A Deep Dive Into The PlayStation 5 1200 Series! Complete Technician's Teardown & Layout/Repair Guide
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2023
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Incredible disassembly and analysis video of the new 12xx model. Congratulations for the initiative! Thanks!
Finally! Kept finding teardowns for older models - needed this one :) Thank you!!
Great to see a tear down on a new revision !! Love your content Phil 👍
Great analysis, man. This is very important for the repair community.
I would love to see a pros and cons at the end of the video about this revision, never the less, thank you for your time and efford, the community appreciate it!
Thing is half of that Liquid Metal is stuck to the underside of the heatsink not just on the APU so when both are sandwiched together and tightened down there won’t be a dry spot ?
Your educational information is priceless amazing. Thank you.
I’m glad I got my console near release. Great video.
Im assuimng they have done this to drop it in the PS5 slim after? do you have nay idea the pwer consumption guess of a slim, is that something you can check or test witht this board? i ask for travel, being able to power a PS5 off grid is heavy consumption, but a slim will be less like the PS4 was, right.
Always enjoy watching your videos,
thanks for your hard effort
Hello, I have a question? bought a ps5 CFI-1216b GOW Digital Version. It has the fan nidec v3 it makes a noise that bothers me when i paly at night. can I exchange for an NMB V1? because of the amperage nidec has 1.9 and the NMD has 2.4. can burn some, circuit on ps5? thank you, greetings
3 months later have you had an increase in the triple beap of death in the 1200 series ?
Hello, I have a question. Is there a difference between the 1016A/1116A and the 1216A in terms of the drive cable? 25pin 1016A/1116A and 20pin 1216A can that be?
What a fantastic job!
Finally! Thank you!
That separate shield over the USB ribbon cable will make things easier. Does this mean you can now remove the whole PCB and heatsink assembly in one piece to get to the power supply without removing all the screws in the shielding?
Hello, could you tell me which model of the 3 is the best in your opinion?
I managed to loose the small SMD next to the lower left corner of the HDMI encoder at 32:59. Do you have any value for me so I can reorder it? I assume it is Capacitor but I‘m not sure
Very usefull Phil thank you.
Thanks!
Thanks so much dude, you're an absolute legend 🙌
I just did a Prime Sub on twitch. I didn't realize that was an avenue to support creators so now I've got a few more people to support. Keep up the good work. Guys like you and TronixFix are the reason I bought my first soldering Iron and started fixing my own electronics.
Hey man, hope you could reply on my comment. You see, we just bought this same model from playstation in dubai and it says international version, but when i opened it up it's a japanese one. The problem is it states that the power supply is only 100v 3.55A 50/60hz and we are using 220-240v outlet. So im kindly asking if the power supply that is used in this newer version supports dual voltage regardless of what is written on the console? Thanks, best of luck.
Is the power supply the same as the 1000/1100 series?
It seems these GOW bundle PS5 consoles has major problem with disc drives, many have reported that they are broken out of the box, mine which i bough last week wont read discs either, wonder what is the problem.
I can’t believe they wired it like that , it will need to be rerouted. I tried to get the Amazon to twitch and it won’t let me , do I have to switch from USA
@thecod3r i watch a lot of your video on youtube, its really educated appreciate that so much. But there is some question according so many ps5 console broken and get fix by you. Is the Ps5 console is a bad product? From 3 series that ps5 have which is the most good, is it 10, 11 or 12?
Great video mate got a question my little boy who has learning difficulties tipped milk on his series s and it has stopped working just wanted to know what I should do
So I have the same model PS five. Mine is 1215 and I’m wondering. Those wires on the heat sinks. I paid Walmart $60 for a three-year warranty on my PS five. Does that mean that I can go in and try and move the wires off the heat sink of mine and should I move the wires?
Once you open up the PlayStation 5 you void the warranty. I strongly recommend not to mess with it. If you have an issue with your PS5. Deal with the warranty first over doing your own work.
The PS5 for me is very quiet.
It has a HDMI Retimer problem, but it still displays a signal.
I cannot open any media apps such as RUclips because the signal bounces in and out.
@TheCod3r, I've purchased this revision for my shop to compare components as well. To my surprise, I received one of these in for repair just weeks after release (September-November in the US?). Power supply was already dead, but as you said, the ADP-400FR is not available ANYWHERE. If anyone is wondering, you can use the ADP-400DR, it has the exact same ratings. I removed the 12V connector from the motherboard and wired up the terminals myself to allow the old PSU to fit, it was quite an interesting project!
The cable on the heatsink is it really a call of concern? To where the small heatsink is it doesn't look like it's cooling any vrams or anything important
Hey! I don’t actually understand anything that he’s saying, but does the 1200 version works on 110v and 220v? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
Can anyone tell me if there would be any problem if I change the ps5 (CFI-1216A model) fan (KSB1212HGHU1 DC12V 2.15A model) for another fan which is a different model? Thanks in advance.
Good job 👏
Had a couple of drinks last night and fell asleep while watching it 😂 not blaming you Phil 🤣😂🤣😂
Now to try again
Nice vid u make Some of the best fixing content on RUclips
Cheers buddy
thanks really helpful, i bought 2mm thermal pads but the ps5 wouldnt boot, so i replaced them with mx6 and 1.5mm pads with help from your video showing me where to repaste, just have to put the case and fans screws back in and give it a test 👍
Hi 3 questions: from a technicians point of view which one of the 3 three versions of the ps5 is better to work on? Which one of the three versions is technically better? Which one of the three ps5 versions should a consumer buy if all 3 ps5 version were available to purchase?
I would honestly go for the first PS5 version due to having the biggest copper heatsink than the rest. In my case, I ended up buying the 3rd PS5 version because it was made in the original PlayStation factory in Japan at a cheaper price than the first PS5 version made in the same factory.
@@sonyx5332 +1, 3rd, i get too ps5 Japan ver + power cord Japan ( but get inside Europe power ) , but still say Made in China!.
@@Shakada By Europe power inside, do you mean the power supply? I own a few PS3 consoles (first edition plus dev kit) Made in Japan and was surprised to see the power supply say Made in China. So it seems that even if the console is Made in Japan, there are some pieces/components Made in China.
1st gen has much bigger heat sink & more expensive materials
Does the cfi-1200b series have chronic problems? Which is the latest model?
I know this is late but my 1000 model ps5 broke the APU is going bad. I’m looking to replace it and wasn’t sure which model would be most reliable either the 1000,1100,1200 or the newer slim? What’s your opinion. @TheCod3r
Was it powered on and left on because that's a lot if dust on the fan for just being powered on once
Happy to see this I just got one of these over from south korea. 1218.
Thank you for this teardown. I hadn't worked on a PS5 before so it was nice to have a reference when I fixed my own PS5 today.
what data is necessary for the console to work correctly?
Been watching you for years now love the content I’m after fixing multiple game consoles with your guidance of course thanks 🙏🏻
Cheers buddy, glad to help, and nice to see people stick around after so long too. Thank you
Good evening to you Phil and your family. Thanks for the new teardown video. 🍻
Thanks bud, really appreciate that 👍
I'm currently taking some measurements on an EDM-030 board and it seems that F7002 is actually 3.3v on this revision. I'm also getting 1.98v from F7003, so i'm not sure if that is supposed to be the 1.8v rail or not, but either way i would highly recommend against swapping ICs between EDM-030 and EDM-020 without taking measurements first.
@TheCod3r Have you tried using PCM(phase change material) instead of thermal paste or liquid metal? Just wondering cause you cut it to size and it doesn't give dry spots or refuse to spread/spread too much.
I haven't mate, I'll do a bit of reading and see what it's all about
Only problems with PCM is that they can be considerably more expensive than liquid metal or thermal paste
@@jasonrichardson1999 they are cheap on ali
@@RobIn-ky4uz AliExpress also isn't the best source for alot of things
Hi, does anyone know if this versionis dual voltage? I bought it in japan and want to use it in Europe
Great video. Love it! Regarding the Power Supply Unit, may I know if my CFI1200A(1) bought from Japan supports the 220 voltage power supply? Though it is written 100v only at the bottom of the console. Thanks indeed...
I have the same doubt...
did u get any answer about this??
According to your experience, what version should I buy then ?
BTW great presentation thanks 👍
I watched a lot of bloggers on the ps5 analysis, but alas, there is no such revision, thank you again
@TheCod3r Hi! Great video.
Could you please point out uart pins for this pcb? They have changed the pin locations.
Thanks!
How much liquid metal was on the heatsink you put to one side ?
Would you recommend a better LM or adding a minute bit to it
The PS5 has far too much liquid metal. I always take some off when reassembling the consoles
The perfect amount in just the right spot to fill in that "dry spot" that he claimed was from pooling. It was plain as day obvious when he pulls them apart. You just have to pause the video at the right time and look.
I have an xbox one S and the disk drive wasn't reading disk. I replaced the laser and still didn't fix it. So I bought a new drive, put it in, and works. Any idea what could be wrong with the original drive?
It's hard to say really, could just be that the laser you used was defective. Realistically replacing the laser should have solved the problem
@@TheCod3r that what I thought too. I'll tear it down soon. Clean, look for the obvious, and grease the gears. Thanks for the reply Phil!!
Interesting stuff
Great video, Phil. Looks like we both went from coding to soldering (6502 & 68000 Assembly in my case!)
Keep up the great work.
At last , going to enjoy this 👍
Glad to assist bud
@@TheCod3r keep the videos coming and ignore the idiots . . . . . But not me 😂
Enjoying this one! Mine started overheating and shutting off but since I've put it horizontal it's been absolutely fine lol. Must've been dry spot, it's just better to keep them flat to be safe 😎
Awesome bud, glad to hear that helped you
@@TheCod3rThe thing that baffles me is this doesn't seem to be an issue with PC's 🤣 my guess is because they use those tight clamps that hold it in place more efficiently?
@@philkasafir.PCs use different Liquid Metal, Sony is using its own that apparently it spent over a year developing. Or most likely making as cheap as possible. Plus PCs tend to have a lot more and better barriers against it leaking. Liquid Metal is also corrosive, so it can eat away on the aluminium heat spreaders. With a PC it’s much better to just water cool it and stick with thermal paste.
@@philkasafir. its not an issue with pcs becuase 90% of people on pc dont use liquid metal
@@zodiark2456 But in general PC's have better quality clamps holding the heatsink on the chip, sony cut corners here 😎
Loved it every moment of it this is super useful epic and yes will love to see more on the trouble shooting and voltage ⚡️ injection ect
got your account code. Thanks man!😉
Everyone, I'm pretty sure I know what the issues is with the liquid metal. First I'm a machinist and we deal with silver plated pins for satellites, etc. Every time the Plate company returns the pins there is a "dog boning" effect (edges of pin are a thicker than the center of the pin).
So I believe this can effect every model of console. Whats happening is there probably plating the heat sink vertical which causes more nickle material to attach to one side. This would have a "mound" effect, a 0.001 or more thickness difference between one side or the other. If there not smoothing or granite stoning a smooth even thickness afterwards there will be uneven pressure between the die (APU) and the heat sink surface. Over time the liquid metal is squeezed out of the higher pressure area and spreads to the less pressured area causing a dry spot, eventually leading to a hot spot and overheating. I would love to see TheCode3r take a square edge to the heat sink and the die to see just how flat those surfaces are? My bet is the hot spot ones are not flat.
This to me is going to effect the 1000, 1100, 1200, models in time. How many have uneven plating? Who knows, but there will be many that will not have uneven pressure and there will be x number of consoles that will.
So the liquid metal issue is real and still occurring on the 1200 model, right?
Are the "warranty void if removed" stickers not legal in the UK? I thought it was only that way in the US. I haven't heard updates from the EU, but 3-4 years ago they were valid. Meaning they can legally deny you warranty service if the sticker is damaged.
Not a legal practice in the EU.
What a major change insde must be annoying as some parts are not interchangable be intresting to see if thr SSD still can be swaped those cable routed over the heat sink is going to cause a world of trouble
good stuff keep it up i'v learned a lot from your channel
Thanks bud
Gamers Nexus found out that the ps5 memory modules stay cooler when the ps5 runs without side panels. however, this was with the 1000 model. the 1200 has fairly large openings in the case where a lot of cold air comes out once you've removed the side panels. so this lost air doesn't pass through the cooler and so would the ps5 1200 theoretically get warmer without side panels?
Ask Sony how to use it best,since this dude is clearly biast against Sony.
Like it's his life's mission to take down Sony's engineering teams.
They probably rejected his job aplications.
Or simply don't buy PS5.
For 650$ - 750$ you can build a PC of similar power IF you know what you are doing.
Look.... I found a Sony Fanboy.
He there, how is live?
@@arjanvink9361
HOW is among other things suggesting you a PC over PS5 being Sony fanboy?
The fact that "problem" isn't widely recognized speaks volumes.
I would in the same way defend Microsoft IF he made some bias rubbish against Microsoft.
I was accused more than once to be Xbot.
IF both sides are accusing me,I must be doing something right.
thank you man i been having trouble with it not playing game on 4 month old end up i missing some liquid metal will updating once i put the new liquid metal in
52:30 Looks more like a G to me, probably depicting that it's good.
Crazy to route cables across the heat sink like that!
Could you put a thin strip of thermal putty under the wire/ribbon cable, or would that cause problems?
Cheers pal. Yeah I was thinking maybe making some sort of bracket to fit on top could be a way to keep cables away from the heat
@@TheCod3r please make a solution and show us what do do! Sony running cables on top of a heat sink is unacceptable.
Would appreciate a soln this also @TheCod3r
What should be done by Sony? They should put some sort of heat resistant sheath on the LED cable to prevent melting on the board keep up the good work been watching your channel for years awesome job
The formula for the liquid metal needs to be thicker or not runny, whichever. Or create a self sealing cavity so there is no way for the liquid to squeeze out and contaminate the circuitry.
Hi mate I've sent a switch to you but you wasn't there to collect it and Ryal mail want to know what to do with it can you let me know please thanks I've called and text but nothing
Couldnt you just clean the liquid metal off and use some high quality thermal paste to solve that issue?
Hi, you have a video to remove power supply?
Hello! Im watching the video at -0,5 speed, and oh boy it is a blast! TheCod3r sounds super mega drunk! I laughed so freaking hard!
😂😂 true
🤣🤣
Lmao 😂😂
Had to see for myself sounds great i personally liked 0.25 playback speed
Haha that's hilarious 🤣🤣
Thanks for the great video. Very detailed.
Question from United States about this model console I bought Refurbished from GameStop.
Shortly after buying the console it started dropping Bluetooth connectivity with the DualSense controller.
I tore it down to see what could be wrong, but nothing sticks out as obvious.
The Bluetooth antenna cables are both attached to the underside of the Wi-Fi & Bluetooth chip and all the way to the antenna. They are both wiggly, but attached.
Do you think my problem is the cables and I should re-solder them? Or could it be the chip itself?
I do have the replacement warranty on it but didn't want to waste it in something I might possibly be able fix.
Should I try to fix it, it use the warranty for an exchange?
Sorry for the detailed request for free assistance, but nobody knows what this problem is. It likely happened when it was Refurbished.
Thank you much.
It's all good buddy, glad to help when I can. If the controllers constantly disconnect and you don't have any obstructions (I.E you have line of sight with the console) and the antennas are connected (loose is normal) I'd say return it under warranty. The IC itself is likely the cause but rather than risk damaging it or voiding the warranty I'd say get gamestop to replace it for you :)
@@TheCod3r thanks much for the reply. I took it apart and everything does seem to be okay. The antenna plugs swivel but are tightly in there.
I see what I think could be the likely problem is that the chip is right next to the heatsinks, and there is no case ventilation in that spot on the back so the chip might be overheating. Maybe, maybe not.
@danismithmn you're welcome. I wouldn't say it's overheating. They shouldn't do by design. I'd say it's probably a defective chip to be honest
What Model number is this ? The two last week we got are the CFI-1215a
Same model pretty much. The fans can be different between models with the same number but the 12 just means 1200 model, 15 is the region and A or B says whether it's the disc or digital version.
I'm in the UK and mines the CFI-1216A. Which means it's the 1200 model, European (can be from the Middle East and Africa too I believe) and it's the disk version.
He's in the UK so it's probably CFI-1216A if he got it from a UK seller.
if they just went thermal past would it be the same temps or close
There is a great video by tronics fix I think that replaces it with thermal paste and it overheats fast.
How do you know what series of ps5 you have ? Got mine in June, forbidden west bundle , love the videos very informative
It says on the box. It'll start with CFI-
If you can get cost cutting and better overall performance with cooling and watts then im all for it. Its just them optimizing the ps5 while being able to make more and get the parts for them. Performs actually better so all good! Ive had a 1000 it somehow would heat my room up my 1200 doesnt and idk how that could make a difference but it did. Also I swear my 1200 has better internet connection even with my ethernet it doesnt fluctuate as much.
When I first saw your video about the issue with liquid metal dripping, I opened my ps5. Saw some spreading around the seal. Didn't want to risk getting my console damaged, removed the liquid metal. Cleaned everthing and applied thermal past grizzly. Has been almost 4month. Everthing looks and sound good.
what.....? The ps5 instantly overheats with thermal past
@Knightsauce mine has been running fine since I changed to thermal past. Fan doesn't speed up. All seems to be working fine + there are videos on YT comparing thermal paste with liquid metal.
@ShockWave Lets see how its works after 1 year. Have u not see TronixsFics test video about that?
@IceDr4gon true. I will probably know, and yes, I did see his videos and he tested without fan connected and both overheat with 1minute diff between both devices so I consider a win. Plus I always replace my thermal past after a year being on my pc or ps5. I don't think a year period will be a issue.
@@Knightsauce Absolutely not, quality thermal paste and there will be no difference in operating temperature.
You mention the liquid metal accumulating at the bottom of the APU, but if you look at how you pull the motherboard up, you lift it from left to right while tilting it top to bottom, and since you are pulling on the liquid metal it pulls more of the liquid metal to the bottom of the APU, could this not be the reason it always seems to pool at the bottom of the APU? if you were able to remove the motherboard without tilting it wouldn't the liquid metal not pool more in the middle of the APU?
You can see the dry spot which he pointed out though
Also forgets to mention half the Liquid Metal is stuck to the underside of the heatsink when he pulled it away so showing just the APU and it having a dry spot is very misleading
@@CH-bn7qb No point explaining. People have already been brainwashed.
Dry spots don't happen until after the system is turned on. That means the liquid metal was pooled before turning it on. Columbo.
@@B9NE yet the coder said this system was never turned on ?
Thats a damn good saying to live by.
Done an hdmi on one last week gave me a surprise when i took the cover off lol
Haha yeah I've heard the ports are still weak as hell. A few guys on discord have had a fair amount of them
I bought it from japan and does it work in india on 220 volts
Which version do you recommend to anyone buying a ps5 or want to buy a ps5 Phil ??
So to keep the latest PS5 from having future problems, we have to break the warranty sticker and fix the cables being around the heatsink.. 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Feel like doing a video on future proofing the latest PS5 from needing repairs as best as possible?
Also can the PS5 run just as fine on good thermal compound instead of the liquid metal? I'm just tired of hearing about liquid metal destroying boards and not being worth the trouble it's worth!
Thanks love your videos!! Good stuff, cheers!
Hi Phil is it possible when you split the board from the heat sink that some of the liquid metal stayed with the heatsink side and made it look like you had a dry spot
I got my PS5 in July 2021 and it has been standing upright since the day I got it. Never had any over heating problems🤞
Ps5 CFI 1200 installed M2 Corsair MP600 PRO LPX. Ps5 shows speed 3685mb/s. I decided to check out the M2 and the games run very fast and work great. Someone faced such a problem as the minimum reading speed?
1200A japon 100v... türkiye 220v türkiyede kullanılabilirmi
Would you recommend I lay my PS5 on its side? Even if the liquid metal groups a bit towards the bottom, isn't the protective layer enough to keep it there?
No it's not. Also the liquid metal will leak under the protective sticker and end up shorting the capacitors around the APU.
Bumping or dropping the console will make the issue happen faster.
Sadly that protective sticker doesn't work sometimes. It's not a major issue right now but it certainly won't hurt to run it horizontally. It should at least help with the puddle that forms
@@TheCod3r I don't understand why Sony didn't use a protective "cage" around those components, like in the PS4.
@Buford "Mad Dog" Tannen Oh really u cant understand? Because it would cost too much money to do it like that...
@@bufordmaddogtannen
Bumping or droping?
And if you drop a console with thermal paste,we can expect it to work without issues?
Why even say it?
New sub here!
Have you done one of these for the other boards?
Nah mate but I can do 😉
can you do a reassembly video? lol.. I have 7 extra screws and didnt seperate the boards to do a PS replacement
Did you find a full reassembly of the 1200 model? Bonus if it includes the full disassembly.
Note the lithium coin cell roasting under the heatsink... WTF they were thinking...
please make a video how to start checking voltage on 1200 model board to find faulty components. :)
have a question phil why cant you lay ps5 flat why do they have to stand up straight
Use the Stand that came in the box. It does lay Vertical. The stand clips in the back in the middle. Read the instruction manual buddy.
Wow. Look at how small the motherboard is on the 1200 model. Someone could really build a tiny PS5 with that.
I received mine not long ago but I seriously wanted the first revision due to the bigger nice looking copper heatsink.
DIY Perks has done something like that not too long ago.
@@SNC2319 I saw that video it was pretty cool but I thought liquid cooling was overkill. He could have built one without liquid cooling and it would be sleek.
@@sonyx5332 I also just got the Ragnarok bundle on new years eve. Nothing to worry about the smaller heatsink we have since our chips actually run cooler. Yeah a bigger heatsink is nice but our chips are 6 nm and use less watts so we don't need a heatsink so beefy. The launch model PS3 had a huge heatsink yet it ran hotter than a PS3 Slim on cell and rsx.
@@cemsengul16exactly lol