This is great news for me. I have the two albums they did in the 80's. Goran Edman is one of my favorite Yngwie Malmsteen lead singers ever. As long as Goran Edman is part of this Madison reunion I am on board.
I'll accept a Mythos E.P. as a stop-gap for now. I've been starved for music related content from this channel for long enough that I've resorted to re watching the archives. Your Dokken video is how I found you all those years ago.
Album art: 2:18 Pantera (van art/mascot) 9:45 Venom (tombstone) 10:52 Venom - Prime Evil 11:29 Icon - Night of the Crime 12:02 Icon - Hot Desert Night (reminds me of “The Running Man” from NEO TOKYO) 13:47 Icon - Right Between the Eyes 14:31 Madison - Best in Show (and 16:37) 15:54 Madison - Diamond Mistress 17:04 Vinnie Vincent - Invasion
Not gonna argue with any of your choices, here's my list 1.Riot - Fire Down Under 2.Stillborn - Necrospirituals 3.Znowhite - Act of God 4.Sword - Metalized 5.Pentagram - Day of Reckoning 6.Helix - No Rest for the Wicked
I'd seen Pantera many times in the 80s in Dallas ,Fort Worth. From the Terry Glaze days to when they transitioned to Power Metal with Phil,it sucks that they denied their past. Great band!!
Dude, thanks so much for including Icon in this video! I found a cassette of their first album at a party in 1985, and I was so blown away by World War that I left with it, in my pocket! Honestly, I couldn't tell if you favored the first or second album more.
Being from Pantera's hometown and around their age(slightly younger), I followed them when they were hair metal too. Their album Projects in the Jungle was a favorite album as I was getting into metal.
Good choice. I personally like Cowboys from Hell the best (I may be biased because it's their first album I heard from them), but there's very good tracks in their earlier career. Didn't dig their later outputs.
1 - Riot : Fire Down Under 2.- Warlord : And the cannons of Destruction Have Begun... 3 - Anvil : Forged in Fire 4 - Culprit : Guilty as Charged 5 - Virgin Steel : Guardians of the Flame 6 - Ostrogoth : Full Moons Eyes (EP) 7 - Legend : Death in the Nursery 8 - Gillan : Mr. Universe 9 - Sortilege : Larmes de Herós 10 - Saracens : Heroes, Saints and Fools 11. Heir Apparent :Graceful Inheritance
i was hoping "Pantera - Power Metal" was on here, and lo and behold he started the list with it. awesome. really really good album if you give it a chance
A few mentions… Savage Grace - Master Of Disguise Stryper- To Hell With The Devil Helstar - A Distant Thunder Raven - Rock Until You Drop Loudness - Lightning Strikes
Me: can you do the 2000’s bands Razor: There’s nothing in the 2000’s I’m not sure what he likes in the 2000’s but metal is not dead yet😅 “Metal is Dead” litchis that want too bury you down; I still alive and won’t go away easy. You fucks out there.
If you play Seventh Star with out mentioning it's Black Sabbath everyone digs it. However the moment you say it's a Black Sabbath record everyone will start to hate it. Stating it's "Not real Black Sabbath".
Reminds me of St. Anger. The snare on it is pretty bad sounding overall, but the main reason I feel people really really hate it is because its METALLICA. If some other band had done it wouldn't have been as egregious. The songs outside the snare are good and the snare just makes it sound... out of place as an album..
Since the early 80s, Sabbath has been Iommi. He kept it alive and evolving and making awesome music well into the 90s, so sod anyone who says that all that later material "ain't Sabbath".
Cirith Ungol is back, and boy are they still sweet! I have a feeling you'd appreciate the subject matter of their latest album Forever Black. ;) Also, as a Dane I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that Pretty Maids isn't Swedish, even if they caught the wind of the excellent Swedish metal output of time.
I'm so glad you gave Pretty Maids a shoutout! Their catalog is brilliant, Future World in particular! (Although my personal favourite is Motherland) They are Danish though, not Swedish.
Henry, who let you out of comics RUclips? Van art was awesome even when it was bad, because it invariably got points for creativity. How I miss thee, 70's and 80's. But hey, we've all got iPhones, CGI movies, and social justice now -- so I'm sure everyone's enjoying "the future."
@@SamGuthrie1977 Haha yeah, comics and music are the only things that interest me lately. Regarding van art, my dad had a friend when I was a kid who was an airbrush artist in SoCal, and he used to do van art. I have a deep appreciation of the art form. Have they invented time travel yet? I wanna go back lol
I just like your ability to explicitly present the essence of the subject matter (with great, and an almost obnoxious, clarity and enthusiasm) with a right-in-your-face approach. I fully agree with your comments, although, in some cases, I hadn't heard the album before. The 80s did officially bring us metal as we know it today (and yes, big hair metal :( ). So I'm sure there are some treasures out there I haven't appreciated yet. I'll go hunting. Thanks and keep up the good work! :)
I've met Phil and had him sign my copy of Power Metal and he actually said it was the album he was most proud of. He said he recorded every vocal part in one take with zero effects and he got laid more during the Power Metal era than he ever did in the 90s. I said to him "its a real shame that Vinnie acts like this era never happened because these are the best vocals you've ever done" and he said "Man FUCK HIM, I'm proud of that album" (this was back when Vinnie was still alive BTW). It was really mainly Vinnie Paul who tried to dismiss that entire era of the band. I disagree with your assessment that the band went downhill after though because Cowboys From Hell is very similar in style to Power Metal and was actually originally recorded in 88 or 89, then re-recorded in 1990 when they got on a real label. They even played Power Metal songs on the CFH tour and some of the early CFH merch still had the old 80s Pantera logo on it, so I've always considered CFH as one of the "glam" albums. Everything after 1990 definitely sucked though.
Yeah when I re-listened to CFH recently I was surprised how similar it actually still was to Power Metal and how much I enjoyed it! For some reason, maybe the album cover and imagery, I thought CFH was the beginning of their groove sound, sorta but barely. Vulgar Display of Roid Rage is where they went full force into the groove, and it's the album which unfortunately spawned too many less talented copycats of the worst genre of metal imo lol
I think Vinnie was bitter that the band didn't sell more records in the 80's. I don't think Dimebag, Phil, or Rex were ever that embarrassed or butthurt about the 80's stuff.
I have just finished bingeing your Music / Metal mythos and Rageholic Cinema and I'm so impressed that I can't wait for more great fun and informative keep up the brilliant work.
@@marcopervo I think you can definitely tell the influence of the "And Justice for All.." drum sound in the 90's Pantera stuff. But then again, you can tell the influence of that drum sound in most late 80's early 90's metal.
The first Flotsam and Jetsam album, featuring pre-Metallica Jason Newsted "Doomsday for the Deceiver" was great. I seem to remember buying it because Kerrang mag rated it 6 out of 5 stars. Or whatever rating symbol they used.
For me some underrated albums are: Warlord - Deliver us from evil Rage - Secrets in a weird world Black Sabbath - Headless cross Blue Murder’s first album Spitfire - First attack and the Danish band named Randy. They only released demos and eps but they are great. A fine example by them is the song “the beast”
Warlord's album was fantastic - they actually had at least one other 1980s era album that basically re-recorded a few of the songs with a different vocalist, IIRC, which was also great stuff, and they reappeared in the 2000s with a comeback album or two - the band seems to have just appeared out of nowhere, slipped in under the radar to release one album, vanished, returned a few years later under the radar to make a little comeback to redo it, then vanished again with hardly anyone noticing, except those of us who stumbled across it by accident in the bargain bin at the record store. Warlord were underrated, underpromoted, underexposed, and really deserve a little more attention for being a great little traditional heavy metal band that somehow fell between the cracks....
My friends older brother turned us on to Pantera, we lived in OKC at the time and they were always playing down in Lawton, ok at the hard rocks club. I discounted them because I didn't like the singer. Who knew?
Great call! "Lightning Strikes" and "Samurai" are such awesome tracks. I actually love Black Hearts and Jaded Spades as well, I know that one is a little more controversial. But I thought it was great, especially the title track.
How about a metal mythos special for the great Martin Birch who has gone to the great recording studio in the sky. His credits are AMAZING. All Deep Purple albums from In Rock to Come Taste the Band. All the Dio era Rainbow albums and his two 80’s album with a Black Sabbath. All Whitesnake albums up to and including Slide it in. The three first and excellent Wishbone Ash albums and ALL Iron Maiden albums from Killers to Fear of the Dark. all classics. What a resume that guy had. The two best Blue oyster cult albums. RIP.
All of the albums I have heard produced by Martin Birch have given me more than my money’s worth. The man was impeccable and has turned out some of my favorite albums by some of my favorite bands. Proper tribute must be paid to him.
@@johnschou2172 he was an absolute tour de force in the studio. I own more Martin Birch produced albums than any other producer. Mutt Lange pfft, who’s he.
The multi-vocalist idea for Seventh Star would have been awesome. In For the Kill - Rob Halford No Stranger to Love - Robert Plant Seventh Star - Glenn Hughes Danger Zone - Dio Heart Like a Wheel - David Coverdale
Black Sabbath-Eternal Idol Risk-Daily Horror News Pantera-Projects In The Jungle Steeler- Undercover Animal Black Sabbath-Headless Cross Testament-The New Order That would be my list.
So happy to see ICON in this video, I discovered them myself about 6 months ago, all 3 albums from them are good even if each one of them is different in tone.
There's also a "An even more perfect union" , which I also kinda liked, and would love to get it again (don't think I still have it). I remember liking "Gold bullets" very much :)
Super glad you sunk your teeth into ICON and gave them a spot on here man! Great group of guys and they released 4 awesome albums in the 80s that should be well up there. Thank you!
"Criminally underrated" indeed, time to "Raise The Hammer". But seriously, I was a mixed tape machine as a kid, and most of them had Icon's "Raise The Hammer" on them. AOR metal at it's absolute finest.
Have to say, you've turned me on to Malice. This guys voice is awesome and I have been into "power metal" for quite a while. Great find and sad I missed them back in the day.
Me too it's a freaking great album. I would have picked Born Again (which is one of my all time favorite Sabbath albums of any era) but can agree that Seventh Star is far less well known and more underrated than BA.
Rumor has it Malice - License to Kill was rejected by United Artists for the main theme song of the Timothy Daulton's, James Bond vehicle License to Kill.
It would be easy to differentiate both, the bond title and song was licence spelled with a C and I highly doubt Bond fans like heavy metal except for maybe 20 of them myself included.
My 6 (with heavy emphasis on "underrated"): 1. Marshall Law- s/t (1989) 2. Tokyo Blade- Night of the Blade (1984) 3. Running Wild- Port Royal (1988) 4. Riot- Thundersteel (1988) 5. Blue Murder- s/t (1989) 6. Lillian Axe- s/t (1988)
Holy shit! Are we twins? Well played, I’ve been listening to Malice since I got the album in the 80’s, it’s one of my “go to” albums on my iPad and listened to regularly. Killer tracks and quality metal. Same with Icon. Greetings from UK by the way.
Just a handful of underrated records Virtue - We Stand to Fight Wolf - Edge of the World Anvil Bitch - Rise to Offend Pantera - Power Metal (I know Razorfist already covered, but it's amazing) Vardis - Quo Vardis Wild Pussy - Mechanarchy EP Satan - Court in the Act Battleaxe - Burn this Town
I also agree with you that The Seventh Star is a phenomenal Black Sabbath album. I actually love all the 80's Black Sabbath albums like Born Again, The Seventh Star, The Eternal Idol, and especially The Headless Cross. All these albums should have been huge in my opinion.
Pantera's earlier career was glam and rock metal, but they followed market demand for much heavier material in the 90's. I love Cowboys from Hell, which is their transition point from rock to heavy metal (the two different vibes mixed together worked very well), but I wasn't much into their later stuff. Can't remember what I heard in Vulgar Display of Power.
@@jocaerbannog9052 I was never into these guys I understood why people liked the band but i never could get into it . And this coming from someone that born and raised in Texas.
My take on early Pantera is that Phil Anselmo slowly insinuated his influences/faves like sweet Nawlins molasses into the more straight ahead Priesty glammish ( only ish never thought they went full glam,at least on record. Wardrobe is a different story tho)stew.Most obvious influence Exhorder. And did I mention Exhorder?
Cowboys from Hell has some good songs like Domination and Vulgar Display of Power is kinda eh. I haven't tried getting into their other albums, they just don't interest me.
I like the energy Pantera had with their nasty riffs, and Phil's aggressive voice. I didn't have interest for bands like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden because they were too high pitched, like power metal. Didn't sound intense enough. Pantera makes me feel like I can kick some ass when I listen.
Glenn Hughes is one of Rocks all-time greatest vocalists. Love his work on the 1985 Phenomena album. Joe Lynn Turner and Glenn are both monster singers. Great list of underrated bands! I'm definitely gonna get the Malice, Icon, and Madison albums. How about Warrior's Fighting For The Earth and Shy's New Birth albums. Always thought they were underrated gems. Thanks for the video.
It kills me that the 80's catalogue isnt ever acknowledged. Those albums aren't on spotify or much anywhere else and after watching this video, I now know why.
Cool that you included Madison, but I prefer Heavy Load, Gotham City, Mindless Sinner and a few others. But good 'ol 80s metal from Sweden. I actually had a website about Swedish 80s metal back in the day. hehe
Top 6 Deadly Blessing - Ascend From The Cauldron Thor - Recruits Flatbacker - Esa Banshee - Race Against Time Minotaur - Power Of Darkness Tyrant - Legions of The Dead Such good shit.
RAZORFIST: "Here's a list of metal albums: ME: "Oh, great. I got another shopping list." Seriously, brother- you've never let me down. When I was a young kid, this music was new. And because my parents were in whacko church cult, I didn't get to experience this and many other normal things. Thanks for giving me back a piece of life I missed.
The Seventh Star isn't so much fine wine as it is XXO brandy. Distilled essence of Earth & Black Sabbath in one album, with Glenn Hughes providing the pot still function. And then rested on the charred remains of the 80's. Also I get goose-bumps just from the opening riff of Danger Zone, what a heavy powerhouse.
I find it crazy that just 12 days before this video an interview with Stephen Clifford (Vocalist) & Dan Wexler (Guitar) two of the five original members of Icon was uploaded on a channel called 'full in bloom' were it mentioned that they were well into working on a new album with the original line up. They said that they had 7 to 8 songs written already so I hope we get to hear them once more again soon.
YESSS!! Finally somebody mentions ICON and who does it take??? You my friend! I'm from Phoenix, AZ and moved to the Bay Area in 1983, but I remember hearing their name around town along with Surgical Steel. Then one day I was at a local record store in Pleasant Hill, CA and found their debut album and I picked it up purely for the album art and really didn't realize it was ICON from AZ until I read the back of the album cover. Holy shit I was greatly surprised and have been a mega fan of ICON ever since.
All great choices, I’ve never heard of Madison until recently. One album I’d highly recommend that is severely underrated is Endless War by Realm. Very aggressive but yet technical thrash with a kick ass production backing it up. Also, Realm was Monte Conner’s first band he signed to Roadrunner records. Sepultura was signed shortly after Realm got signed. Realm’s second record Suiciety is another underrated gem.
Pantera's one of my favorite bands and I love all their albums, but I always like seeing people give props to the 80's albums, especially Power Metal. The whole album kicks ass, especially love the early thrash sound of the title track, Over and Out, Down Below, and Death Trap. Phil's actually said he'd like to reissue that album before, but I suppose if what you're saying about the Abbot's is true there'd probably be legal issues with estates/wills and what not if he and Rex just went ahead and reissued it. Going off of either general dislike or being ignored, my top 6 favorite underrated 80's metal albums would probably go something like this: 1. Helstar - Burning Star 2. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love 3. Judas Priest - Point of Entry 4. Black Sabbath - Born Again 5. Pantera - Power Metal 6. Razor - Custom Killing
At the time, we were Solitude. Had to change the name to Solitude Aeturnus. I left the band in '90. They went on to record 6-7 albums. Great doom metal. Some of the best ever imo.
@@TheSshadow7 That must have been cool. I pass the spot where Joe's once stood almost every week. I'd never be able to go back there now, even if it were still open. I'm too old and broken. Still, fun memories. None of mine are from the stage, but still.
Although his musical tastes differ a lot from mine in some instances(I was more a Thrash guy growing up) , I still find the Metal Mythos series enjoyable and entertaining.
Agreed - in the '80s I was more of a NWOBHM and "extreme metal" kind of guy, with Venom, Mercyful Fate, Possessed, Hellhammer, and the like getting more of my attention than anything else going into the thrash era, before Florida and European death metal caught my attention, and all the weird subgenres of extreme metal that followed the collapse of the metal era through the '90s (doom, gothic, 2nd-wave black, symphonic, avant-garde, folk metal, and that sort of thing) carried me through those dark times. The sort of traditional/"hair" metal that makes up most of this list is almost all new to me, but I'm really getting a kick out of the Metal Mythos videos, and look forward to them. I've even added albums from The Ramones and Stryper to my collection thanks to these videos: it's great stuff I would normally never have given a second thought to....
I was into thrash metal, early death metal and yes....grunge. Razorfist and I would have a lot to disagree on but metal mythos is still fun as hell to watch.
Another great video, man! Just a little correction - Pretty Maids is Danish. One of our oldest heavy metal bands here in DK, and they are still playing on.
I actually stood up and screamed in excitement when Seventh Star appeared. This album is perfect in everything it does and Razor, without you, I wouldn't have even picked it up so thank you for that. Star of India demo ablum is also great. Mob Rules I feel is a grossly underrated album as well as many people think it's just a "meh" song for the animated movie Heavy Metal. There is a lot of Dio's medieval power in the album and it's sadly over looked. "One day people will wonder where real music went, and they'll come back to this album." - Dio on Mob Rules
Good news for anyone getting into Madison for the first time:
They have recently reunited and are working on new material.
facebook.com/MadisonSweden/
Dude, please do a savatage Metal Mythos.
Who???
Icon is working on a new album too with all original members. Check out the full in bloom interview here on RUclips.
This is great news for me. I have the two albums they did in the 80's. Goran Edman is one of my favorite Yngwie Malmsteen lead singers ever. As long as Goran Edman is part of this Madison reunion I am on board.
A couple bands that always get over looked are....... Loudness and the Fifth
Angel. I totally remember jamming out to both of those bands.
I'll accept a Mythos E.P. as a stop-gap for now.
I've been starved for music related content from this channel for long enough that I've resorted to re watching the archives. Your Dokken video is how I found you all those years ago.
'Zactly. "Jsheeezus, kitten- punching Xrist, what an album!"
*AFTER THIS MYTHOS GLENN HUGHES CONTACTED RAZOR TO REMIND HIM HE STILL DOESN'T REMEMBER THE 80'S*
His best chance of remembering the 80's is going to be when he's over 80 years old LOL
You sure that wasn't Joe Biden?
Did he survive the plane crash?
@@mrhed0nist yes, he went on to become Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knoxville county.
@@GunManGunHand he's too busy sniffing kids hair.
Album art:
2:18 Pantera (van art/mascot)
9:45 Venom (tombstone)
10:52 Venom - Prime Evil
11:29 Icon - Night of the Crime
12:02 Icon - Hot Desert Night (reminds me of “The Running Man” from NEO TOKYO)
13:47 Icon - Right Between the Eyes
14:31 Madison - Best in Show (and 16:37)
15:54 Madison - Diamond Mistress
17:04 Vinnie Vincent - Invasion
As much as I disagree with Razor on Pantera's 90's output, glad to see Power Metal being appreciated. This album is sick. Cheers!
Not gonna argue with any of your choices, here's my list
1.Riot - Fire Down Under
2.Stillborn - Necrospirituals
3.Znowhite - Act of God
4.Sword - Metalized
5.Pentagram - Day of Reckoning
6.Helix - No Rest for the Wicked
RIOT HELL YEAH
Act of God, the best and most underrated pure thrash metal album of the 80s
@@ChrisLee1353-c6e Forged in Fire is a masterpiece
Sword - Metalized is an excellent album. If anyone ever wants to know what traditional Heavy Metal sounds like, play them this album.
Be Forewarned is another great one by Pentagram, and probably even more overlooked than DoR.
I'd seen Pantera many times in the 80s in Dallas ,Fort Worth. From the Terry Glaze days to when they transitioned to Power Metal with Phil,it sucks that they denied their past. Great band!!
Man, just talking with you over beer regarding metal history would be a trip. Thanks for the new MM.
Razor sups molten metal and shits steel rods 🤟🏻
@@holydiver73 Scientifically proven fact: All these bands are considered wood until Razor, through alchemy and rage, makes them METAL!
Dude, thanks so much for including Icon in this video!
I found a cassette of their first album at a party in 1985, and I was so blown away by World War that I left with it, in my pocket!
Honestly, I couldn't tell if you favored the first or second album more.
Being from Pantera's hometown and around their age(slightly younger), I followed them when they were hair metal too. Their album Projects in the Jungle was a favorite album as I was getting into metal.
Thats my favorite Pantera album.
Good choice. I personally like Cowboys from Hell the best (I may be biased because it's their first album I heard from them), but there's very good tracks in their earlier career. Didn't dig their later outputs.
CFH every track🤘
My favourite too!!
1 - Riot : Fire Down Under
2.- Warlord : And the cannons of Destruction Have Begun...
3 - Anvil : Forged in Fire
4 - Culprit : Guilty as Charged
5 - Virgin Steel : Guardians of the Flame
6 - Ostrogoth : Full Moons Eyes (EP)
7 - Legend : Death in the Nursery
8 - Gillan : Mr. Universe
9 - Sortilege : Larmes de Herós
10 - Saracens : Heroes, Saints and Fools
11. Heir Apparent :Graceful Inheritance
Riot, Warlord and Heavy Load
Some of my favorites
We need a Venom Mythos. Who agrees?
He plans on doing one
@Captain Bruh That's way too many of traditional heavy metal bands. It's already time to do some extreme metal mythos
100% agree!!
BEST. BAND. EVER.
I would be down for it!
i was hoping "Pantera - Power Metal" was on here, and lo and behold he started the list with it. awesome. really really good album if you give it a chance
Their best. I'm being serious.
Awesome album some of the music with Terry glaze is definitely worth a listen to
Their song “Rock The World” is my favorite track
I think it's pretty underated and truly a great album definitely not my favourite
@@shawnmcnally1254 na great southern trend kill is there best
Pantera + Metal Mythos. Did hell just freeze over?
They all died in an airplane crash in 1989 and we never heard from them again.
Later Pantera is good too ;D
@@bardhi09 someone had to say it
my cargo shorts stood on end! 😂
@pedro Later 'Tera is my preference, but *P.S.T. 88!*
*_NUFF SAID!_*
A few mentions…
Savage Grace - Master Of Disguise
Stryper- To Hell With The Devil
Helstar - A Distant Thunder
Raven - Rock Until You Drop
Loudness - Lightning Strikes
To hell with the devil isn’t underrated, it’s appreciated and a classic legend of an album for a reason. It’s up there!
MM IS BACK
FINALLY
Always look forward to these!
Razor is quite good at opinion documentaries. Never boring and always informative, even if you don't agree.
All of Savatage's albums, Metal Church's A Blessing In Disguise and Riot's Thundersteel should all be on this list.
Indeed
Metal Church's 'Masterpiece' is, for whatever reason, off so many peoples radar. All those bands you mentioned are way under rated.
Thundersteel!!!
It's a list of six albums, you can only fit so many on it
Love Thundersteel.
Me: can you do the 2000’s bands
Razor: There’s nothing in the 2000’s
I’m not sure what he likes in the 2000’s but metal is not dead yet😅
“Metal is Dead” litchis that want too bury you down; I still alive and won’t go away easy. You fucks out there.
Metal was so fucking dead in the 2000's
MegagamerX1000 Music in general!
nah, at least there was Celtic Frost.
What about Paparoach?! *Hellfire missile enters through the window*
@@di3486 SOAD tho
i love how into this music you are, refreshing to hear someone talking about band and band members that have been all but forgotten - beautiful
I would add first two albums of Crimson Glory. Mostly forgotten, yet awesome!
I was about to say the same thing. Those two albums are amazing! R.I.P Midnight
Anyone who's heard of USPM knows them. Transcendence is one of the genre's best known and most renowned records.
Strange And Beautiful not so much.
The Pantera hair metal days were honestly good.
If you play Seventh Star with out mentioning it's Black Sabbath everyone digs it. However the moment you say it's a Black Sabbath record everyone will start to hate it. Stating it's "Not real Black Sabbath".
Reminds me of St. Anger. The snare on it is pretty bad sounding overall, but the main reason I feel people really really hate it is because its METALLICA. If some other band had done it wouldn't have been as egregious. The songs outside the snare are good and the snare just makes it sound... out of place as an album..
Like something my friends would say. They refuse to acknowledge any Black Sabbath Without Ozzy or Dio.
80's Sabbath > 70's Sabbath
Since the early 80s, Sabbath has been Iommi. He kept it alive and evolving and making awesome music well into the 90s, so sod anyone who says that all that later material "ain't Sabbath".
@@CreamySpoon agreed
Razorfist is the last remaining quality on RUclips. Love this man's work.
Can we expect a 90s sequel? Or perhaps even a 70s prequel?
He literally said "...we'll do them *one decade at a time*..."
1870s Heavy Metal: The Symphonies of Anton Bruckner.
@@Mikudude1billion Not good with jokes I see.
Freewheeler ! “Top 6 2030s albums that haven’t arrived yet but I know will be underrated.”
Come on 90s🤘🏻
Cirith Ungol is back, and boy are they still sweet! I have a feeling you'd appreciate the subject matter of their latest album Forever Black. ;)
Also, as a Dane I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that Pretty Maids isn't Swedish, even if they caught the wind of the excellent Swedish metal output of time.
The 80s album covers are so freaking cool.
I'm so glad you gave Pretty Maids a shoutout! Their catalog is brilliant, Future World in particular! (Although my personal favourite is Motherland)
They are Danish though, not Swedish.
That Pantera album cover would be right at home on the side of a sweet 70's van, next to a wizard or a dragon or some shit.
Henry Bemis driven by the 12 year old that drew it
Seen at 2:18 for the curious 😉
I think that’s their mascot, Nopantos.
Henry, who let you out of comics RUclips? Van art was awesome even when it was bad, because it invariably got points for creativity. How I miss thee, 70's and 80's. But hey, we've all got iPhones, CGI movies, and social justice now -- so I'm sure everyone's enjoying "the future."
@@SamGuthrie1977 Haha yeah, comics and music are the only things that interest me lately. Regarding van art, my dad had a friend when I was a kid who was an airbrush artist in SoCal, and he used to do van art. I have a deep appreciation of the art form. Have they invented time travel yet? I wanna go back lol
@@henrybemis3439 Me too, dude. I'd go back to 1986 and stay there perpetually haha
I just like your ability to explicitly present the essence of the subject matter (with great, and an almost obnoxious, clarity and enthusiasm) with a right-in-your-face approach.
I fully agree with your comments, although, in some cases, I hadn't heard the album before.
The 80s did officially bring us metal as we know it today (and yes, big hair metal :( ). So I'm sure there are some treasures out there I haven't appreciated yet. I'll go hunting.
Thanks and keep up the good work! :)
As a veteran of the 80's, I endorse this video.
Damn fine picks and thanks for the memories! Well done!
Cool vid as usual man, best way to end the day a cold one, dinner and a new music mythos by Razörfist.
I've met Phil and had him sign my copy of Power Metal and he actually said it was the album he was most proud of. He said he recorded every vocal part in one take with zero effects and he got laid more during the Power Metal era than he ever did in the 90s. I said to him "its a real shame that Vinnie acts like this era never happened because these are the best vocals you've ever done" and he said "Man FUCK HIM, I'm proud of that album" (this was back when Vinnie was still alive BTW). It was really mainly Vinnie Paul who tried to dismiss that entire era of the band. I disagree with your assessment that the band went downhill after though because Cowboys From Hell is very similar in style to Power Metal and was actually originally recorded in 88 or 89, then re-recorded in 1990 when they got on a real label. They even played Power Metal songs on the CFH tour and some of the early CFH merch still had the old 80s Pantera logo on it, so I've always considered CFH as one of the "glam" albums. Everything after 1990 definitely sucked though.
The band never went down hill music wise not even close. They just evolved into somthing different
Yeah when I re-listened to CFH recently I was surprised how similar it actually still was to Power Metal and how much I enjoyed it! For some reason, maybe the album cover and imagery, I thought CFH was the beginning of their groove sound, sorta but barely. Vulgar Display of Roid Rage is where they went full force into the groove, and it's the album which unfortunately spawned too many less talented copycats of the worst genre of metal imo lol
I think Vinnie was bitter that the band didn't sell more records in the 80's. I don't think Dimebag, Phil, or Rex were ever that embarrassed or butthurt about the 80's stuff.
I have just finished bingeing your Music / Metal mythos and Rageholic Cinema and I'm so impressed that I can't wait for more great fun and informative keep up the brilliant work.
Pantera - Power Metal is like Judas Priest crossed with Accept mixed with Queensryche at times.
Definitely hear that early Queensryche sound.
Pantera in the 1990's sounded a lot like the early Metallica, but with more guttural vocals and chugging guitar with solid state amplification.
Yep, I do wish they hadn’t abandoned the Power Metal direction in favor of the BBQ metal shit show that they became.
@@marcopervo I think you can definitely tell the influence of the "And Justice for All.." drum sound in the 90's Pantera stuff.
But then again, you can tell the influence of that drum sound in most late 80's early 90's metal.
"We'll meet again" was so awesome live.
Night Of The Crime - one of the most underrated albums of the 80's. Could not agree more!
The first Flotsam and Jetsam album, featuring pre-Metallica Jason Newsted "Doomsday for the Deceiver" was great. I seem to remember buying it because Kerrang mag rated it 6 out of 5 stars. Or whatever rating symbol they used.
Yup ,that was badass
No Place for Disgrace was also epic! All downhill from there.
I remember seeing them at Lamors in BROOKLYN great for metal in the 80s.
What a fucking epic record that was! I don't think Jason ever got the credit that I so well deserved
Awe YEA!!!! I forgot about that album!!! I'm going to dig into my cassette box and dig it out!!!!
Honorable mention, even though more hard rock: MSG - Assault Attack. Bonnett & Schenker create a true underrated gem.
Wonderful album and the song Samurai is top notch.
@@michaelseay9783 Oh yeah! the opening riff of Samurai is killer!!!
Absolutely, Rock You To The Ground is a masterpiece
@@michaelseay9783 Yes it is!! Bonnett DESTROYS on that song!!!
For me some underrated albums are:
Warlord - Deliver us from evil
Rage - Secrets in a weird world
Black Sabbath - Headless cross
Blue Murder’s first album
Spitfire - First attack
and the Danish band named Randy. They only released demos and eps but they are great. A fine example by them is the song “the beast”
Warlord's album was fantastic - they actually had at least one other 1980s era album that basically re-recorded a few of the songs with a different vocalist, IIRC, which was also great stuff, and they reappeared in the 2000s with a comeback album or two - the band seems to have just appeared out of nowhere, slipped in under the radar to release one album, vanished, returned a few years later under the radar to make a little comeback to redo it, then vanished again with hardly anyone noticing, except those of us who stumbled across it by accident in the bargain bin at the record store. Warlord were underrated, underpromoted, underexposed, and really deserve a little more attention for being a great little traditional heavy metal band that somehow fell between the cracks....
Yes! I love Deliver Us by Warlod! One of the earliest Power Metal sounding bands.
Rage's catalogue doesn't get enough recognition. From heavy, to speed, to kinda proggressive, to thrash, to symphonic metal. These guys can do it all.
id argue Tyr and Cross Purposes is more underrated but hey to each their own
Glad to see someone finally mentioning ICON's sophomore effort; had my copy of NOTC been a tape, it would have been worned out by now.
Texans in their 40's, such as myself, well remember Pantera's Glam Dayz.
My friends older brother turned us on to Pantera, we lived in OKC at the time and they were always playing down in Lawton, ok at the hard rocks club. I discounted them because I didn't like the singer. Who knew?
For certain! I still live in Pantego!
Power Metal was an excellent album...
@@MajesticDemonLord Projects in the Jungle
Saw them a few times in bars in Amarillo when they still were "glam."
ICON 's 1st 2 albums were my religion during the early 80's. Im 51 now, but still love all the catchy hooks & overall coolness.
Metal keeps one looking young !
Seventh star is incredibly underrated and I enjoy 1996 Dep Sessions, and Fused releases also. Let’s all hope they collaborate again in the future.
The most underrated 80's records full fucking stop, Night of The blade by Tokyo blade!
It was a good one
I was just on a 80s metal rewind the other day, that one came up in the mix.
Oh yeah, Tokyo Blade rules.
Madame Guillotine, fuck yeah!
Great call! "Lightning Strikes" and "Samurai" are such awesome tracks. I actually love Black Hearts and Jaded Spades as well, I know that one is a little more controversial. But I thought it was great, especially the title track.
How about a metal mythos special for the great Martin Birch who has gone to the great recording studio in the sky. His credits are AMAZING. All Deep Purple albums from In Rock to Come Taste the Band. All the Dio era Rainbow albums and his two 80’s album with a Black Sabbath. All Whitesnake albums up to and including Slide it in. The three first and excellent Wishbone Ash albums and ALL Iron Maiden albums from Killers to Fear of the Dark. all classics. What a resume that guy had. The two best Blue oyster cult albums. RIP.
All of the albums I have heard produced by Martin Birch have given me more than my money’s worth. The man was impeccable and has turned out some of my favorite albums by some of my favorite bands. Proper tribute must be paid to him.
@@johnschou2172 he was an absolute tour de force in the studio. I own more Martin Birch produced albums than any other producer. Mutt Lange pfft, who’s he.
@@holydiver73 That he was. I think the only person who could come close to him was Michael Waegner.
The multi-vocalist idea for Seventh Star would have been awesome.
In For the Kill - Rob Halford
No Stranger to Love - Robert Plant
Seventh Star - Glenn Hughes
Danger Zone - Dio
Heart Like a Wheel - David Coverdale
That would be awesome, maybe better than Iommi's first solo album.
I remember when I bough Cross Purposes new and thought that I Witness sounded like Coverdale and wished that he could have sung with Black Sabbath.
Seventh Star is one of the greatest post-1975 Sabbath albums. It's juat sheer awesomeness
Black Sabbath-Eternal Idol
Risk-Daily Horror News
Pantera-Projects In The Jungle
Steeler- Undercover Animal
Black Sabbath-Headless Cross
Testament-The New Order
That would be my list.
So happy to see ICON in this video, I discovered them myself about 6 months ago, all 3 albums from them are good even if each one of them is different in tone.
There's also a "An even more perfect union" , which I also kinda liked, and would love to get it again (don't think I still have it). I remember liking "Gold bullets" very much :)
My fave is Night Of The Crime
I can't believe you acknowledged Icon. Night of the crime is one of my favorite albums. You're the man!
Leatherwolf - Street Ready(1989)
That album kills. Don’t know why they got lumped in with the glam stuff.
I totally agree. And their 1987 record is just as brilliant. Either album could make this list. Leatherwolf are extremely underrated.
Super glad you sunk your teeth into ICON and gave them a spot on here man! Great group of guys and they released 4 awesome albums in the 80s that should be well up there. Thank you!
And here I was thinking that I was the only one that even knew who Icon was. Criminally underrated.
I bought the first Icon album on cassette when it first came out.
"Criminally underrated" indeed, time to "Raise The Hammer". But seriously, I was a mixed tape machine as a kid, and most of them had Icon's "Raise The Hammer" on them. AOR metal at it's absolute finest.
Dude your the only thing go for RUclips and you have a true gift of the spoken word. Thank you brother
Please make a second part of underrated 80's metal albums, let's be real, it was the best decade and 6 ain't enough! Loved this one.
I genuinely feel like your channel helps keep this genre alive.
I was trolled by seeing Savatage in the thumbnail..
(Sigh) Me, too. Also, E-Z-O.
"When are they going to get to the Fireworks Factory...erm, I mean, Savatage!?"
Same. Savatage is so underrated their fans get trolled in underrated videos.
Power of the Night is better than all these others combined...
@@Lord-Elpus every Tage record with Criss is better than every record anywhere. Lol.
I thought you were a metalhead, but I didn't wanna make any assumptions. My respect for you just went through the roof. Rock on 🤘
Razor, even though I disagree with you on Pantera I respect the hell out of you for giving light to these underrated masterpieces! 80s metal rules!
Have to say, you've turned me on to Malice. This guys voice is awesome and I have been into "power metal" for quite a while. Great find and sad I missed them back in the day.
Seeing The Seventh Star put a smile on my face I goddamn love it.
YES
Me too it's a freaking great album. I would have picked Born Again (which is one of my all time favorite Sabbath albums of any era) but can agree that Seventh Star is far less well known and more underrated than BA.
I always thought Paul Di'anno's Battlezone (Fighting back) never got the love it deserved.
This!
Ratt is pretty good
I just stumbled on your channel and I'm loving it! Very entertaining.
Rumor has it Malice - License to Kill was rejected by United Artists for the main theme song of the Timothy Daulton's, James Bond vehicle License to Kill.
It would be easy to differentiate both, the bond title and song was licence spelled with a C and I highly doubt Bond fans like heavy metal except for maybe 20 of them myself included.
Thanks Mr Fist love your mythos segments man !!!
Flotsam and Jetsams first 2 albums are masterpieces!
Newsteds bass playing on the 1st album is possibly my fave thrash bass playing ever.
My 6 (with heavy emphasis on "underrated"):
1. Marshall Law- s/t (1989)
2. Tokyo Blade- Night of the Blade (1984)
3. Running Wild- Port Royal (1988)
4. Riot- Thundersteel (1988)
5. Blue Murder- s/t (1989)
6. Lillian Axe- s/t (1988)
*Sees the SODOM shirt patch.* Finally, my favorite band will be addressed!
My top 6 underrated 80's metal albums:
Fifth Angel- Fifth Angel (1986)
King Kobra- Ready to Strike (1985)
Sword- Metallized (1986)
Savatage- Sirens (1983)
Leatherwolf- Leatherwolf (1987)
Lizzy Borden- Visual Lies (1987)
Great list!
I'm so grateful to see the Power Metal album finally getting some recognition
...A trip down memory lane! Keep up the good work Razor! \m/
Babylon AD deserves a shout. Their self titled album (89) rules & hardly anyone remembers it
I fucking love that album. That album is up there with Appetite as one of the greatest metal debuts of all time.
Omg that album fucking slays. So good!!!
Holy shit! Are we twins? Well played, I’ve been listening to Malice since I got the album in the 80’s, it’s one of my “go to” albums on my iPad and listened to regularly. Killer tracks and quality metal. Same with Icon. Greetings from UK by the way.
Just a handful of underrated records
Virtue - We Stand to Fight
Wolf - Edge of the World
Anvil Bitch - Rise to Offend
Pantera - Power Metal (I know Razorfist already covered, but it's amazing)
Vardis - Quo Vardis
Wild Pussy - Mechanarchy EP
Satan - Court in the Act
Battleaxe - Burn this Town
I also agree with you that The Seventh Star is a phenomenal Black Sabbath album. I actually love all the 80's Black Sabbath albums like Born Again, The Seventh Star, The Eternal Idol, and especially The Headless Cross. All these albums should have been huge in my opinion.
I'm glad he brought up Pantera, I was always confused when Razor talked about them.
Pantera's earlier career was glam and rock metal, but they followed market demand for much heavier material in the 90's. I love Cowboys from Hell, which is their transition point from rock to heavy metal (the two different vibes mixed together worked very well), but I wasn't much into their later stuff. Can't remember what I heard in Vulgar Display of Power.
@@jocaerbannog9052 I was never into these guys I understood why people liked the band but i never could get into it . And this coming from someone that born and raised in Texas.
My take on early Pantera is that Phil Anselmo slowly insinuated his influences/faves like sweet Nawlins molasses into the more straight ahead Priesty glammish ( only ish never thought they went full glam,at least on record. Wardrobe is a different story tho)stew.Most obvious influence Exhorder. And did I mention Exhorder?
Cowboys from Hell has some good songs like Domination and Vulgar Display of Power is kinda eh. I haven't tried getting into their other albums, they just don't interest me.
I like the energy Pantera had with their nasty riffs, and Phil's aggressive voice. I didn't have interest for bands like Judas Priest or Iron Maiden because they were too high pitched, like power metal. Didn't sound intense enough. Pantera makes me feel like I can kick some ass when I listen.
Glenn Hughes is one of Rocks all-time greatest vocalists. Love his work on the 1985 Phenomena album. Joe Lynn Turner and Glenn are both monster singers. Great list of underrated bands! I'm definitely gonna get the Malice, Icon, and Madison albums. How about Warrior's Fighting For The Earth and Shy's New Birth albums. Always thought they were underrated gems. Thanks for the video.
It kills me that the 80's catalogue isnt ever acknowledged. Those albums aren't on spotify or much anywhere else and after watching this video, I now know why.
@ I think he's referring to Black Sabbath and/or Pantera disowning their 80s work
Cool that you included Madison, but I prefer Heavy Load, Gotham City, Mindless Sinner and a few others. But good 'ol 80s metal from Sweden. I actually had a website about Swedish 80s metal back in the day. hehe
Satan's "Court in the Act" is criminally underrated.
This.
Perfect album
Check out their comeback album from 2013 called Life Sentence.
@@SuperTugz yes! Wonderful album, sounded like it was written in 1985!
Top 6
Deadly Blessing - Ascend From The Cauldron
Thor - Recruits
Flatbacker - Esa
Banshee - Race Against Time
Minotaur - Power Of Darkness
Tyrant - Legions of The Dead
Such good shit.
RAZORFIST: "Here's a list of metal albums:
ME: "Oh, great. I got another shopping list."
Seriously, brother- you've never let me down. When I was a young kid, this music was new. And because my parents were in whacko church cult, I didn't get to experience this and many other normal things. Thanks for giving me back a piece of life I missed.
Great list! Learned a few great names here, thanks!
My 6 underrated 80’s metal albums
Shok Paris - Steel and Starlight
EZO debut
Kiss - Music from The Elder
The Seventh Star isn't so much fine wine as it is XXO brandy. Distilled essence of Earth & Black Sabbath in one album, with Glenn Hughes providing the pot still function. And then rested on the charred remains of the 80's. Also I get goose-bumps just from the opening riff of Danger Zone, what a heavy powerhouse.
I've been chomping at the bit for some new Mythos!
Dig the Megadeth reference.👍
Hey, Razor! I love your music vids. I don’t always agree with your opinions, but GODDAMN, man, I appreciate your enthusiasm. It’s infectious;)
I find it crazy that just 12 days before this video an interview with Stephen Clifford (Vocalist) & Dan Wexler (Guitar) two of the five original members of Icon was uploaded on a channel called 'full in bloom' were it mentioned that they were well into working on a new album with the original line up.
They said that they had 7 to 8 songs written already so I hope we get to hear them once more again soon.
YESSS!!
Finally somebody mentions ICON and who does it take???
You my friend!
I'm from Phoenix, AZ and moved to the Bay Area in 1983, but I remember hearing their name around town along with Surgical Steel. Then one day I was at a local record store in Pleasant Hill, CA and found their debut album and I picked it up purely for the album art and really didn't realize it was ICON from AZ until I read the back of the album cover. Holy shit I was greatly surprised and have been a mega fan of ICON ever since.
NIGHT OF THE CRIME IS SUCH A GOLDEN ALBUM, LOVE ICON
Thank you, Razorfist. After an awful day at work, this video made my day. Venom is one of my favorite bands ever.
All great choices, I’ve never heard of Madison until recently. One album I’d highly recommend that is severely underrated is Endless War by Realm. Very aggressive but yet technical thrash with a kick ass production backing it up. Also, Realm was Monte Conner’s first band he signed to Roadrunner records. Sepultura was signed shortly after Realm got signed. Realm’s second record Suiciety is another underrated gem.
Pantera's one of my favorite bands and I love all their albums, but I always like seeing people give props to the 80's albums, especially Power Metal. The whole album kicks ass, especially love the early thrash sound of the title track, Over and Out, Down Below, and Death Trap. Phil's actually said he'd like to reissue that album before, but I suppose if what you're saying about the Abbot's is true there'd probably be legal issues with estates/wills and what not if he and Rex just went ahead and reissued it.
Going off of either general dislike or being ignored, my top 6 favorite underrated 80's metal albums would probably go something like this:
1. Helstar - Burning Star
2. Soundgarden - Louder Than Love
3. Judas Priest - Point of Entry
4. Black Sabbath - Born Again
5. Pantera - Power Metal
6. Razor - Custom Killing
Pantera used to play a little dive called Joe's Garage that's not far from here back in their hair metal days. Good stuff. 🤣🤣🤣
Joe's Garage was the perfect underground metal bar. Played some gigs there myself. Good memories.
@@TheSshadow7 Hell yeah. What was your band's name?
At the time, we were Solitude. Had to change the name to Solitude Aeturnus. I left the band in '90. They went on to record 6-7 albums. Great doom metal. Some of the best ever imo.
We typically opened for Gammacide back then.
@@TheSshadow7 That must have been cool.
I pass the spot where Joe's once stood almost every week. I'd never be able to go back there now, even if it were still open. I'm too old and broken. Still, fun memories. None of mine are from the stage, but still.
This Channel remains the best, good reviews, honest and truthful 100%. Keep up the exellent work.
My music collection is fast becoming full of everything I'm introduced to via Metal Mythos.
Yes! More MM'S ! dude, you're reviews are always amazing. Cheers!
Although his musical tastes differ a lot from mine in some instances(I was more a Thrash guy growing up) , I still find the Metal Mythos series enjoyable and entertaining.
Totally agree, I disagree with a lot of his opinions, but respect his passion and research
Agreed - in the '80s I was more of a NWOBHM and "extreme metal" kind of guy, with Venom, Mercyful Fate, Possessed, Hellhammer, and the like getting more of my attention than anything else going into the thrash era, before Florida and European death metal caught my attention, and all the weird subgenres of extreme metal that followed the collapse of the metal era through the '90s (doom, gothic, 2nd-wave black, symphonic, avant-garde, folk metal, and that sort of thing) carried me through those dark times.
The sort of traditional/"hair" metal that makes up most of this list is almost all new to me, but I'm really getting a kick out of the Metal Mythos videos, and look forward to them. I've even added albums from The Ramones and Stryper to my collection thanks to these videos: it's great stuff I would normally never have given a second thought to....
I was into thrash metal, early death metal and yes....grunge. Razorfist and I would have a lot to disagree on but metal mythos is still fun as hell to watch.
Another great video, man!
Just a little correction - Pretty Maids is Danish. One of our oldest heavy metal bands here in DK, and they are still playing on.
I actually stood up and screamed in excitement when Seventh Star appeared. This album is perfect in everything it does and Razor, without you, I wouldn't have even picked it up so thank you for that. Star of India demo ablum is also great. Mob Rules I feel is a grossly underrated album as well as many people think it's just a "meh" song for the animated movie Heavy Metal. There is a lot of Dio's medieval power in the album and it's sadly over looked. "One day people will wonder where real music went, and they'll come back to this album." - Dio on Mob Rules
That was great Razor! Really enjoyed it.
If a Savatage record isn’t mentioned I Riot. Ahem, fire down under
Seeing Power Of The Night (along with E-Z-O and others) threw me a curve ball.
Savatge is the highest level of underrated...GREAT band...
Fire Down Under is overrated as far as Riot goes. Narita is their true masterpiece
Agreed
Love ezo but I think fire fire is the better album.