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Denver Is Sending Social Workers Instead of Cops to Some 911 Calls
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Denver just launched a program known as the Support Team Assisted Response (STAR). It involves dispatching a Denver Health paramedic and a social worker to minor 911 calls in a low-key van - instead of an armed cop.
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Denver just launched a program known as the Support Team Assisted Response (STAR).
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Nice
Why don't the 'defund the police' and BLM supporters volunteer to be Stars? 🤞🏼
They can do it instead of protesting free of charge and give all the generated refund straight to the criminals uhum I mean mentally challenged people
Nice.
Like why wasn't the front half of this the title for the video? It seems like you guys are literally trying to get some people riled up. Saying this as a Coloradan who doesn't see this as a problem.
@@philosoftfurkitusjunkyard2462 I agree, that being said I support both of those causes and would apply for STARS if I was in a big city.
I live in Eugene, born and raised. I have used cahoots and see the benefits of the program. They do everything from rides to just talking to people. I believe this is what should be done instead of cops being called as the go to.
Free Uber!!! Pay for by your tax money. I thought that's what the buses are for? If the talking works, Eugene will be an Utopia. Sadly it is not and full of tents and services that just attracts everyone and does little to help people become self-sufficient.
I'm sure the cops are more then happy to let others take some of the work load.
Too bad Portland won't use Cahoots. It seems like Portland, Oregon needs a smaller police presence right now. I hope your Governor can kick those federal officers out of Portland.
i live in denver. i’m so proud of my city for doing this. the fact this is a new thing is sad. it’s logic 101? no?
From Eugene, also. Hoping to see the Cahoots model spread.
having trained professionals like social workers work directly with cops is something that needs to be implemented everywhere. The mental health professional can diffuse the situation and alleviate any tension, in case that person is an actual fucking psycho the cop is there to help keep the mental health professional safe.
you are so far ahead! Certain calls will definitely always warrant a hybrid model @11:40
But we don't need cops right?
Well like the video said, the social workers only require police backup on 1% of calls. I work in emergency psychiatric care. I can very easily de-escalate an agitated and potentially violent person who is having a mental health crisis without laying a hand on them, I do it all the time. Police can't, they're not trained to. We should all stick to what we're trained to do.
@Dreamstate ... Ummm, it's actually cheaper to send a MH professional with a cop than it is to send two cops.
Yeah until they start getting killed, who you gonna blame then?
This is actually good. It means that Cops will have more time to focus on actual crime.
Hopefully cops will have fewer people to harm too now.
In floriduh cops get a kickback for taking people to the nuthouse and they make a sick person feel like a criminal. They cause PTSD just to make money.
Defunding the police will pave the way for privatization of the police. Who can afford private police? Wealthy globalists. Who can't? The rest of us.
I Sa shut up
@@lapinchechismosa he's right tho, don't tell him to shut up if you got nothing to say against his statement
This could really save a LOT of disabled and mentally ill people who all too often get brutalized and murdered by the police. Imagine being shot by the police because you were attacked for ‘resisting arrest’ when you’re deaf and never saw them coming? Or like my older brother- having a seizure and then being repeatedly tased during the fit.
My brother has extreme mental illness and the cops have come out probably more than 75 times and never there has been an incident. He's been in and out of Mental Hospitals all his life. the system does not work for people. Don't respect authority or the police and try to attack and kill them these are the people that system does not work for
@@tammylynn1117 are you saying we should attack and murder cops?
@@tammylynn1117 Of course this program/system wouldn't help everyone, but it'll help more than not having the system. Just because of your experience, doesn't mean its wrong for everybody else.
@@tammylynn1117 I don't think you should say that we should murder cops. Very dangerous thinking.
yes 💗
Do they also handle "Karen Calls", ?
Asking for my neighbor and my aunt
Karen calls should be handled by police, at least the majority, but they aren't... 🤷🤷
I think so.. Cause Karenism is a mental health problem so social workers should definitely show up but if they are combative then the Police should get involved..lol..ijs..Love love
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@@jablazin9516 "Karenism" :-D
Who is this “Karen” Person and what have they done?
Well I almost died of an asthma attack in my university because when I called 911 they sent the police instead of an ambulance. Long story short that delayed my care by about 15 minutes and I ended up needed to be intubated. Before someone says oh you should’ve had your inhaler, not only did I have my inhaler I had my nebulizer and I had done 3 treatments and it didn’t work. That’s why I called 911.
thanks for sharing your story. sorry that happened.
They probably sent police because you were low on emt list they probably had other more serious life threatening cases to deal with
Damn... I can't imagine 🤦 I had an episode last December, but I got myself to the ER because nothing worked just like yourself... To have 15 minutes delay can feel like a lifetime. I'm glad you are here to tell your story.
Unfortunately, a lot of small towns and cities spend a lot more money on the police department instead of ambulances, so cops will get to you faster than an ambulance can if there aren't enough ambulances. I hope this program works.
Omg
My psychology teacher told me this story about her family that was diabetic. He was driving and didnt check blood sugar and was driving like a drunk person. If it was any police who didnt recognize the signs he would have been dead while going to jail.
End the failed war on drugs. 80 percent of the problems would be solved.
@J IDK man. In today's society if you want to get high you can get high. It is really just simple economics where you price out illegal drug dealers out of the market.
@J theres a lot of evidence to the contrary
Yeah. Also the drug laws we have are just ridiculous. You get a higher sentence using crack rock compared to powder. Why? Because black people prefer rocks.
Mass Incarceration aka Modern Day Slavery via Petty Drug Charges
Sir Rivet have to disagree. I participated in writing a brief to the Eighth Circuit back in the early 90s which argued that the crack-powder disparity was racist. I knew it was a very weak argument. The chief judge of the panel, a black guy appointed by a Democrat, was most dismissive of the argument. When crack came out in a big way, congressional black caucus was all for the harsh sentencing of crack offenders because they wanted the drug out of their constituents’ neighborhoods. When crack was first popular, everyone thought it was going to destroy its users. The congressmen did not want their constituents dead or destroyed. Like almost all of society’s ills, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. However, I do question the intentions of the Congressional Black Caucus today. Why don’t they advocate of an end to the war on drugs? Any policy maker who does not support an end to the war has either blinded themselves to the evidence or is acting out or political self-interest. Either way, today’s politicians have way more blood on their hands than the cops, the KKK, and every other evil that has fallen on the black community since 1900. Ironically, Trump, through the passage of the First Step Act has done more in this regard than any black politician has public ally advocated. Still, a lot needs to get done. First, end the war on drugs. Second, pardon all non-violent drug offenders.
As someone who has volunteered in for profit halfway homes for the mentally and emotionally incapable, I vote to reduce the for profit and increase not for profit homes and state hospitals
I agree, but I have worked for a few supposedly not for profit human services jobs. Idk if the " not for profit" part helps. They always run it like a business.
Shya $2000 a week is ridiculous beyond belief. ( An actual $ amount btw) 😳🤨😬🤢
@Jolt Soyo ended what?
I love this! I work in mental health care at a psychiatric crisis treatment center in Nashville, we have a sort of hybrid of this. Police generally do respond to the calls (psychotic episodes, interrupted suicide attempts, drug addicts disturbing people, etc) but instead of taking the people to jail or the hospital they bring them to us. The police spend an average of 9 minutes per call transferring the patients to us and it has saved our city a ton of money and has saved our police officers countless headaches. And the sick people get real help. Regardless of your position on the police, they are not mental health care workers and they shouldn't be expected to fulfill that role. Let them take care of the criminals, and let us take care of the mentally ill.
As an EMT I wholeheartedly agree with this! They need body armor though.
@@RobespierreThePoof maybe they could wear some kind of thin kevlar vest under their uniforms?
E M S i think police officers should dress more casually and then wear protective equipment over the top as some police in london do
Ya great tell they start getting stabbed and shot
@@lewishopper6943 worked security and with police officers. I say no. They need armor.
Basically closer to being a cop with body armor
Cops should never be the ones to answer wellness checks, leave that to the ones actually in that proffession
This is a long process to change police brutality with defunding the police and in the long run it could help, it's something we have to aim towards to make our own communitys safe. In the long run it saves lives and helps communities, it's worth it to implement changes because whats been done has obviously not been working.
Never say never. Many cases of wellness checks leading to the discovery of kidnapped youth and violent situations.
When i worked security in Chilliwack BC Canada we did wellness checks all the time. I ended up saving 3 lives performing CPR and using Narcan for overdoses. Security wellness check was simple wake the person up and ask them if there ok if you can't wake them up its a medical emergency. If you wake them up and they attack you, you defend yourself and arrest them for assault which i ended up doing once. If there sleeping on private property that there not allowed to be you wake them up and ask them to leave. If they refuse as security we removed them by force if needed if they resisted we arrested them. We mostly dealt with homeless and addicts.
they kill more than they help
@@sargentpepper8931 sure lol
Right! Super simple model. Social worker first and if they have further suspicion then call the police to investigate but help alongside the social worker. 🤷🏿♂️ Just makes sense!
I have been telling everyone for years this is how it should be! I work in social service jobs. So many times we deal with violent people and remind them if this happens in a public setting the cops could kill you because they are scared. I would rather be bitten or punched a few times and save a person in crisis! Maybe they will pay social services workers like cops!
No this isn’t how it should be. You’re gonna get killed. And you don’t have any authority and won’t be able to control someone. Also... do you think police get paid well?
@Trying Times I've known people who were hurt as social workers. I had to restrain violent teens for two years.If its to much for social worker to handle, they call the police just like always. I've had teenagers threaten to stab me, bite hard enough to draw blood, been spit on a million times, punched. Had huge chunks of hair tore out. At no time did I ever wish I had a gun! That's the dumbest idea ever. We did everything possible to not call the police.
@@CountryKyle007 they get way more than social workers!! And we can give them athority! Its obvious police don't want to deal with people with mental health problems. They aren't capable. They already should call mental health professionals and be aware of that issue and they don't . its safer for everyone to do it this way. And it creates jobs.
@@mr.wookiesack people seem to forget the idea of bringing someone with a weapon means the other person is more likely to use a weapon. If an animal acts agressive to another, and the other one stay passive, the aggressive animal will typically back down.
@@bok.. OMG yes! The authoritarian attitude ruins interactions from the start! I supervised a group emotionally disturbed children Meeting a police officer. Most of the kids were young, but many had the police called on them and we tried to show kids cops are helpfull. He had to abort his intro pretty quick. Kids started touching his gun and pepper spray on his belt, he almost had to run away. I couldn't stop kids fast enough. He didn't know how to react. It went awful.
I think this is awesome. Mental illness is not a crime. We need this everywhere
As far as mentally ill doesn’t stab/kill someone, lol
@@sunnesonne they are far less likely to if they aren't being threatened by roided up men with guns
No but things mental ill people may do are crimes
I have a couple correction officer friends. They say atleast 25% of inmates have mental illness.
Its all great until criminals start killing social workers.
We have something like this in Anchorage, AK called the Safety Patrol that is funded through the city's Health and Human Service Department.
US is a police nation so something like this may be unheard of. This activity is something most of Western European countries do. They send social workers/mental health professionals for such emergencies not police. There is also a law that can fine someone who calls police for unjustified reason.
@@Bettie_Rage
I agree with the "send health workers sometimes instead". When and why do people get fined though?
Like one time at a nearly empty bus stop an angry fat homeless man started swearing obscenities and shadow boxing near a husband and wife and their baby in a baby stroller. I thiught he might be violently crazy so I called the cops on him. The police officer ended up having a sternly worded talk with him telling him to cut that s**t out.
Could I have risked being fined under one of those Western European countries' laws?
@@SurprisinglyDeep I'm gonna go ahead and say no, you wouldn't be fined.
@@Bettie_Rage It doesn't exist in EU LMAO
@@bobbuilder767 The law does exist. Not in every EU country though. You can be fined for calling police for bullshit. Treated the same as calling police as a joke, fake bombs, etc.
Also there are mental health teams and crisis teams for vulnerable people in UK. They send them instead of police. For example when someone feels suicidal or like self harming. I know because few of people I know received such help when police was called.
Now send this to Aurora and send the murderers that cut short the life of Elijah McClain to prison
@Sy S damn bro you're so edgy and cool
Sy S well duh you Nazis think all non Nazis deserve death.
@Sy S why do you think he deserved it?
CB O don’t be dumb. he can’t handle a conversation. obviously just a troll.
Elijah McClain deserved it
California is in need of a program like this in a huge way!
S/O OC
Yeah just increase the cost of living there even more...
California needs a damn exorcism!
Yeah we are in desperate need of a program like this. We're a huge state with a huge populace and cops obviously can't handle every situation.
California is implementing a program like this as this video was being watched. There's already a few located in Oakland and San Francisco. The individuals involved are strictly volunteer and receive no pay for their work. They do it just to improve their communities. Hopefully their work and the data they collect will benefit this state and they can be paid for their efforts.
Well this actually changed my mind about this concept of not deploying the police. It is not, as pushed by this narrative, directly a call to defund the police, but rather to better resource the law and order (public institutional) response to low and no risk calls, disturbances, and problems.
Couldn’t have said it better!
John Proctor But that’s the problem; the wording matters. It’s the sending out the wrong message. Like BLM, the cause is good but the opposition is not reading the cause but the actual wording of the cause.
@@Taintedwings4444 BLM as a movement and an organization is very different than the statement of fact that "black lives matter". Its quite rational to agree wjth the statement of fact that black lives matter while not supporting the extremist philosophy of Marxism associated with the movement. The BLM organization/movements leadership have all come out and documented, on record stated that they are trained Marxists who "are using the black community to progress a Marxist agenda". Black cultural values and Marxism are two very, very different things and in a lot of ways directly oppose one another. Also, its quite contradictory to be condemning police brutality while supporting Marxist philosophy. The CCP was founded on Marxist principals in 1921 and is the most brutal police/governmental regime in all of human history. If you want to see Marxism in action look no further than China who regularly force harvests the organs of prisoners of conscious, primarily from Falun Gong practitioners (buddhists) but also from muslims and GBLTQ individuals. The CCP operates numerous modern day concentration "labor" camps. The CCP has murdered more than 150 million people, far surpassing the death toll from the nazi regime. So.......I feel like a lot of people blindly supporting the BLM movement do not understand how it is being politicized in the background because its actually largely supporting policies, politicians and bills that actively progress and increase oppression. Biden is one US politician who directly benefits financially from the CCPs organ harvesting industry.
Exactly! I work in emergency psychiatric care. I can easily de-escalate an agitated, psychotic and potentially violent person without laying a hand on them. I do it all the time, it's what I'm trained to do. Police are trained to take care of violent people who cannot be dealt with without some degree of force. We should all stick to what we're trained to do. Us mental health care workers want to be more involved in this! It helps our communities and especially our patients.
@@ISa-jy8ol wow. Q in the house!! Biden harvests organs?!
I think the emphasis on the question, “Is this defund the police?”, is a bit misplaced. The bigger question is whether or not this is effective. My impression is it certainly can be.
I think it serves a purpose in showing the reality of what defunding the police can look like.
Defund the police and this people will start getting shot.
finally some real rational reforms that could solve alot of the policing problems
Sending armed cops to every encounter is already an unnecessary escalation.
The cops carry those just in case, most days they never touch it.
@@YorktownUSA the guns are openly displayed, by design. Their presence is the threat of violent escalation. That's the whole point of guns.
YorktownUSA People are not robots dude.
@@JimJamTheAdmin what's your point? Only criminals would have to worry about that. People can openly carry guns too... well, in real American states. Point is community is key. In a fractured community, NOBODY trusts each other and that includes cops.
@@Bri32675 meaning?
I'm very conservative and agree with this approach. We have a homeless issue in my city. The liberal city council tolerates it without attempting to find a solution. Citizens call and complain if the homeless are close to their business or residence. The police are dispatched, often repeatedly to the same location, interacting with the same people. They can't arrest them (the city council won't allow it), only ask them to move on, which they do, to return later. Citizens are mad at the police because they didn't do anything and the police are in a Catch-22. They have to respond, yet can't do anything and in reality they don't want to arrest them for being homeless and police aren't in the mental health field. This circular process ties up a lot of police resources that can be better used elsewhere. Social workers are better equipped to handle these types of issues. Police aren't inherently bad, I think politicians pass laws without thinking what enforcement looks like on the street level and it place law enforcement in no win situations. When domestic violence laws were passed in my state, police weren't trained for anything other then breaking up the disturbance, arresting someone and moving on. There wasn't ( and still isn't ) someone to work with the victim at the scene about resources for personal safety and what steps to take next. Police aren't trained in that and a social worker would be a good resource allowing law enforcement to move to the next scene.
aaand all of those lost people funnel into california because of situation and our liberal politics. Super happy that my crazy high tax dollars go to fixing a problem you pushed aside .
If they are on the sidewalk, that's public property and they are allowed to be there. Can't just round them up and put them in a shelter.
@@KillerAJ Exactly and I'm not advocating that. I'm speaking to the fact that it consumes law enforcement resources that could be allocated elsewhere.
@@Henryplant What do you mean we pushed aside? Many of these people are from California.
@@weirdshibainu not many that I have interviewed for a doc I'm working on. It only takes a year to become a california resident and that skews the statistics on where these people are from.
The cops and fire love it...less BS calls for them to deal with
This is a very good thing. I was given a ticket for being on medication and it was totally wrong. Police at a mental crisis giving a ticket to me was totally wrong
It seems all these mental health crisis calls emotionally and mentally wear policemen down (contributing to increased police brutality cases) espeically since most communities' policemen don't have the training or resources to deal with them
S.T.A.R needs to be in Every city.
This is actually good program
still far from ready.. but since not every call can be respone.. so had police ready with a gun would not end up well...
I learned about this tactic in my social work classes. I can’t believe I am actually seeing this happen. I believe this will work. People need to be heard more instead of putting handcuffs on them
I’m going for my MSW at the University of Denver!
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This is what your career will be so hopefully you wanted to be a police officer
Me too! :) I’ll graduate with my BSW in Spring. Then I’m pursuing a MSW There!
These guys need to get paid like cops or better.
No. They do not respond to potentially deadly situations.
@@mauidano13 Cops sometimes make a non-deadly situation into a deadly one.
@@juusan8078 you more likely to die in the hands of a civilian than a cop and thats a statistical fact unless your in mexico than yea cops will make situations deadly
@@mauidano13 then why dont military members make more?
Jonas Eyana because they get free everything and free job experience. Show me a country on the face of the earth where they pay their military better than ours with the same benefits
Now you better triple their salary and finally realized how important social workers are for society.
Excellent video! I am a social worker in Queens NY and I believe our community would benefit from this project
growing up I always wanted to be a cop, I even went to college for criminal justice. However after realizing the realities of policing in America and also after taking my courses I decided against it.
however, after seeing this program, STARS and CAHOOTS I can only dream of having a chance to be involved in a program like these!
yeah these people will end up getting shot
@ilovepancakeswithjam no by criminals these high crime neighborhoods aren't going to fixed themselves
I was a homeless traveling kid in my late teens and early twenties and as such I've dealt with police all across the country and always had pretty decent encounters with colorado cops in general. Even ten years ago the denver police were some of the chillest people who've ever kicked me out of a camping spot.
They'd always enquire about my well-being and tell me spots that they didn't enforce camping laws, then give me a list of shelters and send me on my way.
All it takes is a violent encounter and this program will be gone mark my words
Idk how they are going to deal with belligerent drunks who like to get physical.
ReaptheWhirlwind I’ll tell you how it’s gonna end.::.that social worker is gonna get hurt and sue the city
Exactly what I thought. They should send the police first, and the police can decide if a social worker is needed.
Romeo26 based on what information?also who’s to say they haven’t already dealt with this. Doctors and paramedics have to deal with aggressive people and situations all the time, and yet we don’t get as many killings or assaults on their end
Oh boy did these comments make me laugh. I'm an EMT. Medics deal with violent patients all the time. They deal with drunk people, and people on drugs. With the cops, or without the cops, it all just depends on the situation. You are all so unbelievably conditioned to think that the solution is policing that you didn't stop to think that this would be absolutely nothing new for that paramedic.
OMG as a cop, YES!! We are tired of these calls. Lol. PLEASE defund us. Or get us way, way more training and better wages if you want us to wear “multiple hats”.
Resident evil beginning stars.
This guys got the right idea. Denver is like 5 times bigger but it's in the Midwest just like raccoon city.
oh GAWD IT IS THE END OF THE WORLD, I NEED HERBS
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So we just need to add an s..
Specialists?
Safeguards?
Squad?
Service?
Something..
I AM SO GLAD I WASN’T THE ONLY WHO IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF RE ❤️
This is great to see. May God bless them and protect them.
Social workers may be appropriate for "some" incidents, but the problem is, they may not be prepared for what they encounter on the scene. I like the idea of a standardized counselorenforcement co-op in the field; many agencies, especially SWAT, have already been using this approach for decades or more. It is not a new concept.
its not a new concept, but sadly it was not being used
You're right, but right now they are sending police officers into incidents that they are definitely not prepared and trained for, and it often ends very badly
Juuldebuul exactly, it’s the same both ways. Neither of them should be doing each other’s job, but whereas her lack of abilities as a cop would only get her in trouble, a cop trying to do her job could hurt a lot more people
Juuldebuul training for high stress calls is something I was wondering about too. About halfway through video she says she’s never had police backup/assistance but, I can’t help but think it only takes one time. Even if you rarely have combative situations I feel behavioral, mental, coping etc. training needs to happen. I’m glad she agreed that more proper mental health training is key.
@@TheDexsword Not being used by "some" agencies. I try to avoid using definitive terms, but I would go so far to say that "most" law enforcement officers are trained, skilled-in, and gain one-on-one experience every day on the job regarding mediation and interpersonal relations.
This is horrible... I live in mcallen tax where 2 cops got murdered....they went to a domestic disturbance call and got ambushed and got shot threw the door... now imagine if this was a social worker!!!
Did you even watch the video? She’s been going in to situations similar to what she’s doing now for her whole career without law enforcement. They answer low risk calls specifically for people experiencing mental or behavioral health issues. This is what they do everyday. Do you really think they are just going to substitute out cops in every situation for social workers and medics??
Side note: Why is the chief of police not wearing a mask in that interview or in the protests? Masks protect others, which is core to police missions/mottos.
The Denver chief of police is kind of a massive shitbag. Might have something to do with it.
Several cities in California have had these programs for years. In San Diego it's called PERT.
I live in San Diego and I've never heard of them. I'm looking for a career change so I'll look them up.
Tbh, if they're from DHS, I would rather have a cop sent to my house
Being from Colorado and a minority there is not a huge problem with cops. Yet I appreciate trying change for better.
Bryan
They were speaking from statistics not individually numbers.
God bless America!
Ok.
@@it3897 I was born the us just as u. Plus it doesn't matter what race you are we live in a country in which the land was stolen from the natives. Also slavery essentially build the U.s. plus your comment applies to yourself go back to where your ancestors came from.
Don’t feed the trolls
Just by them telling vice, not to film their encounter makes this video legit..
Rights if they do it goes against HIPPAA
I think the most logical thing to do would have police departments add social workers who also receive police training to their force. It seems working together they could do a lot of good.
That would require more funding on the police part. Training programs aren't cheap
This happened with a family member of mine and the Social Worker got him help. There have been years of calls to police, but they were not able to get him help. I fully support this change.
Are they insane?I was a Social Worker for 2 decades in San Francisco. This will not end well.
what a joke
I know, aggressively policing people who aren’t aggressive and might just be having a mental health crisis is a joke... I know from personal experience living in Eugene
@first last in a way yes. But some are immediately dangerous and others are not. Police are not appropriate and shouldn't have to deal with every single problem in a community. I've seen Cahoots deal with people in non-dangerous mental health crisis situations in downtown Eugene many times. They just calmly talk with them about what's going on and get them to a facility that can help them. The police would probably have just been ready to put them in jail which would scare anyone in a mental health crisis and just lead to more problems.
You should try this in Chicago or Detroit. It should go well.
The police are for the violent crime, these guys are for mental health emergences.
it actually will, when social workers help the mentally ill, if those cities are as dangerous as you say shouldn't the cops focus on actual crime.
Did this fool even watch the video lol. The lady who leads this talked about this, and said its not really a problem
Here in my city of Eugene Oregon, cahoots is a blessing for many. We have a wide range of homeless people who need meds but don't get the help if they are just thrown in jail & released hours later in the same situation as they were. Cahoots can be a link between someone and hope. I seen them giving out water & food to random homeless this morning. They drive around and look for tje people that most people run from. People who everyone assumes are high, drunk or drugged up and pass by as quickly as possible. Cahoots will listen and help. Some people will understand what I mean. The rest of the people speculating that this is dumb etc...I pray them or a loved one never have to be in a spot where you need to get help because you don't have it.
Probably something that makes the most sense... You won't send a plumber to fix your car
I think this could work with some issues, but I think 99% of 911 calls require a trained, armed police officer that is prepared for a potentially dangerous situation. Because you don't actually know that the situation is safe until it has been addressed and defused. I think the only time you can send a social worker instead of cop is in a situation where there is an absolute certainty that there is no physical danger
WOW! This is very positive devolopment! Very happy to see!
As soon as there’s a violent assault it will be shelved.
@Catherine B I worked as a social worker for almost 10 years before I switched over to teaching. The majority of social workers I worked with were other women. There’s not a single woman that HASNT been attacked/assaulted on the job.
I am assaulted more as a TEACHER than I ever was as a social worker.
Literally doesn’t matter to anyone, and we still will show up to do our jobs.
@@valeyard6650 Where do you teach?
I agree. Something like this is done in Stockton CA. The police department are doing more work because of the social workers getting assaulted. So instead of having one victim, now you have 2 or 3. Like you said wait till something goes south.
I couldn't agree with you more.
I personally think the police should be trained to deal with mental health, the reason why is because a normal "disturbance" call could easily turn into the star getting killed.
It’s more likely that people will get killed if the police are involved
The Video mentioned that the STAR workers only had to call for police backup 1% of the time. When a mental health situation is deemed too violent, a STAR worker doesn't even get called out, it goes directly to the cop to take care of.
Many agencies are trained in mental health just a FYI but the training varies from department to department.
Abby Flores please give a reference before you eat crow. That’s strait up lie...
Dj Walk it’s common sense when men with guns show up to a home where there is a person whom is mentally unstable and they try to “detain” (handcuff) the person to investigate what do you think the outcome will be? Use the brain god gave you! I studied psychology there are literally 100s of mental disorders one of them is depression and cops are not equipped to deal with that nor do they want to.
This is great!! I really hope they continue this program after the initial 6 months! They should have this program all across Colorado! Yay, I’m proud of my state for doing this!
Thought social workers were juggling too much already.
They are struggling because they are under funded.. defunding the police will free up the money social workers need to hire more people.
Hire more social workers, teachers etc. and divert unnecessary funds from the police.
Defunding the police will pave the way for privatization of the police. Who can afford private police? Wealthy globalists. Who can't? The rest of us.
@@BarleeCarlee Defunding the police will only give organized crime massive advantages
Agreed. In addition, what makes people think that the "expense" of public safety will decrease just by swapping one profession (law enforcement) with another (psychology)? Once all the officers have had enough of this b.s. and retire or resign, do you really think that medical graduates are going to settle for the shitty pay that most officers receive to do their job? If you are facing imminent danger to yourself or to your loved ones, would you rather have a trained enforcer or a trained head doctor show up when you dial 911?
Bout time! Every city needs this program. Not every problem needs to be solved with a gun.
This is essentially a mobile crisis program. Some counties have them, some don't. I used to work as a crisis worker in such a program, and the greatest thing that we did was prevent escalation into arrests or involuntary hospitalizations. Cops loved working with us, and the people loved us more than the cops (for a good portion of people).
There's nothing out-of-this-world about the training needed to get good people doing these jobs. It's intuitive if you're a good person, and it seems like you either have it or you don't. These programs need to be bolstered so that good people find themselves in these jobs and can be comfortable financially speaking. The pay is awful for the amount of work and the hours being worked.
these people role playing as emergency responders are going to get a rude awakening in the streets *aaaaaaaaaylmaaaaaaaaaaao*
what do you suggest?
@@therealspeciesunknownikr, come with a solution instead of more negativity. There always has to be at least one brave soul to start the movement.
? One of the dudes is literally a paramedic?
@@soymilkman and what is a paramedic going to do ? talk them out of it ? yea i don't think so
@@therealspeciesunknown i suggest keep the whole police system the same because the police might just save your life one day from someone who could be armed and want to kill you lmao
The world needs more people like these amazing social workers. It's refreshing to hear from people who can understand nuanced issues, and have skills to address them rather than reaching for their guns.
Hopefully they don't get hurt or killed, but given enough time it's sure to happen.
Unfortunately, yes. People who do these jobs understand that risk, and it will happen eventually. But i'm not jacking off over the idea like some of the folks in these comments 😄
People getting hurt is bound to happen whatever the activity, you have to look at the data and evaluate whether or not less people get hurt overall. Some proffessions are risky and these social workers should be compensated at least as well as police officiers (they probably have more training as well). I'm tired of police officiers forgetting they enrolled willingly, that they get compensated rather well for the risks they take and that they pledged to protect the public. Why would you become a police officier if you refuse to take any risk and value the protection of your life above anything else, just take up another job (just to be clear, I'm not saying they shouldnt defend themselves, but that shooting people preventively because there is a very small chance they might perhaps hurt you or pull a gun out of their ass because you couldnt see their hand for 0,1 sc is unreasonable and a complete refusal to take any kind of risk in order to help the public)
her recognizing how a police uniform alone can complicate a persons mental situation... she gets it.
So awesome, I'm super proud of my city for trying to find a different way to helping our homeless brothers and sisters.
This is definitely the best solution I have seen so far in addressing the 911 issue.
This is soooooo logical!!
Until they respond to a mentally unstable individual with a weapon and get hurt or worse.
Penguin Gaming that’s what the actual cops are for.
@@sirrivet9557 exactly...
@@sirrivet9557 hes saying u cant teleport the correct individual to the situation because of a lack of critical information or other factors. Worse comes to worse you have social workers showing up to a gunfight because the information given to 911 wasn't good, or that during a home invasion a victim cant articulate the threat and people think its a domestic dispute etc.
Ethan M. Yeah and the current worst come to worst is cops escalating situations, beating up or murdering a disabled or mentally impaired person. How about we leave it to the data to decide since both worse case scenarios would be awful
I honestly believe this could work but Why would u not show the encounter to get the full effect of program. Just blur faces
I agree, but they were most likely responding to a situation were the person has mental health issues. And the social worker needs to convey rapport with said person (or whatever that term is called), so it's probably detrimental to have a guy with a camera pointing at said individual.
They're not "Cops", were the TV Crew ride and run with the police after suspects who committed crime(s) or violent offenses.
I think this is a great idea. Cops aren't cut out for social services calls.
Nemesis Voice: STARS!
my thought the moment I saw the name STARS, like, "We gonna have Resident Evil, next in 2020
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The virus has already been leaked!
I'm going to start a pharmacy in Denver and name it umbrella 😂
Notice how the interviewer constantly pushes an anti-police pov while the people he is interviewing is saying the complete opposite
How is he doing that? He asks about diverting funds for other services which is what his interview subjects are talking about?
@@user-ot6jh2vt1x Small details matter, his questions and nods to certain responses shows the biases he holds
lol the women literally said that this partly is defunding the police at around 9:50
We’ve had this for years in San Diego. They are called P.E.R.T. Units. Several clinicians ride with various officers each shift. They are then dispatched to various mental health calls. They help make medical & mental decisions and whether or not to transport to a hospital for just “an evaluation” or an actual “51/50” 72 hour hold.
We need this, I hope to see more states implement this in the future
This is a great idea for low crime areas. However, in high crime areas it may be problematic and potentially fatal.
I wouldn't call Denver a "safe" city, really interested to see how this plan goes in a large metro area.
Safe as compared to dozens of others.
This is the video I’m going to send to people when they react with utter shock when I say “defund the police”
This just started, wait a bit for it to mature, and you'll see all the social workers calling this a mistake
probably try say "reallocate funding of the police" instead of "defund", you guys keep saying "defund" even though you actually mean just reallocating funds from the cops. if you truly mean that police departments should outright get defunded then don't bother sending this to people since you won't actually change their views, would probably just think your suffering from some sort of mental disability
Don't defund the police!!! Defunding the police opens the door for privatization of the police. Who can afford private police? The wealthy elite. Who cannot? Everybody else. This is CLASS warfare and the outcome of defunding the police will only result in worse oppression.
Use the funding to advance police training in effective ways. Train the police to work better with social workers, to have advanced conflict resolution skills, use it to create more tangible resources for the mentally ill, for drug addicts and for homeless populations - such as sobrr tiny home communities for the homeless (give them paying jobs with government benefits building this communities and rehabilitating their own communities to get on their feet), make more $available for addicts to go to effective, nice rehabs, make more permanent housing situations for the mentally ill and disabled populations that help foster independence while still providing supervision and daily basic needs like meals and medications. We dont need social workers being cops. They aren't cops.
No one is addressing the issues in social work. We now have two problematic authorities teaming up against the people
Well lets be honest, these duties aren't necessarily the job of the police, they were foisted on to PD after most of these support agencies were gutted.
This is exactly what we need
honestly she should get a fast-track police academy for martial arts, codes, etc.
A rookie officer was sent for a wellness check in Arlington, TX last year. The women was laying on a towel in the grass with her dog. The officer shot at the dog rushing him killing the women in the cross fire. The women's father who was the local fire captain responded. The officer was sentenced to 2 years. I can say with certainty if a social worker went out instead of the officer the chance of the women being alive would be significantly increased if not guaranteed.
All police departments across the nation should have these programs, allows the police to focus on real crime, while professional provide real mental health counseling to people in need!!!
The person to person connection even for a second makes a huge difference we just need to be invested in one another.
This is the first time I’ve seen someone READY and TRAINED to jump into these 911 calls. This solution is so obvious. Defund the police and fund mental health services. 👏👏👏
Are you going to call social workers if someone breaks into your house armed and ready to kill?
Jerry Martinez I could get a weapon I’m not waiting for cops
I'm sure that social workers are well trained and fully capable of handling domestic abuse and mental health assistance. But that must be news to so many who have called for a social worker. The long list of absolutely atrocious social worker behavior and complaints of no assistance or support are long and sad. Everyone knows of how social workers are so overwhelmed and have stacks and stacks of cases that they can never adequately attend to. How many stories have we heard of abused children being put back into abusive home, after multiple teach and neighbor reports of abuse, only to be murdered by their abusers?
Funnily enough this is something already in use here in the UK in different formats, they're basically rapid response cars with a paramedic and a mental health Nurse, some have a police officer aswell.
They respond to mental health crisis in the community basically.
Brilliant stuff, all we need now is more RMNs specifically Male RMNs in hospitals as a start.
RMN is Registered Mental health Nurse btw, I'm a Nursing Assistant myself.
my neighbour could use this and save cops time (schitzophrenic)
Even more proof that the police can’t be relied on. 👍
Respectful question, just wondering how does this program save money? I’d like to think that social workers (all of which are required to have a degree) would have to get paid quite a bit more than their police counterparts, and thus it would cost more to send them out. Idk though 🤷♂️
How many 40k a year social workers will elect to do this? Particularly in the rough areas of town. Will there be hazard pay? Volunteer only? Money would have to be diverted from the police budget to pay for this? Lots of questions…
I think the 911 dispatch system is controlled by law enforcement. That is why the police answer all the calls to justify their existence. It needs to operate a a separate entity.
What happens after the interaction on the social workers part, do they just leave them to where ever they want to go? The follow up has to be important, there has to be infrastructure to support them long term and if not your just putting a band-aid on the problem. This is a first great step but there has to be long term help and incentives to get back to being a healthy and productive person again. I would love to see a VICE series on point of contact to help and services rendered, to long term follow up. I have seen programs like this in Providence RI. where they provide these kinds of services and work with all the municipalities for a cohesive service to help those who are in crisis. One such company is the Providence center. A blend of public and private funds to help the community and its vulnerable.
We need to use more tools...the problem with law enforcement is, we use it for everything..."When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail..."
And the Police who have been thinking about resigning are now going to social worker calls. The local street sweepers are now janitors and Teachers have became nurses. WTF
As a school psychologist students, this is so hopefully. It needs to be adopted in all areas of the USA if we want to see real change. Mental health is extremely important, even a small change like this can change so many peoples lives. God speed to these social workers.
REPLACE THE TYRANTS W CIVILIANS THAT ACTUALLY CARES !!!
@Brad Evans I DO ENOUGH.
WHAT ABOUT YOU?
When in doubt, I've always found this helps: STAR Fox, do a barrel roll!
Deputy Zackari Parrish
Killed December 31, 2017. Buried January 5th, 2018.
Killed by mental unstable u.s veteran whom was experiencing an extreme episode of PTSD. He tried to be his friend man, he talked to him the same way he wouldve talked to a homie of his, like they had known eachother for years. The mental health expert on scene with him and his fellow officers couldnt see the warning signs that something very very bad was about to happen. Body Cam, season 1 episode 10. Available on hulu through investigation discovery. His murder is a prime example why we need to not only NOT defund the police, but to REFORM our outlook on what police should be responding to. To protect and to serve. RIP
Yes exactly, defund the police and reallocate the money to programs like STAR or give cops better training to handle calls like those
If I was getting arresting for drugs and there was a hippy lady in a Phish shirt there to calm me down I'd probably be even MORE upset. Just saying.
Good idea, BAD pitch/execution, Ex. Say someone at a party who is under the influence of something, and he/she pulls out a lethal weapon. What are they gonna do, talk him/her down? What if that does not work? Run him/her over with the van? I know there are other options but having Paramedics and Social Workers, (CIVILIANS), go out to POSSIBLY dangerous emergency/disturbance calls is not a very SMART nor practical. Police are there to do there jobs, granted sometimes they don't do them well, they are there for safety let them do there jobs, and make sure they do them
properly, because "De-Funding" the police will lead to bad training, worse tactics and other situations that WILL lead to WAY worse outcomes then one dying/being killed. And so coming to this quote, A Single Death is a Tragedy; a Million Deaths is a Statistic, and also rather than implementing NEW systems I think we should Re-Think our current systems, visa vi LEO and all people in blue.
Well I dont know where the funding is going because they are badly trained anyways. It seems to me that everything is spent on self preservation at all cost and nothing on how to help people, why not take another job then?
Perfect for Santa Cruz, CA! Sooo many homeless and untreated mentally ill here.
In Canada, they send psych nurses with cops who are specially trained in mental health
As someone with bipolar since about preschool age and autism since birth, as well as other mental health issues, I've had police called many times when I was a kid/teen and as adult as well for various reasons. It's scary to see them as as a kid you're told they take bad people to jail and as you get older, you're aware of how much can go wrong in interactions with them, all because you think and act differently, can't control your actions, people dont understand you. I love this idea and hope it goes nation wide!