some rgb mix the colors within each diode but others strips, for example, will alternate a red diode and blue diode that produces a purple "glow" when the strip is hidden from sight, it is the glow of the lit diodes that produces the color
Thanks for this video BUT ... this video only tells me that the RGBW strip colors will be paler because there's an inherent white hue to them and that the strips can be brighter because they have more LEDS per length. Are there ANY other differences like in the wiring (e.g. 4 wires vs 5 wires)? As a newbie in LED lights, I was hoping for a more in-depth comparison? If I have to go by this video, I must assume that the differences I mentioned above are the only ones?
Hello Jeoka, the differences highlighted in the video are the main differences. Brightness and color mixing options are big factors for a variety of people that may desire very specific colors. The RGBW does have 5 wires as compared to 4 (RGB) as well in DMX terms RGBW takes up one more channel.
Hi! I think your answer covers the color possibilities but not the brightness. Does the RGB components of the RGBW light have the same brightness as the RGB one? If positive that'd mean that the W led adds even more brightness, but how much? A lumens per meter comparison would be good I thinks. Anyway Gracias!
The luminous flux (light output measured in lumens) of an LED strips depends on the quality of the LED but also on the density (how many LEDs per meter). Our RGB LED strips come in single (30 LEDs/m) and double (60 LEDs/m) densities; our RGBW LED strip is 72 LEDs/m. Now the RGB and RGBW do have something in common, and that is the peak wavelength of the Red, Green and Blue colors. But, due to the difference in densities and the addition of a White LED, RGBW will have a higher luminous flux. If this helps, in our 12V LED strips; RGB (30LEDs/m) has 402lm/m, RGB (60LEDs/m) has 804lm/m, and RGBW (72LEDs/m) has from 1001 to 1217lm/m depending in it's white color temperature
We're glad you found it helpful, that's why we put these out there! Please check out our website www.sirs-e.com if you'd like to see our different LED strips or for anything else you might need.
Do these LED strips have the same problem were the blue on the RGBW strip is more "Light Blue" because the phosphor layer for the white LED is directly next to the blue LED that causes it to light up al little?
Hi Robin, our 4-in-1 RGBW LEDs use high quality phosphor and for that matter, the blue and white phosphors do not mix unless you apply voltage to both. If you're getting a "lighter blue" in an RGBW strip from another vendor, you might want to check their CRI to make sure their blue phosphor quality. Feel free to call us at 956-522-2006 if you have more questions.
Hello olav blikra, thank you for watching our video and for your comment. Yes, an RGB strip can produce white. You just have to mix Red, Green and Blue values to produce a white color. The RGBW strip already includes a separate white LED element so that you do not have to sacrifice your RGB into producing white. The white in RGBW is a pure white from a white LED, this makes it easier to achieve custom or unique colors that cannot be achieved by using an ordinary RGB. You can see an RGB strip producing white here ruclips.net/video/ozDykmcH7CA/видео.html In short RGB simulates a white color, but if you want a more pure white color you will need an either an RGBW, Warm White, Nuetral White, or Cold White strip.
In real life LED RGB mix doesn't do as good a job at making white as a dedicated white LED. RGB can approximate white reasonably well depending on your purpose
Hi ThantiK, thank you for watching our video and for your comment. RGBW has between 20-30% greater lumen output than RGB. Since you're looking for tail lights, have you considered High Quality White LED strips instead of RGBW? You may want to check white strips here sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/white-led-strip-5050-wp/
I don't know if you can help, But i got an LED kit, and everything is wired up. but I am having problem with the colours. When it's set to RED the light is an Orange colour, Blue is a lighter shade of blue (closer to a Teal colour) When i have white selected and i lower the brightness it will start changing to green, the lower the brightness set the greener it gets but the actual brightness does not change. And when I turn off the unit with the remote, it changes to green and doesn't actually turn off. To me it seems that the unit is associating brightness with intensity of green but I am by no means trained or confident in my diagnosys.
Hello Italuce, we love our RGB and RGBW LED strips, however I like the RGBW a little more due to the increased density and the additional color mixing options that are available.
+TheBrothersCompound Hello, the reason those products are cheaper is because they are exactly that. They are made of lower quality, and sold through less reputable businesses. Our products are made up to an industrial standard as well as our 5050 LED strips are UL listed. Our diodes have a higher phosper purity and our strips achieve a CRI number of 91. As well we offer technical support for all our products and a 3 year guarantee for all non waterproof strips.
I have installed RGBW pixel TV lights but there is problem that a little running these are change to multiple colors.and running with out programmed software such different with others. control method which I am using is. one led strip+signal Reciever> dmax 1in 8 out>sub control> Main control...
Hi Marko, our 4-in-1 RGBW LED Strips come in 3 different options RGB-Amber, RGB-Neutral White and RGB-Warm White. You can visit our website at sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/a-grade-rgbw-led-strips/ or call us if you need help placing an order.
my experience is that the white colour done with the RGB smd (so not using the smd white part), on a strip rgb+w, is not "real white"!...I have 2 strips in my home : 1 RGB --> white perfect; 1 RGB+W --> the white done with the rgb part --> is not white!! ...Ok you can tell me "why don't You do the white with the "W led" and no the rgb part"..I don't know..I only would like to understand why the "old" rgb can do the real white and the "new" rgb+w doesn't do it.
Hello Riccardo, the reason for this could be the quality if the RGB diode in the different strips, as well as the them being from different batches, the 2 RGB diodes will not give off the exact same color. Generally with RGB the white that is achieved is at least a cool white, hence the need for RGBW.
You are right, but believe me, I purchased 3 strips from 3 different supplier, in order to test them..no white (with the rgb diodes, with the W one yes)..My old "only" RGB (not rgbw) has a white correct! I don't know why..maybe, seen that there is the White diode, they dont' loose time to calibrate the voltage for the white done with the rgb diodes...
Well that is interesting, it would be hard to say exactly why this is, however we do thank you for the input and for watching our video, hope you can check out some others and enjoy them as well.
+MKhv3 , Hello and thanks for your comment. RGBW LED Strips can be used with DMX controllers to control each color individually. Check out our products and see if this is what you're looking for: sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/rgb-led-dmx-controller-4-r2/ sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/led-dmx-controllers/rgb-led-dmx-controller-r2v2-4-channels-sirs-e/ sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/a-grade-rgbw-led-strips/
Thanks for the info! thjat was great. Do you know of any kits where I can have two separate LED kits on at once and turn them on and off individually from the same control unit wirelessly??
+Carlos Falconi Thanks for the question. If you go the DMX route, you can easily do this by getting two LED Strips of course, then using two DMX controllers to have each Strip run as an individual pixel. Assuming you have the controllers on different addresses then you can easily tell the software that each Strip is it's own pixel and that's how you have different "zones." You could go with 2 of these: sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/rgb-led-dmx-controller-2-r2/ or 1 of these: sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/led-dmx-controllers/rgb-led-dmx-controller-r2-6-channels-sirs-e/
what is the difference between the rgb that each light glows the selected color vs the rgb that 2 or 3 individual lights mix to produce the color glow?
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by this question, but RGB strips are made by creating lighting a 3 piece lighting diode which mixes at different level to create all colors available in a Red, Green, and Blue mixing option.
hello, i just wonder that if i buy the RGB one, whats the main color, or its just come out random color? or can I just set up the main color light when plug it into power and turn it on? EX: i want to install it into my car, i want the white light to be on when the power is on without press the white button.
The color will be which ever negative wire you have connected, there is no default color. There is a negative connection for each color so which ever you have plugged in will be the color showing, if you have more than on connected it will mix the colors.
I want ask you what is the reason that I have installed 24 lines but between these a little is running without control and changing colors to multiple or still on one color. why this happened....
Hello Rai, this could be for multiple reasons, there could be bad solders, possibly defective strip, an issue with the signal receiver, your controller may not be programmed properly, as well the controller may not be out putting DMX. I would say your best bet is to contact your supplier and troubleshoot with them so they can guide you in the right direction. If everything seems to just not work for your application feel free to contact us about replacing your system. You can email us at contactus@sirs-e.com or call us at 281-324-0908
Seems to me if one has the control should be able to get the same effect. Example, if you start with RGB to 1,1,1 (white) and turn the down the blue and green so it's 1.0 , 0.9, 0.9 then you end will up with a reddish white. At least in theory it should work this way. But then I don't know the physical characteristics of tri-color LEDs. Also in theory since you have white LED next to the colored ones if you set everything to white it should have like twice the brightness per inch of strip. For home lighting maybe one is better off with the white ones anyhow because it should add up to more intensity per strip and since most of the time you are probably wanting some "off white" hue ("warm", "cold", etc) and not direct primary hues. Ehhh, unless you want your house to look like strip club or a whorehouse inside..
Hello Joe, we have found that by getting truer red, green, and blue colors they do not always mix into a perfect white, hence the need for an RGBW strip. We enjoy your input and thanks for watching the video. Feel free to check out our website or contact us if you have any questions. www.sirs-e.com
Hello, you can and with DMX you can even mix shades of violet and lighter blues. Feel free to contact us at contactus@sirs-e.com , call us at 281-324-0908 and check out our website www.sirs-e.com
+Martyn Hello. Yes, I tend to say words like "Okay" and "um" a lot when I get nervous but I'm working on it. Thanks for your input, it helps us improve our videos. And thank you for watching.
Hello +Martyn , we understand, no offence taken. We just like to have constructive criticism from our viewers to help us improve our videos. Thank you for your comment.
Can you plug an RGB strip into an RGBW controller? Will it function the same for everything except with no response to white signals?
Yes you can use an RGBW controller with an RGB strip, as well you are correct that the only function you could not utilize would be the white.
thank you! I'll go with the RGB .
Hello, feel free to shoot me an email if you need a quote, rj@sirs-e.com
some rgb mix the colors within each diode but others strips, for example, will alternate a red diode and blue diode that produces a purple "glow" when the strip is hidden from sight, it is the glow of the lit diodes that produces the color
Thank you, this video was extremely helpful
Hi Harrison, we are glad you enjoyed this video. Feel free to email us at contactus@sirs-e.com if you have any question.
Thanks for this video BUT ... this video only tells me that the RGBW strip colors will be paler because there's an inherent white hue to them and that the strips can be brighter because they have more LEDS per length. Are there ANY other differences like in the wiring (e.g. 4 wires vs 5 wires)? As a newbie in LED lights, I was hoping for a more in-depth comparison? If I have to go by this video, I must assume that the differences I mentioned above are the only ones?
Hello Jeoka, the differences highlighted in the video are the main differences. Brightness and color mixing options are big factors for a variety of people that may desire very specific colors. The RGBW does have 5 wires as compared to 4 (RGB) as well in DMX terms RGBW takes up one more channel.
Hi! I think your answer covers the color possibilities but not the brightness. Does the RGB components of the RGBW light have the same brightness as the RGB one? If positive that'd mean that the W led adds even more brightness, but how much? A lumens per meter comparison would be good I thinks. Anyway Gracias!
The luminous flux
(light output measured in lumens) of an LED strips depends on the quality of
the LED but also on the density (how many LEDs per meter).
Our RGB LED strips come in single (30 LEDs/m) and double (60 LEDs/m) densities;
our RGBW LED strip is 72 LEDs/m.
Now the RGB and RGBW do have something in common, and that is the peak wavelength
of the Red, Green and Blue colors.
But, due to the difference in densities and the addition of a White LED, RGBW
will have a higher luminous flux.
If this helps, in our 12V LED strips; RGB (30LEDs/m) has 402lm/m, RGB
(60LEDs/m) has 804lm/m, and RGBW (72LEDs/m) has from 1001 to 1217lm/m depending
in it's white color temperature
I enjoyed your video. It was very helpful. Thank you!
We're glad you found it helpful, that's why we put these out there! Please check out our website www.sirs-e.com if you'd like to see our different LED strips or for anything else you might need.
Do these LED strips have the same problem were the blue on the RGBW strip is more "Light Blue" because the phosphor layer for the white LED is directly next to the blue LED that causes it to light up al little?
Hi Robin, our 4-in-1 RGBW LEDs use high quality phosphor and for that matter, the blue and white phosphors do not mix unless you apply voltage to both. If you're getting a "lighter blue" in an RGBW strip from another vendor, you might want to check their CRI to make sure their blue phosphor quality. Feel free to call us at 956-522-2006 if you have more questions.
but can a normal rgb led strip be white colour? i dont understand that yet
Hello olav blikra, thank you for watching our video and for your comment. Yes, an RGB strip can produce white. You just have to mix Red, Green and Blue values to produce a white color.
The RGBW strip already includes a separate white LED element so that you do not have to sacrifice your RGB into producing white. The white in RGBW is a pure white from a white LED, this makes it easier to achieve custom or unique colors that cannot be achieved by using an ordinary RGB. You can see an RGB strip producing white here ruclips.net/video/ozDykmcH7CA/видео.html
In short RGB simulates a white color, but if you want a more pure white color you will need an either an RGBW, Warm White, Nuetral White, or Cold White strip.
By definition mixing different values of rgb alone can yield every color.
Actually there are many colors that rgb can't show.
which ones?
In real life LED RGB mix doesn't do as good a job at making white as a dedicated white LED. RGB can approximate white reasonably well depending on your purpose
so what youre saying is your white has some excess green in it rather than balanced white
What's the differences in daylight luminosity? I'm looking for RGB leds that can be seen clearly in the daylight as tail lights.
Hi ThantiK, thank you for watching our video and for your comment. RGBW has between 20-30% greater lumen output than RGB. Since you're looking for tail lights, have you considered High Quality White LED strips instead of RGBW?
You may want to check white strips here sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/white-led-strip-5050-wp/
Nice test
I don't know if you can help, But i got an LED kit, and everything is wired up. but I am having problem with the colours.
When it's set to RED the light is an Orange colour, Blue is a lighter shade of blue (closer to a Teal colour)
When i have white selected and i lower the brightness it will start changing to green, the lower the brightness set the greener it gets but the actual brightness does not change.
And when I turn off the unit with the remote, it changes to green and doesn't actually turn off.
To me it seems that the unit is associating brightness with intensity of green but I am by no means trained or confident in my diagnosys.
+VauganizerHD May I ask where you purchased your LED kit from? Usually that happens with LED strips that have a lower CRI number.
make sure the wires have a strong connection as in they r actually touching and make sure they are in the right direction
I like RGBW Better, what do you think?
Hello Italuce, we love our RGB and RGBW LED strips, however I like the RGBW a little more due to the increased density and the additional color mixing options that are available.
Dont understand why you're products are so expensive considering you can get the same thing on amazon for like 30 bucks.
+TheBrothersCompound Hello, the reason those products are cheaper is because they are exactly that. They are made of lower quality, and sold through less reputable businesses. Our products are made up to an industrial standard as well as our 5050 LED strips are UL listed. Our diodes have a higher phosper purity and our strips achieve a CRI number of 91. As well we offer technical support for all our products and a 3 year guarantee for all non waterproof strips.
I have installed RGBW pixel TV lights but there is problem that a little running these are change to multiple colors.and running with out programmed software such different with others.
control method which I am using is.
one led strip+signal Reciever> dmax 1in 8 out>sub control> Main control...
Is RGBW strip in combination with warm white or cool white?
Hi Marko, our 4-in-1 RGBW LED Strips come in 3 different options RGB-Amber, RGB-Neutral White and RGB-Warm White.
You can visit our website at sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/a-grade-rgbw-led-strips/
or call us if you need help placing an order.
Nice leds
my experience is that the white colour done with the RGB smd (so not using the smd white part), on a strip rgb+w, is not "real white"!...I have 2 strips in my home : 1 RGB --> white perfect; 1 RGB+W --> the white done with the rgb part --> is not white!! ...Ok you can tell me "why don't You do the white with the "W led" and no the rgb part"..I don't know..I only would like to understand why the "old" rgb can do the real white and the "new" rgb+w doesn't do it.
Hello Riccardo, the reason for this could be the quality if the RGB diode in the different strips, as well as the them being from different batches, the 2 RGB diodes will not give off the exact same color. Generally with RGB the white that is achieved is at least a cool white, hence the need for RGBW.
You are right, but believe me, I purchased 3 strips from 3 different supplier, in order to test them..no white (with the rgb diodes, with the W one yes)..My old "only" RGB (not rgbw) has a white correct! I don't know why..maybe, seen that there is the White diode, they dont' loose time to calibrate the voltage for the white done with the rgb diodes...
Well that is interesting, it would be hard to say exactly why this is, however we do thank you for the input and for watching our video, hope you can check out some others and enjoy them as well.
is RGBW usable in flexible LED strip displays? I mean, can computer software that is controlling the displayed graphics make use of white in RGBW?
+MKhv3 , Hello and thanks for your comment. RGBW LED Strips can be used with DMX controllers to control each color individually. Check out our products and see if this is what you're looking for:
sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/rgb-led-dmx-controller-4-r2/
sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/led-dmx-controllers/rgb-led-dmx-controller-r2v2-4-channels-sirs-e/
sirs-e.com/product-category/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/a-grade-rgbw-led-strips/
Could you please compare rgbw and rgbww color mixes? i wanted to buy rgbww but after your video i'm not sure if it will mix nicely. Thanx for the vid
Hello, thank you for the suggestion, check out our website www.sirs-e.com
Thanks for the info! thjat was great.
Do you know of any kits where I can have two separate LED kits on at once and turn them on and off individually from the same control unit wirelessly??
+Carlos Falconi Thanks for the question. If you go the DMX route, you can easily do this by getting two LED Strips of course, then using two DMX controllers to have each Strip run as an individual pixel. Assuming you have the controllers on different addresses then you can easily tell the software that each Strip is it's own pixel and that's how you have different "zones."
You could go with 2 of these: sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/rgb-led-dmx-controller-2-r2/
or
1 of these: sirs-e.com/shop/led-lighting/led-strip-lights/led-dmx-controllers/rgb-led-dmx-controller-r2-6-channels-sirs-e/
Very interesting! and more than helpful. THANK YOU!
what is the difference between the rgb that each light glows the selected color vs the rgb that 2 or 3 individual lights mix to produce the color glow?
I'm not 100% sure what you mean by this question, but RGB strips are made by creating lighting a 3 piece lighting diode which mixes at different level to create all colors available in a Red, Green, and Blue mixing option.
is it color mixer or something else looks grate and can we add different colors as per RGB
Hello, for this video we used a DMX lighting controller with our DMX CON series decoders. Please visit our website to learn more www.sirs-e.com
hello, i just wonder that if i buy the RGB one, whats the main color, or its just come out random color? or can I just set up the main color light when plug it into power and turn it on? EX: i want to install it into my car, i want the white light to be on when the power is on without press the white button.
The color will be which ever negative wire you have connected, there is no default color. There is a negative connection for each color so which ever you have plugged in will be the color showing, if you have more than on connected it will mix the colors.
I want ask you what is the reason that I have installed 24 lines but between these a little is running without control and changing colors to multiple or still on one color.
why this happened....
Hello Rai, this could be for multiple reasons, there could be bad solders, possibly defective strip, an issue with the signal receiver, your controller may not be programmed properly, as well the controller may not be out putting DMX. I would say your best bet is to contact your supplier and troubleshoot with them so they can guide you in the right direction. If everything seems to just not work for your application feel free to contact us about replacing your system. You can email us at contactus@sirs-e.com or call us at 281-324-0908
Seems to me if one has the control should be able to get the same effect.
Example, if you start with RGB to 1,1,1 (white) and turn the down the blue and green so it's 1.0 , 0.9, 0.9 then you end will up with a reddish white.
At least in theory it should work this way. But then I don't know the physical characteristics of tri-color LEDs.
Also in theory since you have white LED next to the colored ones if you set everything to white it should have like twice the brightness per inch of strip.
For home lighting maybe one is better off with the white ones anyhow because it should add up to more intensity per strip and since most of the time you
are probably wanting some "off white" hue ("warm", "cold", etc) and not direct primary hues.
Ehhh, unless you want your house to look like strip club or a whorehouse inside..
Hello Joe, we have found that by getting truer red, green, and blue colors they do not always mix into a perfect white, hence the need for an RGBW strip. We enjoy your input and thanks for watching the video. Feel free to check out our website or contact us if you have any questions. www.sirs-e.com
Hm
rgb or rgbw batter?
Hello, this all depends on preference really.
Hey but if I use a 44 key remote can I control the white leds?
+Subhan Hussain Hello, yes you can however they will only take one channel.
need to ask . if i buy a rgb led and i cut become two . and i stick two led on my bike . can the remote control remote both ? sry broken english
+HardToDie Gaming Hello, Yes the remote control is able to control both. Please check out our website. sirs-e.com/
And where do we buy those light???
Hello, you can inquire about them on our website www.sirs-e.com
can i get purple by using RGB strip?
Hello, you can and with DMX you can even mix shades of violet and lighter blues. Feel free to contact us at contactus@sirs-e.com , call us at 281-324-0908 and check out our website www.sirs-e.com
But is it dangerous to just have some lightstrips over my bed or under by desk at my bedroom? I mean can it catch fire etc?
Our LED Strips are actually UL listed class 2, meaning they have met rigorous safety standards, and will not catch fire.
good, thanks
Please check out our website www.sirs-e.com
Jorge rocks!
Glad you enjoyed the video, feel free to check out our website. www.sirs-e.com
Okay? Okay guys?
+Martyn Hello. Yes, I tend to say words like "Okay" and "um" a lot when I get nervous but I'm working on it. Thanks for your input, it helps us improve our videos. And thank you for watching.
SIRS Electronics Inc Meant no offence! V informative video, keep up the good work!
Hello +Martyn , we understand, no offence taken. We just like to have constructive criticism from our viewers to help us improve our videos. Thank you for your comment.