Worst No Fall Situation but still solved the flooding.
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Nice work! 👍
Thank you Chuck! It's such an honor having you compliment my work! - Shawn
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Hey Chuck!
I like this channel cause of 1 thing. He actually take time and go back to look at his work in the rain. 👏👏👏👏
Right!!!
It's a huge pain to go back but I like making sure things are working how I expected. 👍
You see all these similar channel. It’s like a cliff hanger at the end. Gate city actually shows how the System is flowing in the rain. That’s customer service, that’s just good content. /// sometime when I watch these, I usually go straight to the end for the result. 👏👏
He needs to make a video of just before and after compilations.
@@garvinchick He mostly does, Shows the footage "when provided" by customer, and the ending trailer shows the after effects, Though obviously not a side by side comparison. ( my previous entry of this comment returned an error when replying to it )
If you have trouble with your coredrill, like in this vid, run it on a sandstone brick. Concrete clogs up the space between the diamondcollar. When you use it then, it will slide on the sludge it has created and cut poorly. When you run it for a couple of seconds/ minute on a sandstone brick, it opens up / cleans the diamondcollar.
I will give that a try! Thank you!
Hey, what do I search to get one of those bits? Core drill? I see some but they are like $150-$200
I would swear the video shows the Conc core bit spinning in reverse. I’ve done that several times. Maybe just the way the video played.
@@pepaw "Wet Core Drill Bit for Concrete"
I have become addicted to your videos. So much information in each situation you encounter.
Thank you! Some of the older videos are not as nice.
The only concern is about removing the build up of dirt. The pipe to the curb could have been going uphill and the system would still work. So long as the exit point is below the entry, i.e, the attachment to the gutter is above the curb exit.
The pipe work around the corner looked fantastic and professional. I will use it as reference.
Ronald is a professional!
Another reason I like this channel, a fellow lefty.👍
Lefty’s unite!
I was waiting for someone to notice that! 👍
If you keep getting the same delivery driver, you must be a good tipper. Well done!!
I feel like I need to give him a shirt!
Don’t forget to trim the Crepe Myrtle well below below gutter height. Nice project for a friend.
Take into consideration the amount of water coming off the roof. That one side one the right (next to tree) looks like it drains 2 maybe 3 roofs, so the higher volume will help keep the pipe clean. With two downspouts being caught, that will really help keep pipe clean, especially on heavy rains.
That's the idea! Preserving the flow keeps the pipes cleaner.
I never seen a company eat more pizza than yours. 4 videos and pizza in all, double cheese, deep pan, NO pepperoni for me please. Great videos.
Haha thanks Lloyd! thanks for watching
We use the downspout adapters because on homes where we have not in the past there was rodent problems. All the homes we build are in wooded lots with the pipe open it became a mouse highway, the pest control guy said the mice where using it to move safely in the day from the woods to the home.
Good point!
Nice work Shawn! I’ve noticed over the last several videos you continue to invest in tools and skills. Stay hungry and humble.
Thank you!
Your fall is based solely on the height of the pipe that collects the water into the "sealed" pipe. If you collect the roof water at 1 foot above the ground verses 4 feet or 10 feet above the ground, then the obstacles you can overcome depends solely on the height of your vertical collection pipe...for a single collection pipe. For multi collection pipes then it is governed by the lowest collection pipe height out of the bunch. It is simple and straight forward...if you have a two story house then you can go over an ten foot obstable...easy!
Always getting the best solution even in tricky circumstances, nice job Shawn.
Thank you Dylan!
The problem is with Town Planning .They don't tie in the height of House slabs with road drainage heights
That would make too much sense!
@@GCFD Interesting... If thats a common thing i would bring that up in a town hall meeting of some sort, although it also might cut down on overall business.. Then again If i knew this was a factor of buying in "said" town, area etc i would not buy to begin with, As well as finding out afterwords being ticked off in the process... A Tough one for sure.
Another great upload, Shawn
Thank you
Thank you as always Xavier!
Several questions: Why not use perorated pipe through the lawn area to create a "horizontal drywell" with the curb cut to allow for discharge during large rain events? Is the pipe you are using schedule 40 or triple wall? Your coring drill, is it a worm or direct drive? Does the municipality allow direct discharge into the road in your area? Ours does not. Last question, what do you charge per linear ft of installed pipe with seed & straw? We get $25 - $30 in CT.
Great questions! Our soil is much too impermeable for any kind of dry well to work so I prefer to take the water to a discharge point. We use schedule 40 foam core. The core drill is a hilti dd-130 and I'm not sure the drive type. They let us discharge onto the street since they all flow into the creeks here. I don't have a set price that I charge because not all feet are equal. The price of PVC went up by 25% in the last two weeks so any type of pricing would be outdated instantly.
My wife planted two of those no good for nothing crape myrtle tree's next to our mobile home. I haven't decided what's worse kudzu or those two nasty old trees.
Yep. They do all right along roads or driveways but don't plant them near anything. Their tiny flowers clog up everything too.
Good job Shawn, a least he is better off than he was before. Have a great weekend.
Thank you Brent!
Great job in spite of difficult drainage conditions.
👍 Thank you Pete!
Looks great
👍 Thank you!
At 16:34 look at all that slope under that tree going straight into the garage/driveway areas. Almost looks like a small retainer wall should be built along that drive/lawn edge enough to bring grade up to move water away from the garage.
Nobody in Chicago/Northwest Indiana area does this kind of work I need some regrading and a French drain put in on my lot
👍 I'm not sure why more people don't specialize in drainage work.
Hey Guys, on cutting the pipe at the curb. I cut one with an angle grinder and sanded it flush with a sanding disc on the grinder. It will match the rest of the excellent work you guys do.
Thank you!
Good Friday evening everyone from wellington Somerset in the UK
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I wish you guys were in my state. I need serious french drain/down spout piped out. Our neighbor had his gutters pipe to the sidewalk with corrugated pipe and I wouldn't tie in on my side because of that.
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Enjoyed the video!
Thank you!
Believe you should purchase one set of portable picnic table and chairs so that all of you guys can really sit down and have a good lunch every time you guys are out on a job ... just a thought
Great thought! I have to pull them away from the work to eat most of the time.
great vid, thank you sir
Thank you Reid!
If you want to cut the pipe with the same profile as the curb - slide pipe thru hole in curb, then mark curb profile on pipe with a permanent marker, pull pipe out and cut using your marker lines...then re-INSERT CUT PIPE back thru hole. PERFECT PROFILE! For a better look- mark edge of pipe with marker so white edge of pipe blends into color of concrete curb.
Great tip!
Hey Shawn great job as usual, the trick to getting the pipe cut to the curve is using an angle grinder with a continuous edge blade.
Thank you Anthony!
And I saw the rest of the video and now I know why I don’t use adapters I mean I know for a fact you will figure out some thing like make the PVC pipe go higher into the downspouts we still have that clean look
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Hungry Howies? I call it Horrible Howies! 😂😂
It's one of my favorites
Hi Shawn, Great video you guys install good system, but if you don't clean out your gutters it will fail. People you have to CLEAN OUT your GUTTERS.
Great advice!
I thought the extra information was Awesome!
If he's willing to pay the power bill, why not drop both gutters into a sump pit where the myrtle tree used to be and run the pump discharge lint out to the curb...
Then the lack of Fall becomes irrelevant...
Yes that would have been a good solution as well. We talked about it but had just enough fall to the curb to achieve flow during a rain. Great comment!
Yay more videos!
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So great when people don't do what you suggest for best results in the first place. Good you could still solve them.
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Slowly moving through a flat pipe is better than dumping all over the foundation. You do what you can, and get it in writing from the homeowner that what you're doing is the best option but not ideal.
Yes I always get it in writing!
Use an angle grinder with a flap disk to make the pipe flush with the curb. Awesome work.
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the best way to cut the pipe at the curb would be to pull it out an inch beyond the curb and draw the shape of the curb with a sharpie, then sawzall along the line. Not that it really matters lol.
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Slab home.if landscaping stuff on brick above slab it leaks into home...yup...Houston they use a lot of mulch..above slab yes I had water penetration...at my office.. lowered and channeled mulch... they also blocked rear swale... landscapers just dont get it.. I had a rear yard flood..but looked great..pl as noted bushes in swale too..duh.. I had to move them all..
No one ever seems to think about drainage issues until it's too late.
If you use solid pipe that is glued and cleaned from the gutters to the street it will work fine. The head pressure will push the water through during the rain even though you don’t have adequate fall. Some maintenance may be required like you said. Normally hydro jetting the drain if some debris built up over time, but honestly it works fine. In Australia we could call this a wet line system. Also don’t stress about surface mounting a pipe to the wall it is hidden behind bushes. If they want the water gone surface mount the pipe.
Nice work and your pipe will work fine
Thank you Gavin! So far the HO has been very very happy!
Good to hear.. you do a good a job. In Australia we would call a French drain an agi drain and most would use corrugated pipe (I prefer a slotted hard pipe similar to yourself) I don’t do a lot of dig up these days (prefer jetting drains and small plumbing jobs due to a bad back) but I have said to customers of mine to you tube yourself and research a French drain as that’s your solution to help dry the area of your yard..
Keep up the work!!!
Like I said before you make the most of every little bit of fall that you have! Have a great Derby 🐎 weekend! Corrugated pipe would be a total failure, PVC for the win!
Thank you Steve! Thanks for your support! - Shawn
Everyone, the fall can come from the slope of the ground "or" from the height of the gutter that you attach a "sealed pipe" to...just like every city water tower does. Sooner or later Sean will get it. Blue Skys...like us skydivers say!
That pipe against the wall receiving roof water I would have set it at a 45 degree angle at the base because the momentum of water coming down at that angle would be enough to flush out water that is in the level pipe. Whereas at right angles you would have lost that momentum due to hitting the corner then that water would be at the mercy of the weak slope.
We used a long sweep 90 that helps preserve the flow. 👍
1:09 You can notice the downspout it looks like the downspout is getting ready to get out of the PVC pipe I left comments in the past saying putting like a downspout adapters or something so the downspout is at least 4 to 5 inches inside the pipe in case the ground saddles
It's still flowing so we are good...for now!
Seems to me that the run pipe could be dead level or even uphill as long as the top of all risers were above the level of the outlet. The head pressure created would make the water flow. Water may sit in the horizontal pipe but would still flow when the riser fills.
Also do you use a laser level to find and set grade? I’d think that would be easier and more accurate than bubble levels where you are working with minute slopes.
Love the videos! I feel like part of your crew. Keep em coming.
I just realized last night with the help of a viewer that the laser I already own will do slopes! I am looking forward to trying it out on a job next week. I think the laser will help.
You need to offer an automated text reminder service to you customer saying “ you need to clean your system”
I have thought about trying to sell a service agreement where we come out a certain number of times per year and clean the gutters.
@@GCFD I’d pay for that.
looks good should work i think you solved the problem
Thank you! I think so too!
Catching gutters and finding good fall! Gate city way baby!
Full Bubble!
@@GCFD Catching Gutters and Full Bubbles! Sounds like you need a merch store!
Surprised people there aren't using gutter guards to keep debris out. Could keep the tree if they did that.
The only way to give it a custom angle on a curb like that is an angle grinder, and very precise movements with it.
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Do you ask the homeowners to have their gutters cleaned before your installations? We enjoy your videos very much. Thank you.
I make sure they understand that our pipes will only work if the gutters are working and flowing.
Park the truck or a piece of equipment next to the curb and use a bottle jack or a scissor jack on the core drill like a drill press.
That sounds like a great plan!
Try using an oscillating multi tool to cut the pipe at the curve. It leaves a cleaner finish.
Great idea Grady!
Cool to see you try cutting the pipe with the sawzall at the curb even though it didn't work out. :)
Hahah it was a disaster! I like leaving it as a straight cut. 👍
@@GCFD Looks 1000% better with the straight cut!
I watched I believe it was Petra's aqueduct piping and they found four degrees was all that was needed to have an air space in a pipe, so it could flow efficiently and that pipe ran for I believe a few miles
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Great videos, trying to solve water in a basement room. Hoping to use some of your lessons. I know you're doing the best you can, but going down then up to get back to the road level has to be frustrating. Oh, btw a before shot or video clip at the end to compare would make it better.
Yes I always ask customers if they have video of the problem. Most don't and we fix the issue before it happens again.
if u r using 4 inch pipe your masonry saw will cut it after you put the pipe through the curb
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One thing people may not realize when seeing these videos is why the full bubble of fall is important for more than simple flow rate
soil changes form when its wet or dry and the level of subsidence will change due to it - if there is only a tiny fall and the ground becomes sodden deep in the soil due to severe weather it may wind up with back flow
My comment asked about slope. Wouldn’t the head pressure from the riser cause the water to flow even in a dead level or uphill run as long as the riser was above the outlet?
@@arlingtonguy54 Yes, with a but
In a perfect world, yes there would be a low flow rate due to the initial rise
However sediment deposited into the pipe over time would fill in the pipe, this creates a increasing obstruction over time - The reason why he always makes the point on the full bubble is that with the flow rate that provides most sediment is washed out
@@bengrogan9710 yes that makes sense. I guess there is a lot of sediment in that water.
We will be keeping an eye on this system and jetting it out as needed. There was a tiny bit of back flow at the outfall when we were testing it, but like arlington said, the head makes it flow very well once it fills up.
You need an angle grinder with a masonry (concrete) cutting disk for the curb
👍 Great tip
Use an angle grinder to cut it flush to curb.
19:03 you could also use the angled end of the plug to set the angle you plan to cut on the pvc.
👍 Great tip!
@@GCFD I'm not a contractor, I just stayed at a Holiday
Inn last night.
After watching the whole video first the drain behind the bushes doesn’t looks so bad. Second due to the lack of fall me personally I would have put in a catch basin where the two gutters came together installed a sump pump and pushed that water out to the curb. But that’s just me but great job on getting what fall you could because living in Boone NC I’ve seen worse
A pump would have worked well but we try to let gravity move our water if possible 👍I lived in Boone through grad school.
I’m going to sign it and put it on eBay! 😹
Fan flare.
You should get free advertising discounts from that pizza place lol
Hhah 👍
u can also use a angle grinder to cut flush!
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Tough job, but you did well.
Thank you Jim!
Mmm Hungry Howies flavor crust... I like sesame seeds and the wife likes garlic butter... wonder how it would taste if we combined them?
We usually get garlic butter!
Flushing out the drain pipe to the street is a fair trade to remove the flooding water from around the house & driveway.
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I would have expected ALL the pipes to be buried underground. Don't like those running under the windows.
If we buried that pipe it would be sloping uphill. We always go for results over looks! Great comment Allan.
After much thought it occurred to me that a rain barrel with a bell siphon could give the high flow rate to clear the drain pipe.
Edit spelling correction.
Great idea!
Saw zaw vibrates too much, high quality hack saw for a smooth cut on the curb pipe, but not necessary, how you do it looks great.
Thank you! I think it looks good as long as it's set back in the curb. 👍
Instead of using the sawzall for that angle, use a multitool.
4:22 That gutter right there tells me the Homeowner does not have and really, Really, REALLY should install Smart-Screen on the eaves troughs...It'll keep most/all of that crap out of the gutters...
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They need a core-drill that mounts to the front of one of your machines to eliminate the human-drilling-labor. 10/10
I know! Some viewers have said to use a jack in between the van and the curb to apply pressure on the drill.
But I saw this job very well done
Thank you Zachary!
Congrats on getting $150 for that core!
👍 A fan got the first one!
You should try the sawzall again. With your core there, you have a templated in which you can cut the correct angle at the end of the pipe and make it a flush and finished cut to the curb.
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I was thinking what if you used the back side of the curb, use it as a guide, it’s mostly flat and would be the same angle as the core bit…?
Nice job on a tricky situation.
i think a cordless grinder would help with making the pipe smooth at the curb.
👍 good point!
Why not just build big catch basin to collect waters then discharge using high capacity pump concurent with overflow 4” pipe for emergency water release just in case power get cut out
We could have done that for sure! We didn't in this case because it would have cost at least double what this was. We critically had barely enough fall so the pipe flows! 👍
These guys need to install a filter at the gutter inlets to avoid that kind of insane clog!
The problem with a filter is it gets clogged up and you're back to square one. By letting the debris flow through and out of the system it works better. Although it does require some maint.
@@GCFD I have been using something like Flexgrate downspout filter when I was living in Sweden with lots of trees around and never had a clog with this thing and it rains a lot in Sweden!! But yeah, you mentioned it multiple time in the video, maintenance is key as for any system anyway ;)
nice hat!
Hahah it keeps me cool
I know you hate corrugated pipe, but it works well behind bushes, almost invisible.
I still go for results over looks! 👍
Battery angle grinder would have leaned that pipe up at the curb
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Hey Shawn Could you have gone with your wanted flow and installed a catch basin with a pump near the curb? Just a thought. Challenge, a convenient power source. Thoughts?
Could you put in a basin halfway along the run? The pipe would go in near the bottom of the basin and then you exit towards the top, essentially giving the same rise with half the run.
You'd be creating back pressure on the upstream side to provide the energy to rise the water against gravity. So preserving the energy from the downspouts was the most efficient. Second law of thermodynamics approved.
Thanks for these wonderful videos. Do you glue all fittings above ground in addition to below?
Yes. Above ground we try to keep the glue a little more hidden. For the underground joints we gob the glue on wholesale.
There is a stretch of the Nile river that goes for hundreds of miles and only drops about an inch.
Cool, heading north.
the canal system in england ,built by the victorians,is flat,and travels hundreads of miles,got lock gates ,to go up or down a hill,tunnels through a hill too,but that is a different setup ,canal boats moving stuff ,floating and pulled by horses or engine ,sewage systems got slight fall ,to move it from users to sewage plant ,big town to single point ,love the rain vids,see water moving by gravity ,flowing for free ,keep up the good work
Why are houses not built with drainage systems pre installed underground in the USA
Because 99% of houses here don't need it. You see the worst cases on my channel.
You can't discharge water on to a highway in The UK.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
must rain there enought to go our and get footage of the systems working. Out here in Phoenix, you would be waiting 100+ days before you can get any footage, lol
For sure! I was out in Phoenix in Jan on my want to Sedona.
Hi Shawn. Great work! Have you ever decided, after going back to see the result of a job, that it wasn't functioning as planned/as you expected it too and offered to fix it? Or do you simply hit the target on every job?
I have a few times.
1. was a catch basin from a driveway swale. The dirt between the concrete and the catch basin was gone, so we went back and added concrete between to reinforce.
2. We installed a catch basin along a driveway but were missing most of the water. We went back and pulled that out and added several feet of channel instead along the driveway.
3. We installed a catch basin in asphalt and came back to see some water missing it. I came back and added some asphalt patch in that area to re-direct the water.
4. We were supposed to run into an existing corrugated pipe with our trench according to the homeowner. We never found it to connect into our pipe. Talked to the H.O. and he had the concrete guys who installed it come out and locate it. We went back and connected into our new pipe.
5. I was putting together a video (coming soon) and saw in the footage that we FAILED to connect an existing corrugated pipe into our PVC when we trenched through it. I called the homeowner and we went out and connected it before the next rain.
I'm sure there are more but those were ones I could remember quickly. I don't have a problem going back to fix something that we missed or could improve upon. What I don't like is shortcutting the job and then having to wait for that call.
With such little fall, would a sump pump setup be more ideal?
I 2nd that , what ya think Shawn?
He said that he and the customer spoke about that along with several other options but this was the preferred option
In my opinion and I have no experience in Thai line of work I just enjoy the videos. A sump would just make more pressure and push water harder than the falling rain would. Still with such little fall it’s going to be falling through the same path regardless the sump would just add more pressure to that
If we have even the smallest amount of fall the pipe will flow. Pumps are always a last resort!
You would benefit from a laser transit make your life a whole lot easier than met some of those little tiny level
Yes I have a transit level. The problem is it takes time to set up and I still check everything with my small level. We do set it up occasionally.
Any chance of seeing this in heavy rain, I would like to see its impact. Very nice watch.
I will try and catch it on my next drains in action video!
Hi Shawn,I really Love your channel.
I always wonder why you are not using a transit laser... With a level reference,you would be able to do the math of the average fall between two points.Specially when there is not a lot of fall: let's say you have 40 feet of pipe run and only have 8 inches of fall: so you know that at 10 feet from the beggining,you must not have eaten more than 2in of fall etc.... So the restricted fall is regular all along the run...
Tell me What do you think about that...
Keep on doing your great work and posting some nice entertaining vids...
Jordan Villeneuve from Quebec.
Hey Jordan I just realized last night that the transit laser I already own will do slopes. A very helpful viewer helped me to figure it out. I will be sure to use it on upcoming jobs as I think you're right with it helping out a ton. 👍
@@GCFD nice,i'm happy you replied.
I'll keep on watching and liking all your upcomming vids.
Keep on with the good work.
looks like you installed a brand new flat system, will be holding water after 4-6 months and it will probably need a jett.
It’s been a few months and no problems. Why do you predict the performance will deteriorate over time?
Hope you get many bids. Postage for that will be pretty high.
Thank you! I had a few suggestions of signing it and putting it up. We shall see!
Put it in a “if it fits it ships” box!
Haha it’ll be $10 or 15 max
Wow I had no idea the adapters cause those problems.
Yes, anything that can catch debris can snowball into a clog. That's why I give up some looks to not use adapters.