I’m a black young man from esst London, I’ve never understood why would you kill someone because they live in a different estate, 10 min away from yours??? I can understand if there’s a territorial dispute regarding each gangs interest for drug trafficking, but just because they live In a different area??? Most of our parents are immigrants that came for a better life, and we throw away ours… for our post code… that we don’t even own (properties)
These things are systemic. We see the same things in the US. The powers that be have always supported certain groups destroying themselves. We need to give our young people direction before the streets do.
I mean it’s deeper than that small little different beefs escelating to murder and shit which brings everyone who’s mans got killed into it and going on for generations. Drug beefs etc included. It’s just as with normal wars between countries or civil wars not that different.
An area being a shit hole or a nice place is all about the culture and mentality of the residents. You can be below the breadline and still maintain morals and pride. It's always a mentality that creates a culture, if these 2 ingredients are off then so will the area.
its a shithole cah too many people think that shotting will get them out, its usually out of desperation or grooming rather than just being a mental case.
@@Isleofskyeonly seeing colour is your mistake, the biggest variable in determining crime is poverty. In ever city, the highest crime rates are in poor areas, immigrants are moved to to poor areas so it appears that there’s some kind of racial element that determines crime, but this makes no scientific sense
@@lukeatbrandynightful Sorry, Luke but, whereas, you ARE right in that it has NOTHING to do with "colour" it has EVERYTHING to do with CULTURE. I realized wtll over 50 years ago it is the accompanying Culture that is the problem. Those SAME areas and SAME housing Estates in Southwatk(UK highest Social housing=97%) were very safe in my 29 years there. My flats never needed security. Now? TWO sets of security systems plus CCTV plus some Grills on the windows. Look at The Black West Africans. They OUTPERFORM White kids at school because 98% come from 2 Parents families and Education is paramount like it is for Asians, Chinese, and Jewish people who all succeed(in general) in Society. Black British of Jamaican antecedency have a completely different Culture. Whereas those other aforementioned Groups have 98% Two parents with The Dad giving emotional, practical, and financial support to his Partner and children,it is only 21.6% in The Black British Caribbean Community and not much higher for Mixed Heritage children. As someone who has socialized with endless Black Ladies(I live with a Jamaican lady) over the decades,I could give you endless examples. My Black Ladyfriend is one of 6 Babymothers from one Guy and his Brother has had " 14 or 15" children making 20 or 21 kids, without a Father, and though an extreme example, that is widespread. This is why you see so many Black progeny with Double Barrel names as the Black Mother, rightly, thinks her name should be on the Birth Certificate as she brought up the child on her own. Only having one parent, who then tends to be away from home having 2 jobs is WHY so many people from that Community are poor and they have the highest percentage of people in social housing being 42% of their Community with Whites next ar 21%. NOTHING to do with melanin or pigmentation but EVERYTHING to do with Culture.
I lived in Dalston during this period, and I remember my girlfriend at the time telling me she had to call the police on a bus because a bunch of teenagers were discussing stabbing another bunch of teenagers. They were talking about ambushing their ops, and other wild shit. It was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. Kids planning to kill other kids over basically nothing. I grew up in Brent, and remembered what it was like a decade earlier when the mandem gang were beefing with east and south London crews, and they were literally just walking up to people in cars, shops and restaurants and just shooting them. I thought all that dumb shit was over. It's getting bad again, and places that were recovering from gang violence are basically back at it again. I hate the atmosphere in a lot of London now. It's really important that people realize there is more to life than what happens in your estate and postcode.
@@ES-qm5hr That was a name that the police gave to them, that wasn’t their actual name😂. There has never been a gang in Tottenham by that name. There’s also never been a gang in any part of NW by the name of “the mandem gang”. It’s just unimaginative, out of touch white police officers that labelled them that…
All this gang stuff is a melting pot of serious mental health issues ☠️ these guys in the SUV searching for people to kill is just madness. I'm grateful I never got wrapped up in this postcode war rubbish lol
@@user-ot2rw5gu2s doesn't mean it's postcode beef, it started off between other things and most of the gangs are in the same postcode, N16 is stamford hill and stokey16, they beef each other, holly st and lfb/zt are e8, etc
No one can ever say that drill doesn't influence violence, it is literally a music genre that ONLY talks about violence and promotes that. If a 12-25yr old is listening to it daily thats going to influence them to get involved. TO think otherwise is completely deluded despite what your favourite rapper says
Exactly. Maybe a 21+ person won't be influenced but these low self esteem impressionable, angry 13-18 year olds boys are 100% influenced. It's a lifestyle
Lool those who don’t agree are deluded guys will diss dead rivals and cause a sped up retaliation or even the whole “no cap in my rap” where guys know they have to really be doing what they rap about on tracks or won’t get taken seriously to many examples to pick out on why drill is influential
Yeah let's blame drill just like everyone blamed gangsta rap back in the 90's. Guess what? Gangsta rap faded away but people were still killing each other. How does that work? Take the music away you think everyone just gonna get along ? How about stop complaining about music which would influence a tiny minority and start looking at the bigger picture. Damn I'm probably talking to some boomer who knows f- all about sociology and pre determinants of crime and health.
Pembury, Woodberry Down Estate, Stamford Hill Estate, Kingshold Estate, Frampton Park Estate, Southwold, Northwold, Holly Street, Square, Lordship, Smally, Knightingale, Kingsmead, A Road, Fellows Court, Hoxton, the list goes on. Most boroughs in London have 3 or 4 bad estates max, Hackney has double digits.
@@user-av94566 All these supposed bad areas and beef in this borough yet from the early 2000s to 2012 it still wasn't as dangerous as Lambeth or Southwark (murder rate wise). Once all the real Gs from lambeth and Southwark started getting locked up then it was Newham that became the worst borough in london. Hackney was all hype back in the day that's the truth.
@reebul8768 Nah man relax, I don't wanna sound like its some competition or glorifying the f*ckery. I ain't no stats man but murder rates was just as high as Southwark or Lambeth them times. There's whole heap of stuff that went on that ain't included in this. It weren't all hype big facts. As for Newham they picked up when gentrification began in Hackney.
@@reebul8768I'm from Lambeth and back in the day my olders told man not to cut tru hackney den times South ain't experienced a war like they had with Tottenham
My Parents and I, moved from Nenagh, Co Tipp in Ireland to Gascoigne Estate in Hackney in the later 80's. Although there was a sense of Gang Culture when I was growing up it was nothing compared to today. We moved away form Hackney in 1997 to Yorkshire where it was obviously more rural. However, I also felt the pace was too slow so I went back to live in Hackney in my early 20's - I live on Crosston Street, just off Broadway Market. There was a real push for gentrification and housing prices and general cost of living skyrocketed. I loved living there, I worked on Dalston Lane and was well aware of the increased gang culture, I often wondered what my life would have been like if we didn't leave Gascoigne Estate, I feel it was for the best. Thankfully today, I get to visit London alot and never feel like a tourist. GREAT VIDEO AND LOVE REMINSING ABOUT SEEING ALL THOSE OLD ESTATES I USED TO PLAY FOOTBALL ON!!!
Bit older than you but was born and bought up in Hackney by old school Jamaican parents close to Stoke Newington. Lived down the road from Gascoyne years later with an ex girlfriend. Also my older brother was really good friends with a guy i got to know called Michael or Mike, big friendly guy from Tralee. My brother went over there and stayed with Mike and his family for a week and loved it. Kept telling me how Guiness is so much better in Ireland!
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It's crazy man I live round here and most people only ever see glimpses of this world. Sad that these guys who have everything in common kill each other over nothing
It's actually mad. I went to Shoreditch just once, and coming out of the station I was already offered to buy weed. Then I walked around for about an hour, and saw an uber delivery driver have his bike stolen in front of at least 100 people by just one man. I still have the video. Then on my way back to the station, I saw a car full of gang members. At least, they were all wearing ballies and playing loud drill music. I was there from 3pm until 6pm, and already saw so much lmao. It's a beautiful area with a lot of life, but it's not safe and you can feel how little the police presence is.
@@dexgen4809 I'm a properly lower middle class guy with no gang ties at all, and I've been threatened with knives and stuff. It's crazy it all does just depend on how well you can stick to gentrified areas
I have lived in East London and now North East London and Hackney has always been rough, I have never heard anyone refer to it any other way to until now? I don't know about the 60's/70's but in my life it has always had the rep it has! And I was expecting a documentary, not the bare essentials.
14:42 it was during history class at Petchey Academy (the school on the left) that my friend was looking out the window, saw the crash, shouted and called the whole class over to then see a group of boys getting chased by the cops. It was the last lesson of the day and once the higher-ups were notified about what happened, nobody was allowed to go through Shacklewall Lane to go home as it was to dangerous. I had never seen nothing like it before and for years completely forgot this ever happened, almost everyone had to walk through Stoke Newington Road to get home. I was in year 7 when it happened, im now in my first year of college 😂 Thanks for reminding me about this. RIP to the kid.
@@StevoPvP Err yes you really do, proportionally West Yorkshire, Humberside and Teeside all have a higher recorded rate of violent crime per head of population than London.
I live near Hackney in Stepney. This just sounds so stupid to me. I know if I was caught up in this it would be my life. So I’m grateful to be on the outside observing the craziness unfold. Rather than being the statistic or part of the problem.
My grandparents lived in Bridge House in hackney from 1964 to 2007 (Homerton hight st. / Fenn St.) I think the location is actually briefly in this video at10:45 with bridge house now demolished and replaced. I spent a lot of time on the estate from 1980 - 2007 and it has always been a rough area, but only because of poverty. The sense of community was as strong as I have known anywhere in the UK, although the gentrification of the borough has probably atomised that.
why? we have some of the best food here, bread, bagels restaurants, Bars, coffee shops, clubs, venues, cinemas, boutiques, we have Galleries, markets, and parks I could go on, I've lived here for 25 years and seen it grow, those youth who fought in 2003 are grown men now, parents with jobs and responsibility, the gang wars are a pathetic joke based on a lack of identity and see racial stereotypes as role models
What's sad is all these areas used to par together I came from Clapton parred with stokey and square had bredrins in holly st and fields too. I could walk to all these areas and check my peoples. I'm 50 now and am saddened that areas my friends came from are now outta bounds how is this a thing? The ends is too small for all this !! Let's keep it real our parents all went Ridley market or mare street to shop how you gonna have opps on your doorstep? We need to do better 💯🙏
What? Say that in English. Bredrin is that sone sort of bakers loaf? Peoples? Kind of talk is that your grandparents came here to better their families they must be proud.
@@StuartAnderson-xl4bo lol the fact that you deduce a level of intellect and success to how one writes is funny to me, but we are all entitled to an option and this is yours. For the record I'm sure my grandparents are fine with how I've bettered my family.
Great video mate, I grew up in Homerton around Millfields road and Chatsworth road until the early 2000s, me and my mates were only little year 6s by the time I moved out so I only knew maybe 3 or 4 people who had experiences with street violence, but it was around all of us regardless, gun shots at night round clapton pond, kids bringing knives into primary school, seems it's got a lot worse now.
I went Rushmore primary school left in 1995 to go to Hackney Free secondary school. Mum still off Chatsworth Road now. It’s changed so much there and tbh this sortve crime is all over the place not just Hackney
@@sizzler1474 It's very gentrified there now, I don't recognise much when going back there. But you're right, it's not just in Hackney, and I enjoyed growing up there.
These young men don’t even know why they’re beefing anymore, first postcode murder occurred before some of these yg’s were born. Organizational Culture and the 5 Monkeys Experiment comes to mind, so sad to see young kids losing their life over absolutely nothing.
If they knew the plan they might stop killing each other. Guys need to love themselves and start owning their postcode. Yep buy properties. See the value shoot up 15 years down the line. Buying property means working and earning. It’s all doable. Have better plans in life. Doctors, architects, bankers, etc were born in Hackney… you can make out if you want to… that aside…hmm i would mention parenting… but well these guys are young adults…they have a choie. We all do. …. Let’s make the right choice and make plans for a prosperous future. One ❤️
Im born and bred London but mostly south so Brixton, Southwark down to crystal palace Croydon but due yo family stuff became homeless around the age of 16 and squatted all over dalston, Clapton hackney during this time and it was as bad as everyone says I've got some stories people think are unbelievable but obvs are true lol
I’ve lived in Hackney all my life and was born in Hackney hospital, I went to a senior school in Dalston, I have seen a very big difference in my 50 years and to be honest I would find it hard to move out but I am worried when I walk about, I’m now disabled so feel threatened. I have moved to many places in Hackney and always lived in the E9 area.
I was born on that road! lol.. (Mothers Hospital). I specifically know some of those characters that got that stretch named, "murder mile", only most of them actually lived in Upper Clapton.
14:30 its so crazy to me that i saw this chase from the basement of the school on the left, petchey academy. Its insane seeing it from the police angel and knowing that the men i saw running from police when i was in year 10 were murders.
I always look forward to your high quality productions and pleasant narrating voice Kid Nerd! I hope you at least double your subscriber amount this year. And as a last note I would encourage you to take as much time as you want when producing your videos, I much prefer quality over rushed productions to meet a certain quota. Cheers!
My dad lived in Hoxton where he was young and he (currently) works in the flat in Stamford Hill as he works for Hackney Homes, My uncle Darren lived in Shoreditch when he was young and he went to school there, My mum lived in Stamford Hill and over in Stoke Newington with her own house in the 80s and 90s and I was born in the hospital in Homerton in the late 90s before my family moved from Hackney to Walthamstow. Things change back in the day. Anyway great content mate. 👍
Hackney Homes is a former company that managed housing services on behalf of Hackney Council and ceased to operate about 8 years ago when housing services returned in-house to Hackney Council
I remember being in school 90 and early 00's in Hackney and those school fight were very mild but obviously they seemed like a big deal to us back then. I actually had no idea this modern day street war started from that. I think some of it kicked off because of boys robbing other boys in different schools.
They actually used to call it Hackney Crackney because of so many drugs in the area. They should film the crackheads of Hackney they are full of them everywhere it's awful-another reason to get out.
Once walked through the east end at night, after a West Ham game. It’s was one the scariest place I’ve ever been. Gangs of youths,young men hooded up most of them 6ft 3 plus ..The thoughts of what’s been shown in this in video was in my mind back then very unnerving and intimidating.Never would I do that again. No way .. come to think of probably not in the daytime either. Just not worth it.
There is racism our young people are killing each other , they have notbeen killed by police , teachers, or other races . We have serious issues in our community which must be addressed, Thank you for the video .
If you grew up in Hackney, and was about, then you 100% bought your clothes from STYLES in the narrow way! Blue bolt jeans and gravity in the 80s and red stripe “straights” in the 90s. Wired for sound for records 💪 Grew up in London fields, still here in my 40s! Loved it back then and still love living in Hackney! So many smart kids got lost to the streets, one way or another. 😢
just made a comment about this, I was at the cage a minute away when this happened. To think that could've been me.. to survive all this during its peak was truly a miracle
As a local resident I have to say going home from school was not a joke back in the day 01-07 I thought it was normal till I discussed how other peoples rides home from school were 😂
Despite making up only 13% of London's total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London's knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators
I was planning to visit Hackney, London, England this summer. I left England in 1987. But now I don’t know if I want to risk it. It was once my home. Is it safe to walk through during the day?
Watch bullet boy filmed in Hackney 2003 cars blown up all over the place joy riding place is just run down them years seemed a lot more dangerous running into massive gangs who are on robbing you
these gangs are tough, i know a lot of them, real tough ppl, one gang member he fought another man for some chicken wings. Dont mess with them real deal.
Great video. Love the channel. Question: How many of these boys that commit these crimes do you think have a father in the house growing up? That's no diss. I really want to know what people think.
I grew up without a father figure but knew this life wasn't for me. Street lights come on I'm going home. The issue is a number of things mostly pointing to a severe lack of positivity in their lives. But ultimately it's choice. Many choose to be gang members, many choose to kill or maim. This is nothing new, it's centuries old and will be going on long after we're all gone. Sad thing is most of these people are intelligent. It's gotta take brains to run operations, unfortunately they steer this energy into the wrong direction.
@marlongrant27 I agree with you. However, we have to acknowledge the fact that a correlation exists between single parent baby mama homes and youth crime . That's a statistical fact. Research also exists that proves the importance of fathers in the home for academic success. For some reason, in Western countries, the role of fathers is always minimized. The result are Council estate gangs full of fatherless boys running around not giving a toss about other people because they felt no one gave a toss about them. Whether they know it or not, most at some point were looking for a father figure they never had. No fathers, no community, no safety for anyone. That's how it works fathers protect what's theirs and those who voluntarily come under his covering and by extension ensure safer communities for all. That's how the nonsense gets checked. It's interesting how most people (Not you) tend to belittle or rubbish the importance of fathers. Maybe they just don't know because they never had one at home. What do people think?
Grown men still beefing like kids, these man had a way out with music… violence can be prevented by making out and staying out the way, nowadays everyone wants to be the man. Numerous people have killed and holding a L plate, many families affected for life. All of this could’ve been prevented by these people moving out of the area and staying out the way.
4:55 was Shaquille Smith who got stabbed to death. My mum taught him in school. One of the killers went to the same school. He was completely innocent and had nothing to do with gangs.
0:11 seconds in, black man and a White skin head. Both chilling, just being peaceful peace keepers. On the doors hi vis on. Thats the real world. They both chillin, no dissin💙 That's the reality we don't regularly see. No bad vibes, no trash talking. Just 2 people doing their best on the job👌🙏
I remember me sully and dushane had the block popping back in the early 2000s. Everyone was eating proper you get me. They’ll never be able to do what we done.
This must be a recap of past generations. Because, I'm always around Hackney, at different times, including 2-5am in the morning. And I can tell you, there is no presence of this "gang lifestyle" culture. The area has become a very civilised area. With many environmentally conscious communities residing in the area. Including communities from the hipster community, vegans, young adults from middle class to lower upper class English backgrounds.
I’m from fields and even though I grew up with most of them I always stayed out the gang ting and stayed neutral to keep friendships from Pembury, Holly street and Homerton. Life’s too short to die over postcodes fam. Get your money and gone. Anyway shout out to Robin where ever you are ❤
14:40 i remember this I was in school when this happend RIGHT OUTSIDE MY SCHOOL AND I WAS WATCHING IT FROM LESSON from top floor in class and snapping it 😂😭😭😭😭
Hackneys been gentrified massively by the middle class hipster types, kinda miss how it was before but its definitely safer than it was 10-15 years ago.
I'm in Hackney all the time. It hasn't been massively gentrified. Much of it still looks like it did in 90's. Places like Clapton, Stamford Hill etc. look exactly the same. Take a trip up the road to Stratford to see real gentrification.
Great vid, as someone who grew up in hackney from 88 until 2008 this brought back a lot of memories Joshua white in particular was a naughty kid but fixed up later , his face never changed from when i left the ends Was sad to see him go. I was suprised you didnt mention about the 9 to 5 affiliation that was created to i think defend against the fields/holly st/ hoxotn threat although i could be wrong..if anyone here remembers let me know I believe 9 to 5 was kingshold/ballance/pembury and meade if im correct But man..some throwback there
@@OP-er9tm HFC that brings back some memories also..was a crazy time back then. Yeah i bumped into josh a couple times during the years, he seemed cool Do you remember the ginger guy who was killed also, was that who kid nerd was referring to when he said a guy out with his child and partner?
I’m a black young man from esst London, I’ve never understood why would you kill someone because they live in a different estate, 10 min away from yours??? I can understand if there’s a territorial dispute regarding each gangs interest for drug trafficking, but just because they live In a different area??? Most of our parents are immigrants that came for a better life, and we throw away ours… for our post code… that we don’t even own (properties)
Two important point in the video.
1. Olders brainwashing the youngers
2. Kids from rival area schools beefing
Well said bro
These things are systemic. We see the same things in the US. The powers that be have always supported certain groups destroying themselves. We need to give our young people direction before the streets do.
I mean it’s deeper than that small little different beefs escelating to murder and shit which brings everyone who’s mans got killed into it and going on for generations. Drug beefs etc included. It’s just as with normal wars between countries or civil wars not that different.
agreed, but Dads need to take more responsibility too@@queentopia9225
Thank goodness of the education and strictness my Parents raised me with. Coming from a 2 Parents Household surely helped
An area being a shit hole or a nice place is all about the culture and mentality of the residents. You can be below the breadline and still maintain morals and pride. It's always a mentality that creates a culture, if these 2 ingredients are off then so will the area.
its a shithole cah too many people think that shotting will get them out, its usually out of desperation or grooming rather than just being a mental case.
@@Isleofskyeonly seeing colour is your mistake, the biggest variable in determining crime is poverty. In ever city, the highest crime rates are in poor areas, immigrants are moved to to poor areas so it appears that there’s some kind of racial element that determines crime, but this makes no scientific sense
@@lukeatbrandynightful Sorry, Luke but, whereas, you ARE right in that it has NOTHING to do with "colour" it has EVERYTHING to do with CULTURE.
I realized wtll over 50 years ago it is the accompanying Culture that is the problem. Those SAME areas and SAME housing Estates in Southwatk(UK highest Social housing=97%) were very safe in my 29 years there. My flats never needed security. Now? TWO sets of security systems plus CCTV plus some Grills on the windows. Look at The Black West Africans. They OUTPERFORM White kids at school because 98% come from 2 Parents families and Education is paramount like it is for Asians, Chinese, and Jewish people who all succeed(in general) in Society.
Black British of Jamaican antecedency have a completely different Culture. Whereas those other aforementioned Groups have 98% Two parents with The Dad giving emotional, practical, and financial support to his Partner and children,it is only 21.6% in The Black British Caribbean Community and not much higher for Mixed Heritage children.
As someone who has socialized with endless Black Ladies(I live with a Jamaican lady) over the decades,I could give you endless examples. My Black Ladyfriend is one of 6 Babymothers from one Guy and his Brother has had " 14 or 15" children making 20 or 21 kids, without a Father, and though an extreme example, that is widespread. This is why you see so many Black progeny with Double Barrel names as the Black Mother, rightly, thinks her name should be on the Birth Certificate as she brought up the child on her own.
Only having one parent, who then tends to be away from home having 2 jobs is WHY so many people from that Community are poor and they have the highest percentage of people in social housing being 42% of their Community with Whites next ar 21%.
NOTHING to do with melanin or pigmentation but EVERYTHING to do with Culture.
@@Isleofskye you been to Leeds, mate? Or Chingford where the Albanians are at? Just two minor example
If there are brown ppl it will smell. If black or will be gangs. Facts
I lived in Dalston during this period, and I remember my girlfriend at the time telling me she had to call the police on a bus because a bunch of teenagers were discussing stabbing another bunch of teenagers. They were talking about ambushing their ops, and other wild shit. It was the dumbest thing I'd ever heard. Kids planning to kill other kids over basically nothing.
I grew up in Brent, and remembered what it was like a decade earlier when the mandem gang were beefing with east and south London crews, and they were literally just walking up to people in cars, shops and restaurants and just shooting them. I thought all that dumb shit was over.
It's getting bad again, and places that were recovering from gang violence are basically back at it again. I hate the atmosphere in a lot of London now. It's really important that people realize there is more to life than what happens in your estate and postcode.
She’s a smart girl
“The mandem gang”? “Other crews”? You couldn’t been more creative than that😂…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tottenham_Mandem@@martyrx3436
@@ES-qm5hr That was a name that the police gave to them, that wasn’t their actual name😂. There has never been a gang in Tottenham by that name. There’s also never been a gang in any part of NW by the name of “the mandem gang”. It’s just unimaginative, out of touch white police officers that labelled them that…
@@martyrx3436take the message and shut your mouth ahk
All this gang stuff is a melting pot of serious mental health issues ☠️ these guys in the SUV searching for people to kill is just madness. I'm grateful I never got wrapped up in this postcode war rubbish lol
how's it postcode wars if they're in the same postcode?
@@manlikeilyasthey have different numbers
@@manlikeilyas E5,E8,E9,N16 all close to each other
@@jays9538 holly street is e8 and lf/zt is e8
@@user-ot2rw5gu2s doesn't mean it's postcode beef, it started off between other things and most of the gangs are in the same postcode, N16 is stamford hill and stokey16, they beef each other, holly st and lfb/zt are e8, etc
No one can ever say that drill doesn't influence violence, it is literally a music genre that ONLY talks about violence and promotes that. If a 12-25yr old is listening to it daily thats going to influence them to get involved. TO think otherwise is completely deluded despite what your favourite rapper says
Exactly. Maybe a 21+ person won't be influenced but these low self esteem impressionable, angry 13-18 year olds boys are 100% influenced. It's a lifestyle
Lool those who don’t agree are deluded guys will diss dead rivals and cause a sped up retaliation or even the whole “no cap in my rap” where guys know they have to really be doing what they rap about on tracks or won’t get taken seriously to many examples to pick out on why drill is influential
Copying Chicago culture. London boys invented themselves imaginary opps …
aint durk or keefs fault ppl running around drilling, its called free will
Yeah let's blame drill just like everyone blamed gangsta rap back in the 90's. Guess what? Gangsta rap faded away but people were still killing each other. How does that work? Take the music away you think everyone just gonna get along ? How about stop complaining about music which would influence a tiny minority and start looking at the bigger picture. Damn I'm probably talking to some boomer who knows f- all about sociology and pre determinants of crime and health.
Such a sad way to live. RIP to all who have lost their lives and couldn't find a way of this hellish mindset
Back in the day, alot of hackney was a no go.
Fields was actually scary
Pembury, Woodberry Down Estate, Stamford Hill Estate, Kingshold Estate, Frampton Park Estate, Southwold, Northwold, Holly Street, Square, Lordship, Smally, Knightingale, Kingsmead, A Road, Fellows Court, Hoxton, the list goes on. Most boroughs in London have 3 or 4 bad estates max, Hackney has double digits.
@@user-av94566 All these supposed bad areas and beef in this borough yet from the early 2000s to 2012 it still wasn't as dangerous as Lambeth or Southwark (murder rate wise). Once all the real Gs from lambeth and Southwark started getting locked up then it was Newham that became the worst borough in london. Hackney was all hype back in the day that's the truth.
@reebul8768 Nah man relax, I don't wanna sound like its some competition or glorifying the f*ckery. I ain't no stats man but murder rates was just as high as Southwark or Lambeth them times. There's whole heap of stuff that went on that ain't included in this. It weren't all hype big facts. As for Newham they picked up when gentrification began in Hackney.
@@reebul8768I'm from Lambeth and back in the day my olders told man not to cut tru hackney den times South ain't experienced a war like they had with Tottenham
@@toothpick1753 pity your elders never taught you correct English with Grammar. SMH
Hackney always had a reputation, before Newham Hackney was the most notorious for East London.
True even in the whole London
This video is BS. No such thing as red side and blue side in Hackney
@@sicnarf1000💯
@@sicnarf1000 so what’s Kemzi been on about then? Loool
@@immanuelappiah5600 South London had that crown 👑 👍🏿.
My Parents and I, moved from Nenagh, Co Tipp in Ireland to Gascoigne Estate in Hackney in the later 80's. Although there was a sense of Gang Culture when I was growing up it was nothing compared to today. We moved away form Hackney in 1997 to Yorkshire where it was obviously more rural. However, I also felt the pace was too slow so I went back to live in Hackney in my early 20's - I live on Crosston Street, just off Broadway Market. There was a real push for gentrification and housing prices and general cost of living skyrocketed. I loved living there, I worked on Dalston Lane and was well aware of the increased gang culture, I often wondered what my life would have been like if we didn't leave Gascoigne Estate, I feel it was for the best. Thankfully today, I get to visit London alot and never feel like a tourist. GREAT VIDEO AND LOVE REMINSING ABOUT SEEING ALL THOSE OLD ESTATES I USED TO PLAY FOOTBALL ON!!!
Bit older than you but was born and bought up in Hackney by old school Jamaican parents close to Stoke Newington.
Lived down the road from Gascoyne years later with an ex girlfriend.
Also my older brother was really good friends with a guy i got to know called Michael or Mike, big friendly guy from Tralee. My brother went over there and stayed with Mike and his family for a week and loved it. Kept telling me how Guiness is so much better in Ireland!
I was brought up in the late 60s and early 70s in Hackney and went to school there in my Borough and its very good times back then 😊😊😊
Ayyyy much love United States South Carolina my guy been with you for years keeping going no matter what bubba 💯 you been working hard for years respect broski 💯🚫🧢
It's crazy man I live round here and most people only ever see glimpses of this world. Sad that these guys who have everything in common kill each other over nothing
Losers
they kill each other over their "blocks" that the government owns lol
It's actually mad. I went to Shoreditch just once, and coming out of the station I was already offered to buy weed. Then I walked around for about an hour, and saw an uber delivery driver have his bike stolen in front of at least 100 people by just one man. I still have the video.
Then on my way back to the station, I saw a car full of gang members. At least, they were all wearing ballies and playing loud drill music.
I was there from 3pm until 6pm, and already saw so much lmao.
It's a beautiful area with a lot of life, but it's not safe and you can feel how little the police presence is.
@@dexgen4809 I'm a properly lower middle class guy with no gang ties at all, and I've been threatened with knives and stuff. It's crazy it all does just depend on how well you can stick to gentrified areas
@@dexgen4809 Scary stuff man, stay safe out there.
I have lived in East London and now North East London and Hackney has always been rough, I have never heard anyone refer to it any other way to until now? I don't know about the 60's/70's but in my life it has always had the rep it has! And I was expecting a documentary, not the bare essentials.
14:42 it was during history class at Petchey Academy (the school on the left) that my friend was looking out the window, saw the crash, shouted and called the whole class over to then see a group of boys getting chased by the cops. It was the last lesson of the day and once the higher-ups were notified about what happened, nobody was allowed to go through Shacklewall Lane to go home as it was to dangerous. I had never seen nothing like it before and for years completely forgot this ever happened, almost everyone had to walk through Stoke Newington Road to get home. I was in year 7 when it happened, im now in my first year of college 😂 Thanks for reminding me about this. RIP to the kid.
You're a great writer btw.
A really good writer for real 😅
Best wishes in college
@@jesusisapisces i try 😅
@@NM-yg7kj Thanks, good luck to you too
'Never seen nothing like it' and using to instead of too is not good writing.
We need more consistency Kidnerd
Facts
Shut this man up do you kidnerd
By the looks of he’s a solo researcher so he needs alot of time to bring us the gang war documentary’s.
I agree
Cope. 🤡
Very good- thanks! I’m ancient enough to have been in Clapton back in the early 90s…. Bringin back some intense memories!
The worst thing is the amount of civilians that have died or been seriously injured in this probs couldn’t even make it in one video
Glad I moved out of Hackney to Yorkshire. There is so much violence all over London
I take it you don't know that West Yorkshire has a higher crime rate than London then?
@@zigzung5569 I didn't know that, I live in North Yorkshire
@@zigzung5569we really don’t, you’re deluded
@@StevoPvP Err yes you really do, proportionally West Yorkshire, Humberside and Teeside all have a higher recorded rate of violent crime per head of population than London.
@@zigzung5569lol absolute bull sh..
I live near Hackney in Stepney. This just sounds so stupid to me. I know if I was caught up in this it would be my life. So I’m grateful to be on the outside observing the craziness unfold. Rather than being the statistic or part of the problem.
My grandparents lived in Bridge House in hackney from 1964 to 2007 (Homerton hight st. / Fenn St.) I think the location is actually briefly in this video at10:45 with bridge house now demolished and replaced. I spent a lot of time on the estate from 1980 - 2007 and it has always been a rough area, but only because of poverty. The sense of community was as strong as I have known anywhere in the UK, although the gentrification of the borough has probably atomised that.
"Best quality of living in London". I had to laugh at that one
why? we have some of the best food here, bread, bagels restaurants, Bars, coffee shops, clubs, venues, cinemas, boutiques, we have Galleries, markets, and parks I could go on, I've lived here for 25 years and seen it grow, those youth who fought in 2003 are grown men now, parents with jobs and responsibility, the gang wars are a pathetic joke based on a lack of identity and see racial stereotypes as role models
What's sad is all these areas used to par together I came from Clapton parred with stokey and square had bredrins in holly st and fields too. I could walk to all these areas and check my peoples. I'm 50 now and am saddened that areas my friends came from are now outta bounds how is this a thing? The ends is too small for all this !! Let's keep it real our parents all went Ridley market or mare street to shop how you gonna have opps on your doorstep? We need to do better 💯🙏
Especially fields and holly it’s literally the same postcode
@@dmmaz3903 its the length of shrubland Road half of Middleton Road and both areas are E8 you right!!
What? Say that in English.
Bredrin is that sone sort of bakers loaf?
Peoples? Kind of talk is that your grandparents came here to better their families they must be proud.
@@StuartAnderson-xl4bo lol the fact that you deduce a level of intellect and success to how one writes is funny to me, but we are all entitled to an option and this is yours. For the record I'm sure my grandparents are fine with how I've bettered my family.
@@StuartAnderson-xl4bowe don’t speak inbred sorry
Great video mate, I grew up in Homerton around Millfields road and Chatsworth road until the early 2000s, me and my mates were only little year 6s by the time I moved out so I only knew maybe 3 or 4 people who had experiences with street violence, but it was around all of us regardless, gun shots at night round clapton pond, kids bringing knives into primary school, seems it's got a lot worse now.
I went Rushmore primary school left in 1995 to go to Hackney Free secondary school. Mum still off Chatsworth Road now. It’s changed so much there and tbh this sortve crime is all over the place not just Hackney
@@sizzler1474 It's very gentrified there now, I don't recognise much when going back there. But you're right, it's not just in Hackney, and I enjoyed growing up there.
As an American I love ur videos man keep ‘em up💯💯
These young men don’t even know why they’re beefing anymore, first postcode murder occurred before some of these yg’s were born. Organizational Culture and the 5 Monkeys Experiment comes to mind, so sad to see young kids losing their life over absolutely nothing.
All of it is sad. Especially Joshua White and the other guy who were just totally innocent.
He was involved he had a tag he went by Packsta
@@TallestTrapstar he weren't involved lol he jumped off road in 016 if not earlier his attackers didn't even know him
If they knew the plan they might stop killing each other. Guys need to love themselves and start owning their postcode. Yep buy properties. See the value shoot up 15 years down the line. Buying property means working and earning. It’s all doable. Have better plans in life. Doctors, architects, bankers, etc were born in Hackney… you can make out if you want to… that aside…hmm i would mention parenting… but well these guys are young adults…they have a choie. We all do. …. Let’s make the right choice and make plans for a prosperous future. One ❤️
Im born and bred London but mostly south so Brixton, Southwark down to crystal palace Croydon but due yo family stuff became homeless around the age of 16 and squatted all over dalston, Clapton hackney during this time and it was as bad as everyone says I've got some stories people think are unbelievable but obvs are true lol
Growing up in Homerton in the 90s during this time was interesting to say the least.
Good content man
❤from the US
I’ve lived in Hackney all my life and was born in Hackney hospital, I went to a senior school in Dalston, I have seen a very big difference in my 50 years and to be honest I would find it hard to move out but I am worried when I walk about, I’m now disabled so feel threatened. I have moved to many places in Hackney and always lived in the E9 area.
I lived in Ackney in the 80s...... Lower Clapton rd was named the murder mile.
I was born on that road! lol.. (Mothers Hospital). I specifically know some of those characters that got that stretch named, "murder mile", only most of them actually lived in Upper Clapton.
Murder mile ran from Lower Clapton to Upper Clapton
14:30 its so crazy to me that i saw this chase from the basement of the school on the left, petchey academy. Its insane seeing it from the police angel and knowing that the men i saw running from police when i was in year 10 were murders.
I always look forward to your high quality productions and pleasant narrating voice Kid Nerd! I hope you at least double your subscriber amount this year.
And as a last note I would encourage you to take as much time as you want when producing your videos, I much prefer quality over rushed productions to meet a certain quota.
Cheers!
You said it. Kid Nerd takes his time and ALWAYS delivers a banger. One of the most consistently good creators
Pleasant!?
@tommywozza4626 sounds like someone with a slight brain injury or a 5 year old reading a book but in a teenagers voice.
My dad lived in Hoxton where he was young and he (currently) works in the flat in Stamford Hill as he works for Hackney Homes, My uncle Darren lived in Shoreditch when he was young and he went to school there, My mum lived in Stamford Hill and over in Stoke Newington with her own house in the 80s and 90s and I was born in the hospital in Homerton in the late 90s before my family moved from Hackney to Walthamstow. Things change back in the day. Anyway great content mate. 👍
Hackney Homes is a former company that managed housing services on behalf of Hackney Council and ceased to operate about 8 years ago when housing services returned in-house to Hackney Council
This video doesn't even cover 1% of the beef in Hackney.
Word 💯
Doesn't has to atleast we got an idea now
I remember being in school 90 and early 00's in Hackney and those school fight were very mild but obviously they seemed like a big deal to us back then. I actually had no idea this modern day street war started from that. I think some of it kicked off because of boys robbing other boys in different schools.
Certain schools in Hackney didn’t get along with each other fights etc created animosity
Kingsland ❤
@@Mr-DowNBeateverything went up a notch in mid 2000s. Hackney were beefing schools in fucking Islington too, it was tragic
Yeah holly street and fields beef started way back with the 4 original tower block's..in the 80's
They actually used to call it Hackney Crackney because of so many drugs in the area. They should film the crackheads of Hackney they are full of them everywhere it's awful-another reason to get out.
RIP Jadie Brissett ❤ Much love from NY for the fam
14:42 I actually saw the crash in class through the window never knew it was related to this
Once walked through the east end at night, after a West Ham game. It’s was one the scariest place I’ve ever been. Gangs of youths,young men hooded up most of them 6ft 3 plus ..The thoughts of what’s been shown in this in video was in my mind back then very unnerving and intimidating.Never would I do that again. No way .. come to think of probably not in the daytime either. Just not worth it.
I see you described them but ignored race… says it all
There is racism our young people are killing each other , they have notbeen killed by police , teachers, or other races . We have serious issues in our community which must be addressed, Thank you for the video .
If you grew up in Hackney, and was about, then you 100% bought your clothes from STYLES in the narrow way!
Blue bolt jeans and gravity in the 80s and red stripe “straights” in the 90s.
Wired for sound for records 💪
Grew up in London fields, still here in my 40s! Loved it back then and still love living in Hackney!
So many smart kids got lost to the streets, one way or another. 😢
You need to make a seperate on Hackney vs Tottenham beef. Its too detailed to squeeze into this one video
4:17 they were in Trelawney Estate not Fields.
just made a comment about this, I was at the cage a minute away when this happened. To think that could've been me.. to survive all this during its peak was truly a miracle
@@minge9 the rumour at the time was fields yutes were chasing him
That's defo Trewlaney estate next to the big Tesco's on Morning Lane. Used to live there back in the day and that area is all Homerton man.
Extremely honoured to be blessed with the surname 😌🤝
i used to live in hackney, moved to guildford because my mum got robbed there.
As a local resident I have to say going home from school was not a joke back in the day 01-07 I thought it was normal till I discussed how other peoples rides home from school
were 😂
It wasn’t spoken about at the time but the anxiety we suffered wasn’t normal. It is crazy to think what we internalised at the time.
I moved out from hackney to west london maida vale while neva revealing im from hackney....
funny guy🤣
Big up Kidnerd, always putting out bangers!
Big up KidNerd for sounding like he just injected a teenth of brown before starting to speak
@@douBBle0306 why you hating on my guy's voice? He speaks well, bro.
hackney’s been about in the drill since 016/17 with OMH, 16stokey, homerton 11:35
Good journalism a few inaccuracies but definitely more accurate than any major media outlet.
searching for a better life end up in Hackney. life is harsh
I grew up in hackney in the slums always been a hard area murder mile etc nothing changes ❤
We need that Manor Park vs Ilford one
Despite making up only 13% of London's total population, black Londoners account for 45% of London's knife murder victims, 61% of knife murder perpetrators and 53% of knife crime perpetrators
It's in there blood blm don't matter anymore ig
It’s white peoples fault
I was planning to visit Hackney, London, England this summer. I left England in 1987. But now I don’t know if I want to risk it. It was once my home. Is it safe to walk through during the day?
Just like anywhere in London it is safe just for normal people. Only unsafe if you are gang affiliated.
@@kidnerd Thank you.
the british swamp stories 💀
Grew up in Manor House, on the Hackney/ Haringey border❤
I’m white Welsh. I lived in Tottenham in the mid 80’s. It was totally cool bro.
The Welsh are white. You wouldn’t say black Nigerian
What about Hoxton and Fellows court
Are any of these mentioned areas in Dalston? I'm from SW London and have definitely known of Hackneys reputation since the mid 90s.
Watch bullet boy filmed in Hackney 2003 cars blown up all over the place joy riding place is just run down them years seemed a lot more dangerous running into massive gangs who are on robbing you
Kid Nerd with another banger 💯
these gangs are tough, i know a lot of them, real tough ppl, one gang member he fought another man for some chicken wings. Dont mess with them real deal.
Sounds like the same thing that happen in Africa
Top content as always
15:10 bro really rapping outside a GP lol😂
GOATED CONTENT RIGHT HERE 🔥
I LOVE HACKNEY ❤
It's a dump.
Gangs in the area need to squash the beef and make money
Great video. Love the channel.
Question: How many of these boys that commit these crimes do you think have a father in the house growing up?
That's no diss. I really want to know what people think.
You’d be surprised, sometimes having a father of the wrong influence is worse than not having one at all
@@LDMX98 very true
kids don't have fathers all over the world, doesn't just make a knife crime epidemic
I grew up without a father figure but knew this life wasn't for me. Street lights come on I'm going home. The issue is a number of things mostly pointing to a severe lack of positivity in their lives. But ultimately it's choice. Many choose to be gang members, many choose to kill or maim. This is nothing new, it's centuries old and will be going on long after we're all gone. Sad thing is most of these people are intelligent. It's gotta take brains to run operations, unfortunately they steer this energy into the wrong direction.
@marlongrant27 I agree with you. However, we have to acknowledge the fact that a correlation exists between single parent baby mama homes and youth crime . That's a statistical fact. Research also exists that proves the importance of fathers in the home for academic success. For some reason, in Western countries, the role of fathers is always minimized. The result are Council estate gangs full of fatherless boys running around not giving a toss about other people because they felt no one gave a toss about them. Whether they know it or not, most at some point were looking for a father figure they never had. No fathers, no community, no safety for anyone. That's how it works fathers protect what's theirs and those who voluntarily come under his covering and by extension ensure safer communities for all. That's how the nonsense gets checked. It's interesting how most people (Not you) tend to belittle or rubbish the importance of fathers. Maybe they just don't know because they never had one at home.
What do people think?
If u ever lived in Hackney you know all the places , schools , blocks mentioned
Grown men still beefing like kids, these man had a way out with music… violence can be prevented by making out and staying out the way, nowadays everyone wants to be the man. Numerous people have killed and holding a L plate, many families affected for life. All of this could’ve been prevented by these people moving out of the area and staying out the way.
My mum lived in hackney, now shes a successful businesswomen.
Good side to Hackney! Comedy gold
4:55 was Shaquille Smith who got stabbed to death. My mum taught him in school. One of the killers went to the same school. He was completely innocent and had nothing to do with gangs.
They were all Fields yutes bro
Was.born there, but will always think its a shithole! And glad I got out
4:53 rip Fes ❤️🙏🏽
Never forgotten love you forever g
Do a video on what well known gang members over the age of 30 are doing now, that would be interesting to see
That would be a whos who’s Who of who’s dead.
The ones who lived? Mostly graduated to university of Crime ( Prison )
the intro dis guy smokin food lol😂 we still in london g
Hackney for life
ALL THESE GUYS ARE LOSERS KILLING EACH OTHER FOR OVER NOTHING AND SO YOUNG SMH 🤦♂️ GOT NO LIVES AND PARENTS CAN’T CONTROL THEM
Having no direction in life and a good health long term goal, you’ll just end up forfeiting to your surroundings, it’s sad.
Why can’t we all love one another
Don’t work like that bro
0:11 seconds in, black man and a White skin head. Both chilling, just being peaceful peace keepers. On the doors hi vis on. Thats the real world. They both chillin, no dissin💙
That's the reality we don't regularly see. No bad vibes, no trash talking. Just 2 people doing their best on the job👌🙏
I remember me sully and dushane had the block popping back in the early 2000s. Everyone was eating proper you get me. They’ll never be able to do what we done.
This must be a recap of past generations.
Because, I'm always around Hackney, at different times, including 2-5am in the morning.
And I can tell you, there is no presence of this "gang lifestyle" culture.
The area has become a very civilised area. With many environmentally conscious communities residing in the area. Including communities from the hipster community, vegans, young adults from middle class to lower upper class English backgrounds.
Dalston is a completely different place to 2010 times.
Dalston is a completely different place to 2010 times.
I’m from fields and even though I grew up with most of them I always stayed out the gang ting and stayed neutral to keep friendships from Pembury, Holly street and Homerton. Life’s too short to die over postcodes fam. Get your money and gone.
Anyway shout out to Robin where ever you are ❤
If ya talking about Robin from holly he was cool with Fields mandem like JD
@@OP-er9tm yh man robin is a real one from day.
@@ezekielx7536i always heard about Gweton and Robin but i use to think them strories were gassed mad
@@noisey3596 nah bro Robin is a real guy and humble. He even published a book. No1 can say bad words about that guy.
Damm do you remember when JD died?
Back in the 60’s and 70’s if you had a disagreement with someone ( you had a proper fight no knifes )
It rarely ended without a hand shake.
Back in the 60s and 70s London was majority white
@Zoomer_Analysis And a hundred times better for it.
subbed. banging video
14:40 i remember this I was in school when this happend RIGHT OUTSIDE MY SCHOOL AND I WAS WATCHING IT FROM LESSON from top floor in class and snapping it 😂😭😭😭😭
Top content as always, needs to be more consistency with the time between videos released though
Top shelf Nerd! 👍🏽
Hackneys been gentrified massively by the middle class hipster types, kinda miss how it was before but its definitely safer than it was 10-15 years ago.
Bro misses a craphole
This is a myth. I live in Hackney and it hasn't been massively gentrified as you say. And the crime stats show that it's not safer.
I'm in Hackney all the time. It hasn't been massively gentrified. Much of it still looks like it did in 90's. Places like Clapton, Stamford Hill etc. look exactly the same. Take a trip up the road to Stratford to see real gentrification.
Didn't lads just used to have a punch up back in the day. Baffles me why people do this stabbing lark
Great vid, as someone who grew up in hackney from 88 until 2008 this brought back a lot of memories
Joshua white in particular was a naughty kid but fixed up later , his face never changed from when i left the ends
Was sad to see him go.
I was suprised you didnt mention about the 9 to 5 affiliation that was created to i think defend against the fields/holly st/ hoxotn threat although i could be wrong..if anyone here remembers let me know
I believe 9 to 5 was kingshold/ballance/pembury and meade if im correct
But man..some throwback there
This bredda ain't from Hackney, he's just reading articles
Don’t forget hfc and yh joshua was a little shit but he changed his way and was a muslim rip
@@OP-er9tm HFC that brings back some memories also..was a crazy time back then.
Yeah i bumped into josh a couple times during the years, he seemed cool
Do you remember the ginger guy who was killed also, was that who kid nerd was referring to when he said a guy out with his child and partner?
@@OP-er9tm chucky..if i remember right
What ever happened to Haggerston? Did they just split into Winston and fellows court or just joined other gangs in hackney
This Guy has to upload more
I think the problem is the upbringing of the children, why is it that the majority of these gang members are off black ethnicity ?