I just wanna preface by saying that I'm also doing a Gen 3 living dex, and I wanted to share a bunch of advice with you: 1. Colosseum has a really easy bug where you can essentially reuse the same pokeballs infinitely, and you might wanna exploit tf out of it to complete that game. Pretty much all you have to do is, with at least two separate types of PokeBalls in your inventory, use the PokeBall you want with the first Pokemon, and then swap it's position in the bag with the second pokemon and do literally anything else. 2. You don't need all 7 games to get a Gen 3 dex, you only need Emerald, Colosseum, XD, and LeafGreen (not FireRed, because for some weird reason, there's no other legit way to get the Slowpoke line). 3. Pokemon Box can allow you to easily "trade" massive amounts of Pokemon simultaneously between the GBA games, as well as act as a single hub for organizing all of your mons. You still have to painstakingly do 6 by 6 trades if you wanna get the mons out of the spinoffs however. 4. Take advantage of Goppier's recent reverse engineering of the gen 3 event cartridges to get all of the event items, now including Wishmaker Jirachi and SAA Celebi, completely bypassing the need for the colosseum bonus discs as well as Ruby or Sapphire to claim the US Jirachi. Although if you want to use this approach, you need a GBA flashcart and two GBA Wireless Adapters (ruclips.net/video/UZpdaHS9l2g/видео.html) (the link for the distro ROMs for Jirachi and Celebi can be found in Goppier's first community post)
There is a glitch in emerald using the pomegranate berry where you can get the events without using any additional hardware. Very cool and I would argue legit to still get these pokemon
Pomeg Berry would work definitely, though I believe it’s patched in some Emerald versions? Unsure. Either way, it’s the best option imo because it wouldn’t need to cheat, just glitch.
@@mandalorianhunter1 you can do the glitch to unlock the event. Some bad eggs will teleport you to places that have legendaries (like Southern or Birth Island) instead of directly giving you the Pokémon. Shiny hunters do that
Thank you so much for talking about the sentiment of "living in the wrong side of the world" in regards to Pokemon. Just reading about all the missing content, like the old man's house in Mossdeep, or the e-Reader berries, as well as the Old Sea Map, made me feel bad for something I had no control over, just like you mentioned. And it's important to share that sentiment with most people, who probably never understood how huge of a problem splintering Gen 3 was when it first came out.
I'm from India and Nintendo had never sold consoles in India. So I emulate all the Pokemon games as close to the original experience as possible. (No emulator perks or speed-ups). Fortunately, if your consider it legit, you can connect all the games upto gen 5 on your phone alone! (Except the jump from gen 2 to 3 of course). But I've played all the games upto gen 5 as legitimately as possible. So if you are also from the "wrong side of the world", you can find plenty of extensive guides online.
I am glad I was able to explain how you felt. The fact that before you even put the game in the console, you know you won't be allowed to access the content and feel like a persona non grata sours the experience in a way that is difficult to explain. And it sucks, because the games themselves are fantastic!
Yeah, until gen 4 introduced the wireless mystery gifts I never got a single event Pokemon. Even being in the US, I live in a dead zone of not being anywhere near where gen 3 Pokemon events were distributed, and even if I did live close enough to one I would have still been at the mercy of my parents being able and willing to take me.
@@sampanna6983 that's so strange, I spent most of my summers in India growing up, and, at least in Delhi, you could get all the Nintendo games and consoles. And I'm not talking about the hella fake consoles that you could get(Honestly those were kinda the best though pre-installed with all the games in existence!), This was the 90's though so most likely illegally smuggled into the country as many things were after the licence raj fell.
As a heads up, there's a glitch in Fire Red/Leaf Green where if the roaming legendary uses Roar, it will disappear forever. You'll need to keep that in mind if that's your target for getting them.
@@Lyra Also a glitch/bug where they have garbage stats because their individual stat values are set really low for some reason. No way to get around this, unfortunately.
I grew up with Gen 3 Pokémon and never felt that problems because I somehow never wanted to "catch them all". But I have to say in retrospective, it is a shame that they did not include Deoxys in Emerald from the beginning. So having a full post-game episode on Deoxys in ORAS was really heartwarming for me, as somehow the circle was closed. Also, Colosseum and XD are awesome. I play one them once a year, the double battle only system makes it so much fun.
Hello from a tiny island across the atlantic. I 100% felt your pain with 3rd Gen. And your optimistic take on attempting to complete the living dex many years later brought a smile to my face. I wish you the best of luck on your journey! And you've also got yourself a new subscriber. Cheers!
@@senakumo1149I'm from quite a bit further up, in the Caribbean. But I've heard from my mom who has met Cape Verdian friends how similar our culture is. I hope to one day be able to visit, seems like a lovely place!
Also regarding Colosseum and XD: you get Ho-oH in colosseum for completing not just the entire story mode - including capturing *every single pokemon in that game - but the entire battle mode as well. And Lugia in XD after completing the entire story mode. So, i think it'ss probably worth trying to capture as many of the pokemon in those games as possible because you will have to complete the game anyway.
@tylerwebb2495 Easy to do if you know what you're doing Trade all pokemon with normal, no duel type, as all 4 pokemon, it gives max flows, that is 36 normal(zigzagoon/ratatata being very good), since you want
I couldn't possibly relate more to all the points you made in this video. I played only ruby as a teenager and I couldn't possibly afford to buy x7 games plus an extra console back then, let alone travel to different countries just to get exclusive-event Pokémon. And that really felt disappointing and unfair at the time (and still now because event won't occur anymore). Really exited to see your living dex challange, keep up the good work Lyra!
>(and still now because event won't occur anymore). I think all event carts have been dumped now so you can throw the rom on a flashcart and trade the pokemon across
Thank you for the kind words! I am super excited for the Living Dex challenge as well! I didn't want to talk too much about money in the video, but I completely understand how you must've felt back then. There is no way I would not have felt guilty asking my parents for a game knowing I would not even get the full experience with a single version anyway. Disappointing and unfair sums it up pretty well.
Just make sure you use Colosseum for the Johto starters. While you can get every Gen 2 starter in both Colosseum and XD, Colosseum has one available at the start of the game and the rest available later on, while in XD, you have to do the entire Mt. Battle challenge without switching your team for just one of them. Mt. Battle's challenge is 100 consecutive fights, so it's worth knowing which is faster to save your sanity.
I was a noob kid at the time, and only made it to like the 90s in Mt. Battle. My spirit was destroyed. I got the GBA-Gamecube cable and everything. Game was borrowed too so I ran out of time to get the pokemon I needed.
Pokemon XD is genuinely one of the best games I've ever played. Maybe I have my nostalgia glasses on, but it was a really good deviation from the traditional formula and had tons of its own unique heart and soul.
As someone who lives in south america, I can completely relate to not having any gaming related events in your country. Thankfully piracy is wide spread here and some stores will just sell hacked versions of the game (or hack it for you). Trying to figure out what they were doing got me into game modding.
Así es, los que vivimos en la región sabemos que tener Pokemon de eventos era básicamente imposible en esos tiempos y comprarse todas esas versiones de Pokemon para obtenerlos a todos legítimamente era también muy difícil por el tema económico
Honestamente, cuando me enteré de lo que era la piratería, me sentí mal por llevar toda la vida haciéndolo, luego vi como actúan las empresas y se me pasó
Even here in the US, most of us just used an action replay to get event Pokémon. I live very close to DC, so I was able to get some event Pokémon legitimately, at least by the time of gen 4, but even then, it was just so much more convenient to hack them in and unless you're a VGC player, nobody cares if they're hacked.
As an Australian who for gaming purposes is basically European (although there's some weird times we don't get some games even Europe does!), thank you for telling everyone about how awful events were and how bad it is some games just never came out here and there's no readily accessible, legal way to play some of them.
Seconded. I remember reading my strategy guides (which I still own) and how they talked about event Pokémon - only to read the fine print and see they're for North America only. Such a bummer.
As an Australian? My guy I'm Portuguese, we're in the same time zone as England and we NEVER got opening events on time because the games came out here super late and if we got the latter ones we were lucky because we don't have distribution centers here... I would have to travel 4-5h to a Spanish Toys R Us to get them... I NEVER saw a single copy of Pokémon Colosseum in my life, let alone a link cable... our internet providers didn't even allow us to connect our DS to the internet unless we specifically asked for it on the phone... Shit was just as bad in most of Europe unfortunately ;-;
Colosseum removes the need to replay the Gen 1 remakes and Emerald, since you'll gain access to all of the Johto starters and Legendary Beasts through it alone. Colosseum and XD are really fun games! Unique experiences in the series that are worth a play.
@@marchie1704: That's easy though. Play one of FR/LG to completion and to unlock trading with Hoenn. Start the second game, play just long enough to catch a second Pokémon so you can trade your starter to the first game. Restart the second game picking the third starter, then play it all the way up to Cinnabar Island to get all version exclusives as well as the second Hitmon and Fossil.
@@BattleTheoryit IS a spin off. The fact it’s better than many mainline games is irrelevant. Like how professional just means you get paid and amateur just means you don’t, Spin off has no negative connotations except from misuse
Something often overlooked is that, midway through the generation, there was a massive shakeup in the way the series was ran in the West. Notably, The Pokemon Company took advantage of the lull in the series to essentially consolidate and centralize their control over things. Wizards of the Coast lost control of the Trading Card Game to them after Skyridge(leading to Jamboree being cancelled mid production), merch was brought in house and taken away from other companies like Kellogg or BBs, and the anime was taken away from 4kids and had the entire original voice cast fired suddenly after Season 6. This was very controversial at the time, and rightly so(It lead to a massive disconnect in the cards, hurt merch sales for a bit, and the original voice cast in English got screwed over), but it probably made things smoother down the line.
Gen 3 was a very experimental era, which doesn't change how money grabby they were but I'd say Nintendo as a whole was experimenting with a lot more concepts and ideas then which is why there was quite a few gamecube to gameboy connectivity games. Pokemon was just the easiest to slap these concepts onto like the E Reader for example
Indeed! Nintendo and Game Freak were clearly experimenting! A lot of the Gen 3 side content feels very much like they threw everything at the wall and saw what stuck. I mentioned the negatives in the video, but it is still good that they were trying new things in the first place :')
I never cared about Pokémon as a kid, but in my teens I started to. And somehow Gen3 hit me like a truck. Both the remakes and RSE looked much more awesome than the 2 previous gens. I played them later in retrospect but I always liked the Gen3 pokémon the most and the games feel so clean to play
I was there from the begining but I still agree that gen 3 is the peak in some ways. You no longer had any hardware limitations (for this type of game) so they feel snappy and hold up visually even today. It's one of the reasons we still get flooded with great gen 3 romhacks to this day.
Gen 3 felt like it lasted forever, but in a good way. So many good games in just a few years made it feel so long. Now it seems like I blink and there's another generation
It did last much longer than other generations. I was in 2nd grade when ruby and sapphire came out and I was in 6th grade by the time diamond and pearl came out. I can’t even think of another generation that lasted that long.
I loved your content, as I live in Brazil I also didn't have the pleasure of experiencing a real life pokemon event, I always loved the idea of completing the living dex and seeing you dedicate yourself, and creating a website to help others is something very cool and brings a lot of interaction to your community, congratulations on the well done and fun content
i think events are cute in theory (i treasure the memories of getting my manaphy at toys r us) but get real grating real fast. I cant be the only one who was extremely annoyed that cresselia was available without events while darkrai the inifinityly cooler one is locked behind events
you can glitch it in diamond and pearl, its quite easy to do and possible with the arceus and shaymin events too. i know that is not the point but if you r attached to your gen 4 games like me its worth doing
Nah Cresselia > Darkrai imo. Nothing beats finishing Pearl for the first time, learning about Cresselia when you casually wanted to go to Iron Island to train, suddenly landing on her Island, talking to her and just seeing her shiny sprite box pop up before she leaves. And yeah, I finally got her the same day, with my masterball and she was indeed shiny. Nothing beats Cresselia
I hate that I’ve already permanently missed out on the BDSP events. I wish they would have them become permanently available after the next generation comes, either having a permanently available code like Magearna in Gen 7 or having an NPC give it to you like in Crystal VC
It sucked for someone like me, especially just being young. Grew up in Wales and me and my friend adored Pokemon to a point that looking back at it, my autism diagnosis was not surprising. However, being in Wales, being kids and just not being particularly wealthy, catching ALL the Pokemon was impossible for us. We tried, but we missed events, we didn’t even know about things like the mythical Pokemon you could get in game at the Pokecenter and as more games came out, it was harder and harder to keep up. (Especially since more spinoffs were needed) Furthest I ever got was Pokemon Yellow, only game I finished the Pokedex because it was thankfully just Yellow to worry about. I love Pokemon but I’d like if it was more accessible and less cash grabby. Only gotten worse as I’ve gotten older.
Well most events are available through certain DNS servers that you can connect your DSI/3DS which will allow you to obtain the Pokemon/event item. It is legal? Yeah, and who cares? Nintendo was the one who shut down the servers, people just found ways to make their own. The DS has been discontinued for several years. Nobody's gonna break down your door because you got an event Pokemon lol. _don't use it in competitive tournaments unless you actually got it through a legit event_
The real reason for the lack of compatibility between gernations 2 and 3, at lest partially, was actually down the new GBA Link cable being wired differently than the Game Boy one. A Game Boy Advance in GBA mode couldn't communicate with a Game Boy Color or GBA in GBC mode nor the GameCube via the GC to GBA cable with a Game Boy Color cartridge inserted. Also getting Ho-oh in Colosseum Gives you access to nearly all the extra Pokemon added into emerald's postgame anyways.
It was likely beyond what they were capable of back then, both skill and time-wise, but nowadays, it is possible. Look up "How I Made the Impossible Trade Between GEN2 and GEN3" if you want to see.
Not to mention the ev system. In gen 2 you can max every stat with the evs, something that was capped to 510 in gen 3 and the iv being upto 31 instead of just 15z
@@marksantiago9841 I'm pretty sure it's actually slightly higher than 510 EVs. There just aren't enough for the last few to increase a stat. But stat EXP goes up to 35,535 per stat, so there's likely some divisible number you can use to calculate the other. As for DVs, they're 0 to 15 whereas IVs are 0 to 31. Just halve/double it and you're good there.
When I was a kid playing Gen 1, 2 & 3 I had no idea about events. I saw the pages on Serebii of the Lugia, Ho-oh, Jirachi & Deoxys events but I had no idea how they worked as I was 9 years old. Compare that to my experience when I was a year younger playing Pokémon Gold & finding Lugia at the bottom of the Whirl Islands when it wasn’t even the box legendary. Absolutely shocked me & I loved it.
"I speak english because of no localization of my favorite media" is probably the number 1 reason every 20-30 year old European now knows english so well
So true. It is a good way to turn a negative into a positive, though. Once you learn to speak English properly, the amount of media you can enjoy increases exponentially :'D
@@Lyra Oh im definetely happy to admit learning english just to enjoy more games has been the best decision of my life and has shaped the way i enjoy media in every way. Maybe they had that in mind all along :P
Lyra I always get so excited when I see you upload a new video. Seems like we're all in for the long haul with Gen 3 but it should be very entertaining to see you pull this off.
Gen 3 was an incredible jump from 2º gen. For me, who didn´t even try to catch them all cause seemed impossible, the change on the plot, the map, the pokemon themselves, even the music... Its my favourite generation, because all the memories it brings to me. Looking at it now, the lack of retrocompatibility and all the things mentioned on the video makes it painful for completing the pokédex, but those games are stuck in our hearts :')
By Gen 5 you need previous games to do it. To get a living dex in BW1, you need one of RSE, one of HGSS, Platinum, and both BW games. If you were doing BW2, you could swap RSE for the other half of HGSS, but you'd need both Black and White 2 to do that (you can get all three Hoenn legends if you have both HG and SS, and the Regis and Latis are covered by BW2) Immediate edit: Now that I think about it, you'd need RSE in order to do a Gen 4 living dex, as the event that let you get the Regi trio is long-gone, so youd need the Pal Park there too.
@@yep9462 you'd actually NEED BW2 for the first games as well, because Zorua(? I think you might be able to get N's Zorua, but my memory's a bit foggy on that one) and Zoroark can't be obtained outside of events in BW, only BW2
@@lambybunny7173 You're right actually, can't believe I forgot about that with how much I've played BW1 and BW2 over the years. There's no way to legitimately obtain Zorua in bw1 save for trading it over from BW2
Emerald and Sapphire were my first Pokemon games. Emerald I had at my mom’s and Sapphire at my dad’s (divorced parents, yes). I also got Firered at dad’s place later on. I didn’t have many friends and was too shy to ask parents of i could trade pokemon with friends or ask the friends themselves (until I got Pokemon Pearl years later). So I completed as many things in gen 3 as I could on one GBA all alone. Then reset them and do it again. That was pretty much a lot of my childhood in early grade school.
Not to sound rude, but isn't the whole point of portable games that they're, you know, portable? I mean, you didn't have two separate GBAs for each parent's place, but rather one GBA that you brought with you, right? So it seems strange to me that the little game cartridges would be "region-locked" to one specific parent's house.
I was lucky to be a japanese actually completed emerald dex, I have every gen 3 game needed for it. It feels nostalgic hearing its theme, spin off colosseum and XD is actually pretty good, its hard for casual as some trainers actually have tactics and gimmicks that could rekt newer people. Goodluck on your journey
Thank you for the tireless effort you put into your website, as someone who’s trying to follow in your footsteps it will prove essential. You have my respect and condolences for doing the Gen 3 living Dex, I’m having to take a break from it myself because I burnt myself out trying to complete it. Good luck with your Dex, I’m anxious to see the fruits of your labor!
i think the best example of a tie in with another game was how in mario kart wii you'd unlock Rosalina as a playable character if you had mario galaxy save data on your console you could still unlock her without having mario galaxy, it was just a nice little tie in that skipped having to complete the conditions to unlock Rosalina normally
I started playing Pokemon in Gen 3, so the idea of actually finishing a Pokedex always seemed like a pipe dream. I do have a very fond memory of running into a kid with a game shark at a summer program and frantically trying to catch all the event Pokemon in a single recess. I wonder if all of the event exclusivity made those sort of cheat engines more popular around this time. Love the thoughts and the video!!
This also highlights how difficult it was to have rare Pokemon and legendaries back in the day; part of why Pokemon was so addictive and rewarding back then
Few people know this, but Ho-oh and Lugia are mythical pokemon in Gen 3. Professors will congratulate you for filling the national dex even if you don't have these two. Although, if you really want the super-perfect living dex then go for it, I just wouldn't mind it if you skipped them altogether. It's a similar situation with Phione and Manaphy in gen 4, even though you're able to get them from pokemon ranger.
Ever since watching Tama Hero's videos on gen 3 it's like I know something about a key generation of the franchise that many don't, because she had stuff in those videos that I didn't see anywhere else before and clearly almost no one knows about that or people wouldn't be talking about aspects of gen 3 or the remakes in general the way they do. I can't recommend them enough, her videos have incredible stuff that explain a lot of stuff of how gen 3 was made and it changes your perspective entirely about it and why Pokémon made the changes it made over the years and into the DS era. It's extremely interesting. The fact that they made it mandatory to complete the game in the Kanto remakes to trade away mons to other games to complete the Hoenn dex just to circumvent the problem of people renting games for a weekend and completing their dexes that way without buying a cartridge, worsening everyone's experience with the game just so they wouldn't lose money because of rentals is so...
My issue with Tama's video is that it's conjecture, and while could still be true as highlighted with how rentals are IMO bizzarely banned in Japan, in another angle could be seen as a way to preserve the original feel somewhat of RBY, but still having access to the rest of Gen 3 content as post-game.
@@zjzr08 I'd definitely have to agree that that idea doesn't make sense. Game Freak always used the idea of needing badges to make high level Pokemon obey you, so it really just seems like preserving the original feel of the games as well as another factor to prevent the player from getting non-Dex mons and trading with Ruby and Sapphire to be able to blitz through the games, especially since Colosseum came before FRLG and didn't have badges or an obedience mechanic. Ruby and Sapphire released so long before the rest that it does make SOME kind of sense for Game Freak to limit trading in order to prevent that from happening. Not to mention that if people can complete their dex in a weekend just from renting the games... what was stopping them from beating the game? Mewtwo is a post-game Mon, exclusive to FRLG. Several different Mons are late-game, such as the fossils. What's the idea there, that the player got a 100% Kanto dex (at least for their Kanto version) but the extra hour and a half to unlock Hoenn trading is the one thing keeping them from trading it all away to another game? What would stop them from trading it to a different Kanto game, then? And sure, this other Kanto game could also be used to power level their team, but it's a lot less likely to happen when the Kanto games released at the same time, but Ruby and Sapphire had released like two years prior to that.
Speaking as someone who started with Pokemon Yellow and then went on to play every game up to Black/White 2, let me say this: I did not enjoy any game more than I did Pokemon Emerald. Sinnoh was fun, Unova wowed kid me with 3D stuff, Kanto gave me the original experience that led me to everything else and Johto excited me even further, but something about Hoenn clicks like no other gen does. I didn't care that there were some mons locked behind crazy requirements and other games - I was too busy exploring the world and collecting all the new gen 3 mons that I could get my hands on. If someone else got one of those crazy hard mons to get, that was UNIQUE for them as a kid - not something expected at all. Honestly, the idea of feeling forced into buying 7 games and 2 consoles just to fulfill some arbitrary goal feels so alien to how kid me viewed Pokemon I don't even know how to respond. I never visited any events, never bought any of the side games, and Emerald was one of the best Pokemon experiences I've ever had. The double battles, natures, the extensive postgame with the Battle Frontier and grinding to get highly trained versions of my favorite mons to tear down the Frontier Brains - so much more fun than anything Gen 1 or 2 offered to me. I don't care if catching every single mon in Emerald is ridiculous, and maybe you shouldn't base your entire enjoyment of a game off such a small part of the actual game. It might be a healthier way of viewing the region in general. Now I don't deny that what game freak/ the pokemon company is attempting to do is scummy, releasing 2-3 different versions of the same game and then locking goodies behind entire other games to try to bait kids into playing them, but in my opinion they failed to convey this to most kids. They failed in general to attract me or anyone I knew to buy all their other stuff for the sole purpose of getting a few more mons in the main game. They didn't make their tie-ins between games strong enough to force this sort of relationship you're describing, and I'm glad they didn't because that would be a major pain in the ass. GameFreak/The Pokemon Company are scummy af (just look at what they did to the latest games), but that doesn't mean they succeeded at forcing this cinematic universe on consumers.
The issue I had as a kid was not necessarily having to buy all the games and consoles, but knowing before I even started playing that I would be missing SOMETHING. In the grand scheme of things, that something wasn't that big a deal indeed, but it tempered and soured my excitement. Why buy an incomplete game when I know of a lot of complete ones out of the box? Having started Emerald not too long ago, I absolutely agree with you: Emerald is fantastic! I cannot wait to spend hours playing it through and through, exploring the world and seeing all the game has to offer! I am having such a blast so far :'D
I've really been enjoying your channel and the progress you've made. At the start of Covid in 2020, I decided to start the journey of a Gen 3 Living Dex. It took months and I had a chart similar to your website. Excited to see your path through!
That Mew event at Toys R Us is bringing up some bad memories for me. It was for FR/LG only, but they didn't mention that anywhere so I brought my Emerald and ended up leaving with nothing after spending like an hour in line. This is the only event I ever went to that didn't use Mystery Gift.
I'm really looking forward to you doing this. Unlike gen 2, I won't be following along doing it myself but I'm super excited to watch you! Colosseum and XD are kinda divisive among fans but it's one of my favorites so I hope you enjoy! My friend is actually currently working on a gen 3 living national dex because of your videos so we're both gonna be following along
I see a few comments but I'll reiterate here, Colosseum locks getting Ho-oh until you complete not only the game, but the additional battle mode, as well as capturing and purifying all the shadow Pokemon. So maybe keep that in mind before going catch crazy for things in Emerald and Leaf Green. No point in wasting time if you're going to have to do it again as part of a mandatory section. And getting Lugia in XD isn't as involved, but you need to do a lot. You will need to catch and purify 36 different Shadow Pokemon before you can even get a chance. And.. well maybe it is a lot. Without getting too into the details, just know you're better off capturing and purifying every Shadow Pokemon as you go in both games, makes it a lot easier. Also I am glad you're playing through them, they are great and I feel more people should experience those two games. Pretty stoked to see how you like them.
I am really happy you keep watching and enjoying the videos! Good luck to you friend on their Living Dex! And yeah, I am super excited to play the GameCube games as well :')
For all the events there is a modified Aurora Ticket distribution ROM that unlocks all events in FRLG and Emerald. It was made by a guy with the channel Goppier and UndeadxReality. It is a possibility if you want to have those events in a way that doesn't involve glitches or gameshark and if I am not wrong even the Old Sea Map for Emerald on non-japanese versions is available
@@Lyra I would also use save states on emerald upon Gen2 starter selection or making a Living Hoenn Dex, transferring that to P.Box:R/S and then "stamping" a full dex onto Emerald every time Emerald becomes eligible.
@@Lyra Additionally you dont have to play all 7 (8 EU) games to finish the national dex, afaik someone looked up the best way of getting them all and you only need to play 3 (4 EU) games apparently, one of it being Leaf Green.
12:02 boy, if you're comlpaining about being european and loving video games, just take a look in what it is to be Brazilian and liking videos games. it is 5 times harder...
1. The spin offs were really good 2. The event pokemon are ideally made that much more special by their rarity 3. The game was really amazing in all aspects 4. If one actually went to these events, he or she will live to tell about it forever
Also gen 3 had some of the coolest designs and some of my favorite intros in the anime. "Unbeatable" is still one of the best intros out there. I grew up a bit with the gen 1 remakes then the gen 3 core games. It was still a great time
@@psuedonym9999 Oh I actually started with Gen 2 Gold. I was actually around for Gen 1 but didn't get to play the games. When I was at daycare, a lot of the older kids had Gameboys that played Gen 1 and some guy would bring his 64 to let us play Stadium. We did watch the anime on tape sometimes and I went to see the first two movies. I'm not a die hard fan but I have nostalgia for it.
Man, for years I thought having multiple versions was necessary to incentivize trading, a core part of the series. Then I played Pokémon Legends Arceus and had to trade with my friend multiple times because he got luckier encounters.
Damn I resonate so hard with the region lock bullshitery being an Indian. The only way to play any Nintendo games here is to either ask some family of yours living in a country where you can buy a Nintendo console and wait for them to come to India, or buy it smuggled illegally :/
Your point at 17:50 or so is precisely why I don't understand why people are only now getting mad about pokemon doing DLC to sell us pokemon they removed from the 'dex. They've always done this. It's just more obvious now.
After watching this, I don't feel so bad now for using gamesharks and action replay in order to obtain mons that are currently unaccesible. Because if GF doesn't care, neither should I.
It is sad that this is the exact feeling so many Pokémon fans seem to have. The people you would expect to care about Game Freak the most. And yet, it feels completely fair and deserved :'(
I know this is unrelated, but I think your intro explains why Scarlet & Violet have been feeling so much like Johto to me. While there are bigger elements in the game like the plot, raid battles, & the three challenges, the open world aspect of SV make the core of the game the same as it was for Gens 1-2: going around a big environment as we explore & catch pokémon. Everything else is just a bonus you can do at your own pace
Which is why it's so depressing to see the state it came out in. It really could've been the best generation, if GameFreak were given more than 3 minutes to develop it
@Mewtwo_150 Yeah Nintendo is totally at fault here. Game Freak really should have been allowed to make a finished and polished game, but of course, Nintendo wants their big moneymaker series to keep releasing a new game every year now... :/
Thank you SO MUCH for making the website! I've been trying to complete an emerald national dex on and off for 2 years now, I love these games but they're a BITCH to complete haha. Great video as always, and excited to see the videos/streams.
Hey Lyra! Hope you enjoy Pokemon Colloseum and XD! I personally really enjoy those games; not having access to a full list of Pokemon means you can enjoy playing a story that is difficulty tuned to your available mons, and also, you don't have to feel like you're handicapping yourself by not using the striongest mons available- in Pokemon Colloseum, you'll use Skiploom, and you'll be thankful, haha!
Hey Stryker! I really hope I enjoy them too! You mention something I didn't think about actually :'O Limiting the amount of available Pokémon DOES indeed allow the developers to tailor the experience to the available Pokémon, and has the potential to make strategy and planning a lot more interesting! Man, now I am even more excited to try the GameCube games out :'D
@@Lyra I'm so happy to hear you're excited! Colloseum has better atmosphere, but Gales of Darkness is a very polished game. I very much hope the games get you attached to your faithful rescued companions!
Thank you so much for talking about this. I also began playing on RBY and remember realizing I could not get all mons in RSE (I live in Brazil so no events here back then, also I never had a GameCube). This is the first time ever I see someone talking about this, thank you so much
As someone who started with Gen 3 (emerald) it will always have a special place in my hearth as I enjoyed it then and have kept enjoying it ever since. However even kid me was very bitter over the fact that event pokemon couldn't be obtained (the amount of times I pressed A on the white rock wishing for a Jirachi..) having now glitches to obtain these has completed my childhood dreams.
>has more content than gen 1 >doesn't cut any pokemon from the dex >event exclusives have been a thing since gen 1 >gen 1 remakes include everything from gen 1 and new content >less complete ?????
I really don't get that either. He had an incredibly pessimistic view on the fact there were more event pokemon than normal, which is fine, but to then say that removes from the games is total nonsense. In fact he basically said making two altogether different games was somehow removing(?!) from the gen3 games. Totally incomprehensible, made it almost frustrating to watch this.
The Sevii island online crap like the union cave was pretty much half-assed and relied too much on a wonky multiplayer aspect. That’s my biggest gripe about FRLG where the postgame is genuinely barebones because of janky stuff like that By comparison, Gen 6 games’ online features are easier to handle because of the more updated online system and GTS
I recalled watching your stream during the hunt for the last three Legendary Beasts, just a few days before another High School year started. Honestly, I wouldn't have been surprised if you decided to stop at Generation 2, with how much there is to see, region locking, how many games you need to manage, and the general vibe changing. But somehow, you're still here, continuing to go onward in spite of everything. I commend you, and hope to see you soon once again.
I welcome the challenge! And judging from the response on the Gen 2 Living Dex conclusion, people seem to enjoy watching me struggle ;') Thank you for the encouragement, I hope you enjoy the Gen 3 content!
You have no idea what a masterpiece you missed out on by not playing the Pokémon Colosseum games. By far one of the greatest storytelling and gameplay in the Pokémon franchise. I pray to Arceus one day they will remake those games.
I don't disagree that your observations are accurate, however it sounds to me like you were maybe just too old at the time to enjoy gen 3 for what it was. I started playing Ruby and my bro played Saphire when I was like 9 or something, and the fact we couldn't technically complete our pokedexes was literally besides the point: we got totally lost in the games and played new save file after new save file just enjoying the plot and the new pokemon, and team building. Emerald also added so much, and the battle frontier was amazing. I didn't feel pressured to buy anything else at all, and just playes those games with all my heart.
I am glad that Sun and Moon finally set a new precedence for the Pokédex after around a decade of... this. Sun and Moon were the first games to to get rid of the National Pokédex. Now this isn't like Sword and Shield which made Pokémon straight up unavailable through any means. It made any Pokémon outside of the regional Pokédex not count towards any completion. With Sun and Moon, all 300 Pokémon required to complete the Pokédex could be found in those 2 games, meaning at minimum, you just needed another friend with a copy to complete it. Another reason I'm glad for this is because of the Shiny Charm. It was an item introduced in Black 2 and White 2 as a reward for completing the National Pokédex, and has remained the reward for it since. It effectively doubled the chance of finding Shiny Pokémon. But it just made the task more demoralizing to know that in B2W2 and Gen 6 locked such a valuable (to certain people) item behind such an arduous and unreasonable task.
Locking the Shiny Charm behind completing the National Pokémon is a really smart thing to do in my opinion. In a way, Shiny hunting is the next step for hardcore hunters, after completing the Pokédex.
actually its more "imagine not living in paris" - everything since hundreds of years in france about literally anything , movies , music , food ,technology , government, anything
Lovely video, but the opening feels kind of inaccurate? The pokemon craze was HUGE for gen 1 and 2 if you were around. The “spinoffs, movies, and card games” you listed all existed for 1 and 2. We had several seasons of a tv show, 4 movies, and a tv special (mewtwo returns) all based on the first 2 gens. The movies were big theatrical releases too. We had the TCG, we had the manga, we had all sorts of merch and aisles of toys. Pokemon marbles, pokemon pogs, pokemon figurines, pokemon playsets, everything. We had books, magazines, guides official and unofficial. We had Pokeballs at Burger King. It was inescapable. We had spinoffs like Pokemon stadium 1 and 2, pokemon pinball, pokemon TCG for GBC, pokemon snap, hey you pikachu, pokemon puzzle league, and 6 mainline games all within about a 3 year span. We had event pokemon with mew and UNOBTAINABLE pokemon like celebi due to not getting the GS ball. We has spinoff exclusive pokemon too like the surfing pikachu from stadium. As someone who has been into pokemon since it came to the west, it feels wildly inaccurate to say it exploded during Gen III. Gen III is my favorite old school gen gameplay wise, but the reality is it was actually in decline at this point, though you may have become more aware of the franchise at that time.
Not sure what the rant about Gen 3 was about since that's kind of how all Pokemon games operated: "Gotta Catch em' All" was a slogan invented by the international markets while Japan's was simply "Get Pokemon" or something. Also I find the inclusion of other Pokemon merch like the Manga and Anime as contributing to the rant as a bit weird since that's pretty much how all multimedia franchises operate. As an example I'm not going to miss out of Lord of the Rings lore because I didn't watch The Rings of Power or buy the Lego sets.
I can easily relate myself with your situation, I'm a brazilian, and even receiving the American version of the pokémon games, we didn't receive events, there was really hard to even find a gamecube to buy, and even if you find one, most of the times the games weren't being sold over here... Now a days it's easier, but during the early 2000, being a brazilian gamer was really hard
As someone who has and plays exclusively Japanese stuff I don’t see a problem with this. Considering Japan is the size of the State of California and both of those cultures and areas are relatively similar. The premise and concept of Pokémon was to find a community and play locally with friends which was easier in Japan. I think Pokémon was more corporate and cynical outside of Japan with the catchphrase “catch them all”. So I guess that’s more of miscommunication or misunderstanding of how to implement and introduce Pokémon, but was also a catchphrase that worked and made it the popular media it is now. As far as events and other games I never saw it as bad unless you were a hard core dedicated person who took “catch them all” to heart and the primary objective of the game. Fire Red and Leaf Green were meant to be retrofits of the first games and be an accessible way to implement Red and Blue Pokémon while also adding harder to obtain Gold and Silver Pokémon. Which is what the Colosseum games did too with the mythical and legendary Pokémon being relatively easy to get while also having a newer experience. Plus they needed a game to play for TV monitors like what Stadium 1, 2 and Stadium Gold and Silver did for earlier games. Never seen your videos before and this is my first. Had to watch it because it’s my favorite and the generation we play on our game store too.
A lot of the features in Pokémon games and Nintendo consoles make a LOT more sense when you consider they were specifically made for Japanese players. Trading with your local community, like you mentioned, or the DS chat or StreetPass for the 3DS. And those people probably have a wonderful experience. The rest though... :'(
While I can sympathize with the feelings of those avid collectors among the fanbase; I think calling Gen 3 a “mess” and saying it was “split apart” for greed is a bit over the line. And of course they were distributed at places like Target and Toy’sR Us, since there weren’t any dedicated Pokémon stores at the time outside of Japan (still hardly aren’t) 99% of players born past Gen 2 don’t even bother collecting every Pokémon anyways, or even have a desire to. And the events where, (at the time anyways) just ways to make certain Pokémon more special and interesting than they would be otherwise. If you play through Emerald nornally and are genuinely mad you didn’t get a Lugia, a Ho-Oh, and a Celebi by the end, I really don’t know what to tell you man. Manage your expectations?
I'd say natures and limited EVs were a great boon for competitive players. It adds much more strategy. Now you have to make strategic decisions about what stats to max out. Attack? Defense? Speed? It also makes the meta game way less stall centric, since everything is less bulky (even defensive pokemon have to either focus on 1 defensive stat or split them, since max HP is necessary).
Some valid criticisms, but I'd argue that for the most people collecting all the pokemon was never something they intended to do. Growing up I didn't know a single person who even mentioned the idea of completing the pokedex. It's not really about the niche completionism ideology and more so about getting the specific pokemon you want. And, while this is subjective, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are some of my favorite games in the franchise and I'd much more attribute the lack of success for them to the fact that most people didn't have a gamecube. Handheld games and consoles were cheaper and the dvd playing ps2 and xbox outperformed the gamecube
Personally, Gen 3 was my introduction. My first impressions of gen 1 and 2 were how slow and broken they are, with none of the streamlining of gen 3 onwards. I also was surprised by the lack of the Sevii islands if you can believe it. I can also tell that you never played the gamecube games since, despite not playing XD as much as FireRed or Emerald just from having less content, I remember my time with XD much more because of the completely different atmosphere the game had (I never actually played Colosseum). I consider XD to be one of my favourite Pokemon games period, easily above the mainline games of the generation (though Emerald does come close). Heck, wanting to see if you'd play the GameCube games was one of the main things I was excited for for the gen 3 installment in your living dex series.
Pokémon Colosseum and XD stand great on their own. Their story, focus on Double Battles and the Shadow Pokémon mechanic is really fun to engage with and is brilliant to approach if you're a franchise veteran looking to shake things up. Hell, they are leagues better than X and Y. Go play them.
Your opinion on colosseum and xd are frustrating to say the least because you say they don’t stand in their own and only rely on the mainline games, and then you say you never played them. They are their own separate games. Just because they were originally necessary to complete the dex doesn’t mean that’s purely their sole purpose. They were both very good, and generally beloved games and I encourage you to try them because you’ll realize how good they actually are. It’s just weird to say a product you’ve never experienced relies on the mainline games when they really don’t, at least in any way remotely close to how you described. It’s like saying that one Pokémon ranger game solely exists so you can get manaphy in gen 4 despite it being it’s own and entirely separate game.
The whole point of XD and Colosseum was to bridge the gap of gen 2 to gen 3. That was the issue of the game. It was pretty much Stadium, but much slower (due to double battles), and with a story mode.
@@vDeadbolt because it was made with bridging a gap in mind doesn’t mean it doesn’t stand on its own tho. It’s a solid game that he’s talking about as tho it was Pokémon box or something with no other purpose than to be connected to gen 2/3. Colosseum is a great game and it’s weird to frame it like it’s some throwaway title when it isn’t really.
I love colosseum. It's so refreshing the whole deal of everything being a double battle and hitting the floor running. Plus that early 2000s vibe will always hold a special place for me since gen 1 and gen 3 were my first Pokémon games (i had gen 2 but slept on em until their batteries died for some reason). My only issue is its closeness to me playing stadium 2. Though i appreciate playing with all these johtomon, i was really hoping to see more Hoenn since theyre actually new models and animations than stadium 2. Then after finally beating the game and collecting all the shadow Pokémon, a problem: my memory card was on the fritz. Almost every time i'd boot up the game, it'd flag a save file corruption and send me to a previous state. My third party big chungus memory card was effectively baking itself due to that capacity, according to my reading, this meant at any time, all my Pokémon could be wiped out. So, I had to blitz through the mount battle game mode, get Ho-Oh, and start the exodus. Thankfully everything went smoothly, I even got all my tms and rare items out with my Pokémon. The save even corrupted, cloning my Zigzagoon i had carrying shadowball tm30. So i named both of them and left the clone behind in colosseum to keep watch until the end of time. Also you cant move colosseum or XD save data between memory cards hence the exodus was necessary to save them. On the bright side, this means one day I'll be able to shiny hunt through colosseum. This exodus and sapphire being my most favorite child of gen 3 with most of the Hoenndex filled, lead me to filling the nationaldex in sapphire. All that's left are the Kanto legends, Mew, Celebi, and Deoxys. (My firered copy is used and they game ended the birds and i wanna shiny hunt them in leafgreen. Thankfully i hear the legends are in XD Gale of Darkness, for when I get around to playing that one.)
I feel like if you made a discord for fellow pokemon enjoyers and collectors, it would do REALLY well. As an avid collector, I am subscribed and eagerly awaiting the playthrough for gen 3 living dex. I am curious how you will go about the event pokemon process for irl carts unless this will be done via roms.
I remember being a middle teen with anxiety, going into a gamestop, researching online to make sure an event genesect in X&Y was available in my country, hyping myself up for the week it was available, only barely being able to get myself over my fears on the last day to go in, and the employee working the register told me "oh, that's America only"
Sometimes when I see a Pokémon Emerald Cartridge, I have to remind myself That while I love the game, what I miss isn't the game itself, but the nostalgia of being on a car ride playing it on my little red GameBoy Advance SP, plugged into a car charger, on our way to/from Grandma's, or the beach, or wherever.
first amazing website great work on that! but i also want to mention that alot of the problems with events in gen 3 are to do with there primitive nature as in gen 4 and onwards you can get wifi events that are still around today being hosted on fan servers id say if you want to get gen 3 events today you should use to pomeg berry glitch or using a savefile online that has the events unlocked
I remember 10/11 year old me walking around thinking Pokémon was over, then I walked past the electronic section in Walmart and saw the box Art for Ruby and Sapphire in the Coming Soon section and it was a wrap
Leafgreen was my first Pokemon game and I had NO IDEA that the starter determines which legendary dog/sabrecat shows up Also, the core appeal of the Gamecube games to be about mainline connectivity just sounds fucked up and wrong to me. To be fair, I had no idea that they weren't part of the main series until a few years after I got my first internet connection, 6 years after playing them.(Neither was I exposed to this playstyle of caring about actually catching them all until RUclips) They were such unbelievably amazing games to me back then, despite also having other consoles and a PC I also got super lucky living in Germany, so I got to experience Pokemon Day, where a single McDonald's 200km away from me held a Pokemon meetup event every year between 2009 and 2014. That's about all the events we got, but it was the first time I got to try out the wireless functionality of my DS and GBA(Thankfully, I wasn't the only one who took their Emerald there)
....I understand your frustrations relating to catching every Pokemon, but I fail to see why the Pokemon anime and Adventures manga are specifically brought up for Gen 3. It's not like those were new things. Those started just after Gen 1 was released, and predate Red and Blue's release in either NA or Europe. And there's no Pokemon rewards for watching the anime or reading the manga, is there?
Nope, he brought up a whole bunch of "problems" that evidently are not at all problems with the gen 3 games, for some reason he decided the tone for this vid had to be negative or something...
@@arthurkernkamp5062 I'm not detracting from his personal experience, I'm just...confused. He's not wrong in pointing out the ways that the Pokemon Company shifted focus away from the games in favor of the overall brand, and it was formed after the release of Gold and Silver....but those two things in particular didn't make sense to bring up. And he does have a point about how Pokemon operates basically purely on massive inertia and does a lot of things just for the sake of it.
You are right, it is not presented well, and some examples I used were not specific to Gen 3. The goal was to evoke the feeling that Gen 1 felt like everything revolved around Red & Blue, whereas Gen 3 felt like it was going through the motions and not relying on the core games as much anymore. For instance, I show the cartridges of both Pokémon Pinball games, as it shows the Gen 1 game being a genuine attempt at bringing something new to the table with the rumbling cartridge, while Gen 3 is a straightforward sequel without the rumbling feature and just new Pokémon. Admittedly, it is a very clunky and lacking way to present this for sure, and I am not super pleased with it as well. I'll do better next time!
This was a great video and your insight was super informative! As someone growing up in the states I always felt salty at gamefreak and envious of Japanese fans so it was curious to see other regions had it even worse than I did. Between that and the state of their two European inspired gens (sword\shield + scarlet\violet) on release if I didn't know any better I'd say gamefreak 's main goal is to give the finger to European fans i swear lmao
Colosseum was a really fun game. A more teenage edgelord vibe than the mainline games, you played as either a reformed villain working to atone for your past sins, or someone who was working undercover and had to bail on it to fight them more outright (I don't know if they ever clarified this or if it was up to you to fill in the blanks). The game was exclusively double battles, and you start with both Espeon and Umbreon at level 20-something, feeling like you have a jump start to the game. Plus it was the first 3D Pokemon game, which made the game feel more alive. Only downsides were that if you wanted to trade any Pokemon you caught, you had to purify them first. And you couldn't catch wild Pokemon, you could only "snag" shadow Pokemon from the villains of the game, and there were very few available in comparison to a mainline game. As the budget option for trading, they had the Game Boy Player was $50. I already had a GameCube for playing other games, and a second GBA would have cost $100. Plus if you wanted to play GB games on the TV (larger and no batteries required) you could do so. I don't remember why but i never got/asked for XD.
"Simply enjoying a video game was not enough anymore." I agree Gen 3 changed pokemon, but that definitely wasnt how. I was a kid during Gen 1. The whole reason it was such a big deal was because it was so much more tha a game. That's been consistent since the franchise came to the US.
I am from a country called algeria, I was a very big fan of pokemon when I was a kid and although there were things a lot more annoying than this(cough cough civil war) I remember when it finally clicked for me. It was in the early 20s and I remember one of my rich friends who got to fly all the way to france and attend an event and get a mythical. I realized the genius of the version exclusives, basically my parents only had to buy a single version for me to be plenty content giving it quite the appeal, but my rich friend could pester his parents for all sorts of extra things. Essentially making for a primitive version of dlc. Jokes on him is, when getting legitimate version of pokemon got more difficult, pirating the games with every cheat under the sun was the goto for most kids.
Not playing gen 3 because you can't catch them all is nonsensical. As a kid with no access to the internet or a strategy guide kept me playing gen 3 just to find the secrets. I had no idea there were events to give you legendary and mythical Pokemon. Seeing each game or each pair of games in a vacuum they are fantastic you really need to nitpick the can't catch em all for mons you are never gonna use anyway.
It is not so much about the Mythical or Legendaries themselves, but the idea that before you do anything, you know you won't be able to access all the content in the game. Which is very sad considering it has nothing to do with the core game, which is really good by the way! Why buy a game I know will require me to buy several consoles if I want to see everything, when I can stick to my PS2 and have a fulfilling and complete experience in a single game? At least that was my thought process back then.
As a kid that had no idea what was going on outside of the game with events & needing GameCube games to get certain Pokémon gen 3 was very fun & I was very immersed in gen 3 just like I was with the original
To be fair, without the internet as a kid, when gen 3 released all you knew was just that pokemon game and it was by far the best pokemon games at that time reguardless of features they removed. Because like you stated, THE TARGET AUDIENCE IS CHILDREN, and I cannot recall a single kid EVER complaining about the reasons you brought up outside of "where is charmander at?" Followed by searching for it until you forgot because there is so much more to do in the game compared to gens 1 and 2
Subscribed. I used to keep doing Living Dex in Gen 3 on mobile with emulators, having to restart FR/LG each time just for a legendary beast was a grind.
Lyra your content is very good I look forward to the next videos. And I understand how difficult it is not to catch Pokemon from events, here in Brazil these events have never been held so the only way to acquire these Pokemon was by trading online or using cheats.
Thank you very much for the kind words! I hope you enjoy the upcoming content as well :') Bummer for you in Brazil :'( From what I know, Nintendo completely gave up on Brazil and buying consoles and games is so expensive there!
I agree 100% with your opinion on the lowkey predatory nature of some kids games. It sounds dramatic when you write it out but I remember being a kid in a country where there were no events, Pokémon wasn't popular and just wanting to do anything I could to play the next games and get everything new in Pokémon and now I'm just at a point where idk if its worth it or not sometimes. I try to play emulators of the old games now and really I think hard before I buy those 60 dollar switch games that don't have much replay value.😅😅 I'd say the lesson here is making smart consumer choices not entirely based on nostalgia, for me at least. I mean that's all I really can do.
In fact, the main reason for the dex in Gen 3 beeing so split and difficult to complete was the way pokémon company found to fight the rental game policy of the US that was illegal in japan, they made it so u will need to have 7 games and compete all of the runs, that's why in the Kanto remakes I can only trade after the post game for example
oh god.. seeing you say all the games and accessories needed.. then looking down at my collection and seeing i have them all makes me feel like a sucker.. game freak got me good.. tbf tho.. ive had them all forever and XD is by far even to this day one of my all time favorite pokemon games.
Yeah, the event Pokémon thing has always been annoying I'm sure they won't make you go to specific stores in future generations, and the idea of location-specific events will seem laughable by the time we get to the Switch games. Right...?
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The Gen 3 Living Pokédex journey has now started! ruclips.net/video/qkcSx9t0kcE/видео.html
I just wanna preface by saying that I'm also doing a Gen 3 living dex, and I wanted to share a bunch of advice with you:
1. Colosseum has a really easy bug where you can essentially reuse the same pokeballs infinitely, and you might wanna exploit tf out of it to complete that game. Pretty much all you have to do is, with at least two separate types of PokeBalls in your inventory, use the PokeBall you want with the first Pokemon, and then swap it's position in the bag with the second pokemon and do literally anything else.
2. You don't need all 7 games to get a Gen 3 dex, you only need Emerald, Colosseum, XD, and LeafGreen (not FireRed, because for some weird reason, there's no other legit way to get the Slowpoke line).
3. Pokemon Box can allow you to easily "trade" massive amounts of Pokemon simultaneously between the GBA games, as well as act as a single hub for organizing all of your mons. You still have to painstakingly do 6 by 6 trades if you wanna get the mons out of the spinoffs however.
4. Take advantage of Goppier's recent reverse engineering of the gen 3 event cartridges to get all of the event items, now including Wishmaker Jirachi and SAA Celebi, completely bypassing the need for the colosseum bonus discs as well as Ruby or Sapphire to claim the US Jirachi. Although if you want to use this approach, you need a GBA flashcart and two GBA Wireless Adapters (ruclips.net/video/UZpdaHS9l2g/видео.html) (the link for the distro ROMs for Jirachi and Celebi can be found in Goppier's first community post)
How did you get the gen 2 starters since they are emerald exclusive for completing dex?
@@TacoThrash3r breeding the gen 2 starters from colosseum of course.
The real question is how did you enjoy collesseum?!
Girafarig => Jeffery, it just works my guy.
There is a glitch in emerald using the pomegranate berry where you can get the events without using any additional hardware. Very cool and I would argue legit to still get these pokemon
Really? That's cool because it sucks events like these are lost to time because they were a limited time only.
The sheer brain juice required to figure out which manipulations you need to do to get what you want, though, is incredibly difficult to learn
Pomeg Berry would work definitely, though I believe it’s patched in some Emerald versions? Unsure. Either way, it’s the best option imo because it wouldn’t need to cheat, just glitch.
@@mandalorianhunter1 you can do the glitch to unlock the event. Some bad eggs will teleport you to places that have legendaries (like Southern or Birth Island) instead of directly giving you the Pokémon. Shiny hunters do that
@@trowwzers5057 thanks
Thank you so much for talking about the sentiment of "living in the wrong side of the world" in regards to Pokemon. Just reading about all the missing content, like the old man's house in Mossdeep, or the e-Reader berries, as well as the Old Sea Map, made me feel bad for something I had no control over, just like you mentioned. And it's important to share that sentiment with most people, who probably never understood how huge of a problem splintering Gen 3 was when it first came out.
I'm from India and Nintendo had never sold consoles in India. So I emulate all the Pokemon games as close to the original experience as possible. (No emulator perks or speed-ups). Fortunately, if your consider it legit, you can connect all the games upto gen 5 on your phone alone! (Except the jump from gen 2 to 3 of course). But I've played all the games upto gen 5 as legitimately as possible. So if you are also from the "wrong side of the world", you can find plenty of extensive guides online.
I am glad I was able to explain how you felt. The fact that before you even put the game in the console, you know you won't be allowed to access the content and feel like a persona non grata sours the experience in a way that is difficult to explain.
And it sucks, because the games themselves are fantastic!
Yeah, until gen 4 introduced the wireless mystery gifts I never got a single event Pokemon. Even being in the US, I live in a dead zone of not being anywhere near where gen 3 Pokemon events were distributed, and even if I did live close enough to one I would have still been at the mercy of my parents being able and willing to take me.
Same, and then now niantic have capitalised on the whole living on the wrong side of the world with pokemon go
@@sampanna6983 that's so strange, I spent most of my summers in India growing up, and, at least in Delhi, you could get all the Nintendo games and consoles. And I'm not talking about the hella fake consoles that you could get(Honestly those were kinda the best though pre-installed with all the games in existence!), This was the 90's though so most likely illegally smuggled into the country as many things were after the licence raj fell.
As a heads up, there's a glitch in Fire Red/Leaf Green where if the roaming legendary uses Roar, it will disappear forever. You'll need to keep that in mind if that's your target for getting them.
Thank you for the tip! I have some secret plans for the FireRed / LeafGreen Legendary Beast through... ;')
@@Lyra Also a glitch/bug where they have garbage stats because their individual stat values are set really low for some reason. No way to get around this, unfortunately.
@@Lyra your hassles with roar in silver doesn’t give me hope for FireRed LeafGreen
I grew up with Gen 3 Pokémon and never felt that problems because I somehow never wanted to "catch them all". But I have to say in retrospective, it is a shame that they did not include Deoxys in Emerald from the beginning. So having a full post-game episode on Deoxys in ORAS was really heartwarming for me, as somehow the circle was closed.
Also, Colosseum and XD are awesome. I play one them once a year, the double battle only system makes it so much fun.
Hello from a tiny island across the atlantic. I 100% felt your pain with 3rd Gen. And your optimistic take on attempting to complete the living dex many years later brought a smile to my face. I wish you the best of luck on your journey! And you've also got yourself a new subscriber. Cheers!
Newfie here. I get the feeling we had the same experience ~
Bro, same here. You don't happen to be from Cape Verde, do you?
@@senakumo1149I'm from quite a bit further up, in the Caribbean. But I've heard from my mom who has met Cape Verdian friends how similar our culture is. I hope to one day be able to visit, seems like a lovely place!
Also regarding Colosseum and XD: you get Ho-oH in colosseum for completing not just the entire story mode - including capturing *every single pokemon in that game - but the entire battle mode as well. And Lugia in XD after completing the entire story mode. So, i think it'ss probably worth trying to capture as many of the pokemon in those games as possible because you will have to complete the game anyway.
Not to mention you have to purify shadow lugia, which is a task in itself
@@Brogie_21 I heard about that and damn it's crazy
@@mandalorianhunter1 I had the game but never did it myself. Shadow lugia was too cool on its own anyway 🔥
@@Brogie_21 I agree I wish it released with it's stats changed with Shadow Lugia being a wall breaker then a wall.
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Easy to do if you know what you're doing
Trade all pokemon with normal, no duel type, as all 4 pokemon, it gives max flows, that is 36 normal(zigzagoon/ratatata being very good), since you want
I couldn't possibly relate more to all the points you made in this video. I played only ruby as a teenager and I couldn't possibly afford to buy x7 games plus an extra console back then, let alone travel to different countries just to get exclusive-event Pokémon. And that really felt disappointing and unfair at the time (and still now because event won't occur anymore).
Really exited to see your living dex challange, keep up the good work Lyra!
>(and still now because event won't occur anymore).
I think all event carts have been dumped now so you can throw the rom on a flashcart and trade the pokemon across
Thank you for the kind words! I am super excited for the Living Dex challenge as well!
I didn't want to talk too much about money in the video, but I completely understand how you must've felt back then. There is no way I would not have felt guilty asking my parents for a game knowing I would not even get the full experience with a single version anyway. Disappointing and unfair sums it up pretty well.
Just make sure you use Colosseum for the Johto starters. While you can get every Gen 2 starter in both Colosseum and XD, Colosseum has one available at the start of the game and the rest available later on, while in XD, you have to do the entire Mt. Battle challenge without switching your team for just one of them. Mt. Battle's challenge is 100 consecutive fights, so it's worth knowing which is faster to save your sanity.
Sanity is the hardest thing to keep while doing a Living Pokédex, so thank you for helping me preserve it xD
I was a noob kid at the time, and only made it to like the 90s in Mt. Battle. My spirit was destroyed. I got the GBA-Gamecube cable and everything. Game was borrowed too so I ran out of time to get the pokemon I needed.
@Lyra made a website it might be easier to get 2 version of emerald. 1 for your main and 2nd for multiple play throughs
Pokemon XD is genuinely one of the best games I've ever played. Maybe I have my nostalgia glasses on, but it was a really good deviation from the traditional formula and had tons of its own unique heart and soul.
I played xD and colosseum and Mann they are mad pearls of the Nintendo even being spin offs
heartgold and soulsilver?
@@sksthrowaway2270 Ohh, you!
Yes, xd was so fun
As someone who lives in south america, I can completely relate to not having any gaming related events in your country.
Thankfully piracy is wide spread here and some stores will just sell hacked versions of the game (or hack it for you).
Trying to figure out what they were doing got me into game modding.
Así es, los que vivimos en la región sabemos que tener Pokemon de eventos era básicamente imposible en esos tiempos y comprarse todas esas versiones de Pokemon para obtenerlos a todos legítimamente era también muy difícil por el tema económico
@@Hawtep mhm.
Honestamente, cuando me enteré de lo que era la piratería, me sentí mal por llevar toda la vida haciéndolo, luego vi como actúan las empresas y se me pasó
Same here as a person from Southeast Europe :) i got into game modding and console hacking as well
Even here in the US, most of us just used an action replay to get event Pokémon. I live very close to DC, so I was able to get some event Pokémon legitimately, at least by the time of gen 4, but even then, it was just so much more convenient to hack them in and unless you're a VGC player, nobody cares if they're hacked.
Lyra content hype
Lyra made a video!
Hype!
Fanboy cringe
@@lukemorgan6166 You’re fun at party’s aren’t you
As an Australian who for gaming purposes is basically European (although there's some weird times we don't get some games even Europe does!), thank you for telling everyone about how awful events were and how bad it is some games just never came out here and there's no readily accessible, legal way to play some of them.
Seconded. I remember reading my strategy guides (which I still own) and how they talked about event Pokémon - only to read the fine print and see they're for North America only. Such a bummer.
As an Australian?
My guy I'm Portuguese, we're in the same time zone as England and we NEVER got opening events on time because the games came out here super late and if we got the latter ones we were lucky because we don't have distribution centers here... I would have to travel 4-5h to a Spanish Toys R Us to get them...
I NEVER saw a single copy of Pokémon Colosseum in my life, let alone a link cable... our internet providers didn't even allow us to connect our DS to the internet unless we specifically asked for it on the phone...
Shit was just as bad in most of Europe unfortunately ;-;
I’m Brazilian, the cost of Official Nintendo products are a kidney here! Hahaha
@@veganoMED mn eu só conheci pokemon por emulador msm KKKKKKKK os cara falando sobre ganhar console da nintendo em aniversário
The region lock has always been unfair as fuck. It seems that Nintendo doesn't even know that Brazil exists.
Colosseum removes the need to replay the Gen 1 remakes and Emerald, since you'll gain access to all of the Johto starters and Legendary Beasts through it alone.
Colosseum and XD are really fun games! Unique experiences in the series that are worth a play.
There are a good amount still missing. Most notably slowpoke who’s ONLY leaf green
@@tabuukiller13 oh I don't mean not playing FRLG at all, more so no need to restart after one playthrough for another legendary beast
@@meltysap1679 sadly you have to restart gen 1 remakes 3 times for the gen 1 starters tho :( iam doing that right now
@@marchie1704: That's easy though. Play one of FR/LG to completion and to unlock trading with Hoenn. Start the second game, play just long enough to catch a second Pokémon so you can trade your starter to the first game. Restart the second game picking the third starter, then play it all the way up to Cinnabar Island to get all version exclusives as well as the second Hitmon and Fossil.
"Yeah just get the Johto starters in Colosseum"
*femurbreaker.mp3*
Colosseum and gale of darkness actually do stand on their own, I highly recommend trying them
agree... this guy is delusional and salty because his unique play style isn't supported in the way he wants it...
I do hate when people say they don't if they haven't played them at all much less at the time they came out.
@@WolfofnoStreetthis shows clearly that you haven't finished the video lol
Him calling coliseum a spin off caused me pain, one of the best pokemon games period. Highly recommend people play it
@@BattleTheoryit IS a spin off. The fact it’s better than many mainline games is irrelevant. Like how professional just means you get paid and amateur just means you don’t, Spin off has no negative connotations except from misuse
Something often overlooked is that, midway through the generation, there was a massive shakeup in the way the series was ran in the West. Notably, The Pokemon Company took advantage of the lull in the series to essentially consolidate and centralize their control over things.
Wizards of the Coast lost control of the Trading Card Game to them after Skyridge(leading to Jamboree being cancelled mid production), merch was brought in house and taken away from other companies like Kellogg or BBs, and the anime was taken away from 4kids and had the entire original voice cast fired suddenly after Season 6. This was very controversial at the time, and rightly so(It lead to a massive disconnect in the cards, hurt merch sales for a bit, and the original voice cast in English got screwed over), but it probably made things smoother down the line.
Wish the breakup of the older companies never happened. It was the best before that.
4Kids didn't lose the rights until near the end of Sinnoh
Gen 3 was a very experimental era, which doesn't change how money grabby they were but I'd say Nintendo as a whole was experimenting with a lot more concepts and ideas then which is why there was quite a few gamecube to gameboy connectivity games. Pokemon was just the easiest to slap these concepts onto like the E Reader for example
Indeed! Nintendo and Game Freak were clearly experimenting! A lot of the Gen 3 side content feels very much like they threw everything at the wall and saw what stuck. I mentioned the negatives in the video, but it is still good that they were trying new things in the first place :')
I never cared about Pokémon as a kid, but in my teens I started to. And somehow Gen3 hit me like a truck.
Both the remakes and RSE looked much more awesome than the 2 previous gens.
I played them later in retrospect but I always liked the Gen3 pokémon the most and the games feel so clean to play
I was there from the begining but I still agree that gen 3 is the peak in some ways.
You no longer had any hardware limitations (for this type of game) so they feel snappy and hold up visually even today.
It's one of the reasons we still get flooded with great gen 3 romhacks to this day.
Oh hell yeah. Just like the person above me I've been playing since RBY and Gen 3 was when Gamefreak really stepped things up a notch.
My first game was fire red so I have gen 3 bias. Next would have to be gen 2.
@@Alice..M gen 2 is probably the most influential in the series. It's broken af but still a lot of fun.
@@RisingRevengeance I loved all the gen 2 pokemon too! It's definitely broken tho haha
Gen 3 felt like it lasted forever, but in a good way. So many good games in just a few years made it feel so long. Now it seems like I blink and there's another generation
It did last much longer than other generations. I was in 2nd grade when ruby and sapphire came out and I was in 6th grade by the time diamond and pearl came out. I can’t even think of another generation that lasted that long.
10:20 Deoxys being promoted by IRL space exploration actually is a pretty clever and cool idea IMO
I loved your content, as I live in Brazil I also didn't have the pleasure of experiencing a real life pokemon event, I always loved the idea of completing the living dex and seeing you dedicate yourself, and creating a website to help others is something very cool and brings a lot of interaction to your community, congratulations on the well done and fun content
As a fellow European who was around back in the gen 3 era, I felt all your pain.
i think events are cute in theory (i treasure the memories of getting my manaphy at toys r us) but get real grating real fast. I cant be the only one who was extremely annoyed that cresselia was available without events while darkrai the inifinityly cooler one is locked behind events
you can glitch it in diamond and pearl, its quite easy to do and possible with the arceus and shaymin events too. i know that is not the point but if you r attached to your gen 4 games like me its worth doing
Nah Cresselia > Darkrai imo. Nothing beats finishing Pearl for the first time, learning about Cresselia when you casually wanted to go to Iron Island to train, suddenly landing on her Island, talking to her and just seeing her shiny sprite box pop up before she leaves. And yeah, I finally got her the same day, with my masterball and she was indeed shiny. Nothing beats Cresselia
I hate that I’ve already permanently missed out on the BDSP events. I wish they would have them become permanently available after the next generation comes, either having a permanently available code like Magearna in Gen 7 or having an NPC give it to you like in Crystal VC
It sucked for someone like me, especially just being young. Grew up in Wales and me and my friend adored Pokemon to a point that looking back at it, my autism diagnosis was not surprising.
However, being in Wales, being kids and just not being particularly wealthy, catching ALL the Pokemon was impossible for us. We tried, but we missed events, we didn’t even know about things like the mythical Pokemon you could get in game at the Pokecenter and as more games came out, it was harder and harder to keep up. (Especially since more spinoffs were needed) Furthest I ever got was Pokemon Yellow, only game I finished the Pokedex because it was thankfully just Yellow to worry about.
I love Pokemon but I’d like if it was more accessible and less cash grabby. Only gotten worse as I’ve gotten older.
Well most events are available through certain DNS servers that you can connect your DSI/3DS which will allow you to obtain the Pokemon/event item.
It is legal? Yeah, and who cares? Nintendo was the one who shut down the servers, people just found ways to make their own. The DS has been discontinued for several years. Nobody's gonna break down your door because you got an event Pokemon lol.
_don't use it in competitive tournaments unless you actually got it through a legit event_
The real reason for the lack of compatibility between gernations 2 and 3, at lest partially, was actually down the new GBA Link cable being wired differently than the Game Boy one. A Game Boy Advance in GBA mode couldn't communicate with a Game Boy Color or GBA in GBC mode nor the GameCube via the GC to GBA cable with a Game Boy Color cartridge inserted. Also getting Ho-oh in Colosseum Gives you access to nearly all the extra Pokemon added into emerald's postgame anyways.
It was likely beyond what they were capable of back then, both skill and time-wise, but nowadays, it is possible. Look up "How I Made the Impossible Trade Between GEN2 and GEN3" if you want to see.
Not to mention the ev system. In gen 2 you can max every stat with the evs, something that was capped to 510 in gen 3 and the iv being upto 31 instead of just 15z
@@marksantiago9841 I'm pretty sure it's actually slightly higher than 510 EVs. There just aren't enough for the last few to increase a stat. But stat EXP goes up to 35,535 per stat, so there's likely some divisible number you can use to calculate the other. As for DVs, they're 0 to 15 whereas IVs are 0 to 31. Just halve/double it and you're good there.
@@ladyakkyn actually it is 65535, per stat.
@@marksantiago9841 I accidentally typed a 3 instead of a 6, I guess. But I know it's per stat.
When I was a kid playing Gen 1, 2 & 3 I had no idea about events. I saw the pages on Serebii of the Lugia, Ho-oh, Jirachi & Deoxys events but I had no idea how they worked as I was 9 years old.
Compare that to my experience when I was a year younger playing Pokémon Gold & finding Lugia at the bottom of the Whirl Islands when it wasn’t even the box legendary. Absolutely shocked me & I loved it.
"I speak english because of no localization of my favorite media" is probably the number 1 reason every 20-30 year old European now knows english so well
So true. It is a good way to turn a negative into a positive, though. Once you learn to speak English properly, the amount of media you can enjoy increases exponentially :'D
@@Lyra Oh im definetely happy to admit learning english just to enjoy more games has been the best decision of my life and has shaped the way i enjoy media in every way. Maybe they had that in mind all along :P
Lyra I always get so excited when I see you upload a new video. Seems like we're all in for the long haul with Gen 3 but it should be very entertaining to see you pull this off.
Gen 3 was an incredible jump from 2º gen. For me, who didn´t even try to catch them all cause seemed impossible, the change on the plot, the map, the pokemon themselves, even the music... Its my favourite generation, because all the memories it brings to me. Looking at it now, the lack of retrocompatibility and all the things mentioned on the video makes it painful for completing the pokédex, but those games are stuck in our hearts :')
Can't wait to see you make it through all the games eventually. My guess is at least double the time sink since the previous generation.
By Gen 5 you need previous games to do it. To get a living dex in BW1, you need one of RSE, one of HGSS, Platinum, and both BW games. If you were doing BW2, you could swap RSE for the other half of HGSS, but you'd need both Black and White 2 to do that (you can get all three Hoenn legends if you have both HG and SS, and the Regis and Latis are covered by BW2)
Immediate edit: Now that I think about it, you'd need RSE in order to do a Gen 4 living dex, as the event that let you get the Regi trio is long-gone, so youd need the Pal Park there too.
@@yep9462 you'd actually NEED BW2 for the first games as well, because Zorua(? I think you might be able to get N's Zorua, but my memory's a bit foggy on that one) and Zoroark can't be obtained outside of events in BW, only BW2
what’s a time SINK??? never heard of that pokemon before….
@@lambybunny7173 You're right actually, can't believe I forgot about that with how much I've played BW1 and BW2 over the years. There's no way to legitimately obtain Zorua in bw1 save for trading it over from BW2
I'd rather not think about it... but yeah, my estimate is even more pessimistic, because of the GameCube games alone D':
Emerald and Sapphire were my first Pokemon games. Emerald I had at my mom’s and Sapphire at my dad’s (divorced parents, yes). I also got Firered at dad’s place later on. I didn’t have many friends and was too shy to ask parents of i could trade pokemon with friends or ask the friends themselves (until I got Pokemon Pearl years later). So I completed as many things in gen 3 as I could on one GBA all alone. Then reset them and do it again. That was pretty much a lot of my childhood in early grade school.
Dude same
Not to sound rude, but isn't the whole point of portable games that they're, you know, portable? I mean, you didn't have two separate GBAs for each parent's place, but rather one GBA that you brought with you, right? So it seems strange to me that the little game cartridges would be "region-locked" to one specific parent's house.
Ruby & sapphire were my first games too. The only time i got both versions
Emerald is the greatest Pokémon game ever made
I was lucky to be a japanese actually completed emerald dex, I have every gen 3 game needed for it. It feels nostalgic hearing its theme, spin off colosseum and XD is actually pretty good, its hard for casual as some trainers actually have tactics and gimmicks that could rekt newer people. Goodluck on your journey
Thank you for the tireless effort you put into your website, as someone who’s trying to follow in your footsteps it will prove essential. You have my respect and condolences for doing the Gen 3 living Dex, I’m having to take a break from it myself because I burnt myself out trying to complete it. Good luck with your Dex, I’m anxious to see the fruits of your labor!
As a Latin American, I feel you not getting any event and playing everything in English without understanding a thing lmao
Happened a lot!
I dunno if it's 100% confirmed but i'm pretty sure there wasn't any event in chile during the gba era and that was so lame
i think the best example of a tie in with another game was how in mario kart wii you'd unlock Rosalina as a playable character if you had mario galaxy save data on your console
you could still unlock her without having mario galaxy, it was just a nice little tie in that skipped having to complete the conditions to unlock Rosalina normally
I started playing Pokemon in Gen 3, so the idea of actually finishing a Pokedex always seemed like a pipe dream. I do have a very fond memory of running into a kid with a game shark at a summer program and frantically trying to catch all the event Pokemon in a single recess. I wonder if all of the event exclusivity made those sort of cheat engines more popular around this time.
Love the thoughts and the video!!
This also highlights how difficult it was to have rare Pokemon and legendaries back in the day; part of why Pokemon was so addictive and rewarding back then
Few people know this, but Ho-oh and Lugia are mythical pokemon in Gen 3. Professors will congratulate you for filling the national dex even if you don't have these two. Although, if you really want the super-perfect living dex then go for it, I just wouldn't mind it if you skipped them altogether. It's a similar situation with Phione and Manaphy in gen 4, even though you're able to get them from pokemon ranger.
Ever since watching Tama Hero's videos on gen 3 it's like I know something about a key generation of the franchise that many don't, because she had stuff in those videos that I didn't see anywhere else before and clearly almost no one knows about that or people wouldn't be talking about aspects of gen 3 or the remakes in general the way they do. I can't recommend them enough, her videos have incredible stuff that explain a lot of stuff of how gen 3 was made and it changes your perspective entirely about it and why Pokémon made the changes it made over the years and into the DS era. It's extremely interesting. The fact that they made it mandatory to complete the game in the Kanto remakes to trade away mons to other games to complete the Hoenn dex just to circumvent the problem of people renting games for a weekend and completing their dexes that way without buying a cartridge, worsening everyone's experience with the game just so they wouldn't lose money because of rentals is so...
My issue with Tama's video is that it's conjecture, and while could still be true as highlighted with how rentals are IMO bizzarely banned in Japan, in another angle could be seen as a way to preserve the original feel somewhat of RBY, but still having access to the rest of Gen 3 content as post-game.
@@zjzr08 I'd definitely have to agree that that idea doesn't make sense. Game Freak always used the idea of needing badges to make high level Pokemon obey you, so it really just seems like preserving the original feel of the games as well as another factor to prevent the player from getting non-Dex mons and trading with Ruby and Sapphire to be able to blitz through the games, especially since Colosseum came before FRLG and didn't have badges or an obedience mechanic. Ruby and Sapphire released so long before the rest that it does make SOME kind of sense for Game Freak to limit trading in order to prevent that from happening.
Not to mention that if people can complete their dex in a weekend just from renting the games... what was stopping them from beating the game? Mewtwo is a post-game Mon, exclusive to FRLG. Several different Mons are late-game, such as the fossils. What's the idea there, that the player got a 100% Kanto dex (at least for their Kanto version) but the extra hour and a half to unlock Hoenn trading is the one thing keeping them from trading it all away to another game? What would stop them from trading it to a different Kanto game, then? And sure, this other Kanto game could also be used to power level their team, but it's a lot less likely to happen when the Kanto games released at the same time, but Ruby and Sapphire had released like two years prior to that.
Speaking as someone who started with Pokemon Yellow and then went on to play every game up to Black/White 2, let me say this: I did not enjoy any game more than I did Pokemon Emerald. Sinnoh was fun, Unova wowed kid me with 3D stuff, Kanto gave me the original experience that led me to everything else and Johto excited me even further, but something about Hoenn clicks like no other gen does.
I didn't care that there were some mons locked behind crazy requirements and other games - I was too busy exploring the world and collecting all the new gen 3 mons that I could get my hands on. If someone else got one of those crazy hard mons to get, that was UNIQUE for them as a kid - not something expected at all.
Honestly, the idea of feeling forced into buying 7 games and 2 consoles just to fulfill some arbitrary goal feels so alien to how kid me viewed Pokemon I don't even know how to respond. I never visited any events, never bought any of the side games, and Emerald was one of the best Pokemon experiences I've ever had. The double battles, natures, the extensive postgame with the Battle Frontier and grinding to get highly trained versions of my favorite mons to tear down the Frontier Brains - so much more fun than anything Gen 1 or 2 offered to me.
I don't care if catching every single mon in Emerald is ridiculous, and maybe you shouldn't base your entire enjoyment of a game off such a small part of the actual game. It might be a healthier way of viewing the region in general.
Now I don't deny that what game freak/ the pokemon company is attempting to do is scummy, releasing 2-3 different versions of the same game and then locking goodies behind entire other games to try to bait kids into playing them, but in my opinion they failed to convey this to most kids.
They failed in general to attract me or anyone I knew to buy all their other stuff for the sole purpose of getting a few more mons in the main game. They didn't make their tie-ins between games strong enough to force this sort of relationship you're describing, and I'm glad they didn't because that would be a major pain in the ass. GameFreak/The Pokemon Company are scummy af (just look at what they did to the latest games), but that doesn't mean they succeeded at forcing this cinematic universe on consumers.
The issue I had as a kid was not necessarily having to buy all the games and consoles, but knowing before I even started playing that I would be missing SOMETHING. In the grand scheme of things, that something wasn't that big a deal indeed, but it tempered and soured my excitement. Why buy an incomplete game when I know of a lot of complete ones out of the box?
Having started Emerald not too long ago, I absolutely agree with you: Emerald is fantastic! I cannot wait to spend hours playing it through and through, exploring the world and seeing all the game has to offer! I am having such a blast so far :'D
I've really been enjoying your channel and the progress you've made. At the start of Covid in 2020, I decided to start the journey of a Gen 3 Living Dex. It took months and I had a chart similar to your website. Excited to see your path through!
That Mew event at Toys R Us is bringing up some bad memories for me. It was for FR/LG only, but they didn't mention that anywhere so I brought my Emerald and ended up leaving with nothing after spending like an hour in line. This is the only event I ever went to that didn't use Mystery Gift.
I'm really looking forward to you doing this. Unlike gen 2, I won't be following along doing it myself but I'm super excited to watch you! Colosseum and XD are kinda divisive among fans but it's one of my favorites so I hope you enjoy! My friend is actually currently working on a gen 3 living national dex because of your videos so we're both gonna be following along
I see a few comments but I'll reiterate here, Colosseum locks getting Ho-oh until you complete not only the game, but the additional battle mode, as well as capturing and purifying all the shadow Pokemon. So maybe keep that in mind before going catch crazy for things in Emerald and Leaf Green. No point in wasting time if you're going to have to do it again as part of a mandatory section. And getting Lugia in XD isn't as involved, but you need to do a lot. You will need to catch and purify 36 different Shadow Pokemon before you can even get a chance. And.. well maybe it is a lot. Without getting too into the details, just know you're better off capturing and purifying every Shadow Pokemon as you go in both games, makes it a lot easier.
Also I am glad you're playing through them, they are great and I feel more people should experience those two games. Pretty stoked to see how you like them.
I am really happy you keep watching and enjoying the videos! Good luck to you friend on their Living Dex! And yeah, I am super excited to play the GameCube games as well :')
For all the events there is a modified Aurora Ticket distribution ROM that unlocks all events in FRLG and Emerald. It was made by a guy with the channel Goppier and UndeadxReality. It is a possibility if you want to have those events in a way that doesn't involve glitches or gameshark and if I am not wrong even the Old Sea Map for Emerald on non-japanese versions is available
Goppier is an awesome channel
It's thanks to their work that I was able to finish a living gen3 dex. I'm glad those guys did this.
It is one of the ways I am strongly considering using. Now I know where to go. Thank you for the advice!
@@Lyra I would also use save states on emerald upon Gen2 starter selection or making a Living Hoenn Dex, transferring that to P.Box:R/S and then "stamping" a full dex onto Emerald every time Emerald becomes eligible.
@@Lyra Additionally you dont have to play all 7 (8 EU) games to finish the national dex, afaik someone looked up the best way of getting them all and you only need to play 3 (4 EU) games apparently, one of it being Leaf Green.
12:02 boy, if you're comlpaining about being european and loving video games, just take a look in what it is to be Brazilian and liking videos games. it is 5 times harder...
1. The spin offs were really good
2. The event pokemon are ideally made that much more special by their rarity
3. The game was really amazing in all aspects
4. If one actually went to these events, he or she will live to tell about it forever
5. Gameshark
Also gen 3 had some of the coolest designs and some of my favorite intros in the anime.
"Unbeatable" is still one of the best intros out there.
I grew up a bit with the gen 1 remakes then the gen 3 core games. It was still a great time
I also started with a gen 1 remake (Leafgreen) then played Sapphire as my second game! And I also agree about the designs.
@@psuedonym9999 Oh I actually started with Gen 2 Gold.
I was actually around for Gen 1 but didn't get to play the games. When I was at daycare, a lot of the older kids had Gameboys that played Gen 1 and some guy would bring his 64 to let us play Stadium. We did watch the anime on tape sometimes and I went to see the first two movies. I'm not a die hard fan but I have nostalgia for it.
Man, for years I thought having multiple versions was necessary to incentivize trading, a core part of the series. Then I played Pokémon Legends Arceus and had to trade with my friend multiple times because he got luckier encounters.
I feel like it was for gen 1. then they realised it makes more money.
Damn I resonate so hard with the region lock bullshitery being an Indian. The only way to play any Nintendo games here is to either ask some family of yours living in a country where you can buy a Nintendo console and wait for them to come to India, or buy it smuggled illegally :/
Your point at 17:50 or so is precisely why I don't understand why people are only now getting mad about pokemon doing DLC to sell us pokemon they removed from the 'dex. They've always done this. It's just more obvious now.
After watching this, I don't feel so bad now for using gamesharks and action replay in order to obtain mons that are currently unaccesible. Because if GF doesn't care, neither should I.
It is sad that this is the exact feeling so many Pokémon fans seem to have. The people you would expect to care about Game Freak the most. And yet, it feels completely fair and deserved :'(
I know this is unrelated, but I think your intro explains why Scarlet & Violet have been feeling so much like Johto to me. While there are bigger elements in the game like the plot, raid battles, & the three challenges, the open world aspect of SV make the core of the game the same as it was for Gens 1-2: going around a big environment as we explore & catch pokémon. Everything else is just a bonus you can do at your own pace
Which is why it's so depressing to see the state it came out in.
It really could've been the best generation, if GameFreak were given more than 3 minutes to develop it
Too bad SV don't work. Frame rate is almost never at the max or near 30 even. Nothing to look at either and the new mons look like shit.
@Mewtwo_150 Yeah Nintendo is totally at fault here. Game Freak really should have been allowed to make a finished and polished game, but of course, Nintendo wants their big moneymaker series to keep releasing a new game every year now... :/
Thank you SO MUCH for making the website! I've been trying to complete an emerald national dex on and off for 2 years now, I love these games but they're a BITCH to complete haha. Great video as always, and excited to see the videos/streams.
Hey Lyra! Hope you enjoy Pokemon Colloseum and XD! I personally really enjoy those games; not having access to a full list of Pokemon means you can enjoy playing a story that is difficulty tuned to your available mons, and also, you don't have to feel like you're handicapping yourself by not using the striongest mons available- in Pokemon Colloseum, you'll use Skiploom, and you'll be thankful, haha!
Hey Stryker! I really hope I enjoy them too! You mention something I didn't think about actually :'O Limiting the amount of available Pokémon DOES indeed allow the developers to tailor the experience to the available Pokémon, and has the potential to make strategy and planning a lot more interesting!
Man, now I am even more excited to try the GameCube games out :'D
@@Lyra I'm so happy to hear you're excited! Colloseum has better atmosphere, but Gales of Darkness is a very polished game. I very much hope the games get you attached to your faithful rescued companions!
Thank you so much for talking about this. I also began playing on RBY and remember realizing I could not get all mons in RSE (I live in Brazil so no events here back then, also I never had a GameCube). This is the first time ever I see someone talking about this, thank you so much
As someone who started with Gen 3 (emerald) it will always have a special place in my hearth as I enjoyed it then and have kept enjoying it ever since. However even kid me was very bitter over the fact that event pokemon couldn't be obtained (the amount of times I pressed A on the white rock wishing for a Jirachi..) having now glitches to obtain these has completed my childhood dreams.
>has more content than gen 1
>doesn't cut any pokemon from the dex
>event exclusives have been a thing since gen 1
>gen 1 remakes include everything from gen 1 and new content
>less complete
?????
I really don't get that either. He had an incredibly pessimistic view on the fact there were more event pokemon than normal, which is fine, but to then say that removes from the games is total nonsense.
In fact he basically said making two altogether different games was somehow removing(?!) from the gen3 games. Totally incomprehensible, made it almost frustrating to watch this.
The Sevii island online crap like the union cave was pretty much half-assed and relied too much on a wonky multiplayer aspect. That’s my biggest gripe about FRLG where the postgame is genuinely barebones because of janky stuff like that
By comparison, Gen 6 games’ online features are easier to handle because of the more updated online system and GTS
I recalled watching your stream during the hunt for the last three Legendary Beasts, just a few days before another High School year started.
Honestly, I wouldn't have been surprised if you decided to stop at Generation 2, with how much there is to see, region locking, how many games you need to manage, and the general vibe changing.
But somehow, you're still here, continuing to go onward in spite of everything.
I commend you, and hope to see you soon once again.
I welcome the challenge! And judging from the response on the Gen 2 Living Dex conclusion, people seem to enjoy watching me struggle ;') Thank you for the encouragement, I hope you enjoy the Gen 3 content!
You have no idea what a masterpiece you missed out on by not playing the Pokémon Colosseum games. By far one of the greatest storytelling and gameplay in the Pokémon franchise. I pray to Arceus one day they will remake those games.
I don't disagree that your observations are accurate, however it sounds to me like you were maybe just too old at the time to enjoy gen 3 for what it was. I started playing Ruby and my bro played Saphire when I was like 9 or something, and the fact we couldn't technically complete our pokedexes was literally besides the point: we got totally lost in the games and played new save file after new save file just enjoying the plot and the new pokemon, and team building. Emerald also added so much, and the battle frontier was amazing. I didn't feel pressured to buy anything else at all, and just playes those games with all my heart.
I am glad that Sun and Moon finally set a new precedence for the Pokédex after around a decade of... this.
Sun and Moon were the first games to to get rid of the National Pokédex. Now this isn't like Sword and Shield which made Pokémon straight up unavailable through any means. It made any Pokémon outside of the regional Pokédex not count towards any completion. With Sun and Moon, all 300 Pokémon required to complete the Pokédex could be found in those 2 games, meaning at minimum, you just needed another friend with a copy to complete it.
Another reason I'm glad for this is because of the Shiny Charm. It was an item introduced in Black 2 and White 2 as a reward for completing the National Pokédex, and has remained the reward for it since. It effectively doubled the chance of finding Shiny Pokémon. But it just made the task more demoralizing to know that in B2W2 and Gen 6 locked such a valuable (to certain people) item behind such an arduous and unreasonable task.
Locking the Shiny Charm behind completing the National Pokémon is a really smart thing to do in my opinion. In a way, Shiny hunting is the next step for hardcore hunters, after completing the Pokédex.
"imagine not living in paris" - nintendo since the start of video game in france
actually its more
"imagine not living in paris" - everything since hundreds of years in france about literally anything , movies , music , food ,technology , government, anything
Lovely video, but the opening feels kind of inaccurate? The pokemon craze was HUGE for gen 1 and 2 if you were around. The “spinoffs, movies, and card games” you listed all existed for 1 and 2. We had several seasons of a tv show, 4 movies, and a tv special (mewtwo returns) all based on the first 2 gens. The movies were big theatrical releases too. We had the TCG, we had the manga, we had all sorts of merch and aisles of toys. Pokemon marbles, pokemon pogs, pokemon figurines, pokemon playsets, everything. We had books, magazines, guides official and unofficial. We had Pokeballs at Burger King. It was inescapable. We had spinoffs like Pokemon stadium 1 and 2, pokemon pinball, pokemon TCG for GBC, pokemon snap, hey you pikachu, pokemon puzzle league, and 6 mainline games all within about a 3 year span. We had event pokemon with mew and UNOBTAINABLE pokemon like celebi due to not getting the GS ball. We has spinoff exclusive pokemon too like the surfing pikachu from stadium. As someone who has been into pokemon since it came to the west, it feels wildly inaccurate to say it exploded during Gen III. Gen III is my favorite old school gen gameplay wise, but the reality is it was actually in decline at this point, though you may have become more aware of the franchise at that time.
Not sure what the rant about Gen 3 was about since that's kind of how all Pokemon games operated: "Gotta Catch em' All" was a slogan invented by the international markets while Japan's was simply "Get Pokemon" or something. Also I find the inclusion of other Pokemon merch like the Manga and Anime as contributing to the rant as a bit weird since that's pretty much how all multimedia franchises operate. As an example I'm not going to miss out of Lord of the Rings lore because I didn't watch The Rings of Power or buy the Lego sets.
Enjoy your videos, I recently got back in Pokémon after PLA came out, only played gen 1&2, didn’t know how hard gen3 was
I can easily relate myself with your situation, I'm a brazilian, and even receiving the American version of the pokémon games, we didn't receive events, there was really hard to even find a gamecube to buy, and even if you find one, most of the times the games weren't being sold over here...
Now a days it's easier, but during the early 2000, being a brazilian gamer was really hard
As someone who has and plays exclusively Japanese stuff I don’t see a problem with this. Considering Japan is the size of the State of California and both of those cultures and areas are relatively similar. The premise and concept of Pokémon was to find a community and play locally with friends which was easier in Japan. I think Pokémon was more corporate and cynical outside of Japan with the catchphrase “catch them all”. So I guess that’s more of miscommunication or misunderstanding of how to implement and introduce Pokémon, but was also a catchphrase that worked and made it the popular media it is now. As far as events and other games I never saw it as bad unless you were a hard core dedicated person who took “catch them all” to heart and the primary objective of the game. Fire Red and Leaf Green were meant to be retrofits of the first games and be an accessible way to implement Red and Blue Pokémon while also adding harder to obtain Gold and Silver Pokémon. Which is what the Colosseum games did too with the mythical and legendary Pokémon being relatively easy to get while also having a newer experience. Plus they needed a game to play for TV monitors like what Stadium 1, 2 and Stadium Gold and Silver did for earlier games.
Never seen your videos before and this is my first. Had to watch it because it’s my favorite and the generation we play on our game store too.
A lot of the features in Pokémon games and Nintendo consoles make a LOT more sense when you consider they were specifically made for Japanese players. Trading with your local community, like you mentioned, or the DS chat or StreetPass for the 3DS. And those people probably have a wonderful experience. The rest though... :'(
While I can sympathize with the feelings of those avid collectors among the fanbase; I think calling Gen 3 a “mess” and saying it was “split apart” for greed is a bit over the line. And of course they were distributed at places like Target and Toy’sR Us, since there weren’t any dedicated Pokémon stores at the time outside of Japan (still hardly aren’t)
99% of players born past Gen 2 don’t even bother collecting every Pokémon anyways, or even have a desire to. And the events where, (at the time anyways) just ways to make certain Pokémon more special and interesting than they would be otherwise.
If you play through Emerald nornally and are genuinely mad you didn’t get a Lugia, a Ho-Oh, and a Celebi by the end, I really don’t know what to tell you man. Manage your expectations?
I'd say natures and limited EVs were a great boon for competitive players. It adds much more strategy. Now you have to make strategic decisions about what stats to max out. Attack? Defense? Speed? It also makes the meta game way less stall centric, since everything is less bulky (even defensive pokemon have to either focus on 1 defensive stat or split them, since max HP is necessary).
Some valid criticisms, but I'd argue that for the most people collecting all the pokemon was never something they intended to do. Growing up I didn't know a single person who even mentioned the idea of completing the pokedex. It's not really about the niche completionism ideology and more so about getting the specific pokemon you want. And, while this is subjective, Colosseum and Gale of Darkness are some of my favorite games in the franchise and I'd much more attribute the lack of success for them to the fact that most people didn't have a gamecube. Handheld games and consoles were cheaper and the dvd playing ps2 and xbox outperformed the gamecube
Personally, Gen 3 was my introduction. My first impressions of gen 1 and 2 were how slow and broken they are, with none of the streamlining of gen 3 onwards. I also was surprised by the lack of the Sevii islands if you can believe it. I can also tell that you never played the gamecube games since, despite not playing XD as much as FireRed or Emerald just from having less content, I remember my time with XD much more because of the completely different atmosphere the game had (I never actually played Colosseum). I consider XD to be one of my favourite Pokemon games period, easily above the mainline games of the generation (though Emerald does come close). Heck, wanting to see if you'd play the GameCube games was one of the main things I was excited for for the gen 3 installment in your living dex series.
Pokémon Colosseum and XD stand great on their own. Their story, focus on Double Battles and the Shadow Pokémon mechanic is really fun to engage with and is brilliant to approach if you're a franchise veteran looking to shake things up.
Hell, they are leagues better than X and Y.
Go play them.
Your opinion on colosseum and xd are frustrating to say the least because you say they don’t stand in their own and only rely on the mainline games, and then you say you never played them. They are their own separate games. Just because they were originally necessary to complete the dex doesn’t mean that’s purely their sole purpose. They were both very good, and generally beloved games and I encourage you to try them because you’ll realize how good they actually are. It’s just weird to say a product you’ve never experienced relies on the mainline games when they really don’t, at least in any way remotely close to how you described.
It’s like saying that one Pokémon ranger game solely exists so you can get manaphy in gen 4 despite it being it’s own and entirely separate game.
The whole point of XD and Colosseum was to bridge the gap of gen 2 to gen 3. That was the issue of the game. It was pretty much Stadium, but much slower (due to double battles), and with a story mode.
@@vDeadbolt because it was made with bridging a gap in mind doesn’t mean it doesn’t stand on its own tho. It’s a solid game that he’s talking about as tho it was Pokémon box or something with no other purpose than to be connected to gen 2/3. Colosseum is a great game and it’s weird to frame it like it’s some throwaway title when it isn’t really.
I like how long this video is! Lots of good information here.
I love colosseum. It's so refreshing the whole deal of everything being a double battle and hitting the floor running. Plus that early 2000s vibe will always hold a special place for me since gen 1 and gen 3 were my first Pokémon games (i had gen 2 but slept on em until their batteries died for some reason). My only issue is its closeness to me playing stadium 2. Though i appreciate playing with all these johtomon, i was really hoping to see more Hoenn since theyre actually new models and animations than stadium 2. Then after finally beating the game and collecting all the shadow Pokémon, a problem: my memory card was on the fritz. Almost every time i'd boot up the game, it'd flag a save file corruption and send me to a previous state. My third party big chungus memory card was effectively baking itself due to that capacity, according to my reading, this meant at any time, all my Pokémon could be wiped out. So, I had to blitz through the mount battle game mode, get Ho-Oh, and start the exodus. Thankfully everything went smoothly, I even got all my tms and rare items out with my Pokémon. The save even corrupted, cloning my Zigzagoon i had carrying shadowball tm30. So i named both of them and left the clone behind in colosseum to keep watch until the end of time. Also you cant move colosseum or XD save data between memory cards hence the exodus was necessary to save them. On the bright side, this means one day I'll be able to shiny hunt through colosseum.
This exodus and sapphire being my most favorite child of gen 3 with most of the Hoenndex filled, lead me to filling the nationaldex in sapphire. All that's left are the Kanto legends, Mew, Celebi, and Deoxys. (My firered copy is used and they game ended the birds and i wanna shiny hunt them in leafgreen. Thankfully i hear the legends are in XD Gale of Darkness, for when I get around to playing that one.)
I feel like if you made a discord for fellow pokemon enjoyers and collectors, it would do REALLY well. As an avid collector, I am subscribed and eagerly awaiting the playthrough for gen 3 living dex. I am curious how you will go about the event pokemon process for irl carts unless this will be done via roms.
"Region locking, or as I like to call it, racism. :)"
- MattKC
I remember being a middle teen with anxiety, going into a gamestop, researching online to make sure an event genesect in X&Y was available in my country, hyping myself up for the week it was available, only barely being able to get myself over my fears on the last day to go in, and the employee working the register told me "oh, that's America only"
(7:25) Colosseum and XD are fantastic on their own. Highly recommended for pokemon fans.
Sometimes when I see a Pokémon Emerald Cartridge, I have to remind myself That while I love the game, what I miss isn't the game itself, but the nostalgia of being on a car ride playing it on my little red GameBoy Advance SP, plugged into a car charger, on our way to/from Grandma's, or the beach, or wherever.
Please, for your sanity, check the colosseum and xd capture lists before you plan out how many reruns you'll need. They can definitely save you a few
first amazing website great work on that! but i also want to mention that alot of the problems with events in gen 3 are to do with there primitive nature as in gen 4 and onwards you can get wifi events that are still around today being hosted on fan servers id say if you want to get gen 3 events today you should use to pomeg berry glitch or using a savefile online that has the events unlocked
I remember 10/11 year old me walking around thinking Pokémon was over, then I walked past the electronic section in Walmart and saw the box Art for Ruby and Sapphire in the Coming Soon section and it was a wrap
This is a really great video! You bring up so many good points. I appreciate the effort you put into your videos. Keep it up!
Leafgreen was my first Pokemon game and I had NO IDEA that the starter determines which legendary dog/sabrecat shows up
Also, the core appeal of the Gamecube games to be about mainline connectivity just sounds fucked up and wrong to me. To be fair, I had no idea that they weren't part of the main series until a few years after I got my first internet connection, 6 years after playing them.(Neither was I exposed to this playstyle of caring about actually catching them all until RUclips) They were such unbelievably amazing games to me back then, despite also having other consoles and a PC
I also got super lucky living in Germany, so I got to experience Pokemon Day, where a single McDonald's 200km away from me held a Pokemon meetup event every year between 2009 and 2014. That's about all the events we got, but it was the first time I got to try out the wireless functionality of my DS and GBA(Thankfully, I wasn't the only one who took their Emerald there)
....I understand your frustrations relating to catching every Pokemon, but I fail to see why the Pokemon anime and Adventures manga are specifically brought up for Gen 3. It's not like those were new things. Those started just after Gen 1 was released, and predate Red and Blue's release in either NA or Europe. And there's no Pokemon rewards for watching the anime or reading the manga, is there?
Nope, he brought up a whole bunch of "problems" that evidently are not at all problems with the gen 3 games, for some reason he decided the tone for this vid had to be negative or something...
@@arthurkernkamp5062 I'm not detracting from his personal experience, I'm just...confused. He's not wrong in pointing out the ways that the Pokemon Company shifted focus away from the games in favor of the overall brand, and it was formed after the release of Gold and Silver....but those two things in particular didn't make sense to bring up. And he does have a point about how Pokemon operates basically purely on massive inertia and does a lot of things just for the sake of it.
You are right, it is not presented well, and some examples I used were not specific to Gen 3. The goal was to evoke the feeling that Gen 1 felt like everything revolved around Red & Blue, whereas Gen 3 felt like it was going through the motions and not relying on the core games as much anymore.
For instance, I show the cartridges of both Pokémon Pinball games, as it shows the Gen 1 game being a genuine attempt at bringing something new to the table with the rumbling cartridge, while Gen 3 is a straightforward sequel without the rumbling feature and just new Pokémon.
Admittedly, it is a very clunky and lacking way to present this for sure, and I am not super pleased with it as well. I'll do better next time!
This was a great video and your insight was super informative! As someone growing up in the states I always felt salty at gamefreak and envious of Japanese fans so it was curious to see other regions had it even worse than I did. Between that and the state of their two European inspired gens (sword\shield + scarlet\violet) on release if I didn't know any better I'd say gamefreak 's main goal is to give the finger to European fans i swear lmao
Considering also Kalos, and the lack of ORAS-helping DLC, it's all three.
Colosseum was a really fun game. A more teenage edgelord vibe than the mainline games, you played as either a reformed villain working to atone for your past sins, or someone who was working undercover and had to bail on it to fight them more outright (I don't know if they ever clarified this or if it was up to you to fill in the blanks).
The game was exclusively double battles, and you start with both Espeon and Umbreon at level 20-something, feeling like you have a jump start to the game.
Plus it was the first 3D Pokemon game, which made the game feel more alive. Only downsides were that if you wanted to trade any Pokemon you caught, you had to purify them first. And you couldn't catch wild Pokemon, you could only "snag" shadow Pokemon from the villains of the game, and there were very few available in comparison to a mainline game.
As the budget option for trading, they had the Game Boy Player was $50. I already had a GameCube for playing other games, and a second GBA would have cost $100. Plus if you wanted to play GB games on the TV (larger and no batteries required) you could do so.
I don't remember why but i never got/asked for XD.
"Simply enjoying a video game was not enough anymore."
I agree Gen 3 changed pokemon, but that definitely wasnt how. I was a kid during Gen 1. The whole reason it was such a big deal was because it was so much more tha a game. That's been consistent since the franchise came to the US.
I am from a country called algeria, I was a very big fan of pokemon when I was a kid and although there were things a lot more annoying than this(cough cough civil war) I remember when it finally clicked for me. It was in the early 20s and I remember one of my rich friends who got to fly all the way to france and attend an event and get a mythical. I realized the genius of the version exclusives, basically my parents only had to buy a single version for me to be plenty content giving it quite the appeal, but my rich friend could pester his parents for all sorts of extra things. Essentially making for a primitive version of dlc. Jokes on him is, when getting legitimate version of pokemon got more difficult, pirating the games with every cheat under the sun was the goto for most kids.
Not playing gen 3 because you can't catch them all is nonsensical. As a kid with no access to the internet or a strategy guide kept me playing gen 3 just to find the secrets. I had no idea there were events to give you legendary and mythical Pokemon. Seeing each game or each pair of games in a vacuum they are fantastic you really need to nitpick the can't catch em all for mons you are never gonna use anyway.
It is not so much about the Mythical or Legendaries themselves, but the idea that before you do anything, you know you won't be able to access all the content in the game. Which is very sad considering it has nothing to do with the core game, which is really good by the way!
Why buy a game I know will require me to buy several consoles if I want to see everything, when I can stick to my PS2 and have a fulfilling and complete experience in a single game? At least that was my thought process back then.
As a kid that had no idea what was going on outside of the game with events & needing GameCube games to get certain Pokémon gen 3 was very fun & I was very immersed in gen 3 just like I was with the original
To be fair, without the internet as a kid, when gen 3 released all you knew was just that pokemon game and it was by far the best pokemon games at that time reguardless of features they removed. Because like you stated, THE TARGET AUDIENCE IS CHILDREN, and I cannot recall a single kid EVER complaining about the reasons you brought up outside of "where is charmander at?" Followed by searching for it until you forgot because there is so much more to do in the game compared to gens 1 and 2
Subscribed. I used to keep doing Living Dex in Gen 3 on mobile with emulators, having to restart FR/LG each time just for a legendary beast was a grind.
Lyra your content is very good I look forward to the next videos. And I understand how difficult it is not to catch Pokemon from events, here in Brazil these events have never been held so the only way to acquire these Pokemon was by trading online or using cheats.
Thank you very much for the kind words! I hope you enjoy the upcoming content as well :')
Bummer for you in Brazil :'( From what I know, Nintendo completely gave up on Brazil and buying consoles and games is so expensive there!
I agree 100% with your opinion on the lowkey predatory nature of some kids games. It sounds dramatic when you write it out but I remember being a kid in a country where there were no events, Pokémon wasn't popular and just wanting to do anything I could to play the next games and get everything new in Pokémon and now I'm just at a point where idk if its worth it or not sometimes. I try to play emulators of the old games now and really I think hard before I buy those 60 dollar switch games that don't have much replay value.😅😅 I'd say the lesson here is making smart consumer choices not entirely based on nostalgia, for me at least. I mean that's all I really can do.
It is predatory and we were taken advantage of.
Thanks capatalism.
In fact, the main reason for the dex in Gen 3 beeing so split and difficult to complete was the way pokémon company found to fight the rental game policy of the US that was illegal in japan, they made it so u will need to have 7 games and compete all of the runs, that's why in the Kanto remakes I can only trade after the post game for example
Is this true? Do you have a source?
oh god.. seeing you say all the games and accessories needed.. then looking down at my collection and seeing i have them all makes me feel like a sucker.. game freak got me good.. tbf tho.. ive had them all forever and XD is by far even to this day one of my all time favorite pokemon games.
9:12 thank you. I have never felt more gratified hearing someone else say this.
Yeah, the event Pokémon thing has always been annoying
I'm sure they won't make you go to specific stores in future generations, and the idea of location-specific events will seem laughable by the time we get to the Switch games. Right...?