Jimmy's comments about depression are interesting and nuanced. So it's a pity that when it comes to "men's issues" he falls back to lazy mainstream media narratives. Andrew Tate as "Top G" saw what happened to Peterson and weaponised it, becoming "a 14 year olds idea of masculinity". But I've also seen Andrew Tate "the man" having conversations with multiple hostile feminists and even porn stars, and by the end of the conversation they are mostly agreeing with what he says. There is a difference.
Jimmy Carr preaches that young men should "live in real life".. and then without pausing for breath he says.. "young men are obsessed by video games". This statement tells you that Jimmy Carr does not live in "real life" because that statement is such a broad generalisation that it simply cannot be (and is not) factually true in "real life". Jimmy Carr is as out of touch as any other millionaire. His arrogant stance of claiming to have the answers to other peoples mental health struggles is troubling and embarrassing. Shut up Jimmy. Thanks in advance 👍
The chemical imbalance theory of depression has been scientifically proven to be wrong in the last few years. The is no evidence of a link between depression and serotonin deficiency or anything of the sort. This view is a myth created by pharmaceutical companies. Don't believe me, believe the psychiatrists who have shown this to be the case. I would expect nonsense like this to be challenged on this podcast.
Well, to be fair, I don't think the guests get that much bigger than Jimmy, do you? I mean, if you got the Prime Minister on, or the Archbishop of Canterbury - or the Princess of Wales - I don't really think I would think they were "bigger" than Jimmy. Now if you got Xi Jin Pin or, if we could go back in time, Nelson Mandela - now they ARE bigger. Probably so is Raul Castro or Bill Gates. But anyone who's managed to get Jimmy on, should already consider themselves a success ....
often times I am asked whether depression is being sad all the time. I wish I was sad in my depressive phases. I wish I would feel anything except despair because it feels never ending how I feel. It is not sad. It is not anxious. It feels empty, deprived.
I think it's important to also understand that suicide is NOT always a symptom of depression. It certainly can be, but there are absolutely circumstances where one might choose to end their lives from a position of mental clarity and health. For example, suicide as a choice to end suffering from a degenerative condition, or to sacrifice one's life in pursuit of goal that would otherwise be unattainable. There are very few things in life that we can claim ownership more of than our own continued existence, and it would be wrong to dismiss out-of-hand a given individual's choice to end that existence. Western culture needs to decouple itself from the idiocy of religion, and recognize that our right to life necessarily includes our intrinsic right to end that life. Does mental illness make this a more difficult task to navigate, certainly, but the exact same thing could be said about homicide (and we somehow manage that).
I was not even remotely ready for Jimmy Carr being so profound, sharp minded and wise! Always loved the comedy but never really saw him speak in a serious manner. Absolutely blown away!
I had the same reaction. I grossly underestimated him, only thinking of him as a deliverer of jokes. Maybe too many of us view too many people as two-dimensional.
Comediams tend to be very intelligent and wise. Think about your funniest friends. They are almost always very clever and often successful. It takes a quick mind to be humorous.
Tate's views on women are what you get when you watch porn and are angry that's not your sex life - a new supermodel everyday. So he kind of preaches the incel thing.
Andrew has done more good for men's mental health than anyone else in the last few years. So it's a shame that on the subject of depression he chooses to outright dismiss him.
I'm 50 and this is the first time I've heard Jimmy Carr speak seriously.... and Wow I want to hear more of that Jimmy! He really hits many nails on many heads! Do you want to just 'exist' or do you want to 'live'?
He does this quite a bit if you look for it. Even on comedy podcasts he still speaks the same, when it feels completely out of character for the Podcast he still does it, it seems to stem alot from him being a father
What we need is resilience. I work promoting resilience. It is psychosocial and moving away from mental health models of me me me. It doesn't work. 50 years of this shit of individualism. The US is the most sick. And you all think Jimmy has the key of something. Everybody is a coach these days. If you don't market and promote yourself you are invisible. CEO doesn't invite experts like me to talk. He just wants to talk to celebs. Btw. Hate the term CEO. I know so many people who set up online and call themselves CEO of themselves!
It's not very deep. He has obviously thought about things a lot, but he just lays out conclusions without any explanation. So if you believe what he said, you're trusting that his reasoning is correct, because he doesn't give any. Like he says, idiots take the bible stories literally. Yet he doesn't go into it at all. He states Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, without expanding. It's very surface level conclusions that he's sharing. So if you believe it, you are essentially letting him tell you what to think, rather than his ideas being justified to you.
@timbradshaw5481 Fair play on all points. Perhaps I should have qualified that with ....I was surprised it was 'Jimmy Carr' having that level of thought. I'd never heard him deliver conclusions or speak in any depth beyond his obvious comedic talent. Given his delivery I would be surprised if he didn't have depth of thought to back it up though. Either way, its never about letting others tell you what to think, its the ideas that resonate with your existing thoughts and opening your mind to others.
@stopdropnroll I think people who are at the top of their field are usually very smart, even entertainers. And to be a comedian, you have to be really well spoken too, which Jimmy Carr is. Jimmy Carr is like this in interviews, comes across as very intelligent with well thought out ideas, I think he's done interviews with both Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan where he presents himself in a similar way.
Agreed@timbradshaw5481, good pointers and ideas. The irony is he quotes Christopher Hitchens. It's a good start, but we need more people expanding. A better example is if people look up Kenneth Williams from the 70s . His discussions and arguments are the step further than Jimmy's.
@Life_is_Goooooood People are allowed to be wrong on one thing or deviate in some way but otherwise be generally aligned with your views/interests and thereby provide value to you. How unfortunate for you that you immediately write off anyone who holds even one position you dislike.
@davidjb-750 I’ve been to the UK. I’ll take the US over it any day of the week. Sort out your problems over there first before you start yappin about us. Ok? Thanks.
You've really nailed the idea that a good interviewer doesn't ask too many questions, and allows the person being interviewed to fill in those silences with their own thoughts. Brilliant to hear Carr speak on these topics with such a free-flow.
I agree about his views on Tate. But he is clearly not a good-natured person, speaking in general. Jokingly saying that Romani's being systematically mordered and experimented on in WW2 was "a good thing"? And, no, it's not "just a joke". Anyone who says that doesn't actually understand how comedians work. Not saying he legit thinks what happened in WW2 was good per say. But he's certainly supportive of the current anti-Romani culture and even gnocldaI tendencies of Europeans today. Not to mention he has also been accussed of entering womens' changing rooms and staying there for no reason other than to enjoy the view. Everything about him rubs me the wrong way, even if he makes some good points.
@TD1237accused doesn't mean fact does it. Also who the fuck cares about his political views when lately politics is ALL corrupt. People like you need to worry about your leaders views and not a pissing comedian.
Yes, but no. He is a great critical thinker and his words easily resonate. At the same time he is a genius comedian. We do not want to lose that side. I admire his logical intelligence, but I adore his ruthless takedowns and amazing sense of humour. 👍
An the other people who view him as the person they should look up to haven't had a proper talk with themselves and looked inwards they would much rather have something that says we'll this is why I'm right, instead of actually working through their issues which causes more issues
That's pure gold . I'm the father of two teenage sons, there is a dearth of good advice to young men on what being a man is these days. This conversation should be being had more often, more openly . Well done both of you.
Being a man isn’t a rule book as such it’s learnt behaviour. It’s your time to teach your sons how your dad taught you and so forth. There are plenty of positive male and female role models out there. Living in reality is more important than ever. ❤
Corey Wayne has been a huge help to me and I’m 59 , I’d recommend his advice to any male especially young men dealing with life and relationships, above all value and love yourselfs
It was an important correction he made. For me the hardest part is looking normal on the outside and living what looks like a perfect life but having these internal battles I can't share with others.
@blackswanreselling true, 6 years ago after an intense manic episode that ended with me committed, i tried ending my life, i called up these hotlines and the absurdity of having to explain my issues to someone on a call who could not give two shits about condition is what brought me back from the brink of insanity and taking my life. It made me realise that I was not the one being crazy, the world was crazy and I was trying to fix it all myself.
He sounds comforting, I'd have needed an uncle like that. The contrast to his stage persona is surprising, even though I knew he was playing a role, it still caught me off guard 😊 I don't exactly agree that video games are a "substitution for a career". Careers aren't natural to humans, they're just the way we survive nowadays instead of hunting. I do agree it's a substitution, but I'm not sure what. Evolution is so slow that we're driven to do things not natural to us, some of which can be harmful.
@dylanlavillain7173 exact duplicate. All the same talking points in this clip. Even down to the video games comparison and Christipher Hitchens references 😂. Copy cat Tate - there’s a lot of them out there. He definitely watched Tate interviews before
You don't learn to shave from your father. You learn it from a RUclips video. This resonates with me, as I watch how to behave from Jimmy on a YT video !
My gen just learned it from telly, it's a pretty straightforward thing, really. Fathers had to teach it when people used to shave with oldschool razor blades. No need any teaching with disposables or machines unless you are a complete muppet.
I never liked his comedy that much but seeing him in interviews over the past few years, I am blown away by his breadth of knowledge and insightful observations.
i often find that (good) comedians are extremely smart. and they have to be. they need to know the world and understand people, know the lines of moral society so they can find the humor in it, then they have to be good storytellers too.
Jimmy Carr is the intelligent comedian Russell Brand wishes he was. And for all of Jimmy Carr's rude, racy, raunchy, and politically incorrect humor, Jimmy isn't out here full of hate, or prejudice, or trying to actually punch down - unlike some comedians out here, including ones I previously respected. When it comes to Jimmy Carr, it really is JUST A JOKE. And the more I hear him speak in interviews like this, the more fond of him I grow as person - as does my respect for him.
Even when he’s politicially incorrect he manages to make the joke itself the punchline in some way, like the fact that he can make the joke is the joke itself
@nightsgrow6575 yes, that is true too! Also, he sometimes enjoys scolding and teasing his audience - playfully, of course - for enjoying his really off-color jokes. I think a lot of the time, he's just pushing people's buttons. He tells offensive jokes just to tell them, to playfully offend... but with no actual animosity behind the joke. I consider myself "woke" - or as we were being called five years ago, a "social justice warrior" - both of which I wear as a badge of honor. But even being a woke social justice warrior toggaF who despises bigotry and misogyny, I love those kinds of jokes... as long as there's no actual animosity behind the words. If the comedian, or even just a regular person just trying to be funny/humorous, has actual prejudice or feelings of distaste/disgust towards the marginalized group that their "comedy" is about... then THAT is when I have a problem.
I guess intelligence, to you, is agreeing with your world views. And saying Brand is full of hate is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a while
I'd say Brand is smart and opportunistic. He also likes to hear himself speak to the point where he uses his eloquence to satisfy himself. Verbally fapping, if you will
Did CNN tell you to think that 😂 Most people who get their information from poor sources like MSM have no clue about Tate and what he actually encourages and influences young men to do.
Bullshit, this guy has no testosterone. Trump is not taken only as a rich person, but the leader and president. Andrew Tate is what every man that wants to achieve his goals and dreams should do.( Respect, Friends, Money and beautiful woman)
Jimmy Carr is such a fluent speaker with interesting insights. Sadly not that many people know this side of him - it's not the first talk I've seen him being part of, that was a great listen. Amazing stuff.
He talks out of his ass...literally the first thing out of his mouth "It's a disease" like depression is the fucking flu or something. I guess if you're impressed by a posh accent you'll be impressed by anything it says.
I wasn't the biggest Jimmy Carr fan until I heard him not doing comedy. What a wise and humane person he is. I've gone back, and I actually better appreciate his comedy, oddly enough. He mocks his more bone-headed hecklers for not understanding that it's comedy. How humbling to find out he was talking to me!
My friend is a priest, he once told me the church cannot answer your questions, but being a part of a community that attends church might help you meet people and in doing so give you a group where your questions might be answered.
Yep, a group that believes that the outgroup will burn in hell, and that lies to kids in order that they lose critical thinking ability so that the group won’t be challenged. A nice group indeed.
Because you lot caused most of this on the basis that your parents were too hard on you so you overcorrected with endless 'compassion'! I kid, but also I don't, because you're generation birthed the zoomers.
One of the best breakdowns of what is wrong with the modern world. I have a new respect for Jimmy Carr. I always thought he as a good comedian but this, as well.
Jimmy Carr is one of the funniest comedians of all time. But it is times like this when even the funniest people out there get serious when you realize the importance of something. That's what I like about him. He knows when there is a serious issue and gets right to addressing it.
Yup. Like a ankle sprain and a badly broken leg . No comparison. And sadness and unhappiness can be improved , clinical depression is extremely diffucult to treat if it's biological and not circumstancial
@nicopillay4059 That is a comedian, of which there are many types. Jimmy has the depth of thought and insight to go in a somewhat different direction. Not all comedians are or could do that. I think he would be well received if he chose a different path.
EdwinOudenes Just because something is obvious and nothing new.. talking about it all won't impress anyone. Common knowledge, taking the obvious for granted and being aware of the assumptions that we all agree on, that's one thing - but then also having the intelligence to organise and understand it, talk about it's implications and being able to articulate it, back it up and then transmit it to someone else. That's a real skill.
EdwinOudenesyeah people have been talking about this stuff for a few decades yet folks think Carr is making a grand discovery lol Folks should check out Jonathan Haidt if they think Carr is brilliant
Comedians are often the key go to people to cut through the nature of the fabric of society as they spend most of their time trying to find the humour in it, great to hear Jimmy Carr talking like this - first time i ever saw him was in Up the Creek, well before he was on the telly.
I love video games, always have. But, I had a rule that I’ve always stuck to. If I was playing on the PS and a mate messaged or called (back in the day) to go out, play footy, basketball and later go the pub. I’d always go, I’d never let video games get in the way of real social interaction.
Same here. Video games are my first love when it comes to entertainment and media, but I always like to go for a walk or go to lovely places in the countryside with my mum and brother, or the whole family if possible or meet up with my friends who also adore video games. I’ll always love them, probably a bit too much, but I do like getting out every now and again.
That goes with anything, and videogame are not special when it comes to forms of entertainment people escape reality from in. Before games people watched TV, and before that used books to get lost in alternate fantastical realities to experience things they would not irl, escapism has been a thing for ages, and is not the cause of what is happening these days, rather more a symptom.
What happened when every mate that was supposed to call to go out, loved video games so much that they never made the call? I think you know... Video games are an escape and that's where their danger comes from. The solution to this drug is not to drop it when someone calls. The solution to it it to set a limit for it (let's say 1 hr a day) and then be the person that makes the call. When you all put it on your mates to make that call to go out and socialize, it's just a matter of time before you become a game addict with a good excuse. If you are not one, already...
Thank you very much for this interview with Jimmy Carr. I haven't seen much of his work at all, just stumbled on this video because I was looking into this channel. I am completely in awe and blown away by Jimmy Carr's analysis and observations. He hits so many nails on the head. Mind blowing and eye opening. Thank you for letting your guests talk and you for asking such profound questions.
I listened for the first minute and YES! I’m so glad to hear someone influential talking like this and taking the action to actually correct the claim ”depression is thinking yourself too much”! Thinking yourself too much is a syptom of depression (illness), not the reason.
Absolutely. As someone with debilitating chronic illness, no I'm not miserable because of my thinking I'm miserable because my body is alwsys tired and dizzy!!
I have been PREACHING exactly what he just said. Comedians see the tragedy that is life and comedy is really the only true copium to outlast the negativity. Bless you both
Listening to guys like Jimmy Carr, Ricky Gervais and others speak so profoundly about such serious topics must get us to think what a strong correlation is between humor and intelligence.
@odeegrotsniffer4166 You’ve no idea what you’re talking about. The Office was derivative of The Larry Sanders Show, as even Gervais has admitted. To suggest it “changed comedy forever” only illustrates how little you know. Gervais is an objectively terrible stand up, and Carr isn’t much better. Truly great stand ups like Carlin or CK wipe the floor with them. But you have to have a few brain cells to get it.
This conversation encapsulates everything I've been thinking about over the last few years regarding where we're headed as a society. Wonderful clip, very thoughtful, thank you.
Honestly one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. My respect for Jimmy Carr just shot up!! I completely agree with him. Live in the moment. I’m 30 now and 2 years ago I deleted Facebook and instagram and started living now! Luckily I’ve never been into video games My life rules are respect others, look after yourself and love your woman.
@mylesg7278 They made the very same arguments about TV/Radio/Music and books like they do with videogames today, blame it for society's ills instead of trying to fix the real causes.
Jimmy's analysis of where we are today is spot on. I think kids should always be given the time to be kids, to be carefree and to play. That being said, we also need to acknowledge that your kid doesn't go to bed as a child one night, then wake up as an adult. Turning 18 might mean that they're legally an adult, but becoming an adult is a process that starts before 18 and crucially, continues after they are 18. If we're not giving them responsibilities, testing their capabilities and their limits and trusting them with at least some decisions, then they are not going to learn. If you're not actively parenting them and getting involved in their life, they will get their influences elsewhere and from people who are less than ideal as role models. Maybe the most important starting point is to ask ourselves how we felt as kids? How did our parents do? Can I apply the good parenting skills my mum and dad had, and make sure I pass that on to my kids? Equally, can I also use my experience of any negative aspects of their parenting as examples of what not to do? Even the best parents make mistakes, but using them to do better is how we all become better.
Stumbling upon this video has just made my day. Thank you. That was delicious to hear such common sense and wisdom. And Jimmy Carr just went up massively in my estimation. Happy to suscribe and hope to see more of this quality. (More of Mr Carr too, please).
I bet Carr doesn’t even know what Andrew Tates messaging even is. He’s just going by what the mainstream thinks of him . Any guy that watched Tate would nod his head in agreement at about 60% of what he says .. there’s a good reason why Tates messaging is alluring to young boys - he doesn’t sugarcoat everything with lame PC messaging
@brianmeen2158 there’s plenty better role models than Andrew Tate for young lads. The guys a loser, I know exactly what you’re gonna say to that comment but I don’t care. Anyone who needs to turn to fast cars and flashy things to prove their sense of worth is a loser.
@autograndeunlimited If we can't think of better role models than Andrew Tate we're in big trouble. I think he's a little man in a big body and a bigger mouth. He's a terrible role model and i certainly wouldn't like my son being influenced by him. I'm very concerned about truth that's so important. If you want truth then you should be influenced by Scientists and intellectuals. If you want someone more popular then maybe follow people who you aspire to be like in that field. I think Andrew Tate has brainwashed a lot of young men and is a danger to society. I can absolutely see why there is a space for someone like him, I just think it's an unfortunate replacement to the bullshit young men are fed through modern media.
@owenselby3108 sometimes it does. There are 2 different kinds of depression, chemical, situational or a combo. Like you can have a bereavement that triggers a bout of depression but the depression lasts 3 years and is clinically diagnosed and required meds and therapy. There can be a trigger and it can be situational and still be a clinical issue -that's valid
@owenselby3108 he seems to say all depression is chemical and not caused by circumstances at all and that is one kind of depression but it isn't the only one. There are environmental factors which make you more vulnerable/predisposed to depression -poverty being one. Also many with terminal illnesses become depressed. Situational depression is a thing and just because it has a obvious trigger doesn't mean it's not a mental illness. Things can be understandable and still be chronic. Like is someone was abused for a decade in childhood severely, has a long history with sexual abuse and d/a relationships has a substance abuse problem and is homeless and stuff no one would be surprised they are depressed, and yes prob if they weren't homeless and poor and had suffered abuse and bereavement they prob wouldn't be depressed but if they are self harming and suicidal and have attempted before, yes it is still classed as depression, just as a example
@owenselby3108 depression is also common in people who are unemployed. If depression was never situational, bereavement, poverty, unemployment wouldn't be common cited triggers for depression but they are..
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Jimmy's comments about depression are interesting and nuanced. So it's a pity that when it comes to "men's issues" he falls back to lazy mainstream media narratives.
Andrew Tate as "Top G" saw what happened to Peterson and weaponised it, becoming "a 14 year olds idea of masculinity". But I've also seen Andrew Tate "the man" having conversations with multiple hostile feminists and even porn stars, and by the end of the conversation they are mostly agreeing with what he says. There is a difference.
id argue as well that tv has got worse so gamin is at least putting something out
Jimmy Carr preaches that young men should "live in real life".. and then without pausing for breath he says.. "young men are obsessed by video games". This statement tells you that Jimmy Carr does not live in "real life" because that statement is such a broad generalisation that it simply cannot be (and is not) factually true in "real life". Jimmy Carr is as out of touch as any other millionaire. His arrogant stance of claiming to have the answers to other peoples mental health struggles is troubling and embarrassing. Shut up Jimmy. Thanks in advance 👍
The chemical imbalance theory of depression has been scientifically proven to be wrong in the last few years. The is no evidence of a link between depression and serotonin deficiency or anything of the sort. This view is a myth created by pharmaceutical companies. Don't believe me, believe the psychiatrists who have shown this to be the case. I would expect nonsense like this to be challenged on this podcast.
Well, to be fair, I don't think the guests get that much bigger than Jimmy, do you? I mean, if you got the Prime Minister on, or the Archbishop of Canterbury - or the Princess of Wales - I don't really think I would think they were "bigger" than Jimmy. Now if you got Xi Jin Pin or, if we could go back in time, Nelson Mandela - now they ARE bigger. Probably so is Raul Castro or Bill Gates. But anyone who's managed to get Jimmy on, should already consider themselves a success ....
Jimmy’s willingness to stop the conversation to clearly demarcate depression from sadness is commendable
Sadness is like a cold.
Depression is like cancer.
Anyone who suffers from depression knows this.
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People who think that depression is just melancholy
Have never actually seen a clinically depressed person
often times I am asked whether depression is being sad all the time. I wish I was sad in my depressive phases. I wish I would feel anything except despair because it feels never ending how I feel. It is not sad. It is not anxious. It feels empty, deprived.
I think it's important to also understand that suicide is NOT always a symptom of depression. It certainly can be, but there are absolutely circumstances where one might choose to end their lives from a position of mental clarity and health. For example, suicide as a choice to end suffering from a degenerative condition, or to sacrifice one's life in pursuit of goal that would otherwise be unattainable. There are very few things in life that we can claim ownership more of than our own continued existence, and it would be wrong to dismiss out-of-hand a given individual's choice to end that existence. Western culture needs to decouple itself from the idiocy of religion, and recognize that our right to life necessarily includes our intrinsic right to end that life. Does mental illness make this a more difficult task to navigate, certainly, but the exact same thing could be said about homicide (and we somehow manage that).
"A 14yr old boy's idea of what masculinity looks like". Spot on.
That's how I see Tom Cruise action films.
And no surprise that 14 year old boys are his biggest fanbase.
He is fighting the government's plan to make people weaker.
And then... 14 yr olds used to be baby sitters; now they need baby sitters.
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I was not even remotely ready for Jimmy Carr being so profound, sharp minded and wise! Always loved the comedy but never really saw him speak in a serious manner. Absolutely blown away!
I had the same reaction. I grossly underestimated him, only thinking of him as a deliverer of jokes. Maybe too many of us view too many people as two-dimensional.
i agree. I've also found some comedians to be profoundly thoughtful and critical of the world.
Just found out he used to be a therapist, made soooo much sense. Must have been a good one too.
I don’t really enjoy his comedy, I find him to be a bit too crude, however he is quite impressive here and seems like a wise man.
Comediams tend to be very intelligent and wise. Think about your funniest friends. They are almost always very clever and often successful. It takes a quick mind to be humorous.
"A gentleman is never rude by accident." Not surprised it came from Hitchens. Brilliant.
It didn't.
I like how he dismisses andrew tate with one line, and moves right on. That's the way it should be, Jimmy Carr is a champion
Tate's views on women are what you get when you watch porn and are angry that's not your sex life - a new supermodel everyday. So he kind of preaches the incel thing.
Andrew has done more good for men's mental health than anyone else in the last few years. So it's a shame that on the subject of depression he chooses to outright dismiss him.
Thanks for the 14 year old boys view. Report back when you turn 18
@CBGSR ironic given you’ve just replied like a 14 year old…
Classic example of a keyboard warrior with no actual arguments to back himself up.
@mrjawbones360 He has done horrible damage to it.
I'm 50 and this is the first time I've heard Jimmy Carr speak seriously.... and Wow I want to hear more of that Jimmy! He really hits many nails on many heads! Do you want to just 'exist' or do you want to 'live'?
Same, he raised my eyebrows there with his finger of power.
He does this quite a bit if you look for it. Even on comedy podcasts he still speaks the same, when it feels completely out of character for the Podcast he still does it, it seems to stem alot from him being a father
What we need is resilience. I work promoting resilience. It is psychosocial and moving away from mental health models of me me me. It doesn't work. 50 years of this shit of individualism. The US is the most sick. And you all think Jimmy has the key of something. Everybody is a coach these days. If you don't market and promote yourself you are invisible. CEO doesn't invite experts like me to talk. He just wants to talk to celebs. Btw. Hate the term CEO. I know so many people who set up online and call themselves CEO of themselves!
Most successful comedians are pretty smart people. Jimmy clearly is.
Check out his first interview with Steven. It’s again a very insightful Jimmy.
"14 year olds used to be babysitters ...now they need babysitters" ...OUCH. TOO TRUE.
There is a market for that & some have found it for $$$ etc. personal reasons.
It’s so true and that’s the sad reality..
Yeah when 14 year olds used to be babysitters bad bad shit happened. Look it up.
@DNOPLAYSGAMES Well said, so many dont look behind the simple headline
When adults babysit, bad shit has happened… worse…. Look it up
14 Year olds used to be babysitters and now they need one. That line hit much harder then it probably should have. Great Interview
Enjoy your presentation enormously. No shouting, no over talking, no ego trips, just conversation conversation.
Thank you.
Theres ALWAYS one of these comments lol
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No ego trips??? 🤡 Guy is a snooty toss pot. State of him.
@noahbixnash Consistency.
That's because he's not a white American
Blown away by Jimmy Carr’s depth of mind here. Well done lads.
It's not very deep. He has obviously thought about things a lot, but he just lays out conclusions without any explanation. So if you believe what he said, you're trusting that his reasoning is correct, because he doesn't give any.
Like he says, idiots take the bible stories literally. Yet he doesn't go into it at all. He states Trump is a poor man's idea of a rich man, without expanding.
It's very surface level conclusions that he's sharing. So if you believe it, you are essentially letting him tell you what to think, rather than his ideas being justified to you.
@timbradshaw5481 Fair play on all points. Perhaps I should have qualified that with ....I was surprised it was 'Jimmy Carr' having that level of thought. I'd never heard him deliver conclusions or speak in any depth beyond his obvious comedic talent. Given his delivery I would be surprised if he didn't have depth of thought to back it up though. Either way, its never about letting others tell you what to think, its the ideas that resonate with your existing thoughts and opening your mind to others.
@stopdropnroll I think people who are at the top of their field are usually very smart, even entertainers. And to be a comedian, you have to be really well spoken too, which Jimmy Carr is.
Jimmy Carr is like this in interviews, comes across as very intelligent with well thought out ideas, I think he's done interviews with both Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan where he presents himself in a similar way.
@timbradshaw5481 I agree to what you say. Well said.
Agreed@timbradshaw5481, good pointers and ideas. The irony is he quotes Christopher Hitchens. It's a good start, but we need more people expanding. A better example is if people look up Kenneth Williams from the 70s . His discussions and arguments are the step further than Jimmy's.
We need to see this side of Jimmy more.
He's pro gun control. Not sure you want to be taking advice on manhood from this guy. But you do you.
@Life_is_Goooooood People are allowed to be wrong on one thing or deviate in some way but otherwise be generally aligned with your views/interests and thereby provide value to you. How unfortunate for you that you immediately write off anyone who holds even one position you dislike.
He’s from the UK. He sees the madness going on in America compared to the rest of the developed countries in the world.
@davidjb-750 I’ve been to the UK. I’ll take the US over it any day of the week. Sort out your problems over there first before you start yappin about us. Ok? Thanks.
@Life_is_Gooooooodyappin??? You brought it up ya daft cant
You've really nailed the idea that a good interviewer doesn't ask too many questions, and allows the person being interviewed to fill in those silences with their own thoughts. Brilliant to hear Carr speak on these topics with such a free-flow.
It helps that Jimmy understands the human condition. Yes, he is rich, but I don't think he's out of touch.
Jimmy needs to do more serious talks like this, he's very good!
Its not a surprise, its great to see the serious side to some comedian, they are often very intelligent.
He's actually a trained therapist
I agree about his views on Tate. But he is clearly not a good-natured person, speaking in general. Jokingly saying that Romani's being systematically mordered and experimented on in WW2 was "a good thing"? And, no, it's not "just a joke". Anyone who says that doesn't actually understand how comedians work. Not saying he legit thinks what happened in WW2 was good per say. But he's certainly supportive of the current anti-Romani culture and even gnocldaI tendencies of Europeans today. Not to mention he has also been accussed of entering womens' changing rooms and staying there for no reason other than to enjoy the view. Everything about him rubs me the wrong way, even if he makes some good points.
@TD1237accused doesn't mean fact does it. Also who the fuck cares about his political views when lately politics is ALL corrupt. People like you need to worry about your leaders views and not a pissing comedian.
Yes, but no. He is a great critical thinker and his words easily resonate. At the same time he is a genius comedian. We do not want to lose that side. I admire his logical intelligence, but I adore his ruthless takedowns and amazing sense of humour. 👍
I met Jimmy one day in Belfast at the airport, he was an absolute gentleman. He had me laughing the whole queue to the flight. Lovely fella!
You were very lucky.
@Mark70609 Yes I knew that as soon as I left him, great person!
I met him in person as well.
He was very rude to me, but I deserved it, and he was doing it on purpose.
What a gentleman!
(j/k, never met him)
I always wonder how much of a famous person's interactions with individuals is their public character. A lot of folks use their job as an identity.
Lucky you!!!
''Andrew Tate is like a 14 years boy idea of what masculinity might look like'' This.
An the other people who view him as the person they should look up to haven't had a proper talk with themselves and looked inwards they would much rather have something that says we'll this is why I'm right, instead of actually working through their issues which causes more issues
Damm 14 year olds are more manly than grown ups these days 😂
@Jamestaylor1-t9d Tate is probably better for youngsters to look up to than these effeminate clowns...
@HasanIslam-xj4klyour babysitter know you’re online right now?
@HasanIslam-xj4klofc your name is Hassan Islam,
Go touch some grass, your broke idol is the most famous failure of 2024
“14-year-olds used to BE babysitters. Now they NEED babysitters.” OMG that hit home.
That's pure gold . I'm the father of two teenage sons, there is a dearth of good advice to young men on what being a man is these days. This conversation should be being had more often, more openly . Well done both of you.
Being a man isn’t a rule book as such it’s learnt behaviour. It’s your time to teach your sons how your dad taught you and so forth. There are plenty of positive male and female role models out there.
Living in reality is more important than ever. ❤
Being a good man means having all the qualities of a good father. Loving, strong, wise, intelligent, compasionate, etc
@ethnicalbert These traits are human, and a healthy society.
Corey Wayne has been a huge help to me and I’m 59 , I’d recommend his advice to any male especially young men dealing with life and relationships, above all value and love yourselfs
@bakerausI'm no going to teach my sons what I was taught. At all.
I've suffered with mental health since being 14 or maybe even before, I'm 36 now. Nice to hear Jimmy being so understanding.
Keep going mate. ❤
@David81515 thanks mate. Much appreciated
It was an important correction he made. For me the hardest part is looking normal on the outside and living what looks like a perfect life but having these internal battles I can't share with others.
If only we received this level of understanding from those who work in support services that are supposed to help us deal with these issues.
@blackswanreselling true, 6 years ago after an intense manic episode that ended with me committed, i tried ending my life, i called up these hotlines and the absurdity of having to explain my issues to someone on a call who could not give two shits about condition is what brought me back from the brink of insanity and taking my life. It made me realise that I was not the one being crazy, the world was crazy and I was trying to fix it all myself.
Jimmy Carr, a stand-up comedian teaching youngsters to be stand-up people. And how to banter like a boss. Thankyou.
And how to evade tax! What a stand up guy
@criticalcommenterno one cares
He sounds comforting, I'd have needed an uncle like that. The contrast to his stage persona is surprising, even though I knew he was playing a role, it still caught me off guard 😊
I don't exactly agree that video games are a "substitution for a career". Careers aren't natural to humans, they're just the way we survive nowadays instead of hunting. I do agree it's a substitution, but I'm not sure what.
Evolution is so slow that we're driven to do things not natural to us, some of which can be harmful.
Jimmy Carr is such an intelligent and wise guy, thanks for inviting him. Pleasure to listen to this interview.
Jimmy's so smart and articulates things brilliantly
He is exactly like Andrew Tate but just the posh version
True he is fantastic and should stop plastic surgery… he looked great before.
@jboogienohoodie7477 far from it
@dylanlavillain7173 exact duplicate. All the same talking points in this clip. Even down to the video games comparison and Christipher Hitchens references 😂. Copy cat Tate - there’s a lot of them out there. He definitely watched Tate interviews before
Tate for lads who got a 2:2 at university
Nature abhors a vacuum. You know who else abhors a vacuum, my dog. - Norm MacDonald
Okay, that was very funny 😅
rename your dog and you're set
that was a bigtime pseudo-intellectual line that other pseudos will love. its means jacksquat
@Gordpatmac oooh we're angry today, aren't we ? Take. A. Deeeep. Breath. There... Better ?
Yeah he does!
Wise, profound, informed, intelligent, aware, human, genuine, honest...... We done and well said Mr Carr
Indeed. All humbling words
He show his true colours during pland-emic. He is scumbag, but smart one.
@303machineOk buddy 👍
@303machinewe found the anti vaxxer, Karen who can't take a joke.
You don't learn to shave from your father. You learn it from a RUclips video.
This resonates with me, as I watch how to behave from Jimmy on a YT video !
My gen just learned it from telly, it's a pretty straightforward thing, really. Fathers had to teach it when people used to shave with oldschool razor blades. No need any teaching with disposables or machines unless you are a complete muppet.
@holydamienit’s not just about stopping injury mate. It’s about having your father teach you things.
@Aaron-x8j yeah, sure, like literature, history, politics and how to be a decent person.
@h@holydamienI mean. Yes?? But also shaving is also okay? I don’t know what you’re on about 😂
I never liked his comedy that much but seeing him in interviews over the past few years, I am blown away by his breadth of knowledge and insightful observations.
He still be like a child and comiker for Childs.
He is exactly like Andrew Tate just the posh version
1 cup of sugar per 2 cups flour
@jboogienohoodie7477take has no reflection on himself
@jboogienohoodie7477not even remotely close
Nice Christopher Hitchens reference
i adore any christopher hitchens reference
It's from Oscar Wilde though
@darkcnotion christopher hitchens was oscar wilde’s biggest influence
@lordfarquard9902 oscar wilde had pictures of christopher hitchens on his wall
@LeifCoffieldhahaha
I am very impressed with jimmy Carr. I didn't know he had such depth to him. Great conversation.
He’s a very very clever guy
He's really opened up over the last few years. He talks about it in other interviews.
Have a look at his "Blocks" podcast with Neal Brennan
He didn't go in depth on covid issues. Just said if you didn't roll up your sleeve you're an idiot.
i often find that (good) comedians are extremely smart. and they have to be. they need to know the world and understand people, know the lines of moral society so they can find the humor in it, then they have to be good storytellers too.
@mattoniy2840 Till it comes to an experimental vaccine.
"A gentleman is never rude by accident." Brilliant.
Never heard him be sincere before. This was really nice.
Tons of gems in this
Jimmy Carr is the intelligent comedian Russell Brand wishes he was. And for all of Jimmy Carr's rude, racy, raunchy, and politically incorrect humor, Jimmy isn't out here full of hate, or prejudice, or trying to actually punch down - unlike some comedians out here, including ones I previously respected. When it comes to Jimmy Carr, it really is JUST A JOKE. And the more I hear him speak in interviews like this, the more fond of him I grow as person - as does my respect for him.
Even when he’s politicially incorrect he manages to make the joke itself the punchline in some way, like the fact that he can make the joke is the joke itself
@nightsgrow6575 yes, that is true too! Also, he sometimes enjoys scolding and teasing his audience - playfully, of course - for enjoying his really off-color jokes. I think a lot of the time, he's just pushing people's buttons. He tells offensive jokes just to tell them, to playfully offend... but with no actual animosity behind the joke. I consider myself "woke" - or as we were being called five years ago, a "social justice warrior" - both of which I wear as a badge of honor. But even being a woke social justice warrior toggaF who despises bigotry and misogyny, I love those kinds of jokes... as long as there's no actual animosity behind the words. If the comedian, or even just a regular person just trying to be funny/humorous, has actual prejudice or feelings of distaste/disgust towards the marginalized group that their "comedy" is about... then THAT is when I have a problem.
I guess intelligence, to you, is agreeing with your world views. And saying Brand is full of hate is one of the most ridiculous statements I've heard in a while
I'd say Brand is smart and opportunistic. He also likes to hear himself speak to the point where he uses his eloquence to satisfy himself. Verbally fapping, if you will
Scanned that as Russell Howard, not Brand, nearly ranted.
Having re-read? Couldn't agree more.
WOW! I've never seen Jimmy Carr in this light and with this much sincerity and insight. Great conversation
The description of Trump and Tate were spot on ! That’s the difference when an intelligent and insightful person takes charge. God bless Jimmy Carr
Did CNN tell you to think that 😂
Most people who get their information from poor sources like MSM have no clue about Tate and what he actually encourages and influences young men to do.
Bullshit, this guy has no testosterone. Trump is not taken only as a rich person, but the leader and president. Andrew Tate is what every man that wants to achieve his goals and dreams should do.( Respect, Friends, Money and beautiful woman)
It's a reductionist approach. It's not quite accurate but it is a funny simplistic line to draw 🤷🏻♂️
Connor McGregor was once what a drunk man thinks a warrior should act like, if you want a third example
Wow hid my reply, so much for free speech..
Jimmy Carr is such a fluent speaker with interesting insights. Sadly not that many people know this side of him - it's not the first talk I've seen him being part of, that was a great listen. Amazing stuff.
He talks out of his ass...literally the first thing out of his mouth "It's a disease" like depression is the fucking flu or something.
I guess if you're impressed by a posh accent you'll be impressed by anything it says.
He's half right, sure, its modern tech substituting real life, but it is government making real life harder
I love this side of Jimmy Carr and hope we see more of it. Be a mensch.
What's a Mench?
@torsion2 A person of honor, someone worthy of respect.
@torsion2 german for human
@torsion2 an ubermensch
I wasn't the biggest Jimmy Carr fan until I heard him not doing comedy. What a wise and humane person he is. I've gone back, and I actually better appreciate his comedy, oddly enough. He mocks his more bone-headed hecklers for not understanding that it's comedy. How humbling to find out he was talking to me!
My friend is a priest, he once told me the church cannot answer your questions, but being a part of a community that attends church might help you meet people and in doing so give you a group where your questions might be answered.
Great advice.
Yep, a group that believes that the outgroup will burn in hell, and that lies to kids in order that they lose critical thinking ability so that the group won’t be challenged. A nice group indeed.
@wanderingtravellerAB99 depends on the church.... my friend is a Canon of the Episcopalian faith...
I'm all for being part of a community, but I'd prefer to stay away from one that brainwashes people (especially children) with superstitious nonsense.
Is your priest friend an atheist?
As a Gen X teacher, parent, mentor, I found this insightful and resonant.
Good for you
Because you lot caused most of this on the basis that your parents were too hard on you so you overcorrected with endless 'compassion'! I kid, but also I don't, because you're generation birthed the zoomers.
Gen x teacher here to agree.
Who are you a mentor to?
If you consider yourself a mentor and see Carr as insightful then you may have issues. This is the same man who openly endorsed BLM in his comedy.
One of the best breakdowns of what is wrong with the modern world. I have a new respect for Jimmy Carr. I always thought he as a good comedian but this, as well.
Holy shit I need more of this version of Jimmy Carr
Jimmy Carr is one of the funniest comedians of all time. But it is times like this when even the funniest people out there get serious when you realize the importance of something. That's what I like about him. He knows when there is a serious issue and gets right to addressing it.
This man is spot on! Wow!
I’m sitting here, at 8am, on a balcony watching the sunrise and this video pops up. Just marvellous 🤩
this was one of the best yet jimmy is brilliant.
Honestly, one of the best videos out there. Jimmy Carr is amazing on this: incredibly deep, sincere, genuine and 100% spot on.
that was the first interview I have seen with Jimmy Carr, which was on a more serious note. I really enjoyed it, props.
He’s really good at expressing himself so clearly and getting his thoughts across
that was a great point about sadness vs depression.
Yup. Like a ankle sprain and a badly broken leg . No comparison. And sadness and unhappiness can be improved , clinical depression is extremely diffucult to treat if it's biological and not circumstancial
When the comedian has more life knowledge than my university professors
I need to listen to the full episode, this is an interesting episode. Dropping gems 🎉
Damn- I’m seeing Jimmy Carr this Wednesday in Portland, Maine.
-very psyched
Great conversation. Jimmy Carr is so intelligent and really sends a great message. Love his humour too!,,
Thank you
When he’s had enough of doing the one-liners, Jimmy has a serious comedy career ahead of him as a philosophical social commentator.
That's called a comedian
@nicopillay4059 That is a comedian, of which there are many types. Jimmy has the depth of thought and insight to go in a somewhat different direction. Not all comedians are or could do that. I think he would be well received if he chose a different path.
But that’s what comedians do. Look at Bill Hicks.
EdwinOudenes
Just because something is obvious and nothing new.. talking about it all won't impress anyone.
Common knowledge, taking the obvious for granted and being aware of the assumptions that we all agree on, that's one thing - but then also having the intelligence to organise and understand it, talk about it's implications and being able to articulate it, back it up and then transmit it to someone else. That's a real skill.
EdwinOudenesyeah people have been talking about this stuff for a few decades yet folks think Carr is making a grand discovery lol
Folks should check out Jonathan Haidt if they think Carr is brilliant
Comedians are often the key go to people to cut through the nature of the fabric of society as they spend most of their time trying to find the humour in it, great to hear Jimmy Carr talking like this - first time i ever saw him was in Up the Creek, well before he was on the telly.
Isn't it a sad state of affairs that we find wisdom from comedians and comedy from our " wise leaders"?
Sad to hear him use his stage presence to mock those who refused to be lab rats.
@canadianroot ❄️
@BAM5636 Talk about completely missing the point. JC was a shill for the big money. He's the ❄you 🐒
Good comedians are usually acute observers of life.
This needs millions more views. Get it shared and liked.
Great comedians are great Philosophers
I love video games, always have. But, I had a rule that I’ve always stuck to. If I was playing on the PS and a mate messaged or called (back in the day) to go out, play footy, basketball and later go the pub. I’d always go, I’d never let video games get in the way of real social interaction.
Yep. They're a great backup fun.
100%, we all have free time and i'd rather play some games than watch a TV series. But social life comes first.
Same here. Video games are my first love when it comes to entertainment and media, but I always like to go for a walk or go to lovely places in the countryside with my mum and brother, or the whole family if possible or meet up with my friends who also adore video games. I’ll always love them, probably a bit too much, but I do like getting out every now and again.
That goes with anything, and videogame are not special when it comes to forms of entertainment people escape reality from in. Before games people watched TV, and before that used books to get lost in alternate fantastical realities to experience things they would not irl, escapism has been a thing for ages, and is not the cause of what is happening these days, rather more a symptom.
What happened when every mate that was supposed to call to go out, loved video games so much that they never made the call? I think you know... Video games are an escape and that's where their danger comes from. The solution to this drug is not to drop it when someone calls. The solution to it it to set a limit for it (let's say 1 hr a day) and then be the person that makes the call. When you all put it on your mates to make that call to go out and socialize, it's just a matter of time before you become a game addict with a good excuse. If you are not one, already...
Incredibly powerful piece! I never thought I'd hear such logic and clarity from Jimmy Carr
Really fantastic and thought provoking interview. Jimmy Carr’s appearances on DOAC are always great.
Thank you very much for this interview with Jimmy Carr. I haven't seen much of his work at all, just stumbled on this video because I was looking into this channel. I am completely in awe and blown away by Jimmy Carr's analysis and observations. He hits so many nails on the head. Mind blowing and eye opening.
Thank you for letting your guests talk and you for asking such profound questions.
Thank you gentlemen for this Video . Well articulated .
wow, i love Jim Carr even more now. never heard him talk seriously, and he is amazing.
Some really well thought out points there
Best 9 minutes I've heard in a while!
This is insanely good. I like this version of Jimmy Carr.
This clips is potential the best thing I’ve ever seen on RUclips!
These - plural
@royfr8136*clip - singular
*potentially
@royfr8136 clip - singular
I listened for the first minute and YES! I’m so glad to hear someone influential talking like this and taking the action to actually correct the claim ”depression is thinking yourself too much”! Thinking yourself too much is a syptom of depression (illness), not the reason.
Absolutely. As someone with debilitating chronic illness, no I'm not miserable because of my thinking I'm miserable because my body is alwsys tired and dizzy!!
Great conversation.
What an absolutely amazing video. So insightful, I had no idea Jimmy Carr was this brilliant.
I have been PREACHING exactly what he just said. Comedians see the tragedy that is life and comedy is really the only true copium to outlast the negativity. Bless you both
Listening to guys like Jimmy Carr, Ricky Gervais and others speak so profoundly about such serious topics must get us to think what a strong correlation is between humor and intelligence.
Except neither are very good stand-ups. Put them against people like Carlin and it's obvoius.
Some comics are quite intelligent. Some aren't. That's a broad statement.
@odeegrotsniffer4166 You’ve no idea what you’re talking about. The Office was derivative of The Larry Sanders Show, as even Gervais has admitted. To suggest it “changed comedy forever” only illustrates how little you know. Gervais is an objectively terrible stand up, and Carr isn’t much better. Truly great stand ups like Carlin or CK wipe the floor with them. But you have to have a few brain cells to get it.
@bl00m1mgt0n If objectively, by what measure?
I think maybe the connection is with empathy as much as intelligence. We laugh because we know how the subject of the joke feels.
Wow. What a man.
This conversation encapsulates everything I've been thinking about over the last few years regarding where we're headed as a society. Wonderful clip, very thoughtful, thank you.
Where are we heading?
Jimmy dropping serious gems everywhere 😮
Seems like a pretty smart man.
@TaneliLehtonen11235 a pretty smart woman
@janwedeler828 What?
Not so bright when it came to the covid vaxx.
He’s very clever. Not only Oxford grad but just clever in general
Wise decent man. Wish we had lots of this guy , the world would be much better. Love his beautiful English accent.
Absolutely brilliant discussion
Honestly one of the best videos I’ve ever watched. My respect for Jimmy Carr just shot up!!
I completely agree with him. Live in the moment. I’m 30 now and 2 years ago I deleted Facebook and instagram and started living now!
Luckily I’ve never been into video games
My life rules are respect others, look after yourself and love your woman.
Video games is the symptom not the cause. But good for you man.
@mylesg7278 They made the very same arguments about TV/Radio/Music and books like they do with videogames today, blame it for society's ills instead of trying to fix the real causes.
Respect bro. I hope youre well . Nice comment you wrote.
It’s using the games as a proxy, not the games necessarily themselves. And the displacement, six hours of gaming is six hours less of real life
"Fame and Fortune have replaced heaven" -----that hit hard.
Wow! What a valuable conversation. Never heard Jimmy Carr speak seriously before ….. that was so refreshing to listen to.
Thank you! ❤️
Jimmy Carr is so eloquent he speaks so much truth
Wasnt expecting Hitchens, respect.
Yeah didn’t know he has said that
Jimmy's analysis of where we are today is spot on. I think kids should always be given the time to be kids, to be carefree and to play. That being said, we also need to acknowledge that your kid doesn't go to bed as a child one night, then wake up as an adult. Turning 18 might mean that they're legally an adult, but becoming an adult is a process that starts before 18 and crucially, continues after they are 18.
If we're not giving them responsibilities, testing their capabilities and their limits and trusting them with at least some decisions, then they are not going to learn. If you're not actively parenting them and getting involved in their life, they will get their influences elsewhere and from people who are less than ideal as role models.
Maybe the most important starting point is to ask ourselves how we felt as kids? How did our parents do? Can I apply the good parenting skills my mum and dad had, and make sure I pass that on to my kids? Equally, can I also use my experience of any negative aspects of their parenting as examples of what not to do? Even the best parents make mistakes, but using them to do better is how we all become better.
So profound. I did not expect this from Jimmy.
jimmy carr isn't just a comic genius. nice to see this side of him.
Jimmy Cars mind is a gift for us all.
calm down
@kevinb9830 they seem pretty calm compared to you mate
@snoozyq9576 Yes, you're right.
Deep and wonderful, how surprising and impressive Jimmy is.
Bro your clips rock!
Jimmy has nailed this one, spot on mate.
Stumbling upon this video has just made my day. Thank you. That was delicious to hear such common sense and wisdom. And Jimmy Carr just went up massively in my estimation.
Happy to suscribe and hope to see more of this quality. (More of Mr Carr too, please).
I'm slightly taken back by Jimmy's eloquence and who and what he cites. Didn't expect that at all.
Was great to hear Jimmy Carr talk some truth about Andrew Tate. A 14yr olds idea of what masculinity looks like - BANG ON!
I bet Carr doesn’t even know what Andrew Tates messaging even is. He’s just going by what the mainstream thinks of him . Any guy that watched Tate would nod his head in agreement at about 60% of what he says .. there’s a good reason why Tates messaging is alluring to young boys - he doesn’t sugarcoat everything with lame PC messaging
@brianmeen2158 there’s plenty better role models than Andrew Tate for young lads. The guys a loser, I know exactly what you’re gonna say to that comment but I don’t care. Anyone who needs to turn to fast cars and flashy things to prove their sense of worth is a loser.
@brianmeen2158it's mad how successful the smear campaign against the Tates has been. Relentless
@HelloJamesBond like who? how is he a loser? of course you don't care b/c you don't care about the truth. its not about the fast cars or flashy things
@autograndeunlimited If we can't think of better role models than Andrew Tate we're in big trouble. I think he's a little man in a big body and a bigger mouth. He's a terrible role model and i certainly wouldn't like my son being influenced by him. I'm very concerned about truth that's so important. If you want truth then you should be influenced by Scientists and intellectuals. If you want someone more popular then maybe follow people who you aspire to be like in that field. I think Andrew Tate has brainwashed a lot of young men and is a danger to society. I can absolutely see why there is a space for someone like him, I just think it's an unfortunate replacement to the bullshit young men are fed through modern media.
I think I needed to hear this, thank you so much
This is such a wonderfully productive conversation. Massive respect for Jimmy for his takes here.
Depression can be caused by circumstances
That would imply that circumstances can cure it, which is Jimmy’s point
@owenselby3108 sometimes it does. There are 2 different kinds of depression, chemical, situational or a combo. Like you can have a bereavement that triggers a bout of depression but the depression lasts 3 years and is clinically diagnosed and required meds and therapy. There can be a trigger and it can be situational and still be a clinical issue -that's valid
@owenselby3108 he seems to say all depression is chemical and not caused by circumstances at all and that is one kind of depression but it isn't the only one. There are environmental factors which make you more vulnerable/predisposed to depression -poverty being one. Also many with terminal illnesses become depressed. Situational depression is a thing and just because it has a obvious trigger doesn't mean it's not a mental illness. Things can be understandable and still be chronic. Like is someone was abused for a decade in childhood severely, has a long history with sexual abuse and d/a relationships has a substance abuse problem and is homeless and stuff no one would be surprised they are depressed, and yes prob if they weren't homeless and poor and had suffered abuse and bereavement they prob wouldn't be depressed but if they are self harming and suicidal and have attempted before, yes it is still classed as depression, just as a example
@owenselby3108 depression is also common in people who are unemployed. If depression was never situational, bereavement, poverty, unemployment wouldn't be common cited triggers for depression but they are..
@owenselby3108 Unfortunately, the damage can't always be reversed.
Young Richard Nixon is right here.
So much insightful knowledge in this
I love it when Jimmy talks seriously. He’s so well educated and bright.
Super intelligent guy. He’s a philosopher for our time.
Is he really though? I’m not really hearing anything profound
haha, do be serious.
dorkbrandon4422 No, only someone with a rudimentary knowledge of public health advocates vaccination.
Jimmy, thank you for correcting him on depression. You’re awesome.