ATA Trucking Company Says "Sleep In The Truck Stop Driver's Lounge"? (+ Story!)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
- ATA Trucking Company Says "Sleep In the Truck Stop Driver's Lounge?" In this video, Dave tells a story about a newly licensed CDL driver who was instructed to stay warm in his truck, to either sleep in the driver's lounge of a truck stop or buy a blanket!
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Hey there Big Strappers. So glad you dropped by to watch today's video. Have you ever been handed a similar solution from your carrier where it was something THEY would never do, but expected YOU to do? Love to hear from you!
It's beyond me that a driver has to ask a company how they are supposed to keep warm. That's what the truck is for. And the first time they told me I had to sleep in the driver's lounge to keep warm, someone else would have to come get that truck because I would be on my way back home.
It is always someone in a warm comfy office telling the trucker to suck it up, or it is not a big deal.
How to bypass idle shutdown with mega carriers: they all have temp settings to override the shutdown: under a particular temp and over a particular temp. Under the driver side mirror, there is a small black plastic temp probe that tells the truck the temp. I used a heating pad to keep the temp above 105 F and it never shut down. I ran the cord for the heating pad through the door (just closed the door on it) and the rubber weather strip was the only thing touching the cord and did no damage.
Leave the trailer brakes on parking brakes off. The truck will idle all night in neutral. If you're freezing and mega won't give you heat. Maybe chock the wheels.
I started driving company trucks in the early 70's, a conventional with a 36" bunk that you crawled through the rear window for access or a cab over, none of the nice stuff you have on the new trucks. When I bought my own in the early '90s I installed an electrically operated fuel heater just before the engine and a large mattress sized heating pad to sleep on with a sleeping bag over the blankets on really cold nights. I didn't idle my engine, wasted fuel and wear on my engine wouldn't help me make money. I would turn the heating pad on 20 minutes before laying down and sleep warm in a quiet and not vibrating truck. In the morning just turn the key to accessory and get back in bed for 10 minutes, then start the engine, it starts quick with warm fuel even at 10 degrees outside. Did that for 7 years and didn't feel that I suffered.
leave the truck at the truck stop or scale house and take a greyhound home...screw those companies
I've been driving 3 years now and finally found my forever home. With a lot of help from smart trucking.
Well that is AWESOME. That made our day! That's what we live to hear. It makes SUCH a difference to be with the right company. Can turn a ho-hum job into the best job ever. Congrats to you man.
That's absurd. No driver should have to sleep in a chair to stay warm. Most truck stops don't even have a driver's lounge. I thought the purpose of the eld was to make sure the drivers are rested before driving. How can you legitimately rest for 10 hours in a chair?
the drivers lounges don't even have couches. they are chairs. you can't sleep there.
I remember it was 120 degrees in Phoenix at night. Heat actually overwhelmed my APU's air conditioning capabilities. Was 90 degrees in the cab. Walked into the truck stop and laid a sleeping bag down in the drivers lounge so I could sleep. There were three or four other drivers with the same idea. I remember I could feel the heat from the asphalt through my sandals that night.
Well hopefully this causes another lawsuit against Welfare Express. How absolutely evil to do to another human being
If I was told to sleep in the driver's lounge, I'd tell them to stuff it! Driver's have a tough job, and should be treated with respect. My stint otr was short (6 weeks), went local and never looked back! Stay safe!
Western Express is being really stupid. Not providing your drivers a good sleeping environment is dangerous. Drivers need to be alert, and how is that possible when you were up all night shivering or trying to sleep in a chair in the driver's lounge?
I do my own thing. If I'm in Vegas or Phoenix and it's to hot for the apu, I use optimized idle with interior comfort mode on. To hell with their fuel costs.
That is what werner told me to do, sleep in a rest area instead of running the truck in a blizzard. Not my fault they gave me a truck without any kind of extra heating and cooling. That was the last of them for me.
Years ago I worked in the office at knight transportation a memo came across the computer stating that all trucks will idle under 10% any driver who couldn’t achieve 10% or less would be fired they had a zero tolerance policy 115° in Phoenix the suggestion was they wait in the shippers office or receiver office while waiting to be loaded I quit that job shortly after that Some shippers won’t even let you use the bathroom let alone wait in the office while you’re being loaded
Crap like that just leaves me speechless, however I am not surprised....uff.
Now I see why trucks get abandoned.
Nothing would give me greater joy than to see convict express go under
3:45.... One thing, i knew years ago; ....'' i only drive for reputable owner/operators/companies. I used to haul, only loads that '' run on '' and '' run off ''.
Such as crude oil, fuel, cattle, grain , powder cement, gravel, wells in the oilfields. NO GATES, to wait upon; NO WAITING a whole weekend, in some place 300 miles from home, for a load.......WORK FOR a company, where waiting is NOT INVOLVED, too much. Gravel, was really good. Moving alot, not no waiting time. (oldguy in alberta )
Every truck I ever drove had a bunk heater. But trying to stay cool in the heat was a different story.....
One word Webasto. I’d get routed to my home terminal and hand em the keys.
You want a few company rigs to be rammed into your corporate buildings and owners houses? Because this is how you do it , stuff like this is a matter of life and death and even in the military we wouldn't accept this unless the war is going that bad. If the company won't meet basic humanitarian NEEDS then they should be sued for ENDANGERMENT because that's what it is plan and simple, yes you can run trucks without APUs and A/C's and Bunk heaters but you damn well better keep those trucks is a very bearable climate that all you need is the windows down and the Temps never drop below 65. People WILL die if they can't stay warm in the winter.
They do the same with pilots
" sleep in the crew room "
How can new drivers get a job without experience without working for a mega carrier? Everyone is asking for at least 1-2 years experience.. this industry is taking advantage of new drivers. It's beyond disrespectful
While it *WAS* dangerous, I did sleep in 10⁰F weather multiple times, but always slept with a sleeping bag on in my clothes, while covered up with two more layers of quilts/comforters.
Wow. I never expected to hear sanity spoken, but you did it well. I'm 68 now, started driving at 19 stopped at 63 when the knees just wouldn't work anymore. I totally agree with EVERYTHING you said. They put bean counters in charge of trucking companies. Armed with zero knowledge and just a calculator to back themselves up. Been there done that and proud that I did. But I would not be asking how to stay warm, I'd be refusing to go. Good topic. Dave
Should be part of their training to use equipment and stay comfortable.
I set the cruise control at 1500 rpms while parked. This will override idle shut down.
My co. Gave me a very nice O/O speck 2022 389 Pete sleeper , they even will buy me a hotel room if I want , sometimes I wii do it for a 36 hr. Reset . They are so cool to me !
I learned so much every time on this channel. Thank you
most truck stops today don't even have a driver's lounge
Always enjoy your insights and stories!!!
The firetrap motel that actually burned to the ground is a funny story lol.
“Sleep in the drivers lounge”
Your kidding right?
Thank you mister..
Screw that. I worked for some douchebag owners that didn't want the truck idling. I did anyway and they checked the hour meter when I returned. Docked me 400.00 on my check. I quit and turned them into the labor board. Got paid.
If his truck doesn't have a bunk heater then tell him to keep the truck break engaged & pull the trailer break it will stop the truck from idle shutdown
The 70s is when I started and it was tough in the winter up north.
Carriers didn't care then and they don't care now either.
When I was a rookie I had a truck that didn’t have a bunk heater that work so the only way to get heat was when the truck was running so what I would do is I would crank the heat up really high for like 15 minutes before I went to sleep when the truck is on idle it’ll tell you it’s about to shut off and then you just tap the gas pedal and then it keeps going so you do that a few times and get it real hot inside the truck and then you can go to sleep and then usually you’re good for a few hours and then you wake up freezing your nuts off and you do the same thing again start the truck and let it run for a little bit you knowBasically you got a wake up for like 15 minutes in the middle of the night to get warm inside the truck again bye I was doing over the road so I didn’t really have too many super cold night because I was down south sometimes and just moving around but there were nights where it was really cold and then I ended up getting a job somewhere else and then now I have a bunk heater in my truck which is pretty nice nice
Thanks brother
This is why I follow "employer rules" very loosely. The best attitude to have with companies like WE is a "fuck you, fire me bitch" attitude. Luckly shit like this is irrelevant where I work now.
I would've found myself a nice rock and jammed it in the pedal to keep the truck from turning off.
You are so right. The small carrier for year's listened. the younger generation took over and things have changed towards the low side. What do you think about driver facing cameras? Windshield facing cameras I support.they have done a lot to support our driver force
I've heard from truckers that GPS transponders are "Big Brother" in action.They can't stop for five minutes for a hygiene break without a dispatcher going crazy on their cell phone to scream about the delay. No wonder there's a drive shortage if this is the kind of mistreatment they get.
So they don't have a bunk heater in the truck??? They are pretty much standard equipment unless either the driver doesnt know how to use it or the company cheaped out.
I worked for Western Express back in 2000 and they were a shit outfit then and I see they haven't changed in 20+ years. This doesn't surprise me at all.
When I started driving, couldn't idle and had no idea what a bunk heater was... first winter driving mostly north of I-70. Asked dispatch a few times but never got a response.
Many years ago in my Swift days due to a breakdown had a 3rd shift driver manager tell me that.
Few days later he was fired and got a phone call apology from Mr Jerry.
Our trucks don't have apu but they have an espar heater , works like a house furnace, when the truck is shut off only uses 1 gallon of fuel every 18 hours , works great
I'm glad i'm never be a trucker this day of age
I drove truck for a time. I don't know why anyone would want to subject himself to the abuse of drivers in the industry..
I drove for Swift. They would complain about idling and I would say, i will stop idling when the office turns off air conditioning at the office.
I been running up to ND last few weeks & I been seeing GP-Trans Co and I tried talking to the guys on CB to see how the company is but no luck non have CB's Hopfully I can talk to one eventually
I was with Can Am West a few seasons ago. Before they packed it in. They hired me to drive a brand new short nose Pete with a tridem trailer, out of Abbotsford BC. The way they Spec’d for max net wt. and control costs was to block 1 one fuel tank. Micro management eh I’ve been 30 yrs OTR then and said what idiot did this? To the orientation guy. He said the guy behind you. I turned and laughed. No way full load lumber is making it back from Grande Prairie Alberta to Kamloops BC on winter fuel on a single 120 fuel tank in the winter pushing snow, locked up, with chains on! We could only splash 300 litres at the flying J. Grande Prairie it was volume restricted fuel stop to limp us to Kamloops BC Chevron or cfl in Barrier BC. lt Did not top the tank from our approved Alberta allowed fuel supplier. Chevron was the BC fuel stop. (Everyone of us were on fumes that fall on summer fuel by the time we made Kamloops Chevron at the top of the hill by the scales). He said well we have people that say it can be done. I said brand new rigs barley getting 5 mpg, never! Remember we were not full after the splash in GP. I had to buy fuel in Blue River to extend to their fuel location in Kamloops .. I was first out of the Canfor mill mid blizzard. Other guys slept the night. Never saw another vehicle till Grande Cashe AB. Not even a plow. Full chains and locked almost all the way to Grande Cashe AB. They refused to pay me back. So I called the cops in the dispatch office and reported theft. Manager came out of his office when he heard what I was doing. I got paid! I was the first to hit a storm but not the last that couldn’t make it. Including the driver orientation guy! Big idiot companies crunching numbers not caring about the most important part of trucking. The Drivers!
Tires last about 4 hours when used for heat
I guess Eberspacher,or Webasto cab heater aren't too common in your part of the world?
Merci!
Hey Simon, thank you so much for the support. Much appreciated! Keep the rubber side down.
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you guys not have night heaters over there ?? seems like it should be standard equipment for a carrier doing lots of stay aways
How can a new driver ask the right questions when they have no clue as to what it's like to be driving long haul? 99% of new drivers quickly become disillusioned once they hit the road. It takes a special kind of person to live a trucker's life. There's a lot more to it than just getting in the truck and driving.
Become a Teamster, good working conditions, good pay and a safe work environment are guaranteed
Was in a Big cement truck up north truck stop lost my cdl then they would not let me sleep in Driver lounge. Could not get hotel. They could care less about a Driver.
It's called a BUNK HEATER ,that would had been the question for the experienced driver to ask the western ex.driver,because most trucks nowadays have bunk heaters ,now wether not it works is a different story
Most of the larger trucking companies that track driver fuel economy. And especially those that apply a bonus to maintaining a certain level of MPG. Argue against idling the truck for sleeping. In Winter, a Driver can keep warm using one of the 12v bunk warmer heating pads. Of course this assumes the truck electrical system is able to handle the power draw and still be able to start the truck the next day. It can depend a good deal on the specific dispatcher. But yes, there are those who will recommend using a truck stop drivers lounge. Some going so far as to 'Suggest' using a drivers theater if the truck stop has one. A room where drivers can rent to watch or just watch whatever is randomly chosen to be played. Reasoning being that the lights in such rooms are kept low.
In summer months of course, you're pretty much hosed.
Most trucks having an automated shut off or anti-idle system had ways of bypassing or negating them.
Such as, setting the brakes on the trailer but leaving the truck brakes released.
With the rise in fuel costs it's possible the old Idle Air system or something similar will make a comeback.
Can’t idle? High idle with cruise control.
Company disabled that? Quit. A webasto heater only costs $1200.00 installed.
The craziest thing I’ve ever heard , wow
Plot twist: THE DRIVER started the fire.
Is AB5 coming for Lease operator
I went through this exact thing in December of 2011 with this exact company. Next morning, freezing, I had to lie to company saying I was having issues with truck and was going to their terminal in Birmingham Al. I was north of there and lived in between so I drove to jasper Al, my home and called them to tell them I quit. Otherwise they wouldn't have allowed me to get home. Delivered the truck to terminal next day. Furthermore, I was on a c pap machine and needed truck on to generate power to my machine and they still refused. When I started at western express my orientation was over on a Friday. But I had to wait till Monday to get paperwork from their doctor for my c pap. They wouldn't dispatch me. Put me back in my motel room with no money, no food, nothing from Friday afternoon until Monday night by the time they got all documents verified and me certified. Only food I had was motels continental breakfast in the morning. This company needs to be completely shutdown and people who run it prosecuted for the treatment of their potential drivers.
Idle laws only apply to pre emission trucks Read the sticker on the door, "Certified Clean Idle" . ....
All these people say putting something on the fuel pedal or only setting the trailer brake to keep the truck from shutting down , that's mostly BS , it's all truck specific at the most, some of the trucks are set from the factory to shut down after 2 to 5 minutes there's no bypassing that
Dave, since starting my new job with the Korean mafia, I am now delivering containers locally around Phoenix and occasionally Tucson, Nogales, etc., I now have a day cab, and it is brand new. It also “will not idle “. It has an automatic shut down. Well, this is how I got around it! And I’m certain that for the driver with western Xpress, or any other company, that has this “feature “, that this little trick will work. When I stop for a delivery, and bump the dock, I set the trailer break, but not the tractor break. The computer will not shut down the engine With the yellow knob pushed in! Of course, remember that I work for the Korean mafia, and this is just something that they do not pay attention to at all. Western express may go up at the number of hours of Idletyme
Stories!!!!! ;)
The truck may have a bunk heater but no one told the driver how to use.
When I first got my license, I worked for a company. that would dock your pay. If they deemed you idled “too much”.
Wow how disgusting these mega carriers are. Eld future speed limiter possibilty, all from mega carrier. Reason rub out all the smaller carriers.
I like your videos, but this doesn't sound right. An APU costs 12-14 thousand dollars but an Espar or Wabasto bunk heater costs only one gallon of diesel per night. These heaters are 500- 600 and a cheap China knock-off bunk heater is under 200. Even the worst mega carrier would equip their fleet with a bunk heater.
Why ain't you driving for GP transco
And that right there, is why the DOT was taken by the gop for the captains of industry, sleep in the driver's lounge. Industry tops know they could have growing problems talking to to many old dogs like that, bit they can easily get away with that with newbees and youngsters.
I was FIRED from PGT Trucking for idling at night during this past hot summer
I was told to put down my windows. I told them (Nick Marshall dispatcher) why don't you put doors n windows opened at night
And told him hopefully your wife will complain at you.
So I got FIRED.
Western Express is trying hard to be the new Swift...and they're doing pretty well catching up!
Why is the letuce king called the letuce king?
I am a current Western Express driver. The answer I got when I started here was the truck will keep the interior above 50°. This is the worst place I've ever worked. I sleep in a bag, and my hoodies currently. I seem to get blamed no matter what.
I had a young driver that had driven for western express it was one horror story after another. I was a coast to coast procuce hauler and not that I didn't trust him (I've seen WE drivers do some strange things) but I took him with me 2 trips. He said orientation was a nightmare there. He asked me when he first called about idling , well if you're hot or cold I'd idle but we have APU's. Lotta mega haulers will turn a guy away from driving with their horse hockey.
No Mega Carriers for me
Sleeper trucks!!! Does the name tell you something ding ding
Define Irony!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Then they wonder why they can't hire drivers....
I'm not a trucker. But years ago I had the dumbest piece of human waste as a foreman. I had been working about 2 hours away from home late into the morning and I had to be back at the place that same morning. I told him in advance there is no way I'm driving home just to turn around and drive back. He told me to sleep in the company van. It wasn't freezing but it was close enough. He said he used to sleep in the van when he was a technician. Yeah when his ex kicked him out of the house. There was a hotel that shared the same parking lot. Gave the company amex card to the clerk, got a room, and rested for a few hours. I found that a couple of hours rest and a shower are enough to keep me going. I did the expense report and never heard a word from him.
Crete gives you "fuel solutions". To me they're are a waste of time. When you get to certain truckstops you have to wait 10-15 mins cause everybody wants to save .004 cents a gallon!
Regardless of the temperature I just listen to Taylor Swift and I’m transported into a happy place.
here in Denmark we sleep with each other in a 1 bedroom hotel room to stay warm at night
blankets work quite well. sleeping bag if it's cold. I've never been cold. yeah it's a bit chilly in the morning. it takes about a minute rolling and it's like summertime.
I did a month of training with Western Express then ran away...they suck
Does gp Transco hire Canadian drivers or owner operator ?
We don't run Canada anymore
I'm so glad I'm no longer a trucker.
Don't work for Western Express
It the rippling affects of this administration!!!!
Stop hating on Western Express! These are the good days. Their future plans are to recommend (enforce) that in winter drivers stuff their clothes with old newspapers and either sleep in the seat or, if that's not possible due to all the rustling noises when trying to get comfortable, under the cab on the ground (drivers have to buy their own tarp). As far as dealing with scorching heatstroke summer temps, you'll be happy to know that WE is collaborating with some other mega carriers in a study run by a renowned veterinary college, to see if new drivers can be taught to pant like dogs. Apparently the early results are promising - major fuel savings and a death rate for drivers far less than the actuarial tables at first suggested. Yes, young strappers, the golden age of trucking is just around the corner.