The Struggle of a Solo Player In Destiny 2 | Fixing Destiny's Biggest Problem
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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Solo players in destiny have it very rough, most of the activities in destiny require at least 3 people and for a solo this is a big problem. In this video I cover some of the struggles and a solution for all solo players out there. I hope you guys enjoy and thankyou for watching!
Thank you for making this video. LFG is one of thise things that took me forever to learn on my own. It is one of the most powerful tools available in Destiny and people are just handicapping themselves by not using it.
It's understandable to have social anxiety, but at some point you do have to take a step forward and reach out. Remeber that failure is perfectly normal and expectations of perfection first time arent reasonable. The only reason I joined a clan was because I reached out on LFG to get someone to help me with a NF which led to them becoming a friend and then inviting me to their clan. It took me 17 attempts to finish the NF, but had I given up and stopped reaching out I would have never joined my clan and been invited to do day 1 raids.
Your welcome
I comment this every time I see someone say they have no friends for raids so never do them.
That's not the problem though. The problem is that even when people with social anxiety do step forward and reach out, they're met by a brick wall of clan cliques who avoid hundreds of other clan members specifically to group with a select few. Every clan I've ever joined has had these, because there's no incentive from Bungie for them to do anything else. Well, here's my incentive: the more you raid or group with the same people, the more diminishing returns you get on loot and progress of triumphs, rankings, seasonal progress etc. But the more "strangers" (other people from your clan) that you group with, you'll actually garner a net increase in loot and progress. This should happen slowly over time, so that it doesn't STRICTLY affect you playing with friends, but clans and players should see a point in their progress where they see a noticeable dip and are required to play with new people in order to fix it. This should both affect individual players and entire clans directly. If you have a clan of nothing but cliques, the game should SPECIFICALLY require a scheduled rotation of player swapping so everyone gets to play together, and everyone gets a chance at loot. And if you don't do that, then collectively, as a clan, your chance at loot begins to decrease over time. This should reset on a regular basis so that friends can play with one another for a while without worry.
I'm a solo destiny artist who uses the app to find people.
@@AlphaMachinaThat would be an excellent idea
Yeah, as 42 year old hermit I don't think I'll ever get to do raids.
And that's okay if you are okay with that, but if you really wanted to I bet you could
Same here...raids are out of the question for me. But at least i do enjoy trying out some dungeons, although i can go so far doing it solo. Im 42 years old, and my brother is 43. We usually just do story missions, and nightfalls. We only managed to finish 2 of the easiest dungeons, prophecy and shattered throne. Although i think we can finish pit of heresy and or grasp of avarice.
Don't say that if you really want to do raids.
I'm not a solo player per se, as I have some friends with limited availability, also my availability is limited. I'm 38 years old with a wife, a job, chores and other hobbies. But I do love the game and invest a lot of time into it.
So I'm finding myself in LFG groups on a regular basis. To narrow it down even further, I'm german and atm only doing LFGs in german and only using the D2 app to find fireteams. 95% of the times I find a group within minutes.
I did this to finish my red borders. Now that I'm done I hop into random groups trying to help. I'm no @colonelrakesh or @zervoxe but I'm trying.
Also, I'm one of the "youngsters" of my clan and have carried most of them through most of the raids.
There are good people out there! Keep searching and you will find them!
I put some "Old-agers 30+ (insert Raid)" posts up on the app and those fill up pretty quickly and tend to be great experiences!
50 year old hermit here and I don't do raids either, but I've done Grasp of Avarice solo (to get Gjallarhorn and the catalyst). Wasn't flawless by any stretch of the imagination, but I got what I went in for. If I can do it, I'm sure you can too.
Bro just look up lfgs 🤦🏻♂️
As a solo player, it drives me crazy that there is no Matchmaking or some lobby in-game for the harder content. It is nice though that there are some external resources though.
Absolutely - why matchmaking only for some of the activities?
I think in game lfg is coming next season
This^ , I’m sure destiny 1 had matchmaking for the harder nightfall and now it’s only for the regular
So Bungie, how bout that "Guided Game [Beta]" you've had in the Director for literally years now?
@@baadtaste1337 Because late game content requires a lot of coordination and it would be hard to do so with 6 randoms that aren't using a mic or putting any effort trying to synch with the rest of the fireteam. I also find it annoying, but reality is, going into Raids or Dungeons with randoms would be a complete waste of time 9/10 times. If you don't have a few very experienced players doing the work, you're not going to complete it.
I'm a veteran player, I don't raid or do nightfalls, so I miss out on heaps of stuff. But I find that Bungie always caters to the high end player's, doing raids, strikes, nightfalls, grand masters, dungeons, and always forgets about solo players not all of us has friends to play with and most of us have working lives or families or the time to be doing raids that's if you can find a team to teach you or let you join so you can learn, god forbid we don't know what to do. The game is great some times but can have bad times too I keep playing hoping that things will get better soon for everyone
Guess we keep playing and waiting
I think thats the funniest thing ive read today "bungie caters to high end players" lmao destiny is the most casual game out there nothing in it is "high end content" aside from MAYBE day1 raids and thats not even in the game anymore its 2 days now, theres no challenge in destiny for "high end players" they only cater to the casual fan base and they themself have said this
@@OddOxi All high end activities reward pinnacles. But without going for raid pinnacles and doing paid content, your options for pinnacles to hit power cap will be limited.
This is the big reason why Destiny 2 loses a lot of new players because new players have very little options to power cap themselves to so they can actually do the harder content that reward materials that help with progression. And those F2P players will eventually leave as they feel hard capped which means no purchasing of D2 content.
For example legend nightfalls start at 1810, soft cap is at 1750 and you need those prisms for any form of useful modding. Power grind has to be tapered off.
@@csnationThis right here!
As a Solo player (Who had been playing since the D1 Beta) that does Raids and Dungeons whenever LFGs do not immediately kick me out for being a 1 timer, the struggle is real.
Very tru
This is a truth and a mood. I will just play what I can.
Dungeons are my favorite activity for solo play. It is possible to do it. But getting into doing that shit can be hard
You know what would be more simpler... Just make everything matchmaking. It can't be that hard. If you want to exclude raids cool but everything else should be
like he said, it's 2024. no reason not to have match making for EVERYTHING. no one has time to waste looking for fireteams for hours. destiny is stuck in stone age, missing way too many QOL things that should of been there from start.
@Asmodeius as a solo player who raids often, they definitely should be exluded. One or two wrong people and the raid can go for hours more than needed and it keeps the trolls out. I've also gotten use to being able to LFG on discord.
@@ImpressiiveGames your concern is valid. for me problem is that i work a lot and have family, i play about 20 hours a week. i dont have time to look for fire team for hours that's willing to take me and teach me. there has to be an easier, version with match making for people like myself and noobs to jump in and play/learn
@@ImpressiiveGamesthats good for you but it's still better to have matchmaking, if you don't want to use it then don't
@eftultima in your wrong and loud opinion.
Been playing Destiny as a solo player since D1 Beta. Never completed a raid or a dungeon. Joined a group as an outsider a few times over the years and they were all miserable experiences. I'm closing in on 60 and play games to relax and get AWAY from the drama of life...not to add to it. That said, while I gave up on groups through anything other than matchmaking long ago, watching your video makes me think that perhaps things have changed in the interim and I should give it another shot. If even a fraction of the people there are as helpful as you it will be worth it.
Me too!
@@stevehunt914 Same here. Wait, did we just inadvertently create a solo player fireteam? 😂
Lfg never changed still is a PoS for solo players. Same people as always.
Like you I would like to join non toxic lfg...sometimes I'm lucky...but I tend to get shy and anxious when I make mistakes. I would like to just chill and play and learn/ explore how things are done with patience. It'll be great to be able to keep going on a raid and get better at it. Maybe help others too if I do get a chance to get to know a raid well. I understand it may take several runs/tries to KWTD. I'm on pst time, and play mostly at night.
I've been in soom really toxic raid teams too, usually full of young people with no patience, I've been in a few brilliant ones tho too, very friendly and helpful but they were always more mature players.
Been playing Destiny 1/2 for nearly ten years solo. Im 56yrs old, got a 2.21kda in crucible, love the game, trouble is i have a problem with understanding mechanics when too much is going on at once. Been kicked loads of times from raids etc. Solo for me is a safer no stress environment. Missing out on loads though.
Yep unfortunately with games like destiny it comes with a more toxic side of the community and if its not done asap or the way they want it, the boots will come through
I must agree..im 42 years old, my reflexes is just not as good as the young ones. And i just can be bothered spending 5 to six hours doing raids. But, those raids weapons sure are interesting.
Well.. you’re obviously not joining teaching posts
“I have a problem with understanding mechanics when too much is going on at once” This is exactly why when I teach raids to people, I teach it in byte form so it’s easy to digest.
Kings Fall for example, on the second encounter ‘totems’ instead of telling them the ins and outs, step by step, first I’ll tell them that “we’ll split into 2 two teams, and we’ll be playing “hot potato” in those groups. That’s literally it.”
This way they have a pretty solid foundation to go off of when understanding what’s about to happen, because if they have something to go to for reference, it clicks in their brain like little puzzle pieces.
Edit: I was able to teach an entire raid group how to do kings fall, and get the catalyst for the weapon from that raid, which required you to do all these mini games between each encounter. One guy said “I have no clue I’m sorry” and I said “it’s totally fine, I did say in the post that I can teach if needed so you don’t have to worry.”
@@Lynxee3004 doing the lords work my friend. When I teach I literally explain it as though I’m teaching children. I’ll reference the peanut butter sandwich exercise, most people can’t tell you exactly step by step on how to complete a basic task. They usually leave out VERY key transition steps that boosts comprehension
As a fellow solo player i agree that although more difficult, if you are patient you can find those good lfg raid groups and get the raid drops you really want. Wish there were an easier way than lfging though.
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From day one Destiny 1 till now I always struggled finding ppl to play with. Ive been in 6 clans so far and i ended up as the only player being online and play alone. I completed only 5 raids in the entire 10 years. I used Fireteam search to find ppl but 9/10 times i got kicked out of the team for not having a Raid or an end game weapon. I am a very good player and often times carry an entire group, but it feels unfair if ppl wont give me even a chance
I am willing to play with you I have a small clan of 4 and I am the only one that is ever on.
@@vespa2645hey I'd love to hit up! My entire clan has dropped off of destiny
I'll be more then happy to team up! ❤ let's have some Destiny fun yes!
If you dont have clears and end game weapons your not good lol thats the whole point
@@Wellsy-qr8pb tell that everyone I carry through all the activities
Ive had quite a few really bad experieces with "friendly lfg" groups, and with my anxiety i just dont want to keep trying at this point. I can find some enjoyment playing solo still
As unfortunate as it is, that happens a lot. I've had too many myself honestly, but I've also have some completely amazing ones where I was sore because I couldn't stop from laughing so hard. If you would like someone to do things with, no pressure, drama, or anything but fun times, and jokes galore, I'm always around in game. I don't mind helping anyone with anything at all, and I can usually find some good people to group with. If you're interested let me know, and I'll run with you.
This is it. I agree. I’ve LFG many many times and more of them are bad than good experiences so to me it isn’t worth it.
Don't do bungies lfg, to much kwtd, have this, have that or kicked, or the posts are already taken.
Don't get me wrong I want to do them, but trying to find decent people is like getting blood out of a stone,
Join and chat with people. There is way too much KWTD, however as long as you have some prior knowledge, such as having watched a YT video, most people will be generous and forgive mistakes when you own up to it or ask for clarification before an encounter
KWTD groups tend to be worse than ones without that requirement from my experience
@@dantedshaw1996 yes, its more of a complaint with how poorly Bungie manages their LFG program and the rampant KWTD cutlture while people themselves dont know how to play.
@@dantedshaw1996 Yeah cuz they don't kwtd and they need random guy carried them, kwtd is not that bad but "kwtd or kick" is super bad. i joined a lfg post yesterday and met someone don't kwtd (0 clear kf) blame 5 others don't kwtd (1 guy in that 5 have 170 clears), he hop in random plate and we don't know why we fail until we stand and watch him, it will be better if he ask us how to do it :))
Agree with you both 💯, I'm def not top tier but try my best. If honest, I don't like being the one to screw up a run constantly, don't mind other people doing it, just not me 🤣
That group was how I found people to do my first GM with after all of my friends abandoned Destiny. I've been wanting to do a raid but my anxiety just fires up when I look at it.
That’s understandable, try to chill you got this!
If you have watched a video and understand how to do the raid Id suggest making your own post. People are very understanding when doing a raid for the first time, and though it is very scary being in a large group it is very worth it making friends. Also joining a clan is one of the best ways to make a friend group in Destiny.
@@MrBe56I'm actually in a clan, but they all abandoned destiny as soon as Diablo 4 came out lol. The only people who regularly get on now are PVP.
@N0strapapas Thats tough when your friend group leaves destiny. While you cant join multiple clans in Destiny. A lot of them do make discord servers of which you have no limitation on.
100% me too.
Something that needs to be highlighted about "joining random groups" is many people are not comfortable with that. Im a cripplingly anxious person and it takes a very long time for me to acclimate to new people and there are simply no opportunities to meet people and chill before getting into some of the end game activities as the vast majority of players seem to only want to play with "good" players and have 0 patience to teach. Not saying they don't exist but the the odds are so unreasonably stacked against you. And communication is a whole other shit show with almost every person i have ever played with in any activity doesn't respond to chat
No get a mic and communicate it’s not hard
I would help other I just taught a friend how to play and he is the only person other than my husbando that will play Destiny with me. I am willing to teach people how to play.
@@JasonPTACommunication with idiots is hard??? which are most supposed players in D2 lfg, impatient, obnoxious but mostly stuck up(Treat the game like a job and expect u to be perfect even if u say u are a beginner and or have a hard time grasping concepts regar. And its rather rare to find some genuine nice people, where a person might get the hang of things while also. GUESS WHAT??? having fun at the GAME.
@@zoto4064 nope I teach people all the time. It’s not hard to say I don’t understand
That’s life
That's kind of the Internet in general these days. People who say "lOl jUsT mAeK fRiENDz" have obviously never been bullied over body traits (which includes the sound of your voice), disability/mental illness, gender, sexual orientation, etc. It happens both online and off more than you'd think. Hell, a lot of times people get bullied just because of saying/doing the wrong thing at the wrong time - that alone is, like, 60 percent of the memes on the Internet. Everybody does it, but up until a couple decades ago, you couldn't have your life ruined by the Internet because of it like today. Also, I think Destiny just has a very addictive core gameplay loop (mainly because of things like gunplay, graphics, the class system, etc) and that's why it draws a lot of players of all types, social and anti-social. But the problem of people preferring to play alone is not just a Destiny problem or even just an MMO problem, it's a society problem. There are lots of broken, scared people playing video games online, and contrary to popular belief, they have a damn good reason to be weary of people.
Not strictly a solo player in D2, but was for almost the entirety of D1, it can feel like a strugfle for sure.
So now, I do a lot of raid and dungeon sherpas, nightfall help, etc to help out people who may not have friends or be too experienced in activites so they get to experience all the game has to offer.
Its great to hear people enjoying doing these activities for the first time. Its what being a part of this community is all about if you ask me
They should make in game raid/dungeon hubs - like pre stage areas you can wait around in (with different vendors maybe) and socialize to join up with a fire team. LFGs sound great but to me this seems like a less anxiety inducing way to interact in-game and find friends.
i think if bungie added a mission for each raid that had legend modifiers and made you do several simplified versions of raid encounters for a pinnacle raid item and maybe a different weekly challenge for a piece of armor for solo players. I think that would be fair for solo players as they still have to do everything by themselves and deal with legend modifiers like burns and lowered light level
as a solo player myself i don´t understand why bungie just refuses to add a solo mode for dungeons. i would love to play them, learn everything, but man some encounters i just can´t do solo.
Having that modifier for solo Dungeons and Raids would be great! Can also help with learning the mechanics for the raid/dungeon to a base level so when it comes to running in a group, you've got some experience. Just...with health being lowered a bit and not sitting at around 14 million.
No, find people to play with
@@JasonPTA you’ll die alone one day 😄
@@JasonPTA No, i won't because community in destiny lfgs are mostly sht and i don't like hanging around sht. So yes give me a mode that lets me choose wether a player wants to solo it or in a team. Like wtf is your dumbass response. it's like saying "No, i dont want you to have a choice or another opinion. It's forbidden so struggle as i do. Don't let bungie learn and implement something i wanted ages ago" or whatever reason you'd have.
I'm a solo player. I'm perfectly fine not doing raids. I just can't stand puzzles man. I just want enemies to spawn and kill. I don't want to do tasks that require me to communicate with another Guardian all that much but that's just me.
Same, I just to point and shoot
Totally hate jumping puzzles,find them pointless and time wasting
I would rather have 1000 enemies spawn than 1 puzzle
Solo players get kicked from Raids.
I quite like being a solo player, I have a few friends but I would say 75% of the time I'm solo. No scheduling issues, play when i want do what i want. I play all the time. Raiding dosnt seem worth the hassle to me so no issues there. I have done dungeons. Strikes Crucible and gambit you dont need any friends. LFG is very hit and miss, some are very open and helpful but most are assholes.
The issue I find is LFG as the answer is bad. LFG is a terrible experience full of toxic trash people like the Destiny community is known for.
Appreciate the focus on solos. We fall through the cracks. We have accomplished a good deal. It’s not like we’re terrible. Terrible is just how bungie and the community treats us. I personally love avoiding the heavy toxicity in gamers over the last 10 years but I really hate being asked if I have anarchy, vex mythoclast, etc and if I don’t, I get kicked. Probably judged right before. “Get gud” has become a phrase that boils my blood. Bungie really needs to take care of this community. We have invested cash and time. We deserve it. Enough of trials and competitive for a bit, take care of gambit if not our community. The competitive community is the most rewarded yet the most toxic and ungrateful. They could survive a break. lol see you all in February 😏
skill issue ngl
Tbh as a solo veteran, the destiny app lfg is perfectly fine. I can easily do raids and craft raid weapons etc without any problem and solo legendary campaigns on DLC drops.
Yeah even the bungie website does work, i just prefer using the discord (probably cause im on pc)
Argh, seems miserable.
The biggest reason I quit after 1 year of frenetic playing, 2k hours in 1 year.
Wouldn't bother anymore.
Very tiresome, tried as much as I could making friends and joined multiple clans.
This game biggest weakness is the forced multiplayer experience, with exclusive loot "locked" behind it.
Having to "coordinate" anything and being dependent on other 5 players to achieve anything in a Raid.
Every activity should scale properly and being doable solo.
Like any decent, really decent well made - well thought out game is/would be.
Bungo is ultimately lazy and lame, so...why bother.
Ultimately you'll get the feeling that you're losing on a lot, lot of content and paying it just the same.
You're paying for activities that you cannot do..."unless this" or "unless that".
It's horrible.
Is it miserable? Or are you miserable? As a solo player, I can play when I want to play. I don't have to wait for friends to be free. I operate on my own time. It's bliss@@marcust478
@@marcust478💀
Raids and dungeons suck definitely solo idk how most stuff you need to meet people that's why everything should be match making at least optional
Took the words right out of my mouth
Ive been a solo player since i started playing destiny trried lfg done raids using lfg but it takes alot of time to find the right team
I am a solo player also, and the main reason i shy away from doing raids with random people is because of the weird stuff that are said during said raids. racist comments, sexist conversations, always one guy trying to sound like a female during sex and the list goes on. Everyone is different, i know, but most times people forget that what may be a joke to you, may most definitely not be a joke to someone else. Its ridiculous sometimes.
Its tough in some of those LFG groups. Keep trying though there are definitely good people out there, and if you are comfortable speak up for someone being rude. You have no obligation to stay in their group and there are infinitely more that will treat you better.
@@MrBe56 I never stay, i always just leave once the toxicity starts. I've found great groups in the past to do raids with the few times i've done raids, heck, i just got collective obligation 3 weeks ago after doing like my 6th or 7th clear of vow. group was chill and amazing.
@@ATM-GAMING-11 Congratulations!
Never happened to me. I personally believe d2 has one of the best lfg communities
@@Telesto_Timelost D2 LFG is incredibly hit or miss. Sometimes you get great teammates, other times you get 10yr old COD player lvs of toxicity. Im glad you have had good experiences thusfar.
I just want an ingame LFG system like so many other mmo/multiplayer games has.
No but actually for real! That be so useful
@@Elysse-HallowOfHope Yea I wish it was a thing
Thank you for highlighting this issue. I'm not a great player and so am not keen to join a random fireteam as they can be toxic if you aren't sure what you're doing. Every listing now is KWTD, it's very demoralising. I love the game but am missing out so much in the end game content. I'm also fed up being killed by raid and lighthouse weapons in crucible!
it's the same for me, I don't play enough to be good, but I don't play enough bc LFG's aren't very inviting to average or below players.
Must have Gjallahorn... 😂
🤣@@normedwards5305
As a solo player I just do legendary lost sectors, exotic weekly mission and a few nightfalls… once a week I play with a clan but we’ve only ever done two raids. Would be really cool if there was in game match making and tutorials so we can do dungeons and raids
They are adding in the in game lfg soon(I forget if it is next season or Final Shape). It's a feature in development.
12 min of info I've already tried.
I've stopped playing as much because I'm locked out of dungeons/raids. Most are KWTD within hours of an end game activity. Considering not getting Final Shape, not sure if it's worth wasting more hours watching videos not to get in a group, getting kicked for not actually having done the activity or hoping for sherpa availability.
yeah, i get this. i really enjoy this game but man, its significantly more exciting and entertaining with people you know and actively play with. the connection with others is destiny is so enticing. I remember back when forsaken released i was a junior in high school and found out some of my friends and their friends also actively played destiny. we ended up making a clan and doing raids usually every night. as people that would originally talk only occasionally in the same class, we got pretty close due to destiny. unfortunately right as beyond light was releasing, id say, about a week or two before, a couple of my friends in this group of ours had a pretty bad falling out. one person acted in a pretty, shitty, inconsiderate way that another individual took a lot of offense to, culminating in them refusing to play with each other. it was petty, but it also caused such a divide in our friend group that people slowly started to not play with any one of us altogether in avoidance of any toxicity. i still play this game daily, truly one of my favorite games of all time. I will say though, it sucks having to look for lfgs to do a raid now, only ever talking once a twice for comms with people youll never talk to again is always kind of weird, and awkward. i miss my clan, lmao. good video!
Huh, I had a situation similar to this not too long ago. A girlfriend of a buddy said something totally inexcusable and unforgivable to me, and because of that, that whole friend group I had shut me out. Obviously leaving out the context because it’s personal matters, but I will say that I was not in the wrong for not wanting to hear what she had to say to me. But hey, at least you still enjoy this game
@@that1ragingbat_603 wait YOU got shunned? wat?
I’m a solo player and when I try to join a fireteam in the D2 companion app, they always leave when we don’t beat it the first time. It took me a couple of hours just getting people. 😭
My problem with most MMO endgame content is that the rest of the gameplay rarely prepares you for modern raid mechanics. It's the developers' faults for making RPG bosses too easy to power creep and turn into trivial encounters, so they have to come up with something else. But after day-one raiders spend 18 hours straight figuring out what to do, the puzzle mechanics become trivial too, and then raids feel completely isolated from what the bulk of the gameplay actually is.
Regular missions are "avoid this attack while shooting these targets until they die" while raids are "one guy puts on a specific hat while three others block lasers with weird pineapples they found, and two more just kill adds forever". It's all brute-forcing trial & error until you figure out how not to die, so you can't just hop in as a casual player. Even with RUclips tutorials, I've found very few people who effectively convey and demonstrate raid & dungeon mechanics without bombarding you with easy-to-miss information.
Was really looking for a group since the rest of my friends quit after wrath in d1. Thank you for making this so much
Do you have an idea as to why they dont offer a matchmaking option for raids?. Ive been playing destiny also since 2014 and have never done a raid or dungeon.
It would be unplayable
Started the destiny journey at 50 something now I'm 60 something, all solo, every season, bar one. I usually don't use lfg, being a retired soldier(30 yrs) I don't have the patience for toxic friggen shit heads. I may not do endgame or PvP, but I play just about everyday, I'm the very example of insane.
I'm a 35 yr old introvert. I've been a solo player in Destiny for about 4 years now because all my friends have up on the game. I still haven't done the reprised kings fall. And the new dungeons and raid I've done them no more than 2-3x.
Great video on how to navigate the LFG discord ! Now its been explained i'll be joining it this evening.
yeah it can be a lil confusing with all the lingo people use but you'll get ontop of it pretty quick
Or you could just play a better single player game. Bungie gave up on this game :/
I dont know if destiny is as much of the problem as the community. More often then not I see too many toxic players on LFG. Too many kwtd tags. It’s not fun to play raid with people that are making fun of you the whole time while they are running around speed running the raid with their eager edge swords and you are trying to enjoy last wish for the first time.
Thank you for this video. It's tough and lonely as a solo player.
I started playing destiny in 2014 when I was 11 and had no idea LFG even existed until the age of triumph era in 2016, over the span of like a week I went from never touching a raid in destiny to running all of them every week and getting all the special ornaments, it was such a fun time to play the game.
Raids in d1 were dumb easy tho
@@ciguret and? Tf does that have to do with anything?
@@georgmi6871 watch yo mouth
I don't mind playing with others, the biggest gripe I have though is everybody I wind up linking up with wants to speed run through everything. I like to kill everything and leave nobody alive. Is that asking to much?
Unless speed is a factor, like with Nightfall's, then that's different.
The only fix for this problem is they make raids and dungune register, like when you try to inter TDM game in any fps games, and make in game sound,
Haven't tried a raid since D1. My lfg runs of Vault and Crota's end ended up w/ nothing but insults and 0 clears. I still consider myself VERY capable at the game though, def not casual, even with 0 raids. Hoping they don't do anything to RoN next season because I am ABSOLUTELY going to solo the entire raid (except maybe planets, that boss makes me nervous 😁) I think it'll be a cool flex to have my first raid be a solo one lol.
I just came back after the start of D2 but my wife is playing now. Vanguards are a mixed bag, we get min maxers who just run as fast as possible and dont let us learn whee to go or do bounties.
Yes it is a gatekept community, there's no way around it. I basically only played endgame pve with the friend that introduced me to this game for the longest time. Once he was gone all i could do is pve or farming cause i made some bad experiences with lfg. Yes you can watch a guide but in the end you will make mistakes on your first run, alot of them at that. I'm glad i have a few endgame activities down by now but to get going on a new raid is just frustrating for new players
I've been a solo player since D1. I'm socially retarded but I love games like Destiny and The Division. Never done a raid or nightfall in D2. I just binge everything I can solo then pretend the endgame doesn't exist and stop playing for a long time. I hadn't played since shadowkeep. Got all the new content and binged 300 hours in the last month. Only game I've played all month. Reaching a point where I can't continue again now though. Legend campaign missions with 100k score is just about out of my reach. I really wish they didn't make you speedrun to get score.
If I may, I’d like to give my opinion on the internet 😂 genuinely ❤ i try avoiding commenting unless it’s only positive. Which is why I want to say I feel telling people who are new to anything to watch a video so they know what to do is very.. I mean I’m not an A.I 😂 it doesn’t stick like that. Not to mention for an example Outer Wilds would suck if you look up any gameplay or anything. The whole point and what makes the Experience fun is finding things out. Like the day one Raiders, Are they LoOking up a video or being sent one by bungie? Sorry for the passive aggressive condescension 😂 like I said I try avoiding giving my opinion so try not to take my personal experiences and opinions to heart or anything. And anything else I happened to disagree with, I felt was totally opinionated and wouldn’t bother commenting. But for some reason that one line had me ready to Butt heads 😂 still much appreciation to people out here willing to put out videos. Takes a little bit of courage that I don’t have. And commendable patience for people who’ll read any of these long winded comments, genuine appreciation ❤
I knew about the Destiny 2 LFG, but it was frankly a little intimidating. I appreciate the breakdown and confidence boost!
Just to chime in with my experience with LFG as a solo player. I've done hundreds across Xbox Live, Bungie app, and the Destiny 2 Discord. There have only been a handful of times where the experience wasnt good. Less than 1%. Be up front about your issues/weaknesses and most people will help you out. Cant help you if we dont know you need help.
And dont be afraid to create your own group instead of joining one. You can control the vibe with the boot option if someone is starting to get toxic. I always put "chill" in my posts to get players that dont really care about how others play as long the acivity gets completed ina reasonable time frame. Theyll often stick around for one or 2 re tries.
Nope not for me I wanted to throw my controller at the tv from all the yelling and screaming form 7 year olds 🤣
The thing that destroyed Destiny was making clans such a big thing. It fractured my groups so many went on to clan up with other people they played with more, then we all played mostly with our clans for the rewards. After a year and a half, they all stopped playing and I hadn’t played with all these other guy forever so there was no connection, many of them got off cause their clans stopped playing. It just ruined all the conn3criona I had outside the 20 people I claned up with. Then I switch3d clans, then those guys stopped playing, rinse and repeat over the years and now I hardly know anyone. It’s to the point I don’t desire going thru it again to get to know people.
Smartest thing they could do is make everything match made. Maybe less rewards and make it easier, not sure what the solution should be. Doing this might piss off the hardcore but oh well.
Im a solo player and i dont really like to talk to other players. I mostly play by myself or in activities with matching
Solo play is what Gaming's all about. FINISH the campaign earn your keep. and then Play online.
Problem with Today is every one buys the game and is "entitled" to get carried as fast as they can with their playthrough totally missing out on how fun the game is. It's more like a "CHORE" nowadays.
lol and they still have their homework and real chores to deal with. That's why LIFE SUCKS for those type of individuals who plague gaming today.
Laughing at those people with glee.
Hi been a destiny solo player since d1 wow that was arwsome in d1 playing some raid half threw I got kicket😢😢.so I kept on playing the game solo .then d2 came I was so overwhelmed how good the game was bort the expansions upto the final shape then I seen the price.still a solo player still getting kicket out of raids and Dougens.i class my self a good player been playing gaming when I was 10 years old. But now I've work out it's not for solo player at all I did the calculations and out 100 it's 99.9% for pvp and team players only that what bungie are punching for. Now I left the game for 3 months I didn't miss it at all I've got more time myself to end on that note no more grinding for a weapon what is going to be nurf in the future love your channel keep up the good work dude 👍👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯
ater 4,200 hours on this game, I just gave it up... I was solo, years ago was in a clan and the clan broke up abruptly... the wash-rinse-repeat was just too much for me... I was so frustrated when I was unable to complete the campaing a few seasons ago where you could not obtain the armor at the end of the campaign unless you ran through the most challenging campaign, which I couldn't do solo... through some cheese I was able to obtain some artifice armour and get through the campaign in hard mode.. but it was a huge wake-up call... so I just gave up.... the costs of the game never bother me, it's the lack of solo support for this game...
Mid 30's boomer here. I basically only play solo or duo with the wife and LF cut us off from even more content unfortunately. I wish I had a poll of what % of the player base thought some of the difficulty increase was necessary tbh. I think master and gm content should have gotten harder, but the increase from hero to legend nf is steep and that is about the cutoff for what I will willingly beat my head against. Master and up solo/duo feels bad imo and it doesn't help that neither of us play a well lock. The harder the game gets the less viable ways to play you have and I don't like that. I should add that I don't like a lot about gaming culture, but mostly the know it all attitudes and try hards that ruin the experience for us older people who haven't played the game from ages 10 to 20 or whatever lol. I have a lot of anxiety in general from some gnarly childhood stuff and social situations make it worse if I feel like I'm in a hostile environment, or like I'm not keeping up in skill level at least somewhat. Not sure what the point of this post was other than to say I'm a solo player who can see some issues with the way the game is atm and I feel for other solo players.
I've been playing destiny since d1 vanilla forever..I hate lfg n all my friends quit destiny around the release of vault of glass. Bungie was nerfing the shit out of weapons n the galli was near impossible to get. It's upsetting that to get better gear n weapons u have to do raids n grandmasters. So..I just opted to cheese everything because the game isn't solo player friendly. Everytime there is an exploit there comes the patch. Esoteric has been my go to interms of his mastery on higher level content as a solo player. I use his setups n try n mimic his style of play..without eso.. I would've quit along time ago. I refuse to use lfg..destiny needs to address the solo player issue
There was a video i saw, rhe dude stated this game isnt made for making friends its made for people with friends to start playing and it couldnt be anymore true ofc its not impossible but its just so rare for a random u added to need to do the exact same thing u need to do unless its just pvp for fun or something new like a raid or dungeon few days after release. So the only way to go about it IS lfg and there is nothing wrong with that but finding a group just takes long, and being dependent on other ppl for completing something is just tiring. I don't wanna waste an hour and a half on a raid so i just dont do them. I farm encounters which is a great way to counteract this problem cuz after one or two runs there wont be many mistakes made if u stick with the same ppl for the run, but its lowkey just sad that this game is like this. So much potential
This game is dead. I miss when destiny used to be fun and late nights with friends. Now it’s just a game for whales and hermits
Why cant they just put match making on everything , problem solved
I joined 6 lfg groups for the lastvwish raid. Got kicked from 5 because I made a mistake in a couple of encounters. However the last one I joined was full of really good people and helped me through it a couple of times.
Sad but not uncommon experience. Try to join a clan. It can help when folks see you have that in common.
To this day, it still blows my mind that they do not have matchmaking for all activities. As a father of three with limited video game time, the tipping point was for me when I spent an hour trying to get into a raid spent 10 minutes in the raid everybody quit out and then I said you know what I’m about to go to bed hour plus of my time spent doing nothing but trying to play the game. I just spent money on to buy the DLC. You can’t even interact with the only part of the DLC I was excited for.
Awesome Video. For another tip for dungeons, while watching the RUclips guide, use LFG to get access to each checkpoint and and run it solo a few times alongside the video. You will pick up the mechanics (Think rocky montage), try complete one cycle to get to a DPS phase or run the puzzle. Then once you get the mechanics down THEN you can LFG with "No Mic". ;)
It’s mostly due to player Toxicity. That noobs or solos leave. If there was a better way to raid guid others this wouldn’t be a problem. Sadly there no way to change this
What i dont understand is there is matchmaking available for vanguard strike missions but not for raids. I would be down for doing a raid with random people and making new friends.
How a multiplayer game, that needs fireteam, as the word "TEAM" slapped on it, doesn't have LFG ingame is beyond idiot.
been playing since 2014, never done a single activity that doesnt have matchmaking. i dont know a single other person that games
Thanks for the discord link. I myself as a solo player, have enjoyed the game since the Witch Queen. But it would be nice to have online friends to play with and not worry about “getting kicked” simply because I didn’t do 3 million DPS 😅
Yea me too , I just got back in to Destiny two . I stopped playing it for about three years. , everything is different now 😅
I'm a solo player. Just because you can solo raids and dungeons doesn't mean everyone can . In D1 I raided all the time met new friends and they had no problem teaching raid mechanics to new players. I had over 40 friends in my friends list . When D2 dropped because it was really bad all of those friends quit and moved on to other games except for 2 of them and we are on at different times due to obligations in life . I tried LFG several times but the D2 community is toxic ASF in my experience. They all say the same KWTD . But how are you going to know if you have never done it before. They forgot when it was their first time and someone taught them how to do the raid . So I haven't done a single raid in D2 . After almost 10 yrs of playing Destiny I have gotten to the point where it just doesn't matter anymore. I still play and have fun with the weapons and armor I have and that's all that matters to me.
Tbh as a new solo in destiny I was always scared lfg cause I was alway told everyone was rude and hateful but I join this discord and have meet the nicest ppl that are willing to teach if you don't know what your doing and I have made some friend along the way I definitely recommend this server 100%
Solo player here... Like Rodney Dangerfield says, I get no respect... solo players are not considered as valuable.
I wish I could get people to play destiny with me. The thing is that it is hard to get good, such as having a goal, some god rolls, enough resources, and actual skill.
But the main thing that stops people from playing with me is the actual investment with money.
A good 80% chunk of the game is behind some paywall. With all the DLC's equating above $150 dollars. That's not including the seasons and other smaller things.
Thanks for this video. Like you, I've always been a solo player. I used to belong to a Clan for a long time, but always felt intimidated because everyone in the Clan knew each other for a long time, and I never felt like I fit in. Also, what I know is that really good players get an attitude, an arrogance if you will that makes them toxic. I know that the success of any Raid/Dungeons etc., requires everyone knowing the mechanics and working as a team. I hate missing out on all the armor and weapons. Hopefully with this Discord I'll get confident enough to look for a group. Although, I like being a solo player, one of my realizations, that is true for life as for gaming. We have to NETWORK with other people. Otherwise we miss out on important information. In this case game armor and weapons.
If you’re a new player to Destiny 2 and are only interested in the campaign here are a few things to understand.
You start the game off fairly powerful. The reasoning for this is for you to be able to jump in with your friends and play together online, but if you’re only interested in the campaign its to your benefit because you don’t have to grind so hard to enjoy the story.
The Timeline is just a recap of the entire story up to The Final Shape. Some recaps are cinematic, some you have to read, and some are playable quests. As a new player you’ll want to play these quests to get the reward at the end.
Bungie now offers Shadowkeep and Beyond Light campaigns for free. Only the campaigns. To get the extra goodies that come with these respected dlc’s you’ll have to purchase their packs. again if you just want to play the campaigns don’t worry about it for now.
New Light not to be mistaken for Beyond Light, NEW LIGHT is an introduction to game and its mechanics. I recommend playing through it for as long as you can tolerate it and than start Shadowkeep. The first 3 dlc’s released are no longer available to download or purchase Bungie vaulted them so Shadow Keep is where the playable story campaign begins.
To start Shadowkeep you have to go to the Moon and click on the blue banner that will get you started.
Lastly, I just want to stress not to over think it. It a MMO and if you never played a game like this than it can be overwhelming. MMO don’t play like a traditional video game I.e God of War. You’re going to see other players on the map hopping around doing their own quests or even the same one you’re doing. Just ignore it and have fun. By the time you’ve finished the two dlc campaigns I guarantee you’ll have a better understanding of the game and its mechanics.
blah blah blah didnt read, I'm a prospective player looking to play a full game, not locked out of content. it seems bungie has done everything they can to shove potential/new players to the side in attempt to suck as much money as possible from the existing player base. I will decide when destiny 3 comes out
I've been playing since D1 this has always been a problem this game needs a queue for dungeons and raids
As a player since the beginning, I have thousands of hours between D1 & 2. That said, my raid group has burnt out and rarely plays, leaving me alone for the last couple of years. The last raid I finished was reprised VOG. I didn't even pick up Lightfall because I knew I was going to be alone and didn't feel like spending money for content I would not play. I recently picked up Lightfall with expansions for cheap and instantly lost myself catching up with the story. But now that I'm caught up I'm staring at Crotas End with no raid group, again. Can't wait till in-game lfg. I really hope the pull it off and it works well.
I honestly wish they would add lfg's to destiny 2 in-game or matchmaking as an option.
My social anxiety doesn't let me be anything but a purely, truly, solo player.
Imagine Raiding with friends. Couldn't be me.
*Ugly Crying Noises*
Its nit a problem tho. We need to quit expecting these online games ti always cater to solo players. We live in an "all inclusive age"now where if everyone can't do something its an issue. If I want solo play I go play a single player rpg. It's not hard to make friends or find people to play with. Everything is so anti social these days anyway so do we really need to keep adding to it? Like I get it. Some people just do not wanna do group stuff for watever reason, but realistically we can't expect all these online games to be 100% solo friendly. I miss the days where it was actually rare to see a person not in a group.
thank u
I disable cross play just so I can go into playlist, seasonal, event & other activities without being put on a fire team. Sit in orbit until it times out searching for guardians and sends me in solo. It’s a sad lonely existence. Worst of all they won’t let you commend yourself. 😢
I'm a certified loner my clan moved on to bigger and better things leaving me behind. I'm happy for them but it's hard to feel like I am apart of a clan when I'm the only one 🙃
The destiny community is to toxic to bother with lfg and discord sucks.
The price tag to either join or come back after a long time is the biggest obstacle. Wish they'd do a $10 subscription that includes all available content, a firing range to test exotic weapons that you've seen others use, a members only public space, and a public space for your clan. Something available to everyone could be a customizable shader for clans, also available in regular, cammo, or neon.
Can't even get into gm's without the team telling me to play well warlock
I’m becoming completely solo now but my main goal is low man’s but I wish my friends played so we could do it
To anyone who wants a simple version of this video this is what he’s saying
“If you want to do endgame content solo..don’t be solo”
Pretty much. This is such a clickbait video. "Learn to be social"
Well then 90% of players are solo players
So the solution for a solo players it's to not to be a solo player. It makes sense.
Great video nonetheless, for players that want to find a group to play LFG is definitely the best option.
Yeah you see, i want to do raids. But i have severe social anxiety. I could look up guides and fully understand all mechanics before going in, but i’m still scared to join other players. It’s always been like that, i do not interact with lfg’s either. I just can’t talk with anyone.
Yea I don't think this video address the issue some people have at all. It basically just says, "Learn to be social"
@@titus6573 true, like i want to but i just can’t. I know every single raid mechanic, cause i looked up guides and positioning and tasks i’d have to do. But, interacting with anyone gives me a panic attack and stresses me the hell out. So if i were to join anyone, i’d completely mess it up due to this and get all the blame. I know it sounds insane, but i just can’t do raids. And this is a huge problem some solo players have in destiny.
Do you want to use just keyboards?
Completetly agree, I used to play alot in groups but that was back in D1, D2 Most of the good stuff you need groups which I don't have anymore and bungie really should create options as they already do with matchmaking, why can this not be done with everything else, let people choose what they want to do. I play only about 10% of what I used to and this is purely due to the non matching stuff. This last season will be my last, its just grinding now, repeat this 200 times, repeat that 200 times same thing over and over, just boring in the long run. anyway enough now ;-)
Been playing since the beginning and have never played a dungeon or raid
Yep, after playing for 2.5yrs, I've never gotten to do a raid GM, and only 2 Dungeons, which I was carried through. Always been kicked because I have no idea what I'm doing, and the talk feature doesn't ever work for me on D2, but every other game it works fine(CS, COD, Battlefield, etc)! There should be matchmaking for every single aspect of the game, especially harder content like raids, GMs, and Dungeons!!!! Thought they where fixing that with Lightfall release, or that's what I heard before it was coming out. Whatever happened to that?
Solo players complain about playing solo in a multi-player game lol
i cant just solo level and 1v300??? i dont wanna share
I miss doing content solo in d1, didnt have to hrind for a month straight to have a perfect god build to do so. Young me would just load the nightfall and beat my head against the levels until I passed. Cheesing them was fun, finding the little spots and corners where you could avoid the boss attacks. Now the game feels impossible to just enjoy alone.
@paradigm2266 You are so spot on. Did the same, kind of fun to see how " undergeared" you could do it. In D1 I actually had friends in game that I played with regularly but as I got to busy to play because of work I stopped for several years, only peaked in now and then. Got back for real with D2 but left a year ago and have recently started playing again. Always loved being solo and loved the storyline. Now the fun feel is way down. You can find ways to cheese here and there still. Lol
@@ErikNielsendk I feel you completely I also had a large friend group that we would do raids and what not together but my favorite moments was alone. I miss being able to walk around Venus and such, just trying out a new weapon or admiring the view.
My favorite moment in destiny one were actually when I was doing the nightfall with the giant caball with the machine gun. It was one of my favorites to solo because there are so many spots and it was really difficult that you could do it.
I know a lot of people have negative things to say with the New Light experience, but I do think that alone is what compelled me to finally start opening up my isolation bubble with Destiny. Over a month ago, I played Destiny ONLY solo for YEARS (on and off again for 7+ years since D1 post Taken King / Iron expansions on the disc.) However, I finally got back into the game with Season of the Deep and I started completely from scratch.
Now, for the first time since forever ago, I completed not one but TWO raids two days in a row. I would recommend Kinder Guardians as they have a very handy sherpa system for finding helpful people. (There are two Destiny LFG groups, but only one has a Sherpa system in it. The other is kind of a crapshoot if you have no idea what to do.)