I recommend: Halo Infinite (Campaign Review)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Halo Infinite is always fun, but it is also awkward and compromised. Where Halo Infinite's multiplayer has charted a clear course for the future, the campaign continues to live in the shadow of those that came before it.
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00:00 Intro
05:05 Story
13:22 Missions
21:36 Open World
27:11 Infinite
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So you give Returnal a higher rating than Halo: Infinite???
“Strongly recommend”
“recommend” 🤨…. Halo available on gamepass and free to play mp…. How much you cough up for Returnal?
Maybe try finishing your reviews with a simple score out of 10 in the future.
@@thebhoy8561 Returnal is sort of unique and interesting compared to this unfinished online only micro transaction garbage from a company that's been screwing us over for over a decade now soo... Yeah my guy : )
@@thebhoy8561 returnal is a really good game lol
Holy shit. “This vehicle is no longer useful to me” has me fucking dying. Thank you for that.
I mean, he's not wrong. He really didn't want it anymore.
@@samzilla567 I mean if he even wanted it he couldn't have it so...
That shit was funny
HAHA yes that part was awesome :D talking about poor life decisions!
Had the Elite dying too.
Wow zero dislikes! Shillup really is a legend!
He’s only ShillUp when he’s covering Destiny. He’s SkillUp when he covers everything else lol
@@Scarecr0wn what is this black magic?...
@@MaxIronsThird you missed the joke mang
@@MaxIronsThird woosh
just download the chrome extension and u will see dislikes
Thing about the pilot wanting to go home is, he has a point. The chief always survives and wins, but those around him, not so much. Humans especially have a rough time of it.
Perfectly said. I felt like skill up was missing something. The only one of Chief's companions that live is the arbiter, a badass elite with an energy shield and the ability to cloak almost on demand. No humans survive. Not even Johnson. Sure he was badass and an amazing character, but the thought that chief was a winning machine and he was practically invincible while with Chief cost him his life eventually. I think the pilot is going to be a voice of reason. Just a human who wants to survive to attempt a somewhat normal life again. Hell if Chief had just got his ass wooped and I was abandoned in space for months I know I wouldn't trust Chief. I would sure be acting like the pilot and would be nervous as hell and want to live. I'm tired of all the marines just saying "You got it Chief." I'm glad the pilot wasn't another marine who just said yes and stood back while Chief did his thing.
Comparing the pilot to Johnson is definitely unfair, too. Johnson was an experienced leader and a Spartan I. The pilot is just one of many pilots. One who had been adrift for some time before finding Chief and had just witnessed the UNSC get beaten, despite it's many advancements since the Cov war.
Yeah, but remember how marines were all excited and high-spirit when chief show up in previous halo games? Even when they are facing certain death? Halo was supposed to be cartoonish power fantasy, that why i have no problem with the graphic issue when the 2020 demo first came out. But i guess time has changed, it is all about realistic human emotion nowadays.
Seems like your review is mixed. You hated the game but you liked it.
I only beat Halo 1 yesterday and uh…..yeah. Yeah he has a reason to be terrified
I actually really liked the pilot. I thought of him as a scared man with a family whom I had to protect. I could certainly see how people would think he's annoying though.
I liked the Weapon when she is mad during boss fight against the Boss Robot. She talks down to Chief: "Did you hear me?, He''s.... Got..... Friends!" That was pretty funny.
@@aarone1981 Yeah, I really liked her too. Biggest complaint I have otherwise about her is they played her you should go to the main quest voice lines while you are having fun exploring way too often. They could probably fix that in an update though.
After he stopped complaining I really liked the guy. He just needed a good talk.
@@Mediados agreed. The last scene with him in the game was especially great too.
I also liked the pilot. I think the one scene where he freaked out was a bit melodramatic and we should have a bit more background to relate
But otherwise he was ok
Weapon AI I thought was amazing (maybe cause I loved Cortana) she was innocent and funny at the same time and grew after each mission
The real Halo set piece is the Scorpions we brought along the way
Godammit, you make me spit out my coffee.
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Garbage so no thanks. Get out dude.
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@@TheREALHugo4 I don't think anyone ever asked for your wrong opinion.
Out of all the reviewers who upload reviews the min embargo’s lift, you’re my go to guy 🤝
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Same. Shillup makes great Reviews
he's the only one who gave an actual honest review that it's just a generic story with very generic open world lol. Like this is all I needed to hear to save my money. Mint said he literally cried during the story, like what?
For me personally:
1. Digital Foundry for the tech
2. Ggman if he has review available
3. SkillUp otherwise
I really enjoyed the story and combat. I thinks it’s the best Halo experience since Reach. As for the open world, I was mostly onboard for it. I think they kept it the right size and gave you enough options to approach in different and fun ways. My only complaint is that the mountain theme needed to broken up with some other biomes.
I think when they add more Story Campian we will get just that.
@@AnimeAmvStar yeah. it feels like a sort of chapter 1.
@@AnimeAmvStar Didn't age well
The most broken set up is a razorback, 3 marines with arcane sentinel beam, and 2 with the super skewer... Absolutely melts EVERYTHING and you're too fast and beefy to to destroy.
Honestly, I'll take a tight/well made story over "open world" anyday.
I hear you but I do like how the sandbox has been expanded upon. Creating the crazy set piece moments yourself sounds amazing to me, but to each their own.
@@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos If you're creating them yourself they're not set pieces. And Halo 1 to 3 had enough player-driven moments of hilarity, drama or action, without losing its tight story.
@@NicholasBrakespear Yeah, but it still great to have moments made by yourself, as your own MasterChef. But yeah, the less amount of campaign moments does upsets me, especially for a 69 dollar campaign only game.
@@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos in other word 343 is lazy and uncreative and they just want to follow what ubisoft did while claiming '' giving player more freedom ''
So what happens after the tight well told story has ended you have played the game for the 5th time and there is nothing else to do?
looking on the other side of the mirror there is a player who took the less well told story that is playing the latest multiplayer Halo with his mate and running the latest DLC as its open world?
Oh, I get your point - you have no mates?
As someone who plays Halo for the story, this has definitely tempered my expectations. Thanks for the thorough, well written, and thoughtful review.
Did we expect anything else? 343 never understood halo, never.
@@johngalt7713 Yeah, it really isn't that surprising but I think a lot of people (myself somewhat included) thought they were gonna put in the work to step it up a notch this time around
@@johngalt7713 Hopefully now Joe Staten came back we are going to get better writing.
@@johngalt7713 i mean halo wars 2 had a good campaign story. Don't know who wrote that though
Some of his story criticisms were bad. I saw some of the leaked campaign story cutscenes and they were enough to make me confused on what the hell Skillup is talking about in terms of the Pilot getting annoying even with Chief, when it's understandable because guess what they literally told us the UNSC lost and in the opening cutscene of the game Chief gets manhandled hard, so wth is SkillUp on about Chief being this unstoppable God? XD
I have the opposite reaction to the story.
I loved the characters, the villain was good enough but I loved The Pilot and The Weapon. The dynamic between them was great and I found the plot very engaging.
The ending did make me tear up a little, especially Cortana's parts.
I thought the story was horrible. Go watch a halo 2 cutscene. You'll see.
@@Ziggy695 not as good but much better then halo 4 and 5 !!
@@whitedragon1204 damn this pathetic try of a story made me miss Halo 5 story... this feels just so rushed and not finished story. And when something makes you miss Halo 5 story, things are really fucked up.
Gameplay is amazing and I liked a lot how the game looks like.
@@Ziggy695 I felt this game emulates CE and to that end it meets its goal in terms of story, while adding background to the villains and some more emotional weight.
@@royshavrick Thats a good point. I still think the first games story is so much more simple and yet better than this, although the villains and gameplay in infinite are pretty sweet.
"Promise me chief, before the end of this you'll find out which one of us is a machine."
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"We all fail, we all make mistakes. It's what makes us human."
343 may struggle but damn this made me feel
My favorite scene so far is Griffin’s death. That scene was so fucking good
I really like the perspective of, “we don’t need a masterpiece; we just want a good Halo game.” Over the past 6 years I saw so much discourse in the Halo community about whether this game would bring back the fever pitch of hype that it got in the 2000s, and the insinuation I got from that was if Halo didn’t make a cataclysmic cultural impact like the old games did, then this installment would have failed. I think Halo infinite is exactly what it needs to be: a good Halo game. That’s all I wanted from it, and from the looks of things, that’s what it is :)
Halo Reach had the best campaign
@@Pete-vz5uj no fr
@@Pete-vz5uj Halo reach might just be my favorite halo game in general
I get what you’re saying but still, that’s a pretty sad perspective to adopt. Years in development for a Halo game with a great sandbox but not much else. Infinite will come near the bottom of people’s lists when talking about their favourite Halo games and that’s honestly just kinda lame. A hugely limited multiplayer with deplorable micro transactions and a repetitive single player with a weak narrative. If you’re satisfied with that then that’s fine. I definitely won’t be buying this game, if everyone does then why would 343 ever try to aim higher?
@@samuelabbottchannel Umm... people would buy it because it's a good game? Buying the game doesn't mean there won't be enough criticism to have 343 make it even better
I would have rather had a series of diverse maps with unique level designs. Going open world makes everything feel constrained. Halo 2 felt huge travelling to so many places but with infinite I can't see how one map is going to give me that sense of epic scale halo was known for.
Even with the first game, you had human and covenant ships (x2), forerunner structures, a desert setting, woods setting, an island, a swamp, a nuclear waste area, and a snowy setting. Even if there were repeats, you remember those levels. Sounds like there aren't any stand-out spots in Infinite and that disappoints me more than lack of set pieces
The game is supposed to last a decade though so I'm sure there's going to be more variety with time
That is why you should try it out first.
@@matthewdopler8997 I'm certain I'm going to love the game based off what reviews have said, no doubt. I'll play the hell out of it. Halo is Halo
So would have most of us. Open world is slowly killing many game series and tight stories just to make way for "player freedom" sandboxes.
@@brightenblack207 I think the day and night cycle will help with the variety. There's still the underbelly of the Halo ring that's pretty cool and new for the franchise. While it may not have the variety of the old, at least it's totally new in concept if that makes sense
I personally loved the characters in the story. There were moments that were overly dramatic but I really like how they made the pilot. He's only human and can act irrational but given time can adjust to his new environment. The new AI is similar but also tries so hard to become closer with chief, at least to the point he trusts her. The characters evolve which is nice, chief especially as he's been the same unreadable wall since CE
All youve said is meaningless platitudes. "The human is human so acts like a human".
Yeah I really liked the Pilot. His "oh man this is crazy we're gonna die" stuff just felt like it was creating a contrast between what humans are normally like, and what chief is like. And, like this trope goes, you prove to him that you can overcome the odds, and he does let up on the freaking out. I felt like SkillUp kinda overexaggerated how annoying the Pilot actually is, but that's his opinion I guess.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 yeah, he's not gun-ho about anything nor is he an unreliable coward. They struck a good balance with him in the face of despair.
Any other worthless comments you have to offer?
@@ChezzyKnytt I agree. Trying to put yourself in the shoes of the pilot and then playing through infinite will make his reactions seem more organic
Halo 4 and anything made after were trash
I feel like you could also argue that Bungie's original "design" of chief as an inexpressive peerless warrior also hurts 343's ability to transform him. There's not a whole lot of room to work with. Although the stories of the original trilogy were nuanced, they weren't nuanced because of chief. He's always done his job, and just happens to be very good at it. No more, no less. Even when he made the risky decision to pursue Cortana and the flood-infested warship, the defense of mankind and Earth was still his central concern. The evolution, split and fall of the covenant provided factional politics, and the Arbiter provided a story of personal transformation. Chief has never personally undergone a fundamental transformation as a character.
He’s never needed to. You don’t play CE, 2, and 3 and then say “wow Chief is flawed and needs an arc”. In my opinion we never should have played as him after 3, at least for another trilogy. His return should have been triumphant fanfare. Simple, but it’s what Halo did best
This. This is why I like Skill Up. He has this magical ability to say "No, this isn't what I wanted." out of the narative. But then still recognize that that could be subjective and he should recommend the game for everything else. Most impressive.
It’s why I transitioned to him from Yongyea.
Yes, his ability to fence-sit for 343's benefit is remarkable...
@@capefear56. He'd criticized them left and right. The fuck are you smoking?
@@Garbageman28 you must have a good surgeon
@@dragonbornexpress5650 Do you understand what "fence-sitting" is? It's simultaneously voicing support for two opposing camps, which he does. The fact that he criticizes them in one breath and makes excuses for them in another, then says "it's up to the player to decide if they think it's worth it!" is literally fence-sitting. I haven't seen a single major RUclipsr have the balls to actually straight up say "this sucks ass in its current state and I encourage you not to buy until 343 improves it." yet this is a recurring theme within the community. I wonder why...
When I was younger playing corridor shooters/RPGs, I would regularly think "this would be so much cooler as an open world game!" After numerous franchises have gone that route with mediocre results, I can honestly say that my younger self was wrong. Building an open world takes way too much focus away from the things that matter (story, moment-to-moment gameplay, pacing, etc.) to make it worth the effort. I want my corridor shooters back!
doom eternal
Or games like dishonored. Big levels, still very detailed corridors.
I really miss level based games. Halo was one of the better games to do it, Bioshock was a really good example of that too. Especially when levels are designed really well and play/look and feel differently from each other. Like the other guy said though, Dishonored is a very good with the missions and levels. ESPECIALLY Dishonored 2! If you haven’t played them yet you need to JUST do you can experience the sequel. It’s really fcking good. Feels a lot like Bioshock as well if your into that
amen.....
Yup. Watching the gameplay doesn't excite me. I also don't like the grapple hook, because there is no thought or challenge on how to get somewhere.
I really appreciate it when a reviewer just sits down and says “This game has noticeable flaws but I enjoyed it”
A great, in depth, and thoughtful review that I couldn't be happier to disagree with. Some of the critiques of Infinites repetitive geography have merit but personally I loved the story and the characters that brought it to life. I feel like this is a perfect blend of 4/5's dense, emotional narratives and the classic Bungie stripped back 1-liner extravaganzas. Chief shows real depth even when he's speechless. There's so much emotion conveyed through body language and subtle lines here and there. I also thought the Weapon provided much needed levity to counter Chiefs baggage. Fair play on the villains I suppose but Halo has never been about 1 big baddie with a ton of complexities. Even the Prophets were fairly 1 dimensional megalomaniacs and that never detracted from my enjoyment of the games.
But I can't be mad at opinions so clearly and thoughtfully put to video. But to everyone else, the game is fucking phenomenal and generally the story is very well regarded, make up your own mind! 😀
After playing Through twice, I can 100% disagree with shillups review as well. Only thing I agree with is with the main villain basically is a Saturday morning cartoon villain.
Yeah I just finished the game and all there is to do is to find a few audio logs and its 100% and I'm totally with you guys on this..
100% agree with everything except the repetitive areas. They could have done so much more with them, especially indoor areas.
When it comes to the characters though people really do be expecting nothing but Chief being badass and everyone else praising his deeds at his feet, which admittedly every UNSC soldier you rescue does. So when you get someone who rightfully calls him out on his track record of getting pretty much anyone who's ever associated with him killed it's suddenly them whining for no reason and being annoying.
Master Chief sounds old, or bored the whole time. There is no energy in his voice or even any anger from all the other spartans being killed. You think he'd want revenge or something. I have to say that I didn't really enjoy the voice acting in this game.
@@cargorunner9960 Not trying to be a shill, but it's been pretty established through the more recent games than Spartan II's (Chief) are pretty much emotionless sociopaths that are so traumatized from childhood that they're barely keeping it together. Chief is unique in that he did keep it together, and he does show genuine empathy. However his character has never been overly expressive. He's stoic, composed, and yeah I guess you can say boring. But that's his character. Not the fault of any actor involved
I really, really miss structured, mission-based corridor shooters. There's a big lack in that area. Sad that Halo: Infinite went the open world route.
I recommend Guardians of The Galaxy!
@@FlacoChevere. fuck yeah!
its a double edged sword having your marketing point being "open world game"
Halo was suppose to be open world even for CE. It went closed corridor and linear because of Microsoft at the time and timeframe/ hardware.
Also this is chapter 1. There’s more campaign coming. Or did you think the halo for next 10 years is just what you get in 2 days?
@@F0xSH0X1 Judging by this, I don't want more campaign lol
Ah, 6:30 shows how little attention you gave the story. He's known as Echo-216 through out the game. Until the end where he gives chief and Weapon his name
Jonson is also a soldier, who has training. He know what cheif can and can't do.
The lack of biome diversity is astoundingly disappointing. BUT- what is in the game looks extremely well crafted.
It truly is. I don't know why this was decided, but it was clearly one that was made early on. So there must be a reason. Of all the things Halo Infinite could disappoint me with, it's this one. I know some story points that I shouldn't... The pieces I *have* seen have left me very satisfied with the direction of the story, particularly with why the Banished and Cortana have beef with each other (that's all I'm gonna say). So story isn't something I'm going to be even slightly dissatisfied with. But the biome... I live nearby where The Act Man does, and I agree with his recent assessment: if I wanted to get more of the Pacific Northwest, I need only go outside. The lack of setpieces strongly-discourages me and makes me wonder how much the novelty of that "self-storytelling" is going to last. The setpieces have always been spectacular in Halo, whether it's inside a planet-sized anus called High Charity, floating across a lake on Aztec-like hover trams, or in a vast desert with the Milky Way in the distance... Climbing the BADASS Banished Scarabs to disable them, participating in intense aerial dogfights, and the feeling of fighting an actual *war* against the Banished is a great idea, and it's a real shame we don't get to have that feeling.
@@QrazyQuarian Could'nt agree more brotha
This perfectly shows the advantages that linear game design has over open worlds. Memorable set pieces, unique biomes, tailored atmosphere, being able to tell a fast paced story and much more.
Bigger does not mean better.
nah it can mean better, but not in halo. Try ghost of tsushima.
@@michaelblue4619 I do not agree with that.
What I am trying to say is that linearity and open worlds are different concepts, with different strengths and weaknesses.
There are games that manage to incorporate elements of both design philosophies. But most game are made on a budget, and sometimes it's better to do what you know best, rather than shoot for the stars and run out of budget when you're halfway there.
@@KaiSchSp Yes but this is Halo. It's budget should be: yes. Ghost of tsushima is an example of a far more accomplished open world that gives you everything you want.
Bigger can mean better. Look at gta 5 story and rd2. Rockstar has done linear before, but when they went big, it was an amazing experience. Sure it's different type of game but when you say bigger does not mean better it is very subjective. In terms of accolades and reviews of great story telling it can be done based on units sold and review feedback positivity on success. I believe thay is a good marker as evidence in my opinion for being bigger is better.
@@diocub4022 I don't really get what you're saying. Yeah, GTA 5 and RDR2 are good, big games. And Rockstar Studios may really be better at developing large scale open world type games.
None of that leads me to the conclusion that bigger is better. By that logic GTA5 would be a better game if you copy pasted all the missions 3 times and scaled up the map by 200%. "Big" alone achieves nothing.
The 1v1 brute champion is not a lame idea, they actually did it in Halo 3.
After you get to the arc you have to turn off some shield generators. One of these has a round room lined with brutes with a chieftain in the middle challenging you. If you don't hurt or touch any of the others you can 1v1 the chieftain and have a great time. Works in co-op too. Your boys can line the room with the lesser brutes and watch with them.
I know exactly what part this is, and I think I might have done that unintentionally to get the the gravity hammer.
I remember playing CE's "halo" mission as a kid and thinking to myself "my dream halo game is this mission, but way bigger"
343 absolutely made that dream come true with Infinite. I got my gripes, but they are vastly overshadowed by the sheer joy I had stomping around and getting immersed in zeta halo.
my whole experience playing the game.
literally me
Easily the best Halo Infinite review I’ve seen. I’ll get this game and sure I’ll love playing it. But your detailed, honest, nuanced review has given me clear expectations about what I will, and won’t, get. Thanks!
2021, nearly 2022...you put still a lot of collectibles, hidden secrets, challenges in your game, which is still ok and then you made the decision you can't replay the story missions...WTF!?! Should be patched asap....
there is no such patch for replayable mission well i do think new game+ is possible as DLC if they're not available at release
2021 was a letdown tbh. 2022 will be better
@@TheREALHugo4 Can you stop jinxing the timeline so early in december?!!
@@rattango9819 This year is done, dude so stop it.
@@TheREALHugo4 nooooooooo
If the story is left on a cliff hanger and there is still a “threat” I really hope the DLC with flood, red team, atriox, or whatever it is will fix these issues. This video definitely humbled me and I’m not sure I’m as excited as I was
He deal is his negatives are other reviewers positives, specifically with the characters. This sounds pretty subjective.
343 confirm they will support halo infinite for 10 year but haven't explained is it only multiplayer or including the campaign if both we can expect expansions/big dlc
Very rarely do I completely agree with ShillUp - make your own decisions.
@@themightyempire3511 I do truely think there were reviewers incapable of being neutral and subjective when it came to this game. Ryan mcafrey of ign has literally been gushing week at the knees for this game for 2 years he was never going to say a bad thing about it at all.
It's worth remembering that reviews are completely subjective. You may or may not agree with his points. Things that disappointed him you may not even consider. Reviews can be helpful but don't let them taint or alter your view of something, especially before you've actually played it.
As a original Halo player - I have been overjoyed and disappointed as the franchise aged. Not sure this brings me back. Thanks for the excellent review/preview.
The campaign might, but the micro-transaction focused multiplayer surely wont.
Same. Perhaps when they actually finish the game in like a year or 2 from now lolz. Then maybe it will be worth getting for like 5 bucks to mess around in for a day or so until you move onto a obviously MUCH better game. That's my plan... Or I just wont play this trash lol. The latter is more likely...
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Cope harder fanboy
BUNGIE no longer being there= Halo is MID
I watched this review before I played the game and it made me nervous about the story. Now after I’ve played it myself I have to say… wtf are you talking about with the story? That shit was good. It was a solid story and it had corrected the path of the narrative moving forward and away from halo 5. I’m unbelievably excited for the future of halo agin. I never found the pilot annoying. In fact I found him quit relatable. And you taking about the plot point that never gets resolved. Chiefs goal is to stop the banished from what THEY are doing on the ring. As in repairing it and potentially using it as leverage or as a weapon. As long as he does that he has completed HIS mission. That whole plot point IS for the future halo games but it never was the main focus and I never felt that it was presented as such in the game. Plus halo is no stranger to cliff hanger or unresolved plot lines being saved for later. This is hands down the best thing 343 has put out gameplay and narrative wise.
Exactly, the story defintley brought back the mystique of the old Halo games. Not everything has to be explained and showed off the bat and explained all in one game. That was one of the biggest weaknesses with Halo 4, introducing the big bad didact and then instantly killing him like nothing.
Yea but considering how bad halo 5 was written, even a chimp could've improved upon its story
The story in infinite isn't as bad as it is just generic
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It was a waste of a story. It was a Cortana + Chief story AGAIN for the third (arguably fourth) game in a row, with everything else pushed to the wayside. They're wasting the universe, with barely any effort put into the events and worldbuilding that Halo has expertly handled before. This focus on drama and character-driven stories is what I personally hate, and Halo has never felt compelling ever since the stories have relied on their weak characters as a primary plot point. How would the Banished use the ring to destroy Humanity? No answer. Why are the Endless dangerous and 'worse than the Flood?' No answer. What happened to the Infinity and Cortana? Their fate is off screen and we, the players, learn important details that the Chief ALREADY KNOWS near the end of the story. The drama between the Chief and the Weapon is cheesy and weak. The most compelling plot point was revealed near the end of the game, when it should have been revealed at the start to set the tone and motivation of the villains. Every cutscene is a close-up of a character's face, or a hologram. The open-world activities have no impact on the story, and all the encounters feel like cheaper versions of what we had before which is SUPER disappointing considering the enemy AI and design are some of the best of the series. The excellent music is cheapened by conforming to the weak open-world encounters. Some people (like me) haven't even heard the new Under Cover or Through the Trees in the game (and I've done EVERY SINGLE activity possible). The only praise I can give to the game's story is that I can HOPE that the Cortana plot line is finally over with and we can move on to something more compelling without the weak character-drama driving the narrative. With my luck though, the next game/dlc will be another single-biome open world with only Forerunner structures and the story will be about the Weapon + Chief's relationship. And the pilot'll be there too!
The Halo campaigns deserve better writing and they need to ditch the 'pseudo open-world' gimmick as we lost more than we gained because of it (and I'm betting the dev team would breathe a collective sigh of relief too). Here's hoping Joe Staten can turn things around, but I am extremely skeptical as NONE of 343i's games has had a compelling story (and that absolutely includes 4 for many of the reasons I dislike Infinite).
I reckon your examples of random encounters are actually pretty good, a grunt fight club would be great.
A good variety of random encounters really help to make an open world feel more alive.
Even more-so if those encounters are tailored to change a bit based off your actions in-game.
I remember playing halo 3 as a kid and being absolutely amazed by the end of H3, the warthog drive will forever be one of my top 5 best moments in video games hands down, holy fuck that game is a thrill ride
I always preferred the Warthog escape at the end of Halo CE. 3 felt like an homage to it while trying to make it more difficult, which for me just made it more frustrating.
There won’t be anything like that in this game
@@mitchellp7739 still looking forward to play it
@@avengerx2000 I am too but I am still disappointed with how average it’s looking like it will be. The days of Halo 3 and Reach will likely never return
Honestly i always thought ce and 2 had better campaigns. 3 just feels like 2s wrap up arc. Crows nest, Floodgate and Cortana aren't great missions and even the last one is just climb a tower, kill guilty spark and drive away. Never really understood why people are so obsessed with 3 in comparison to the others.
"it all looks the same" and "they used the same structure" are the biggest bummers for me. That does sound boring and disappointing, but I'm happy that it still sounds fun despite those negatives. I hope they add more, or build on it in the future.
I deffo understand the argument to tone down on the repetitiveness, and invest more on the characters & story. (At least based on what you've shown, I can see a good argument for that)
I don't understand why they didn't add a layer of snow in one location, or make another a desert. Maybe make on more jungle/swamp. They've been at this for nearly 7 years and they only have 1 palette of assets? Realistically, how hard would it have been for them to add snow? They could've even mirrored H1, something. This just looks like the Pacific Northwest.
@@JZStudiosonline they worked for 3 years on the game not 7 thats a common misconception
@@JZStudiosonline That's what happens when you focus on high fidelity and realism, suddenly adding different types of trees and biomes becomes harder when they have to be high quality realistic models. I honestly think the game looks uninspired af, you look at the terrain from high up and it's just a bunch of randomly placed rocks next to unrealistically shiny metal (no dirt, no scratches, no erosion, etc.) and the same size trees copy pasted everywhere. 343i's devs don't have a single creative bone in their bodies.
@@JZStudiosonline Because they are lazy.Horizon zero dawn is an open world game and it have many different locations/ environment.
@@snark567 That's not true at all.
This is a very honest, open and accurate review based on his perspective. This is why SkillUp is a great follow
Skill up: I don't like 90% of the things in this game
Also Skill up: I recommend this game
Isn't it the same in halo infinites multi-player the fan base hates 90 % of the things about the game. But despite that still recommend it. It's just halo now..
@@moovudu4822 So, skins are 90% of Halo's multiplayer?
@@MaxIronsThird lol there's so much worse parts of Infinite MP than just the poorly made coatings, like no cross core customization, lottery playlists, legit the same amount of maps as Halo CE at launch when every Halo had way more to offer, and a dogshit progression system that encourages people to not play the objectives or just play with bots to finish the challenges faster. It's all a mess, and the gameplay can only carry it for so long. Its population is dropping off fast already lol Six years and they can't even add a slayer playlist, what a joke
@@MaxIronsThird no. But as of now we are complaining about the monetary system, the customization, the Playlists, and the hackers as the big four. But aside of that we as a community have also complained about the graphics (typically newer fans) certain modes, some guns even. Yet despite all of that, despite all the criticism around the game we still recommend it
@@semperk1482 yep. Although it's very obvious halo infinite is going to be one of those games like halo mcc it has a rough start then it will slowly become a better game. I'm already expecting the game to die by the 6 month mark. Then get revived due to forge both the campaign and multi-player have stuff for it in the future such as the more then one campaign basically dlc for halo. Which might fix the campaign story and lack of Biomes. While there is also whole maps, modes, and even guns being made we aren't seeing the full halo gun list. As well as most likely in the future. A lot of this stuff is going to be fixed. It's just sad that we have to wait 6-9 months to get to that point. And I'm fully prepared for the game to die off early January until then due to how bad the background is around it right now. Hopefully the campaign is good enough to last us to February. But that was the hope for the three months. Now that it's 6 months for co op. I don't think halo infinite will be very good for very long due to just how fast we are getting burnt out
The lack of storytelling through level design and enemy encounters is really disappointing. It would be amazing if outposts needed supply, some local enemies had the task of gathering it far way, and you could study their schedule to then disrupt their supply chain by attacking them or whatnot.
That said, at least the freedom to approach missions is something to be glad about.
Freedom of approach just means they don't have to actually design the levels
@@nenadmilovanovic5271, that doesn't make sense. One thing doesn't exclude the other, nor freedom makes level design unnecessary. Level design and storytelling by level design are different things.
Nah, what?? That's the main thing 343i said they would focus on. Storytelling through the levels. Idk man, ill just wait and play it for myself
@@rogercls I am saying game designers won't design levels, they just use open world as an excuse. Look at every Ubisoft game from the last 5 years.
@@nenadmilovanovic5271 While I do wholeheartedly agree that by making players "create their own set-pieces" it means less care and attention is given to curating an experience through the level designs; I also would argue that the open world formula in Far Cry and older Assassin's Creed games is so solid that they don't need to put crazy amounts of work into the story missions, and still, I can think of more than a few Ubisoft story missions that were incredible.
The problem is when the developer treats story content like the optional objectives, and not the driving force that dictates the experience, the environment and the pacing. Which it seems like Halo Infinite has dropped the ball with.
After that cliffhanger and six years without Halo, the one thing I wanted from Infinite is a satisfying story. Looks like I'll have to be content with stellar gameplay
Lol you automatically think the story is shit just cause this youtuber said so 😂
@@xUseTheForks it is shit always has been a shit story to avg with really good gameplay and CO-OP CAMPAIGNS
I would have NEVER played any halo CAMPAIGNS if I could not sit down with my friends and play through on hard and have a ball..... who plays halo for the shit story? Fanboys that I'd all.
@@xUseTheForks still going to play it bro. Nothing wrong with keeping your expectations in check.
@@xUseTheForks ALSO I don't think the story is shit, but it sounds like it's not satisfyingly concluded. Go touch grass
@@kameronbelcher 😂 says the person that believes the story isn't gonna be good just cause skillup doesn't like it lol think you need to touch some grass
As always an honest, knowledgeable, and comprehensible review. Even find myself watching reviews for games I prob won’t ever play. Keep up the great content!
Love how you get right to the point here, SkillUp. No bullshit, no padding... just your opinion on what looks to be a great if not amazing entry in one of my all time faves. Still can't wait to play it for myself!
Yea recently i started to like SHILL-UP who doesn't SHILL lol ~
The villian feels like ~ Holo-Twitter bot user who just want to provoke attention and throw twitter tantrum.. but never even in my human-self i felt threatened by the guy who only brags about himself and does that borderlands 3 villians things they do.
Shill-up* please don't misspell our Lord and Savior's name
Amazing is a bit of a stretch with all the negatives, but it looks like a bit of dumb fun with the good combat. Reminds me of doom eternal. I gave zero shits about the story but the gameplay is awesome.
Nothing can beat Halo 2's Storybuilding , politics , Narrative and CHARACTERS.
This definitely feels like a "I Do not recommend" review in a trojan horse lmaoo
Seems like it really depends on what you're looking for in this campaign.
If you just want a game - something that plays well mechanically and the rest is whatever to you - Then this is a recommendation.
If you want a _Halo_ game - something that actually recaptures the good parts of the original trilogy and does them justice in the story - Then it's a recommendation against.
@@BackwardsPancake if you just want something that plays well........you would play multiplayer....
i was thinking the very same thing. He spent most of the time destroying the characters and story. I'm getting the same vibes. Need to change that thumbnail title. The compliments are about 10 seconds and then he goes right back destroying it. A back-handed compliment of a video if I every seen one. Honestly this is the first review I've seen where they didn't like the campaign.
Was it? "I still had fun even though it was repetitive bc the sandbox was phenomenal"
To be clear, no one having THAT much fun is not going to recommend that game.
yikes dude, there are dumb takes, but then there's yours.. LOL.
Not really, but hey it's the internet, you can't not be dramatic
Finished Infinite about a week ago, and I’ve never disagreed with Ralph before. But this game… this game is way better than he lets you think.
When Under the Mayo and Skillup BOTH agree on something, then I know something's up.
What I'm getting is good gameplay trapped in a half-baked open world map/game. Plot is mixed
I'm quite gutted about the story. I also didn't think 343 had the ability to tell a well rounded story with compelling characters but I was hoping to be surprised here. I think I wanted something similar to the God of War situation, where they add more character to a preexisting archetype. Ah well, I guess the glory days of the master chief will stay in the past. Still looking forward to playing this though. Hire better writers next time 343. Thanks for the review, awesome as always.
His story criticisms were bad man like I am confused on wth he's talking about with Chief being unstoppable and never losing when the first thing we see is Chief being manhandled XD
@@imixupwords5340 he obviously doesn’t know the lore, his reviews are terrible which is why I try to avoid his channel
/facepalm
@@Jaykurosakii why are you here then?
Oops, salty fanboys in the comments.
"Does 343 know where to take its mission design, story, characters or world?
-No"
That probably was all I needed to know for making a decision, thank you for putting it upfront.
Halo 4/5 were extremly underwhelming, especially in its mission design.
I don't think i would be able to push myself through another drab 343 Halo campaign, especially if its open world now
Same. Halo 4 left me dissatisfied. H5 made me pull my head out of my ass. And halo infinite made me release its time to grow up and let this new generation have halo. Cause I just can’t recognize it anymore.
HiddenXPeria completely disagrees with SkillUp, and he was just as skeptical about the campaign. Sooooo yeah.
@@seroccoprime2774 and it could be good. Who knows. But if it’s where I want it to be then I’m sure the Unanimous cries of joy from the community, and the long lost fanboys returning will signal my return. If not it will fall by the wayside. And the player base will drop off like every other 343 title. The difference is. I’m not paying my money to find out this time. Especially after 5
@@Spabsa just game pass it man why are being so dramatic lol
I really appreciate the character breakdowns in relationship to MC and how they are used to advance the narrative. Honestly felt like I was back in my high school English class.
“Destiny has a good story” that mess of a story where every question answered makes 2 more pop up is good!?
The story over the last 2 years or so has been great
@@erichall090909 ok then explain what the 9 is
@@relaxedberserker4156 they’re not supposed to be fully known the same way there are still many unknown things about Oni in Halo, especially if you only play the games.
Destiny has a good story.... they just choose not to tell it in game
@@burningphoenix6679 difference is oni stuff we don’t know about is just fucked up human experimentations while the nine is some weirdo shit that doesn’t make any sense
Good review fella. It's where I thought it would land, and I'm fine with that this time round.
Really hope someone at 343 sees this review and they take some of this to heart. They've got something good here, it just needs a few more passes on the open world, environmental diversity, and maybe some different writers and voice direction.
First Halo since Reach I've been excited to play, so I'm still looking forward to this.
343 doesnt make halo, its a bunch of suits in upper management. This game was mostly made by 3rd party studios 6 to be exact. They even have stolen fan art in one of the maps.
The Campaign sounds like it will benefit VERY much from the co-op update next year (which is true for many open-world games). So it's a wait for updates and sale for me. Thanks for the review.
Sanest take I've seen. Well done.
Just beat it on heroic - I gotta be honest Ralph, I fucking loved it. I actually now think the experience would be a bit worse with a teammate, not gonna lie.
It really shows how different people's tastes can be. I think 343 did a great job with the characters. "The Weapon" actually has a lot of personality, even down to a little hair lip quirk. It's hard to highlight the great character development she goes through without spoiling but yeah, hard disagree.
With the pilot I can sort of see where you're coming from. But like others have said, you're not really being fair. He's just a human, who was stranded in space for 6 months wondering when he was going to die. He finally encounters what might as well be a God in the form of Master Chief for first contact...how the hell is he going to relate to him? He's not even a soldier. He's a volunteer engineer who stole a pelican to run away because he has exactly 0 combat ability. He just wants to go home, understandably so. Unlike the Chief who is at home fighting an entire army, a couple grunts might be enough to take out the pilot. It might be annoying to hear him complain, but it's understandable and realistic. It would be way worse if he was competing with the chief on who is more badass.
Also, about how the chief sounds older, well - that's because he is older. Because of you know, that time thing. He is 49 at the start of Infinite. I think Downes is 71. Again, subjective, but Chief sounds great once again.
Agree, I am about 50% through the campaign and I really like the Weapon. The pilot is a bit annoying but you start the game seeing him just want to go home so it is no surprise that he is desperate to do just that.
Yikes
@@amaterasu2320 what's yikes
what is the lip thing people keep bringing up about the weapon, i don't get it
@@flyingdoggo9887 she has this little hair lip thing where she raises the corner of her mouth
I had 0% investment or interest in this game, but I hopped into the multiplayer and had an absolute blast. Excited to play the campaign.
in regards to the open world taking too much away from the standard halo design, why yes there is a void left in the spot of those moments, this is our time as a community to let 343 know that we need a balance of the two in the future campaigns they plan to release on Halo infinite.
looks like 343 will be too busy fixing multiplayer 🤣🤣🤣🤣
What exactly are you balancing? do not know what 343 has in store for all Spartans what happens if after 3 weeks of playing they change the enemies or missions in some way to keep you coming back or in 4 months time add another 1 hour Story mode do the campaign as its open world?
I love the way no one gave a sh*t about Halo 3 weeks ago and now everyone is a Fu*cking die hard Halo fan, bashing the game that has not even come out yet.
GAMERS = RETARDS
So nostalgia or innovation? Cause last I checked, can't do both unless committed to one or the other. And if neither, than you get what Halo 5 is
@@jsrocker248 or you can get Elden Ring, which seems to be doing open world Dark Souls pretty well
? Who in their right mind would pay for their “future campaign expansions” though, with how borked and money grubby the multiplayer is.
I love the nuance you put in your reviews. Superb work, sir.
Man, knowing the lore side of Halo makes this story absolutely incredible. They really serviced hardcore fans in the story so I could see how to most it doesn’t seem like much. I’m so excited for the Precursors or aspects of them to finally be in the game, and Offensive Bias
Edit: 7:33 this is where lore comes into play. It is very much resolved what the mystery is
Haven't really been into halo since halo 3, for me that's when Halo peaked. That said I played and had my fill of infinite's multiplayer, I was going to check the single player out, but this video has confirmed all the concerns I had with them moving to an open world framework.
No please try it. Its really a fun ride with ups and downs. This review did not do it justice.
@@KidGreeD14 Its ups only go to "boring and generic" at its peak, so not really saying much
@@Freelancer837 i completely disagree i haven't had this much fun in halo since reach. You can't tell you didn't enjoy the house of reckoning.
@@KidGreeD14 Considering I had to look up which part of the game the House of Reckoning was to even remember what part of the game it was, I think my answer should be pretty obvious. And even then, the House of Reckoning was basically just two short Firefight arenas mixed in with two really simple and unfun boss fights.
The only part that felt any fun at all was unlocking the Spartan Charge / Groupound upgrade from Halo 5 and realizing it was pretty OP
@@Freelancer837 wow that's amazing. To each their own then.
Skill Up positively reviews a new game in a beloved franchise: "#1 Most Trusted Game Reviewer on RUclips"
Skill Up negatively reviews a new game in a beloved franchise: "This guy doesn't know what he's talking about."
Always appreciate the line you straddle, Ralph.
It’s more like having a popular opinion vs an unpopular opinion.
Nah, I still remember his Deep Rock Galactic review recommending it and the comments saying he did wrong because he only played on easy
He recommends the game.
Love that story review. It's important to stress that better story doesn't mean more detail but rather focused themes and relationships. You can work a better story while arguably still playing it safe but Infinite seems to hold back as a defense of previous reception.
Combat and gameplay are actually quite good. Just as good as the other Halo games. Problem was the absence of great set pieces we experienced in Halo 1, 2, 3, and Reach.
And absence of level design diversity; And the absence of challenging enemy compositions; And the absence of unpredictable combat encounters. etc.
Did skillup actually play halo 4? 343 did everything that he wanted from the story and people hated it back in 2012. Fanboys didn’t want the story to evolve. They wanted chief to remain as the emotionless badass dude who shoots guns.
Yeah this was the same feeling i got. Halo 4 was the best story in a Halo game, in pure narrative sense and it's hated by the fanbase. So of course 343 is leaning heavily into the sandbox after that.
The thing is, the story always unfolded around the chief and cortana. They made the story about chief and cortana, and even then, they complete ruined the story they wrote in 4 with 5 anyway lol
Another 343 Halo Game with very good shooting, a disappointing/confusing story, a lacking level design - with not enough variety in the ambients you traverse, along the playthrough, to let you immerse in the world around ( in clear contrast to all the Bungie's Halo Games, where there was no such thing as "a long boring walk in the same locations", type of mission. The surroundings were always chainging. Even multiple times in just one mission. )
I don't think a Halo like this is ( for me ) worth buying.
Thanks for this honest video review, man.
"There's no such thing as an objective review" - favorite RUclipsrs' excuse.
Interesting. I'm loving both the pilot and weapon so far. Maybe they become annoying later.
No I think the Pilot and Weapon arent annoying I thought they were the best parts
Personally I also really like them. I don't see what's annoying about them.
I agree as well, I like them a lot
Good job on the video, very in depth and I do like the likes and dislikes of what you thought of the game. I am glad that Halo Infinite is a good game, is not a masterpiece, but it is a fun Halo game which I am glad it is.
True, now that it seems like they have a good foundation, the future story expansions can try to push this franchise to be more ambitious. Maybe next time they bring in ither playable Spartans, they actually make them interesting. Oh and a much better open world.
They probably need to bring in the Halo War writers and just more outside writers in general lol.
What makes you think 343 can actually support a game for 10 years, when all their predecessors couldn't? Every game they've made has had a dying player base and never re-establishes after. And the funny thing is you can't even say MCC because that was done by all 3rd party studios and was fixed by ALL outsourced studios. Same with infinite 6 outsourced studios stapled this game together and 343 is taking all the credit.
@@EUTOPIATTV everyone does this now. Outsourcing is the word. For example, bluepoint is so small because all the heavy lifting is outsourced. They said it themselves in the noclip video.
@@rocstarang5747 Not to the extent of what 343 does, thats an excuse to pay college grads 40k/year on contracted work. Believe what you want though, I've been in around the industry to long and seen that first hand.
@@EUTOPIATTV true but all 40k/year kids aren't equal. That's what I've learned from years of dealing with contract work 😉
I knew this problem was going to exist years ago. They should have made multiple smaller open world segments of the ring with different biomes to add variety. The obvious duplication of linear level designs shows a real lack of resources after designing a huge semi pointless open world in a halo game that is only good for mint blitz style shenanigans and not much more. Very sad the actual story and focus of level designs is gone here since so many resources were spent building such a large world. Hopefully dlc can fix these problems or a sequel can.
They had diff areas but that Chris dude had the game direction jammed up so they had to cut it. Hopefully they will add diff areas in the expansion
Here cause Jack Sather shouted this video out and um.. All i gotta say is im definitely gonna subscribe i like the love and effort u put into your video and im sure your other videos are the same cant wait to see
Thank you for mentioning the lack of biomes! I had been waiting and waiting to see new interesting locations, but they never came. Just grassland and evergreens, over and over.
This is what I love about your work, Ralph. You'll tell us what is on your mind and understand the difference between opinion and facts. I am pretty interested in this game, and even with your criticism I still think it'll be a good experience. Thanks for the amazing videos, man!
You're my go to for reviews dude. In regards to the story telling I'm wondering, for someone new to the halo franchise, for the new consumer that 343 may want to bring in (younger teens who never played halo campaigns) how do you think the story works for them? Does it bring them into the franchise or would it leave them perplexed? I ask cause you talk in your review about Destiny's great story telling and I gotta tell you I got into destiny when they turned on crossplay...I played all 3 expansions (thanks gamepass!) and I don't really have a concrete sense of what's going on LOL.
Excellent Review SkillUp! Halo has been a key part of my video game journey, and I am pumped to play this one!
Hard to dislike a review like this. Very in depth and the opinions have clear definition. Great job
Lol we can't even the dislike.
" I need a weapon"
Halo infinite: we got the weapon
Great vid Shill! Love the breakdown of what the open world environment is now, and what it can be - hope this model has some positive benefit for gamers and isn't a cash grab for content that disrupts the pacing and narrative.
You are the reviewer we don't deserve, thank you for all your great work!
No flood love? Everybody is forgetting that the flood in halo 1 is one of the best part of the game.
Dude I know. Wtf? Nobody even mentions it.. So many aspects of the old halo missing here. This is literally just one level of Halo:CE that they took and made into an open world.
This review confuses me. You recommend it, but the only part that didnt have some sort of big drawback was the gunplay, everything else was either a solid "okay" or "this has the chance to be good, but only after thess 5 negatives." Any other game launch like this would be hit with solid "meh" reviews, but why is Halo given the greenlight? The entire review I was just thinking "Isnt that a reason why you dont recommend X?"
Just feels strange, since at no point did I ever feel like you were praising the game outside of the start when talking about how the sandbox feels, so why is this recommended then?
Yeah it is very odd I mean over the weekend people were complaining so much that 343 locked down their reddit but only a day passes and everyone is giving this game almost perfect scores
It was an excellent review. Guess we give our own internalised score. A 6/10 game is still good and has merit.
I'm confused as well. considering that ign gave it a 9, I think the main reason is because the previous games were bad and halo infinite is definitely a step up from that and since people love halo it feels like a gift for them after that long dark period.
@@Tekeysix IGN gave Halo 5 a 9/10, every Halo has scored a 9 minimum, so it reeks of bs
@@BlueLionsTVNiiNiiFC oh really? damn I forgot that. now it makes sense, they can't give halo infinite a lower score than halo 5
10:15 I would argue that the Pilot’s whole character arc is learning to trust Master Chief. The Pilot has never fought alongside Chief, Johnson has. The two characters are completely different people with different personalities.
Extraordinary review, true and made by a fan, you are without a doubt my go to guy for an honest review, thank you.
First: I love your work. Always is top notch. This time I feel like it's a bad game you really love, for the mix of nostalgia and fun. And for sure I can take that. You say something like "Halo has always been a reflection of the state of the gaming industry" and this is too. An industry trying to make profits in a long stance games. A couple days ago I read about someone on 343 saying "servers cost money" and I was like "you are taking money from the moment you sell the game" and then I realize that amount of money maybe just covers development and not the future. And the monetization is needed after all. It's a complex situation. Halo is fun. And that's a lot to say in games nowadays. It's feels nostalgic from you. And I totally can deal with that. You deserve it Sir! I can totally deal with you loving a bad game. You have give us a lot of work through the years. And besides you loving a bad game, I really love It too. Broken and all.the pvp is great and I hate pvp. As always, great work!!
I wouldn't make that impression off one review
@@covenantempire9783 I´ve been following Skill Up for the last 4 or 5 years. I have a lot of reviews on my back to get to understand some of his tastes :p
I would be alot happier about the campaign if coop wasn't 6 months away. I'm not too into the MP(I havent played halo since 2) so I'm soo bad and it's just rage inducing. But the campaign looks fun and maybe I can get some movement and shooting down(and find good settings for controller) during it and go back to MP. As always greta review skillup
I'm enjoying MP, but 90% of the people in there are far better than me... so I hear you. Soon as I start getting pissed, I walk away. Lots of practice, and maybe I can only be beaten by the top 80% of players. :-/
Idk. I love how the story went. I really couldn’t guess what would happen next. It was emotional, and it gave some insight into just what Cortana did when she went rogue. Chief had to slowly explain how painful it was to destroy someone who was so close to you. I’d rate the campaign 9/10 IMO. Reach and H2 still reign, but I think HI was very close.
The more I hear about and play Halo Infinite, the more I want to see a documentary about what it was like working on this game. 343 certainly couldn't carry on with the format of halo 4 and 5, but I think the move to an open-world etc was more of a reaction to those games not going well, rather than a bold deliberate change of direction. That could explain why the moment to moment gameplay feels so solid, but the story and overall world feels a bit undercooked. Personally, I've really struggled to 'get into' halo infinite, I find myself hovering over the tile in my library and then click on something else - this review explains it for me. The gameplay is really really fun, but there's not much in terms of visuals/story/characters that drives me to push through the campaign.
"We really wanted Halo Infinite to be a spiritual reboot, something that brings Halo back to its roots and draws heavy influence from Combat Evolved."
*proceeds to copy/paste missions throughout just like CE*
That's what happens when u get the whole fanbase begging them to just redo stuff they did last time.
lmao
I'm sad like everyone else there aren't more environments, more rings you travel to, more things to discover. I'm really hoping that with Bethesda working with Xbox that some of their writers help 343 build up a greater story for these next 10 years of Halo.
It won't be the case because bethesda is busy with better projects and starfield.
Bethesda themselves need help for their stories. Story is usually the first thing people criticize when it comes to their latest games like Skyrim and Fallout 4.
I think that while the plots of bethesda games tend to be kinda iffy, they're great at creating a worthwhile journey and a sense of adventure with their map design and character progression. I think in that regard, 343 could learn something from them. Even if they should maybe both take a lesson from Obsidian or maybe CD Projekt Red on how to tell a story.
@@olo9127 Fallout 4 had great main plot. Mission design and characters could be better, but plot itself was fine.
Bethesda is not grest at writing stories though lol. Maybe fun side content, but not main stories.
I enjoyed the story and the characters. The campaign rocks and I have been playing Halo for 20 years. You had lowered my expectations considerably, so thank you for that. Good to know that you and all the other folks who rushed out their sniffy reviews got it wrong.
Great review as usual, super bummed about the open world stuff, but dude, watching you shoot hunters in the face about drove me nuts. Lol
Pretty fair review Skill, considering your obvious love for the franchise (especially the bungie era) juxtaposed to the flaws of Halo Infinite. Of all the games you play and review I was almost half expecting some bias to leak it’s way into the review but once again you’ve managed to give a balanced assessment here. Thanks mate 👍
Once again, SkillUp's ideas for how the game could have been sound incredible. Still excited to play Infinite, but man, I want to see that old man master chief story!
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Skillup has nailed it. An older chief wrestling with his mortality. Like old snake.
Such a good review, and you're right on about the story. They could have done so much more with it.
I’m not expecting Halo 3, Halo 2 or Reach levels of Story/Characters, that was to be expected. I knew it was going to be Open-World as well. I’m expecting a super fun sandbox that’ll be a blast through on Legendary so I’m satisfied. It’s a new take on Halo that seems like great fun.
I’ll definitely judge the story on my own accord as I liked SOME parts of 4/5 for example.
Literally, what at all is to like about halo 5's campaign?
It is one level copy pasted 10 times over a huge map. Just like all the other open worlds nowadays.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 Sangheilios, specifically Arbiter.
@@enjoshi-godrez8775 I watched a video that had all of 5's cutscenes again. what a disaster lol
Edit: After completing the game on legendary I can say that it was much better than I think skillup gave it credit for especially if you know some of the lore not mentioned directly in game. I'm still hesitant if they can really improve on the storytelling front and keep the writing quality up but I'm very much excited for future campaigns now and that is not something I was predicting after hearing this review.
Well my fears have basially been confirmed. I will still absolutely be playing it but knowing that the story isn't that great and the homogeneous level design is a bit deflating. I know that some bungie guys were trasnferred to 343 when the company was born but it seems like they (as a collective) just don't understand what makes Halo great all-around. The game play itself feels great but everything else feels undercooked and the writing team has been a big dissapointment since 343 took over.
Like 5 people, most went to work on destiny
Just play the game when it comes out, i watched 3 review so far. this the only one with some negativity
Don't give up on the story yet, you might enjoy it.
Honestly from that very first demo. I knew it would be lack luster. Seemed to be just as cheesy and cartoony looking as 5. Just with a HW2 skin.
As someone who didn't play Halo growing up, I jumped into the MCC. I got to Halo 3 before I dropped out because I was so bored of the same environments and enemies. Sounds like this is more of the same.
I think I posted the exact same thoughts about Halo's overall narrative after Halo 5. But what I pitched in the overrall narrative moving forward was: what if Chief has to kill Cortana, and when he does, he finds out that circumstances leading to Cortana's going haywire was always intended, and that her becoming chaotic is a result of programming implemented by a group of people on Earth long, long ago, to stop the forerunners' Halo technology, which will be revealed to not just be simply a weapon but primarily a tool for creating limitless energy. Basically, Halo's version of the Military Industrial Complex is spinning every story about forerunners as entities we should be extremely suspiscious of, because their technology for building utopias threatens the potentiality of the human race becoming the universe's most supreme species.
After Cortana is gone she basically leaves a cache of data of who is responsible for doing this to her, leaves it for Chief, and he resolves to find the people responsible for what is basically turning his closest friend into a mentally ill, deranged version of herself. And he can't just accuse these people of a crime, because they have too much power and influence, so he has to assassinate them, which puts him in a precarious position because there are good USNC soldiers who will protect these scumbags, not knowing the truth.
From there, each game can simply be about Chief trying to hitchike his way back to Earth, being woken up or arriving at some station where a member of this sinister group resides, and Chief decides to plan his own missions and kill his own High Value Targets - _human targets_ - without anyone suspecting him, because _hey, he's the motherfucking Master Chief! Humanity's savior!_ Gamers will have to figure out in each game, who the chief is really after, but also watch as Chief purposefully makes himself useful, to win an audience with the HVT and kill them. And what you get is a tension like Halo has never seen before, because not only will Chief have to contend with the Covenant and [insert other alien antagonists], but the underlying narrative will be having to figure out who Chief is here to kill, and what their role was in the group.
It's JASON BOURNE meets METAL GEAR SOLID 3 meets KNIVES OUT.
I’d play this game. Don’t think Halo will ever be this ambitious, the reality is a game like this would cost more and why do more when you can do less and it still pays big money? Make your own fun, sandbox, etc, etc, its just the same recycled emergent experiences, that’s we’ve experienced in tonnes of games before. People have been saying for ages, graphics, presentation, etc, dont matter, its about game play game play game play. It’s right, gameplay is key, but, its just the same combat loops in different orders. No surprise they focus on that the most, that’s the addictive part that this industry is mastering so far. Everything else takes a backseat, yet still scores high for some reason.
Perfect a sleepless night for me love to see it
Same.
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Halo Infinite is the first Halo game that made me realize that no matter how much I wish or hope. I'll never experience another Halo game like the original trilogy.
It's been over a decade since 3 released, and in that time gaming and gamers have changed a lot. I think even if Bungie made Infinite, it still wouldn't evoke the same feelings I felt when I crash landed in CE or saved the world in 2 and 3. I guess that's the hardest part of growing up and growing older.
Since 343 said this is supposedly the last Halo title for a long time, I'm glad that fans atleast got a good departure.
imma be honest i agree and i say that coming from a current age gamer (genZ) i played the original trilogy and i felt nothing for the most part except annoying game desgins
@@snuzzysnorlax1253 I played Halo 2 way back in 2006 and it was the only Halo I played until I played the rest of the games on the MCC this year. Halo CE definitely does not age well especially in the 2nd half on the game. The Library level design is just awful. But you can't deny it's a groundbreaking game for the shooter genre especially in 2001.
I think about all of the brilliant and varied locations in Halo Combat Evolved that will stick in my memory forever. The tropical beach of the Silent Cartographer, the covenant ship of Truth and Reconciliation, the haunting foreboding feeling of the Library, the desolate escape from the Maw, crossing the bridges and the cold snow of Assault on the Control Room, even The Two Betrayals which is the same level (just backwards and at night) has a distinct feeling.... It looks like Halo Infinite has captured that feeling of when you crash land on the Halo ring the first time, but I'm disappointed it seems like they have not imagined anything past that, just the same level stretched out for an entire campaign. That's a significant bummer for this 20 year Halo veteran.
When you started talking about MC getting older and that adding to the plot and your early Metal gear comment. It made me think of mgs4