It is insane that Disney ditched all the outlines made by George Lucas (that make a story that makes way more logical sense) only to make a story with a Discount Luke Skywalker, a Discount Darth Vader and a Discount Empire An evil empire taking over the galaxy with a dark side user as an apprentice of an equally cartoonish evil emperor being stopped by a young untrained Jedi with the Dark force user redeeming himself in the end? Come on, they could have done literally Anything else
@@DogKacique I mean these outlines do sound like shit tho. I would have done the same. Why buy star wars from George and still use his ideas? The whole point was to get star wars away from George Lucas who was running it into the ground. Lucasfilm as a studio wasn't profitable. I personally think he sold star wars because the Lucasfilm studio was as big as it could of been.
@@stephen8342kid, you only like them because the sequels were botched. The prequels are the biggest cinematic failures of all time. nothing is fun about watching Jedi's doing break dancing and flips when they fight. In hindsight, they do have an early 2000s cheesy charm and are very unique, but compared to the og trilogy, the prequels are the most disrespectful movies ever made. It's like watching your best friend do drugs but you can't stop them. For me, liking the star wars prequels is the same as liking the alien prequels. Totally ruins the franchise and what's worse is seeing a legendary director struggle with a project that should have been up their alley. I do like the prequels for their unique feel tho. But come on, there is no way you actually believe those to be Vader's backstory.
@@DogKacique 1. George Lucas “ditched” stuff that was set up loud and clear in the OT when he did the PT (Anakin and Obi Wan origin story, for one) 2. Star Wars had 9 episodes drafted by Gary and his team (the guys who did the story for ANH) by the time they worked on ESB, and George Lucas said “no” to that. GL stopped it and NO one else. Then he changed his mind and did his PT (cause money talks) and then he clearly stated “there are no more SW movies”. So stop this whole thing with “George’s plans for a sequel trilogy” cause it doesn’t exist!
@@Chemical_Argentum "2. Star Wars had 9 episodes drafted by Gary and his team" This quote alone tells me you belong to the school of thought that says that Lucas did nothing and Star Wars was someone else's idea, a theory I disagree with. That being said, regardless of the quality of Lucas' outline, it still could have been amended by a talented writer. Ditching it in its near entirety was a mistake.
Disneys first mistake was promising a new Star Wars movie in 2015 not understanding how long it takes to map out a trilogy. I mean the prequels each took 3 years to make and that’s not the 3 years of preproduction before that.
They already had the outline, they threw it away. They had no intention of making it cohesive. They just took the monetarily successful Marvel formula, where the overarching plot for the whole franchise is secondary and nebulous, and applied it to Star Wars. It didn't work because: Marvel is a bunch of mostly disconnected stories Star Wars is one story. Damage to one Marvel property is isolated to that property Damage to one Star Wars property damages all Star Wars properties. A successful Marvel movie will be mostly forgotten in 20 years A successful Star Wars movie will be remembered by people that weren't even alive when it originally came out. George Lucas' mistake in selling Star Wars to Disney was thinking they were the same company he had worked with in the past and not realizing that Marvel's success was really Disney being in the middle of bleeding the franchise dry. People pointed out that this was going to happen to Star Wars when Disney laid out their 2 year, major/minor cycle and announced 3 different directors for the major movies; then episode 7 happened and was kind of okay so people forgot.
You realize that any studio would have made their own canon right? Jacen, Jaina and Mara Jade was never going to be canon Lucas himself said they don't exist in his canon especially Mara Jade. I love the EU btw but gotta face reality those characters would have never made it to canon. Let's be thankful that they somewhat gave the characters but inspired by them like Ben Solo who was really underrated and should've been better and Jacen Syndulla name is based on Jacen Solo. Not saying I like everything they have done but I look on the positive side of things. Just remember any studio would have made their own canon. And also we gotta give Disney some credit because they brought Thrawn into canon animation and now live action Lucas would have never brought Thrawn into stories.
The expanded universe was 98% shit. Try reading any of the actual books rather than skimming wookipedia. Maybe one in five was remotely competently written. Not to mention, most of them contradict what happened in others. It was a huge mess that needed to be purged and I'm glad Disney did so. George Lucas even said that he was going to decanonize it himself when he was planning his sequel trilogy
@@mattryan1999 to be honest the only stuff I see canon in Luke's era is Jedi knight academy games, heir to the empire and a few other books after that. I'm more fluid on the old republic
I think that's very true! I was initially happy when Disney announced that they were gonna axe the old EU and create a new canon of events. I thought this new canon's continuity would be built on consistency rather than a hodgepodge of conflicting narrative visions. But here we are, in 2024, and we have a Disney canon that's, honestly, worse than the EU ever was. Not only does Disney's canon conflict with itself, it conflicts with Lucas' own contributions. And here's the worst let down for me: I thought the Disney treatment could serve as a model for others to follow. I used to play World of Warcraft, which is itself built on top of a series of older games, but the story quickly went bad and it wasn't consistent with previous works. I thought that they could take the mistakes that they made during the lifetime of that game and erase them, simply retcon them out of existence, and start over from where the previous game had ended. And I thought that the success of Disney's new canon would provide the impetus for that. How wrong I was, because it instead did the opposite, nobody likes Disney's canon and it pretty much just made everyone pine for the old days. I'll never get my beloved Warcraft back, just like I'll never see Star Wars be good again. I shall follow the teachings of Jedi Master Yoda and train myself to let go.
You forgot to mention that Disney decanonized the entire Expanded Universe, lied saying it was never cannon, refused to continue it, and shut down Lucas Arts
It wasn't even canon the expanded universe. Lucas himself said it was never canon. He would have never brought those characters into canon unlike Disney so we gotta give them credit for bringing Thrawn I to canon Lucas would have never done that. Just think about that. Those characters didn't exist in Lucas's sequels. I love the EU but those characters would have never made into into canon.
@@matem1649 search on Google. Says it right there. Also as I said I love the EU too but I'm more fluid on the old republic era and the prequel era in the EU.
Old glory falls (prequels) and is replaced by corruption, then that evil is overthrown (Originals). The new trilogy should’ve been about establishing a new paradigm of Jedi and the difficulties of that. Not good guy vs bad guy retreading old ground. I don’t think Disney ever understood Star Wars
How to bring back Star Wars fans Step 1: Bring back the Yuuzhan Vong Step 2: Give the Thrawn series a TV show Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit (This was brought to you by Disney's Crack Supply and a sleepless night of unknown regions lore)
Step one nah.... Cool concept but Canon doesn't really need that in my opinion. Just keep that in the EU despite some rumors about them coming or what ever.
I'll do better: Step 1. Decanonize ALL and I MEAN ALL of Disney Star Wars. And start over from scratch for a new canon. The only thing that should be canon from reset is the OG 6. Step 2. Reorganize the EU and recanonize and support it as an alternative timeline for fans to decide which timeline they like. And where writers can finish these stories.. Step 3. Ditch this DEI shit and hire good writers that don't have a chip on their shoulder for political squabble or on George Lucas or the franchise as a whole. Step 4. If all else fails or these aren't implemented, then fire everyone at Lucasfilm and get people that at least respect Star Wars. Then refer back to step 1. Step 5. Then profit.
This prior do Disney gaming division cost so much money to hold Lucas art they shut then down and canceled other starwar Lucas art relatives games including 1313 when the trailer was released.
I think this really is the best deconstruction of the fall of Star Wars I've seen. None of this "they've gone woke" anti-SJW garbage. Star Wars is a shell of what it used to be, and it all ties back to the root of all evil: money. Even after the sequel trilogy was finished, Disney just couldn't stop themselves, making spin-off after spin-off, stuff that frankly nobody in the actual fanbase was asking for. They're trying to appeal to absolutely everyone with a single franchise and it shows. The vision was gone, and now it was all marketability. George Lucas, while achieving great things, certainly had his issues as a creative. He never quite figured out effective dialogue and by the time he was working on the prequels, he was so big that he didn't really have anyone that could tell him no. That's why the prequels writing is the way it is. Star Wars has seen both ends of the filmmaking spectrum. If your lead visionary is left unchecked, poorly thought out ideas won't get filtered by peers. If there's no central vision, you're left with soulless, tasteless slop.
Since they could have made a LOT more money and achieved greater acclaim by keeping the fan base happy, and since the Disney output clearly and unashamedly trashes the traditional values and ideals of the Lucas movies, and openly promotes "woke/socialist" narratives, I would say that the claims that "they've gone woke" is correct. Ideology over and above outright profit seems to been the agenda.
@@martinharris5017 you're a clown that deserves no say in discussing film because you're clearly not engaging with substance. Grow some fuckin balls and at least TRY being the adult that you think you are.
@@martinharris5017 except that the so called "woke" agenda is just fake virtue signalling in an attempt to expand audiences and turn Star wars into a lifestyle brand, while doing far more harm to the causes, they use as a shield from criticism, than good. If they cared about any of the issues they've been trying to monetize they wouldn't be fueling so much disdain and contempt. Whereas the algorithm and finance bros only see engagement that can be leveraged for profit, regardless of how positive or negative that engagement is
Romantic arc between Anakin and Padme is perfect and dialogues are exactly as they should be between passionate and sincere but mentally unstable boy and emotionally withdrown politician who starts to fall for someone she shouldn't and has no idea what to do with this. Problem with prequels are not dialogues but pre-conceived notion of who Vader was in his youth that was present in minds of many OT fans. They imagined something and then were mad becuse Anakin turned to be too human for them, too flawed, too angry and too in love. 🙄🤷🏻♂ Like... seriously I don't know what they expected - Anakin was meant to be main villain, so it makes sens he is antipathetic in some moments. Lucas showed them what was his vision and they spit in his face. Disney trilogy is mess and I agree with every word of your critique, but I am afraid if Lucas did his vision, big portion of fandom would probably still be angry because it would 'ruin' some headcanon in their head about mature Luke and Leia and New Republic. Most sequels anti-fans disavow them as 'not Lucas work' but many of them already showed they had no respect to Lucas work either. 🤷🏻♂
True, but I feel like with Lucas's trilogy people would come around, just like they did with prequels, as he had always filled all his work with substance, providing artistic vision of themes and topics he was troubled by, and that is something that, if done masterfully, will inevitably find its audience. With Disney's star wars such thing is impossible, as there is nothing but deconstruction for deconstruction's sake, or sometimes clumsy attempts at recreating something that was already done way better
Anakin is objectively not a good villain he makes vain choices that make little sense. No matter what is said nobody considers the prequels high art they have good ideas but aren’t fleshed out.
@@Jaco059 I have no idea who is 'good villain' according to you. Anakin is fallen hero - of course he is not the same type of villain as Paplatine or Lord Voldermort. He is not pure evil type of villain - it is not his arc. His arc is one of noble knight who made wrong choices. Anakin's choices makes perfect sens. He is raised by Jedi but never feels at home, with them contantly belittling him and not trusting him. He wants be with woman he loves and because he is Jedi he has to pretends she doesn't mean anything to him while this other guy (Palpatine), who always showed him respect and care, now offers him future when he and Padme are happy and free. Finally, Anakin watches for years as Republic crumbles under democracy and he genuinely believes competent absolute ruler in power could makes thing better. It is perfectly clear why he chooses what he chooses. "No matter what is said nobody considers the prequels high art" - I do consider both episode II and episode III high art, so your statement is clearly false 😘
@@Jaco059 "vain choices" - Yes, THAT is meaning of 'tragedy'. Anakin's story is tragedy, so of course his choices are in vain 🤦🏻♂ Why is it so hard to understand?! 😳
Exactly. Fanboys hated the idea Vader/Anakin to have been anything less than utterly flawlessly badass from the moment he squirted out of his mother. It wasn't just the romance in Episode 2. The very instant he said "yippee" in Episode 1, fanboy's were done. Personally, I couldn't have imagined anything more boring than had fanboys gotten the backstory they wanted.
Kathleen Kennedy had a vision for Star Wars that would capture the same romantic fever as Twilight and The Hunger Games. Her vision was to add a whole new audience to the franchise, while throwing enough bones to the old audience to keep them around. The ultimate goal was to have a product that a dad and his daughter could be equally excited about. This is what the sequel trilogy set out to do and it failed. She never was able to retain that teenage audience. She’s stuck with an audience of Gen X and millennial males. From all of her press interviews and her decisions that followed the sequel trilogy, the idea that she has to make a product that caters to this type of audience disgusts her. To this day, she is still attempting to capture that audience and still failing. She hires writers and directors who don’t like what Star Wars is, they like what Star Wars could be. She isn’t necessarily trying to destroy Star Wars, and she isn’t necessarily trying to exclude the original fanbase from Star Wars. She just can’t give up on the dream she has for adding a new audience to Star Wars. She doesn’t want to accept the fact that it’s a 40+ year old franchise and it’s never going to be “cool” on a massive scale to teens.
I was soooo IN to when Kylo Ren was waxing dramatically about Rey Letting to kill the past and forge a new future. But then Rey Rejected that plot point, and the ghost flew out of me. Honestly, I'm more excited for the Videogames, like Jedi Fallen Order, Survivor, and that new Starwars Uncharted game (Outlaw).
This was beyond a missed opportunity. The only part of Rian's work in TLJ that wasn't steaming trash in my view- and he botched even this AWESOME moment to really do something new. His subverted expectations weren't subversions- they were wanton vicious demolition.
Why da fuq would Rey join Kylo? she called him a monster in TFA. It would’ve been completely out of character for her. People who wanted this twist just wanted a twist for twist sake.
Johnson didn't subvert expectations he spited them, in a vainglorious attempt to make his own movie instead of the 2nd part of a trilogy. Expectation subversion done right draws people in to a story, just look at the Game of thrones' red wedding as a comparison
Exceptional recap of the rise and fall of Star Wars. Your video gave me a thought. A truly worthy director who is adapting a book or expanding on an established story written by one of the already established titans of storytelling like an Austin, Lucas, Tolkien or otherwise needs to see themselves as more of an historian than a creative visionary. If you’re a creative visionary then you need to be telling your own epic story. If your adapting someone else’s to the screen you’re an historian who is trying to make this already epic story that has already been concreted into history into something that is accessible to the masses. You’re taking ancient manuscripts and putting flesh on them. You’re translating the Bible into a new language. You’re not going to IMPROVE on it. Your job is to open up access to it to someone who can’t speak the original language and you must take great pains to stay true to the source material. Again, if you’re making your own religion then have fun and see if it takes. But if you’re piggy backing off an established religion then stay true to it. If you’re wiser than Jesus then prove it. Don’t basically plagiarize his movement and then call it your own. People who are familiar with his movement will instantly recognize the lack of quality. Someone familiar with history will recognize that you aren’t telling the truth. If you’re a truly great mind then you will go make your own history and others will labor to retell your story with accuracy. If you’re telling someone else’s story don’t be so arrogant to think that you can do it better. Just tell the truth.
Excellent video, I wish that George Lucas had just chosen a worthy successor to run lucasfilm instead of selling to Disney. But now that doesn’t matter, I say with every fiber of my being that if Star Wars is to survive Disney needs to sell it to another studio or just stop making mediocre or insulting content. The real Star Wars will always live on but I want Disney to stop the humiliation conga line.
George OG sequel idea : Have Leia balance building a new fair govt while growing her children Disneys sequel idea : StRoNg FeMaLe ChArAcTeR George : 🤦🏻♂️
Kk was incompetent and iger is incompetent for not firing her before she ruined one of the most popular franchises of all time. Expectations subverted.
It's really sad. I'm writing a Star Wars story, and it talks about the light side and the dark side of the force. My story talks about how evil and manipulative the Empire really is. It's built on the transformation of the Galactic Republic to the Galactic Empire. When you're telling a story you're telling a story using tools. You're not using tools to tell a story. When Star Wars the original trilogy came out, it was inspired by the Vietnam War, WWII, samurai films, and spaghetti western films. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was just inspired by Star Wars. My Star Wars story that I'm currently working on is going to be inspired by my own life and the movies and tv shows that I grew up watching. This Star Wars story is going to be an expression of me. Sometimes we forget that Star Wars was created an expression of George Lucas himself. You can't understand Star Wars without understanding George Lucas' life and you can't understand Star Wars without understanding the politics behind it. The reason why the Star Wars prequel trilogy got a lot of hate is because movie critics didn't take the time to understand the hidden meaning of the stories. The Star Wars prequel trilogy is better than most people think. Sometimes in order to understand a work of art, you have to understand the author's intentions with the story and learn to judge whether or not the execution of the story fulfills that goal. You can't always trust movie critics. Sometimes in order to shut the mouth of a movie critic, you show them how passionate you are about telling a story. That's what I learned. You're always going to be criticized when making a movie. Unfortunately, Hollywood studios today have lost their vision to know how to make movies. Too many Hollywood producers don't know how to make movies because they don't have a vision.
There's no fixing the Star Wars series. They killed it, and now they are just playing with its corpse in front of the fans' eyes, disgusting as completely.
It still floors me that they decided to try and make The Rise of Skywalker into "the ultimate Star Wars film to end the saga" despite the state of the sequel trilogy and the fandom at the time. All of the boneheaded decisions made in that movie can be traced back to that one misguided concept. Honestly, though, the expanded universe had to be reset. I hate what they replaced it with, but The New Jedi Order was where it peaked, and everything after that felt like the EU was eating itself.
Whoa whoa whoa Disney had nothing to do with Marvel during phase 1, that was all done by Paramount, Disney's Purchase didnt go thru until Avengers was in full marketing roll out and their first full Marvel film (not including Big Hero 6) was Iron Man 3, but you knew that I'm sure
I think it was inevitable a Lucas buy out by the Mouse . Could Lucas have kept his brain child all to himself? Of course but it all would have imploded onto itself esp. since the backlash of the prequels.
With my flawless 20/20 hindsight, I have determined that Disneys first and biggest mistake was not immediately recasting the big three. Instead, we have stories that tip toe around its most recognisable heroes .
George Lucas's Star Wars sequel trilogy ideas for episodes 7,8, and 9 were better than Disney's version of the sequel trilogy. Lucas planning to bring Darth Maul back as the villain was good. Leia struggling to rebuild the Republic is also pretty interesting too. Luke SkyWalker rebuilding the Jedi Order was also an interesting idea as well. The political situation in George Lucas's version of the sequel trilogy when the galaxy is talking about post war reconstruction and the chaos and lawlessness that existed after the fall of the Empire is extremely better.
I know that Jar Jar stepping in 💩is considered "good SW" these days, but let me remind you that GL ultimately sold SW because he got tired of all critisism and bullying that he got Furthermore, a fun fact, GL wasn't even the main lore maker on the OT. It was producer Gary Kurtz and writer Lawrence Kasdan
No George Lucas was The Main writer on The whole ot Lawrence kasdan himself said that The Empire script George gave him was basiclly The final version and Kurtz was fired because he went overbudget on Empire. You can hate on The prequels all You want but George Made Star Wars is Lucas's, of course he didn't make it all by himself, But it id his creation like him or not so don't spread false myths about the making of the star wars films
@@disma4191 Kurtz did not get fired, he and the team left. And the first movie got re-written like 40 times and the final result was NOT approved but GL, he was actually frustrated about it. Yes, Empire went over budget and the film did not take in the amount of money they hoped for, but that didn't result in firering Kurtz, it resulted in "ok, we're not gonna follow the same style for the next SW movie as you inrended to, instead we follow the 'action roller coaster' that Indiana Jones had since the audience loved that" (basically, in simplified terms) I don't "hate" the prequels, they do have a good world building. But yeah, I am not fond of them, they are cringe af and have alot of inconsisency. You go ahead and like them if you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But alot of ppl do praise the PT cause they're written by (the) George Lucas, and they do not realize he did NOT make the OT on his own. He's the kickstarter, yes, but they'd still be super different if he had full creative control. Now do note I am not implying that you love the PT just bc of Lucas, I am not gonna try to psychoanalyze you, and even IF you do, you have the right to free will. But ppl do forget about history, that's all I'm saying
Gotta be honest Maul being in the sequels would have been terrible, Maul was always meant to die at the hand of Kenobi on Tatooine just like in the old wounds story and then it made it into Rebels, and we all need to realize that the characters like Jacen, Janina, and Mara Jade were never going to be canon. But the stuff about Star Wars us dead because of the Acolyte is nonsense every show has there ups and downs you just need to look on the positive shows that people liked. I always look on the postive side of things I don't judge a show till its over and a movie or something.
The only people who see the 'positives' in Disney's disastrous run are the ones who scream that the people who dislike the shows are a bunch of -ists and -phobes
As someone who has been reading the EU ever since I got Heir to the Empire for my 12th bday in 92, I am happy with 1-6 and EU being my head canon. I much prefer the story of Jacen and Jaina over what Disney has provided. I cancelled disney plus in 21 because I realized disney star wars wasn't going to make anything that interested me.
Maul should’ve been the main villain of the prequels. Killing Maul and not developing him was a huge mistake. So much money left on the table. Dooku and Grevious gotta be the most boring villains in Star Wars. They are so bad Lucas had to dig up Maul to bring TCW ratings up.
The decline of Star Wars started with the prequels and the absence of Marcia Lucas. This video is incorrect. Disney just hastened that decline. It got away from what Lucas was trying to explain about democracies and dictatorships and how evil rises and was grounded in WWII down to the tactics.
Lucas or Kennedy. Star Wars should'v been put to bed ages ago. These days you've got three generations in the same room arguing about what Star Wars means. Star Wars Is boring!
Lucas ran out of decent ideas after ESB. And Lucas himself has said he made it all up as he went along. All he had were a few notes, not a whole backstory planned.
It lost it's vision because it lost it's visionary: George, he was the brains behind the best films in the series and even the prequels are great because of him and his willingness to take some risk with the story. now we are left with a woke agenda sociopath running everything George built into the ground.
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!! Why does everyone buy into this bullshit that "there was no plan for the long term?" There WAS a plan- but Kathleen Kennedy scrapped them because she fell in love with Rian Johnson's political ideas for Star Wars. That's why Rian was allowed to completely rerout the story and crush all the threads J.J. Abrams' started in Force Awakens. That's why K.K. immediately announced a brand new R.J. trilogy BEFORE the Last Jedi was released. (If you doubt that politics was involved, then ask yourself why, when the Supreme Court voided Roe v Wade and sent the abortion issue back to the states, did LUCASFILM posted in Twitter that they were going to watch The Last Jedi again?) THIS is where the plot was lost and J.J. Abrams' long term plan.
One of the problems is there is too many super Star Wars nerds like myself that have our own vision and the one that made it to big screen did not even come close so I did not even go see episode 9, I wish I didn't see 8. I thought 7 was okay.
In Disney's defense those shoes were some of most difficult shoes to fill, it doesn't matter who made the film I guarantee the films would never have gotten more than a 60 or 70 percent approval rating, there are too many different visions out there.
It started long before the sale to Disney. I’m sorry, but the prequels ruined a lot of things starting with the force. They turned it from a spiritual concept that was about one’s connection with the universe and life itself into simple space magic ruled by microbes in one’s bloodstream. They ruined Anakin Skywalker, who was supposed to be a heroic figure and great friend and turned out to be a mopey, bratty stalker who was not established to be anything other than a bad egg from the get go. They also ruined Jedi, once the defenders of justice now just weird sexless monks who all talked like robots. The prequels ruined so much … Disney just kept ruining it.
Oh please shut up. The fans were divided since the prequel. And the prequel brought in new fans. Its only divided because of toxic nerds that dont like change. THATS WHY LUCAS SOLD IT😂
The expanded universe and the prequels exist because people wanted more Star Wars, not because Lucas had more story to tell. Not everything needs a backstory, and some things are better left to the imagination. In 16 years, Lucas couldn't come up with anything interesting enough to justify another trilogy, so he should have let it be. His edits to the originals were an early sign that the prequels wouldn't be good. Han is transformed from a no-nonsense rogue to a self-defence pussy. The subtlety of Vader's silent internal conflict is made explicit with a cartoonish exclamation. Jabba and Boba having cameos in ANH destroys our anticipation of finally seeing them in RotJ and ESB. Similarly, the prequels spoil key revelations within the original trilogy. The reveal of Vader's true identity is robbed of its gravitas. Luke and Leia being siblings is no longer a twist. We already know that the humble Yoda is in fact a great Jedi Master, and we already know that the Emperor can shoot lightning bolts from his hands. It works so much better with him as a sinister offscreen presence until the penultimate chapter. It was always implied that Yoda and the Emperor had mastered the Force to such an extent that they no longer needed lightsabers, so their use of them in the prequels is totally out of character. It was also implied that the Emperor's grotesque appearance is what happens when you are consumed by the Dark Side, but the prequels ruined this with that idiotic scene where he fries himself with his rebounded lightning. Vader killing the younglings was a step too far. It wasn't necessary to include anything that sinister. The original trilogy now retroactively suggests that child murder is a redeemable offence. This is a reprehensible message, especially coming from a franchise that was primarily aimed at children. The introduction of midichlorians is by far the most egregious mistake. It completely inverts our understanding of the Force, which until this point had been a mysterious cosmic energy that only gifted individuals could master. With dedication and discipline, one could attain telekinetic and telepathic abilities. Its nature and origins were intentionally vague, and this is why it worked. The Jedi, once the guardians of peace and justice, are transformed into dim-witted bureaucrats who are more concerned with tax disputes and abducting impressionable children. Because attachment is forbidden by the Jedi code, the children are not allowed any contact with their families. The Jedi also have no qualms about cloning sentient beings to use as cannon fodder, which makes them seem more villainous than the Separatists they fight against, who use only droids. It makes us wonder why Luke viewed them with such admiration. How can we root for protagonists who display more arrogance and hypocrisy than the supposed villains? Star Wars has been pulled in every direction imaginable, first by an out-of-touch Lucas and now by the woke mob, and the damage has been irreparable. Hearing a pint size Anakin squealing “yippee” in TPM is unbearable. How can we take Darth Vader seriously after that? Star Wars was never intended to become as big as it did. It was a low budget movie inspired by Arthurian legend, WW2 and 50s sci-fi serials. In contrast to its humble origins, it became a sprawling corporate abomination. Disney then swallowed it up, and it devolved into self-insert fanfiction. Every character, no matter how fleeting, has been retconned with a stunning-and-brave backstory. This dead horse has been beaten so many times. It's just a puddle of glue now.
Good points! 🙂 I was a bit disappointed that the creator of the video didn't spend much time focusing on the problems which existed with SW, even before Lucas sold to Disney.
Space ships, fighter planes in space, sword fights, hero saves girl, laser guns, roguish space smugglers, terrifying guys in black... Communal lesbian space witches and girl boss Mary Sue. Lando Calrissian doing the nasty with a droid. Riding a herd of My Little Pony across the deck of a Star Destroyer.
Your video is 15min too long, you should have started at 15:10 .Moreover you dont address any of the recent failures of Disney +(Mandalorian S3, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte) or SOLO (1st sw movie that lost money), NO mention of Politics injected into storytelling by prioritycing female representation above good Story telling, impulsed by famously despised studio lead Kathleen Kennedy and supported by Disney chief Bob Iger. Thats of course if this is not some shity AI channel
because the 5 decades of political and historical influences drawn by lucas to make the prequels and OT weren’t political but the introduction of a female MC is? (ok tbh i dont like rey either, but ROS sucked due to it being rushed and unorganised not because was “injecting politics”, the lack of politics is the reason why TFA lacked behind the prequels)
The prequels are total dogshit for sure besides some stand out sequences. I dont believe the Disney trilogy is better exactly but it certainly has more likeable/interesting characters and is better acted overall.
@@framerofworlds9984 you might want to read my comment again, I clearly stated neither trilogy was enjoyable but let's be honest here. The acting in the Disney movies is leagues above the dry one note takes from the prequels, Palpatines actor excluded of course at least he was hamming it up and having a ball.
It is insane that Disney ditched all the outlines made by George Lucas (that make a story that makes way more logical sense) only to make a story with a Discount Luke Skywalker, a Discount Darth Vader and a Discount Empire
An evil empire taking over the galaxy with a dark side user as an apprentice of an equally cartoonish evil emperor being stopped by a young untrained Jedi with the Dark force user redeeming himself in the end? Come on, they could have done literally Anything else
@@DogKacique I mean these outlines do sound like shit tho. I would have done the same. Why buy star wars from George and still use his ideas? The whole point was to get star wars away from George Lucas who was running it into the ground. Lucasfilm as a studio wasn't profitable. I personally think he sold star wars because the Lucasfilm studio was as big as it could of been.
@@mania4270lmao cope harder, the prequels go hard as fuck
@@stephen8342kid, you only like them because the sequels were botched. The prequels are the biggest cinematic failures of all time. nothing is fun about watching Jedi's doing break dancing and flips when they fight.
In hindsight, they do have an early 2000s cheesy charm and are very unique, but compared to the og trilogy, the prequels are the most disrespectful movies ever made. It's like watching your best friend do drugs but you can't stop them. For me, liking the star wars prequels is the same as liking the alien prequels. Totally ruins the franchise and what's worse is seeing a legendary director struggle with a project that should have been up their alley. I do like the prequels for their unique feel tho. But come on, there is no way you actually believe those to be Vader's backstory.
@@DogKacique 1. George Lucas “ditched” stuff that was set up loud and clear in the OT when he did the PT (Anakin and Obi Wan origin story, for one)
2. Star Wars had 9 episodes drafted by Gary and his team (the guys who did the story for ANH) by the time they worked on ESB, and George Lucas said “no” to that. GL stopped it and NO one else. Then he changed his mind and did his PT (cause money talks) and then he clearly stated “there are no more SW movies”. So stop this whole thing with “George’s plans for a sequel trilogy” cause it doesn’t exist!
@@Chemical_Argentum "2. Star Wars had 9 episodes drafted by Gary and his team"
This quote alone tells me you belong to the school of thought that says that Lucas did nothing and Star Wars was someone else's idea, a theory I disagree with.
That being said, regardless of the quality of Lucas' outline, it still could have been amended by a talented writer. Ditching it in its near entirety was a mistake.
Disneys first mistake was promising a new Star Wars movie in 2015 not understanding how long it takes to map out a trilogy. I mean the prequels each took 3 years to make and that’s not the 3 years of preproduction before that.
They already had the outline, they threw it away. They had no intention of making it cohesive. They just took the monetarily successful Marvel formula, where the overarching plot for the whole franchise is secondary and nebulous, and applied it to Star Wars. It didn't work because:
Marvel is a bunch of mostly disconnected stories
Star Wars is one story.
Damage to one Marvel property is isolated to that property
Damage to one Star Wars property damages all Star Wars properties.
A successful Marvel movie will be mostly forgotten in 20 years
A successful Star Wars movie will be remembered by people that weren't even alive when it originally came out.
George Lucas' mistake in selling Star Wars to Disney was thinking they were the same company he had worked with in the past and not realizing that Marvel's success was really Disney being in the middle of bleeding the franchise dry. People pointed out that this was going to happen to Star Wars when Disney laid out their 2 year, major/minor cycle and announced 3 different directors for the major movies; then episode 7 happened and was kind of okay so people forgot.
It all started with the murder of the Expanded Universe and then dredging it back up again.
You realize that any studio would have made their own canon right? Jacen, Jaina and Mara Jade was never going to be canon Lucas himself said they don't exist in his canon especially Mara Jade. I love the EU btw but gotta face reality those characters would have never made it to canon. Let's be thankful that they somewhat gave the characters but inspired by them like Ben Solo who was really underrated and should've been better and Jacen Syndulla name is based on Jacen Solo. Not saying I like everything they have done but I look on the positive side of things. Just remember any studio would have made their own canon. And also we gotta give Disney some credit because they brought Thrawn into canon animation and now live action Lucas would have never brought Thrawn into stories.
The expanded universe was 98% shit. Try reading any of the actual books rather than skimming wookipedia. Maybe one in five was remotely competently written. Not to mention, most of them contradict what happened in others. It was a huge mess that needed to be purged and I'm glad Disney did so. George Lucas even said that he was going to decanonize it himself when he was planning his sequel trilogy
@@mattryan1999 to be honest the only stuff I see canon in Luke's era is Jedi knight academy games, heir to the empire and a few other books after that. I'm more fluid on the old republic
I think that's very true! I was initially happy when Disney announced that they were gonna axe the old EU and create a new canon of events. I thought this new canon's continuity would be built on consistency rather than a hodgepodge of conflicting narrative visions. But here we are, in 2024, and we have a Disney canon that's, honestly, worse than the EU ever was. Not only does Disney's canon conflict with itself, it conflicts with Lucas' own contributions.
And here's the worst let down for me: I thought the Disney treatment could serve as a model for others to follow. I used to play World of Warcraft, which is itself built on top of a series of older games, but the story quickly went bad and it wasn't consistent with previous works. I thought that they could take the mistakes that they made during the lifetime of that game and erase them, simply retcon them out of existence, and start over from where the previous game had ended. And I thought that the success of Disney's new canon would provide the impetus for that. How wrong I was, because it instead did the opposite, nobody likes Disney's canon and it pretty much just made everyone pine for the old days.
I'll never get my beloved Warcraft back, just like I'll never see Star Wars be good again. I shall follow the teachings of Jedi Master Yoda and train myself to let go.
@@mattryan1999 My above comment was meant as a response to your comment. 😊
You forgot to mention that Disney decanonized the entire Expanded Universe, lied saying it was never cannon, refused to continue it, and shut down Lucas Arts
It wasn't even canon the expanded universe. Lucas himself said it was never canon. He would have never brought those characters into canon unlike Disney so we gotta give them credit for bringing Thrawn I to canon Lucas would have never done that. Just think about that. Those characters didn't exist in Lucas's sequels. I love the EU but those characters would have never made into into canon.
@@A21-EDITS21 shut up it was cannon
@@matem1649 Not to Lucas... But to us it was.
@@A21-EDITS21 He never said it wasn't cannon
@@matem1649 search on Google. Says it right there. Also as I said I love the EU too but I'm more fluid on the old republic era and the prequel era in the EU.
That George R. R. Martin quote has got to be one of the best roasts of the film industry I've ever heard.
the Mayans called it: 12th of december the world would end.
And so it did, the world we previously cherished exists no longer
Indeed.
Wow your right
Old glory falls (prequels) and is replaced by corruption, then that evil is overthrown (Originals). The new trilogy should’ve been about establishing a new paradigm of Jedi and the difficulties of that. Not good guy vs bad guy retreading old ground. I don’t think Disney ever understood Star Wars
really sad that such a great movie line had to succumb to the money oriented mainstream tunnel vision of disney
How to bring back Star Wars fans
Step 1: Bring back the Yuuzhan Vong
Step 2: Give the Thrawn series a TV show
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit
(This was brought to you by Disney's Crack Supply and a sleepless night of unknown regions lore)
we want organic spaceships eatig everyone!!!!
Step one nah.... Cool concept but Canon doesn't really need that in my opinion. Just keep that in the EU despite some rumors about them coming or what ever.
Step 3: Make a Darth Bane movie triology or TV show.
step 2 is a must thrawn must fight grysk on screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll do better:
Step 1. Decanonize ALL and I MEAN ALL of Disney Star Wars. And start over from scratch for a new canon. The only thing that should be canon from reset is the OG 6.
Step 2. Reorganize the EU and recanonize and support it as an alternative timeline for fans to decide which timeline they like. And where writers can finish these stories..
Step 3. Ditch this DEI shit and hire good writers that don't have a chip on their shoulder for political squabble or on George Lucas or the franchise as a whole.
Step 4. If all else fails or these aren't implemented, then fire everyone at Lucasfilm and get people that at least respect Star Wars. Then refer back to step 1.
Step 5. Then profit.
Im still mad that star wars 1313 game never came out
Disney wanted those 4Qs appeal to a wide audience. Star Wars could of had older content plots stories.
maybe they will make an acolyte game 😂
This prior do Disney gaming division cost so much money to hold Lucas art they shut then down and canceled other starwar Lucas art relatives games including 1313 when the trailer was released.
I think this really is the best deconstruction of the fall of Star Wars I've seen. None of this "they've gone woke" anti-SJW garbage. Star Wars is a shell of what it used to be, and it all ties back to the root of all evil: money.
Even after the sequel trilogy was finished, Disney just couldn't stop themselves, making spin-off after spin-off, stuff that frankly nobody in the actual fanbase was asking for. They're trying to appeal to absolutely everyone with a single franchise and it shows. The vision was gone, and now it was all marketability.
George Lucas, while achieving great things, certainly had his issues as a creative. He never quite figured out effective dialogue and by the time he was working on the prequels, he was so big that he didn't really have anyone that could tell him no. That's why the prequels writing is the way it is.
Star Wars has seen both ends of the filmmaking spectrum. If your lead visionary is left unchecked, poorly thought out ideas won't get filtered by peers. If there's no central vision, you're left with soulless, tasteless slop.
Its not about money, its about intentional deconstruction.
Since they could have made a LOT more money and achieved greater acclaim by keeping the fan base happy, and since the Disney output clearly and unashamedly trashes the traditional values and ideals of the Lucas movies, and openly promotes "woke/socialist" narratives, I would say that the claims that "they've gone woke" is correct. Ideology over and above outright profit seems to been the agenda.
@@martinharris5017 you're a clown that deserves no say in discussing film because you're clearly not engaging with substance. Grow some fuckin balls and at least TRY being the adult that you think you are.
@@martinharris5017 except that the so called "woke" agenda is just fake virtue signalling in an attempt to expand audiences and turn Star wars into a lifestyle brand, while doing far more harm to the causes, they use as a shield from criticism, than good. If they cared about any of the issues they've been trying to monetize they wouldn't be fueling so much disdain and contempt. Whereas the algorithm and finance bros only see engagement that can be leveraged for profit, regardless of how positive or negative that engagement is
Romantic arc between Anakin and Padme is perfect and dialogues are exactly as they should be between passionate and sincere but mentally unstable boy and emotionally withdrown politician who starts to fall for someone she shouldn't and has no idea what to do with this. Problem with prequels are not dialogues but pre-conceived notion of who Vader was in his youth that was present in minds of many OT fans. They imagined something and then were mad becuse Anakin turned to be too human for them, too flawed, too angry and too in love. 🙄🤷🏻♂ Like... seriously I don't know what they expected - Anakin was meant to be main villain, so it makes sens he is antipathetic in some moments. Lucas showed them what was his vision and they spit in his face. Disney trilogy is mess and I agree with every word of your critique, but I am afraid if Lucas did his vision, big portion of fandom would probably still be angry because it would 'ruin' some headcanon in their head about mature Luke and Leia and New Republic. Most sequels anti-fans disavow them as 'not Lucas work' but many of them already showed they had no respect to Lucas work either. 🤷🏻♂
True, but I feel like with Lucas's trilogy people would come around, just like they did with prequels, as he had always filled all his work with substance, providing artistic vision of themes and topics he was troubled by, and that is something that, if done masterfully, will inevitably find its audience. With Disney's star wars such thing is impossible, as there is nothing but deconstruction for deconstruction's sake, or sometimes clumsy attempts at recreating something that was already done way better
Anakin is objectively not a good villain he makes vain choices that make little sense. No matter what is said nobody considers the prequels high art they have good ideas but aren’t fleshed out.
@@Jaco059 I have no idea who is 'good villain' according to you. Anakin is fallen hero - of course he is not the same type of villain as Paplatine or Lord Voldermort. He is not pure evil type of villain - it is not his arc. His arc is one of noble knight who made wrong choices. Anakin's choices makes perfect sens. He is raised by Jedi but never feels at home, with them contantly belittling him and not trusting him. He wants be with woman he loves and because he is Jedi he has to pretends she doesn't mean anything to him while this other guy (Palpatine), who always showed him respect and care, now offers him future when he and Padme are happy and free. Finally, Anakin watches for years as Republic crumbles under democracy and he genuinely believes competent absolute ruler in power could makes thing better. It is perfectly clear why he chooses what he chooses. "No matter what is said nobody considers the prequels high art" - I do consider both episode II and episode III high art, so your statement is clearly false 😘
@@Jaco059 "vain choices" - Yes, THAT is meaning of 'tragedy'. Anakin's story is tragedy, so of course his choices are in vain 🤦🏻♂ Why is it so hard to understand?! 😳
Exactly. Fanboys hated the idea Vader/Anakin to have been anything less than utterly flawlessly badass from the moment he squirted out of his mother. It wasn't just the romance in Episode 2. The very instant he said "yippee" in Episode 1, fanboy's were done. Personally, I couldn't have imagined anything more boring than had fanboys gotten the backstory they wanted.
Perfectly explained
Kathleen Kennedy had a vision for Star Wars that would capture the same romantic fever as Twilight and The Hunger Games. Her vision was to add a whole new audience to the franchise, while throwing enough bones to the old audience to keep them around. The ultimate goal was to have a product that a dad and his daughter could be equally excited about.
This is what the sequel trilogy set out to do and it failed. She never was able to retain that teenage audience. She’s stuck with an audience of Gen X and millennial males.
From all of her press interviews and her decisions that followed the sequel trilogy, the idea that she has to make a product that caters to this type of audience disgusts her.
To this day, she is still attempting to capture that audience and still failing. She hires writers and directors who don’t like what Star Wars is, they like what Star Wars could be.
She isn’t necessarily trying to destroy Star Wars, and she isn’t necessarily trying to exclude the original fanbase from Star Wars.
She just can’t give up on the dream she has for adding a new audience to Star Wars. She doesn’t want to accept the fact that it’s a 40+ year old franchise and it’s never going to be “cool” on a massive scale to teens.
Now we got Space Goonies🙄
I was soooo IN to when Kylo Ren was waxing dramatically about Rey Letting to kill the past and forge a new future. But then Rey Rejected that plot point, and the ghost flew out of me.
Honestly, I'm more excited for the Videogames, like Jedi Fallen Order, Survivor, and that new Starwars Uncharted game (Outlaw).
This was beyond a missed opportunity. The only part of Rian's work in TLJ that wasn't steaming trash in my view- and he botched even this AWESOME moment to really do something new. His subverted expectations weren't subversions- they were wanton vicious demolition.
Why da fuq would Rey join Kylo? she called him a monster in TFA. It would’ve been completely out of character for her. People who wanted this twist just wanted a twist for twist sake.
Johnson didn't subvert expectations he spited them, in a vainglorious attempt to make his own movie instead of the 2nd part of a trilogy. Expectation subversion done right draws people in to a story, just look at the Game of thrones' red wedding as a comparison
Incredible documentary
Exceptional recap of the rise and fall of Star Wars. Your video gave me a thought. A truly worthy director who is adapting a book or expanding on an established story written by one of the already established titans of storytelling like an Austin, Lucas, Tolkien or otherwise needs to see themselves as more of an historian than a creative visionary. If you’re a creative visionary then you need to be telling your own epic story. If your adapting someone else’s to the screen you’re an historian who is trying to make this already epic story that has already been concreted into history into something that is accessible to the masses. You’re taking ancient manuscripts and putting flesh on them. You’re translating the Bible into a new language. You’re not going to IMPROVE on it. Your job is to open up access to it to someone who can’t speak the original language and you must take great pains to stay true to the source material. Again, if you’re making your own religion then have fun and see if it takes. But if you’re piggy backing off an established religion then stay true to it. If you’re wiser than Jesus then prove it. Don’t basically plagiarize his movement and then call it your own. People who are familiar with his movement will instantly recognize the lack of quality. Someone familiar with history will recognize that you aren’t telling the truth. If you’re a truly great mind then you will go make your own history and others will labor to retell your story with accuracy. If you’re telling someone else’s story don’t be so arrogant to think that you can do it better. Just tell the truth.
Excellent video, I wish that George Lucas had just chosen a worthy successor to run lucasfilm instead of selling to Disney. But now that doesn’t matter, I say with every fiber of my being that if Star Wars is to survive Disney needs to sell it to another studio or just stop making mediocre or insulting content. The real Star Wars will always live on but I want Disney to stop the humiliation conga line.
George OG sequel idea : Have Leia balance building a new fair govt while growing her children
Disneys sequel idea : StRoNg FeMaLe ChArAcTeR
George : 🤦🏻♂️
Kk was incompetent and iger is incompetent for not firing her before she ruined one of the most popular franchises of all time.
Expectations subverted.
Your videos deserve more views.
Star Wars never "lost it's vision".
It lost it's original owner.
Well researched and thoughtful.
So sad. So so sad.
Excellent video essay
DAMN that kotor soundtrack got me salivating
*There is no Rey, Kylo Ren, Finn, Captain Phasma, Poe, Snoke, Hux, Max Kanata, etc. in George Lucas' sequel*
Simple. The story was over but Disney wanted money. The end.
It's really sad. I'm writing a Star Wars story, and it talks about the light side and the dark side of the force. My story talks about how evil and manipulative the Empire really is. It's built on the transformation of the Galactic Republic to the Galactic Empire. When you're telling a story you're telling a story using tools. You're not using tools to tell a story. When Star Wars the original trilogy came out, it was inspired by the Vietnam War, WWII, samurai films, and spaghetti western films. The Star Wars sequel trilogy was just inspired by Star Wars. My Star Wars story that I'm currently working on is going to be inspired by my own life and the movies and tv shows that I grew up watching. This Star Wars story is going to be an expression of me. Sometimes we forget that Star Wars was created an expression of George Lucas himself. You can't understand Star Wars without understanding George Lucas' life and you can't understand Star Wars without understanding the politics behind it. The reason why the Star Wars prequel trilogy got a lot of hate is because movie critics didn't take the time to understand the hidden meaning of the stories. The Star Wars prequel trilogy is better than most people think. Sometimes in order to understand a work of art, you have to understand the author's intentions with the story and learn to judge whether or not the execution of the story fulfills that goal. You can't always trust movie critics. Sometimes in order to shut the mouth of a movie critic, you show them how passionate you are about telling a story. That's what I learned. You're always going to be criticized when making a movie. Unfortunately, Hollywood studios today have lost their vision to know how to make movies. Too many Hollywood producers don't know how to make movies because they don't have a vision.
There's no fixing the Star Wars series. They killed it, and now they are just playing with its corpse in front of the fans' eyes, disgusting as completely.
Marvel already had the MCU up and running with hit films before Disney bought them out
Disney could have actually owned Star Wars back in the 70s 😮
Lucas sold Pixar too! $$$ 🤑
@@DavidLLambertmobile When?
It still floors me that they decided to try and make The Rise of Skywalker into "the ultimate Star Wars film to end the saga" despite the state of the sequel trilogy and the fandom at the time. All of the boneheaded decisions made in that movie can be traced back to that one misguided concept.
Honestly, though, the expanded universe had to be reset. I hate what they replaced it with, but The New Jedi Order was where it peaked, and everything after that felt like the EU was eating itself.
Andor is good
andor isa more serious take on star wars, which is what it should've been from the start
Too bad Andor is ending with the next season.
Rogue One was excellent. It showed Disney could make great SW content. With the right sources, story.
It really is crazy how much of Lucas’s orginal ideas were repurposed down the road
I'm still angry at times that Lucasfilm made the Aperion mod for KOTOR shut down. For crying out loud they would've sold more copies of KOTOR.
Whoa whoa whoa Disney had nothing to do with Marvel during phase 1, that was all done by Paramount, Disney's Purchase didnt go thru until Avengers was in full marketing roll out and their first full Marvel film (not including Big Hero 6) was Iron Man 3, but you knew that I'm sure
I think it was inevitable a Lucas buy out by the Mouse . Could Lucas have kept his brain child all to himself? Of course but it all would have imploded onto itself esp. since the backlash of the prequels.
Amazing video great work, please don’t shut up
It all ended the second they turned the space frogs gay.
man is speaking FAX
The power of many egomaniacs redefine (ruining) beloved IPs.
With my flawless 20/20 hindsight, I have determined that Disneys first and biggest mistake was not immediately recasting the big three. Instead, we have stories that tip toe around its most recognisable heroes .
George Lucas's Star Wars sequel trilogy ideas for episodes 7,8, and 9 were better than Disney's version of the sequel trilogy. Lucas planning to bring Darth Maul back as the villain was good. Leia struggling to rebuild the Republic is also pretty interesting too. Luke SkyWalker rebuilding the Jedi Order was also an interesting idea as well. The political situation in George Lucas's version of the sequel trilogy when the galaxy is talking about post war reconstruction and the chaos and lawlessness that existed after the fall of the Empire is extremely better.
I know that Jar Jar stepping in 💩is considered "good SW" these days, but let me remind you that GL ultimately sold SW because he got tired of all critisism and bullying that he got
Furthermore, a fun fact, GL wasn't even the main lore maker on the OT. It was producer Gary Kurtz and writer Lawrence Kasdan
No George Lucas was The Main writer on The whole ot Lawrence kasdan himself said that The Empire script George gave him was basiclly The final version and Kurtz was fired because he went overbudget on Empire.
You can hate on The prequels all You want but George Made Star Wars is Lucas's, of course he didn't make it all by himself, But it id his creation like him or not so don't spread false myths about the making of the star wars films
@@disma4191 Kurtz did not get fired, he and the team left. And the first movie got re-written like 40 times and the final result was NOT approved but GL, he was actually frustrated about it. Yes, Empire went over budget and the film did not take in the amount of money they hoped for, but that didn't result in firering Kurtz, it resulted in "ok, we're not gonna follow the same style for the next SW movie as you inrended to, instead we follow the 'action roller coaster' that Indiana Jones had since the audience loved that" (basically, in simplified terms)
I don't "hate" the prequels, they do have a good world building. But yeah, I am not fond of them, they are cringe af and have alot of inconsisency. You go ahead and like them if you want, you're entitled to your opinion. But alot of ppl do praise the PT cause they're written by (the) George Lucas, and they do not realize he did NOT make the OT on his own. He's the kickstarter, yes, but they'd still be super different if he had full creative control.
Now do note I am not implying that you love the PT just bc of Lucas, I am not gonna try to psychoanalyze you, and even IF you do, you have the right to free will. But ppl do forget about history, that's all I'm saying
it's funny that THAT very author would live on to prove his very-own "historic" quote crap....
Gotta be honest Maul being in the sequels would have been terrible, Maul was always meant to die at the hand of Kenobi on Tatooine just like in the old wounds story and then it made it into Rebels, and we all need to realize that the characters like Jacen, Janina, and Mara Jade were never going to be canon. But the stuff about Star Wars us dead because of the Acolyte is nonsense every show has there ups and downs you just need to look on the positive shows that people liked. I always look on the postive side of things I don't judge a show till its over and a movie or something.
The only people who see the 'positives' in Disney's disastrous run are the ones who scream that the people who dislike the shows are a bunch of -ists and -phobes
As someone who has been reading the EU ever since I got Heir to the Empire for my 12th bday in 92, I am happy with 1-6 and EU being my head canon. I much prefer the story of Jacen and Jaina over what Disney has provided. I cancelled disney plus in 21 because I realized disney star wars wasn't going to make anything that interested me.
Maul should’ve been the main villain of the prequels. Killing Maul and not developing him was a huge mistake. So much money left on the table. Dooku and Grevious gotta be the most boring villains in Star Wars. They are so bad Lucas had to dig up Maul to bring TCW ratings up.
@@larosha1what??? Why would you cancel Disney+?
Disney should just let Lucas work or supervised these sequel movies and rebrand it if they want to keep their crappy trilogy
So why did you decide to revitalize such an old and beloved franchise? “Hello, I like money”
I wish lucas stopped after return of the jedi. I'm sure we can live without the rest of the star wars films.
Darth Maul should not survive.
The decline of Star Wars started with the prequels and the absence of Marcia Lucas. This video is incorrect. Disney just hastened that decline. It got away from what Lucas was trying to explain about democracies and dictatorships and how evil rises and was grounded in WWII down to the tactics.
People are starting to realize after all this time George did it absolutely 💯 perfect while 😮Disney kept making sloppy jerks of them selves.
how pissed was he?
Lucas or Kennedy. Star Wars should'v been put to bed ages ago. These days you've got three generations in the same room arguing about what Star Wars means. Star Wars Is boring!
I thought the charm of the hero with thousand faces was coincidental charm. George actually being inspired by the trope kinda feels artificial now
Its start decline with the prequel trilogy. Lucas should just handover SW to timothy zahn and michael stackpole instead of KK
Too dope
Lucas ran out of decent ideas after ESB. And Lucas himself has said he made it all up as he went along. All he had were a few notes, not a whole backstory planned.
Oh....GL sold it to Disney
Look at HP and JKR vs JRR TOLKIEN. Literally the same story. Just remade for the new generation; so JKR PRETENDED SHE CREATED HER STORY 😂😂😂😂
It lost it's vision because it lost it's visionary: George, he was the brains behind the best films in the series and even the prequels are great because of him and his willingness to take some risk with the story. now we are left with a woke agenda sociopath running everything George built into the ground.
The prequels are still terrible, but at least they tried something new.
Do you hire a man to direct Barbie? Well, no.
Origjnal George Lucas sequels: the biggest robbey of all time
Rogue One was the last Star Wars film.
*RETURN STAR WARS BACK TO GEORGE LUCAS.*
Star Wars nerds are angry!
Imo, it was murdered by writing hacks who used political correctness and activisim to hide behind terrible writing.
I feel it’s just bad writing, If it had great writing and was trying to be politically correct no one would care. So it’s simply just the bad writing.
lol Andor is the most well received Star Wars show and it’s political as fuck. Try again.
@@remydixon I didnt say politics is bad in shows, I said the terrible writers use political slack-tavism as a shield to deflect critizism
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!! Why does everyone buy into this bullshit that "there was no plan for the long term?" There WAS a plan- but Kathleen Kennedy scrapped them because she fell in love with Rian Johnson's political ideas for Star Wars. That's why Rian was allowed to completely rerout the story and crush all the threads J.J. Abrams' started in Force Awakens. That's why K.K. immediately announced a brand new R.J. trilogy BEFORE the Last Jedi was released. (If you doubt that politics was involved, then ask yourself why, when the Supreme Court voided Roe v Wade and sent the abortion issue back to the states, did LUCASFILM posted in Twitter that they were going to watch The Last Jedi again?)
THIS is where the plot was lost and J.J. Abrams' long term plan.
The last good Star Wars was in 1981.
One of the problems is there is too many super Star Wars nerds like myself that have our own vision and the one that made it to big screen did not even come close so I did not even go see episode 9, I wish I didn't see 8. I thought 7 was okay.
Its William FRIEDKIN not Frederken, good video
In Disney's defense those shoes were some of most difficult shoes to fill, it doesn't matter who made the film I guarantee the films would never have gotten more than a 60 or 70 percent approval rating, there are too many different visions out there.
Yes starwars is totally dead
Let’s all finally admit it: Star Wars was pretty good till 1983 and that was mostly it.
It started long before the sale to Disney. I’m sorry, but the prequels ruined a lot of things starting with the force. They turned it from a spiritual concept that was about one’s connection with the universe and life itself into simple space magic ruled by microbes in one’s bloodstream. They ruined Anakin Skywalker, who was supposed to be a heroic figure and great friend and turned out to be a mopey, bratty stalker who was not established to be anything other than a bad egg from the get go. They also ruined Jedi, once the defenders of justice now just weird sexless monks who all talked like robots.
The prequels ruined so much … Disney just kept ruining it.
Go woke go broke.
Oh please shut up. The fans were divided since the prequel. And the prequel brought in new fans.
Its only divided because of toxic nerds that dont like change.
THATS WHY LUCAS SOLD IT😂
The expanded universe and the prequels exist because people wanted more Star Wars, not because Lucas had more story to tell. Not everything needs a backstory, and some things are better left to the imagination. In 16 years, Lucas couldn't come up with anything interesting enough to justify another trilogy, so he should have let it be. His edits to the originals were an early sign that the prequels wouldn't be good. Han is transformed from a no-nonsense rogue to a self-defence pussy. The subtlety of Vader's silent internal conflict is made explicit with a cartoonish exclamation. Jabba and Boba having cameos in ANH destroys our anticipation of finally seeing them in RotJ and ESB.
Similarly, the prequels spoil key revelations within the original trilogy. The reveal of Vader's true identity is robbed of its gravitas. Luke and Leia being siblings is no longer a twist. We already know that the humble Yoda is in fact a great Jedi Master, and we already know that the Emperor can shoot lightning bolts from his hands. It works so much better with him as a sinister offscreen presence until the penultimate chapter. It was always implied that Yoda and the Emperor had mastered the Force to such an extent that they no longer needed lightsabers, so their use of them in the prequels is totally out of character. It was also implied that the Emperor's grotesque appearance is what happens when you are consumed by the Dark Side, but the prequels ruined this with that idiotic scene where he fries himself with his rebounded lightning. Vader killing the younglings was a step too far. It wasn't necessary to include anything that sinister. The original trilogy now retroactively suggests that child murder is a redeemable offence. This is a reprehensible message, especially coming from a franchise that was primarily aimed at children.
The introduction of midichlorians is by far the most egregious mistake. It completely inverts our understanding of the Force, which until this point had been a mysterious cosmic energy that only gifted individuals could master. With dedication and discipline, one could attain telekinetic and telepathic abilities. Its nature and origins were intentionally vague, and this is why it worked. The Jedi, once the guardians of peace and justice, are transformed into dim-witted bureaucrats who are more concerned with tax disputes and abducting impressionable children. Because attachment is forbidden by the Jedi code, the children are not allowed any contact with their families. The Jedi also have no qualms about cloning sentient beings to use as cannon fodder, which makes them seem more villainous than the Separatists they fight against, who use only droids. It makes us wonder why Luke viewed them with such admiration. How can we root for protagonists who display more arrogance and hypocrisy than the supposed villains?
Star Wars has been pulled in every direction imaginable, first by an out-of-touch Lucas and now by the woke mob, and the damage has been irreparable. Hearing a pint size Anakin squealing “yippee” in TPM is unbearable. How can we take Darth Vader seriously after that? Star Wars was never intended to become as big as it did. It was a low budget movie inspired by Arthurian legend, WW2 and 50s sci-fi serials. In contrast to its humble origins, it became a sprawling corporate abomination. Disney then swallowed it up, and it devolved into self-insert fanfiction. Every character, no matter how fleeting, has been retconned with a stunning-and-brave backstory. This dead horse has been beaten so many times. It's just a puddle of glue now.
Bro I’m not reading that novel you just wrote. Tighten it up.
It's only four paragraphs, you lazy swine. I made the effort to write it, so you should at least attempt to read it.
It's only four paragraphs. You're lazy.
@@ArnoldTohtFanit’s a RUclips comment. You’re self-important.
Good points! 🙂
I was a bit disappointed that the creator of the video didn't spend much time focusing on the problems which existed with SW, even before Lucas sold to Disney.
i was the 420th like. 😎
We will never forget or forgive all the terrible things said and done by the woke pandering abomination known as modern day disney 😡
Space ships, fighter planes in space, sword fights, hero saves girl, laser guns, roguish space smugglers, terrifying guys in black...
Communal lesbian space witches and girl boss Mary Sue. Lando Calrissian doing the nasty with a droid. Riding a herd of My Little Pony across the deck of a Star Destroyer.
Your video is 15min too long, you should have started at 15:10 .Moreover you dont address any of the recent failures of Disney +(Mandalorian S3, Obi Wan, Ahsoka, Acolyte) or SOLO (1st sw movie that lost money), NO mention of Politics injected into storytelling by prioritycing female representation above good Story telling, impulsed by famously despised studio lead Kathleen Kennedy and supported by Disney chief Bob Iger. Thats of course if this is not some shity AI channel
because the 5 decades of political and historical influences drawn by lucas to make the prequels and OT weren’t political
but the introduction of a female MC is?
(ok tbh i dont like rey either, but ROS sucked due to it being rushed and unorganised not because was “injecting politics”, the lack of politics is the reason why TFA lacked behind the prequels)
@chocolatebar6785 just another case of typical brainrot seen in Critical Drinker viewers, tbh
Why do people still pretend that the prequels are good. Even with their flaws the sequel trilogy is better than the prequels
The prequels are total dogshit for sure besides some stand out sequences. I dont believe the Disney trilogy is better exactly but it certainly has more likeable/interesting characters and is better acted overall.
HARDLY, the prequals at least appeared to have a direction. the sequels seemed directionless.
@@framerofworlds9984 you might want to read my comment again, I clearly stated neither trilogy was enjoyable but let's be honest here. The acting in the Disney movies is leagues above the dry one note takes from the prequels, Palpatines actor excluded of course at least he was hamming it up and having a ball.
@@custardgannet4836he didn’t directly respond to you
The sequels are just shiny attempts at copying better older films. They had no plans on where they wanted to go with it.