If you look closely even though his arm is not straight down like WD the device is shaking so I would say he is doing close to his best. So no I don’t think he could get close to the 150 range. Just my opinion. Hope everyone has a great day.
@@ven4762 and likewise whistlindiesel or whatever isn't making it very far up even the easiest free solo routes. You think Honnold trains grip strength, or even cares about that number? Almost like people who train for skills get better at them...
Another thing as a climber not all climbers have the strongest grip strength like mine is quite weak but we understand the mechanics of how are fingers and whole body works so we don’t need to be able to have hood grip strength not that it doesn’t help wish mine was better
I also noticed that it looked like whistlin diesel trained for this or something😂😂, but alex nonchalantly holds it while reading it, it didnt look like was really putting any effort in...
@@Darth_Patatoe well that's bollocks, if you've ever tried climbing you'd know you need strength and power. It doesnt matter how little you weigh, gravity always weighs the same
Na its because rock climbers need muscular endurance to grip for hours and whistlin diesel works on cars which needs muscular power to undo nuts and bolts that hold trucks together and thats only for a couple seconds at a time
No it's different types of strength the most grip strength you will find is in mechanics anyone who turns wrenches for a living. All be it he may make RUclips videos he's a gearhead who turns wrenches makes cool stuff and makes videos of the cool stuff. Mose athletes have their entire physique built around their sport climbers are thin and light they don't have a lot of muscle because they don't have a lot of weight.
@@NuKe0clan0cod0videosAlex weighs 160lbs. He is capable of jumping to a higher position and holding himself with 1 hand alone. It is physically impossible that his grip strength is half of his own body weight if he has shown to be able to effortlessly hold himself with one arm
As a climber, most of us don’t actually have super strong grip strength. We’re actually taught how to grip only as strongly as necessary while climbing, so you conserve energy.
For those wondering, grip strength does not equal to endurance. Sure Whistling has a stronger grip but he can’t hold that grip strength for more than a couple seconds before passing out. However Alex can hold that strong 90-100lbs for hours, hence why is really good climber for being able to hold himself on those climbs for as long as he can. Also those rock climbers have stronger fingers than actual grip strength.
@@joooooonasssss Climbing requires isometric finger strength generally which is a lot different then closed grip squeezing strength. Climbers generally rely on flexor and tendon strength that enables them to hold a fixed hand position while hanging on extremely small edges, sometimes as small as 5mm. Here what he is doing is super impressive but he is using his full hand in a concentric squeezing motion as well as focusing his force far closer to the PIP joint of his fingers vs how a climber generally exerts force.
The way Alex did it is in a semi resting position the way diesel did it is straight down all muscles engaged but still big props to diesel for that grip strength
I also feel like there’s a difference between holding a grip at a specific weight and max strength. I can easily out wall sit people that can squat double of what I can.
@@haltorne6647 no. His sport is bodyweight based and endurance based. He only has the arm strength that's necessary to carry himself to great heights, that has nothing to do with pure strength. I'm betting the RUclipsr in this situation couldn't hang as long as the rock climber.
@@anthonydeveno4567 no that would mean he can sustain a less amount of power for a longer period of time that doesn’t make him stronger it makes him more conditioned unlike your brain
I dont think so. The issue is that the device tests forearm powered grip strength. Not finger tendon grip strength. Theres a difference, and rock climbers use finger tendon grip strength more than forearm grip strength.
@@GrandmasterFlex I can deadlift 700lbs +. I can make it look easy. That doesn't mean it is. Making great force look effortless is exactly athletes do. Also, I know his squeeze grip sucks because the forearms are one muscle that always grows in size when strengthened. They don't have a "lengthened" position besides bending back which is limited by your wrist structure. His forearms aren't much larger than his wrists. His squeeze grip sucks. That's ok. That doesn't make him week. Just better at different things.
Thing is, I never saw these things as validation, just as boys being boys. I would grip the shit out of that machine, and then wait patiently to see who "beats" me.
whistilin diesel doesnt either, just cause soleone does it doesnt nean there trying to impress anyone. hes just showin, alex doesnt have a tank..nor a un plugged one. or w monster truck, or many more so
Cody still used one hand though. Still 186 lbs is a lot. I’ve done this when I was younger I’m 24 now when I was 17 I hit 50-60 lbs. and I’m 24 and I hit 130
@@ben_pedelty another dumb musclehead, Alex has better endurance and can hold his grip for hours while whistling had to put all of his strength in one pull
That don’t mean nothing, I work on railway and grip strength test is done each year for health checks. Myself and another skinny guy do about 180, most the other guys are between 80 and 120
Bruh Alex weigh 160-165 and is 5'11" he's average sized, quite literally. He is intentionally not gripping it strongly. Also look at the difference in grip technique lol, whistling uses a form that allows you a stronger grip while Alex does it in a very casual way
Jesus guys, you're all wrong. The issue is finger tendon strength (climber grip) vs forearm strength (squeeze grip). That device only tests the latter, which climbers dont need to and generally dont train
@@zekeolopwi6642yep. While the farmer, which most seem to forget whistling was until blowing up, work forearm and grip endurance/strength for 12hr days. There's a reason the exercise, farmers carry, received its name and why it's known for blowing up grip strength as an exercise. When you look at power lifting or strong man training, a lot of the exercises have roots in movements you experience doing hard labor. Same reason almost any blue collar labor worker destroys this test too. Those jobs build functional strength with much higher weight load for longer durations than a climber ever would see on any targeted body part. Also have to remember that a lot of the weight is pretty distributed between the legs and arms unless you're hanging from a ledge as a climber.
good display of difference between fast and slow muscle twitch. WD being a fast twitch that can’t be held for long periods and Alex’s obviously vice versa
Also, Im pretty sure it's a bit of a different kind of grip strenght needed for climbing(depending a bit on the kind of hold you're doing), compared to like deadlifting or strenght training in general.
he’s so humble😭 and it’s not excuses for why he got such a low number you can clearly tell he’s being humble look at the difference in the way whistling tries his very hardest and how alex looks as if he barely tries
It's actually the healthy adult male average. Lower would be signs of current and upcoming health problems. I thought it was low to, less than half my own... looked it up though. His is normal.
Alex also did it in a position to curl where whistlin was holding his arm straight down allowing for a far different muscle group engagement, so this comparison is straight bullshit. I'm over 200 on both hands holding it like whistlin and only 60s holding it like Alex. That makes me think Alex would destroy him if they did a proper comparison.
@@AshenAlphaI have manual (spring) grip trainers and i can click the handles together at 60kg (132lb) in both hands in the curl position for 3 sets of 10 reps. Forearm circumference only around 11" at the largest and I'm far from cut. I could probably get close to WD's max with my arm straight down and I'm built like a slightly thinner Andy Milonokis
My friend bought one of those and took it to school and tested all of his teachers and our shop teacher has been an ironworker his whole career tested at 283.6lbs
Well I agree with the endurence thing but his grip is stronger that the military style guy, I belive I saw a kg on Alex's machine meaning his machine was in kilo while the military style guy's in pounds.🤔 185 pounds = 83,9 kg Military guy did it with his strongest hand going full strength Alex did 72kg (=158,73 pounds) with weak hand and 94,8 kg with strong hand meaning 208,99 pounds. Also he did it with ease unlike the first guy
@@catfan__ You must have never done a sport, because excess force weakens you in seconds. That is why Honnold doesnt need to be a boldy builder. Instead, he is very thin and his grip strength is exactly enough for what he needs.
I don’t think excess force tires you. Using excess energy does. The point of training endurance is to make the muscle stronger and more efficient. So the muscle will be able to produce the same amount of power (or more) by using less resources. Honnold got asked to go for maximum power. He had no reason to hold back.
Man based off the comments you can tell how many people have never done hard manual labor 🤣 i had 236 when i was 20. Working in a factory throwing 6000, 200 Lb engine blocks work 12 days on, 2 days off for a few years. In 115-140 degree heat. Man i dont miss that shit. Did it for like 6 years, quit recently. Kinda makes me want to try climbing tbh
WhistlinDeisel also works with cars a lot, he has hands that where designed to grab hard onto things. Alex can lock that grip in for hours on end though. Strong but in short bursts, and still strong but in extremely long periods.
@@DPain82I don’t think he’s that skinny, I believe he’s around 155lbs. His grip strength might not be crazy but he’s INSANELY strong in ways that most humans are not. Their is footage of him hanging off a several thousand foot cliff with one hand while he rests the other. This is a man that has free climbed a 3000 foot granite cliff with nothing but his strength in less than 4 hours. In my opinion, Alex’s free climb of El Captain is the most impressive Physical feat that Man has ever done. My comment isn’t supposed to be argumentative by the way, I just wanted to inform and give some people who see this a little bit of insight on who Alex Honnold is and what he has accomplished and what he is capable of.
Soldier dude gave it every fiber in he’s body, in a power stance. The climber, pressed that thing pretty casually with bend arms, while talking casually not having to take a Hard breath.
@@josh1234857dude was like 100 miles from his home so guessing based of what we know it was actually an accident cause chaff aka what's left after corn is harvested aka the corn field he drove through has a low ignition point and is dry allowing it to be easily flammable allowing the heat from an engine to start a fire if it was pressed against it in volume like you can see also the friction from the brakes etc would also cause ignition
I knew a guy that had a 250lbs hand grip strength trainer. No one could do it but him. Many of us couldn't do it with both arms pushing inward. He held 2 black belts in judo and aikido. We were just kids so it was incredibly impressive. He was an airmen, then a state trooper for 20 years. Retired by 45 and he started a gym(as you would). Dude was 6'2 280lbs and not fat at all. Had certificates for killing bad guys and saving lives. I know it's all hard to believe but these people are real. He one night got wasted on the town, went on a rampage and destroyed a car with his bare hands. It looked like it had been hit by an 18 wheeler. He paid for the damages so no charges were filed.
Yes bur Diesel also used the force of his arm while alex only used his fingers, If you push your forearm down into a squeeze you are getting both the force from your palm and fingers while alex held it straight and kept his forearm bent meaning the applied force was only coming from his fingers
I remember watching Free Solo just watching him climb El Capitain with no safety gear is inspiring. The amount of planning that went into that was insane.
Hahaha... First guy, deep grip straight arm, tucked chin, holding his breath, max effort veins popping.... Alex, chill, talking, bent arm arm and finger tip grip, zero strain or stress... not even comparable.
What no one realizes is that Alex is our spiderman in the multiverse. He has to hold back his grip or he would destroy the tester and risk exposing himself.
I have the same brand of grip tester as well. If it's adjusted badly, IE the handle almost fully extended like Alex honnald's is, it bottoms out and won't go past 80-100. Properly adjusted you can get better numbers. Also grip strength doesn't necessarily equate to crimp or edge holding strength either which is more what climbers end up training unless they're working on pinch style holds
He himself also often said that his upper body strength is way behind that of many climbers he knows. But as you said with technique that isn't a problem. 95% of the time you just hold onto the wall so you don't fall and push yourself up with your feet. No extraordinary grip strength necessary.
Pretty good at arm wrestling too. I'm not very big but back in the day when I was still on the tools I was at a party with ~8 other tradies and labourers where for some reason everyone started doing arm wrestles, I beat all of them both left and right handed 😂 some of them actually started to get angry 😂
True. Also Alex was using it to test resting grip strength while diesel was using more muscles and exerting more overall energy to do it as hard as he could
Yeah those testers are pretty dumb, one of my buddies brought that thing to work and my out of shape mechanic ass can do 170lb with minimal effort and I know both these dudes way stronger than me
@@juicygalaxy773 lol I'm not that out of shape I guess, could use to lose 15-20lb but I can still bench two plates with no problem. Gotta get on my cardio game and lose some weight.
Alex is an endurance climber. This actually isn't surprising. Alex is small and has a low body weight, with what he does, his body doesn't need crazy strength, his forearms are trained to carry a little weight a long way. Where as whistlendielsel could carry a heavy weight for a little time. Your body adapts to what you train it for
Cody grew up on a farm, it takes that much grip strength to take a pioneer hydraulic fitting apart. I used to do it one handed but I've never seen a grip strength test until now
Alex is perfect for climbing, every climber ever has respect for alex, he isnt built for strength in bulk, he walks a fine line between strength and agility
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Alex wasn't really trying, he was just chilling.
Regardless, he's not reaching 186
@@ven4762 I mean if he puts little to no effort… he can easily reach 186 maybe even higher if, again, he’s not trying
@@EveryoneGamesOnlineno, he couldnt reach 185 he isn’t strong enough, hes known to be a great climber not strong
If you look closely even though his arm is not straight down like WD the device is shaking so I would say he is doing close to his best. So no I don’t think he could get close to the 150 range. Just my opinion. Hope everyone has a great day.
@@ven4762 and likewise whistlindiesel or whatever isn't making it very far up even the easiest free solo routes. You think Honnold trains grip strength, or even cares about that number? Almost like people who train for skills get better at them...
It’s also helpful to note that Alex can hold that grip strength for hours and hours on end. Not just a short burst of strength.
I mean, he has to....or he dies.
Another thing as a climber not all climbers have the strongest grip strength like mine is quite weak but we understand the mechanics of how are fingers and whole body works so we don’t need to be able to have hood grip strength not that it doesn’t help wish mine was better
Agreed, strength with endurance
YES! YOU SAID IT!!
I also noticed that it looked like whistlin diesel trained for this or something😂😂, but alex nonchalantly holds it while reading it, it didnt look like was really putting any effort in...
That dude can do pull-ups with his fingers and suspend his entire body weight with them he’s an absolute beast
He probably only weighs his strongest grip strength 😂
@@DDGTLM1811As someone who kind of has that build, he’s probably 150 lbs
Makes sense the guy who works on cars all day has better grip than a climber
I swear Alex is the definition of “look weak when your strong” and he’s always so damn humble what a gent
apathy not humility. It's not that he didn't want to show off. He just didn't care.
@@Luke-xt6pkhis friends call him "no big deal" because he pulls off amazing free solo climbs, but acts like he's just an average weekender.
Get his meat out your mouth
It's because he's basically if not actually autistic 😂 he's such a G
you're
Climbers are incredible at locking their grip in, not actively squeezing things
100% also being able to grip that same weight 1000 times without a sweat.
Here for this, it's not just unidirectional grip it's the whole entire hand
Only reason he can climb is becuase he a twig. So he doesn’t need strength
@@Darth_Patatoe well that's bollocks, if you've ever tried climbing you'd know you need strength and power. It doesnt matter how little you weigh, gravity always weighs the same
@@Darth_Patatoewelp ur comment just said ur dumb 😂
Alex is someone to always be humble as well as not put in effort to things that just don't matter to him at all.
Seems like you know the guy more than he knows himself 😂😂
Na its because rock climbers need muscular endurance to grip for hours and whistlin diesel works on cars which needs muscular power to undo nuts and bolts that hold trucks together and thats only for a couple seconds at a time
The big difference is not about strength it's about stamina.
Are you coping for him rn😂😂😂
100%
Man...
I feel like I'm back in high school trying to explain to the muscle heads the difference between endurance and bulk.
In this situation i would also cite form on their differences
I mean one wasnt even trying 😂 you dont gotta explain anything
Why not have a mix of both just cause you run dosent give an excuses to be skinny
I mean, we comparing a dude with balls the size of a planet and a you tuber. When whistling can free solo a turd I'll be impressed
for a climber the mix is a bad thing less weight = easier time on the wall@@justatroll6263
Whistlindiesel got that door slammin strength
hodor!!
Yo that holding of for dear life strength
That screen punchin strength
100% Alex probably watched someone else go first, and decided to make them feel special. He's just that kind of Man's Man.
What counts is how long you can maintain that grip, rocks don't display numbers and turn into stairs when you squeeze them.
They were using different positions for the squeeze. Alex was talking calmly while doing it and distlinwiesel might have started 😂
Why are you simping for a guy you’ll never even see irl 😂😂😂
Strength in the backs of his hands an fingers is where he's a menace
@@stiepanholkien605agreed, but I'm fairly sure his grip strength is consistently above 150
That is a perfect example of what being humble is
No it's different types of strength the most grip strength you will find is in mechanics anyone who turns wrenches for a living. All be it he may make RUclips videos he's a gearhead who turns wrenches makes cool stuff and makes videos of the cool stuff. Mose athletes have their entire physique built around their sport climbers are thin and light they don't have a lot of muscle because they don't have a lot of weight.
@@NuKe0clan0cod0videos you don't understand what I'm trying to say but it's ok
No that’s a perfect example of what being weak is
@@NuKe0clan0cod0videosAlex weighs 160lbs. He is capable of jumping to a higher position and holding himself with 1 hand alone. It is physically impossible that his grip strength is half of his own body weight if he has shown to be able to effortlessly hold himself with one arm
@@PapiAndrey💀 no shot you just called Alex weak
As a climber, most of us don’t actually have super strong grip strength. We’re actually taught how to grip only as strongly as necessary while climbing, so you conserve energy.
For those wondering, grip strength does not equal to endurance. Sure Whistling has a stronger grip but he can’t hold that grip strength for more than a couple seconds before passing out. However Alex can hold that strong 90-100lbs for hours, hence why is really good climber for being able to hold himself on those climbs for as long as he can. Also those rock climbers have stronger fingers than actual grip strength.
Eh that's close, I dont work out at all and i can lock my muscles in places gor awhile
@@Sparky-001 Wow look at mr different over here
@@thericepotato5847 what? All i said was he is wrong. But ok buddy 👍
there's an important distinction between raw grip strength and being able to support your entire body weight with only your fingertips
Delete your pfp now!😡
@@joooooonasssssThe difference is squeezing a toy and literally having your life at your fingertips.
@@joooooonasssss Climbing requires isometric finger strength generally which is a lot different then closed grip squeezing strength. Climbers generally rely on flexor and tendon strength that enables them to hold a fixed hand position while hanging on extremely small edges, sometimes as small as 5mm. Here what he is doing is super impressive but he is using his full hand in a concentric squeezing motion as well as focusing his force far closer to the PIP joint of his fingers vs how a climber generally exerts force.
@@m_a_d_12I like your comment because the way the first comment is worded I disagreed with but they way you explain it makes sense
Being able to hold a consistent pressure
My boy is in a suit... he released 1% of his power to prevent ripping the sharp suit. Got to respect the a gentleman's suit
What is bro yapping about 💀💀💀💀💀
the a gentleman's suit
how would a suit effect grip strength
Even if he wasn’t trying he should still be somewhat close to whistlings result.
😂
The way Alex did it is in a semi resting position the way diesel did it is straight down all muscles engaged but still big props to diesel for that grip strength
Whistlindiesel is still on top 💪🏼
Alex was barely sqezzing those. Extremely humble dude
Man’s hands were shaking
I also feel like there’s a difference between holding a grip at a specific weight and max strength. I can easily out wall sit people that can squat double of what I can.
@@cokebottles6919muscle strength vs muscle endurance
Weaker grip provides more endurance.
@@blakeb9826no they were not 😭
Alex’a talent doesn’t come from just strength it’s really his flexibility and technique that gets him these titles
and his supernatural ability to defy gravity with those massive brass balls he lugs up the mountainside, freehand!
And autism, alot of autism
He's not trying at all... I believe He's just showing the strength He's a le to sustain, not the absolute maximum he can do over a few seconds.
also his insane stamina
He also obviously isn’t trying as hard as the RUclipsr guy
Yet whistlindiesel is never gonna free solo el cap. Alex honnold is in my opinion, the most amazing athlete in history
How many push ups can you do?
Alex: all of em
Definitely accurate comparison seeing one guy flexes with all his strength while the other casually holds it reasonably tight.
I’m pretty sure he was joking around in this video
Alex is an endurance athlete. You wouldn’t expect kipchoge to beat bolt in a race
If it was a long race I would.
The comment I was looking for. Stamina and power are very different.
But i would expect Kipchoge to probably beat the average youtuber who isn’t even a youtuber known for running lol
@@haltorne6647 no. His sport is bodyweight based and endurance based. He only has the arm strength that's necessary to carry himself to great heights, that has nothing to do with pure strength. I'm betting the RUclipsr in this situation couldn't hang as long as the rock climber.
Bolt as in the dog with a blog?
Alex is an extremely humble man he doesn’t want anyone to know his true power
It’s not just his grip strength guys it’s his entire body weight and skeletal structure that allows him to climb so well.
Now tell him to hold that grip force output for 2 mins
Why
@@justincasehd7524 because clearly that would show who’s stronger….
@@anthonydeveno4567it shows who has more strength endurance not strength capacity
@@Jay-kh4sz and that would mean he’s over all stronger yes thank you
@@anthonydeveno4567 no that would mean he can sustain a less amount of power for a longer period of time that doesn’t make him stronger it makes him more conditioned unlike your brain
Love how he isn't even trying, he's just like "yeah whatever"
and still quite better than the average strength
the average person is pretty weak, so it's not really a good metric@@SDSypher
@@craigmg2052 and?
He just did what he felt like doing at the Tim.
@@SDSypherand that means that what you said Isn’t true
Alex was handling that thing like it was a priceless faberge egg. 😊
I dont think so. The issue is that the device tests forearm powered grip strength. Not finger tendon grip strength. Theres a difference, and rock climbers use finger tendon grip strength more than forearm grip strength.
@@zekeolopwi6642Alex literally doesn’t look like he’s trying at all, his arm isn’t extended, nor is he shaking from the force he’s exerting.
@@GrandmasterFlex I can deadlift 700lbs +. I can make it look easy. That doesn't mean it is. Making great force look effortless is exactly athletes do. Also, I know his squeeze grip sucks because the forearms are one muscle that always grows in size when strengthened. They don't have a "lengthened" position besides bending back which is limited by your wrist structure. His forearms aren't much larger than his wrists. His squeeze grip sucks. That's ok. That doesn't make him week. Just better at different things.
@@zekeolopwi6642but look at the movements both of them did
Alex is so comfortable in his own skin. Doesn't need some tool to validate him. Gotta love that
@@ChiefAssetthis is the most insecure comment you could have made. Sleep tight bozo
Double meaning
@@ChiefAsset'guy gives compliment to someone's
You: 'wow you're just being nice because you can't do that'
What went through your head?
Thing is, I never saw these things as validation, just as boys being boys. I would grip the shit out of that machine, and then wait patiently to see who "beats" me.
whistilin diesel doesnt either, just cause soleone does it doesnt nean there trying to impress anyone. hes just showin, alex doesnt have a tank..nor a un plugged one. or w monster truck, or many more so
The difference between knowing you need to prove yourself and knowing youve already proved yourself.
There is also a difference in grip strength depending on how your arm is positioned along with if your wrist is twisted.
Whistlin turned his hand over and put more into that squeeze. Alex kept his palms up and was visibly exerting less effort overall
That’s Alex’s fault
A supine grip (palms outward) would exert more force than a palms down grip
@@ithinkweregoingtoneedabigg8525idk how true this is but everyone ive seen do a grip test have had a higher score with palms down rather than out
@@ithinkweregoingtoneedabigg8525oh yea?? Would you exert more, nerd?
Cody still used one hand though. Still 186 lbs is a lot. I’ve done this when I was younger I’m 24 now when I was 17 I hit 50-60 lbs. and I’m 24 and I hit 130
His arm was a 45 degree angel, he was in a suit and was barley trying😂
The freezing angel: 😇 🥶
Whos barary
That's why his hand is shaking when he's barely trying hub
@@outlawtrux6766compared to diesel wincing and flexing his entire body yes. He didn’t try at All
You arm is supposed to be at 45 as well.
As a fellow cody, i still side with alex lol dudes a true gentleman.
“186 that’s not to bad”
Not to bad that’s awsome
Whistling almost gave himself a hernia, Alex continued speaking the entire time
still double 🤣
@@ben_pedeltybet whistling won't try to free solo anything
@@duckmn56 still double
Good ol whistling
@@ben_pedelty another dumb musclehead, Alex has better endurance and can hold his grip for hours while whistling had to put all of his strength in one pull
People forget alex has bird bones and weighs like 120 something. Dude could hold himself up by a feather
120 pounds = to a feather is craaaazy….
That don’t mean nothing, I work on railway and grip strength test is done each year for health checks. Myself and another skinny guy do about 180, most the other guys are between 80 and 120
186 is still insane
Im 1 thousand like
Bruh Alex weigh 160-165 and is 5'11" he's average sized, quite literally. He is intentionally not gripping it strongly. Also look at the difference in grip technique lol, whistling uses a form that allows you a stronger grip while Alex does it in a very casual way
Cody’s got farm life strength
Alex knew he would break the machine with even 10% of his full raw power
It's not all about his grip strength. It's about his ability to maintain that strength for hours on end.
let's be honest he didn't even try 😂😂
Jesus guys, you're all wrong. The issue is finger tendon strength (climber grip) vs forearm strength (squeeze grip). That device only tests the latter, which climbers dont need to and generally dont train
@@zekeolopwi6642yep. While the farmer, which most seem to forget whistling was until blowing up, work forearm and grip endurance/strength for 12hr days. There's a reason the exercise, farmers carry, received its name and why it's known for blowing up grip strength as an exercise. When you look at power lifting or strong man training, a lot of the exercises have roots in movements you experience doing hard labor.
Same reason almost any blue collar labor worker destroys this test too. Those jobs build functional strength with much higher weight load for longer durations than a climber ever would see on any targeted body part. Also have to remember that a lot of the weight is pretty distributed between the legs and arms unless you're hanging from a ledge as a climber.
Anyone who chooses to live out of their car, just so they can be closer to their next climb is more humble than I'll ever be.
No reply’s what
good display of difference between fast and slow muscle twitch. WD being a fast twitch that can’t be held for long periods and Alex’s obviously vice versa
Different levels of effort put in
Can we get one with Alex actually trying?
He won't like to break the equipment
@@udaykadam5455 it won’t break it, it will bottom out before it breaks
@@SRT_TY329nah bro the shit will get crush.
Exactly Alex was chill faced just doing what he felt was the max. There's a difference between feeling you max and doing your max
Ok but who you choosing if your both hanging off cliff and you pick who is both holding on and holding you...
Alex's impressive ability is not a huge grip strength but the ability to hold it for hours
Also, Im pretty sure it's a bit of a different kind of grip strenght needed for climbing(depending a bit on the kind of hold you're doing), compared to like deadlifting or strenght training in general.
@@Fubasta yeah
@@Fubastaits literally strength vs endurance
Alex is super elite tier athlete and whistlin diesel is fb famous… no comparison at all
The difference is endurance....
Alex is a beast....
he’s so humble😭 and it’s not excuses for why he got such a low number you can clearly tell he’s being humble look at the difference in the way whistling tries his very hardest and how alex looks as if he barely tries
Plus the mf makes like 300 videos specifically about this machine, he learned the technique
@@chachasteak628that makes this sooooo much cringier than
It's actually the healthy adult male average. Lower would be signs of current and upcoming health problems. I thought it was low to, less than half my own... looked it up though. His is normal.
Yet Alex is clearly trying his hardest lol his arm was shaking when he gripped it
Climbing grip is mostly static. You only need extreme power for roofs and overnhangs.
Whistlin was putting everything he had into that, Alex was barely doing anything lol
he was trying to limit the muscle involvement, for some reason. Grip is grip, though. He should have gone all out
Alex also did it in a position to curl where whistlin was holding his arm straight down allowing for a far different muscle group engagement, so this comparison is straight bullshit. I'm over 200 on both hands holding it like whistlin and only 60s holding it like Alex. That makes me think Alex would destroy him if they did a proper comparison.
@chd8280 yea I don't work out at all but if I do the grip downward like WD I've gotten 140, and when held like Alex was I'm in the 50-70 range
@@AshenAlphaI have manual (spring) grip trainers and i can click the handles together at 60kg (132lb) in both hands in the curl position for 3 sets of 10 reps. Forearm circumference only around 11" at the largest and I'm far from cut. I could probably get close to WD's max with my arm straight down and I'm built like a slightly thinner Andy Milonokis
First guy also cheated. You must have 90 degree angle like second guy did.
My friend bought one of those and took it to school and tested all of his teachers and our shop teacher has been an ironworker his whole career tested at 283.6lbs
This was the best one
Alex’s strength is not necessarily based in power though, its endurance based - can likely hold that 75 lb grip for over 4 hours
Thank you. The video should be making this point. Gonna pass on his other uploads.
Well I agree with the endurence thing but his grip is stronger that the military style guy,
I belive I saw a kg on Alex's machine meaning his machine was in kilo while the military style guy's in pounds.🤔
185 pounds = 83,9 kg
Military guy did it with his strongest hand going full strength
Alex did 72kg (=158,73 pounds) with weak hand and 94,8 kg with strong hand meaning 208,99 pounds.
Also he did it with ease unlike the first guy
Plus rock climbers don't squeeze, they lock off open hand grips
Exactly
@@obscurio1353alex himself said 95 pounds so i don’t think it’s set in kilo’s
alex using only fore arms, whistling using his whole soul
You guys aren’t thinking. A weaker grip is more efficient. Gives him more endurance.
@@Immigrantlovesamericayeah no, more force means more muscle power exerted over less area
@@catfan__ You must have never done a sport, because excess force weakens you in seconds. That is why Honnold doesnt need to be a boldy builder. Instead, he is very thin and his grip strength is exactly enough for what he needs.
I don’t think excess force tires you. Using excess energy does. The point of training endurance is to make the muscle stronger and more efficient. So the muscle will be able to produce the same amount of power (or more) by using less resources.
Honnold got asked to go for maximum power. He had no reason to hold back.
Slurping his meat are ya? Don’t forget to wipe your mouth …. And face
Man based off the comments you can tell how many people have never done hard manual labor 🤣 i had 236 when i was 20. Working in a factory throwing 6000, 200 Lb engine blocks work 12 days on, 2 days off for a few years. In 115-140 degree heat. Man i dont miss that shit. Did it for like 6 years, quit recently. Kinda makes me want to try climbing tbh
WhistlinDeisel also works with cars a lot, he has hands that where designed to grab hard onto things. Alex can lock that grip in for hours on end though. Strong but in short bursts, and still strong but in extremely long periods.
They held the instrument in different ways.
95 lb grip strength on a 115 lb man is pretty impressive...
Alex wasn't trying.
@@DPain82I don’t think he’s that skinny, I believe he’s around 155lbs. His grip strength might not be crazy but he’s INSANELY strong in ways that most humans are not. Their is footage of him hanging off a several thousand foot cliff with one hand while he rests the other. This is a man that has free climbed a 3000 foot granite cliff with nothing but his strength in less than 4 hours. In my opinion, Alex’s free climb of El Captain is the most impressive Physical feat that Man has ever done. My comment isn’t supposed to be argumentative by the way, I just wanted to inform and give some people who see this a little bit of insight on who Alex Honnold is and what he has accomplished and what he is capable of.
Dudes wearing tactical gear in front of his monster truck 😂 definitely trying to make up for something
@@agawied2910hes just fucking around lmao have you seen any of his videos? He's not being serious lol
115lbs? Bro he’s the same size if not bigger than me and I’m 150-155lb on any given day.
Soldier dude gave it every fiber in he’s body, in a power stance.
The climber, pressed that thing pretty casually with bend arms, while talking casually not having to take a Hard breath.
haha soldier dude. if only you knew
His Ferrari just burned the ground
@@Vex22778yeah it “just burned down” xD
@@josh1234857dude was like 100 miles from his home so guessing based of what we know it was actually an accident cause chaff aka what's left after corn is harvested aka the corn field he drove through has a low ignition point and is dry allowing it to be easily flammable allowing the heat from an engine to start a fire if it was pressed against it in volume like you can see also the friction from the brakes etc would also cause ignition
@@robertbrunner4379 I didn’t see the video. But it’s whistlin diesel I doubt anything he does to a vehicle is accident.
Alex was chilling
Yeah, I can tell you right now. Alex was being very humble and not squeezing it as hard as he actually could
Alex just channels his strength and focuses for hours at a time.
alex never activated his triceps, mans was being humble with it
Literally impossible to pronate your hand and squeeze something without feeling it in your tricep
I nearly broke the one for my first big paying job. All the nurses were telling me whoa whoa whoa stop, and I just barely even started.
Alex can't be compared to us humans. He's a different kinda talent
One of the only RUclips operators who has a plate that fits him
His plate carrier is way oversized
@@aydenwapasha3380the spacing between his collar bone and navel seem correct.
Maybe a bit high.
“Operator” 😂
@@supersoni126 the term *RUclips* operator in its self is the quotations lmao
Calm down larpers
I knew a guy that had a 250lbs hand grip strength trainer. No one could do it but him. Many of us couldn't do it with both arms pushing inward. He held 2 black belts in judo and aikido. We were just kids so it was incredibly impressive. He was an airmen, then a state trooper for 20 years. Retired by 45 and he started a gym(as you would). Dude was 6'2 280lbs and not fat at all. Had certificates for killing bad guys and saving lives. I know it's all hard to believe but these people are real. He one night got wasted on the town, went on a rampage and destroyed a car with his bare hands. It looked like it had been hit by an 18 wheeler. He paid for the damages so no charges were filed.
Yes bur Diesel also used the force of his arm while alex only used his fingers, If you push your forearm down into a squeeze you are getting both the force from your palm and fingers while alex held it straight and kept his forearm bent meaning the applied force was only coming from his fingers
It’s not only about grip strength, it’s about endurance. How long and consistent and in different ways you can grip
I remember watching Free Solo just watching him climb El Capitain with no safety gear is inspiring. The amount of planning that went into that was insane.
Mechanics and firemen fucking destroy everyone else on that thing. 💪💪
Hahaha... First guy, deep grip straight arm, tucked chin, holding his breath, max effort veins popping.... Alex, chill, talking, bent arm arm and finger tip grip, zero strain or stress... not even comparable.
What no one realizes is that Alex is our spiderman in the multiverse. He has to hold back his grip or he would destroy the tester and risk exposing himself.
I have the same brand of grip tester as well. If it's adjusted badly, IE the handle almost fully extended like Alex honnald's is, it bottoms out and won't go past 80-100. Properly adjusted you can get better numbers.
Also grip strength doesn't necessarily equate to crimp or edge holding strength either which is more what climbers end up training unless they're working on pinch style holds
The people are missing here is the body weight + grip strength.
The true grip strength in rock climbers is how tightly they can lock their grip, not how tightly they can grip with force
it’s not just about grip strength it’s also about technique
He himself also often said that his upper body strength is way behind that of many climbers he knows. But as you said with technique that isn't a problem. 95% of the time you just hold onto the wall so you don't fall and push yourself up with your feet. No extraordinary grip strength necessary.
Aaaaand body weight would play a huge part of it.
They are taking about grip strength
@@aniekanhanson-bassey6877 Reread the first 6 words of the original comment
Honestly his whole body and mental headspace is insane. It's like he was built as a climbing machine
The way he intentionally pulled the average with his dominant hand, just to flex... that's... art
This exactly. He got it at almost perfectly average. How unlikely
Alex didnt wanna break it so he was gentle haha
WD always comes out on top 🤷♂️
Just shows how insanely technical Alex Honnold is.
And how little he weighs relative to grip strength.
@@Aubatron Berserk
@@AubatronIf you ever tried rock climbing its not grip strength that matters but grip endurance.
@@jasonphan2001 from what I remember it was both
@@jasonphan2001dependent on the hold, weather condition on the rock, type of rock. Many variables..
This is a classic example of endurance over strength. Alex could hold his max for 100x longer than that kid could.
“Than that kid” ok bud. Whistilindeisel didn’t claim anything he just showed off his strength nobody said anything about what ur trying to argue
somebodies sensitive
Thats that blue collar strength baby
Whistling diesel and the stuff he be driving I’m not surprised
Most mechanics have insane grip strength.
Pretty good at arm wrestling too. I'm not very big but back in the day when I was still on the tools I was at a party with ~8 other tradies and labourers where for some reason everyone started doing arm wrestles, I beat all of them both left and right handed 😂 some of them actually started to get angry 😂
Climbers don’t use the kind of grip strength that machine tests. Alex is strong as FUCK
True. Also Alex was using it to test resting grip strength while diesel was using more muscles and exerting more overall energy to do it as hard as he could
@@cortwomble6766it’s so obvious Alex was only using 0.1 percent of his power
@@cortwomble6766whislin also is putting his thumb on the 'pull' tab. No hate, but rockclimber has much stronger grip, idgaf lol
Yeah, he also only needs to hold his bodyweight, but for hours at a time, that's very different from maximum squeeze
Yup and that other dude wouldn’t make it 30 feet up the face of anything he’s ever climbed
that the difference between strong and endurance
What's important to realize is that raw strength is much different than endurance.
Power vs endurance, both are impressive. Honnolds achievements in climbing are some of the most amazing by any human ever.
Grip strength and stamina are completely different monsters
Calmness in strength
Oh children. Look how relaxed he is and the way he is holding it 😅 minimal effort
Yeah those testers are pretty dumb, one of my buddies brought that thing to work and my out of shape mechanic ass can do 170lb with minimal effort and I know both these dudes way stronger than me
he’s shaking when he does it 😂
@@arc00tait’s called “mechanic grip” even though you may be out of shape your hands and forearms are stronger because of the work you do
@@arc00tabeing outta shape has nothing to do with strength if what you’re doing involves a lot of work with your hands and arms tbf
@@juicygalaxy773 lol I'm not that out of shape I guess, could use to lose 15-20lb but I can still bench two plates with no problem. Gotta get on my cardio game and lose some weight.
Alex is an endurance climber. This actually isn't surprising. Alex is small and has a low body weight, with what he does, his body doesn't need crazy strength, his forearms are trained to carry a little weight a long way. Where as whistlendielsel could carry a heavy weight for a little time. Your body adapts to what you train it for
Precisely 🙌🏼
Realy W D is a half pint!!!!!
Exactly, diesel wouldn't last half a minute on some of the stuff the rock climber has climbed
Bro Alex has bouldered v11 and climbed 5.14, he’s strong as FUCK. Climbers don’t use squeezing grip very often at all, it’s more of a static grip
@larryvance2817 you say that till knocks your dumb ass into the next life for underestimating you opponent
My boy Alex was like Goku taking it easy on the punching machine before tournament in Majin Bu Saga. 🤔
First video with WD I've seen where something expensive wasn't destroyed.
I get Bradley Martin "but I'm 260" energy 😭😭
Best comment!!😂
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Alex doing normal guy strength feels like the Z fighters masking their power for a world tournament qualification test.
Hahaha best comment 🤣
@@anthonycoryell9936agreed!
bro has more than a police officers strength because of that door slammin
Cody grew up on a farm, it takes that much grip strength to take a pioneer hydraulic fitting apart. I used to do it one handed but I've never seen a grip strength test until now
Alex is perfect for climbing, every climber ever has respect for alex, he isnt built for strength in bulk, he walks a fine line between strength and agility
Whistlin has that “shot in the head and lived” strength
he also has a “battered to a pulp as an infant and lived” face
Climbing isn't about strength... it's about using your head and muscle endurance.