broken down and injured and he hasn't been playing defense and people wanna bash him when its already incredibly impressive that they made it to the finals! People are acting like this is a first round exit.

  • @bmwjarodkb24
    @bmwjarodkb24 3 месяца назад

    Luka hasn't been 100% healthy since the Clippers series. I'm not saying it's a 100% excuse... but people should cut him some slack. The guy didn't miss a game in the playoffs and if you watched the other series he was limping running up and down the court. He was wincing in pain and making game winning shots and plays. I think Luka is the best player in the league and he will only get better. The Celtics have proved thus far that they are the best team at the moment though. Luka is 25 years old, don't forget that.

  • @RDBATM
    @RDBATM 3 месяца назад +1

    Luka has been over rated from the jump. He’s the equivalent of R. Westbrook a good stat stuffer but horrible team player.

  • @AATWT11
    @AATWT11 3 месяца назад

    Bruh the Celtics aren’t even scoring that many points. The Celtics were scoring 120+ on everyone else. The Mavs defense isn’t the problem it’s their offense. People just look to blame Luka for everything but the Mavs would’ve been the worst team in the west without him.

  • @Slumdankin1123
    @Slumdankin1123 3 месяца назад

    The Celtics were expected to win the championship all year! The Mavs weren't even expected to make the play in games in February! The mavericks weren't supposed to beat the clippers, the Mavs definitely weren't supposed to beat the thunder or the twolves! ESPN should try celebrating the greatness of Luka and what the Mavs have been able to accomplish instead of blaming someone who is averaging 30 points a game in the finals which is the most of any player in the finals! ESPN has lost all respect! ESPN is just a clickbait shockjock tabloid show that people watch to be entertained. We definitely don't watch ESPN to learn about sports anymore! ESPN is the tmz of pro sports!

  • @jheymann69
    @jheymann69 3 месяца назад

    Is so crazy how critical they are and how fast they are to burn European stars in this league.

  • @gianniortiz7109
    @gianniortiz7109 3 месяца назад +1

    Al being HOF is outa pocket lol

  • @DontCallmeLadale
    @DontCallmeLadale 3 месяца назад

    Luka has done EVERYTHING wake up and stop blaming the only person on the team who is actually playing up to his status. These media types are witch hunters bro

  • @LuisManzano-hs7nh
    @LuisManzano-hs7nh 3 месяца назад

    Perk said it correctly, at times Al moves faster than Luka. Luka looks overweight and slow, injured? Perhaps, but that does not stop him from putting extra effort into offense so he can cement his legacy as the highest scorer; however, the same attempt shall be made on his defensive side, which is the hardest part of the game. Mavs built this team around him so he would shine, but it has been obvious they try to hide the fact that Luka not only cannot defend but is not willing to do so. The team gets tired because of Luka's unwillingness to defend then the other 3 players have to cover for him (yes right, only 3 because Irving is not such a good defender either).

  • @ItsAJBro1
    @ItsAJBro1 3 месяца назад

    I agree with Perk. How are we calling these guys the BEST player in the WORLD and they’re only good on one side of the ball?

  • @jamesberkshire1278
    @jamesberkshire1278 3 месяца назад +1

    Why do we listen to mediocre nba players comment on world class players

  • @Anthel-gr7lp
    @Anthel-gr7lp 3 месяца назад

    Bro it's not Luka fault he needs better players around him Kyrie & Luka defense is making brown Tatum holiday look unstoppable

  • @emp6
    @emp6 3 месяца назад

    Funny how he can't be considered the best player in the world because he's a defensive liability all of a sudden. Yet they are quick to anoint Jokic as the best player in the world when he won a championship despite his lack of defensive prowess. If you want to use defensive criteria, the obvious choice is Giannis. He was and still is the best player in the world because he plays both sides.

  • @crookedspecz
    @crookedspecz 3 месяца назад

    If it was LeBron complaining he would be destroyed in the comments. Luka probably has the ref's cell number considering how much he talked to them during the game.

  • @kashifsingh791
    @kashifsingh791 3 месяца назад

    Nah, SAS, people were saying this about Luka since gm1 and gm2. Some of us were arguing with all these Luka is the best player nonsense after the Minny series. They made a highlight reel of Luka in GM 2 with his bad defense. People who watch the game intently have been pointing this out. Minny let him get away with this by not attacking him. Luka is not the best player, no where near. James Harden was doing this in Houston with better defense and he was never considered the BEST. We all know why some people want to see Luka as the best and face of the league, it's not rock and signs lol

  • @gam3rflow5
    @gam3rflow5 3 месяца назад

    the hate on this show for luka is WILD…”luka hasnt been the best player in the series” who has then? these games arent close if luka isnt scoring 30 a night for the mavs…and there talking about lukas defense like the defense is the reason the series is 3-1…the reason the series was 3-0 was the supporting lavs shooting about as well as me from
    3 and im at home….the defense isnt the issue when a team is scoring 106 a night if your giving up 106 a night and down 3-0 the problem is the offense not the defense and with luka averaging 29 a night hes not the offenses issue

  • @ericfavors7964
    @ericfavors7964 3 месяца назад

    The stock hasn’t dropped. y’all said he was the best player in the league not the fans or his peers. People that watch the NBA knows he’s not the best player in the league, by the way he never played good defense… they just made it to the finals this year……… he’s just getting exposed at the biggest stage for something he doesn’t do and it will cost them a ring

  • @purplesky4157
    @purplesky4157 3 месяца назад

    I never thought I’ll see the day Stephen A would defend Luka but here we re 😂😂

  • @mr.anderson3694
    @mr.anderson3694 3 месяца назад

    LBJ has cried, whined, and reacted for years. Luka should know better, but he's hardly the only one not acting his age.

  • @bartholomew1608
    @bartholomew1608 3 месяца назад

    The mavericks making it to the finals hurts the stock of every espn analyst except Tim Legler

  • @user-ne3kg5bi3k
    @user-ne3kg5bi3k 3 месяца назад +2

    Cuz called Luka a traffic cone😂😂😂😂😂

  • @hiker-uy1bi
    @hiker-uy1bi 3 месяца назад

    The Mavericks haven't been able to respond to Boston's incredible man defense. And the Mavericks' defensive scheme is poor. Rotating too late, doubling when unnecessary, leaving Celtics wide open for threes. These two things are why they're losing

  • @itzchichan
    @itzchichan 3 месяца назад

    First question is so stupid, how does Luka lose stock on his star power when he got them to the finals 😂

  • @thegreatestfinesser2338
    @thegreatestfinesser2338 3 месяца назад +8

    What Stephen A defending Doncic no way lol

    • @davidlondon7631
      @davidlondon7631 3 месяца назад

      If you notice, when debating you don't usually choose the same side. One guy usually picks one side and another the opposite. If y'all just agree on it then it will be pretty boring

  • @markokotnik1437
    @markokotnik1437 3 месяца назад

    You cant dismiss his injuries. Legitimate injuries.
    He cant do it on both sides vs this team. Tatum and Brown can rely on Derrick White,Jrue and others to score,he cant. Thats a major factor here. Boston stars have way less pressure on them.
    We can talk about his poor decisions and bad behavior in game 3,he may have cost them one game. That could be true. Injuries aside he still has to be a bit better

  • @quis.j6844
    @quis.j6844 3 месяца назад

    Just imagine if Jokic or Giannis had a moment like that in their run. Outside of game 3 he’s been fine. Boston is just too many good players

  • @MichaelMichaelJr
    @MichaelMichaelJr 3 месяца назад

    Perk and Windy are hating. Luka made mistakes but he has overall played well this series. Al Horford is not a Hall of Famer.

  • @karabomafa5609
    @karabomafa5609 3 месяца назад

    Magic Johnson never played both sides of the floor but he was the best in the game for a while

  • @NotebookLives
    @NotebookLives 3 месяца назад

    All of a sudden everybody agrees with the idea that “great players have to fail before they can succeed,” but that’s never their tone when it comes to LeBron James. Nobody gives him credit for going back-to-back after losing his first Finals. People undermine the fact that he took his lumps, went to 8 straight Finals, and beat the 73-9 Warriors & Tim Duncan Spurs. It’s only his failures that get highlighted, but now it’s all about the “journey”? Miss me with that. Ya’ll are hypocrites.

  • @theLethalRabbit
    @theLethalRabbit 3 месяца назад

    It's incredible how these media "personalities" are willing to enthrone an athlete to god-status at first (for example Antman being "the next MJ"), then make him solely responsible for his team's failure. Is this a symptom of american individualistic values, overcriticizing, or just inferior journalism? Meanwhile, Boston reminding everyone that basketball is a TEAM sport, a collective game. Luka is human and allowed to make mistakes, as everyone else - yes, even in the finals. If it weren't for him, his team wouldn't be there in the first place.

  • @Bilnation
    @Bilnation 3 месяца назад +1

    I love Luka Doncic game but hate how much he complains to the refs.

  • @SoundsOfMotoring
    @SoundsOfMotoring 3 месяца назад +1

    Whatever Luka has done, whether you like it or not, has got the Mavs to the finals. He should not and will not change how he plays. He plays with an edge and passion and if it does not sit well will some then so be it. What he needs to improve is his free throw shooting and work on his defense.
    What Mavs need to do is to develop pure shooters and Mavs will be back.
    Lets go Mavs !!!

  • @5Laohu
    @5Laohu 3 месяца назад

    It is kinda funny - Ant should be all NBA over Luka, Ant is the next MJ - then he loses. Dallas is overachieving and an underdog for the entire playoffs, make it to the Finals suddenly Kyrie has been redeemed…now down 0-3 to a team with overwhelming odds to win and it’s a failure…
    Have Boston and Dallas SWITCH Tatum and Luka only - which team would be better or worse off?

  • @KobeDurant-s3i
    @KobeDurant-s3i 3 месяца назад

    Isn't LUKA 22 years old what is PERK talking about hurt his star stock this his first finals what happend when the CELTICS couldn't win the finals with Tatum and Brown This Luka first finals

  • @DD-sr9xm
    @DD-sr9xm 3 месяца назад

    It’s interesting to compare NBA media to NHL media. NBA Mavs about to get swept, Luka had a bad game, now Luka sucks and these clowns over react, and nothing about how good the Celtics D is. NHL Oilers about to get swept, McDavid (Draisaitl, RNH, Hyman) haven’t scored a goal in 3 games, media talks about how good Florida D is.