Hey guys, watching this video 3 years after it was put up (lol). I purchased an ERide Pro SS 3 months ago and put a whopping 2,800 miles on it. I recently purchased Milk Racing 18" super fat rims with supermoto tires and I eventually plan to get Warp9 16" offroad rear from you guys in the future. With that said, if you read this, could you guys put out a video that shows how to check and tighten your spokes? I watched a few videos and they use a special tool, which from just watching the videos, I do not understand exactly how the tool works to tighten the spokes. Thanks for your time and all of your knowledgeable videos. You guys are AWESOME!!!!!!
I had heard the term before, but never realied you could adjust the spokes in this way. Great video and explanation that should be seen by more riders, not just the sur-ron segway crowd.
Thanks for the great video!! I just installed a Kenda Track Master II 100/90-19 on the rear of my Talaria Sting, and it all went to plan. After hunching over a 5 gallon bucket I was very jealous of your tire stand.
I could also install Michelin Starcross 100/90-19 also on Talaria Sting without cutting any knobs using that method. Just one question, I haven't noticed anything yet but could it have an impact on rideability or rim itself?
Great tutorial, could you comment on different size hub spacers for a boost fork, maybe file down the breake side spacer (16mm ) and add spacers to non breake side (22mm) then a 3mm rspacer behind the rotar. Appreciated.
so basically it’s not left loose, right tight…it’s left tight..right loose… is that correct? i have to dish my wheel tomorrow and want to be sure clockwise is loosen counter clockwise is tighten right?
I have a torque spoke wrench and am going to dish my wheels. Am I correct in the assumption that once the wheel is dished, the torque numbers will be different for the spokes on one side of the wheel than the other? For example if I dish the wheel to the left, I have to tighten the spokes on the left side and loosen the spokes the same amount on the right side. Therefore the spokes on the left side will be torqued to a higher number than the spokes on the right side. Is that right?
All wheels are "dished" to a spec for each bike. As long as your spokes are properly tensioned and none are loose that is what provides strength. In the front you always want the wheel centered in the fork. In the rear we often move them away from the chain to clear larger tires which means you are moving the tire off-center. There are a few people who claim they can feel it affecting the bike's turning, but we cannot feel the difference and dish all our wheels to fit 90/100 tires and have put 1000's of very hard miles on them.
I just got warp 9 wheels and tried to dish them away from the chain. The 16 inch wheel on my sting with the adapters left me tons of space on the disc side. Unfortunately it seems the spokes don't have enough adjustment on that side and feel bottomed out already.
Plus the rim wobbled kinda bad out of the box. I got it to straighten up but unable to dish away from the chain. Might have to take it to a shop and spend more money.
Hi Jonathan, if you purchased those Warp9 wheels from us we can dish them for you if you want to send them back. Also, Warp9 is very customer friendly, if you want to contact them directly they will be happy to help. Sorry to hear this, definitely not the norm.
The Starcross 6 is actually heavier than the 5 for some reason so we are sticking to the 5 for Surrons. We sell this in our Talaria Stage 2 package with a 100/90-19 and it will require a lot of wheel dishing to clear the chain. Lots of info here: chargedcycleworks.com/collections/upgrade-packages/products/stage2-package-for-talaria
I certainly would rather my wheel be dished properly and know it is good-to-go (better long term fix) rather than removing knobs that are needed for traction (short term fix trying to work around the problem). Imagine riding hard and having your rear tire slide out on every right-hand turn, that's the unfortunate reality of trimming tires.
This is normal especially with MTB forks and boost vs non-boost. The 5mm spacer and different spacing on the forks can cause your wheel to not be aligned within the fork properly. There is nothing wrong with dishing your wheel to center within the fork. Plus many people ride their wheels until the spokes are loose and they need this video to correct it and bring it back into center and true. There are many reasons this video is important.
We do that with our wheels, but people often install larger tires on their OEM wheels which require dishing to fit. Also tires are very different widths and in the case of some that are wider with very little clearance it can be necessary to do some additional dishing to fit them.
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Hey guys, watching this video 3 years after it was put up (lol). I purchased an ERide Pro SS 3 months ago and put a whopping 2,800 miles on it. I recently purchased Milk Racing 18" super fat rims with supermoto tires and I eventually plan to get Warp9 16" offroad rear from you guys in the future. With that said, if you read this, could you guys put out a video that shows how to check and tighten your spokes? I watched a few videos and they use a special tool, which from just watching the videos, I do not understand exactly how the tool works to tighten the spokes. Thanks for your time and all of your knowledgeable videos. You guys are AWESOME!!!!!!
Recent customer and working through this issue exactly. Thanks for laying it out step by step.
Love the laser engraving at the end ! Excellent video and well explained, thank you!
I had heard the term before, but never realied you could adjust the spokes in this way. Great video and explanation that should be seen by more riders, not just the sur-ron segway crowd.
Thanks for the great video!! I just installed a Kenda Track Master II 100/90-19 on the rear of my Talaria Sting, and it all went to plan. After hunching over a 5 gallon bucket I was very jealous of your tire stand.
Did you still have to cut knobblies off the tyre on chain side? Or did you get away with dishing rim, also did you use standard rim ?
I could also install Michelin Starcross 100/90-19 also on Talaria Sting without cutting any knobs using that method. Just one question, I haven't noticed anything yet but could it have an impact on rideability or rim itself?
currently bingeing all of your vids
So simple and well explained - thanks!
Great tutorial, could you comment on different size hub spacers for a boost fork, maybe file down the breake side spacer (16mm ) and add spacers to non breake side (22mm) then a 3mm rspacer behind the rotar. Appreciated.
Because it's a 20mm hub the only difference is the rotor spacing. Your standard 5mm boost spacer behind the rotor should work perfect.
Thank you , on point quick and easy!
so basically it’s not left loose, right tight…it’s left tight..right loose… is that correct? i have to dish my wheel tomorrow and want to be sure
clockwise is loosen
counter clockwise is tighten
right?
I have a torque spoke wrench and am going to dish my wheels. Am I correct in the assumption that once the wheel is dished, the torque numbers will be different for the spokes on one side of the wheel than the other? For example if I dish the wheel to the left, I have to tighten the spokes on the left side and loosen the spokes the same amount on the right side. Therefore the spokes on the left side will be torqued to a higher number than the spokes on the right side. Is that right?
Hey, maybe stupid question, but Is it safe? I may need to dish my 16 inch rear.
All wheels are "dished" to a spec for each bike. As long as your spokes are properly tensioned and none are loose that is what provides strength. In the front you always want the wheel centered in the fork. In the rear we often move them away from the chain to clear larger tires which means you are moving the tire off-center. There are a few people who claim they can feel it affecting the bike's turning, but we cannot feel the difference and dish all our wheels to fit 90/100 tires and have put 1000's of very hard miles on them.
I just got warp 9 wheels and tried to dish them away from the chain. The 16 inch wheel on my sting with the adapters left me tons of space on the disc side. Unfortunately it seems the spokes don't have enough adjustment on that side and feel bottomed out already.
Plus the rim wobbled kinda bad out of the box. I got it to straighten up but unable to dish away from the chain. Might have to take it to a shop and spend more money.
Hi Jonathan, if you purchased those Warp9 wheels from us we can dish them for you if you want to send them back. Also, Warp9 is very customer friendly, if you want to contact them directly they will be happy to help. Sorry to hear this, definitely not the norm.
What size head do I need?
unfortunately there are many different sizes, best thing to do is measure your nipples in mm. We commonly use 5.0, 6.5, 6.7, 6.9, 7.0
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Can i use Michelin Starcross 6 100/90 R19 57M for Talaria?
The Starcross 6 is actually heavier than the 5 for some reason so we are sticking to the 5 for Surrons. We sell this in our Talaria Stage 2 package with a 100/90-19 and it will require a lot of wheel dishing to clear the chain. Lots of info here: chargedcycleworks.com/collections/upgrade-packages/products/stage2-package-for-talaria
4.5mm crescent wrench is bettert than a spoke wrench imo
I second this
Which is preferred to dish the rim or trim the tire? Is there a benefit to one over the other?
I certainly would rather my wheel be dished properly and know it is good-to-go (better long term fix) rather than removing knobs that are needed for traction (short term fix trying to work around the problem). Imagine riding hard and having your rear tire slide out on every right-hand turn, that's the unfortunate reality of trimming tires.
@@nathanweaver7680Ahh makes sense! Thanks very much!
If you are into Nascar and only make left turns then go for the knobbie removal technique. haha
I’m trying to build my rear 18x2.15 wheel does anyone know the type of spokes I need or where I can Buy them from
Buchanan will build you a set or if you are in Hawaii give Merlin a call.
Do you know where I can buy the spokes for my excel 18x2.15?
@@ballinboy0911 Buchanan
This is bad info you should never run a wheel out of dish no exceptions. Get a tire that fits.
This is normal especially with MTB forks and boost vs non-boost. The 5mm spacer and different spacing on the forks can cause your wheel to not be aligned within the fork properly. There is nothing wrong with dishing your wheel to center within the fork. Plus many people ride their wheels until the spokes are loose and they need this video to correct it and bring it back into center and true. There are many reasons this video is important.
How about we just make the wheels centered to begin with
We do that with our wheels, but people often install larger tires on their OEM wheels which require dishing to fit. Also tires are very different widths and in the case of some that are wider with very little clearance it can be necessary to do some additional dishing to fit them.
@@ChargedCycleWorks I understand in the rear but you where doing the front wheel in this video
@@ChargedCycleWorks What is the influence of an off centered rear wheel ?