I totally love the look of 35 1.4 and 50 1.2, so your setup makes sense to me, but I cannot justify having so similar focal lenghts. Plus I doubt any of my wedding clientes could tell the difference of bokeh. So Im forced to choose one. My pick is the 35, only because is more versatile.
Great comparison. I own both and will keep both since they are so flexible. The 50/1.2 is marvelous in crop mode as a 75/1.8. Perfect for tighter portraits when you don’t have an 85mm.
For the new wedding season (video) it was between the 50 f1.2 and the Tamron 35-150. I went with the Tamron, it has been on backorder since November at B&H😢
Thanks for this comparison! I am going to be picking up the 35 gm at some point this year and seeing the versatility of the lens is great. I think the 50mm is gorgeous but as a professional hybrid video/photo shooter, it's just so nice to be able to have a wide 35 that I can punch in as a 50 in video mode. A 50 is just far too "zoomed in" in apsc mode for run and gun work like I do so having the 35mm is really like having both lenses... I will regret not having that dreamy1.2 bokeh but in the end, the clients probably won't notice the difference too much.
I just jumped into mirrorless and into Full Frame world and swapped from a Nikon D500 into Sony world with the a7IV - all at once! And I was literally just buying a 35 1.4 and 85 1.4 and contemplating getting a 50 1.2 but I didn't want to dish out that much money at once/in a single month, so I just bought the 35 and 85. Tried the 35 on APSC mode and I liked it! Also Sony Eye/Face AF is god damn amazing!!! I love it!
Couldn’t stretch to 1.2 money,settled for zeiss f1.8 and am enjoying my 24mm,35mm and 85mm 1.4’s….always look forward to your videos.Tonight’s entertainment will be the A7iv set up video….many many thanks.🙌🏻🙌🏻
Thanks for this - although to be honest I had to take a good look at the images to notice the differences properly - surprising as I thought at 1.2 there would be a much more defocussed foreground and background than there was.
But... if the samples where donne as a sales pitch specifically to sell the f1.2 50mm; I'm convinced that most compelling differences could have been created (wile remaining honest) in favor of the f1.2 of the 50. But I "agree".. the first image here (where only the 50's result on monitor is zoomed in to "show/proove the "creamy rendering" makes me actually even doubt that these results, this sequence, has no mistake somewhere. At least there I don't agree that the difference is "visible", at all (even knowing I'm watching only on a smartphone). (BTW; the "lenscompensations turned off" thing is presented as a smart act and of virtue - presumptions that in my opinion deserved much more attention. However it's really an excellent video to justify the expenses for the 35 for the (true) amateur (with a cheaper 35 he would need a cheap 50 to match it at f 2.8 for the same total expense. Lol.)
Thanks for doing these videos comparing the crop mode vs full frame field of view. Something you mentioned in the 24 crop vs 35 ff video was that you cant uncrop, the raw data is gone. I noticed this as a tiny negative too, and even though I do use crop for quick extra reach for primes, I also noticed that if I turn on square aspect ratio on my A9 the jpg and viewfinder view is square and "cropped", but it does not erase that data from the raw file, so even though I have the same width as if I used crop mode, I can get a wider view from the raw if I need to reframe it. I know square aspect ratio is different for composition but it's interesting as you can preview your crop, but later crop it less or crop to vertical 2:3 or horizontal 3:2 if you need, and the end resolution is the same as if we used crop mode. More control, if needed, but more storage and processing.
Great comparison between two popular lenses. I chose 35mm because of its versatility and recently considering having a 50 1.2 gm. Your video does provide valuable information.
big thanks, exactly what I was interested in, on a multi-pixel camera like R3 or a7IV, use 35 as well as 50. I love sharpness and bokeh more than zooms :)
Zawsze byłem fanem zestawu 24mm + 85mm, ale kilka dni temu kupiłem 50mm 1.2 i trochę mi ten obiektyw namieszał w głowie. Próbowałem wrzucić go w najtrudniejsze sytuacje z ogromnym kontekstem i bardzo krzaczastym tłem. Nie rozczarował mnie ani razu. Ani grama aberracji, idealnie kremowe tło. Nawet na 1.2 przy ponad 40mpx z A7R3A jest obłędnie ostry. Podejrzewam, że w tym sezonie nie jeden plener zostanie wykonany w całości tym szkłem 😁
Really good video, hope that one day can see a 35mm f1.2 gm, if so will buy one. I think for now having 24mm gm + 50mm gm still be my best combination.
My Friend, I know this is a very old video, but how about a comparison of the 1.2 full frame to a 1.2 crop??? And possible up against a 0.95??? Then maybe a 0.95 shootout???
From years of experience, 35mm is much more versatile. If I could take only one prime, it would be a 35/1.4. If you want less DOF you can always move a bit closer to the subject, yes there is more distortion, but acceptable. But in tight spaces, interiour portraits, street photography etc. you often cannot move more far away. You should compare, how both look wide open with the same field of view, both uncropped on a fullframe, just different distance from the subject. It would look much more similar IMHO.
great video my brother, I started this year at sony with the A7iv and ended up buying the GM 35mm 1.4 and I'm happy to know that I actually have two lenses lol, I watched many videos about the 35mm 1.4, including yours, thank you very much for sharing content so good, and congratulations on the beautiful family, God bless you brother.
Actually, you can achive almost the same looking getting closer with the 35mm, take three or six photos (trying to get the same parts of the image) and blend them in post. That could work in some photoshoot but not for a wedding or something happening fast.
Oh it's definitely helpful, now I'm stuck between two lenses I can't afford, and seeing who has better depth of field Completely ignoring the fact that I own a Canon 90D (not the best in low light), and that one of them maxes out at f/6.3 😂😂😂😂 Did I mention that I'll need a tripod as well?
Ha, just found this video after getting rid of my 50 for the 35. Was not enjoying the 1.2 blur at all. Kept using f2 to 2.8, as the 1.2 looked like Gaussian Blur slapped on in PS. The 35 lives on my A1 now, in apsc mode.
Heyhey, thank you very much for the comparison, i just subscribed. I am wondering if there would be a sense in comparing the same way the 50mm f/1.2 cropped to the 85mm f/1.4 GM. I just sold my 85mm f/1.4 GM and decided to use my telephoto zoom from the 70mm+ range in general, but considering to get the 50mm GM f/1.2 now to somewhat regain what the 85mm f/1.4 GM had to offer in terms of dreaminess with the flexibility of switching between a wider 50mm and a more close portraitish 75mm.
I’m glad you like it! Yeah, 50GM in aps-c mode should give 77/1.8 equivalent, so close to 85, but more 1.8, which for most cases might be enough. You can probably end up with the same thoughts / decisions to make as with 35 and 50. Unless Sony comes up with 85/1.2 !
This may be bit of topic but how do you use the custom buttons in those lenses? The 50mm has two of them and I’m struggling to find use for just one of them. 😂
I only assigned one - for aperture preview that works only in aperture drive focus priority mode when shooting higher f values. But… never used it, not even once 😂
I bought myself Samyang 35mm 1.8 on a7 rii with hope of having useful nifty fifty-ish:p and it might have some sense afterall;p However, I have not been aware that using crop-mode will affect aperture on the lense..:)) Though still having a lense close to 50mm with around 2.8 seems like something one can live with. Cheers! Thnx for interesting perspective.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographerYes, but maybe there will be a new 85mm.f.1.2 GM lens this year and then the price will drop on the 85mm.f.1.4 GM lens and then I might want to buy it at a cheaper price. I have previously owned 85mm.f.1.4, but sold it when I felt it was too heavy to lug around with my other lenses, as I try to make my kit as light as possible without compromising on quality, but with the lenses 24mm.f.1.4 GM and 35mm.f.1.4 GM I have now made my kit less heavy, so there should now be room for 85mm.f.1.4 GM .....
excactly the test I wanted to do on my 35mm 1.4 lens vs my 55mm 1.8 lens, 35mm gives you way more room to work with, and you can easily get a simular look to the 55mm by just cropping a bit
The "lens-compensations turned off" thing is presented as a smart act and of virtue - with presumptions that in my opinion deserved much more attention. (I turn them on in camera (viewfinder, monitor playback, (and video), to not have bad surprises when I choose to dial them in wile processing my raw files (I never produce Jpegs). I have different doubts at the first scene where only the 50' is engaged at the monitor in LR's compare mode. It does absolutely not highlight there as claimed (why?), a striking difference to the 35. I dont see it. However it's really an excellent video to justify the expenses for the 35 for the (true) amateur. (Since with a cheaper 35 he would need a cheap 50 to match it at f 2.8 - the same total expense.lol. In this case, with (if) that budget, go with the 35 GM) One could 'quiet easily', without cheating, make/find many results made with the 50 that, I'm still very confident, the 35 could strikingly not match. However this video does show that for "simple" aproches, this comparison is sronishingly doable.
I totally love the look of 35 1.4 and 50 1.2, so your setup makes sense to me, but I cannot justify having so similar focal lenghts. Plus I doubt any of my wedding clientes could tell the difference of bokeh. So Im forced to choose one. My pick is the 35, only because is more versatile.
35mm and 50mm I think look quite different
How do you still have less than 10k subs?! Anyone here watching is getting in on the ground level of something special 👏🏼
Haha thank you my friend! Getting there!
I prefer the 35mm 1.4 GM because it's more versatile. With the focus breathing and crop mode, you get can a tighter focal length.
Great comparison. I own both and will keep both since they are so flexible. The 50/1.2 is marvelous in crop mode as a 75/1.8. Perfect for tighter portraits when you don’t have an 85mm.
For the new wedding season (video) it was between the 50 f1.2 and the Tamron 35-150. I went with the Tamron, it has been on backorder since November at B&H😢
Thanks for this comparison! I am going to be picking up the 35 gm at some point this year and seeing the versatility of the lens is great. I think the 50mm is gorgeous but as a professional hybrid video/photo shooter, it's just so nice to be able to have a wide 35 that I can punch in as a 50 in video mode. A 50 is just far too "zoomed in" in apsc mode for run and gun work like I do so having the 35mm is really like having both lenses... I will regret not having that dreamy1.2 bokeh but in the end, the clients probably won't notice the difference too much.
Yup! I think the difference is not for clients - it’s for our visual pleasure 😂
I just jumped into mirrorless and into Full Frame world and swapped from a Nikon D500 into Sony world with the a7IV - all at once! And I was literally just buying a 35 1.4 and 85 1.4 and contemplating getting a 50 1.2 but I didn't want to dish out that much money at once/in a single month, so I just bought the 35 and 85. Tried the 35 on APSC mode and I liked it! Also Sony Eye/Face AF is god damn amazing!!! I love it!
I chose 35mm GM f/1.4 & the next gen. 85mm GM f/1.2 😉 (hopefully arrives in a few months)
The 50mm GM f/1.2 for a 24mm GM f/1.4 shutters 🤷🏻♂️
Still waiting for that 85. Can't believe it's not released yet
Couldn’t stretch to 1.2 money,settled for zeiss f1.8 and am enjoying my 24mm,35mm and 85mm 1.4’s….always look forward to your videos.Tonight’s entertainment will be the A7iv set up video….many many thanks.🙌🏻🙌🏻
Zeiss 1.8 is a beaut too! I’m glad you’re enjoying the content! 🕺🏻
Thanks for this - although to be honest I had to take a good look at the images to notice the differences properly - surprising as I thought at 1.2 there would be a much more defocussed foreground and background than there was.
But... if the samples where donne as a sales pitch specifically to sell the f1.2 50mm; I'm convinced that most compelling differences could have been created (wile remaining honest) in favor of the f1.2 of the 50.
But I "agree".. the first image here (where only the 50's result on monitor is zoomed in to "show/proove the "creamy rendering" makes me actually even doubt that these results, this sequence, has no mistake somewhere. At least there I don't agree that the difference is "visible", at all (even knowing I'm watching only on a smartphone).
(BTW; the "lenscompensations turned off" thing is presented as a smart act and of virtue - presumptions that in my opinion deserved much more attention.
However it's really an excellent video to justify the expenses for the 35 for the (true) amateur (with a cheaper 35 he would need a cheap 50 to match it at f 2.8 for the same total expense. Lol.)
Thanks for doing these videos comparing the crop mode vs full frame field of view. Something you mentioned in the 24 crop vs 35 ff video was that you cant uncrop, the raw data is gone. I noticed this as a tiny negative too, and even though I do use crop for quick extra reach for primes, I also noticed that if I turn on square aspect ratio on my A9 the jpg and viewfinder view is square and "cropped", but it does not erase that data from the raw file, so even though I have the same width as if I used crop mode, I can get a wider view from the raw if I need to reframe it. I know square aspect ratio is different for composition but it's interesting as you can preview your crop, but later crop it less or crop to vertical 2:3 or horizontal 3:2 if you need, and the end resolution is the same as if we used crop mode. More control, if needed, but more storage and processing.
Nice Magic! Always answering the quirky questions that I think in my mind! I don’t know anyone who answers these questions either. Nice job
Haha same minds!
Thanks man. im thinking of buying the 55mm then i realized that they are the same in crop mode. God bless
Great comparison between two popular lenses. I chose 35mm because of its versatility and recently considering having a 50 1.2 gm. Your video does provide valuable information.
big thanks, exactly what I was interested in, on a multi-pixel camera like R3 or a7IV, use 35 as well as 50. I love sharpness and bokeh more than zooms :)
Zawsze byłem fanem zestawu 24mm + 85mm, ale kilka dni temu kupiłem 50mm 1.2 i trochę mi ten obiektyw namieszał w głowie. Próbowałem wrzucić go w najtrudniejsze sytuacje z ogromnym kontekstem i bardzo krzaczastym tłem. Nie rozczarował mnie ani razu. Ani grama aberracji, idealnie kremowe tło. Nawet na 1.2 przy ponad 40mpx z A7R3A jest obłędnie ostry. Podejrzewam, że w tym sezonie nie jeden plener zostanie wykonany w całości tym szkłem 😁
Really good video, hope that one day can see a 35mm f1.2 gm, if so will buy one.
I think for now having 24mm gm + 50mm gm still be my best combination.
My Friend, I know this is a very old video, but how about a comparison of the 1.2 full frame to a 1.2 crop??? And possible up against a 0.95???
Then maybe a 0.95 shootout???
From years of experience, 35mm is much more versatile. If I could take only one prime, it would be a 35/1.4. If you want less DOF you can always move a bit closer to the subject, yes there is more distortion, but acceptable. But in tight spaces, interiour portraits, street photography etc. you often cannot move more far away. You should compare, how both look wide open with the same field of view, both uncropped on a fullframe, just different distance from the subject. It would look much more similar IMHO.
great video my brother, I started this year at sony with the A7iv and ended up buying the GM 35mm 1.4 and I'm happy to know that I actually have two lenses lol, I watched many videos about the 35mm 1.4, including yours, thank you very much for sharing content so good, and congratulations on the beautiful family, God bless you brother.
Great to hear! Hope it will serve you well :)
Thank you very very much for your review. You explained exactly what I needed to know. You ARE great!
Actually, you can achive almost the same looking getting closer with the 35mm, take three or six photos (trying to get the same parts of the image) and blend them in post. That could work in some photoshoot but not for a wedding or something happening fast.
wow this info is so usefull Thank you so much
I'm curious how the 35mm would compare to the 50mm if you moved a little closer instead of cropping.
you would get lens distortion, especially noticeable in portraits.
The 50 1.2 it is a magic lens, and you also have a 75 mm 26 mpx in crop mode, best for portrait in A7RV
I really like these comparison videos! Care to do one that compares 135mm and 85mm in crop mode?
I really like the 1.2, but in the end I couldn't justify the price and stuck with the Sony Zeiss 1.4.
You brought up DOF Simulator now, and I'm playing around with that like I'm 5 years old
Enjoy new toy! 😂
Oh it's definitely helpful, now I'm stuck between two lenses I can't afford, and seeing who has better depth of field
Completely ignoring the fact that I own a Canon 90D (not the best in low light), and that one of them maxes out at f/6.3 😂😂😂😂
Did I mention that I'll need a tripod as well?
Thank you for great comparison. When we have 100Mpx, 35mm f1.2 will replace both :D
haha one to rule them all!
Ha, just found this video after getting rid of my 50 for the 35. Was not enjoying the 1.2 blur at all.
Kept using f2 to 2.8, as the 1.2 looked like Gaussian Blur slapped on in PS.
The 35 lives on my A1 now, in apsc mode.
Heyhey, thank you very much for the comparison, i just subscribed. I am wondering if there would be a sense in comparing the same way the 50mm f/1.2 cropped to the 85mm f/1.4 GM. I just sold my 85mm f/1.4 GM and decided to use my telephoto zoom from the 70mm+ range in general, but considering to get the 50mm GM f/1.2 now to somewhat regain what the 85mm f/1.4 GM had to offer in terms of dreaminess with the flexibility of switching between a wider 50mm and a more close portraitish 75mm.
I’m glad you like it! Yeah, 50GM in aps-c mode should give 77/1.8 equivalent, so close to 85, but more 1.8, which for most cases might be enough. You can probably end up with the same thoughts / decisions to make as with 35 and 50. Unless Sony comes up with 85/1.2 !
Can you compare a 24mm f/1.8 aps-c with the 18mm f/1.8 on Micro 4/3?
35 1.4 APS-C mode will give you a 50 2.0 equivalent.
Got both and sigma 84 1.4 thinking of selling 35 and 85. As i got 16-35 and 70-200. What do you think?
I have a 55 1.8 and a 35 1.4
This may be bit of topic but how do you use the custom buttons in those lenses? The 50mm has two of them and I’m struggling to find use for just one of them. 😂
I only assigned one - for aperture preview that works only in aperture drive focus priority mode when shooting higher f values. But… never used it, not even once 😂
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Haha! That is what I thought. 😂 I never use them eather.
then what about 50 gm crop mode vs 85 gm
:)
and then 85GM vs 135GM :P
I bought myself Samyang 35mm 1.8 on a7 rii with hope of having useful nifty fifty-ish:p and it might have some sense afterall;p
However, I have not been aware that using crop-mode will affect aperture on the lense..:))
Though still having a lense close to 50mm with around 2.8 seems like something one can live with.
Cheers! Thnx for interesting perspective.
In addition to 35mm.f.14 GM I also have 24mm.1.4 GM and 100mm.f.2.8 STF GM so 50mm.f.1.4 GM is not much needed for me!
Great line up! Altough you have a quite a gap between 35 and 100. How about 85?
@@MagicWeddingPhotographerYes, but maybe there will be a new 85mm.f.1.2 GM lens this year and then the price will drop on the 85mm.f.1.4 GM lens and then I might want to buy it at a cheaper price. I have previously owned 85mm.f.1.4, but sold it when I felt it was too heavy to lug around with my other lenses, as I try to make my kit as light as possible without compromising on quality, but with the lenses 24mm.f.1.4 GM and 35mm.f.1.4 GM I have now made my kit less heavy, so there should now be room for 85mm.f.1.4 GM .....
Hi Magic, are you using the lens hood or not?
Hey Stefan! Nah, I don’t! Take take additional space
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer do you use a uv filter to protect the lenses?
Crop mode does NOT affect aperture. 1.2 remains 1.2
1.4 remains 1.4
It doesn’t affect aperture in terms of the amount of light, but it does affect the aperture effect in terms of background blur
Sony has to come up with a 35mm f1.2 like Sigma did.
excactly the test I wanted to do on my 35mm 1.4 lens vs my 55mm 1.8 lens,
35mm gives you way more room to work with, and you can easily get a simular look to the 55mm by just cropping a bit
50mm f1.2 is the best
The "lens-compensations turned off" thing is presented as a smart act and of virtue - with presumptions that in my opinion deserved much more attention.
(I turn them on in camera (viewfinder, monitor playback, (and video), to not have bad surprises when I choose to dial them in wile processing my raw files (I never produce Jpegs).
I have different doubts at the first scene where only the 50' is engaged at the monitor in LR's compare mode. It does absolutely not highlight there as claimed (why?), a striking difference to the 35. I dont see it.
However it's really an excellent video to justify the expenses for the 35 for the (true) amateur. (Since with a cheaper 35 he would need a cheap 50 to match it at f 2.8 - the same total expense.lol. In this case, with (if) that budget, go with the 35 GM)
One could 'quiet easily', without cheating, make/find many results made with the 50 that, I'm still very confident, the 35 could strikingly not match. However this video does show that for "simple" aproches, this comparison is sronishingly doable.
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