Ground in PCB Layout - Separate or Not Separate? (with Rick Hartley)

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  • Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
  • Do you separate Digital GND and Analogue GND, or not? What do you think is better?
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    - Robert

Комментарии • 529

  • @synth0022
    @synth0022 2 года назад +53

    Since graduating university I've been extremely frustrated at the slow pace and lack of learning opportunities in employment. This is gold, the stuff that companies want to drip feed over a decade, and even then it might not be right! Rick has done a great service in sharing his knowledge.

  • @piscopatos
    @piscopatos 3 года назад +99

    thank you Rob. This is great. World needs people like you.

    • @RobertFeranec
      @RobertFeranec  3 года назад +4

      Thank you Bilen

    • @MARUTI96
      @MARUTI96 11 месяцев назад

      Bro your video helps me to study so many things.

  • @virinom
    @virinom 3 года назад +62

    I'm electronics engineering student and the things I learnt from this video is priceless. These are the things you can not learn in university (mostly). Thank you.

    • @brokenicry
      @brokenicry 3 года назад +15

      most PCB Design stuff, you do not learn at university

    • @RobertFeranec
      @RobertFeranec  3 года назад +5

      Thank you very much Suleyman

    • @therealb888
      @therealb888 2 года назад +4

      @@RobertFeranec True, our university doesn't teach PCB design. Can you make a video why most universities around the world don't teach PCB design?

    • @roymoran1151
      @roymoran1151 Год назад

      This is the new university. RUclips university.

    • @alphaprot2518
      @alphaprot2518 Год назад

      My advice - get a internship/student job at one of your faculties. This helped me a lot to get in touch with "the real" world problems of engineering.

  • @AbdullahKahramanPhD
    @AbdullahKahramanPhD 3 года назад +52

    Robert, your questions were right from the industry’s heart, you were a great host, please keep making more content like this..

    • @RobertFeranec
      @RobertFeranec  3 года назад +1

      Thank you very much Abdullah. I am very happy you liked this video.

  • @TheCrazyStudent
    @TheCrazyStudent 3 года назад +1

    Thank you, both of you. I learn a lot from these recorded calls. I hope to see more of them on this channel.

  • @brokenicry
    @brokenicry 3 года назад +24

    Two of 3 people I owe my job in the defense industry to... Thank you Gentlemen

  • @cadecashen
    @cadecashen 2 года назад

    Thank you for this. Please do more!!!

  • @zapatazapata6414
    @zapatazapata6414 3 года назад

    Such brilliant minds, Thank you Robert!

  • @linqiang5734
    @linqiang5734 2 года назад

    Excellent Video, I really enjoy to watch it, many thanks Rob and Rick !

  • @pnjunction5689
    @pnjunction5689 3 года назад

    Finally found the time to watch this. This is fantastic information. Again, thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos!

  • @LukasSidlauskas
    @LukasSidlauskas 3 года назад

    Love that you keep addressing the topics I talked about some time ago. Thank you Rob!

  • @TheRealMonnie
    @TheRealMonnie 2 года назад

    I really do like these types of videos!
    Thanks for posting!

  • @yushengteng6476
    @yushengteng6476 2 года назад

    Awesome, this is classic !
    Thank you Robert.

  • @ashishchhonkar8865
    @ashishchhonkar8865 3 года назад

    that's video is soo amazing. please continuous it

  • @zorantrajkoski3045
    @zorantrajkoski3045 2 года назад

    Thank you Robert, I enjoy watching your videos. Great stuff.

  • @charlesmarseille123
    @charlesmarseille123 3 года назад

    So this clears a question pretty much once and for all. Thanks so much guys!

  • @saeidyazdani
    @saeidyazdani 3 года назад

    You are the best with the guests you bring in the show!

  • @kristianjasonbrodersen7243
    @kristianjasonbrodersen7243 2 года назад

    Great Video, thanks for sharing! I'd love to see more of this kind!

  • @RobertoAlcantara
    @RobertoAlcantara 3 года назад

    One of the best videos about this topic . Well done Robert!

  • @jasmenelee
    @jasmenelee 3 года назад +1

    Fantastic Robert..plz continue these marvelous series in future.

  • @erikmjelde4428
    @erikmjelde4428 Год назад

    I love this video. I've now watched it multiple times! I want it engrained in my head!

  • @Usturam
    @Usturam 3 года назад +35

    I hope you to be very rich Robert. But these lessons you share with us are more important than money. Thanks for everything.

  • @romancharak3675
    @romancharak3675 2 года назад

    Super fascinating Video ! Thank you Rick Hartley and Robert Feranec.

  • @mohammad.htarokh2891
    @mohammad.htarokh2891 2 года назад

    These recorded calls are excellent to learn!

  • @Svistofication
    @Svistofication 2 года назад

    Best video I have seen in a while. With a great speaker!

  • @RicardoPenders
    @RicardoPenders 2 года назад

    Yes, I like this kind of video and these videos are absolutely helpful so please keep making great videos like this one.
    Man, you don't know how valuable it is that this information is saved into public space and made available to everyone like you do and I can't thank you enough for doing this work for the greater good so to say, I wouldn't be able to learn this kind of stuff that is this specific and detailed and very easy to learn and understand so again thanks for making this available here on RUclips. You're the best 👍❤️

  • @prashanthb6521
    @prashanthb6521 11 месяцев назад

    These discussions are very interesting.

  • @BeMuslimOnly
    @BeMuslimOnly Год назад

    Video was amazing. Please do more of these

  • @vornamenachnahme58
    @vornamenachnahme58 2 года назад

    I like this kind of discussion very much!

  • @darrenschultz3572
    @darrenschultz3572 9 месяцев назад

    Very informative, more videos like this please.

  • @ssonerboztas
    @ssonerboztas 3 года назад

    THAT' S VERY VERY GOOD.
    THIS IS SPECTACULAR !
    THIS IS GREAT !
    Please Continue these videos

  • @danielmuller2028
    @danielmuller2028 Год назад

    robert, thank you a lot for your videos, they are all great and very helpfull !! please keep it up!! best greatings from austria!!

  • @zhengwei4164
    @zhengwei4164 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for sharing such a great video conversion. It benefits me a lot.

  • @giannisasp1208
    @giannisasp1208 3 года назад +1

    Extremely interesting video Robert!
    There are no words to describe Rick Hartley... He is just amazing!!!

  • @bukitoo8302
    @bukitoo8302 3 года назад +2

    This kind of videos are great! I remember back in 2008 when we have a consultant that taught us a lot desmitifying these kind of subjects.

  • @RiyadhElalami
    @RiyadhElalami 3 года назад

    Yes please more of this. So much to learn....

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 3 года назад +1

    Yeah, loved this format !....more please !...cheers.

  • @51kOm
    @51kOm 3 года назад +1

    Very interesting, useful and relevant information for me. For a long time, I recommend your channel to all my friends and colleagues. Thank you very much.

  • @mehrdadzandi334
    @mehrdadzandi334 3 года назад

    Thanks a lot for providing this video with full of information for designers as me facing such issues always

  • @user-yk3jf9vh2y
    @user-yk3jf9vh2y 2 года назад

    thanks rob, you did great job, this is helpful.

  • @rogerburdi3767
    @rogerburdi3767 2 года назад

    Great video. It confirmed some of my paradigms on EMC, broke a couple of my paradigms and I learned a few things as well! Great guest too!

  • @aryanbadvi4362
    @aryanbadvi4362 2 года назад

    Thank you and rick for this perfect video. your practical questions was very useful. please share more videos like this.

  • @Ghost572
    @Ghost572 Год назад

    This video was amazing, the channel is a gold mine for understanding advanced electronics.

  • @Tomciosz94
    @Tomciosz94 2 года назад

    Robert, this video is a great portion of knowledge and is served in thw best way that I ever dreamt. I hope, that such videos will be uploaded periodically on Your chanel.
    So, I have to see rest of your videos.

  • @marcin147258
    @marcin147258 3 года назад

    yes, I would like to see more videos like this!

  • @andreneves3597
    @andreneves3597 3 года назад

    That's a great video. I should saw this video a few years ago. I had some problems that I think this video could solve them.
    Thank you Robert

  • @LuigiLombardi
    @LuigiLombardi Год назад

    I learnt a lot of thing about this topic as an electronics engineering ! Thank you Robert and thank you Rick.

  • @Slartibartfas042
    @Slartibartfas042 2 года назад

    Great Video - it raised quite some "hmm, I think I'll might have to think of that again!" because there were quite some aspects I did not have on my radar. THANK YOU to both, to Rick Hartley and you, Robert, for raising such highly important (and I think interesting!) aspects that I feel are widely ignored or are prown to common problems. THX a lot, love videos like that.

  • @frankgoenninger6958
    @frankgoenninger6958 3 года назад

    Robert, the format these YT posts of you is superb - so please keep doing this. I also highly value you adding additional info. It also helped a lot for me to have Rick's excellent slides for visualizing the issues.

  • @PriyankaMajumdarOfficial
    @PriyankaMajumdarOfficial 2 года назад

    Wonderful Interview!
    Lots of problems are solved for me!

  • @husseinahmed4842
    @husseinahmed4842 3 года назад +2

    Thanks to both of you, For sharing your knowledge and experience.

  • @sergeyafanasev7505
    @sergeyafanasev7505 3 года назад

    Dear Robert!
    It's good format and amazing topic, thanks to you and Mr. Rick!
    One of my first serious boards was single phase power meter with ground common live wire, shunt in live and current transformer in neutral, capacitor divider plus dc/dc in power supply, high bit ADC.... It took me 6 iterations of the board to pass 1.2/50 us 6kV tests. After all, it was amazing practice, that costed me few gray hairs.

  • @georgechatzidakis3111
    @georgechatzidakis3111 3 года назад +1

    Perfect video Robert! Rick is a guru on EMI. Keep up the great job! Thanks!

  • @oregondude825
    @oregondude825 2 года назад +14

    More like this? YES! These are very interesting and informative. Grounding, EMI and these sorts of issues will never go away. Every new design opens all new opportunities for these issues. Hearing this stuff repeated and taught should help everyone. Thanks Robert and Rick - great stuff.

  • @genabuksuet
    @genabuksuet 7 месяцев назад

    This was the mother of all ground lessons! Amazing value delivered! Keep it up!

  • @Sajadsaberi-re5ll
    @Sajadsaberi-re5ll 27 дней назад

    These kinds of videos you are creating are pure gold, thank you Robert.

  • @llcheng5557
    @llcheng5557 2 года назад

    This is really great and is very useful. Please make more content like this.

  • @khaledshaheen9053
    @khaledshaheen9053 3 года назад

    Great discussion. Thank you Robert and R.hartley

  • @trinhkieu1469
    @trinhkieu1469 2 года назад

    Amazing, thank you for your sharing, I love this video

  • @LoMaLaLa
    @LoMaLaLa 3 года назад +1

    Yes, please. Do a lot of this kind of video. Thanks you

  • @tunahandinc2890
    @tunahandinc2890 3 года назад

    i remember you robert before remembering what is impedance, and now you are working on understanding this . Thanks to this effort you re having good guests like Hartley and we all learn new things together.

  • @vijayramachandran2943
    @vijayramachandran2943 2 года назад

    Please do more videos like this. Its interesting and for knowledge too...

  • @RiyadhElalami
    @RiyadhElalami 3 года назад

    Thank you and thanks to Rick so much amazing information. Lovely

  • @armenian34
    @armenian34 3 года назад

    Perfect topic, thanks

  • @0ldenn
    @0ldenn 3 года назад +1

    Great video ! Your question are always on point, and Rick's explanations are put in a way that makes them so easy to understand, almost "obvious". Thank you so much !

  • @EDGARDOUX1701
    @EDGARDOUX1701 3 года назад +3

    This is mind blowing Rob! Hope to see more of this kind. Thank you for sharing.

    • @RobertFeranec
      @RobertFeranec  3 года назад +1

      Thank you very much Edgar for watching

  • @bogdan1543
    @bogdan1543 3 года назад +1

    Great video!
    Would be nice to have similar conversation with more details about the shielding of analog front ends, like input's of 24bits ADCs and things like that in metallic, and, especially, plastic enclosures! ESD protection of such front ends also is very interesting. At least I didn't find any definitive statements on that but always some general things and even contradictory sometimes.
    Waiting for the next videos!

  • @user-ur2sn9cc1x
    @user-ur2sn9cc1x 3 года назад

    Great video! Thank you both!
    It is very bad that I didn’t saw it on November when I have worked in my diy new pcb design and thought how to split analog ground for ADC and power ground for PWM...

  • @bartek153
    @bartek153 3 года назад

    Robert, this is an excellent vid! cheers for that

  • @sparqqling
    @sparqqling 3 года назад

    This is pure gold! Must watch for anyone in EE! This will save you ours in the EMC lab and thousands of dollars.

  • @patteb
    @patteb 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely GREAT Video! I really dig the "conversation between two experts"-format. Rich dropped knowledge left and right while you kept asking great questions.
    Many instructional videos on here kinda feel like drawn-out lectures. THIS did not feel like an hour at all. i really enjoyed myself and I am now a better engineer than an hour ago. Thank you!

  • @MichaelLenz1
    @MichaelLenz1 3 месяца назад

    Very helpful and valuable information! Exactly what I’m doing right now is the emi and proper grounding.

  • @amirnaghipour4744
    @amirnaghipour4744 3 года назад

    خیلی خیلی ممنون بابت این اطلاعات مفید
    Thank you very much for this useful information
    and I follow you from Iran

  • @jonathanfournier4688
    @jonathanfournier4688 3 года назад +1

    This is great content Robert! Straight to the point technical discussion loaded with tips and info! Maybe a follow up video on this topic including line terminations for the common things like UART, SPI, I2C, there's so many different school of thoughts on different filter usage, it's very confusing unless you experiment with all of them :) Like if I'm using a digital isolator, does it also include the behaviour of a regular buffer line driver with respect to impedance, emc, emi etc. Cheers!

  • @manojkumarsubramaniam7122
    @manojkumarsubramaniam7122 3 года назад +2

    i absolutely like these kind of video, I highly like this and the one with Eric.Thanks both

  • @galmagen6212
    @galmagen6212 Год назад

    that was a grate video on shielding and grounding, keep this type of videos going!

  • @jakobhalskov
    @jakobhalskov 2 года назад

    I really like this format and love Rick's no bullshit attitude ! :)

  • @DanielPhoxynus
    @DanielPhoxynus 3 года назад +1

    Loved the video, already learned so much. Also remembered mistakes I made in the past! Thank you Robert.

  • @Hadi-zw9mb
    @Hadi-zw9mb 2 года назад

    Hey Robert. I found your channel 2 days ago. I am an RF engineer and try to design some high-speed PCBs, your channel is great. Thank you, you help me a lot.

  • @MichelleGianni
    @MichelleGianni Год назад

    This video is gold for emi and power supply design.

  • @douglasacramer76
    @douglasacramer76 3 года назад

    I do enjoy your discussions with experts who share the experiences in solving different problems

  • @Electromechaniac
    @Electromechaniac 5 месяцев назад

    Robert and Rick together - that's awesome!

  • @sigfreed11
    @sigfreed11 2 года назад

    These are usually the only types of videos I watch

  • @mfierst7326
    @mfierst7326 3 года назад +7

    Do I like the kind of video's where you discuss topics with different people?
    Yes!

  • @philipphaydvogel511
    @philipphaydvogel511 2 года назад

    Absolutely great!

  • @adarshcp613
    @adarshcp613 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video Robert. It's amazing how Rick answer perfectly to every questions. Thanks for making this a reality Robert.

  • @mdchethan
    @mdchethan 3 года назад

    Great info Robert, it was very technical, it demystified a lot of difficult concepts, and Rick is just precise and very clear with his comments. Switching power supplies layout from EMI point of view and Shielding of cable were really explained well. Please continue this kind of videos, it was one of the best videos.

  • @TimVT971
    @TimVT971 2 года назад

    Thank you Robert. I am in the process of designing a PCB and decided to watch this video, oh boy do I have a lot to think about. So many of the concepts that I have picked up over the years have been challenged. Having designed RF circuits in the past, I was fooled into thinking that I knew how to design for EMI. The RF designs I made were for hand held battery based products. Now that I am doing switch mode power supply design, I have realized I have a lot to learn - Thanks again

  • @alyssamaefauni6230
    @alyssamaefauni6230 3 года назад

    I like to watch your videos, they are informative and useful specially on my job. Thank you very much !

  • @Sahsimunasir
    @Sahsimunasir 3 года назад

    That was awesome! Thanks for these topics

  • @superalpha
    @superalpha Год назад

    I remember meting Rick at FTF 2010 when he was at L3. Great guy

  • @wahidshirdel1119
    @wahidshirdel1119 Год назад

    Thanks. great as always

  • @jlysiak
    @jlysiak 3 года назад +2

    The best lesson ever got. That's amazing who much I could learn from this. Thank you!

  • @SakibAhmedSkB
    @SakibAhmedSkB 3 года назад

    Mr. Hartley's video on the Altium page changed my whole perspective for wattage flow in a PCB. Thank you, Mr. Feranec for these kinds of videos. Really informative.

  • @partouelectric2353
    @partouelectric2353 3 года назад

    Thank you very much for the great presentation. This is a must for all hardware engineers

  • @RetroSix
    @RetroSix 2 года назад

    Always learn new stuff you your talks. Knowledge money can't buy, only the years of experience you guys have 😍

  • @codedesigns9284
    @codedesigns9284 Год назад

    Excellent video! Very informative!

  • @mateuszrosner8258
    @mateuszrosner8258 3 года назад +4

    Great idea with this kind of videos, it allows us to meet many specialists and see diferent points of views :) looking forward another lesson!

  • @CesarABB1
    @CesarABB1 3 года назад +1

    Thank you very much for these kind of videos, they are really useful, this is the best channel for PCB designers

    • @RobertFeranec
      @RobertFeranec  3 года назад

      Thank you very much Cesar for nice words.

  • @fabiopolvo039
    @fabiopolvo039 3 года назад

    Robert , Thank you! you are saving my Life! Keep Going! Excelent Content!