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In the opening comments of this reaction, you mentioned possibly watching The Last of Us. Although I'm a new viewer to your channel, I cannot overstate how much I would like to see YOU TWO, react to The Last of Us. What a treat that would be.
The movie symbolized when Cooper "lost" his humanity when he accepted the studio's change in his movie character. Remember he used to just arrest the bad guys now he killed one. The Ghoul was remembering when he was once "human" and maybe Lucy would give a very tiny piece of that humanity back.
The Lucy's Dad was the Overseer of Lucy's Vault on multiple occasions (I think we saw multiple times as overseer when Norm was searching through the records). At any rate, they weren't the owners of Vault Tec, just middle management.
Right, we're slowly realizing more about that. It's still a mystery for us, but there's definitely something very suspicious about the vaults in general.
Shogun is a great show based on a classic novel. The acting, writing, sets, and overall attention to detail are amazing. Some bits are hard to watch but its pretty true to the novel.
There's no Fudge here. 🤖 Lucy made her first kill with the new finger, a little bit of the Wasteland that's now a part of her. Keep an eye out for what happens to Lucy's original finger, a little bit of her. As someone with an old philosophy/psychology/ethics background before I switched careers, it's absolutely fascinating watching people react to these characters and their actions. The way pre-existing opinions influence interpretations of their actions, how some things are 'forgiven' or 'understandable' if one person does them, but would be horrific if done by another, etc. It's a ton of fun.
Right, other reactors have bent over backward to excuse and justify the Ghoul’s vile behavior while casting Maximus’ every move in the worst possible light. Cooper was once a good man but the Ghoul has for centuries done unforgivable things to survive. There are occasional flickers of humanity but by his actions he is 95% monstrous evil. But he is a cool monster so we keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.
We can see your point. What we appreciate about the Ghoul is that he's upfront. What happens with Maximus is that he keeps doing things that don't really make sense. Even though there is an understandable reason for him being like that, it's frustrating to see it. That same thing happened with the Ghoul when he got drunk. We were like: why are is he getting drunk and breaking viles being careless in this critical moment? It was frustrating to see him making that choice even when it's justifiable. We just feel like Maximus has more of those moments that frustrate the public a bit more often, and so far we still don't know if he was the one that hurt Dane in the first place, so we are unsure if he's "good" or "bad". Whereas with the Ghoul, you know he's bad, but he owns it, so you know what you're getting. The way the production constructed this characters is very interesting, so we love debating about it and finding out how others interpreted them as well :)
@@NerdishReact Thanks for the thoughtful and well-reasoned response. I am all for the constructive and polite discussion of why people react differently to the interesting characters in this series. Maximus is by far the most polarizing character because the writers want us to mistrust him, to second-guess him, to be frustrated with him. They spoon-feed us information to humanize the Ghoul by showing us the caring man he used to be while withholding information that would humanize or exculpate Maximus (e.g., they could have shown in episode one who put the razor in Dane’s boot but they withhold that information and instead provide us with intentionally ambiguous dialogue during Maximus’s interrogation and his conversation with Dane). Few of us, thankfully, lost everything and everyone we knew as a child, struggled to survive in a world gone mad with desperation, and then joined a militaristic cult whose actions often failed to match their ideals. But unfortunately too many children in the real world have had that experience, and the effects of this kind of trauma on a child’s development is well documented. Maximus aspires to be brave, honorable, and good but those are luxuries that someone surviving in the wasteland cannot always afford. Maximus, through no fault of his own, is also profoundly ignorant in some areas of knowledge and has underdeveloped social skills, especially when interacting with authority figures. Maximus’ actions make a bit more sense in this context. Basically, he has Lucy on one shoulder telling him to be good and the Ghoul on the other shoulder telling him to survive at all cost. Combine that with his talents and flaws and we see Maximus swing wildly from craven ineptitude to noble competence depending on the situation. That is what makes him interesting to me and others.
Absolutely! Maximus is a complex character and the way they are all presented in comparison to each other creates a really cool contrast. We're glad we watched this show not only because it's really cool in general, but because of details like those. We still have to watch the last episode, but we love the development Maximus is getting so far.
The Last of Us is *excellent* TV, but it has weaponized sadness. Every episode you'll be like "this is the worst it can get, right?" and then the show goes "hold my beer." But I highly recommend it. Just have tissues ready. And stay far, far away from spoilers.
Thank you! We're pretty sure that's what we'll react to next 🤗 So far we just know that Pedro Pascal is in it lol 😆😆 we'll be careful with the comment section 😉
I've always wondered if ghouls felt pain, because they were transformed by exposure to an enormous amount of radiation that made them become radioactive themselves, so it's as if they lived inside a microwave oven that constantly cooks them, maybe even this is why they continuously take any type of drug
It wasn’t tremendous exposure to radiation that made the ghouls the ghouls. Exposure to high amounts of radiation kills you or makes you sick and then you die. If you haven’t received a lethal dose, high doses will cause cancer and other health problems and you’ll have a much shorter life. What turns you into a ghoul is the medicine used to treat severe radiation exposure. If you receive a lethal dose like Cooper did at the first episode, they are going to give you huge multiple doses of the anti-radiation medicine. Or maybe there’s two forms of anti-radiation medicine, one for light exposure and one for heavy exposure. Cooper would need the later medication. I think that a feral ghoul had lost its mind, not its humanity. At some point, Cooper/The Ghoul lost his humanity, but he didn’t lose his mind or the ability to regulate himself.
Roger at the beginning was already a Ghoul. He was becoming feral because he didn't have anymore vials. When a Ghoul becomes feral it's like what you saw those last few Ghouls acting like that killed the two stoner characters near the end. They just become mindless killing machines. Ghouls are extremely lucky survivors who simply don't die when just enough radiation hits them instead of killing them it gave them a mutated appearance inside and out essentially leaving them immortal. Though, mind you they're not exactly mutants themselves. They simply look horrific due to the effects of the radiation from the Fallout. There are actual mutants in the Fallout universe but the show hasn't introduced them yet. But yes, the games originally had Ghouls going feral randomly and there was no hard and fast explanation or cure for it. The show is seemingly introducing this drug in the vials they need to take off to hold off becoming feral. There's a few theories and or game and lore moments that kind of contend with the idea but, I think it might just be a retconned idea they're just introducing for the sake of explaining why the Ghoul in the show is so old without succumbing and going feral. It'll probably end up in future games for better or worse. Also, there's been a few explorations of the Ghoul condition before in the games. There's a particularly sad side quest in one of the DLC for Fallout 4 that's very good and shows what happens to Ghouls who apparently don't have the vials they need but also don't even understand their condition. It was the entries in a diary of a young woman at an amusement part alongside her co-workers who got stuck there when the bombs fell. A radiation storm blew into the region and blanketed the park with what was left of the Fallout from a bomb going off in a nearby city. For those among them that didn't die they became Ghouls and then one by one they began to become feral. The girl left the park eventually on her own exploring settlements of surviving humans near the park and asking all the right questions but finding no answers. In the end, she planned to taker her own life and gave one last sad journal entry about it. It's a stirring part of the DLC and it's just a side quest. Fallout is full of those all over the place in side quests or little bits of lore you'll find from characters in the world and you can either piece together or find clues that detail their last moments.
Ohh that's really interesting! Thank you for explaining all of that from the game. There's still much we don't know about this universe but thanks to comments like these we get it a bit better every time. The game sounds really cool and we would love to play it someday. They really put a huge effort in the story behind it.
You should definitely react to "The Last of Us". Like this series based on a video game some of the best television I've seen in the last 10 years. Warning it is emotional
Late to the party, as usual... Last of Us is an excellent series, and you would be enriched by seeing it. (It's also pretty good bait for pulling new people in, though its time may be expiring - until the next season comes out.) Please note, however, you WILL cry. A lot. Imagine the hardest you've ever cried, that's the first episode. Then it gets a little bit worse each episode until you need to use intravenous fluids to not dehydrate into dust by the finale of the series.
Oh well... and here we thought we were done crying on camera lol Thanks for the warning! We feel like we still want to check it out because everyone speaks so highly of it.
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In the opening comments of this reaction, you mentioned possibly watching The Last of Us. Although I'm a new viewer to your channel, I cannot overstate how much I would like to see YOU TWO, react to The Last of Us. What a treat that would be.
The movie symbolized when Cooper "lost" his humanity when he accepted the studio's change in his movie character. Remember he used to just arrest the bad guys now he killed one. The Ghoul was remembering when he was once "human" and maybe Lucy would give a very tiny piece of that humanity back.
Right! That was an amazing way of showing it. We love how this production communicates things like that.
Override means to take control of the System. With a computer, there is always a master or backdoor code that can give a user control.
Ohh gotcha, thanks!!
Again, another great reaction! 😊 “Golden Rule, muthaf**ka!l 😂😂😂 Also, “The Last of Us” is another great series, I’m sure you guys will love it.
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We would love to see it! We might watch that after this one
This is the episode where Norm’s story takes off. Such a great character and story arc.
Yes! We really want to know what he's up to now.
The Lucy's Dad was the Overseer of Lucy's Vault on multiple occasions (I think we saw multiple times as overseer when Norm was searching through the records). At any rate, they weren't the owners of Vault Tec, just middle management.
Right, we're slowly realizing more about that. It's still a mystery for us, but there's definitely something very suspicious about the vaults in general.
A great show to watch Shogun(10 episodes) with a 2nd season recently approved.
Also House of the Dragon
Shogun is a great show based on a classic novel. The acting, writing, sets, and overall attention to detail are amazing. Some bits are hard to watch but its pretty true to the novel.
Thanks! We'll check them out :)
There's no Fudge here. 🤖
Lucy made her first kill with the new finger, a little bit of the Wasteland that's now a part of her. Keep an eye out for what happens to Lucy's original finger, a little bit of her.
As someone with an old philosophy/psychology/ethics background before I switched careers, it's absolutely fascinating watching people react to these characters and their actions. The way pre-existing opinions influence interpretations of their actions, how some things are 'forgiven' or 'understandable' if one person does them, but would be horrific if done by another, etc. It's a ton of fun.
Right, other reactors have bent over backward to excuse and justify the Ghoul’s vile behavior while casting Maximus’ every move in the worst possible light. Cooper was once a good man but the Ghoul has for centuries done unforgivable things to survive. There are occasional flickers of humanity but by his actions he is 95% monstrous evil. But he is a cool monster so we keep giving him the benefit of the doubt.
We can see your point. What we appreciate about the Ghoul is that he's upfront. What happens with Maximus is that he keeps doing things that don't really make sense. Even though there is an understandable reason for him being like that, it's frustrating to see it. That same thing happened with the Ghoul when he got drunk. We were like: why are is he getting drunk and breaking viles being careless in this critical moment? It was frustrating to see him making that choice even when it's justifiable. We just feel like Maximus has more of those moments that frustrate the public a bit more often, and so far we still don't know if he was the one that hurt Dane in the first place, so we are unsure if he's "good" or "bad". Whereas with the Ghoul, you know he's bad, but he owns it, so you know what you're getting.
The way the production constructed this characters is very interesting, so we love debating about it and finding out how others interpreted them as well :)
@@NerdishReact Thanks for the thoughtful and well-reasoned response. I am all for the constructive and polite discussion of why people react differently to the interesting characters in this series. Maximus is by far the most polarizing character because the writers want us to mistrust him, to second-guess him, to be frustrated with him. They spoon-feed us information to humanize the Ghoul by showing us the caring man he used to be while withholding information that would humanize or exculpate Maximus (e.g., they could have shown in episode one who put the razor in Dane’s boot but they withhold that information and instead provide us with intentionally ambiguous dialogue during Maximus’s interrogation and his conversation with Dane). Few of us, thankfully, lost everything and everyone we knew as a child, struggled to survive in a world gone mad with desperation, and then joined a militaristic cult whose actions often failed to match their ideals. But unfortunately too many children in the real world have had that experience, and the effects of this kind of trauma on a child’s development is well documented. Maximus aspires to be brave, honorable, and good but those are luxuries that someone surviving in the wasteland cannot always afford. Maximus, through no fault of his own, is also profoundly ignorant in some areas of knowledge and has underdeveloped social skills, especially when interacting with authority figures. Maximus’ actions make a bit more sense in this context. Basically, he has Lucy on one shoulder telling him to be good and the Ghoul on the other shoulder telling him to survive at all cost. Combine that with his talents and flaws and we see Maximus swing wildly from craven ineptitude to noble competence depending on the situation. That is what makes him interesting to me and others.
Absolutely! Maximus is a complex character and the way they are all presented in comparison to each other creates a really cool contrast. We're glad we watched this show not only because it's really cool in general, but because of details like those. We still have to watch the last episode, but we love the development Maximus is getting so far.
You’ll find out this season why the Ghoul knows the Mclane name. Don’t worry about it.
The Last of Us is *excellent* TV, but it has weaponized sadness. Every episode you'll be like "this is the worst it can get, right?" and then the show goes "hold my beer." But I highly recommend it. Just have tissues ready.
And stay far, far away from spoilers.
Thank you! We're pretty sure that's what we'll react to next 🤗
So far we just know that Pedro Pascal is in it lol 😆😆 we'll be careful with the comment section 😉
Recommendations: These always seem to attract viewers: Invincible and/or The Green Mile
Thank you for the recommendations! We'll check them out 🤗
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Right, it's not like there're a ton of other drinking options waiting for him
I've always wondered if ghouls felt pain, because they were transformed by exposure to an enormous amount of radiation that made them become radioactive themselves, so it's as if they lived inside a microwave oven that constantly cooks them, maybe even this is why they continuously take any type of drug
That's a very interesting theory! When they're so used to feeling pain all the time, that's normal for them, so what's pain anymore?
It wasn’t tremendous exposure to radiation that made the ghouls the ghouls. Exposure to high amounts of radiation kills you or makes you sick and then you die. If you haven’t received a lethal dose, high doses will cause cancer and other health problems and you’ll have a much shorter life.
What turns you into a ghoul is the medicine used to treat severe radiation exposure. If you receive a lethal dose like Cooper did at the first episode, they are going to give you huge multiple doses of the anti-radiation medicine. Or maybe there’s two forms of anti-radiation medicine, one for light exposure and one for heavy exposure. Cooper would need the later medication.
I think that a feral ghoul had lost its mind, not its humanity. At some point, Cooper/The Ghoul lost his humanity, but he didn’t lose his mind or the ability to regulate himself.
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Roger at the beginning was already a Ghoul. He was becoming feral because he didn't have anymore vials. When a Ghoul becomes feral it's like what you saw those last few Ghouls acting like that killed the two stoner characters near the end. They just become mindless killing machines.
Ghouls are extremely lucky survivors who simply don't die when just enough radiation hits them instead of killing them it gave them a mutated appearance inside and out essentially leaving them immortal. Though, mind you they're not exactly mutants themselves. They simply look horrific due to the effects of the radiation from the Fallout. There are actual mutants in the Fallout universe but the show hasn't introduced them yet.
But yes, the games originally had Ghouls going feral randomly and there was no hard and fast explanation or cure for it. The show is seemingly introducing this drug in the vials they need to take off to hold off becoming feral. There's a few theories and or game and lore moments that kind of contend with the idea but, I think it might just be a retconned idea they're just introducing for the sake of explaining why the Ghoul in the show is so old without succumbing and going feral. It'll probably end up in future games for better or worse.
Also, there's been a few explorations of the Ghoul condition before in the games. There's a particularly sad side quest in one of the DLC for Fallout 4 that's very good and shows what happens to Ghouls who apparently don't have the vials they need but also don't even understand their condition. It was the entries in a diary of a young woman at an amusement part alongside her co-workers who got stuck there when the bombs fell. A radiation storm blew into the region and blanketed the park with what was left of the Fallout from a bomb going off in a nearby city. For those among them that didn't die they became Ghouls and then one by one they began to become feral.
The girl left the park eventually on her own exploring settlements of surviving humans near the park and asking all the right questions but finding no answers. In the end, she planned to taker her own life and gave one last sad journal entry about it. It's a stirring part of the DLC and it's just a side quest. Fallout is full of those all over the place in side quests or little bits of lore you'll find from characters in the world and you can either piece together or find clues that detail their last moments.
Ohh that's really interesting! Thank you for explaining all of that from the game. There's still much we don't know about this universe but thanks to comments like these we get it a bit better every time.
The game sounds really cool and we would love to play it someday. They really put a huge effort in the story behind it.
You should definitely react to "The Last of Us". Like this series based on a video game some of the best television I've seen in the last 10 years. Warning it is emotional
Awesome! We'll look into it. Thanks!
Late to the party, as usual... Last of Us is an excellent series, and you would be enriched by seeing it. (It's also pretty good bait for pulling new people in, though its time may be expiring - until the next season comes out.) Please note, however, you WILL cry. A lot. Imagine the hardest you've ever cried, that's the first episode. Then it gets a little bit worse each episode until you need to use intravenous fluids to not dehydrate into dust by the finale of the series.
We enjoyed Fallout so much!! We can't wait for the next season 😁 It's such a creative story, we don't have a clue how it's going to continue.
Hydra regrows limbs
The name makes sense 😂
In some of the games you can heal a crippled limb with a Stimpack, so I can kind of understand where the confusion comes from honestly.
Thanks for clearing that up!
Last of us is very good.
So is Good Omens
And Sandman especially if you want to see a different side of DC comics
Thanks! We'll have a look at those.
The Last of Us is amazing.
But I'll warn you it's scary and violent like Fallout and you will cry a lot.
Oh well... and here we thought we were done crying on camera lol
Thanks for the warning! We feel like we still want to check it out because everyone speaks so highly of it.
@@NerdishReact it IS very very very good.
But it’s a lot.
You should maybe watch some gentler show at the same time as a break :)
Thank you for the recommendation! But so far, that's what people seem to want to see the most. We'll buckle up hahaha