How to: SINGLESPEED Vertical Dropouts With No Tensioner

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  • Опубликовано: 29 апр 2021
  • If your frame has horizontal dropouts, the chain tension can be adjusted by moving the wheel position back and forward.
    On the other hand, vertical dropouts don’t have any room to move the wheel for adjustments, so a chain tensioner is most commonly used to make it work.
    But can you put the chain at the right length?
    The gap between the links is 1 inch, so the chance of getting it right is very unlikely.
    There are different sizes of bike chains, their width varies from 1/8” in singlespeed to 11/128” in 9/10-speed chains.
    First, remove a full link, outer and inner links, from the singlespeed chain.
    The process is to add an outer link to the setup.
    Now take out the 9/10-speed chain and expand the holes from the outer links with 5/32 drill bit.
    Connect the outer links together, insert the roller and then press the pin back in.
    And finally, remove the inner link from the singlespeed chain and then connect everthing back to the bike.
    The chain is now tightened by 1/2 inch.
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Комментарии • 48

  • @Sr.D
    @Sr.D Год назад +19

    Thanks for the clarification, I will use a tensioner

  • @havefunandbikestuff
    @havefunandbikestuff Год назад +1

    Subscribed! This is awesome information for singlespeed conversion.

  • @jasonloke2219
    @jasonloke2219 2 года назад +5

    Thanks a lot for sharing!!! Actually I have a half-link missing link. Your method is wonderful. I just love single-speeds; I have 2#. Thanks.

  • @fredro7192
    @fredro7192 3 года назад +24

    i use a halflink bmx chain links for this and i think it works better

    • @logee6750
      @logee6750 2 года назад

      So do you put a whole new chain ?or just a piece of the bmx chain

    • @fredro7192
      @fredro7192 2 года назад +1

      @@logee6750 both works fine

    • @jac1793
      @jac1793 2 года назад

      I’m using half link on my single speed mtb and my chain is loose

    • @B_COOPER
      @B_COOPER Год назад

      Half link chains wear a lot faster. As well as eat through your cogs. And most importantly, they’re heavier.

    • @markevinlagsac3252
      @markevinlagsac3252 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@B_COOPER he only use 1 half link so your googled argument doesn't matter.

  • @J_Smith7
    @J_Smith7 Год назад

    Great technique!

  • @Cirofixie
    @Cirofixie Год назад +1

    Thanks 🤩

  • @martingreen2358
    @martingreen2358 Год назад +4

    The only guaranteed method is to choose an acceptable gear ratio range eg. 1.8-2.2 and then find the combination that gives you a perfect chain length,
    Your cassette cog will also need to be reasonably close to the chainline.

  • @_cogojoe_
    @_cogojoe_ 2 года назад +5

    I got a bad feeling about this. Do not do this specially if you ride a fixed gear, the chain will most likely fail at that exact link or next to it.

  • @chrisko6439
    @chrisko6439 2 года назад +5

    This is asking for trouble/chain snap. I ride a singlespeed with vertical dropouts and no tensioner. I found a different solution, I have to use the chain for a few hundred km on another bike before I can use it on my singlespeed though, lol. I also filed the axle (quick release) kind of into a D-shape, so I have a little room for adjustment when the chain has lengthened further. I use a BMX cog with these long teeth and I have no chain drops whatsoever - until the chain has lengthened so much, I have to replace it anyway if I want to avoid wearing down chainring and rear cog prematurely.

  • @junocolburn6695
    @junocolburn6695 Год назад +1

    thus woulnt work with a narrow wide chainring would it?

  • @originalchristianvogt
    @originalchristianvogt 3 года назад +9

    Or just use a halflink

  • @hcokol17
    @hcokol17 Год назад

    Did you get any problem after that

  • @pablobroughton2892
    @pablobroughton2892 3 года назад +1

    ghost ring for me! never fails

    • @LowlyEidolon
      @LowlyEidolon 2 года назад

      What's a ghost ring?

    • @pablobroughton2892
      @pablobroughton2892 2 года назад

      @@LowlyEidolon search it on RUclips, it’s a third sprocket stuck in the chain to tension it. Looks very janky but works perfect if you have the right size

    • @LowlyEidolon
      @LowlyEidolon 2 года назад +3

      @@pablobroughton2892 thanks, that is a good explanation, I don't need to search for it

  • @lawyerengineer
    @lawyerengineer Год назад +3

    This alters the narrow wide sequence of the chain, so you’ll have sticking of the chain to a narrow-wide chainring every other full rotation of the chain.

    • @CandidZulu
      @CandidZulu 8 месяцев назад +1

      What does that mean?

    • @digerati808
      @digerati808 Месяц назад

      It means that on a narrow wide chainring, every other tooth is thicker, so your chain also has to have every other gap wider to except the thicker tooth. If you put two thin gaps next to each other on the chain, your chain will stick at the chainring every time it comes around in one full rotation.
      Narrow wide chainrings help keep the chain from dropping.

  • @Megadeth6633
    @Megadeth6633 3 года назад +1

    amazing. I would put a small washer between link plates to compensate for size difference

  • @hurronred2088
    @hurronred2088 2 года назад +4

    You just can buy half link bmx chain, and use it.

  • @Apollo-dv3iu
    @Apollo-dv3iu 10 месяцев назад

    I like how he uses the zip tie to hold the chain..

  • @lanceadriancantoja5779
    @lanceadriancantoja5779 Год назад

    I was wondering if I can use a 44t chainring with a 16t sprocket, will that work fine?

    • @DanyoSports
      @DanyoSports  Год назад

      Each bike is different, you have to try and find out if you need a half link or not.

    • @lanceadriancantoja5779
      @lanceadriancantoja5779 Год назад

      @@DanyoSports no I don't. I want a fixed gear conversion and I don't know the right gear ratio for a 16t that I bought. Is a 44t chainring good?

    • @shithead
      @shithead Год назад

      @@lanceadriancantoja5779 Each bike is different, you have to try and find out if you need a half link or not.

  • @arncj18
    @arncj18 2 года назад +2

    nno way am i doing this

  • @WHDRWN
    @WHDRWN 2 года назад +2

    My tip is to do it too tight then use the space in the dropouts to gain some slack like you would with horizontal dropouts.

    • @xXmartypooXx
      @xXmartypooXx Год назад +1

      Exactly, also wrapping a broken chain round your chainring and various cogs on the freewheel will tell you which ring you can use on the back, if the answer is none you will have to try another chainring.
      (you are likely to find one on a seven speed cassette)

  • @gautiermabille3042
    @gautiermabille3042 Год назад +1

    if your chain explode you know why...

  • @burtsevyg
    @burtsevyg 23 дня назад

    Half Link 1/2"x3/32" намного лучше

  • @stoyanoo
    @stoyanoo Год назад +1

    Just buy a halflink chain

    • @nzo_6543
      @nzo_6543 Год назад

      Nah still aint working on some bikes.

  • @Free__Speech
    @Free__Speech 2 года назад

    😂🤣 avoid

  • @rollinrat4850
    @rollinrat4850 3 года назад +11

    What a waste of time! You always need a method to compensate for chain wear. Chains get longer as they wear. Its inevitable! Use this chain for long or ride very hard and soon this chain will become slack. I hope you all have big budgets for new chains!

    • @benjamimc5x67
      @benjamimc5x67 3 года назад +1

      You are wrong. By your logic, it would be necessary to constantly readjust the wheel position, even on a bike with horizontal dropouts.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 года назад +8

      @@benjamimc5x67 Dont be absurd. Bikes with derailleurs have a means to tension the chain already.
      Singlespeeds with vertical drop outs need a chain tensioner to compensate of some sort for chain wear. Track bikes or dedicated singlespeeds often use horizontal
      dropouts, a chain tensioner or other means to adjust the chain tension. Are you saying chains don't get longer as they wear?
      I'm a pro shop mechanic. I own 4 singlespeeds and ride a whole lot.
      No, you don't need to retention constantly, but you definately need the means to tension the chain properly or you may not even be able to achieve proper chain tension. You can't just throw it on there.

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 года назад +3

      Chains don't actually 'stretch' technically. They wear on the pins and rollers which causes them to get longer. Therefore ALL chains wear as they are used. It's inevitable. If they're not wearing much, you're not riding enough.

    • @chrisko6439
      @chrisko6439 2 года назад +1

      @@CalmoOmlac If you got an axle with quick release, you can file it into a D-shape. This will give you some room for adjustment, when the chain has lengthened.

    • @xXmartypooXx
      @xXmartypooXx Год назад +2

      On a side note, i wonder how many undiagnosed brain injuries in the world there are..🤔