@havierbardem820 Rampardos is bulkier than Pikachu. Faster with scarf. Hit harder with sheer force- boosted rock slide compared to thunderbolt. Also hit harder with head smash compared to volt tackle. Has good coverage in zen headbutt, superpower, earthquake and ice beam. Can pursuit-trap. Can reliably set up hazard with sash+head smash. The only good things that Pikachu has are speed and electric immunity. But why would anyone uses Pikachu when Raichu has everything similar but better? Pikachu gets completely outclassed by Raichu Edit: Pikachu is obviously trashier
yeah but it still has a very low hp and terrible defenses, best case scenario you revenge kill a slower mon and instantly die to faster attackers (anything with at least 95 speed), priority or even the recoil or get used as setup fodder by grounds
Jimothy Cool and Freezai are the best thing to happen to competitive pokemon in the last few years hoping for Big Yellow to get a similar big break like theirs
I used to watch Big Yellow's videos at first but eventually it bored me. For now i only watch this channel when it comes to competitive Pokémon "though i really don't care about competitive itself, only the information"
Something that's always given me a level of respect for GF is that they actually made the mascot character of the Pokemon series usable in virtually every facet of the game without actually making it overpowered in any. Even in competitive it's always been almost good enough. Watching someone bust out Pikachu in a tournament is like watching a guy whip out Mario in a SSBM tournament, you know it's a bad idea but you can't help but cheer for them. Also this makes me want a video on the competitive history of Clamperl.
I get your point but mario is actually a very higly regarded character in smash competitive hes one of the highest skill cealing a character can get since most of his gameplay relies on the player itself good point bad example
Let's Go Partner Pikachu/Eevee trademark moves are absolutely insane as well. They did a great job buffing them to be reliable starters in those games.
The definition of a glass cannon, but it’s cool that pika has any niche compared to the other 3 electrics that are so dominant, and that SP ATK after the boost is crazy for Gen 3 .
The biggest issue with Pikachu is just use modest magnet 270 speed zapdos. It hits with the same level of destructive power but Isn't dugged and has real bulk. Alternatively use leftovers which would probably do more than magnet
This is why I love competitive play, Pokémon for years has always reminded people we haven’t figured everything out with the series and people seem to forget that this series can be very complex, like yugioh, so many combos nobody has figured out
I unironically love using Pikachu in gen 9. Tera normal fake out and quick attack is pretty funny, but it actually becomes good in nat dex where you can use the event Pikachu with extremespeed. That with fake out and Tera normal makes it actually somewhat viable
you gotta do a vid on that insane miltank (so a miltank video in general), and how it was so badass in that gen 3 match. that was the coolest part of the series so far imo. so unexpected
I only started playing gen 3 when ADV revival was announced and even though i got eliminated i still love playing the format. Im trying to experiment with new teams and interesting pokemon. Im so glad i started playing this format, its the most fun ive had in pokemon in a while.
in gen 9 pikachu received the nice buffs of trailblaze (which lets it cover its low speed weakness) and tera-ice (which lets it hit almost everything that resists electric). unfortunately pikachu STILL is not good enough for OU. it could use a few minor stat buffs.
I used to play with pikachu in a "water trap team". a threatening threatening water type or two, a pikachu with lightning rod and a miltank with sip sapper. Basically the water types are there to lure grass or electric attacks, just to switch to the appropriate mon and start the pain, which in the case of the rat included encoring it into repeating the mistake a few more times. Any decent player probably could see thru it, but it was pretty fun to wreck legendary spammers with it and get accused of hacking.
I used to run red's team competitively back when gen 7 ou was popular, scored consistently in the 1600s with it too. I didn't run light ball, but instead a focus sash, endeavor set with quick attack since extreme speed wasn't move-slot compatible with endeavor. Nuzzle for speed control, and usually volt switch to either save pikachu/raichu for ☠fodder or to hopefully get off another endeavor/nuzzle later in the game. I don't play competitive anymore, but if anyone wants to run a pikachu I can guarantee that this set will at least trade one for one each game.
pikachu is like a super glass cannon, compare that to slaking for example which has a higher attack stat still, is insanely tanky, faster and deals way more damage because it can use choice band and it has higher stab damage as well with hyper beam.
Jimothy Cool, I have a question. How would both Raichu and A-Raichu stand in the metagame, if Light Ball would give them a +50% bonus to Atk and Sp. Atk?
Yea i was hit w/ disappointment when i found out that pikas att was only doubled in gen 4+, he wouldve had really good options like brick break, focus punch and even quick attack. What a shame
You know I don’t think we have actually seen a raikou in the tournament yet I can’t really imagine it doing much though compared to jolteon and zapdoes
Seeing pikachu and butterfree being used unironically is just one of the things that makes gen 3 OU great. (Well, for given values of OU.) Speaking of butterfree, will we get a Butterfree, Electrode or Poliwrath video ?
Butterfree does have a history in VGC Gen 8. It had a niche role of being the best sleeper with Compound Eyes, Sleep Powder, a usable speed stat, and not many, if any, better options. It also got a GMAX form for some reason.
Okay... I know it would be a bad idea to take Pikachu's 50 base special attack, something that already reaches Kyogre heights when paired with Light Ball, and then almost doubling it... But I want Light Ball for Raichu.
Honestly light ball should've just been an offensive eviolite for the entire Pika line so Raichu would actually be a compelling option. Pika was doomed to be gimmicky anyhow.
I guess Pikachu plays similarly to Medicham, Marowak or even Slaking. All mons with massive power out of the gate that despite their massive flaws, regularly tempt players to try and make them work but need a ton of dedicated support to do so
Light Ball got stronger overtime too. That’s why I used a Pikachu in a BDSP playthrough. Was annoying to get but it was like having a pocket Legendary Pokémon with those offensive stats lol
I vvish there was a mechanic where unevovle pokemon could gain the base states if its final evo but loses the benifit of unevo items like evolite and being able to evo.
I think the idea of this comment is for cosmetics, basically the Pokémon evolves but still looks like its prior evolution. I am terrified at the idea of the mind games that would be played in such an alternative timeline. For example, players nickname their Eevee “Eevee” and then evolve it, now you have no idea which Eeveelution they chose and the type/moves of the opponent. In other words, some mons suddenly become Zoarark but WORSE
Exactly how does the math work for Light Ball's boost? I assumed it would be 50 SpA x 2 = 100 SpA, but obviously not if it puts him above Alakazam. *EDIT*: Never mind, I found it: Every Stat except HP = (floor(0.01 x (2 x Base + IV + floor(0.25 x EV)) x Level) + 5) x Nature
Gen 3 is before the physical-special split and Electric is a special type so it makes sense to just focus on special attack. Especially when you consider that the best coverage options of HP Ice and HP Grass are also both special.
@@Rptor_ Hence why I said Mid, I was also speaking more of design than competitive play(Not that any of them are that great in those regards, if you exclude megas)
Pikachu managing to down the top tier mon in OU TTar, is really funny. I still hate it though. Overhyped shit like Charizard. At least Charizard got Megas and is a cool design and typing (esp with the fairy resist)
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My favorite damage calculation to illustrate Pikachu's defenses:
252+ Atk Slaking Scratch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Pikachu: 209-246 (99 - 116.5%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
he can live 6% of the time dam
I mean, slaking does have base 160 attack.
Lol Slaking doesn’t even have claws
6% Pikachu: "Tis but a scratch!"
@@D-S-G.Anime pikachu: i like those odds
Pikachu is much like Rampardos, damage at the cost of all else
At least its fast lmao
Attack isn't everything
-FSG
At least Rampardos is much better because it can hold other items
Pikachu aside, I wish Rampardos got access to the ability Dazzling. As someone who loves Rampardos, most of my sweeps lose to priority.
@havierbardem820 Rampardos is bulkier than Pikachu. Faster with scarf. Hit harder with sheer force- boosted rock slide compared to thunderbolt. Also hit harder with head smash compared to volt tackle. Has good coverage in zen headbutt, superpower, earthquake and ice beam. Can pursuit-trap. Can reliably set up hazard with sash+head smash. The only good things that Pikachu has are speed and electric immunity. But why would anyone uses Pikachu when Raichu has everything similar but better? Pikachu gets completely outclassed by Raichu
Edit: Pikachu is obviously trashier
Regardless of what pikachu does bringing him won't ever be as cool as bringing a duskull alongside dusclops
Parents day > overhyped mascot
don't talk to me or my son ever again
In current games light ball also doubles Pikachu’s ATK stat which is higher to begin with and hits really hard with Volt Tackle
yeah but it still has a very low hp and terrible defenses, best case scenario you revenge kill a slower mon and instantly die to faster attackers (anything with at least 95 speed), priority or even the recoil
or get used as setup fodder by grounds
Thank you so much for introducing Diglett by calling him "Dugtrio's son". This means a lot to me.
"Don't talk to me, or me, or me, or my son ever again"
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Jimothy Cool and Freezai are the best thing to happen to competitive pokemon in the last few years
hoping for Big Yellow to get a similar big break like theirs
Big Yellow has more subs and their Pokémon videos get more views than Jimothy I think. Big Yellow just doesn't upload as much.
I prefer jimothy by a far margin
Big yellow has a bigger channel than Jimothy though? They have more subscribers at least
Based opinion. Just rattled off the only 3 poke tubers I watch.
I used to watch Big Yellow's videos at first but eventually it bored me. For now i only watch this channel when it comes to competitive Pokémon "though i really don't care about competitive itself, only the information"
Imagine if Pikachu could use eviolite and lightball at the same time. It wouldn't be top tier but it'd be cool
I feel like it wouldn't maje muck of a diff. It would want a speed boost more
“Double Fisting” ability. This Pokémon can hold two items
His defense still sucks 😊
@@wafflebroz don’t… don’t do that. Don’t do that ever again.
@@lucaslevinsky8802 True. even eviolite won't fix her longevity
That Kyogre comparison is actually insane LOL
Something that's always given me a level of respect for GF is that they actually made the mascot character of the Pokemon series usable in virtually every facet of the game without actually making it overpowered in any. Even in competitive it's always been almost good enough. Watching someone bust out Pikachu in a tournament is like watching a guy whip out Mario in a SSBM tournament, you know it's a bad idea but you can't help but cheer for them.
Also this makes me want a video on the competitive history of Clamperl.
I get your point but mario is actually a very higly regarded character in smash competitive hes one of the highest skill cealing a character can get since most of his gameplay relies on the player itself good point bad example
@@padq1183 oh my bad i meant SSBM, not SSBU. I know he's pretty solid in the more recent games
6:05 Butterfree: *clicking every viable move possible for viability*
Butterfrees ready to risk it all 😭😭
Imagine if Pikachu had the same stats GF gave to it in Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee. 80/75/120 would be nuts
vvish GF nraise its hp to base 50
Let's Go Partner Pikachu/Eevee trademark moves are absolutely insane as well. They did a great job buffing them to be reliable starters in those games.
The definition of a glass cannon, but it’s cool that pika has any niche compared to the other 3 electrics that are so dominant, and that SP ATK after the boost is crazy for Gen 3 .
The biggest issue with Pikachu is just use modest magnet 270 speed zapdos. It hits with the same level of destructive power but Isn't dugged and has real bulk. Alternatively use leftovers which would probably do more than magnet
Pikachu is kinda a pure wallbreaker; huge offensive strength, no bulk, and mediocre speed
This is why I love competitive play, Pokémon for years has always reminded people we haven’t figured everything out with the series and people seem to forget that this series can be very complex, like yugioh, so many combos nobody has figured out
I unironically love using Pikachu in gen 9. Tera normal fake out and quick attack is pretty funny, but it actually becomes good in nat dex where you can use the event Pikachu with extremespeed. That with fake out and Tera normal makes it actually somewhat viable
you gotta do a vid on that insane miltank (so a miltank video in general), and how it was so badass in that gen 3 match. that was the coolest part of the series so far imo. so unexpected
Name a more iconic duo: Game Freak and screwing over Raichu
I only started playing gen 3 when ADV revival was announced and even though i got eliminated i still love playing the format. Im trying to experiment with new teams and interesting pokemon. Im so glad i started playing this format, its the most fun ive had in pokemon in a while.
Kollin7 also captained his team to ADV league s14 glory...
I believe raichu should also be able to get the boosts from light ball. Imagine a chubby rat being one of the most op mons
That'd be bonkers
See: Azumarill
As long as Alolan doesn’t benefit from this, but even then, regular Raichu might even go to Ubers with that change
@@Nameless0131I misread this as Raikou and thought you were completely mad. Raichu with light ball would also be wild though.
It should only get a little buff in attacking stats and would be fine. 90/90 is abysmal..80/105 would make much more sense
@@Nameless0131 it would have over 600 sp attack with light ball if it also received it's 2x boost
i know pikachu has been seeing more play, but i dont know if calling raichu a "dead beat father who deserved the divorce" was really needed
in gen 9 pikachu received the nice buffs of trailblaze (which lets it cover its low speed weakness) and tera-ice (which lets it hit almost everything that resists electric).
unfortunately pikachu STILL is not good enough for OU.
it could use a few minor stat buffs.
imagine if raichu had light ball
Now Imagine Alolan Raichu having Boost from lightball. And doubled speed under Electric Terrain.
@@notshockwavedemon7543 you can't do that to regieleki
I used to play with pikachu in a "water trap team". a threatening threatening water type or two, a pikachu with lightning rod and a miltank with sip sapper.
Basically the water types are there to lure grass or electric attacks, just to switch to the appropriate mon and start the pain, which in the case of the rat included encoring it into repeating the mistake a few more times.
Any decent player probably could see thru it, but it was pretty fun to wreck legendary spammers with it and get accused of hacking.
That's the spirit! :D
Pikachu serves well as a glass canon.
This is perfect for the ADV Revival finals, hope we get to see it!
Fun fact, Alakzam is more bulky than Pikachu.
When you and your son beat pikachu in both tiers
I used to run red's team competitively back when gen 7 ou was popular, scored consistently in the 1600s with it too. I didn't run light ball, but instead a focus sash, endeavor set with quick attack since extreme speed wasn't move-slot compatible with endeavor. Nuzzle for speed control, and usually volt switch to either save pikachu/raichu for ☠fodder or to hopefully get off another endeavor/nuzzle later in the game. I don't play competitive anymore, but if anyone wants to run a pikachu I can guarantee that this set will at least trade one for one each game.
pikachu is like a super glass cannon, compare that to slaking for example which has a higher attack stat still, is insanely tanky, faster and deals way more damage because it can use choice band and it has higher stab damage as well with hyper beam.
imagine if it had galvanise extreme speed
Jimothy Cool, I have a question. How would both Raichu and A-Raichu stand in the metagame, if Light Ball would give them a +50% bonus to Atk and Sp. Atk?
If only light ball doubled his attack this gen, he would be so valid!
Yea i was hit w/ disappointment when i found out that pikas att was only doubled in gen 4+, he wouldve had really good options like brick break, focus punch and even quick attack. What a shame
Nice content bro
Im still flabbergasted by the mere idea of pika being viable
On the bright side, Pikachu was S-Tier for a long time in Pokemon Unite.
I believe in you Jimothy, win with the power of friendship and be like Ash
You know I don’t think we have actually seen a raikou in the tournament yet I can’t really imagine it doing much though compared to jolteon and zapdoes
It can work, just requires a lot of support. Zapdos is the most common electric cause it's totally self sufficient
Not seeing Raikou is extra weird considering we've seen volbeat and duskull put in some work
Never underestimate Sub CM Raikou. It's a terror with the right support.
Seeing pikachu and butterfree being used unironically is just one of the things that makes gen 3 OU great. (Well, for given values of OU.)
Speaking of butterfree, will we get a Butterfree, Electrode or Poliwrath video ?
We need a Duskull video 😂
They aren't good, hclat uses them for memes
Butterfree does have a history in VGC Gen 8.
It had a niche role of being the best sleeper with Compound Eyes, Sleep Powder, a usable speed stat, and not many, if any, better options.
It also got a GMAX form for some reason.
Okay... I know it would be a bad idea to take Pikachu's 50 base special attack, something that already reaches Kyogre heights when paired with Light Ball, and then almost doubling it... But I want Light Ball for Raichu.
Imagine Pure Power, or sheer force pikachu that would be insane espcially if you consider my man would be exploding stuff that arent imune
They should allow Raichu to hold the Light Ball. No reason why he shouldn't.
This is a Pokémon.
Let's go partner Pikachu with light ball
Galvanise Fake Out Extreme Speed goes hard in some OM
If light ball doubles speed as well then we’d have something.
Please give us Gorochu, GameFreak.
You can have Pichu back.
Imagine being so much better than everyone else that you bring weird gimmick strategies just to be potentially challenged.
Light ball should have given Pikachu speed too.
Insane content
Can you do a video on Clampearl bc with Deepseatooth, it also hits like a truck?
Honestly light ball should've just been an offensive eviolite for the entire Pika line so Raichu would actually be a compelling option. Pika was doomed to be gimmicky anyhow.
So here's a question if pikachu with lightball can be okay in OU then how good is it in gen 3 UU?
So, unless talking about the anime, Pikachu is essentially a glass cannon, assuming the Pikachu is holding its unique held item.
I'd love to learn more about that butterfree 👀
I guess Pikachu plays similarly to Medicham, Marowak or even Slaking.
All mons with massive power out of the gate that despite their massive flaws, regularly tempt players to try and make them work but need a ton of dedicated support to do so
Light Ball got stronger overtime too. That’s why I used a Pikachu in a BDSP playthrough. Was annoying to get but it was like having a pocket Legendary Pokémon with those offensive stats lol
- How many replays of hclat's Pikachu using Volt Tackle against Osterzone's Calm Mind boosted Suicune do you want?
- Yes.
Do Raikou or zapdos with magnet hit similar damage thresholds as Pikachu with light ball?
Diglett, my son
I vvish there was a mechanic where unevovle pokemon could gain the base states if its final evo but loses the benifit of unevo items like evolite and being able to evo.
I think the mechanic you're describing is called "evolution"
wat
This is an insane pokemon comment.
I think the idea of this comment is for cosmetics, basically the Pokémon evolves but still looks like its prior evolution.
I am terrified at the idea of the mind games that would be played in such an alternative timeline. For example, players nickname their Eevee “Eevee” and then evolve it, now you have no idea which Eeveelution they chose and the type/moves of the opponent. In other words, some mons suddenly become Zoarark but WORSE
@@yowza9638 nope pretty much the pre-evo gets the base states of its evo form but keeps it's ability.
Exactly how does the math work for Light Ball's boost? I assumed it would be 50 SpA x 2 = 100 SpA, but obviously not if it puts him above Alakazam.
*EDIT*: Never mind, I found it:
Every Stat except HP = (floor(0.01 x (2 x Base + IV + floor(0.25 x EV)) x Level) + 5) x Nature
Its funny that all the top tier electric types in ADV OU are all Gen 1 mons
This is insane.
Are these updated sprites? They look so crisp for some reason.
If only Pikachu had like 125 base speed
A best pics/plays of ADV revival round 1 would be cool
*Stage 1
I love the move Batin pass
If lightball doubled everything do you think pikachu would be to good for ou?
Light ball boosts both of his attack stats though?
Gen 3 is before the physical-special split and Electric is a special type so it makes sense to just focus on special attack. Especially when you consider that the best coverage options of HP Ice and HP Grass are also both special.
It does not boost its attack in gens 2 and 3, started in DPP
I had a buddy named pikachu once 0:03
Pikachu is my Gen 9 OU lead. Ain't no Great Tusk lead able to handle the combo of Fake Out + Surf. Although drought and Ribombee really ruin my day 💀
Light Ball is just Soul Dew for Pikachu.
If bro have 130+ speed it will be UU OR UUBL .
How has he got a Zuko avatar sprite?
The mascot and face of pokemon. Lets give it atricious stats so it cant be used competitively.
You should cover VGC content too!
BREAD
BREAD
BREAD
It's a shame Game Freak did not give Pikachu an ability better suited for its role. Static is no good if you cannot take some contact hits.
Where do I sign up
This is a rofl moment
I'm gonna try to get top ladder in gen 3 ou with my boy pikachu, and man is it gonna be hard lol
whats does OU stands for
Overused, the next tier down is Underused
Volt tackle shouldve been 150
Yeah a Electrik Type Head Smash so wild charge can became Volt Tackle
This why Ash Pikachu are so strong
Which game is this???
A website called Pokémon showdown, this video is covering how the game works in the generation 3 games specifically.
Lightball Go BRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
old sprite pikachu is the only good fat
Rock head pikachu
charizard is way more epic
I’m inclined to agree
They are both terribly mid.
@@luisfreitas3416Charizard is decent in Gen 3 though
@@Rptor_ Hence why I said Mid, I was also speaking more of design than competitive play(Not that any of them are that great in those regards, if you exclude megas)
Agree
Pikachu managing to down the top tier mon in OU TTar, is really funny. I still hate it though. Overhyped shit like Charizard. At least Charizard got Megas and is a cool design and typing (esp with the fairy resist)
Pika pika.
HCLAT = Real Red 😂
ngl saying plusle is viable in nu is a great way to sell nu
Pikachu
Honestly they should have given Pikachu a bigger boost in special attack with light ball and have the item also give it an increased speed stat.
Trap them in
Buff pikachu
BUH TAWN is how u pronounce baton lmfao