Here's Why I'm Buying A Volkswagen Golf R
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- Опубликовано: 14 апр 2022
- Kyle takes you for a ride in a 2022 VW Golf R 6mt to explain why he's buying the identical car!
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The amount of people commenting and criticizing Kyle’s choice is absurd. He’s a person like anyone else and is clearly not going away from EVs, as evidenced by his Taycan and Rivian orders / interest. He’s a car enthusiast first, EV enthusiast second. He just appreciates good cars, regardless of the power train.
That’s BS, he’s had a BEV agenda for years and suddenly going for an ICE car again. Must be tired of waiting for chargers and now having issues with Model 3. Ya’ll been fleeced by this guy.
How does he afford all of these cars given that viewership is not huge.
@@GA-wq8xq Automotive channels are significantly more profitable on a per view basis than other content like Mr. Beast style general audience content
It's irresponsible to buy non-electric cars, when there is a climate emergency. Latest IPCC report basically says the human race will be extinct by the turn of the century unless there is major shift away from fossil fuels (CO2) and animal agriculture (methane) immediately. If we don't stop these two things completely by 2030, it's the end.
@@michaelmcgavin7106 calm down Michael. The IPCC report conclusion was sensational and don’t be like the congresswoman AOC who says we will be dead by 2030 if we don’t limit to 1.5C rather than 2C. This hyperbolic use of climate crisis, climate catastrophe is not serving anything other than letting progressives rant and rave.
This proves he is a true car guy more then a techy. That’s why he is trustworthy when he reviews EV cars.
Just got my 2024 Pure White DSG - traded in my 2015 Lapis Blue 66,000+ miles - loving every mile of the new one - VW did it again - Loving every mile - Farhvegnugen !!
I just bought my VW Golf 8 R Performance DSG and it is my favourite car in years. It's a real drivers car. I think it's just as fun as my previous Audi S4/RS4 avant. Only less space for your luggage.The infotainment (bluetooth) is soso.The leather sportseats are a real eyecatcher. I drove last week at the Autobahn and it's a real left lane killer. From 0-60 in 4,3 sec. And in Comfort mode it's a nice daily driver.
I didn't know this is a purely electric car channel. I subbed as I like watching Kyle "shred" up a mountain road
Have been watching a lot of your EV vids and did not know you were an R enthusiast. I also own a Mk8 R, and previous owner of a 7.5R . This is awesome.
If The Model 3 was a hatchback like that, and had a sunroof, I’d be the perfect electric car…for me!
Yes I agree, Murry. Even with the solid glass roof the Model 3 would be great with a hatch, especially if the roof had a sliding fabric panel also
Closest to that is Model Y performance, plus you may get the 4680s and structural battery pack out of gig Texas.
@@letsgobrandon5800Nope! The Y is a fast back SUV, not a hot hatch. Besides, I don’t wanna ride up in the air atop an suv. I wanna be down low like a (safe driving) shark in traffic!
@@letsgobrandon5800 yes, but many people prefer the sleeker and sportier look of the Model 3, it's too bad it has no hatch
@@jamespaul2587 the S has a hatch…….Plaid S is bad to the bone.
Some of you have never owned or driven a hot hatch and it shows.
I Had a Mk7.5 GTI prior to my Tesla and I'd still say overall my #1 favorite daily I've owned was my GTI with the Tesla a close second.
The GTI (or Golf R) I'd buy again without hesitation, the Tesla? Not likely.
Congrats on the new ride!!! Awesome awesome car!!!
I love my Jetta GLI Manual. Obviously more closely related to the Golf GTi than the R but still a fun car to drive and very practical too.
I am contemplating a return to VW. I am a enthusiast since I first drive a MK2 GTI...
I also have had VWs since a mk 2 Gti and (used) Mk 1 Scirocco
Awesome choice Kyle you work hard get the spec you like
those roads were just insane. Wild
Absolutely love mine! Especially how fast 💨 it is and how much fun it is to drive
I honestly do not know why VW won't sell the ID.3 in the US -- it's BS that they keep saying "well people don't want hatchbacks"
When are you getting your R?
The one in the video is that your actual car? or did you order one and it's coming? 🤔
You work hard and deserve to buy what you want bro…..enjoy
Which car is more fun? TM3 LR vs Golf R?
GLAD you"re getting one of these.... I am SO GONNA do it too... I have always wanted a GOLF R... but they never had a power roof, now they do and NO WIFE to say that she hates them... This is my BREAK FREE AUTO-MOBILE.... one or two questions.... you said that you had the other video of the Golf R you did before and IS there an UPDATE of you getting YOURS yet?
I have owned several VW’s. I miss my Corrado G60 followed closely by my 08 R32 the most. I enjoy your videos, you’re partially to “blame” for the Tesla in my garage and cannot wait to see you dig deep into the Golf R!
My g60 was my second favorite. Ihave had them all... but my actual favorite was my 13' beetle R. Something about that car. Felt like a poor man's Porsche.
This new R imho has amazing looks and finally the engine tuning, exhaust and awd system it always deserved. It's a VERY quick car on backroads. I'll cross shop this and the Corolla GR. I don't care for heavy sports/sporty cars.
The golf r is heavy . But im in the same spot as you but i think i will have to wait for 2023 when the other two corolla gr models come out. But i doubt i will get hands on a GR knowing that every dealership will get only one if at all. And if the mark up is too high i will probably go with the golf r
I lived in Loveland and Estes Park CO for many years (worked in Fort Collins at HP), and was there last year with my mk7 Golf TDI. Driving in Big Thompson canyon was a ton of fun. I can't imagine what it'd be like in a GTI or an R, but I bet it's a bag of giggles!
I had a TDi and I’ll bet you were getting 50 mpg too.
I wish we got the Manual trans in the Golf R in Britain
could you do a video comparing this to a toyota coroll GR (it will compete against this with toyotas AWD system)
you nailed it - just said brings out your inner 15 year old. I just got mine a few days ago and my smile has been permanently fixed to my face. I dont know of any other car for this money that delivers on everything. Great daily. Great racer. Surprisingly with hatch you have some decent room to load stuff in. Checked every box for me. Ignore all the complaints of the info system. I assume this is people who have little to no experience with todays tech. Lots of ways to use shortcuts and the steering wheel controls 90% of what you need to do while driving (radio, volume etc..). Best auto purchase I have made in last 30 years. I am turning 50 in 5 weeks and this makes me feel like im really turnjing 20 ;-). You made a great decision you will not regret. And FYI - I paid MSRP from local dealer without any haggling.
I just turned 1000 miles on my Lapiz Blue DSG MK8. Have taken it to the Dragon (129) and the Snake (421) and for the money this car is hard to beat.
Congrats!!
Ever get the Golf R? Haven't seen any other videos.
We replaced an off-lease Honda CRV with a BMW i4 e40 msport, that’s been great for the first 26,000 miles to date. Our other car is an Audi S4, which makes a great combo. The i4 is driven a lot more than the S4, but there are times when the S4 is the better choice. We live in a rural area with cold snowy winters. While the i4 manages 3.9 to 4.1 miles/kWh on my 150 mile round-trip once weekly commute in summer, efficiency drops by 20-30% in cold weather and RWD on “all-season” tires can get dicey. The S4 rides on 19” PS4s in summer and 18” Hakkas in winter, so it gets driven whenever we’re facing harsh weather or a long trip into areas with sparse charging. We bought the i4 rather than leasing it, so I have kept the max SOC at 80%. Without the S4, we’d be pushed to 90-100% charging more often than I want. Given the steep depreciation on EVs, my goal is to squeeze at least 150,000 miles out of the i4. If by then there is an affordable AWD EV lift back/wagon/small SUV with ~400 mile range then I’d be okay with EV only. Until then, I’m keeping the S4 unless I trade it for a Golf R or an RS3.
You do so many ev reviews and bought a petrol car???
And why not? I think he is free to buy whatever he feels. Should someone that review iPhones never buy an android as well ?
@@JoseLopes-uj4pr I never said he can't. Just surprised at it
He bought a an ice vehicle for situations where an ev is tough to operate.
Yeah, he buys a real car at the end.
Would you rather daily the Rivian or your Model 3? Would you miss the 3's driving dynamics?
I can’t say much about the Rivian, since I’ve never driven one. But I have driven and 3 and seriously wasn’t impressed with the driving dynamics. Honda accords have a far better driving dynamic than any Tesla I’ve driven
So right about the RS3 Sportback. I would be signing my life away if it was available in NA
so jealous that you guys get the manual 😭
I can't wait for the Corolla GR vs Golf R video. Maybe throw in WRX/STI if they make it a hatch again.
isnt the subajunk going electric?
I need your hook up at VW. The only ones I’ve found are 10k over msrp
Can they find one for me too please?
My blue, manual R is on the way, baby! Whoohoo Thanks Grand Junction Volkswagen!
DSG and paddles sounds great to me.
This car is great, but I hate how high the manual revs on the highway at 120kph plus.
Currently have an IPace and miss my 2013 manual Golf R a bit
Oh and Magna built my IPace!
What about the upcoming GR Corolla?
My local dealer (where I have bought a LOT of cars) tells me they can't even order the DSG Golf R right now. I was offered a 700 mile black press car as a CPO (for $50K!!) but I DON"T want the 6 spd manual. They still have it two weeks later because not many people actually want the 6 speed. As a former owner of a 2008 R32, I want a Blue DSG...Blue is the original R color. The DSG is indeed faster, has more torque, and is much nicer in stop and go traffic. Seems all that's really out there right now are manual transmission cars...and those are generally available if you search.
US dealers don’t get to order any Rs, so not sure why some people say they ordered anything. Dealers take deposits, and what they are allocated they get. They have no idea what trans or color it will be.
As a former MK7 R owner (who absolutely HATED the manual transmission and slipping clutch with nothing more than an intake and JB4 piggyback) and now a current Model 3 performance owner, I'm once again looking at the MK8 R for my next car once the tesla lease ends in about a year.
Also, I believe there's a company in Germany who have cracked the ECU and stock, these things are making like 320+ HP to the wheels so VW are massively under-rating it.
I'll say though, if they are still going for 10K over MSRP next year, I'll pass and look at the S4, S5 sportback or possibly RS3.
@@breakingcycles741 "A bit pricier" is an understatment. They're $70k right now. $70K puts an S5 sportback prestige in my driveway and the practicality of that vs the S3 wins every time for me (again... dad of 2 kids so priority balance...)
For $20~25K less, I'd take the R and put a few bucks into the roof rack carrier for trips if needed and get that thing paid off much, much quicker.
Haha SAME
@@frumpd63 I ended up passing on the R. There was one being sold not too far from me with low miles but still a grand over MSRP. At this point in my life, there just wasn't enough room in the car. The hatch is nice but it's still just a bit too small of a car for a dad of 2 kids who also plays music on the weekends and needs to haul music equipment.
I ended up getting a 2022 BMW X3M Competition. It's hilarious and over the top but it looks SOOOO good and has more rear seat leg room and a bit more cargo space in the back.
Prefer the DSG, faster shifts, better mpg, faster acceleration. Is the manual shift a natural theft deterrent?
Have you seen him drive stick? It’s a driving deterrent.
Would be nice if everyone who wanted one could buy one
I had a 2012 Golf R, 2018 Audi RS3, and 2021 ID4 AWD, and I the 2012 Golf R is still my favorite car all things considered. RS3 loses points for being a sedan even though it was fun to drive (and i bought it used and didn't have any excitement of waiting for it to show up at the dealer). ID4 is pretty great too and I love that its electric but it feels more like a logical choice than something I love but can't explain.
What we really need is a Golf RS 2.5T. Or to sell the RS3 hatch in the US.
How is the practicality of trunk space of the RS compared to the golf? I've owned a MK7 R and currently have a Tesla Model 3 performance and it's huge trunk is spoiling me. I can downsize but not a LOT. The S4 seems like a happy middle ground but would be another $10 grand more than an MK8 R and from what I've gathered, not as quick or fun but no capacitive touch button nonsense either.
@@FastRedPonyCar RS3 had a much smaller/much more annoying to use trunk than my Mk6 golf R did. I don't think an RS4 is much better - the sedan trunk design just means that even if there's a lot of "floor space" the lack of height and small opening limits usability.
I'd stick to a golf R, or splurge for an A5/S5/RS5 depending on budget because those have the fastback style trunk where the whole lid opens up on the new models. Though technically the new A3/S3/RS3 will too, so... take your pick. I just wouldn't ever go back to an RS3-sized sedan even if the car was fun as hell to dr ive.
Really wish I coulda got a Golf RS 2.5T or something. Or if they sold the RS3 Avant in the US.
@@Cowclops Yeah I had to get my Tesla bumper replaced last year and the first rental my insurance company put me in was an A5 sportback and with the rear seats down, the amount of room was incredible and the sportback/hatch opening meant that the actual opening available to insert stuff into the car was also really really wide.
My 2012 mustang GT I used to have had a great sized trunk for a car it's size but the physical opening of the trunk was very small so even though large objects could fit inside the trunk space, I would have to lower the back seats, push the passenger seat forward and then climb in and shove large boxes into the trunk from inside the main part of the car as they just wouldn't fit into the trunk opening.
The A5 sportback reminded me of a Vette with a deeper trunk floor and additional space if the seats were folded down.
My old Golf though held a SHOCKING amount of stuff, even with the back seats up. There was definitely some tetris going on with a couple trips but it was also when my wife was in an Audi A4 so the Golf could hold more for trips and now she's in an XC60 Volvo so that's not really a problem anymore.
Interestingly enough, my Model 3 can hold slightly more than the XC60 if you use the storage space under the trunk where a gas tank would normally be.
Because it's a great car... That's the answer
I couldn't find a dealer anywhere in Florida willing to order one for me and I spoke with or messaged over 20 of them and finding one in the wild is rarer than spotting a Unicorn! I wound up ordering the S3 because my local Audi dealership was more than willing to place a custom order, very disappointed in VW dealerships not offering any orders on the Golf R's is ridiculous...I even offered a $3000 cash deposit with no luck!
Similar experience here. I guess it ties into VW 's recent announcement they will begin to focus on their more luxury brands due to profit margins. At this rate, VW will be dead in a few years. The people's car is coming to an end and the dealer sentiment reflects this.
It’s not that great if a car. Spring for a RS3 which is far superior, quicker and just better.
@@letsgobrandon5800 Also in a completely different pricing category...the RS3 (which isn't even available in the United States this year) is about $25,000 more than the Golf!
@@AerialAdvantageImages but why overpay for an “R” in this environment? Once production and supply chain issues resolve and they will, you’ll owe more on the VW than what it’s worth. Have never found VW to be an appreciating asset,
How can you afford these cars?
This will still be worth MSRP after he drives it for two years.
Beautiful R. 😍 The blue with a DSG for me please. Enjoy Kyle 😉
Love GTI’s - but not a fan of the new lights and front end - inside is also a bummer over the last gen
what a lot of people dont notice are the orange lights built into the eyelid, they glow orange at night. Best looking golf yet. Interior is also better that they added knobs for volume and scrolling. Love it
Dual clutch has 295 ft lbs of torque, but the same 315 bhp.
It's too bad the Golf R manual doesn't come with auto rev matching.
I have a deposit down for the new GR Corolla which does have it.
I miss my GTI, going to keep the Tesla for a bit and get a golf r when the time is right.
Is the Golf R built in Germany or Mexico?
Wolfsburg, Germany
15:25 are you sure you “activated launch control?” 🤣
I was just looking at that. It's a 6MT car, which is much more challenging to launch. My Mk8 DSG launches itself almost comically, with absolutely no stutter or drama. It's a sling shot.
I've always loved the VW 'go kart' frame cars, Audi TT Roadster was my favorite (2001 was mine) but honestly, I can't buy a gas car anymore. Wish they'd come out with some BEV models.
That launch.. ouch 😣
i haz an mk7.5. I'm in Evergreen...love's me R.
It’s an awesome car, with lots of power and tech; also the best looking hatchback I think. At least some manufacturers are still giving us nice hatchbacks and in manual transmissions. I just hate suvs and huge vehicles (well I like the cybertruck but that’s it). Reason why is hatchbacks have decent room but are still very versatile in town and the city. I like wagons as well for that reason too. Please manufacturers, give us more hatchbacks and wagons in North America!
@@laloajuria4678 both me and him will buy. So yes.
Go for Rivian
Great choice, excellent car and is better every iteration. Brilliant long trip car too, especially with DCC fitted. DSG is handy for that too as works well with the adaptive cruise and you get an extra gear.
Been my view all the way through with EVs and what they provide for the money. Why buy a bland AWD EV that differ in price more than the cost of gas you will ever use in this, when this achieves more for less, without range variablity compromises and provides a better driving experience.
I drove the EV6 recently and what a underwhelming car that was, for $27k more than a Golf R in my country, so RS3 money! Apart from more rear seat room nothing else was better comparitivly. The Golf is faster too if we are making a performance arguement as well. So this or the Tiguen R and T-Roc R covers pretty much every base.
Mk1 GLI, MK1 G60, MK1 Cabi, MK4 Wolfsburg, MK4 GOLF TDI, MK5, Rabbit, MK5 GTI, MK6 GLI, now... a veloster. Ruined my credit and had to get something fun and manual. VwS are so great.
You must have a lot of money if you can buy this and a Rivian.
I've heard great things about the golf r...but man does that gr corolla look insane 😳
you're saying the golf never had the magic....... the first GTI had it
Hey you dont Play gran turismo 7!😉
I find it interesting how many DSG people will consider a manual. However, most manual people will refuse to even consider the DSG.
well heres the problem, if you want to tune a manual, you will need a new clutch. Those things run you north of 4-5k USD with labor. lol.. dsg just needs a dsg tune
I own a DSGZ Mk8 R and I absolutely love the thing. I’ve already done a lot to it but eagerly awaiting Ecu capabilities.
I will say that yes, the DSG gets far better mileage. I averaged 36 on my 700 mile trip home when I bought it.
Also I’m not so sure you did launch control properly. I couldn’t see the display but it should tell you and you didn’t seem to wait for boost to build all the way. Either way the DSG seems to love it. No weirdness at all, it’s just like a slingshot.
Gonna need a bigger garage..
I was loving it until the 45K +++ price tag
And audi refuses to give them the 5 Cylinder 😢 😭
Have you looked at car prices recently?
I owned the Subaru STI hatchback fun car. Wanted the golf R but friends told me it was ugly haha so I got a Tesla instead.
Kind of silly you listened to your friends about how a car looks. I'm sure the internets could have shown you tons of pics and reviews.
Golf R is beautiful, Tesla? not so much
That's cool idea using the Golf R as a camera car. Makes sense! Wish you would reconsider keeping the Tesla Model 3 for more long term content.
People keep saying they've "ordered" a Golf R in the US. You cannot order a Golf R in the US. Not really sure I understand why people keep saying this.
I liked the review but I have to disagree about the comment of "being able to make more power safely." With each generation of Golf they tend to make internal improvements which will slightly improve what the engine can handle. +60hp isn't the danger zone for the EA888.
Correct. This car will be able to handle north of 500. It’s of no issue.
@@AntFragale ehh the stock clutch is kind of a POS, it's definitely the limiting factor
@@cjs8811 oh for sure. I was more talking about the motor itself. Mine is a DSG.
Great choice! I have had mine since Feb and absolutely love it. I took it down to Wookies in the Woods this year of course, where I won favorite MK8 Golf R :D
Here's a quick video with an aftermarket intake (APR). ruclips.net/video/P3XYsWJHDkI/видео.html
How do you afford all of these vehicles, a house in FoCo, and several employees? You're livin' the dream!
family money and a lot of low interest debt
You realize the BANK owns everything
You watch our videos - we make money.
It’s called hard-work.
Are you new to the concept of making money from RUclips?
The blue is beautiful to many white cars on the road
Wow, that launch sounded horrible, like, ouch.
wouldn't it be interesting to see a EV version of this car?
You mean the Golf EV of 2019?
I took an R with DST for a test drive in '20 (I don't know what 'mark' that is?) as a possible upgrade for my Subaru WRX (CVT, and yes I know, CVT, but I think it's time to get rid of the old manual clutch/shift thing).
Obviously, the R is a much, much better car than the WRX. It sounds great, it's got a beautiful interior & exterior. I find the dash a bit high, I'm 5'9" & Subaru spoils you with great visibility. The R is faster. Plus, I'd much rather a hatch than the WRX sedan, pretty well everything was better, except for 3 things:
1. Handling. The 2016 WRX handles so much better than the Golf R, I can't begin to describe it. The R (at least the one I test drove, with stock tires) leaned so much in corners. Everything leans in corners compared to the WRX, so I understand VW not wanting to make the R ride so harsh.
2. Transmission. I can't believe I'd complain about an auto transmission after driving a "CVT-RX" for 6yrs. When in sport mode in the R (not manual), I stepped on the gas & the delay before it accelerated was inexcusably slow. In Sport Sharp mode, my WRX's CVT engages much faster. In manual shift mode, there's no question the R is the faster car. However, the DST is a wet blanket.
3. AWD. I haven't driven a car on any surface that has a better AWD system than Subaru. I'm in Canada so there's lots of snow. The torque distribution in a WRX is much better. Unless the AWD system has changed in the R recently, I don't see why a front-wheel favoring AWD system would go into such an otherwise nimble, fast car as the R.
I'm bored with my 268hp. I want more. With the price of the R, I didn't find 290hp to be enough power. When I saw the Tesla model 3 performance came out, I thought this sub-300hp genre would die of boredom. It's not to say you can't have a blast in the 250-300hp range, but for the money, I'd hoped to find something with about 350hp. I'll never fancy myself a better driver than Kyle, he certainly has skills. That said, when I get aggressive, I want more than what either Subaru or VW can offer. Looks like I'll go broke buying & fueling an Audi R3 or something. I'm on the fence about the Model 3 Performance & an Audi R3 (or used R4).
❤️👏👍
Can't believe you are throwing money at an ICE car.
Unfortunately the infrastructure is not the best for evs rn. An ice backup is necessary. He's explained this.
Then clearly you don’t know Kyle
Mechanical 4WD, that is a lot of complexity that will add to maintenance. This model should have been made as a PHEV with electric rear axle. And it would then also be able to do city driving as EV.
Are you ok with this car having direct injection only and carbon build up?
I like these. Just can’t justify the price for this size of vehicle. I believe the only reason these are popular is because it has no competition. No manufactures are making hot hatches. Very niche.
Nope
Not electric! Dunnaewanet....
DSG All day
man who lies all the time...ev ev ev then?!
I will be honest, not very impressed with it. I haven't driven it, but it doesn't look like a car that I would buy.
Don’t worry about the environment Kyle, we’ll be fine while the inner 15 year old in you pollutes the air we breathe.
Nice mask pic
Dude chill out. The infrastructure for evs is garbage rn. He needs a backup gas version.
You've gone down in my estimation. From an EV, a M3P, to an old ICE is like paying to go back a decade.
45k is stupid in any case for a golf. Its a golf. A slow golf in comparison to your M3P.
Plenty of time to own an EV. Performance ICE vehicles are a dying breed. Love the choice Kyle!
Buys car for 45k, Records all the videos on an iPhone
You still watch them, don’t you?
@@brandenflasch not really
Kyle, I've watched your videos for awhile now and I know how hard you work. I have to say though that it's a bit of a turnoff to see the preferential treatment you and yours get. Your Dad got his Ioniq 5 at sticker and when people who watched that video went to that same dealer to get the same deal, they were told that for them, there was going to be a markup. Now you tell us that Volkswagen took the time to find you a very hard to find car at sticker. These are the benefits you are getting for being a RUclips personality. I don't think you should turn down these offers. I would, however, suggest that maybe keep your good fortune to yourself because the rest of us aren't so lucky.
Gosh you people are so sensitive lol
No he shouldn't keep it to himself at all.
Because Kyle is making bank off BEV RUclips but now realizes BEV is not the answer. That’s why he’s buying an R. He’s sick of sitting at charging stations and wants a manual. He’s sick of EVs. What we really need is the Golf Diesel GTD.
I would’ve gotten DSG since trying to resell a stick in the future will be near impossible.
Are you a troll? You havent been paying attention lol. He is not sick of evs. Just aware of the times we are in, infrastructure is not up to par yet.
Dude, you’re projecting. None of that is true.
@@PeteLenz I wouldn't be surprised if its a troll account. Account was made 5 months ago, and the name 🤔.
@@PeteLenz pretty obvious what is true. For three years he’s been espousing benefits of BEV and pushing them heavily and then buys an ICE. You’re deluded. It’s all about views and subscribers. Calling BS when I see it. He says one thing and does another. I’m not the only one who’s seen this.
It’s hard to film EV content with an EV
This is a crime, you cant have golf r without dsg wtf
Lot of arguments for buying a ice car. All bad👎
all car purchases include an emotional angle, otherwise everyone would drive the same econobox.
Such a shame that you’ve reverted to fossil fuel.
Ah well.
Bye.