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The West Coast Logging Legacy
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- Опубликовано: 17 апр 2012
- This Squamish Historical Society video documentary traces the evolution of logging on the West Coast from the early days using animal power, to the era of the "steam donkey" and railway logging, leading up to modern highly mechanized forestry operations, including heli and underwater logging.
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After the first Gulf War I was sent to the inactive ready reserves. Being a brand new Father and living in Montana, I had to do something. I got into logging. Started as a choker-setter, then worked my way through every job on the site. Running a 70 foot West Coast Yarder Tower rig was the ultimate in little boy toy fun!
I was in my early 40s at the time and running up and down the hill with 19-21 year olds sure made this old man tough in a hurry.
I miss it greatly.
Thanks for a nice history of logging!
Thank You For Your Service Sir.
There's a bunch of SULLIVANS IN S.E. ALASKA. RUSS AND FAMILIES WERE AT HOONAH, NOW HEAR THEY ARE NEAR ANCHORAGE. ALASKA FOREST ASSN. 111 STEADMAN STREET. KETCHIKAN. SAY HI TO STRECH CHATHAM, and all the gang.
There was a 5th or 6th son of royal Swedish lineage who saw he was never going to be king so in 1860 he came to Washington and built a cabin next to a spring on a high hill.he was a logging company owner during first generation logging operations in the area of Issaquah fall city Snoqualmie. Before he and his wife passed they showed up with a convoy of cars to see the old cabin one last time .The man and his wife were very old and very nice,very thankful to see The old cabin still standing.
I was raised in a small drinking community with a logging problem Half Moon Montana
I’ve done a lot of physical work but can’t really comprehend how hard modern logging must be. After watching this I’m well aware of just how easy my life has been. A wonderful documentary, thank you.
Really isn't all that hard if one just sticks with it and learns from the experienced men. THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPECT.
After over 6 yrs of college with many educated dummies like WE ALL CAN BE, the dummies have put us out of jobs and retirements as well.
DON'T WORRY, WE KNOW GOD FROM IT ALL, TEACHING,Welding, ranching and whatever, fishing and road building.
Poverty has brought in a lot of drugs. Thanks ❤ for the respect.
modern logging is sitting in a comfy climate controlled cab listening to slayer while practicing wholesale slaughter on the forests to make a bunch of shareholders rich... easy peasy....
My dad and his brother started logging in the misery-whip days in southern Oregon. Maybe there were newer methods in the '30s, but they wouldn't have been able to afford anything better. I grew up listening to my grandfather and dad talking logging and it was always a special treat to go out to the woods with one of them. I can still hear the growling, clanking Cat and smell the machine grease, damp dirt and fresh wood. Those men had a shocking amount of brute strength and stamina. I don't know how they did it. We all knew it was a dangerous job. I remember the night he came home, sometime in the 1950s, and said a man was killed in the woods that day. He was obviously shaken, something my brothers and I had never seen him be. It was a somber dinner at our house. Logging took a physical toll on my father and I suppose on most, but thank goodness he moved on to another successful career in 1961. I thoroughly enjoyed this fantastic documentary, thanks to all who worked on it.
I can very much relate to that as my grand father, great grand father etc. were also loggers and sawyers !
Something tells me you are either in the writing business or you should be in the writing business.
This is certainly extrodanary footage of the early days of logging on the West coast. I never realized so much live footage from that early era existed. I've had a close interest and relationship in forestry all my life and have many old time logging books but never saw this type of live film footage before. This was a real treat. Thanks.
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This just came up on my feed & since my Dad was in the early logging industry, I had to watch. As a young girl I was allowed to go with my father to certain locations but stayed in the truck to watch. He did many aspects of logging from felling to drive to the mills. I remember the spikes on the boots, rope around a tree to hall yourself up & certain words in this video bring back memories of this time period. Many good childhood memories .
Thank you for showing this piece of history 👵🏻👩🌾❣️
at 3:08, the fellow on the far right is Matthias Hammer, my great grandfather, a Norwegian colonist in Bella Coola.
Thank you so very kindly for sharing the location in this video of your Great grandfather, Matthias Hammer. God bless you, your beloved, and his legacy!
I have been looking for something like this for a long time. Thank you! I'm writing my birth grandmother's story - she was born in Salmon River where her father worked as a logger. This film has given be such wonderful detail and also has filled my heart with adoration for the men and women of the early logging industry. Many good wishes for today's loggers and for a future that includes sustainable logging.
Been logging for 46 years now. It has changed so much in my time. Gator
My dad worked as a logger in Arkansas in the late 40's, Oregon in the 50's and Missouri in the 60's ,70's and 80's had a little saw mill the last 20 yrs. Sawed lumber for a barn pattern the day he died. Sawdust sure brings back memories.
Saw dust. Good ol man glitter
I live in Red Bluff, Ca, and we still have logging going today, although not much. They log the mountains and haul the logs down by truck. There used to be a 21 mile long slough that was built like a train trestle, about 70 feet high, and water poured through it so they could float the logs down. It's quite a sight in pictures. I also lived in Eureka, CA, and that's where all the redwoods are. The history of logging with those huge trees was somewhat different than cutting down sequoias or pine. The redwoods have been preserved now and there is no more cutting of them. They are beautiful to walk through.
Sounds like the Terry Co. flume- they also used a steam engine on the valley floor along what is now Deschutes Rd. Engine was the J.G. Kellog. Legend has it that it fell in the Sacramento river on the south side where they transferred it to a barge to cross the river- supposedly it's still there. The builders of the current bridge sed they saw part of it (in the 60's, I believe).
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My grandpa was one of these loggers. He started at 13 and said that's also when he picked up smoking. Back in those days you weren't given a break unless you smoked. If you were millin about without a smoke in your mouth you better get back to work. He did it for many years before enlisting in the air Force and serving in ww2. He spent the rest of his older years as a successful roofer and had tons of stamina to keep going on roofing past the younger guys
My family were mostly farmers and loggers. My grandfather was a high climber and tree rigger. He was crushed by a rolling log on a landing near Powers, OR back in 1945 . My father and his twin brother drove log trucks for Cos Bay Lumber Company in the '40's and part of the '50's. My father then bought his own truck and hauled logs as a gyppo until the late 60's. On my vacations from school I rode with him in his truck on many a trip in SW Oregon and developed a love for the woods and logging processes. He worked many hours of the day from dark mornings to dark nights and the hard work on rough roads took its toll on him. I attended Oregon State University majoring in what else but Forest Engineering and Management, graduating in 1966. After 33 plus years I retired comfortably in 1999 from Weyerhaeuser Company. I still find these old pictures interesting and am in awe of these early loggers who never had to contend with the modern know-nothing environmental groups and governmental agencies that have no interest in the plight of workers but only in advancing their own agendas at everybody's expense.
James Booher if you hate democracy that much you can go elsewhere. Or you can vote to give all public lands back to this kind of free enterprise and allow someone else to profit and charge us for access all the same. People like you talk like government isn't just another business in the profit competition and that it isn't somewhat guided by the democratic voice of the shareholders (citizens). Why do you hate competition and citizen input? Where does that leave your idea of America these days?
Extremely well put James. I worked in a logging camp at the far end of the Dean River Inlet, Kimsquit B.C. and got to talk to a lot of people in forest management and bear biologists, not a single person in those environmental groups will tell the truth if it doesn't somehow match there idea of reality and there own personal agendas. Far too many jobs have been lost simply due to false and made up B.S.
In regard to liberals/environmental wackos- "You cannot enlighten the unconscious".
With deepest sympathy and respect for your grandfather’s passing in such a tragedy. Thank you so very kindly for sharing your family and your legacy with all of us! God Bless!
If you walk the woods today, in the right places, you can still see stumps with spring board holes cut into them.
My father was a faller and I actually watched the last log drive in this country, Lewiston ID where I grew up. The dam on the North Fork of the Clearwater killed the log drives, was a sight to see! Hard work, made you tough, killed many people...
My grandfather would sharpen his own blades every night. He was a bucker in the Humbolt area where they were they were logging redwoods. He lived out of his truck with a camper set up.
Many of the photos in the beginning our pictures taken from my great great Uncle Darious Kinsey! He was a photographer For many of the logging camps in Western Washington! But his family and ancestors of mine all settled in Snoqualmie! Including my greatgrandmother Maxine Kinsey! There pictures of the hotel and Feed and Mercantile shop they owned and operated! At the Snoqualmie train depot. My Great grandmother is it one of the pictures as little baby! Love the video and the sap runs through my vanes! As the men that are in this video! Our mechanized technology as made it much easier for us than it was for them all of those years ago! Cheers to the great men of the woods! Hat's off to the women and there family's. That had loved the hard men that had and have such a difficult dangerous jobs such as this! Thank you God bless!
I have a book of Darius and his brother Clark's old logging photographs.
I am a New Hampshire Logger and love your great great uncles book!
I have a 320 page book mostly about Sedrick-Woolley , it has awesome pictures by Darius Kinsey
@@user-qj3vz7jk6i Sedro, Woolley has a lot of his originals on display at the Sedor-Woolly history museum in Washington state.
In the 1970s rivers were still being used to transport logs in Northern California. Logging trucks were also used. In the late 70s early 80s the mills I knew were all closed.
What a great presentation!! My great grandmother ran a logging camp near Johnsondale. Before this she was a switch line operator on the railroad working in Oregon and washington. She left a daily journal and a stack of photos. This video is inspiring. I need to get her materials together and share.
That would be good to see.
one of the best things I have ever seen on youtube! thank you!
My commentary would have been vastly different. Thank you for the walk through history in America. ❤ It gave me visuals for what I already knew.
Thank you for a Great time in history.
Thanks for a great documentary from a logging family in Queensland Australia
It’s crazy the size of those logs!!
My dad and both his brothers were loggers from 1929 on. Starting in and around Columbia County, Oregon. Began cutting timber with the crosscut saw at that time. He referred to them as the old hand briar or misery whip. One uncle was killed in a logging accident during the early 40s, while my dad was overseas in the Philippines during WW2, when a block (huge pully) slipped off a yarding donkey while they were moving it, and hit him in the head. One of the guys in the pic at 1:36 looks like pics I have seen of that uncle. I'd love to know the date and location of that photo. My dad moved to Linn County Oregon after the war, moved on to chain saws and continued cutting timber primarily til the mid 70s. Though took some jobs on the rigging crew during the late 40s til early 60s from time to time. He never preferred those jobs to cutting timber though. My other uncle liked the rigging crew better, said chaser was the best job in the woods, and stayed in Columbia County til the late 50s when he moved to Northern Calif to log a few years, then on to Rodman Bay Alaska til the mid 60s, when an injury forced him to quit the woods, and work other jobs til retirement age. While my uncle worked near Eureka and then up in Alaska, my aunt, his wife, worked as a logging camp cook at the same time and places Thanks for posting this interesting video.
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And did ONE of them replace just one of the 1000+ year old trees that was cut they are not replaceable no matter how you look at it I live in P.N.W. the only big trees left are in people's yards not in the genetecly altered mono culture overplanted forest of today which can be cut with a 10" homelite chainsaw that's what got replaced in a forest with monster cedars and Doug firs and and and that a great thing to be proud of
My grandpa, and his three sons - one of them my dad - had a similar history. In S. Oregon from Coos Bay and Brookings to Klamath County and N. Calif. down to Ukiah. Every summer mom and four kids camped in or near the logging camp and I specifically remember the camp cook (north of Bly, I think). She was a rugged, profane and beefy Polish lady. Boy-oh-boy, those breakfasts! I would love to know her story, now that I think of it!
Well done! Brings back memories of the men & machines I witnessed growing up as the son of a PNW logger.
I worked 2 winters helicopter logging up 4th of July Creek about 20 miles north of Salmon Idaho in the 1970's. Luck had me in it's sights! The saw boss turned out to be Curly the legendary faller of the 1950's and 60's. He was straight out of your documentary and I am darn glad I got to work with him. One tough man who knew right from wrong and loved to laugh or punch you in the nose, either way he was going to have a good time.
In this presentation the narrator said a fellow went out of business when he lost is donkey in a poker game in Squamish well my two grandfathers (Fidele Laviolette and Amide Levesque)won a donkey in a poker game about that very time in Squamish and that is how they started logging. I have two cousins on the Levesque side still living in Squamish.
Paul Laviolette That’s Awesome my friend it’s a big part of history.
Small world.
Gottlieb Goltz smaller back then!
I'll see your hundred.. and raise you a STEAM DONKEY haha!
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I bought my first pair of Caulk boots in 1965...I started early enough that I worked on a Sled-Mounted Yarder, and we rigged a Standing Tree, and Raised a Tree on the next setting....the Hooker found out I could hit with both hands, so I was put to spiking the Left-hand side of the wraps on the guy-line stumps, (no screwy hooks back then),..........and this is a GREAT testament to the men that actually built this country...no lumber, no building...thank the loggers, if you get a chance, yesterday, AND today ....onWard......
Love the old footage iM a fourth generation timberfaller from oregon love it lots of changes in years iam 55 yr old 35yrs for me still working.
This is a first class documentary. I love the detail on the machinery and how it works. Even with steam power and crawler tractors this had to be the toughest job around...No sissies need apply...Except for the "Whistle Punk" of course. LOL
If my experiences on the Canadian oil patch are any indication, if you were a sissy when you started out, everyone would get you sorted out real quick. Either you grew a thick skin are you were through. Imagine a 17 year old kid taking that job in our day!! Sounds absurd, but so much of what determined people's behaviour in that day was necessity, and folks rose to the occasion.
@His Masters Voice hey what the man says is the way it was back in the day I mean yeah everything's politically correct today but guess how a lot of those houses that everybody lived in got built buy these tough and Rumble people I mean hey if you can take it get out of the kitchen
Terrific footage and presentation. Thank you!
I have watched this video several times and will probably watch it again, it is great, My grandfather had two youk of Oxen he used in the woods of northern Utah, He died in 1900
Thank you for that glimpse into the past.
Excellent. Thank you.
Good documentary!
10 out of 10 for this historic video.
Logging industries come long way from 1929 to today..the market change a lot.thank you video
Amazing video ! My commute to work just got a whole lot pleasant.
If you ever get a chance to hike in the West Coast wildness area's the old growth trees will impress you. Mt. Lassen has some truly amazing old growth tress along the Pacific Crest Trail that only costs five or six miles of hiking to enjoy. There are several other wilderness area's of the PCT that impress but Mt. Lassen has some beauty's.
Wow! great documentary!
Amazing! Even the photography in those early photos must have been quite a chore given the bulkiness of cameras during that period.
It’s amazing how they got the huge logs out of the woods
Let’s go brandon
The Shay power delivery arrangement is similar to how a 4x4 truck equalizes power delivery between forward and rear and right and left. It was an intelligent design.
Wow. Super informative. Huge thanks for the thoughtful and fascinating detail
what a great video thank you for taking the time to upload this.
Fascinating footage & narration
Personally I edmire those people even though they aren't around anymore
Very well done I thoroughly enjoyed this,thanks
GREATvid to watch!!!
Fantastic video, thanks for sharing!
great video!!!! thanks
You did brilliant on this if you ask me I enjoyed it very much for showing me a perfect picture of history Have a Good Day my friend
Excellent video, I am an Aussie raised in the timber industry and to this day stills run through my veins.
Imagine bumping into one of these dudes in the saloon after he just received a dear John letter and finds he has nothing to lose to stove in your face..
I once found a pocket watch in the hollow of a logged stump as a kid. Had the initials J.P. Seymour on it but I've never found the the descendants to return it to.
Absolutely fantastic thank you!
Wow i loved this video! Way to know their history i showed rhis to my hubby and he loved it❤
Thankyou for this, very cool
A coastal hand faller is still a Damm hard man they work where machines can't hard terrain in shit conditions most of the year
Absolutely fantastic video!
i have spent time looking at old famly photos of my granddad dad we all have logged to see all this old pic and filems take me back to my younger days
Anyone else love the music? I played it as I drove a semi through Maine
That’s talent, how did you shift?
This job is not for any body. I drove a log truck back in these mountains of east Tennessee and south west Virginia. You can get hurt bad or killed real fast. I really liked my job and had a lot of fun with the loggers. More times than one I took doughnuts to the loggers and they loved it. More than one time they let me load out first...lol..Thank You for the video brings back many thoughts of back in the day.
I have photos of my great grandfather logging in the 1920s/30s in Oregon and Washington.
Very intersting thankyou :-) Learnt alot
very good
Спасибо. Интересный фильм.
К нему бы ещё и перевод, о-ооо....👍✌
My father was killed logging by a falling limb near Seaside, Oregon in 1945 when I was 3 years old.
Widow makers..rip
Knew a guy who was bucking a 5 foot fir. He was catapulted up into the air when a green fir hooter limb fell out of another tree. That limb was 1 foot in diameter and 10 feet long. Missed this guy by 3 feet. They figuerd it fell 100 feet. The bucker didn't even know what happened till it was all over. It was not his time
to die that day.
My great grandfather built a mill in boulder UT it had a giant water wheel to power it. My grandfather father worked it and my dad worked there as kid. I was hauling out of mill in panguitch UT, spotted an old 2 man saw by shed, few years later they shut it down. Old boss called me said your only one who liked that saw you want it, I said yep. I still have it 30 years later in shed. It's 7 feet long. I have a collection of logging antiques including 2 man hand saw in my living room. I still cut trees but just to clear for new sites. Long ways from great grandpa.
Fantastic video 👏🏻 bravo 👏🏻
Loved it,only thing missing is the balloon. Port Eliza,circa 1995
We were the first owners after the Homesteaders of a farm at Ladd Hill, Oregon. It had been 160 acres but was cut up and we bought 57 acres in 1950. Most of it was still second growth woods, but the stumps from many of the original trees were still there. Many were 8' or more in diameter and still had the chopped in holes where the lumberjacks put their planks to stand on while they cut the tree down with axes, and misery whips.
In those days, it was normal to see three log loads on the gas log trucks, with some of them holding a single log. These days, the logs that were left in the woods as trash are all you see on the trucks.
Now days, in Oregon, when the land is logged, it must be planted within a year. They still log off woodland tree farms, but most of it is regulated such that there will always be mature trees to harvest.
Boy... does that take me back!!
Worked as a whistle punk on several islands on the West Coast for Parbac Logging. Ended up setting chokers up an down the west coast and spent a short spell bucking logs in Alice Lake. Still have my old cork boots that I wore for many years... made by Woods in Vancouver, I recall. Great video of how it really was in the old days!
It's normal now to see 25 to 30 "logs" on a truck. Pecker poles.
@@arnenelson4495 it’s actually easier for lumber mills to process similarly sized smaller trees. it’s easier to maneuver and generally deal with them compared to the giant lumber of the past.
McMillan Blodel is a huge company in the logging industry. Air,land and sea.
That was great !!!! Does anyone know about the rubber tired skidder at 30:50 ? It looks like it has double drum
on top,
legacy indeed! this is a fascinating video of a fascinating industry. hard workers. you could see the pride on their faces of a job well done in those early photos. i bet they slept well at night with insomnia nary a problem. the Bible says in Ecclesiastes 5:12 The sleep of a labouring man is sweet, whether he eat little or much: but the abundance of the rich will not suffer him to sleep.
This was my grandfather's world both in British Columbia and in what is now very near the Microsoft Campus in Redmond.
There's a very good book on steam donkeys in Oregon at the library !
At 1:50 the picture of a sled piled high with logs being pulled by horses isn’t from the west coast its from Michigan when they were clearing almost all of the white pine forest.
Superb thanks
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Grays Harbor Washington had huge trees back in the day. I wonder if those loggers ever came across Sasquatch?
nice video
Absolutely great video ...
A good read is the coauthored book called UNION JACK. The book tells of the IWA times of Jack Monroe and the part that he played in making safety in the woods more important than profit. The death toll from the lack of safety was shocking and the men who worked in the woods were wasted in the hundreds for profit. Sadly, Jack has died but his legacy of WORKSAFE BC will live on and the working life of all persons is safer for him having passed this way.
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Ya but I’ll always remember jack not calling a strike for the loggers( even though they had voted to strike) to support the pulp and sawmill workers in the mid seventies, lots of secret deals going on back then
My grandfather died on a steam donkey in 1945 near the Trask River .
the old photos tell the story
I had an Army buddy who worked the logging camps of northern Michigan and Sothern Caneda. Get a few drinks in him. He could tell you things that would stand your hair on end.
I can believe that
From stump to ship is a great documentary film also
When men were men and sheep were nervous
I done the cuttin down when I logged but it’s nothing like these guys done it
When I was working in a sawmill we would cut about 2 million board feet of lumber a day
I am a retired arborist & these MEN are as TOUGH as they come. The work is HARD & DANGEROUS.
Don’t forget, the man who was in charge of driving the ox was called a bull punch, or if it were donkeys he was called the donkey punch.
Different names in other areas, "drover, bull wacker, muleskinner" to name a few.
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At 16 minutes, I wonder how that loco got on top of the other. I never saw that before and it is funny.
That made me look a few times as well , we are on the same track .
Paul, can you imagin a poker game where everything is on the line.You gotta have big cahunas.These guys were beasts.love them.Live long and prosper. Peace Out Rich
Awesome video. BC sure has some absolutely beautiful country that's for sure!!
My friend who was a climber lost his life to an OD last year. He built his own tree company from the ground up and a damn drug took his life.
Interesting❤❤
I can't begin to imagine the accidents that occurred when power chains were first used due to that they had no chain brakes especially those 2 man saws.
Those big saws didn't have a problem wth kickbacks. Small saws are far more susceptible to that.
If you know how to use a saw properly, the brake should NEVER activate.
@@davidoakley3256 it wasn’t kickback it was the habit of grabbing what used to be the smooth backside of the saw but now had teeth as you left the stump.
Ya kickback was the least of the dangers back then 😂