The Gen 3 OU Iceberg Explained [Part 1]

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  • Опубликовано: 24 янв 2025

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  • @jimothycool
    @jimothycool  11 месяцев назад +46

    Check out our Gen 3 OU Commentary at Revival Tournaments:
    www.youtube.com/@RevivalTournaments/videos
    Outro Music by Pete S - open.spotify.com/track/1x5XyA7jac3Hv8ha0ra76G?si=6aZiwsiVSPSCP1-Bq89b-w
    Jim's Good Mugs - jimothycool.com/

    • @Jaydenlkm
      @Jaydenlkm 11 месяцев назад

      Jimoty col

    • @subtodicerat8305
      @subtodicerat8305 11 месяцев назад +4

      i love gen 3 ou

    • @koolaids7538
      @koolaids7538 11 месяцев назад

      I love jimothy cool

    • @LtCommanderTato
      @LtCommanderTato 7 месяцев назад

      Gamefreak messed it up with Tyranitar. Sand storm should only last 5 rounds if he isnt on the field.

  • @YungBaymax
    @YungBaymax 11 месяцев назад +812

    Find yourself someone who loves you as much as Jimothy loves Gen 3 OU

    • @15futo
      @15futo 11 месяцев назад +8

      That is the kind of true love i want for myself

    • @Naryar-fr
      @Naryar-fr 11 месяцев назад +29

      who needs a girlfriend when you've got gen 3 OU ?

    • @OswaldAurelia
      @OswaldAurelia 11 месяцев назад +2

      I have a partner who loves me more than dota, and he's spent about 9k hours in dota

    • @EmiliaHoarfrost
      @EmiliaHoarfrost 11 месяцев назад +1

      I do@@Naryar-fr

    • @undercoverweeb
      @undercoverweeb 11 месяцев назад +3

      Already done
      Smogon and banning shit that isn't named gambit

  • @vholtninja2976
    @vholtninja2976 11 месяцев назад +367

    [Part 1] is crazy I cannot wait to exclaim "this is insane" when it is all said and done

    • @0nomatopoeia714
      @0nomatopoeia714 11 месяцев назад

      I will certainly do the same thing.

    • @BrightofNight
      @BrightofNight 11 месяцев назад +6

      I also vow to proclaim how insane [Part 2] will be

  • @glitchedoom
    @glitchedoom 11 месяцев назад +370

    The past paradox form of Regice, Regiceberg.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 8 месяцев назад +11

      Don't forget Dugtrio's paradox's future form: Iron Dugulis

    • @rafaelinyoutube4175
      @rafaelinyoutube4175 2 месяца назад +4

      Regice’s future paradox form, Regiglobalwarming

  • @kek13223
    @kek13223 11 месяцев назад +150

    My favourite thing about gen 3 is Magneton trapping Skarmory and then dugtrio trapping magneton and then porygon 2 trapping dugtrio

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 11 месяцев назад +36

      where is the morally reprehensible pokemon gardevoir

    • @TheGreatKakunaKing
      @TheGreatKakunaKing 3 месяца назад +3

      Everybody gangsta till I pull out soft sand yoloskarm

  • @abel_36
    @abel_36 11 месяцев назад +204

    idk why but an exploding choice band metagross terrorizing players is so funny to me lmao

    • @HarryvandeSunweb
      @HarryvandeSunweb 11 месяцев назад +27

      it can literally OHKO a 252HP EV tyranitar from full health 100% of a time with damage to spare. Unless you use protect on the right turn or switch in a ghost type, something's dying

    • @vbt678
      @vbt678 11 месяцев назад +63

      The definition of “killing myself in front of you to forever change the trajectory of your life”

    • @jazzercise300
      @jazzercise300 11 месяцев назад +18

      Hp 128
      Atk 252
      Speed 128
      Choice band
      Meteor Mash
      Earthquake
      Rock slide
      Explosion
      and shiny of course
      I love banded metagross so much, yall got no idea lol such a fun and easy to use mon

    • @butteredsalmonella
      @butteredsalmonella 11 месяцев назад +10

      Its like running Lead Azelf minus the Stealth Rocks and the Azelf

    • @HarryvandeSunweb
      @HarryvandeSunweb 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@butteredsalmonella I mean CB metagross meteor mash also does 30.8-36.5% to the most common skarmory set which is usually ppl's best switch in, it dents everything.

  • @bloopyspoopy6191
    @bloopyspoopy6191 11 месяцев назад +710

    Gen 3 competitive singles has a history stretching back twenty years.

    • @Clexie368
      @Clexie368 11 месяцев назад +165

      Full of incredible stories, metagame developments, controversies and lore

    • @Mondo78951
      @Mondo78951 11 месяцев назад +151

      Gen 3 OU remains one of the most popular old generations of competitive pokemon to this day

    • @NachoMountDewCat
      @NachoMountDewCat 11 месяцев назад +128

      And we are still seeing freguent innovations in high-level tournament play.

    • @Garren-kx2jg
      @Garren-kx2jg 11 месяцев назад +41

      this is insane.

    • @Hazel776FE
      @Hazel776FE 11 месяцев назад +11

      Wow.

  • @junkyardsoul3757
    @junkyardsoul3757 11 месяцев назад +62

    I had no idea CroCune was actually named after someone. I always assumed it just stood for Calm Mind, Resttalk, One attack suicune.

    • @freddiesimmons1394
      @freddiesimmons1394 6 месяцев назад +4

      I thought they said Grokune
      Like
      Suicune's nickname was gokune (goku suicune) and calm mind was making it grow

  • @ValianceGames
    @ValianceGames 11 месяцев назад +78

    Gen 3 OU is 100% the Melee of Pokemon singles. It's fundies heavy, with fewer options overall leading to individual Pokemon having more flexible and meaningful niches. Very straightforward metagame because you know what to expect most of the games. Techs and options that cannot exist in other games because of the mechanics being different (such as the physical/special split). The community absolutely carries this on their back, since everyone else moved on already, so to speak. There are a lot of cool highlights to gen 3 that we never got to see outside of these guys pulling that community with their teeth.
    It's honestly really freaking cool to think about. I love that this video can exist.
    Iron Mugulis will not outperform this vid. Probably just going to react to this anyway to farm views. Insidious cup

  • @Naxafa
    @Naxafa 11 месяцев назад +66

    45 minutes video, you're really working hard for this channel and the viewers. Thanks.

  • @Joosvva
    @Joosvva 10 месяцев назад +5

    My god hearing the elinia music from maplestory during the mr mime ban segment activated me like a sleeper agent

  • @dominicdifranco4897
    @dominicdifranco4897 11 месяцев назад +55

    best way to start the day is with a new and jimothy cool iceberg alongside a iron mugulus of coffee

  • @Glidus
    @Glidus 11 месяцев назад +37

    Ice is a start, but when will you be tackling the other 17 Types of Berg?

    • @FlamingZelda3
      @FlamingZelda3 11 месяцев назад +3

      Personally I like to run dragonberg.

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  11 месяцев назад +22

      Andy Samberg explained is coming soon.

    • @sethnaffziger1402
      @sethnaffziger1402 5 месяцев назад +1

      Normalberg incoming!

  • @bendelia1878
    @bendelia1878 11 месяцев назад +41

    glad someone with such large knowledge on the metagame is making a video like this! cant wait for part 2

  • @massimilianodelrosso5495
    @massimilianodelrosso5495 11 месяцев назад +29

    22:37
    I never realized that Wak's gen III sprite has two right hands.
    This is insane.

    • @RobWirdWachsen
      @RobWirdWachsen 11 месяцев назад +3

      what do you mean? His body is the second curve behind his right arm. His hand splits up around the bone. And the left arm has a left hand

    • @massimilianodelrosso5495
      @massimilianodelrosso5495 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@RobWirdWachsen Look better at the left thumb, it's on the wrong side.

  • @SilverSmith459
    @SilverSmith459 11 месяцев назад +14

    I attempted to find Iron Mugulis's video titled "The Drinkware Iceberg" so I could slander it in the name of Jimmothy Cool, but the algorithm kept it from me. I think he's teamed up with Old Money to pay off RUclips executives to keep his video safe from Jimmothy Cool subscribers.

  • @reddy4play
    @reddy4play 11 месяцев назад +19

    21:39 The passion in his voice while saying this kills me

  • @kurenian
    @kurenian 11 месяцев назад +13

    This is honestly really great! For someone who has watched all of ADV Revival, there were some terms like yolo skarm that I didn’t quite understand. It’s nice for beginners to get definitions all in one video

  • @DarkAuraLord
    @DarkAuraLord 11 месяцев назад +7

    This was definitely a change of pace from your usual content, but a good one! Can't wait for part 2.

  • @masterrdf418
    @masterrdf418 11 месяцев назад +7

    MOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM THE 46:15 JIMOTHY COOL VIDEO ESSAY ON GEN 3 OU JUST DROPPED!

  • @SevroAuBarca04
    @SevroAuBarca04 11 месяцев назад +5

    This is one of my favorite jimothy cool videos ever. This is certifiably insane work! Keep the love and knowledge for Gen 3 coming!

  • @heart3460
    @heart3460 11 месяцев назад +5

    This is something I've been looking for to get into ADV OU. I think this will help me a lot and others.

  • @victorlinares4137
    @victorlinares4137 11 месяцев назад +13

    Iceberg and niche pokemon content? Banger vid

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse 11 месяцев назад +6

    how incredible is that an hour long vid felt less long, it was very digestible

  • @propanesquid5234
    @propanesquid5234 11 месяцев назад +2

    You are without question my favorite pokemon channel of all time, I only see this level of quality of competitive pokemon analysis nowadays for either SV or VGC history, keep up the awesome work! 🔥

  • @HoChiPro
    @HoChiPro 11 месяцев назад +17

    Gen 3 lore, this is insane

  • @Luragon9876
    @Luragon9876 10 месяцев назад +1

    Exceptionnal quality, well constructed and informative video. I love learning metagame lore like this (the Houdini bit was hilarious). Part 2 will be, for a lack of a better word, insane.

  • @McMeghan
    @McMeghan 11 месяцев назад +18

    Houdini comes from Smurf for the record

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  11 месяцев назад +12

      Never knew that!

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 11 месяцев назад +1

      roro sighting!

  • @haschnrt
    @haschnrt 11 месяцев назад +2

    omg this brings back some memories man - thanks! :)
    old NB/RSbot-player back in the early 2000's :D

  • @shimogane2474
    @shimogane2474 7 месяцев назад +2

    Im rewatching the Ice Berg and it is such a good video, even for the concept I really like.

  • @muffinman7000
    @muffinman7000 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Silent Quick Claw section cracked me up 🤣 30:59

  • @ladonmccabe
    @ladonmccabe 11 месяцев назад +1

    This is truly insane. Definitely a fun video. Cant wait for pt2

  • @charliebartlett5768
    @charliebartlett5768 11 месяцев назад +34

    Jim, can we get some Gen 3 UU coverage? No idea what goes on in that tier.

    • @moe5177
      @moe5177 11 месяцев назад +8

      He doesn’t play UU so I doubt he’d cover it

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 11 месяцев назад +1

      Don't worry about it. It's not very good.

    • @votedthatoneguy
      @votedthatoneguy 11 месяцев назад

      You mean KU?

  • @LawOfOne_Elris
    @LawOfOne_Elris 11 месяцев назад +2

    you are a master of blending entertainment and information. very cool

  • @Naryar-fr
    @Naryar-fr 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for explaining some concepts to us, Mr. Jimothy. We gen 3 newbies are a little... overwhelmed by the jargon sometimes.

  • @getmilked6216
    @getmilked6216 11 месяцев назад +2

    THIS VIDEO HAS ANSWERED MANY QUESTIONS I HAVE HAD ABOUT GENERATION THREE.

  • @dobaggins9104
    @dobaggins9104 11 месяцев назад +3

    You’re kidding me with the Jimothy iceberg we are EATIN

  • @kinsmanne98
    @kinsmanne98 11 месяцев назад

    finally started to actually play some ADV recently after a few months of just spectating and watching your videos then suddenly this comes out. this is insane. you are my hero mr cool

  • @NotIre-fr9md
    @NotIre-fr9md 7 месяцев назад +1

    I remember fondly our polish gen3 community around 12 yo where I learned how to play pokemons profesionally by using in tournaments my in game teams good times

  • @stellunablaze9291
    @stellunablaze9291 11 месяцев назад

    Wow, your videos taught me a lot more about Gen 3 OU than I realized. A decent chunk of things you talked about this video I already knew

  • @Kai-zu1cy
    @Kai-zu1cy 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think it would be really cool If you choose some pmd music where the deeper you go with the eisberg chart, the music changes to those of deeper stages in the dungeon.
    Also it would be cool to have a short introduction or pause when progressing to the next stage.
    Love your videos

  • @kimi9606
    @kimi9606 11 месяцев назад +2

    I really love this video. I would love to get into comp gen 3 but I feel like learning it would be a chore

  • @stephenmartin9807
    @stephenmartin9807 11 месяцев назад +1

    Been trying to get my friends into adv but feels like theres a lot to explain but this does a lot of it for me in a concise way.
    Good work Jim, and good luck in your continued struggles against Iron Mugulis

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 11 месяцев назад

      It is very knowledge-heavy, and this can often get in the way of having fun because you need to keep your brain on overload in order to not fall into a trap.

  • @bakurasensei
    @bakurasensei 11 месяцев назад +2

    This is the greatest thing I never knew I needed. Now I need one for every gen, every tier and every salty playground meta ever crafted

  • @icedlemongamer
    @icedlemongamer 11 месяцев назад +1

    wish i could see the larger iceberg at least periodically as you speak on each topic, it helps the theming of the iceberg-type video quite a bit for me, otherwise excellently explained on each topic

  • @rajkanishu
    @rajkanishu 11 месяцев назад +2

    46 minutes of Jimothy Cool commentary. This is insane.

  • @Drxxyt
    @Drxxyt 11 месяцев назад

    Loved the vid can’t wait for part 2

  • @christiansoto6396
    @christiansoto6396 9 месяцев назад +1

    i came into GEN 3 OU blind so seeing these niche picks finally makes sense to me 💀

  • @paladin0969
    @paladin0969 10 месяцев назад +1

    “I can’t think of a better #1 pokemon in any other format”
    Gen 2 snorlax:

  • @azeria1
    @azeria1 11 месяцев назад +11

    I hope the drinkware iceberg includes the crystal skull vodka bottle

  • @silverkoffee
    @silverkoffee 11 месяцев назад +1

    I really liked the video.
    I have never played Pokémon, but I have been watching FalseSwipe gaming for years. I slowly came to a general understanding of the game and its mechanics, but there were a lot of unexplained gaps.
    I found your channel a month or two ago and have watched you for dozens of hours at this point.
    Now I know why I never see you play Snorelax. It requires a lot of team support, so it isn't flexible can't be slapped on to most teams.

  • @sogstarr
    @sogstarr 11 месяцев назад

    I love the iceberg analysis! Thanks for making this video Jim :D

  • @Carson_Gardner92
    @Carson_Gardner92 11 месяцев назад

    This was my first time hearing about the Gen 3 counter/hidden power glitch. Interesting stuff!

  • @slowpr0
    @slowpr0 11 месяцев назад +1

    Dang man I considered myself decently knowledgeable about gen 3 but I learned a whole lot of mechanics and strategies. Cool vid

  • @Apterygidae
    @Apterygidae 11 месяцев назад

    Great video! Enjoying it a lot, looking forward to part 2!

  • @schmuben8580
    @schmuben8580 11 месяцев назад

    Loved this, great work with the explanations. Can't wait for pt 2

  • @swissmagic
    @swissmagic 11 месяцев назад

    great video, you got me into experimenting with teams on the ladder you absolute maniac

  • @billzoaiken
    @billzoaiken 11 месяцев назад

    This was a fun video! Looking forward to the rest.

  • @eeveewithcoffee9554
    @eeveewithcoffee9554 11 месяцев назад +1

    What I want to know about the physical special split is why they decided to make ghost a physical type but only have three ghost types that are all special attackers in Gen 1. And why they made two ghost moves of lick and night shade

  • @Scurrying_Snail
    @Scurrying_Snail 11 месяцев назад +3

    This is outstanding

  • @AkamexAris1023
    @AkamexAris1023 11 месяцев назад

    Absolutely love anything Gen 3. One reason why I will forever love your channel 💙

  • @SoyFelipeCTM
    @SoyFelipeCTM 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice vid Jim keep it up

  • @Asidders
    @Asidders 7 месяцев назад

    19:53 I was today years old when I discovered that "KO ends turn" thing. Holy shit 🤯

  • @richardjones6767
    @richardjones6767 11 месяцев назад

    very good video, maybe pokémon specific icebergs for stuff such as esoteric spreads and strategies could be fun!

  • @lucasicuranza6630
    @lucasicuranza6630 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video!

  • @viktor9274
    @viktor9274 11 месяцев назад

    I can conclude I belong to the third layer. Looking forward to the next episode to learn more about my favourite gen's competitive scene

  • @awesomeraichu59342
    @awesomeraichu59342 11 месяцев назад +1

    I’m actually interested in playing Gen 3 OU because of your videos

  • @lambdaman256
    @lambdaman256 11 месяцев назад

    Illumise's Illustrious Iceberg seems like a smash hit. Can't wait for part 2.

  • @jcl2435
    @jcl2435 11 месяцев назад

    Great topic, I knew most of these because of you and others gen 3 enthusiasts

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 7 месяцев назад

    I've been a bit busy running what if my cousin's character was a Pokémon. Turns out, Fire/Psychic with a great movepool and some well-distributed stats creates something that can stay in OU for multiple generations.

  • @creeperman1295
    @creeperman1295 11 месяцев назад +1

    In terms of Taunt turns, and since I didn’t see it on the Iceberg image at the start of the vid (I may have just missed it lol), a tangent move is Encore. It’s not specific to Gen 3 since it’s also relevant in Gen 4 but the Encore turns are variable, lasting from 2 to 6 turns compared to moderns Gens where it always lasts for 3. Less relevant than Taunt I think but still interesting I think

  • @eric0369
    @eric0369 11 месяцев назад

    Love this idea. Hyped for Part 2

  • @SludgeBob_
    @SludgeBob_ 10 месяцев назад +2

    This guy Jimothy is pretty cool

  • @hoennfanboy
    @hoennfanboy 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome video btw i will be subbing and looking forward to watching pt 2. Gen 3 is my favorite ever

  • @Isabelle-mp8rk
    @Isabelle-mp8rk 11 месяцев назад +2

    i disagree with the idea that sleep talk's reset wasn't intentional, i think it was a deliberate nerf after seeing how rampant sleep talk + rest was in gen 2, same as it not being able to call rest anymore

  • @nonplayercharacter12333
    @nonplayercharacter12333 7 месяцев назад

    Quick Claw was so quick you couldn't see it coming. You could get jumpscared by an exploding Steelix.

  • @eduardoboulocq3135
    @eduardoboulocq3135 10 месяцев назад

    Banger bgms. Nice work!

  • @patrickphilip777
    @patrickphilip777 11 месяцев назад +1

    I played with u on Pokemon Showdown. I am the dude with a quick claw magneton

  • @melvinsheaddacquiri7635
    @melvinsheaddacquiri7635 11 месяцев назад +2

    45 minutes of GOOD JIM let's go

  • @hairyfroglegs
    @hairyfroglegs 3 месяца назад

    That Gengar EV spread is an absolute thing of beauty. I love the gen 3 spreads. It is one of my favorite things about the gen. Shout out bulky dug

  • @LuaShine
    @LuaShine 11 месяцев назад

    great video, really enjoyed it

  • @sjoerdjuxta
    @sjoerdjuxta 10 месяцев назад +2

    nice vid thanks

    • @sjoerdjuxta
      @sjoerdjuxta 10 месяцев назад +2

      love the maplestory music

  • @BroBuster
    @BroBuster 11 месяцев назад

    Holy smokes over 45 minutes of Jimothy talking Gen 3? Joyous day.

  • @GhostbusterPalu
    @GhostbusterPalu 11 месяцев назад +1

    A history stretching back 20 years?! This is insane folks.

  • @cambalache9139
    @cambalache9139 11 месяцев назад

    Great video My guy

  • @usernametaken017
    @usernametaken017 6 месяцев назад

    2:02 Shoutouts to Jim for using "myriad" correctly

  • @jorgen_von
    @jorgen_von 11 месяцев назад +1

    8:24 you called Aerial Ace a bad move, however I just watched your Cacturne OU video, and it seems to me like a real counter move against evasion. Not for competitive tournament rules, but at least for a normal gameplay, just wanted to point that out.

    • @cryptooooooooo
      @cryptooooooooo 11 месяцев назад

      it doesn't do enough damage. Dug choice band aerial ace doesn't even 2 hit cacturne, even without leech up

    • @jorgen_von
      @jorgen_von 11 месяцев назад

      @@cryptooooooooo Got it, and how about Salamence? Or is it considered not worth compared to Hidden Power?

    • @cryptooooooooo
      @cryptooooooooo 11 месяцев назад

      @@jorgen_von Yeah, misses too many KO ranges.

  • @TheSandwhichman108
    @TheSandwhichman108 5 месяцев назад

    I like of like how attacking moves work in gen 3.
    Especially for nuzlocks.
    It makes these kinds of challenges like a fun puzzle.

  • @ThePotatoTechnique
    @ThePotatoTechnique 4 месяца назад

    i cant escape that darned sols rng song, everywhere i go its there

  • @dankinmcspankin3123
    @dankinmcspankin3123 11 месяцев назад

    love the freezai shout out yall are literally my 2 favorite poketubers

  • @atticusfinch8792
    @atticusfinch8792 10 месяцев назад +2

    OOOOHHHHH FUCK IM BAKED EATING SOME CHEESE AND THIS VIDEO WAS JUST WHAT MY BRAIN WANTED TO SEE FUUUUUCCCCKKKKK

  • @yeeuoi7333
    @yeeuoi7333 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome Video! 🤠

  • @Ushiriel
    @Ushiriel 11 месяцев назад +3

    Gholdengo is a Pokemon made of pure gold. He must have done some online business management courses to accumulate all that wealth. Or perhaps he might want to learn how to make money playing video games on RUclips. In any case, he's a powerful metagame force, with absolutely no interest in online game development schools.

    • @jimothycool
      @jimothycool  11 месяцев назад +2

      That's damn true

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 10 месяцев назад

      Garganacl is the most intelligently designed fictional creature of ALL. Everyone's favorite primate, Donkey Kong, found himself sandwiched in the Pyramids of Giza for too long, he became part of them! That sure is something.... don't you think?

  • @Runningwritingreading
    @Runningwritingreading 11 месяцев назад

    20 years of TITANIC battles and tournament play CRASHES onto my subscription page today with this ICEBERG video
    (the Titantic cruise was replaced by the Olympic pre voyage, and sank in one of the largest successful insurance fraud cases rivaling only Silversteins in 2001)

  • @grahamwylie4528
    @grahamwylie4528 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, hopefully it gets more people into the format. Now that I’ve started playing gen 3 ou (I’ve played you twice, Jim, my name is young jee tryhard), I have very little interest in the other metagames.

    • @yourdagan
      @yourdagan 11 месяцев назад

      I remember you from the BDSP days. Good on you.

  • @JohnJan721
    @JohnJan721 11 месяцев назад +1

    Jimothy Cool is the hero we didn't deserve but we needed.

  • @nentrellemmer2122
    @nentrellemmer2122 11 месяцев назад +3

    THIS WENT SO DEEP🥶

  • @competitively3315
    @competitively3315 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would love if this was done for other generations (gen 4 especially)

  • @johnsanko4136
    @johnsanko4136 11 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly, I was one of those people turned off by Gen 3's lack of physical/special split, but the big tournament you ran changed my mind on the idea. I like the concept that every pokemon doesn't need to run purely stab moves to be effective.

    • @tecul1
      @tecul1 11 месяцев назад

      it ain't good or bad, just different

  • @hodanisbased4980
    @hodanisbased4980 11 месяцев назад

    I've left this video more knowledgeable about Generation 3 Overused and it's history. This is cool.