3 WORST And 8 BEST Things About The 2023 VW Golf R
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
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0:00 - Intro
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BAD:
0:23 - The tech
The issue is mostly around the climate controls
You have these touch-sensitive sliders rather than buttons or dials
And btw they don’t light up at night…wtf
temp sliders are so you don’t need to go into clima, but they’re harder to use
tap slider w/ 2 fingers - turns on heated seats
has cooled seats, need to go into clima
Then there’s the finger sensing proximity thing where the screen isn’t showing you everything UNTIL you’re about to put your fingers on something
why do I need to take my hands off the wheel to see all the information available?!
Ultimately It just feels like they’ve tried to stuff too much into a screen this size
2:45 - Quality
However, it used to be that VW has the interiors that Mazda does today
They were super solid and well built, the materials were better than things you were finding in Hondas
And it just felt like that half step between economy and premium
Today the interior feels much more like Hyundai and Honda level than BMW or Audi
You’ve got more hard plastics, less aluminum, and here the rear seats get worse materials and the passenger seat doesn’t even get power controls
3:46 - The Sliders
We touched on this with the first point, but VW has chosen to go with this new slider control thing and they must be really excited about it because it’s everywhere
The climate and temp controls
The volume on the center console
Btw neither of those light up at night which is a pain
The volume on the steering wheel
And the sunroof controls
This isn’t the end of the world, and actually it’s kind of a fun gimmick in ideal conditions, but try using it with gloves or at night, or in a rush and i feel like you’d be wanting a more conventional dial or button
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GOOD:
4:43 - The drive
6:02 - The engine
Under the hood is the 4th generation of the Ea888 engine we’ve come to know and love
Here it’s dialed up to 315 hp and 310 lbft
Exact same specs as the type r
And if you match that to the DSG then you’ll get to 60 in the low 4 second range
A full second quicker than the little sibling GTI
6:41 - Transmissions
Which then leads us to transmissions and you get a choice of 2 very good transmissions
The one we have here in this car is the 6 speed manual trans
And simply put, it’s great
Your clutch engagement is defined
Your pedal box is spaced well for heel and toe
Your shifter has nice satisfying throws AND you still get the golf ball dimples
The other trans option is the DSG which is also very good - not quite as snappy and dramatic as the N cars’ DCT, but still a very good gearbox
The cool thing, though is tat you can only get a golf R in 2023 with a stick in the US of A - not even in Germany can you get a stick
8:11 - Looks
10:46 - Interior accents
I know we talked about the interior quality not being the same tier as VWs of old, but there are some fun interior accents that make the car feel special
First is the steering wheel - it looks cool, it’s stitched, got loads of buttons
R button
There’s ambient light with a bunch of different colors
The seats look cool and interesting
You’ve got a touch pad on the left of the cluster which makes me feel very iron man for some reason
You get a sunroof which is nice even though it’s not truly pano
Heated and cooled seats and heated steering wheel
And of course your golf ball shifter if you go for the manual car
12:24 - Rear seats
The rear seats aren’t huge, but this is a hatchback, not an SUV - and I will say you still have more room here than in a Kona N
The seats themselves are cool and interesting
You’ve got dedicated climate zone and climate vents
You’ve got heated rear seats, didnt get that in the Tiguan
You’ve got crazy pockets, charges, and cupholders
13:18 - The trunk
There’s not a whole lot to this point, but the trunk is a good size
It has a ski passthrough
And the seats fold 60/40
13:50 - Price/demand
The Golf R is just about 44k which makes it almost exactly the same price as the Type R and more than a Core GR Corolla
But you know who’s not paying anywhere near sticker for their car? Type R and GR buyers
The Golf R has been out for a while, it doesn’t have the ravenous hype and you can actually get it for the proper price
But if you want an AWD spicy hatch something else that might be worth checking out before it’s gone is the MINI Clubman JCW, that thing is a little riot
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14:45 - Outro 
Авто/Мото
Special thanks to our patrons! Would you take a VW GTI or Golf R?
For the mk8 I’d go Golf R if price isn’t an issue.
Will go for Golf R , I only care about the performance 😂🤣
Golf R.
Hard to buy the GTI when I know the R is available.
60 grand for a golf hatchback is ridiculous!
Says the infotainment isn't as bad as people say. Then goes into a rant about it. I've owned my r for 14k miles and never touched the sliders. The shortcuts literally solve everything. Live with it and it's fine. It's definitely the best hatch on the market 😊
Coming from a person who owns a mk8 golf r off you can just tap the slider vs swiping and as well as the heated and ventilated seats, it’s always on the screen so you can tap it vs going through the climate control options
I’ve owned a 22 DSG Golf R for a year now and love the car. I have some corrections for the reviewer. All capacitive buttons on steering wheel and infotainment touch screen work fine with gloves on. In addition to being able to swipe controls they can also be pressed or tapped. Many of the steering wheel buttons have two functions when pressed quickly or firmly such as cruise control speed will increment by 1 mph when quickly pressed but by 5 mph when firmly pressed. R button on steering wheel can be firmly pressed to go straight to Race mode but quickly tapped to rotate through all drive modes. Infotainment and climate controls have many settings to automatically enable seat heat or ventilation and steering wheel heater automatically based on temperature. Voice can also be used to change climate temperature and fan. I have no complaints about VW integrating all climate controls into the screen and appreciate all of the customization options that reviews seem to never mention but understand that there is a little learning curve.
The car reviewed here appears to be a 2022 as the 23 has a piano black center console surround around the gear shift. Thanks for the review.
I owned a Honda during that couple years when they decided people shouldn't have a volume dial. I hated it so much I wanted to drive the car into a tree. Thank goodness VW is listening & is supposedly bringing back more physical controls in the 2024 model.
@@Loopsrainforest Unfortunately they are not bringing back physical buttons. VW has confirmed that the capacitive touch buttons are staying. Only on the lowest and base trim, vehicles will get the physical buttons.
I recently purchased a 2023 Golf R 20th Anniversary in black and manual. I was caught by surprise because the person that ordered it did not qualify for the loan and the dealer ended up calling me. I hadn’t even heard of the 20th anniversary. All I can say is, what a car. In addition to the overall engine performance and AWD, the ride is quite nice, even in the sport mode. The napa leather interior is also very nice. One of the best reviews I have seen on the Golf R. Great job!
What’s your take on the Golf R after one year of ownership?
I will be receiving my 20th anniversary edition at the end of the month.
@@brunovillasboas7719 I got mine in February so I only have a couple of months under my belt but the quality, engine, and ride are much better than I expected. What color is yours? Mine is black.
Have one. love it. forget most of the useless tech. and drive it. that's what I do. quick, nimble, fun to throw around. practical (it's my daily & family car).
U can press instead of slide on ever slider and it will still work lol. Also for the climate u can just tap and hold the red and it will jump to Hi or vice versa for LO
You can quick send the heat or cold by holding down your finger on one side. Hold for 3 seconds on the red goes to high heat, blue goes to coolest setting. Worked for VW for a while it’s easy to use once you know what your doing read the OM really helps
Physics is easy once you learn it. But you should need a degree in systems operation just to drive a car. Things such as HVAC, radio, window switches, seat cool/heat all should be simple and intuitive to use and operate --- while driving. That's the mark of a well thought-out and and well-built design.
@@krane15I mean if you got common sense then it should be pretty obvious holding down would make it go up instead of just tapping it a bunch. Then again common sense isn’t a common virtue
Thuh Doug made some helpful comments that you did not know about when making some of your comments.
1. With the manual, it comes with 280 lbs of torque, and even with the DSG it comes with 295 lbs of torque. You're mentioning old data points from when it initially launched in the US.
2. Not just the U.S. market can get the manual R, but also in Canada.
3. Most dealerships have a markup on the Golf R's nationwide. There are some msrp dealers out there but they are few and far in between. Prices can range anywhere from msrp to 30k over msrp. A lot of phone calls need to be made to find the msrp dealerships, and most likely one will need to travel a bit to get to them.
You don’t have to slide the temperature control to raise and lower the temperature. All you have to do is touch the button up or down to get to the temperature.
Being old school, it amazes me that electronic controls are of such an issue. My 2019 GTI, with switches, and knobs is going to be my ride for a long time. Great video, thanks. RickGTI….. 🌴
I like your presentation and how you discuss the issues. Subscribed!
I have mixed feelings on the blue stripe. It sends the message that it is an electric or hybrid. I love the big cross-drilled brakes, the thick steering wheel, and that rear wing. I would like to see VW roll out the spektrum program for the R.
How would you compare the Mini Clubman JCW to the Golf R in terms of driver engagement (steeling feel, brakes, ride, engine response, fun etc.)?
I used to own a 2005 Cooper S and have a soft spot for the brand, think it gets overlooked a lot.
Man, that would be a great comparison but I have not seen one in the dozens and dozens of MK8R reviews and actually the Clubman JCW is never even compared to it. I honestly have no idea why. I think it compares to it in price, sure it's a little smaller but still. It's damn quick with the auto it has, and a hatch of course. I have never owned a Mini of any kind, but have owned several GTi's. The Mini Cooper S and other trims with the JCW option over the years, just seemed to be not on my mind due to the increased price difference. I wish one of the more accomplished car reviewers out there would compare the two. It could help many folks out there I bet. But, I am waiting to get into my 23' R 20th Anniversary in the coming weeks, and if I experienced the Mini in whatever trim, I think that could have been a legit contender in my decision making process of getting into an "obtainable" dream car of sorts, which the R is for me currently.
Besides the "gestures" VW truly wanted people to use the voice commands to do everything, as I noticed during a test drive of a golf R, I could get climit to go where I wanted it to as well as set my radio volume
For that to be the case, the VC needs to be flawless and instantaneous. It's neither.
Mk7.5 here with the manual thinking 🤔 of the gti but not sure the r is more expensive and the dealership by me is charging 10grand more then the sticker if that stops I may pull the trigger until then I wait it out 😊
The interior of the GTI with the plaid seats has more personality than the cold R interior. If there was a 4 Motion GTI, I would buy it. My 2003 GTI was my favorite car I have ever owned.
I own a 2005 Mk5 GTI, I really love the plaid and many features that the basic golf or even the golf R doesnt have. It is "just an old golf" in many peoples eyes, but it blends that old car feel with more modern vehicle features and styling. Easy maintenance and cheap parts make me really want to keep it until I can get a good deal on a 7.5R or 8R in the future.
The fabric seats are much nicer and less dull, but not available in the US I believe
a gti has to be FWD. This is the emotion that everybody loves about the gti
Redundant. The Golf R IS the GTI with 4-motion.
@2:00 As a driver of more than 40 years, I can certainly agree with the "reckless and dangerous" commend here. Those stupid "touch" buttons are the absolute worst for safety. I find myself removing my eyes from the road to make adjustments to settings, or select something more often than not. Having actual real buttons was much safer, because we could use them without looking.
Good, informative review. Like the channel name, too! 😊 SUBSCRIBED!
Agreed on all your points of praise and contention.
I can’t find one for anything less than $5k over MSRP.
thanks for the sub!
@@dwnshft your comment about the Mini was the first time I heard about this. It was a good point.
Also, your points about use of gloves (I’m in Ohio) and waving hand to get information to appear on the touchscreen were also first time I’ve heard someone mention it. Finally, don’t know if the 2023 hatch door storage is different but our 2016 holds a small umbrella perfectly.
the Stereo also isn't as good as the Fender one that came in the MK7's. I think at this point I'll keep my MK7 GTI that's DSG and just go stage 3 in it.
Increasing the temperature setting of the climate controls does NOT warm the cabin more quickly! Why doesn’t everyone know this already? Set it at a temp in which you are comfortable and don’t touch it again.
Shut up, nerd.
almost same layout as my 08 R32, similar materials and design other than lighting and capacity buttons.
the golf r was always designed with the dsg in mind. the manual is not up to par lol
Great review. Thanks for doing this. i live in Canada and I am bit torn between the GTI "Performance" package and the R. I'm thinking the GTI and get a beater car for the winter. Which one would you pick?
If I had the money I’d go R
Got that same "carbon fiber" accents in my MK V R32. Cool that they're continuing that. Don't know if the MK IVs have that too...
maybe in wherever you are you can get it at sticker, but when I was shopping in December last year, I was quoted 5k over at every dealer in my area except 1, and they had an extensive list of people in line for a R at MSRP.
I own and love a 2016 GTI, started eyeballing the new Golf R. Great car and all, but the elimination of the control knobs makes it a hard pass for me.
Can you get ventilated seats on the GTI with the plaid seats? Or only on the R?
The US is not the only place that gets the manual Golf R. You can order one in Canada.
Oh for real? Go Canada!
North American market to be exact.
Why would anyone want a manual
@@robd5739 I would ask the same question. All the superior efficiency of a manual are long gone. Leaving only nostalgia, I suppose.
@@robd5739 Why a manual? 🤔
It is the primary reason humans have two hands and two feet! 🤲🦶🦶. 😉
Why do you have to take your glove off to adjust the volume? Hopefully you’ve figured out by now you can click the volume and other other things in the car. Perhaps make some corrections with you video.
you can turn up the volume with e tap or press as well
I’d really like to buy one of these but it’s impossible to get one for MSRP. They’re all $10-$15k over MSRP everywhere I’ve looked.
Insanity. MSRP is the ideal for any dealer. Paying over that is highway robber and crazy for any consumer. You pay that for a one of a kind or a car that's a collector's item and is no longer being made.
Got one at MSRP a few weeks ago, DSG 2023 Lapiz Blue. They’re out there
Great video! VW's used to mean if you wanted a "BMW performance but you have a Hyundai sized wallet." The attention to detail is not there anymore...
Its OK, if you still living in the 90s.
@@krane15 Yeah the late 90’s early 00’s Jettas with the VR6 was an awesome car for the money and built like a vault. The MK 7.5 GTI/Golf R was VW’s last stand.
@@dfk09 While Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota former above entry models are becoming more premium. VW is stuck in retrograde. The materials, features, and ergonomics of the latest cars from the above brands are just on step below luxury. The position VW used to occupy.
Although the Koreans currently leading the industry with bang for the buck in materials. Compare the interior of the Telluride/Palisade to that of the Atlas or even the Nissan Passport or the Honda Pilot or the Toyota Highlander and you'll see what I mean.
Koreans are now even a step above that of the Japanese. The Golf R is about equal to that of its direct rivals from Honda and Toyota, however. Last I checked, Hyundai's hot hatch entry had left the building.
0:45 slide your finger slower and it should fix that issue.
The infotainment system is why I did not buy the car. It was ridiculous so I bought a MK 7.5 Fantastic car
Canada also has the manual transmission Golf r 202x but my wife wanted standard :-(. Order a Golf R 2022-03-16, and got and 2024 today, finally.
How much did u pay for it, cos I'm buying one tomorrow with 6 spd
Came up to 72k CDN taxe, preparation, delivery, insurances, all included, now reprogrammed at 450hp 4465T, DSG reprogramming not available for mine... yet
Opinion on climate control: You never change it, you just never do... i think for the most part, you set it to 20°C - at least for us Europeans- and you stick with the auto climate. Works for 97% of cases. Touch on Steering wheel just looks better, and works the same way, if not better, for me
21°C is the optimal temperature for most people, research shows. This is equivalent to 70°F for the North Americans. I have owned 6 VWs since 2007, and I agree that you put the climate control on Auto and set it for 70°F, and you never have to touch it all year long, summer and winter.
Everybody changes it. Auto climate sucks.
I’m with you man, I have this car and never have to touch the screen. My shits set, if I do need something I just use the buttons on the wheel
Looks good getting the outside.. Has a good engineer.. Buyer has to decide if the interior is a deal breaker.. The clunkynav...
so glad i got my hands on a MK7.5.....
3rd chance… where can you get one at MSRP in SE Wisconsin?
(“You can actually get it at MSRP, or close to.”) 14:10
I just purchased a 2023 Golf R 20th anniversary and the best I could do was 3k over sticker. This was in Palm Beach.
@@peptors6686 Congratulations I’m sure you’ll enjoy it! How much over MSRP did they list it for originally?
@@martinn4186 The person that originally ordered the car agreed to pay 10k over invoice .
MK7 Interior has a much "cozier" feel than the cold interior in the MK8's. Does feel and look like they have cheaped out on the MK8
Yeah mk8 feels very sterile
Totally agree with you there, I own a mk7 r and went to my local vw showroom to look at the mk 8 20th edition and my first thought sitting in it was that I prefer the mk7 interior.
The Mk7 is objectively better. The Mk8 does one exactly thing (the LSD/rear bias) better than the Mk7, but everything else is *designed* to be lower quality, both material and user experience. As expected from a company trying to cut costs.
@@ixianmachine 100% agreed bud! They really seem to have cheaped out on seat material, door panel etc. I've got a VW Scirocco from 2012 (basically a MK6 Golf interior but all blacked out) and it is infinetly a much better interior than the MK8, and the touch buttons everywhere... what a bloody awful choice!
Sitting in the 7 / 7.5 and now the 8 I think it is all personal opinion everyoen that has been in my 8 loves it and originally hated based on videos. Once in the actual car opinions changed very quickly.
I test drove a mk8 gti sliders were fine nothing dangerous in there I don't understand all the hate for the golf R
is that accurate that Wisconsin buyers aren't paying over MSRP on these? On the east coast most dealers are charging anywhere from 3K to 10K over for Golf R's the latter would be for the Anniversary ed. with manual
MSRP is achievable.
own the Golf R mk8, love everything about it, if i could change some things it would be the lack of a back light on the slider (big miss imo) used to it cause i know where it is now.. air vents are awkwardly placed if your face is sweating.. its hard to get them to hit you head on but that about it. And factory exhaust could be better or offer an option to get one. Other than that it does everything else amazingly and if you are a tuner... You will make easy power and make it come more alive. this car really hits above its weight class. BMW and Mercs beware.. DSG is light years ahead compared to the ZF DCT on the M line of cars.. no aggressive thump, its almost uncanny how well and quick it shifts.
The ZF isn’t a DCT though, if it were it would probably be better
@@alvincolon1 it’s a 8 Speed DCT last I checked, I could be wrong
@@nevercedes2070 yeah check again it’s an 8 speed ZF transmission, bmw got rid of their DCT transmissions back in the f8x gen of M series cars.
It isn’t DCT. The ZF transmission is better in all aspects. I own a mk7.5 and the DSG is awesome, but the 8 speed ZF is so good for a standard automatic.
@@futball24 I disagree 🤷🏽♂️ lol both great options either way tho
VW CEO said in Oct 2022, that buttons will return to the steering wheel for 23/24. Full array of buttons and better colour options, I would buy. Comes with a manual here in Canada too! Thankfully.
You and those in the US are the lucky ones to be able to get a manual, still. Interesting that VW announced they're going back to some buttons, at least they fixed one issue.
@@milk-it Its the only market where they sell enough to make it worth it. As for lucky, that's debatable. The manual may be more fun, but its less efficient, and slightly less powerful.
What manufactures say and what they do are more than often two different things. Besides, they might have a totally different idea about what they consider to be buttons than we do. Anyway, we'll have to wait and see if they're holding to their claims.
However, VW has eliminated manuals from 2024 on!
Disgusting
You can also get the manual in Canada.
You can get both manual and automatic in Canada.
What percent tint on the windows?
Canada has the 6 speed MT as well
is the DSG A DQ381 model ?
Went to the dealer today for a 2024, the salesperson attempted to convince me the Golf R is almost a unicorn and because of that it was sold 4k over MSRP.
I told the guy, anything else you need from me, any questions, else have a nice day!
White so clean color of choice
The sliders under the infotainment screen are not backlit. It was a really WTF moment for me😮
I still dont understand why they sell the manual only in the USA. I cant afford this car rn anyway, but I do own a mk5 GTI and I would love to get a 7.5R or 8R in the future. I live in Europe so this is kind of a bummer. The DSG is great, I have driven a few VW cars that have it, but I feel like the manual is just more fun.
It's available in Canada also.
Simple, its the only place they can still make a profit.
Because only in the USA do people actually want it still. That's why. Sales data exists and it isn't even worth their money to do testing for that market to make it an offer. Yes, DSG is what most people prefer. Most people have 1 car and don't want to live with a manual. That is trash. I own a DSG R here in the USA. Manuals are dying cause it's not convenient. It's why people buy SUVs/crossovers. Convenience is the king of car purchases today, which wasn't the case not even that long ago. I know yall like it, to have fun time to time, but it's atrocious as a daily driver. Only instance I use a manual vehicle is on my motorcycles, but the environment and use cases are far different. And guess what? Bikers hate traffic and shit still! Nothing changed. Except in a car, you're stuck in it.
AND, at VW. When there is a Golf R at a dealership that's un-sold it's been a manual every single time. DSG outsells here and wasn't even a competition in EU. I've yet to run into one unsold DSG around Chicagoland areas.
@@viator1987 It is a shame, as I would prefer to have a manual in a sporty car. I wouldn’t consider a Golf R as a regular folk car or a daily driver for your average grandma. But whatever, I won’t be buying one any time soon, they will ban all cars before I can afford it haha
The comments in this thread are interesting and somewhat reassuring. I've been in the market for a 2019 Golf GTI or R (7.5) as a daily, and have been actively avoiding the MK8's, specifically because of the horribly discouraging feedback regarding the poor user controls, questionable menu layout for even the most basic functions.
Can anyone here attest to having purchased a MK8 and having regretted it? Any positive user feedback would also be welcome.
Thanks!
Well I've never owned a golf but I have seen comments in other videos of mk8 owners and most say that you get used to the capacitive buttons and overall love the car. Either way VW is replacing all that with better intuitive infotainment.
I have one and it’s freaking fantastic. I’m not a touch screen lover at all, had me hesitant but it’s so easy to maneuver and I rarely touch the screen. Everything you need is on the wheel, such a bad ass car that’s fallen victim to people driving it for an hour and then acting like they know something.
Save the manuals 🤘🏾
Sadly, manuals have been killed from 2025 on.
I got a 2016 manual because i feared VW would go fully automatic.
I need my left foot on the clutch pedal!
My wife drives a new Tiguan and the interior is premium af
They’re nice, and HUGE!
No need to slide, you can tap or just tap & hold, but you it's annoying touch button
It's unfortunate that we are at 4th generation of EA888 and VW haven't fully debunked it,or haven't improved it reliability
msrp went out the window! 5k MO, 9k IA, 7.5k FL, 6k TX, 9k Chicago!
the comparison of honda interior being cheap is no longer applicable. Idk if youve driven their new gen cars. The interior is arguably the best rn, so high quality and clean, extremely tactile and satisfying, they look and feel way more upscaled, interior of a much much more expensive vehicle
i have driven their new stuff and it is nicer... maybe I should have used toyota as an example, but i think you get my point
The slider controls are mostly useless, but the climate control is otherwise very easy to navigate after a couple of days with the car. Besides, how often do you actually change the climate controls? There is even a setting to have the heated or ventilated seat turn on automatically based on ambient temperature. 95% of the time I get in the car, I do not have to touch the climate control at all and there are 4 proper seasons where I live. It is also not true that all volume controls are sliders, you can just press the button, you don't have to slide.
It is certainly not perfect, but after 1 year with the car, I find that the infotainment complaints from the press have been a little overblown.
Massachusetts drivers get hit with a $10,000.00 "Market Adjustment" fee. You don't get anything extra with that. Just the "privilege" to own one of these in the great state of Massachusetts...That and buttons makes me love my red, 2018 mk7.5 that much more. Might look into getting one of these in the used car market in a couple of years or maybe driving to another state that doesn't stick it's drivers with that ridiculous fee.
the civic video coming out in 30 minutes was marked up 7k here in Milwaukee...7k...for a normal civic hatch...
Yea, here in Chicago the lowest is $5K that I've found and it's always on a manual that's left-over periodically. DSG, never seen one that's on lot and unsold.
Reviewers that keep bashing the infotainment system in this car never drove a new Subaru and tried to use their infotainment system. There’s nothing wrong with the gti infotainment system you just have to know how to use it
You can slide the buttons or touch them. It isn’t that hard. I’d prefer no haptic buttons though.
Its isn't hat easy either, which all operations should be.
Great comment. I hate sliders. Knobs and buttons work just fine. They spoil a fantastic machine with silly invitation that’s very annoying to live with day to day.
Especially when driving. If you were 100% stationary they might be OK but going over bumps and rough road surfaces it’s a completely daft idea and whoever signed it off should be sacked. I’m hoping 2024 models will deal with some of the silliness.
@@howardgregory3888 totally agree, this type of interface impedes your interaction with the machine. This is a very common complaint in many vehicles.
Hold up, as a current mk7 Golf R owner I’ve done my homework in my efforts to possibly purchase a mk8 R, and it’s nearly impossible to buy one of these at MSRP. Pretty much every dealer requires you to be on a 1-2 year waiting list and prices are regularly $5-20k over MSRP. Same problem that the Civic Type R and GR Corolla are dealing with.
Got one at MSRP 2 weeks ago, they’re out there. Lapiz Blue 2023 DSG
Poor thing has to take his gloves of to use the slider what a tough life
You can get a standard trans in canada.
Dont forget canada, we got the stick also
What's ironic about this and traffic laws is that it's against the law to use a mobile phone while driving, but this system is far worse and takes your eyes off the road fpor far longer to be able to use it!
There’s really nothing you need to touch on the screen, you just use the buttons on the steering wheel or tell the car verbally what you want to do.
Between this and Mini , the Golf all day long
im disappointed in Volkswagen destroying consumer choice on their golf r by deleting the manual model by 2025 trying to force sales on a last call run for 2024 on their golf gti etc what can you do
The buttons on the wheel can be pushed with gloves on
YOU CAN GET A SICK SHIFT IN CANADA ALSO
What about elantra n its not all wheel drive but 10k less
Well what about it?
Press the volume button on the wheel. No worries with gloves
Why would you even need to have gloves on as the heated wheel works really quick, mk 8 drivers soon get used to doing all your settings before you take off and if you know what your doing 90 % or more can be done in just a few settings and you can customise your most frequently used settings like an iPad coming up on your main screen right off the bat,read the instructions people it’s simple
Good review. But you may want to note that the Golf R does NOT have an LSD in the front or the back. Delve into that a bit deeper and I'd recommend updating your video. Cheers!
I had the launch edition of the Golf R in 2019. The "Launch" was not exactly prime time ready. 1 week after I brought it home my right front tire exploded (which became a serious reoccurring event sadly). When I brought the car to the dealer, I learned that the tires were a German only available tire and that the tire they would be fitting was going to be an American available tire. More than just weird, the German tire actually had a different tread pattern than the American tire! After fighting for hours, VW agreed at replace all 4.
The launch edition had the magnetic ride suspension, however, the difference between the soft setting and the track or race setting was undetectable. Even the service manager at the dealer couldn't detect what setting we were riding in when i complained about it.
I sold the car after a few years mainly due to the number of tires that exploded and I never believed that the car had near 300hp as claimed.
noticed the car doesn’t have the amber side markers near the wheel well that are normal…they look like they are tinted black…is that a dealer option?
Nope, it is not a dealer option. Apparently the car being reviewed here is used and the previous owner did it. Badgeskins makes lens covers, skins, and I bought white ones to fit over my soon to be Golf R20's orange lens covers.
That's my dream car.
one day man, one day
I USE VOICE CONTROLLE FOR EVERY THINK CALL TEMPETURES AND ZONES AND HEATED SEATS AND VANTILATED SEATS INTERIOR LIGTHS AND MORE MAN IT S VOICE CONTROLLED CAR MAN 😃
A prop rod? My 2011 diesel golf doesn’t even have a prop rod
You can get the 6dpd in Canada as well
But i do understand that Canada is basically just a more northern version of the US. Its a large US state
Still FWD biased, cheap interior and the price has climbed way too high.
Had 4 Golf GTI’s/R’s and had enough, looks like I’m not missing much.
Enjoying my BMW 240i…
As for competitors, how about Audi S3, BMW M135i, Mercedes A35… just to name a few real competitors. Clubman is way smaller…
VW has to cut corners in order to pay for the diesel gate.
Driving on the highway when it's raining, an doing the temperature is dangerous.
VW Australia no longer offers the Mk8 Golf R with a manual gearbox, so I didn't upgrade. However, there are other reasons why I'm not upgrading. I find using touch screens and sliders while driving much less tactile and difficult to use during driving, especially on rougher roads. The presence of even more plastic is another issue, given the black trim in front of the sunroof on my Golf R disintegrated in three years since new, which is indicative of the low quality of plastics and materials used. I'm not going to rant on, but the quality and options leave me nothing to desire.
Only North America gets the manual. They simply don't sell enough any place else.
That’s Aussie heat beat the shit out of your German ride 😂
@@LateNightDateNight None of my German cars every overheated here in Australia. Aussie cars could never keep up with German cars on the Autobahn or on a race track. They're not fast enough, handle like shopping trollies, and look like whales compared to the beautifully engineered and sleek German vehicles. GTFO.
2024 models eliminates all manuals!
In terms of resale and long-term reliability from 1-10, where do you put it?
against type R, GR
I could answer this question for you, i had a 8R and downgraded to a 7 TCR, car was nice. Not gonna lie, but too high tech, and interior feels not great. Engine is okay, but needs a stage 1 for sure. I would rate it a 6 out of a 10. Many things that could be better. The quality is shit too. They did downgrade after the 7.5 in terms of quality. Type R, not my type of ride. But reliability, im 100% sure Honda does it better. They always did, i had a ek9 R and that thing never wanted to give up, no matter what you did.
Big - about hondas.. they rust quick. Japanese cars do..
EDIT: resale, Gti and R's drop a lot of money. My tcr was in 2019 55 (Germany) low milaged one now is about 34k. Car lost about 21k. I even got it for 32k, car has 60k km. Not sure how many miles that is, but its very low.. I went from 8r to tcr because tcr will be rare and stay steady, if not increase in value. Im not sure how it is outside Germany doh.
@@bravosava I appreciate your time and your opinion, it is very valuable, maybe 2024 GolfR will return to the usual german quality.
Or Even Mazda return with Mazda3 turbo like Mazdaspeed era.
There are no LSD’s on the golf R. Sorry
We can have the stick in Canada
1 worst it price USD90K OTR here. I stick with my MK5
but is it worth paying that much more for this than a gti
Yeah (imo)
Yeas for mk8, no for mk7/7.5
@@taoc907 I completely disagree on the 7/7.5. My mk7 R was leaps and bounds better than my mk7.5 GTI. More power, all wheel drive, better interior materials. The GTI was made in Mexico and the R was made in Germany. Overall fit and finish was much better on my R.
@@andinarcadiai So sorry to hear that but I forgot to mention that I’m in the UK. That said everyone has a preference tho so nothing really to disagree about. For me even the mk7.5 R and GTI are similarly priced in the used market here, I would still prefer the GTI for its 1. Better look both in and out and especially the front 2. I have no need for AWD for weather concern3. I know many people hate hearing this one but it’s indeed a lot more fun to drive. (Undeniably R is a more powerful car and there are people who really dig the AWD so don’t get me wrong, we can certainly have different definitions for “fun”) As for MK8, I think the R has added a lot more on the FUN factor and the overall aesthetic seems to finally beat the GTI this round, the old one just a bit too subtle and when I was a rookie I would even mistakenly think that’s a golf Rline coming towards me. Not anymore on the MK8, the red accents on the GTI is a lot less standout as usual while I absolutely love the new badge and the styling of the mk8 r
@@taoc907 I appreciate all of that. Cheers!
I understand you ... u are us car lover or you must be check toyota gr and come back golf r u will see big different
It’s not a headlight casing- it’s a headlight bezel. 😅
I am hoping they offer more color options for the European market...
Australia black white or. Blue. Typical boring colours. I had 2 silver golf R.
Both factory order. Then they stopped
The silver!,
Not just exterior but interior as well. The typical "sea of gray" interior is just so drab I get depressed just looking at it. Then again that's true for all German cars.
@@krane15 A country that brought out so much modern culture, how did they end up all so gray huh? Some Porsches and BMWs, they make vary radiant reddish interiors, but then so tasteless and tiring, I would still take the gray over them.
You dont see latest models in N.Y at all
Prefer Mini’s GP3😊
Just to let you know the USA is not the only country that gets the manual transmission in the Golf R, Canada also gets the manual.
Please do your homework before making car review videos, you've got to get your facts straight my friend.
best car i've owned
I totally get it 😎