“Is the Secret Rapture Real?“ 3ABN Today Bible Q & A (TDYQA210025)
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2021
- Many Christian denominations believe in a Pre-tribulation Rapture, but what does the Bible say about this? Find out the answer to this question-and many others-on 3ABN Today Bible Q & A with Jason Bradley, Shelley Quinn, Jill Morikone, and Ryan Day.
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Who ever is watching, remember Jesus loves you so much ❤️❤️❤️
He also loves you
He loves you as well God bless you
Yeshua loves me.
Jesus is an invention.
Thank you Jill, Shelley & Jason for introducing this segment🙏🙏🏾🙏🙏🏾
WOW! I learned a lot from this video. Thank you.
We hear from Him daily if we seek Him.
John 16:7-16
John 10:1-5
Amos 5:6
I thought of another passage that goes along with the question of "what does it mean to worship God in Spirit and in Truth?" - What is the greatest commandment? Matthew 22:36-40
Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” - this passage encapsulates the entire reference that we should "worship God in Spirit and in truth.
Meditate on that for awhile!
Jill's new hair style is awesome! 👌
Very fitting for her face.
Even in our own church are they that trust in God, and those that trust in man.
Really appreciate these answers..Amen
I love my adventist’s people
If it is then God had it written as the biggest and loudest event ever. No secrets there...trumpets blasting, fleets of Angels and Jesus coming every eye shall see, nope no secret there. Praise God
Agree and Amen 🙏
Love this
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If we come to GOD wholeheartedly, deny our self and come into his presence , with song's of praise , especially when your alone you'll realize that it's the best dance you'll ever know, bowing down in sincerity and can leap and skip around when you know that you are redeem by his Blood.
Thanks Ryan. Meet you once and said it was my favorite show. Hope im last in this world. So far im right on target...lol
(21:55) Agreed. Although lets hope that even the ones resurrected that pierced Him are resurrected with the righteous unto eternal life.(Luke 23:34)
The fifth way he speaks to us is Dreams and Visions, also it says that when our Messiah returns he shall come on the clouds with a Loud Trumpet 🎺 and a Shout of a Archangel doesn’t sound like a secret Rapture then from the 4 winds from East to West he will call us up to the Lower Air amen
Exactly, because the passage you're referencing is *NOT* the rapture. Seriously...go ahead and line up side/side *I Thess 4* & *I Cor 15* to let's say *Matt 24,* OK? Start to list out what you find that's similar, OK? Now...
Right beside the column where you find similarities, go back thru the passages and list out the DIFFERENCES between the two...are you with me? What you'll find is some _STARK_ distinctions between the two, and WHY? They describe two *DIFFERENT* events. S/thing to keep in mind, be it scripture, or while you're out grocery shopping...
*=====>* SIMILARITIES DO NOT EQUAL SAMENESS *
@@Kman. thank you very much for taking the time to explain that I will study what you have referred amen 🙏🏽 God Bless
@@Tenisio144RPA If you're sincere, I would applaud you, and forgive me for thinking this, but I'm "thinking" you're just offering the words to blow me off so to speak, and you've bought into what they're saying, hook, line & sinker. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but look...
Your reference even to people being "GATHERED" from the 4 winds, is PROPHESY conerncing the Jews! The rapture takes place PRIOR to Christ's 2nd coming. Here's the prophesy...
• *Isaiah 27:12* “And it shall come to pass in that day…ye shall be GATHERED one by one, O ye children of Israel. =====> LOOK WHO IT IS THAT IS TO BE GATHERED, "CHILDREN OF ISRAEL!
That prophesy is also found in *Isaiah 43:5,6…*
• “Fear not: for I am with thee: I will bring thy seed from the *EAST* and gather thee from the *WEST;* I will say to the *NORTH* give up; and to the *SOUTH,* Keep not back: bring my sons from *FAR,* and my daughters from the *ENDS OF THE EARTH”*
On and on I could go with scripture to support just what it is I am trying to get across in this short post. The "GATHERING" that is found in *Matt 24* is all about the Jews. In *Matt 23* Jesus STARTS the discourse by saying, "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem..." He says He has LONGED to "gather" them time and time again, but they refused.
The tribulation is God's last ditch effort so to speak to get them to turn to Him.
*Matt **23:37**-39* says this, 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! =====> WHO has killed the prophets? Certainly not church age saints! Again, it is Christ who has LONGED to gather them but they've refused.
38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. =====> WHOSE house is left desolate? Think about it.
39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. =====> And here it's clear that it is the JEWS who will say, "Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord", and *THIS IS PROPHESY* that has yet to be fulfilled. This is found in *PSALM 118:26* where it says, "Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the Lord: we have blessed you out of the house of the Lord."
PLEASE STUDY.
@@Kman. I just got Born again in February 2020 so I’m learning as much as I can as fast as I can so I thank you for taking the time to explain really, I just don’t believe that the rapture would be a secret, when it says four winds to gather his anointed is that few or all who have the Holy Spirit?
@@Tenisio144RPA So glad you asked! :) Say...before I forget, your name is unusual (I love it!)...what nationality are you, and where is it you live? A/ways, let's look at a few verses to help bring things into a better u/standing. BTW, nearly *EVERY* verse in the Olivet Discourse could be broken down and elaborated further, but to the two points you brought up...
*Matt **24:31* says, "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."
When words/phrases are simply LIFTED from their *CONTEXT,* that's called *C O N T E X T O M Y.* The passage has ZERO to do with church age saints, and we need that to be established before we get out of the gate. A thread in YT isn't sufficient to make the case, but *MUCH* could be stated that validates that. But to your point about just *WHO* it is being gathered, i.e. the "ELECT".
First off, "ELECT" is not a technical word, meaning, that it does NOT mean the same thing e/time we see it.. We can't ASSUME it means church age believers every time. The *POST-tribulation* position must make it so if they're to find any support for the position. I maybe shouldn't begin here, but let's establish just WHO "ELECT" can also be...
*Deut 7:6* “God hath CHOSEN thee to be a special people unto himself”
*Deut 14:2* “The LORD hath CHOSEN thee to be a peculiar people unto Himself”I
*I Chr **16:13* “O ye seed of Israel his servant, ye children of Jacob, his CHOSEN ones!”
*Ps **33:12* “The people whom he hath CHOSEN for his own inheritance”
*Ps 105:6* “O ye Seed of Abraham his servant, ye children of Jacob his CHOSEN”
*Ps 105:43* “He brought forth his people with joy, and his CHOSEN with gladness”
*Ps 135:4* “For the LORD hath CHOSEN Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure”
*Isa **43:10* “Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have CHOSEN…”
*Isa **43:20* “…I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert...my CHOSEN”
*Isa 45:4* “For Jacob my servant’s sake, and Israel mine ELECT…”
*Isa 65:9* “I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob… mine ELECT shall inherit it”
*Isa 65:22* “… the days of my people, and mine ELECT shall long enjoy the work of their hands”
In o/words, there are TWO groups of "elect" people...church age believers, AND the Jews. So when we see the word used in any given passage, it's the *CONTEXT* that must be established before proceeding.
Those that have to be "GATHERED" in *Matt 24* are those that have been "SCATTERED"...that only makes sense, and as you know, the Jews have been a “SCATTERED” people…
*Neh 1:8* “…I will SCATTER you abroad among the nations”.
*Ez **5:10* “…and the whole remnant of thee will I SCATTER into ALL THE WINDS”
*Ez **17:21* “…and they that remain shall be SCATTERED toward all winds…”
*Zech 2;6* “…for I have SPREAD you abroad AS THE FOUR WINDS of the heaven, saith the LORD.”
*=====>* Notice the reference to "ALL" winds & "FOUR" winds? ** Now compare that with what's found in *Matt **24:31* *
John 1:12
Rev 13:14-18 receive the mark, or the name, or the number
Rev 14: 9-13 worship and receiveth the mark of his name.
John 16:13
Eph 5:9
1 Pet 1:22
1 John 4:6
1 John 5:6
48:42 i think that the rich young ruler was kind of legalistic in his obedience of the law. he thought that he was obeying the law by keeping only the letter of the law. but he was exposed as lacking in love and care for others in his law-keeping. he lacked consideration for others. he observed the letter but the spirit of the law was taken for granted. not doing others harm, as the letter of the law says, is good but love is also best expressed in doing others good. not stealing from others is good but sharing to others what we have makes our law-keeping more perfect. this is what the gentleman lacked.
She completely ignored the Spirit of Prophecy in her answer as to "Why doesnt God speak to us today". I am not sure that was the right thing to do.
He is coming back soon, Nisan 5786.
(9:35)FALSE! Jesus is the only begotten Son of God from the foundation of the earth.
Gen 1:26
John 1:14, 18
John 3:16, 18
As seen by the example of Abraham and Isaac.
Heb 11:17
1 John 4:9
YUP agree
No captions available, I’ll have to pass on this one. Again
I am sorry that this wasn't available to you, Marc. Have you tried to drop them an email asking them to make that adjustment?
Didn't Jesus tell Christians to pray for God's Kingdom to come and for His will to be done on earth as it is in heaven, Matthew 6:9,10? God's Kingdom is a heavenly government ruled by Jesus Christ as King. Soon Jesus will bring beautiful changes to the earth. There will be no more death, pain or sorrow on earth, Revelation 21:4,5! No more wickedness on earth, Psalms 37:9-11! After Armageddon the meek will inherit the earth and live forever on it, Psalms 37:29; Matthew 5:5; Proverbs 2:21,22! The earth will be cultivated into a Paradise like God intended in the beginning, Genesis 1:28; Isaiah 55:11! Jesus will do on a grand scale what he did when he walked the earth including raising those who are asleep in death, John 5:28,29! There will only be one government over the entire earth forever, Daniel 2:44! Jesus said that this good news of the Kingdom would be preached about in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come, Matthew 24:14! Soon Jesus will make sure that God's Will is done on earth as it is in heaven , will you be there to see it? John 4:22-24; John 17:3; Isaiah 42:8!
I'm not sure I u/stand all you said, or WHEN you're saying all of this it to come about as far as Christ's kingdom & its relation to end times. You stated, _"God's Kingdom is a heavenly government ruled by Jesus Christ as King"._
Christ will set up an EARTHLY kingdom where He will rule some day if that is what you mean? That takes place BTW @ the conclusion of the 7yr tribulation period. *Dan **2:44* "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed...and it shall stand for ever."
Christ is not ruling @ the present moment in some "spiritual/heavenly" sense up in heaven on David's throne. No, rather He will LITERALLY establish His kingdom here on earth upon His 2nd coming.
@@Kman. Jesus Kingdom will rule from heaven! He has established His Kingdom in heaven and will soon begin to rule over the earth! Those that he has chosen to rule with him will sit on thrones and rule as kings and priests over those who inherit the earth! Revelation 5:9,10!
@@carolmueller3191 Heading to be right now...up at 3:30 e/day, but I'll comment more later, but no...
Christ is NOT ruling right now...satan is. His kingdom will be here on earth, not in heaven, *Rev 5:10* "And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign ON THE EARTH."
@@Kman. The rest of Revelation as well as other text of the Christian Greek Scriptures show that Jesus Christ and his joint heirs of the Kingdom will rule in heaven, which is the throne of God, whereas the earth is merely the footstool and therefore not the place for the glorified Christ to rule. Consistent translators who render things contextually will therefore render this expression as "over the earth".
@@carolmueller3191
When reading *Luke 17* where we see Christ talking about 2 in the field/2 in bed/2 at the mill/etc, the disciples wanted to know where the ones that will be "TAKEN", will be taken "TO", because it's u/stood by e/one, that the ones that REMAIN, will remain right there, i.e. in the field, in bed, etc. Those that are TAKEN will be taken away to JUDGMENT, but the ones that STAY, will remain for Christ's millennial reign. *Luke 17:37,* "And they answered and said unto him, *WHERE LORD?* And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together."
Nothing in scripture mentions that the ones that remain will later on be "TAKEN" anywhere (to heaven or a/where for that matter)...no, those that are TAKEN are taken away to judgment, and the ones remaining, remain on earth. Those that are "TAKEN" are spoken of in *Rev 19:17* where it tells us of the "supper of the great God" when the fowls of the air feast on the corpses of the dead.
You'll recall from *Matt 4* where we read, "Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him _ALL THE KINGDOMS OF THE WORLD,"_ and the great battle to unfold in *Revelation,* is when Christ wrests power from satan over this *EARTH...* that which satan CURRENTLY controls. _Ahhhh,_ but what prophesy is there to be fulfilled?
=====> *Isaiah 2:2,3* "And it shall come to pass _in the last days,_ that THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD'S HOUSE shall be established IN THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS, and shall be exalted above the HILLS; and *all nations* shall flow unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and LET US GO UP TO THE MOUNTAIN OF THE LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD FROM JERUSALEM."
*No disrespect, but one can't try to "spiritualize" select things just to make things fit their theology.*
=====> *Isaiah 14:1,2* "For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them IN THEIR OWN LAND...And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them IN THE LAND..."
=====> *Luke 1:31,32* "And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him THE THRONE OF HIS FATHER DAVID"
*ALERT=====>* David had an ACTUAL throne, and it WAS in Jerusalem. You can't take that LITERALLY, & then try to SPIRITUALIZE the throne that Christ will one day have just to try to support a teaching. It's literal, and it will be here on earth just as scripture teaches us.
=====> *Dan **2:44* "And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven SET UP A KINGDOM..."
=====> *Rev 5:10* "“And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign ON the earth.”
These next 2 verses speak clearly to the point, that Christ WILL rule, FROM Jerusalem @ the 2nd advent:
=====> *Matt **19:28* "the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
=====> "Matt 25:31* "...the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:"
And all the above _CIRCLES BACK_ to what was initially stated in your initial post when you asked whether or not Christians are to pray for God's kingdom to come, "on earth, as it is in heaven", *Matt 6,* because you CAN'T have a kingdom, till you inaugurate the KING, and THAT doesn't happen till He returns FROM heaven, WITH the raptured saints, TO earth to establish His kingdom...to which I say, GLORY TO GOD!
Much more can be brought out, but the above should prove sufficient to make the case for a *LITERAL* throne here on earth that comes to fruition at the close of the tribulation when Christ returns!
The secret rapture is not true. The one who is taken is taken to the marriage supper of the Lamb whose flesh are eaten by the fowls of the air, the ones who are "left behind" are the ones caught up to Him in the sky at His coming after the righteous are resurrected from the grave.(1 Thes 4:15-18)
You're deceived.
The Marriage Supper is different from the Supper of God. Secondly, at the 2nd coming of Christ, Christ remains on earth for His millennial reign here on earth...no believers are "caught up" and taken up in the sky. No disrespect, but all of the *SDA* is twisted/distorted. You are familiar with their origination, aren't you? A thorough study will yield a lot of information that should stop you in your tracks from heeding a/thing they say.
@@Kman. How is the marriage supper different from the supper of God? The marriage supper takes place before the wedding and only the wicked living when Jesus returns exist to feed the fowls of the air before the bride meets the Bridegroom in the air! There is literally no other supper to speak of, or other flesh to fill the fowls of the air. We are caught up to Him as He circles the earth after which you are correct that we reign on the earth with Him a 1000 yrs. I'm a child of God in the body of Christ that attends church on the sabbath with my SDA brethren. I know what we preach that is right and I know what we preach that is not.
@@stewiefy NO wedding has a wedding "SUPPER" before the ceremony...what are you talking about? At the Marriage Supper (where believers dine with Christ), is a JOYOUS occasion! At the Supper of God, that's where the corpse of everyone is being feasted on by vultures/eagles...and you think that is a time to REJOICE? smh. And you say we're caught up as He "CIRCLES THE EARTH"?!?! Strange doctrine...so strange, it's not biblical.
What you're TRYING to describe is as confusing as a termite in a yo-yo. My guess is you've subjected yourself to a BUNCH of different teachers, and you're mixing some of this, with some of that...what sounded good, with what has a chance of working...grabbing from here/there and trying to formulate things that are *NOT* found in the pages of scripture. Forgive me, but you're not grounded.
@@Kman. Mine did. Family had to choose chicken/steak/or fish beforehand. You and I have a very different understanding of the marriage supper of the Lamb.(Rev 19:9-21) That's ok, we are not saved by this understanding or lack thereof.(John 3:16-18) I think we're caught up to Him.(1 Thes 4:17) Plus yo yo's are plastic now. I only have one teacher.(Matt 23:8-10) Lastly yes huh.