DEMONIZED Man MANIFESTS After Christian PROVES JESUS IS GOD | Sam Shamoun
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- DEMONIZED Man MANIFESTS After Christian PROVES JESUS IS GOD | Sam Shamoun
Anti-trinitarian views are deeply flawed and heretical, denying the clear biblical revelation of Jesus' divine nature. Hebrews 1:10-12 explicitly states that Jesus is the Creator, applying Old Testament passages about Jehovah to Him, affirming His deity. Jesus' identification as Jehovah is reinforced in Jude 1:5, where early manuscripts describe Jesus as the one who saved and punished Israel, showing His eternal and divine role.
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Hebrews 1:10-12: "He also says, 'In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment, they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.'"
Jude 1:5: "Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe."
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Anti-trinitarian views are deeply flawed and heretical, denying the clear biblical revelation of Jesus' divine nature. Hebrews 1:10-12 explicitly states that Jesus is the Creator, applying Old Testament passages about Jehovah to Him, affirming His deity. Jesus' identification as Jehovah is reinforced in Jude 1:5, where early manuscripts describe Jesus as the one who saved and punished Israel, showing His eternal and divine role.
Full Livestream:
First discussion:
ruclips.net/video/1izLKdIWLmI/видео.html
Second discussion:
ruclips.net/video/7k1poVaD4XI/видео.html
Relevant Articles/Sources:
answeringislamblog.wordpress.com/2018/09/21/jesus-christ-the-lord-god-who-saved-and-punished-israel-during-the-exodus/
Christian References:
Hebrews 1:10-12: "He also says, 'In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment, they will be changed. But you remain the same, and your years will never end.'"
Jude 1:5: "Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe."
Bravo Sam hbb
To anyone who can contact Sam. Brother Sam in Christ Jesus, I would like to ask you this: What is the exact translation of Allah into English? If the translation is God, then there is only one that tells lies about God and reveals these lies to the world to deceive many. If my thoughts are correct, is it OK for anyone on earth or under the earth to say something bad about Allah? Please note that my words above are only correct if Allah translation is God. Brother Sam, I'm 100% sure that you know God has many names in many languages. I believe that when someone says Allah is Satan, they are actually saying God is Satan. Can you imagine if the Quran used the name Elohim instead of Allah, would anyone dare say Elohim is Satan? ( I pray the the Holy Spirit guides me always and that the trinity reveals to you my point in trying to make ) To everyone who reads this and more importantly to almighty God, I'm sorry for not being able to write what I want to say more clearly. My intention is to learn and to protect all souls from hell. Satan loves to deceive and say bad things about God. Do not fall into his trap. Love of Jesus Christ, our God and saviour fill all our hearts forever and ever, Amen. Mary, mother of God, pray for us.
Trinitarians dont bieleve jesus is the father so saying jesus is Jehovah God is saying he is the father
Trinitarians contradict there own teachings
Where it says that Jesus created the earth brother? You are blindly trying to prove a point, burn this books and understand it is bullshit.
No metter what you said how you say it you change things. And to you all dumb asses God can do whatever he want, come as Jesus, make a son and make him God and one with him and create a trinity or wipe out everyone and make it truth it DOES NOT MATTER!!
0 knowledge of creation bible readers and prophet listeners like the islam god can't do that because it's not in his nature, even if that was true God can change truth and make it true and do it he created truth.
Trinity have been missunderstood my friend the father created everyone and everything as he wanted.
And when Jesus came they said the one that was before eons and the angel and not that he was the God himself by meaning of father. Jesus became God after death because he denied what devil offered.
A Text That Teaches the Trinity?
One example of a Bible verse that is often misused is John 1:1. In the King James Version, that verse reads: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God [Greek, ton the·onʹ], and the Word was God [the·osʹ].” This verse contains two forms of the Greek noun the·osʹ (god). The first is preceded by ton (the), a form of the Greek definite article, and in this case the word the·onʹ refers to Almighty God. In the second instance, however, the·osʹ has no definite article. Was the article mistakenly left out?
Why is the Trinity doctrine so difficult to understand?
The Gospel of John was written in Koine, or common Greek, which has specific rules regarding the use of the definite article. Bible scholar A. T. Robertson recognizes that if both subject and predicate have articles, “both are definite, treated as identical, one and the same, and interchangeable.” Robertson considers as an example Matthew 13:38, which reads: “The field [Greek, ho a·grosʹ] is the world [Greek, ho koʹsmos].” The grammar enables us to understand that the world is also the field.
What, though, if the subject has a definite article but the predicate does not, as in John 1:1? Citing that verse as an example, scholar James Allen Hewett emphasizes: “In such a construction the subject and predicate are not the same, equal, identical, or anything of the sort.”
To illustrate, Hewett uses 1 John 1:5, which says: “God is light.” In Greek, “God” is ho the·osʹ and therefore has a definite article. But phos for “light” is not preceded by any article. Hewett points out: “One can always . . . say of God He is characterized by light; one cannot always say of light that it is God.” Similar examples are found at John 4:24, “God is a Spirit,” and at 1 John 4:16, “God is love.” In both of these verses, the subjects have definite articles but the predicates, “Spirit” and “love,” do not. So the subjects and predicates are not interchangeable. These verses cannot mean that “Spirit is God” or “love is God.”
I can attest when I had my near death event during Covid Pneumonia (After my week stay in the hospital they forgot to xray my chest and I still had pneumonia which I didn't know until after the event), I arrived at the Throne of Heaven and Jesus was sitting on the throne when I arrived. Jesus is the King of Heaven. Jesus is so wonderful, loving and kind. I am writing a book for it. Jesus says he loves us so much. He also said he can't wait for us to be with him. He told me he is building things for us that we can never imagine. Jesus is God in the flesh. He is God who came to Earth to be able to show us he can relate to us. Jesus spoke into me without words and we went to his workshop. He was glowing from within. When I was there I saw myself my hands, my body, my hair, and I was young and beautiful and I was dressed in a beautiful dress the color like Ivory White with a Gold threaded organza overlay dress jacket, like a princess. When he took me to his workshop I saw him working at incredible speeds to build things. I did not understand but at this time he spoke with his mouth and he told me how much he loves us! He told me many things. I saw a big arched window in his workshop and I saw beautiful clear blue skies and a field of wheat as far as the eye could see. Maybe the wheat is his harvest (his people). When we were done, he brought me back to the throne room. He waved at the heavenly body of people souls all standing on a beautiful glass sea blue floor. There was so much space there but I could tell I knew everyone and could tell everything about them. We all walked together with Jesus and I could hear the joy there of the people. When we walked he pointed and waved, an a basket appeared. He said pick up the basket of your life. I picked it up and I was back here on earth floating above my body. I saw my lifeless body on the bed. After I was sick I spent 3 months on Oxygen and 3 years getting to feel right again. Then after I came back from my experience I was also given 2 dreams. One about a very evil dark army made of a huge dragon demon and the dogmen of Hell preparing to walk the earth - I think they planned to collect the souls of the people who the demons could trick against Jesus (nonbelievers - the unsaved). This was in Dec 2019. I also saw a dream about a war in the middle east. Praise God for everything he showed me. I have had many other events that were crazy like a checker at Walmart speaking to me in tongues. I had been feeling very close with Jesus earlier in the day and I saw her almost fall over when she was hit with the Holy Spirit. It was me and 3 other women who saw her, all of us customers. I was blown away. I know the Holy Spirit was around me and protecting me. I know Jesus' angels are protecting those of us who are belonging to Christ. Please hear my story. It's the truth. Please get saved today! Do not wait.
I just want to thank you Sam for showing me that Jesus Christ is king and the truth of the Christian faith. Ever since I came back home to god I’ve been blessed over and over. My cup running over with the blessings of the almighty. ❤
Is Jesus the “God” referred to at Hebrews 1:8?
No. The weight of the evidence indicates that it is Jehovah. According to the New World Translation, Hebrews 1:8 says: “But with reference to the Son: ‘God is your [the Son’s] throne forever and ever.’” This shows that Jesus’ throne, his office or authority as a sovereign, has its source in Jehovah the Almighty God.
However, believers in the Trinity prefer the Authorized Version, or King James Version, which renders Hebrews 1:8 this way: “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” Thus, they feel that Jesus is shown to be the same as Almighty God. Why is this not correct?
First, note the context. In many translations, either in the main text or in the margin, Hebrews 1:9 reads, “God, your God, anointed you.” This makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God, but one who worships God and is anointed by him.
Secondly, it should be noted that Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from Psalm 45:6, 7, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Surely the writer of this psalm did not think that this human king was Almighty God and neither did the writer of Hebrews think that Jesus was Almighty God. Commenting on this, scholar B. F. Westcott said: “It is scarcely possible that אלוהים [‘Elo·himʹ, “God”] in the original can be addressed to the king. . . . Thus on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne (or, Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God.’”
With good reason, therefore, the New World Translation and a number of other translations render Hebrews 1:8 as, “God is your throne.” (See An American Translation, Moffatt; also the marginal reading in American Standard Version, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible.) This makes it clear that the “Son,” Jesus Christ, has a God who is higher than he is.
@@alexshatner3907 IOW The ONLY BEGOTTEN SON sits on the right of The Heavenly Father.
Ameeen and Amen 🙏
He is the only Jehovah God Almighty. That is his word and it is the truth that sets you free. Thanks so much Sam 👌
@alexshatner3907 "according to the New World translation" LMAO, you're trying to disprove Jesus' divinity using a butchered and perverted translation of scripture, created by Jehovah's witnesses??
I was JW andi came to Jesus Christ last year. When i and my wife read only bible we see trinity. May our Lord Jesus Christ bless you my brother in Christ. Agape
Leaving the JW's was a good move, adopting the Roman doctrine of the Trinity not so.
@@Romerosays i read and see that in the bible only
@@Romerosays but it is complicated, therefore i understand them who are not trinitarians
@@zixiswexi if you don't see the word "trinity" in the inspired scriptures of God then why say it. If it was plain to see you wouldn't need to invent it
@@Romerosays ok. If it is better for u: I belive in God: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. All those words are in bible. Better?
Jesus Christ Is REAL, and very much ALIVE! O, Praise the Lord ✝️
2Кор 13:13: "Благодать Господа нашего Иисуса Христа, и любовь Бога Отца, и общение Святого Духа со всеми вами. Аминь."
Я рад видеть русских здесь. Сэм Шамун просто молодец!
ΑΛΛΗΛΟΥΙΑ!!!!! Ο Θεος μας να σε ενισχυει ολο και περισσοτερο στο δυσκολο εργο σου. Δοξα στο Ονομα Του!!!!
Our love for our Lord Jesus Christ makes us warriors against the kingdom of darkness. We don't allow anyone to rob Jesus of His glory. Jesus is God!
"I go back to the father" , "let not my will but your will be done" "my decipals shall pray to THE FATHER" "heavenly father, great be thy name"
@@coolkidxpead4038 yes Lord Jesus Christ go back to the father because for God so love the world that He sent us His only begotten Son to redeem us from sin so that we can have eternal life . That is the will of the father.
My prayer to lord jesus is to give u all wisdom and knowledge to defend the word of God.
Amen Sam zeal for God is needed
Matthew 15:26, KJV
"But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs."
Keep teaching my brother by the power of The Holy Spirit!
In The Mighty Name of Jesus!!! Amen
Whenever people get testy with me about Jesus' divinity, I always quote John 17:5 to them:
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.
What does that verse show?
1. Equality of Godhood with the Father.
2. Jesus existed before the world.
Beautiful ❤️✝️
What Glory did Jesus achieve before the world began? If Jesus is said to be "slain before the foundation of the world".. Why then was Jesus slain twice?
@@Romerosays Jesus is God. As God, he was there during the creation of the world. Jesus says it himself: "the glory I had with you before the world began."
Only God was there before the world began. Jesus was there.
Jesus is God 🙏
@@normalman8447 You're preaching two gods mate! I would say three, but none of you guys ever mention the holy spirit in your "Jesus is God rants". Anyway Christs glory was predestined by the Father, you know, that God who Jesus himself claims to be the one true God. The Fathers own testimony is that he created alone, Jesus in the gospels verifies it, and makes no mention of being there himself and for obvious reasons, as he was not yet born. Do you understand the concept of being born? its when life and consciousness begins. Jesus was born, that's how and when the Father begotten him.
ALL the believers have a glory with God before the world began, it's just Jesus was the first to receive his amongst all his brethren. Christ is the first fruits of all those who sleep! did you forget that?
@@Romerosays brother, you've just read Jesus saying he shared the glory with the Father before the world began. You're just in denial.
Jesus isn't crediting the father for his glory. He isn't thanking them.
He's saying: I was there with the father before the world began. No one put me there. I'm fully God.
Just like the father and the Holy Spirit are.
Also, no. No one is preaching 2 or 3 gods. You're so wrong it's laughable.
Jesus is God. The father is God. The Holy Spirit is God. All equally God. One God.
I TRULY like your assertive approach...dear brother Sam.❤
Exorcism is direct and to the point. It’s the only way to be with demons or they speak in tongs and nonsense.
Praise the Lord Jesus who lives forever and ever! Keep preaching brother.
The Apostle Paul in School of Tyrannus used to teach with 'disputings and persuasions'. Now I know what that means with the way Sam deals with all these demon influenced people (including Christians who think that being nice and polite is a doctrine that takes them to heaven).
Amen ✝️
Thank You Sam for Your Wisdom Knowledge and sharing the Gospel ✝️
I Believe and Trust in Jesus Christ of Nazareth ✝️ Thank You God for Everything You Do for Us All ✝️ I Love Jesus Christ ✝️❤️✝️ The Only Way to Heaven is Through Faith in Jesus Christ of Nazareth ✝️ Amen ✝️💞✝️
Ask what you can all do for Sam.
But do not ask Sam why he does it.
For he is the messenger and the bringer of light to the darkness.
He is our one eyed man in their blind kingdom.
Love you brother and I pray for the return of your daughters every day. ❤
Let us emblazen these words in our heart...
Revelation 22:18
For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
This is so extremely helpful for me as a Christian too!!❤
The Lamb is The Lamb of GOD, The Only Begotten Son of GOD. JESUS
Where does anyone say he isn't the lamb of God?
Jesus is the only direct creation by Jehovah God
That's why hes called only begotten
Jesus is the only son that Jehovah God fathered directly
@AstariahJW by that logic, what about Adam? What about angels?
This man may think he knows scripture but is extremely rude and provoking ……. Trying to provoke with insults hoping the man reacts ( which he didn’t) so he can say he has a demon! How evil. Where is the fruits of the spirit ….. you shall know them by their fruits…. The man he is insulting shows more fruit than him…… ( pride arrogance self righteous etc) I will not be revisiting this channel! This is not zeal for The King….. you need to repent!
@@Leahloveisla
He doesn't know scriptures
That's why he twists them to try to get it to say what it's not saying
Thank you Sam you have helped a lot in my spiritual journey. I am now looking at becoming born again.
SAM SHAMOUN YOURE THE “SWORD” OF GOD HERE ON EARTH MAY GOD BLESS YOU
I like your approach. I have learned much from you to strengthen my faith. God Bless your patience for I will not suffer a fool lightly.
Brother, such knowledge..is God Gifted! Blessings from a Greek Orthodox psychologist
I'm on team Sam baby!! go Sam gooooo!! Jesus for the win!!
Cheeehhhooo👑🙌💯🙏All the time God is Good & Faithful💯🌎Hi Sam from New Zealand🙌
Sam Thank you ,
just straight upfront to
The point. with
The scriptures showing
Jesus is GOD
I see how you dwelt with
The demonised man
With wisdom getting him
To look on scriptures and answer honestly & directly
Praise the LORD
AMEN 🙏
Anyway who talks like he is to that guy got a scorpion spirit
SAM THE PAGAN TRINITARION WHO THREATENS TO DISCONNECT THE CALL WHEN THE CALLERS DON'T GO ALONG WITH HIS BOGUS BELIEFS
It’s really a real bible study
Not for A CHRISTian
but for a Muslim friend who is a completely unwise
I pray for Wisdom to be given to all who truly seeks the TRUTH so that
They will come to the knowledge of CHRIST
Amen
I love how zealous you are for the Bible, Jesus…THE TRUTH…. you’ve encouraged me to want to memorize that word for word the way you have. It’s amazing. Praise You Lord Jesus Christ!
Amen and Amen may GOD give more boldness to Edify us with HIS Holy scriptures 🙏
"I dont know" is probably the three most liberating words in any language.
But pride prevents the fool from escaping an unlocked prison.😢
I love the way you defend our Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ the Son of God. Thank you for your zeal. Praise God in all things great & small, glory to God, Jesus is KING
Blessings honor glory and power to Jesus
I LIKE HAW THIS MAN IS TELL THEM THE TRUTH ☝🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 ABOUT JESUS CHRIST 🙏🏽❤️
Wow! You are just awesome! Praise Jesus he made a great choice in you. Thanks Sam. I am convinced now in my belief in Jesus. I have said to myself. If when I die. If Jesus isn't there. I want nothing to do with the afterlife. I don't want to exist. I'm safe
AMEN thank YOU LORD JESUS CHRIST ❤❤❤❤❤
My mom was the kind of person where if you walked up to her and she didn't like you she tell you right away and tell you to get away from her. Or she would be the fiercest friend you've ever experienced. No lying truth every time
Love the sinner not the sin.
Thank you brother you were much better today. I love your knowledge, your teaching me too. I thank you so much . Im sure its very hard and exasperating but take a deep breath and breathe. You will get through to him now or after he leaves and thinks about it.
Thanckyou Sam. Lord Jesus bless you
Honey, you did so much better today. God bless you.i truly love you because you love Jesus so much,i do too. But i learn so much from you.
Jesus open the eyes and hearts of all people to the Truth of God's Holy Word the Bible in Jesus name I pray Amen 🇮🇱 🙏 Jesus is the only Hope for Salvation there is no other way Amen 🇮🇱 🙏 Jesus our Savior and our God Hallelujah Amen 🇮🇱 🙏
❤I love your honesty dear brother in Jesus... I am learning more and more all the time from you explaining the Truth in the Holy scriptures...
I wish I could argue like you!
Awesome work you do!!❤
Blessings from Germany
God bless and continue to prosper you Sam in heavenly wisdom. I'm learning a lot and loving my Jesus more 💯🙏✝️❤️
Fair play to you Keep up God’s work praise Jesus 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you Jesus
Praise to our trian God, to raise brother sam, I've learned scripture alot,to help others to the faith.
Teach as you like! I listen
The demon has difficulty mentioning Jesus Christ.
Praise the Lord our God Jesus Christ 🙏
Thank you bro. I am really proud of you. Keep it up. Jesus Christ is God.
Thanks Sam, they'll soon see.
10:34 "Dont impress yourself because you´re gonna embarrass yourself." - Sam Shamoun
The Lord sent you to me to help sharpen my sword! I watched two of your videos back to back, you've earned my sub!
Thank you for this video Sam . I'm so Thankful for Bold Preachers like you. I would Love to see you convert Andrew Tate from Islam to Christianity.
Sam, I know you get impatient...but remember YOU ARE DEALING WITH HUMAN BEINGS... they may be deluded, they may be wrong, they may be testing your patience...but please for the LOVE OF GOD...stop being insulting... You are a mine of information, you have a blessed ministry, but YOU need to apply 1 Corinthians 13... especially verses 1, 2 and 4...
BE HUMBLE! And I say this with love...
@@KatarinaKatrene WRONG. We are NOT fighting with flesh and blood, but EVIL AND PRINCIPALITIES! Satan is a deceitful lion and seeks to devour and destroy!
We are to be STRONG in our words and fight evil.
Sam knows a lot of these boys, he had been debating for many many years; they shut their ears because that is what Satan wants for them, and they don’t listen to God or want to learn.
Sam is fighting the good fight, he’s showing tough love because he cares!
@@carrie_kyou are right. As warriors of Christ , we don't only do defensive move but we need also offensive tactics
@@KatarinaKatrene If you are under the influence of Islam, you are under the influence of Satan. There is NO doubt that Satan is preset during these discussions and wants to pull who he can away from The Lord. He is a deceiver! Sam is not rebuking these students to hurt them; he’s rebuking the devil and casting them away!
I agree Sam discerns satanic forces,he is totally speaking directly to them not the person, u cuddle Satan's demons and see how far you get !!
@@carrie_k I did not say we are FIGHTING with humans, I said we are DEALING with humans...the fight is against Satanic entities...but you don't INSULT a human because he is burdened by a Satanic entity... I have bound demonic spirits under my breath, when I dealt with a man that couldn't stop cursing...and he was not even aware... He continued speaking but the curses stopped... You don't take your frustration with Satan out on a human...
Ill pray for his dad to come out of the JW. He planted a seed. God will water it.
Jesus Christ IS God in the flesh. Who humbled himself and came to us in the flesh. Who died for us on the cross for our sins and defeated death itself and rose on the third day and then ascended into heaven.
" I and the father are one"
" If you have seen me you have seen the father"
" Before Abraham I was"
" I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end".
" In the beginning the word was with God and the word was with God".
Jesus Christ IS God, the father, the son and the holy spirit. 3 in one person, in one body. If you deny the trinity, you deny God himself.
And to deny the holy spirit is a blasphemous sin and the unforgivable sin.
For those of you wondering how Sam does things.
Tituz c1 v13
This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith
I love your approach Keep fighting you have the knowledge. God bless you.
Thank you for answering alot of my questions..AMEN
Yep shame on that guy,son of the Devil,i thought it's a brutal line at first but later after analysing the man properly i found out that he's a hypocrite and hence Sam was right
Jednak pamiętajcie aby nawracać z miłością. Nie nazywałabym kogoś synem szatana tylko dlatego, że się narodził w innej religii. Prawda o Chrystusie tak ! ale przekazana z większą miłością bo Bóg jest miłością. Wszystkich błogosławię w Imię Ojca i Syna i Ducha Świętego. Amen. Pozdrawiam z katolickiej Polski !
Sam is talking to the demon that possessed that person who is robbing Jesus out of His glory. Our battle is not against blood and flesh but against principalities that dwells in high places
@Apoloniala.... I understand your concern. However ALL liars are considered to be "children" of their father of ALL lies - Satan. The caller was intentionally trying to demote The Lord's divine status yet muslims place their dead sexual deviant on a pedestal. ☝🏾😌
SAM BROTHER WHO ARE YOU??? JESUS CHRIST ETERNAL AND ALMIGHTY GOD BLESS YOU TO ANSWER ME...
Who is the first muslim of adam muhammed jesus?
If Muhammed is the first, how can he be before jesus 600 years and Adam 4600 years?
Stop insulting people, you’re disrespectful. It’s sad 😢😢
Is Jesus the “God” referred to at Hebrews 1:8?
No. The weight of the evidence indicates that it is Jehovah. According to the New World Translation, Hebrews 1:8 says: “But with reference to the Son: ‘God is your [the Son’s] throne forever and ever.’” This shows that Jesus’ throne, his office or authority as a sovereign, has its source in Jehovah the Almighty God.
However, believers in the Trinity prefer the Authorized Version, or King James Version, which renders Hebrews 1:8 this way: “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” Thus, they feel that Jesus is shown to be the same as Almighty God. Why is this not correct?
First, note the context. In many translations, either in the main text or in the margin, Hebrews 1:9 reads, “God, your God, anointed you.” This makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God, but one who worships God and is anointed by him.
Secondly, it should be noted that Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from Psalm 45:6, 7, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Surely the writer of this psalm did not think that this human king was Almighty God and neither did the writer of Hebrews think that Jesus was Almighty God. Commenting on this, scholar B. F. Westcott said: “It is scarcely possible that אלוהים [‘Elo·himʹ, “God”] in the original can be addressed to the king. . . . Thus on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne (or, Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God.’”
With good reason, therefore, the New World Translation and a number of other translations render Hebrews 1:8 as, “God is your throne.” (See An American Translation, Moffatt; also the marginal reading in American Standard Version, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible.) This makes it clear that the “Son,” Jesus Christ, has a God who is higher than he is.
@alexshatner3907
ARGUMENTS AGAINST:
Their founder, C T Russell, was only 20 years old when he founded the Wachtower Tract Society, which would reorganize to become Jehovahs Witnesses, and he didn’t wasn’t even able to have completed a 4 year biblical degree at this point.
The linguists who translated the New World Translation (Jehovahs Witnesses Bible) were not qualified to translate Greek or Hebrew, and tried to keep their identities hidden. Even the most successful, and prolific Greek translator of the 20th century, came out publicly against the cult.
Knowing that JWs weren’t qualified to translate language, have an edited New World Translation Bible that contradicts gods word. They have also changed their Bible several times throughout the cults small time being around. It should send off red flags, and warning signs, that a group started like a 150 years ago, has rejected what Christianity has preached for 1800 years, and now think that what they have is the truth, when that’s not the case.
They have predicted numerous false prophecies. The big ones I have seen are:
1914- Year designated by C T Russell for Christ’s visible second coming.
(No return of Christ. Prediction is false. Yet he is the JW’s inspired, authoritative, and prophetic founder/leader.)
1925- Year predicted as the year Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and the prophets would return to earth. (From a booklet in 1920 entitled Millions Now Living Will Never Die, pp.89-90) (Nowhere in the Bible does it say Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob would return after their death. And the prediction was false. This would be the second false prediction in 20 years of the new birth of this religion.)
1975- Year predicted for Armageddon, based on calculation of Adam’s creation (determined to be 4026 BC) plus 6,000 years. But Watchtowers leading up to that year warn that no one can predict “the day or hour” with certainty. (We see the founder of this group started with a false prediction, as well as the next three successors. Not to mention, the same “Watchtower” that now says no one can predict with certainty was created by the founder who made a false prediction. Oh, and this was another false prediction.)
5. They don’t know who the real Jesus is. They have changed John 1:1, to fit what they have made up to be a true verse, claiming that God was a god. However, as I stated earlier, the linguists were not qualified to translate, and they didn’t translate this very accurate at all. John 1:3, in their own NWT, destroys anything John 1:1 is claiming in their NWT, so their made up Bible, still says what they don’t want it to say.
6. They disfellowship members for commiting major and minor sins. They’ll tell you that this isn’t the case and it’s only for major sins, such as marriage unfaithfulness, but my in-laws are JWs, and have been disfellowshipped by multiple Kingdom Halls, just for questioning doctrine for clarification. Also, they will not disfellowship, even when you commit behavior that warrants it, such as getting blackout drunk and making a fool of yourself, not attending Kingdom Hall services, and even adultery. Want to know how I know this? My Uncle-in-law has done all of those, and was never disfellowshipped, he simply was talked to by the elders to not conduct that behavior…but he still did, and nothing ever came about. It’s as if the Kingdom Halls, don’t even obey, or acknowledge in some cases, what the WT has laid out and just do their own thing.
Read the Bible before you make such comments go and read how Jesus called a group Pharisees brood of vipers and a lot of things,go and study your bible
I’m truly conflicted here. On one hand I admire and have respect for my brother Sam’s vast knowledge of both Islam and the Bible. He’s given me many talking points when it comes to how to show the fallacies in Islam. HOWEVER, that being said, I can’t in my spirit condone how he talks to and treats these Muslims and anyone who doesn’t fully follow Christ. Insulting someone and calling them dogs isn’t how you win souls to Christ. I have zeal for my lord same as you but I don’t belittle or mock others so DO NOT say shame on me. We as Christians should walk a fine line between preaching the truth unashamedly without flat out bullying someone.
How many Muslims have you brought to Christ? Have you ever rebuked a manifesting demon?
I think you are under the impression these people are truth seekers when in reality they are trolls. I've seen Sam pivot to unbelievable kindness and tender teaching when the person shows him/herself to be open and earnest. It's the ones who call in to simply stall and preach their own gospel so to speak that are using Sam's platform to obfuscate and confuse. These he is very short and dismissive of. Have you ever wondered why they stick around after the first insult? You and I would be like, "Hey - I don't deserve to be treated like this!" but they keep going because they KNOW they are simply there to waste his time.
Keep in mind that Sam is a warrior in Christ, and he’s been fighting on the front lines for decades, I would say show him grace and pray for him that his sacrifice doesn’t make his heart hateful or resentful, it’s not easy dealing with these people that butcher and disgrace our Lord and our scriptures.
Pray for him and his family that The Lord gives him peace and joy in his personal life so he can focus on the good work he does battling these people.
I don't mind him.
That’s a common sentiment I see from Christian’s who aren’t used to dealing with Muslims. I’ll spare you paragraphs of explanation but you can trust me when I tell you they respond to shows of strength and knowledge. Not only that but even Jesus resorted to strong language and even straight up insults when necessary. Pay attention to these videos and how often Muslims avoid answering questions and try to pivot. They respond to being forced to stay on topic.
I have a question and is why the father and the son are one but I feel they behave differently. I know that the son is the key of salvation and tbh I love Jesus. But idk why I can’t get to understand the father. I want to get closer to the father and accept him the same way I love the son.i know the father is more like a judge in my perspective and the son is this living part of him with pure love and is a person I will love to met one day and hang out with in paradise, learn from him and adore him. I don’t feel the same way to the father and I want to change that.
You know someone has issues when they can't even say the word ask instead using Axe, "I'm axing you.."
That has nothing to do with not being able to properly learn English.
Bravo Sam Shamoun, you are the sword of the Lord cutting to the bone marrow. Muslim give it up you are not able to destroy the scriptures that clearly say that Christ is God.
List of my heroes:
Jesus
Mary
Noah
Moses
Job
Elijah
Abraham
Peter
Paul
Sam Shamoun
David Wood
Amen!
Sam,you have to remember that you are a sinner. You have sinned too. So,don't call people cowards or dogs. That's not the way. Only Jesus can call anybody like that yet even jesus didn't choose these kind of words. God bless.
Such an intelligent man who ANYONE can learn a lot from. I, myself have watched a good portion of his debates. I watched because I thought maybe he could steer me in the right direction. Well, he started to but the 'anger' I see him exude when he believes someone else is wrong & he is right is off-putting. Then the 'pride' shown when he shuts someone down is also severely off-putting...
Are all people who try and bring you to Jesus like this? From my experience, yes...😢
AMEN
give the ppl a chance to speak also
Lords work knowing the Bible
Please pray to Jesus. You still have time. The Tribulation is about to happen! Even if you're not sure, ASK JESUS TO REVEAL HIMSELF TO YOU! HE WILL!!!!!! PRAY DIRECTLY TO JESUS, NOBODY ELSE. I pray eyes be opened and the spirit realm to be seen in all those who see this message in Jesus name Amen! GET A BIBLE OR INJEEL ASAP!
Brother that guy on the phone doesn't even want to say the name of Jesus Christ, he struggles to say Jesus.
There are no grounds within civil debate where one human being calls another a Dog.
ABC,123.
Poor guy he needs a deliverance
Patience is a virtue, youtuber.
Sam! Your ridicule of the ignorant does not resemble Christ's spirit. Most of your arguments are solid. I concur with those. But humility! Is key!
Jesus Christ dealing with demon possession was the same as Sam Shamoun so just stop crying
He fighting for jesus jesus is god and they denied that
Didn't Jesus Christ call the religious leaders harsh words. Islam teaches that if you are kind with the Muslim they believe that you are weak. Something to think about.
Stop playing victim, narcissist. Sam is forged in the fire and his recent interactions with jp and siig have proven imo he walks clearly in the way of Christ. Christ is King ; bukhari 3848
@@adamherman460God* lower case "g" indicates for satan.
18:50 if you take a swig of alcohol for every time he says "kind of," you'll be passed out in short order.
Prasie God! Jesus is God!
Is Jesus the “God” referred to at Hebrews 1:8?
No. The weight of the evidence indicates that it is Jehovah. According to the New World Translation, Hebrews 1:8 says: “But with reference to the Son: ‘God is your [the Son’s] throne forever and ever.’” This shows that Jesus’ throne, his office or authority as a sovereign, has its source in Jehovah the Almighty God.
However, believers in the Trinity prefer the Authorized Version, or King James Version, which renders Hebrews 1:8 this way: “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever.” Thus, they feel that Jesus is shown to be the same as Almighty God. Why is this not correct?
First, note the context. In many translations, either in the main text or in the margin, Hebrews 1:9 reads, “God, your God, anointed you.” This makes it clear that the one addressed in verse eight is not God, but one who worships God and is anointed by him.
Secondly, it should be noted that Hebrews 1:8, 9 is a quotation from Psalm 45:6, 7, which originally was addressed to a human king of Israel. Surely the writer of this psalm did not think that this human king was Almighty God and neither did the writer of Hebrews think that Jesus was Almighty God. Commenting on this, scholar B. F. Westcott said: “It is scarcely possible that אלוהים [‘Elo·himʹ, “God”] in the original can be addressed to the king. . . . Thus on the whole it seems best to adopt in the first clause the rendering: God is Thy throne (or, Thy throne is God), that is ‘Thy kingdom is founded upon God.’”
With good reason, therefore, the New World Translation and a number of other translations render Hebrews 1:8 as, “God is your throne.” (See An American Translation, Moffatt; also the marginal reading in American Standard Version, Revised Standard Version and The New English Bible.) This makes it clear that the “Son,” Jesus Christ, has a God who is higher than he is.
@@alexshatner3907You can only make that argument by ignoring all other Biblical references to Christ as the eternal Godhead.
@@cee-emm God is either God or he's not, and clearly there are more scriptures that debunk that dirty pagan belief of the "Trinity" WHEN Jesus gave his prophecy about the end of this system of things, he stated: “But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” (Mark 13:32, RS, Catholic edition) Had Jesus been the equal Son part of a Godhead, he would have known what the Father knows. But Jesus did not know, for he was not equal to God.
Similarly, we read at Hebrews 5:8 that Jesus “learned obedience from the things he suffered.” Can we imagine that God had to learn anything? No, but Jesus did, for he did not know everything that God knew. And he had to learn something that God never needs to learn-obedience. God never has to obey anyone.
The difference between what God knows and what Christ knows also existed when Jesus was resurrected to heaven to be with God. Note the first words of the last book of the Bible: “The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him.” (Revelation 1:1, RS, Catholic edition) If Jesus himself were part of a Godhead, would he have to be given a revelation by another part of the Godhead-God? Surely he would have known all about it, for God knew. But Jesus did not know, for he was not God.
Jesus Continues Subordinate
IN HIS prehuman existence, and also when he was on earth, Jesus was subordinate to God. After his resurrection, he continues to be in a subordinate, secondary position.
Speaking of the resurrection of Jesus, Peter and those with him told the Jewish Sanhedrin: “God exalted this one [Jesus] . . . to his right hand.” (Acts 5:31) Paul said: “God exalted him to a superior position.” (Philippians 2:9) If Jesus had been God, how could Jesus have been exalted, that is, raised to a higher position than he had previously enjoyed? He would already have been an exalted part of the Trinity. If, before his exaltation, Jesus had been equal to God, exalting him any further would have made him superior to God.
Paul also said that Christ entered “heaven itself, so that he could appear in the actual presence of God on our behalf.” (Hebrews 9:24, JB) If you appear in someone else’s presence, how can you be that person? You cannot. You must be different and separate.
Similarly, just before being stoned to death, the martyr Stephen “gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus standing at God’s right hand.” (Acts 7:55) Clearly, he saw two separate individuals-but no holy spirit, no Trinity Godhead.
In the account at Revelation 4:8 to 5:7, God is shown seated on his heavenly throne, but Jesus is not. He has to approach God to take a scroll from God’s right hand. This shows that in heaven Jesus is not God but is separate from him.
In agreement with the foregoing, the Bulletin of the John Rylands Library in Manchester, England, states: “In his post-resurrection heavenly life, Jesus is portrayed as retaining a personal individuality every bit as distinct and separate from the person of God as was his in his life on earth as the terrestrial Jesus. Alongside God and compared with God, he appears, indeed, as yet another heavenly being in God’s heavenly court, just as the angels were-though as God’s Son, he stands in a different category, and ranks far above them.”-Compare Philippians 2:11.
The Bulletin also says: “What, however, is said of his life and functions as the celestial Christ neither means nor implies that in divine status he stands on a par with God himself and is fully God. On the contrary, in the New Testament picture of his heavenly person and ministry we behold a figure both separate from and subordinate to God.”
In the everlasting future in heaven, Jesus will continue to be a separate, subordinate servant of God. The Bible expresses it this way: “After that will come the end, when he [Jesus in heaven] will hand over the kingdom to God the Father . . . Then the Son himself will be subjected to the One who has subjected everything to him, so that God may be all in all.”-1 Corinthians 15:24, 28, NJB.
Jesus Never Claimed to Be God
THE Bible’s position is clear. Not only is Almighty God, Jehovah, a personality separate from Jesus but He is at all times his superior. Jesus is always presented as separate and lesser, a humble servant of God. That is why the Bible plainly says that “the head of the Christ is God” in the same way that “the head of every man is the Christ.” (1 Corinthians 11:3) And this is why Jesus himself said: “The Father is greater than I.”-John 14:28, RS, Catholic edition.
The fact is that Jesus is not God and never claimed to be. This is being recognized by an increasing number of scholars. As the Rylands Bulletin states: “The fact has to be faced that New Testament research over, say, the last thirty or forty years has been leading an increasing number of reputable New Testament scholars to the conclusion that Jesus . . . certainly never believed himself to be God.”
The Bulletin also says of first-century Christians: “When, therefore, they assigned [Jesus] such honorific titles as Christ, Son of man, Son of God and Lord, these were ways of saying not that he was God, but that he did God’s work.”
Thus, even some religious scholars admit that the idea of Jesus’ being God opposes the entire testimony of the Bible. There, God is always the superior, and Jesus is the subordinate servant.
‘New Testament research has been leading an increasing number of scholars to the conclusion that Jesus certainly never believed himself to be God.’-Bulletin of the John Rylands Library
When Jesus cried out: “My God, my God, why have you deserted me?” he surely did not believe that he himself was God
In the comments saying Sam is a harsh debater lol. You need to be ruthless with the devil if he dwells within you. Christ rules.☦🛐❤
I believe Jesus Christ is God Almighty, and he told Philip when you've seen me you've seen the father and I think the Trinity is a Roman catholic teaching, but I know that Jesus Christ is God Almighty
Sam slam dunks the devil.. im christian and i love it😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Follow up first time.can you analyse word prophets statements as it has really thrown me.
24:30 Goes into Darkness ? A person who’s not in the Light (Lost) realizes How Dark their life is. The watch Tower just as Satan is a False teacher of What true lite is. Satan is The Father of Lies.
I don’t think this was a conversation. I like this guy tho but he was very rude. You can have dominance in a much cleaner way. But thank you for the fight! We all need to have a fervor for God
Not Jesus of Greek but Mary's son. There is no way to translate names.
17:30 antichrist spirit didn't let him to admit that Jesus in the throne.
So brother, which is the accurate bible I should read
I think he is mentally stuck with the concept of the word 'son'. The muslim doesn't know that the word 'son' is about relationship, eg a man can be a father to some, a brother to another, a son-in-law to yet another, a nephew or a grandson to some other and he can move seamlessly in all these roles as occasion demands without even thinking.
W Kościele Katolickim nikt w taki chamski sposób nie przekazuje wiary. Prawdziwy Kościół Katolicki Tradycyjny uczy miłości do bliźniego bez epitetów i poniżania.To czego Katolikowi wolno nienawidzieć to jest „grzech”, każdy ma wolną wolę a Pismo Swiete jest zinterpretowane dla wszystkich przez doktorów kościoła bardzo mądrych ludzi a nie przez każdego jak sobie chce i co tam wyczyta i zrozumie. Są przekłady Biblii ja jednak polecam Biblię Jakuba Wójka. Laudetur Jesus Christus
Its in front of him and he say God hahahahaha
The Book of Genesis identifies and validates all 3 personas of YHWH God.
Open ypur Bible - any version.
See how it says, God created. God SPOKE (FREQUENCY), into the darkness and CREATED LIGHT.
It goes on, God, God, God.
Then it talks about the Spirit of God...
Hovering over the waters. (The Holy Spirit).
Then it goes on to say, The Lord God. The Lord God, The Lord God. - This is Yeahua.
Look here - Genesis 1:26 10:14
Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;
The word OUR is a plural word, not a singular word.
And again... Genesis 3:22
Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”-
My version of the Bible is the Septuagint and Sinaiticus, 1914 edition!@
Behave you self Sam, you getting too cocky man...try and be a little more patient and humble and stop from disrespecting the people, they reach out to you with confrontation yes but with the application of love if you know Jesus...you can win them to this gospel rather Than embarrassing them man....what you are teaching people it's not yours but belongs to...he don't need you learn that..he only using us to reach each other in genuine love that we know not but only can show it through the sacrifice Lamb...
.so pls stop behaving soo as if you are the one who wrote the scripture but try and be a respectful teacher.....member Nicodemus and Jesus, you are a brilliant man you know what I mean...cool
What happened to the end?? It just cut off leaving me hanging!!!